Let's just say it's margin of error at this point. I haven't seen videos yet but I bet the RTX 4080 Super has a better binned die than the regular one ; an overclock of the core + one the better memory it has might make it slightly better than the regular 4080...
@@Hateroz It's not better binned. I've seen on the reviews 4080 super overclocking worse than my 4080 on the core. They usually have slightly better memory overclock only.
I bet whoever bought an RTX 4090 at launch at MSRP is really happy right now. They're probably already planning on buying the RTX 5090 at launch as well. Good luck to them!
@@club4ghz They burn for those who do not have enough brains to insert the power connector all the way. I have 2 pieces of 4090 bought almost at the start. And not a single one burned. Improbability? No! It's just that my IQ is above 60 and I can insert the connector all the way.
Gotta love that +1FPS "improvement" on the "Super." It's insulting, it is. Maybe Nvidia will introduce "Super" Ray Tracing with the 50 Series! For all the people anxiously awaiting the 50 Series, I suggest tempering expectations. Nvidia ain't going to be giving away amazing GPU's at low prices.
I mean... the card is at a lower price than the regular 4080 what did you expect ? Even for 1 fps improvement it's still better to buy the Super since it's cheaper. But I agreee that this card is completely useless.
@@K3rhos Sure, the lower price is a trade for a lack of a big increase, but I didn't expect Nvidia to make a joke of their own "Super" designation. I suppose that leaves the big gap between 4080S and 4090 to be filled by the 5080...for $1200!
Reminds me of the performance gap between the GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti, only difference now is that the RTX 4090 costs 300-400$ more than the 4080, where the 1080 Ti cost only 100$ more. Let's just say things've changed...
4080s performs as well as most people would need. I don't need my games running at 120fps @ 120hz and I don't play competitive games anymore. I likely wouldn't noticed a huge difference in Single Player games 4080 Vs 4090
You’re thinking as a 4090 buyer…won’t. A 4090 buyer is the kind of guy “I want the best, no matter what”. That kind of guy may have a lot of money or it’s just a guy always using the credit card. At the end, they are not rational, they just want it. I have a cousin with a very standard wage and he bought a BMW M2 that is completely out of his payroll league, but he bought it (credit) because he wanted it.
@@ricarmig I for example got the 4090 so i DON'T have to upgrade for at least 4 years. I don't need the best card every time but you can easily see, that the 4080 probably will not get consistent 60FPS in 4k in the upcoming games in the next 2 years, so if i got that one, i would have to buy twice, a 4080 and then a 5080 or something like that. With my 4090 i can just sit back and relax, it will definetly be able to handle any game in the next 2 years.
Such big gap in performance and price between the 4090 and the 4080 has always made me wonder whether there would be a 4080Ti, although this looks increasingly unlikely as we get closer to the release of the 50 series.
Well at least our grandpa bought the game and actually owned the game to keep with him forever unlike us, renting services and buying just to get removed later in our own account lamo.
I'll sell the 4090 and buy a 4080 Super! I always limit the 4090 to 116 FPS at 120Hz on 4k+DLSS Q anyway and always turn off raytracing!!! With that usage I won't even notive the difference!!!
Would have preferred for frame generation to be turned off for Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk. It'll showcase how both the 4080 & 4090 really handle those games without the extra fake frames.
@VideoGamePlaythrough842 I just finished my new build containing a 4080S. I now learned the 4080 and 4080S are basically the same card. So these test results make sense. The card is indeed a giant upgrade from my little 1080TI
You are right, in the 80's they used raw machine code, now they use game engines that do not optimise code, and with time the inertia and lazy coding will get worse, the consumer will have to buy larger cards just to cope with the bloat.
0:21 Seriously? Testing the top 3 graphics cards on the world without maximum settings?! That's really stupid 1:20 here too Why you using dlss quality?! Keep it on 4k native man 60 stable fps at 4k native on Alan wake 2 is flawless Dlss drop the quality of the game It's for mid range graphics cards Not for 4090 and 4080 man !
@thesilentassassin1167 he mistaken esports games with AAA story single player games In esports games yea you need always the 100+ fps to get an advantage over other players But in story single player games its not 60fps is the perfect always Myself in rdr2 for example Always playing at 4k max settings and I'm using x4 msaa not taa I'm getting 54fps but it's enough The game look so real and amazing I don't want to ruin the visuals just for get much higher fps I can use ultra settings with taa and get 90fps at 4k But why ? It's a single player game and it's look x4 times more beautiful on max settings and the msaa x4 is so expensive for the fps but it's making it gorgeous Taa blurry that's why I'm not using it , However high end graphics cards is for enjoying the beauty of the games at maximum settings always without upscale too only use it if the game really really heavy like cyberpunk with path Tracing at 4k because you already will have 40fps or less on native so dlss quality really needed or if you an ex console player you can lock 30fps and enjoy Myself my eyes can't accept 30fps
@@GameRTmaster Alan Wake 2 drops to 30 fps or less at 4k native with pathtracing on the 4090, that's why he used dlss quality + frame gen. Same story in cyberpunk with pathtracing, it drops to the 20s at 4k native. You have no idea what you are talking about. And the point of this video was for comparison, so as long as the settings are the same on both cards, why does it matter ?
@dhaumya23gango75 that's impossible ! Look at the fps it's 80! Impossible for dlss to boost 50 fps ! The base or the native will get 60 fps or 50 at least on the 4090 I saw many reviews This card is a beast even on path Tracing
I'll sell the 4090 and buy a 4080 Super! I always limit the 4090 to 116 FPS at 120Hz on 4k+DLSS Q anyway and always turn off raytracing!!! With that usage I won't even notive the difference!!!
Super's base price is 999 usd instead of 1299 usd (its same performance, but manufactured cheaper) I assume to compete with the RX 7900 XTX since thats nvidia's competition for the 4080
For almost 2x the price, I half expected the 4090 to be at least 40 - 50% faster than the 4080 super. What's next? The 5090 gonna be 10% faster than the 5080 Ti super max pro and cost $3k more?
damned if you do, damned if you don't. Some of the leaks are accurate and some are 100% BS. There are too many fakes coming out of the woodwork. Some leaks say the 5090 will only be 30% faster and some say 100%. Nvidia is not 100% sure if they're going with a 384-bit or 512-bit GDDR7 bus for the 5090, and the node to node improvements are not nearly as good. However, Nvidia could have gotten more performance out of the N4 node. Personally I looked at buying a 3090ti, but waited for the 4090. I wasn't able to find a card until 6 months after it was released. You could wait, but once the 5090 comes out, you'll have to be aggressive with checking stock. If you want a Strix card, then that will be even tougher to find.
The 5090 is worth waiting for only on the assumption that the 4090 will fall in price to $ 1,500. The 5090 will be much more powerful, but at the same time it will eat more electric power (a more powerful power supply and heat dissipation) and most importantly the 5090 will cost more than $ 2,000. Definitely 5090 for enthusiasts and for work.
The 5090 will be out at the end of this year, if you can wait it's not long. I wouldn't say the same if it were for a 5070, since these will not come out, initially, until the first quarter of 2025.
I see your clock speed is around 2700 . I have a Inno3d watercooled 4080S and have managed to get a stable overclock at 3090mhz Mem is at 25.5GBps . I wonder how much difference that really makes , 5%?
Probably, Linus ran one at 1000W, about 5% improvement? personnally I think modern overclocking is pretty pointless, to lower the MTBF just for a couple of percentage performance increase, at current GPU prices...no, its mad.
@Faresm1233 I would buy the 4090 now if I were you. My pc is my profile picture and I have a 4090. It is more then enough for me but I will also upgrade to the 5090 later.
What cooling system do you have? i have a 7800x3d with aio artikLF2 420mm size, i have "undervolt" with the amd x3d solution for the cpu, but your temperature on game are betten than my... Ah, I have a 4090 too, on a lian li lancool 3 with the 420mm aio moutnted on top. Thanks for your videos!
@@club4ghz That'd be cool. Last time NVIDIA did that was with the GTX 690 which was two GTX 680. But I don't think NVIDIA will go with a multi chiplet module... I think they are gonna stick with a monolithic die.
Can't the Super be OCd for extra gains? I did it to my 4070 ti Super and on the Far Cry 6 benchmark test I had a 28% improvement with that game's crappy RT enabled. I was not expecting that level of uplift.
The super was just a price cut, the 4080 was 1200$ at launch and it never went down from that, by launching the 4080 Super nvidia brought down the price to 999$ , still too expensive but the idea was to make it more competitively priced.
@otakufedido49 ok so a high end pc nice. My pc is in my profile picture I went with my first all white high end pc with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 in the white phanteks nv7 case. I deep clean my pc once a month. I would recommend you look at undervolting videos on the 13900k, replace the thermal paste, buy a contact frame for the cpu to help reduce the temperature, deep clean your pc inside and outside and if you need to take it all apart to deep clean do that, improve the cable management for better airflow, delete apps and games you are not using or don't need to free up space on your ssd, don't use Google Chrome unless if you need to and use opera gx and go to the settings for opera gx to make it more efficient, deep clean the area the pc is in whether it is your room or the living room etc., buy an air purifier to help reduce the amount of lint that gets in the pc. You might have to get a better and or bigger case for more airflow. Look at cleaning and replacing the thermal pads on the 4090. This is everything I could think of off of the top of my head to help improve temps.
@otakufedido49 Greg Salazar and a few other people on youtube clean pc's so you can see how they deep clean. I don't do what they do because that is a lot of extra work but I clean my pc with q tips, a makeup brush and glass cleaner. I will clean my pc this week when I am off of work.
the issue is like the 4090 the price will be to the moon at first... then it drops cause shops cant sell... then it rises again at some point... so u still have to be patient for the price drop u may have to wait 6 month or more after release for good price drops or pay up to 1000€ extra to be a early bird
depends on what you are playing on now, do you want to wait and yes, the 5th generation is just around the corner and it makes sense to wait, but again the question is price
what I learned is that there is always something new around the corner. If you have the financial possibility go for it. Year and a half is a lot of time.
The only good Super Card this Year was the 4070 Super it has actually a Performance Boost and is now like a 4070ti but without 16gb vram a no go for me
@@theobserver9479 Exactly, I bought a 4090 because even though the price to performance is not there compared to the 4080 at $999, 30% faster on average (and 50% in some games) is A LOT. I don't mind paying premium if the performance uplift is big, and in this case, it is
The 4090 is the most expensive card I've ever seen, i dont think even some collectors limited edition was as expensive. The 4080 Super is the most useless release I've ever seen, in raster there is no difference between the 4080's.
I buy 4080s right now for 774$. If 5080 will have only 16gb vram and cost 999$ or more… i think i did well. If 5080 have 24gb for 999$ i think i did wrong…
Glad I got the 4080 Super for MSRP in germany when it launched. The 4090 is just not worth the cost. Its barely 35% faster in best cases but costs basically twice what a 4080 Super costs..
Lo de la 4080 súper es un insulto, si Nvidia la cataloga como tal deberia haber una mejora al menos de un 8%. Por que lo unico super aqui es que vale 200 dolares menos.
Better 1% lows and temps on 4080 S (compared to standard 4080). Due to the lower temps could do with some OC then further boost performance. Not quite what i would expect from a Super model but...better than nothing.
I really regret buying the 4080 super. Its powerful and everything but i honestly wish i stuck with 4070 super and saved close to 500. I had bought the 70 super and loved it but was so worried about the vram i returned it. After that i got the 4070 to super and it was a decent bump in performance but mostly i was happy i had 16gb vram just in case. I then thought i might as well spend 200 more and get the 4080 super it should be in the middle of the 4090. But nope its a 4080 almost exactly and most games its 1 to 3 fps better.
As video thumbnail 4080s not cheaper than 4080😂 4080s and 4080 not have huge performance and power consumption difference, only have price difference. 4090 is beast, but money and power hungry 😢
Games :
Forza Horizon 5 - 0:15 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Alan Wake 2 - 1:18
Starfield - 2:21
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:20
Cyberpunk 2077 - 4:25 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:32 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Horizon Forbidden West - 6:44
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:50 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
GeForce RTX 4080 16Gb - bit.ly/3THhnV5
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
damm just 1 framerate gap with 4080 and 4080s
Let's just say it's margin of error at this point. I haven't seen videos yet but I bet the RTX 4080 Super has a better binned die than the regular one ; an overclock of the core + one the better memory it has might make it slightly better than the regular 4080...
@@Hateroz It's not better binned. I've seen on the reviews 4080 super overclocking worse than my 4080 on the core. They usually have slightly better memory overclock only.
the 4080s is power limited
Still 4080 super is better at RT by reviews and upscaling. Because more rt cores and tensor cores.
yea, a big change
4080 Super to 4080 Standard: It's you!
4080 Standard: I am you!
Is that a reference to an Arnold Schwarzenegger parody of many years ago?
Where is that spiderman meme?
Or nebula
Rush hour 3 meme... he is me and i am you.
I Am D. 🤣😩😎😎🤣🤣
"you dont buy games like your grandpa would" that ad had no business making us feel this old wth
at least Sears is no longer around
@@m8x425 I do miss going into Blockbuster though.
4080 vs 4080 Super = CTRL-C + CTRL-V
yes, but at least they lowered the price
@@FalconPC228 так там и качество компонентной базы ниже
@@FalconPC228"lowered". I work at a pc store I'm Canada and a 4080 super starts at 1100 USD with most around 1200-300.
@JustGamingTV1 the store is called Canadacomputers if you are interested
@ToxiKnatorproof
RTX 4090: 25% more frames for 65% more money. Good job Nvidia
And RTX 5090 will cost the same and make the 4090 look like shit xD
@@coops1992 5090 will be 500$ more, at least
Law of diminishing returns applies everywhere.
in my country the price difference from 4080S to 4090 is 80% 😂
Sometimes it’s 30% performance difference
I bet whoever bought an RTX 4090 at launch at MSRP is really happy right now. They're probably already planning on buying the RTX 5090 at launch as well. Good luck to them!
4090 is scarry because there is 200 of them coming every month to the repair shops with the burned connectors.
@@club4ghz Oh yeah trueee. I forgot about that.
@@club4ghz a good number of these were paired with CableMod connectors.
I bought my first 4090 for $1350 and my second 4090 for $750. Yes, I think that I bought from a very profitable one.
@@club4ghz They burn for those who do not have enough brains to insert the power connector all the way. I have 2 pieces of 4090 bought almost at the start. And not a single one burned. Improbability? No! It's just that my IQ is above 60 and I can insert the connector all the way.
Gotta love that +1FPS "improvement" on the "Super." It's insulting, it is.
Maybe Nvidia will introduce "Super" Ray Tracing with the 50 Series!
For all the people anxiously awaiting the 50 Series, I suggest tempering expectations. Nvidia ain't going to be giving away amazing GPU's at low prices.
esp with AMD's future of no longer competing with higher end nvidia cards
I mean... the card is at a lower price than the regular 4080 what did you expect ? Even for 1 fps improvement it's still better to buy the Super since it's cheaper.
But I agreee that this card is completely useless.
@@K3rhos Sure, the lower price is a trade for a lack of a big increase, but I didn't expect Nvidia to make a joke of their own "Super" designation. I suppose that leaves the big gap between 4080S and 4090 to be filled by the 5080...for $1200!
RYX 5090 will cost $3000 because πvidia'$ monopoly
The 4080 super wasn't meant to outperform the 4080, it was simply meant to be a cheaper and a more reliable option.
I haven't played Starfield yet, but that running segment felt painful, seemed like the character was sprinting and hardly getting anywhere
The performance of the RTX 4090 is sinister... But, within my financial limits, I need an RTX 4080 or RTX 4080 SUPER...
I feel so bad for u
Reminds me of the performance gap between the GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti, only difference now is that the RTX 4090 costs 300-400$ more than the 4080, where the 1080 Ti cost only 100$ more. Let's just say things've changed...
@@Hateroz the 4090 is 1000€ higher in my country at 2200€ (~$2400), the 4080 S being 1150-1400 depending on the model, things definitely changed...
wait 5090 launch and then buy 4090
@@Haterozthat’s cap
the 4080 super is a great option if you dont wanna go for the 4090 at half of the price but still performs similar
4080s performs as well as most people would need. I don't need my games running at 120fps @ 120hz and I don't play competitive games anymore. I likely wouldn't noticed a huge difference in Single Player games 4080 Vs 4090
You can build a high-end PC that can run anything with 1440p Monitor at the price of RTX 4090
You’re thinking as a 4090 buyer…won’t. A 4090 buyer is the kind of guy “I want the best, no matter what”. That kind of guy may have a lot of money or it’s just a guy always using the credit card. At the end, they are not rational, they just want it. I have a cousin with a very standard wage and he bought a BMW M2 that is completely out of his payroll league, but he bought it (credit) because he wanted it.
You can find 4090 at msrp really easily nowadays
A 1.6k$ budget would give one nothing more than a 7800x3d+7900 xt
@@Birdman._. which would run any game at 1440p/4k, so what's ur point lol
poor boys
@@ricarmig I for example got the 4090 so i DON'T have to upgrade for at least 4 years. I don't need the best card every time but you can easily see, that the 4080 probably will not get consistent 60FPS in 4k in the upcoming games in the next 2 years, so if i got that one, i would have to buy twice, a 4080 and then a 5080 or something like that. With my 4090 i can just sit back and relax, it will definetly be able to handle any game in the next 2 years.
Such big gap in performance and price between the 4090 and the 4080 has always made me wonder whether there would be a 4080Ti, although this looks increasingly unlikely as we get closer to the release of the 50 series.
when will the 50 series launch? im about to build my PC
@@biskys6718 early March 2025
fall 2025
the gap is miniscule compared to the performance at least in my country, 2000usd vs 1000usd card.
@@picanha694 30% is most definitely not miniscule.
Well at least our grandpa bought the game and actually owned the game to keep with him forever unlike us, renting services and buying just to get removed later in our own account lamo.
Never had any problems with Steam.
@@shokahishere9476 you will in the future most likely
@@MetalDeathHead I am using steam over a decade now, and my cousin well over two decades, and both zero problems, wtf are you on about?
@@shokahishere9476 im just saying you have ZERO control over digital games, you dont own them
1 FPS = 200$
thanks for the support but can we make this kind of idea real now, it gets more awkward as longer it took, which unpleasant for everyone
-100)
i think you misunderstood. its -1fps for extra 200$. 4080 super is cheaper than the original.
I'll sell the 4090 and buy a 4080 Super! I always limit the 4090 to 116 FPS at 120Hz on 4k+DLSS Q anyway and always turn off raytracing!!! With that usage I won't even notive the difference!!!
@@JingkeHuangC after 3 months no one care
after the release of 4080 super there is no point in buying a regular 4080
Did you watch the video? If the 4080 non-super are even 100 USD cheaper. They are worth it
@@HanmaHeiro depend where you life in germany the 4080 super is cheaper lol
@@theplayerofus319 very true. Whichever is cheaper is the better choice. And if the regular is far cheaper than the super of course
@@HanmaHeiro yes. I think the 4080 non super is just sold out here mostly
Depends on where you live. Not all countries where 4080 Super is cheaper.
Would have preferred for frame generation to be turned off for Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk. It'll showcase how both the 4080 & 4090 really handle those games without the extra fake frames.
Basically take off 15 fps from the video
Extra fake frames ?
bud you sound a bit old 😂
AW 2 is one miserable game, I would not call it exactly fun.
@@xovgamerit's fake frames. i'm not playing with 9485858393847484993milisecond latency.
They should've launched it with more VRAM
and here we go again like the last six years as well
@mecheel7635 actually I think they should've added more vram to 4080 and 4080 s so it would be a good step up from the 4070 ti s
I would expect way higher performance with these current hardware prices
@VideoGamePlaythrough842 I just finished my new build containing a 4080S. I now learned the 4080 and 4080S are basically the same card. So these test results make sense. The card is indeed a giant upgrade from my little 1080TI
@VideoGamePlaythrough842 Better card for my Ryzen 7 7800X3D Lava 🌋
the rtx4090 costs more than twice than the rtx4080 super in my country so its a no brainer to buy the 4080 super.
В моей практически тоже самое.
HP didn't even get 60 FPS AVG on 4090, i think the real issue here is greedy game devs who can't optimize their game not the hardware
You are right, in the 80's they used raw machine code, now they use game engines that do not optimise code, and with time the inertia and lazy coding will get worse, the consumer will have to buy larger cards just to cope with the bloat.
RTX 4080 super... more like RTX 4081
But it's cheaper 😎
theyre good for new ears and you might find it enough for your needs, i dont say theyre bad
0:21
Seriously?
Testing the top 3 graphics cards on the world without maximum settings?!
That's really stupid
1:20 here too
Why you using dlss quality?!
Keep it on 4k native man
60 stable fps at 4k native on Alan wake 2 is flawless
Dlss drop the quality of the game
It's for mid range graphics cards
Not for 4090 and 4080 man !
Yeah I don’t get why he keeps testing super high end GPUs with DLSS resolution I don’t think anyone would play it like that with those GPUs
@thesilentassassin1167 he mistaken esports games with AAA story single player games
In esports games yea you need always the 100+ fps to get an advantage over other players
But in story single player games its not
60fps is the perfect always
Myself in rdr2 for example
Always playing at 4k max settings and I'm using x4 msaa not taa
I'm getting 54fps but it's enough
The game look so real and amazing I don't want to ruin the visuals just for get much higher fps
I can use ultra settings with taa and get 90fps at 4k
But why ?
It's a single player game and it's look x4 times more beautiful on max settings and the msaa x4 is so expensive for the fps but it's making it gorgeous
Taa blurry that's why I'm not using it ,
However high end graphics cards is for enjoying the beauty of the games at maximum settings always without upscale too only use it if the game really really heavy like cyberpunk with path Tracing at 4k because you already will have 40fps or less on native so dlss quality really needed or if you an ex console player you can lock 30fps and enjoy
Myself my eyes can't accept 30fps
Same here, I am ok with AAA single player game running at 50-60FPS stable if graphic are that good
@@GameRTmaster Alan Wake 2 drops to 30 fps or less at 4k native with pathtracing on the 4090, that's why he used dlss quality + frame gen. Same story in cyberpunk with pathtracing, it drops to the 20s at 4k native. You have no idea what you are talking about. And the point of this video was for comparison, so as long as the settings are the same on both cards, why does it matter ?
@dhaumya23gango75 that's impossible !
Look at the fps it's 80! Impossible for dlss to boost 50 fps !
The base or the native will get 60 fps or 50 at least on the 4090
I saw many reviews
This card is a beast even on path Tracing
4080S should be 10 fps above 4080 on average, but Nvidia has different plan 😂
the super in 4080 super is like that flextape guy who had to rebrand something to sell more of the same thing
I'll sell the 4090 and buy a 4080 Super! I always limit the 4090 to 116 FPS at 120Hz on 4k+DLSS Q anyway and always turn off raytracing!!! With that usage I won't even notive the difference!!!
It looks really bad when base 4080 and Super are exactly the same performance, what was the point of Super?
No on3 knows, 5his is a mystery 😅
Super's base price is 999 usd instead of 1299 usd (its same performance, but manufactured cheaper)
I assume to compete with the RX 7900 XTX since thats nvidia's competition for the 4080
to cost less and get the same performance. idk why people are complaining
422 Wattz *-* Crazy
RTX5090 - "hold my beer"
3090 was the same tho
For almost 2x the price, I half expected the 4090 to be at least 40 - 50% faster than the 4080 super. What's next? The 5090 gonna be 10% faster than the 5080 Ti super max pro and cost $3k more?
Should i buy the 4090 now, or wait for the 5090 ??
Wait for 5090
damned if you do, damned if you don't. Some of the leaks are accurate and some are 100% BS. There are too many fakes coming out of the woodwork. Some leaks say the 5090 will only be 30% faster and some say 100%. Nvidia is not 100% sure if they're going with a 384-bit or 512-bit GDDR7 bus for the 5090, and the node to node improvements are not nearly as good. However, Nvidia could have gotten more performance out of the N4 node.
Personally I looked at buying a 3090ti, but waited for the 4090. I wasn't able to find a card until 6 months after it was released. You could wait, but once the 5090 comes out, you'll have to be aggressive with checking stock. If you want a Strix card, then that will be even tougher to find.
5090 will drop this year.
The 5090 is worth waiting for only on the assumption that the 4090 will fall in price to $ 1,500. The 5090 will be much more powerful, but at the same time it will eat more electric power (a more powerful power supply and heat dissipation) and most importantly the 5090 will cost more than $ 2,000. Definitely 5090 for enthusiasts and for work.
The 5090 will be out at the end of this year, if you can wait it's not long. I wouldn't say the same if it were for a 5070, since these will not come out, initially, until the first quarter of 2025.
What monitor your using
I see your clock speed is around 2700 . I have a Inno3d watercooled 4080S and have managed to get a stable overclock at 3090mhz Mem is at 25.5GBps . I wonder how much difference that really makes , 5%?
Probably, Linus ran one at 1000W, about 5% improvement? personnally I think modern overclocking is pretty pointless, to lower the MTBF just for a couple of percentage performance increase, at current GPU prices...no, its mad.
Some will spend thousands making a game look like real life, then spend years in the house away from real life.
well thats the point of life is it? to get away from the sucky real life.
4080 and 4080 S are like your parents new car, that is exactly like the old one but in a different color.
*More ray tracing cores and better upscaling power via DLSS in games. And for less money than the 4080? Yes, please.*
In saudi arabia rtx 4090 asus tuf oc will coast only 1600$ with vat, is it worth to buy now?
Yes I would buy now. Either new or used or open box. Unless if you need the power of the 5080 or the 5090 but the 4090 should be more then enough.
@@MrAnimescrazy It's New and i think 5080 will come less power and vram than 4090
@Faresm1233 I would buy the 4090 now if I were you. My pc is my profile picture and I have a 4090. It is more then enough for me but I will also upgrade to the 5090 later.
What cooling system do you have? i have a 7800x3d with aio artikLF2 420mm size, i have "undervolt" with the amd x3d solution for the cpu, but your temperature on game are betten than my... Ah, I have a 4090 too, on a lian li lancool 3 with the 420mm aio moutnted on top. Thanks for your videos!
You know when you dream you're running and it's like running in syrup? That's how he runs in Starfield.
idk i got 0 income and its downright not right
supposedly huge corporation like youtube and intel know best abt this regard? arent their workers not get paid or smth
Can you do 7800 xt with a ryzen 5700x3d?
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It would've been nice if RTX 4080 was just 10-15% with the 4090, just like the 3080
I think the difference between the RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 will be even bigger.
@@nossy232323 Heard that 5090 will be two 5080's in chiplets. That's why it has 512 Bit bus. 2x 256 Bit.
@@club4ghz That'd be cool. Last time NVIDIA did that was with the GTX 690 which was two GTX 680.
But I don't think NVIDIA will go with a multi chiplet module... I think they are gonna stick with a monolithic die.
Can't the Super be OCd for extra gains? I did it to my 4070 ti Super and on the Far Cry 6 benchmark test I had a 28% improvement with that game's crappy RT enabled. I was not expecting that level of uplift.
The super was just a price cut, the 4080 was 1200$ at launch and it never went down from that, by launching the 4080 Super nvidia brought down the price to 999$ , still too expensive but the idea was to make it more competitively priced.
4080 s - 1500$
4090 - 3000$
bro i need help i have a i9 13900k and hes is really hot when i try play cyberpunk 2077 and i have a water cooler and air cooler
What are your full specs? What settings do you play? Low or medium or high or ultra? With or without raytracing?
@@MrAnimescrazy i play on hight in 4k i have a 4080 tuf 64gb ram 6000mhz my mobo is gigabyt arego g 790
no ray tracing
@otakufedido49 ok so a high end pc nice. My pc is in my profile picture I went with my first all white high end pc with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 in the white phanteks nv7 case. I deep clean my pc once a month. I would recommend you look at undervolting videos on the 13900k, replace the thermal paste, buy a contact frame for the cpu to help reduce the temperature, deep clean your pc inside and outside and if you need to take it all apart to deep clean do that, improve the cable management for better airflow, delete apps and games you are not using or don't need to free up space on your ssd, don't use Google Chrome unless if you need to and use opera gx and go to the settings for opera gx to make it more efficient, deep clean the area the pc is in whether it is your room or the living room etc., buy an air purifier to help reduce the amount of lint that gets in the pc. You might have to get a better and or bigger case for more airflow. Look at cleaning and replacing the thermal pads on the 4090. This is everything I could think of off of the top of my head to help improve temps.
@otakufedido49 Greg Salazar and a few other people on youtube clean pc's so you can see how they deep clean. I don't do what they do because that is a lot of extra work but I clean my pc with q tips, a makeup brush and glass cleaner. I will clean my pc this week when I am off of work.
Are this fps with dlss or whitout DLSS.
rtx4080 be like, we are same-same . same-same but different🤣🤣🤣
I bought a 4080S FE 960£ lol its 200£ cheaper then a normal 4080 worth it if u ask me 4090 600£ more but i also think its worth the money too
wow hi whats cpu cooler i need this
im fighting the urge to upgrade my gpu but im waiting for the 5090
What are your current specs? I am also waiting for the 5090.
the issue is like the 4090 the price will be to the moon at first... then it drops cause shops cant sell... then it rises again at some point... so u still have to be patient for the price drop u may have to wait 6 month or more after release for good price drops or pay up to 1000€ extra to be a early bird
@@luxaly9510 waiting is no problem.
Yeah if it is same or just slightly higher priced than the current 4090 then I am getting that one also
lmao $2.5k for a GPU is crazy irresponsible. just go with quattro at this point cuz 40/5090 is a waste for games
Need rtx 4080 ti super
With Turbo Cache.
I’ll take 4080 Super, I don’t want to see big bright and smoky light with 4090
We need 4060 ti super so bad. The fact that we need to spend >550$ to get a decent 4000 series card sickens me.
True!
cpu cooler name pls man
4090 = 350w+++😮😮😮
5090= 600w+ xD
get Super +1 fps more
In my country 4080S is 15-25% more expensive that the ordinary 4080.
when is the 5000 series coming up? is it worth it waiting for that generation instead of upgrading today?
2025
depends on what you are playing on now, do you want to wait and yes, the 5th generation is just around the corner and it makes sense to wait, but again the question is price
what I learned is that there is always something new around the corner. If you have the financial possibility go for it. Year and a half is a lot of time.
june 2024
Yes a 5080 will beat a 4090 for less so I would wait
In India, 4080 super is more expensive -. -
In KZ too :)
pls cpu cooler name
No gap between both 4080. In fact Nvidia lowered the price, recovered all 4080's boxes and printed "Super" on them. Clever 🤣
The only good Super Card this Year was the 4070 Super it has actually a Performance Boost and is now like a 4070ti but without 16gb vram a no go for me
20 to 30 fps more but 100 more watts
i dont think people with 4090 cares for how much power it draws lol they want max quality and performance cuz money is not the issue
I suppose that people who buy 4090 don't mind paying 80% more money for 20 or 30% more performance either.
@@theobserver9479 Exactly, I bought a 4090 because even though the price to performance is not there compared to the 4080 at $999, 30% faster on average (and 50% in some games) is A LOT. I don't mind paying premium if the performance uplift is big, and in this case, it is
@theobserver9479 you can always find sales or deals or used or open box 4090s so you can possibly pay msrp or lower.
The 4090 is the most expensive card I've ever seen, i dont think even some collectors limited edition was as expensive. The 4080 Super is the most useless release I've ever seen, in raster there is no difference between the 4080's.
just 30% faster for 80% more money.
law of diminishing returns google it and the card is not for pleb
I don't think the gain was due to the video card
Just numbers, in game, you wont miss the 4090 over the 4080.
this deserves a billion views
1850 $ ????
I buy 4080s right now for 774$. If 5080 will have only 16gb vram and cost 999$ or more… i think i did well. If 5080 have 24gb for 999$ i think i did wrong…
5080 is going to be the better bet still
Games 4080 : 60 fps 4080 super: 61 fps 🙂
4080 : 47 4080 super :48 🙂
4080 : 80 4080 super : 82 🙂
4080 super ??????
4090 in its own league.
for only 20fps more and twice the price is a waste of money.
@@picanha694I agree but you know people will fall for it
of price
Glad I got the 4080 Super for MSRP in germany when it launched. The 4090 is just not worth the cost. Its barely 35% faster in best cases but costs basically twice what a 4080 Super costs..
It's not dedicated for gaming anyways, more towards AI/Machine Learning and such stuff and that's what makes it way expensive
4080 having 1 fps of 1% low more than 4080 super on Hogwarts Legacy …
Lo de la 4080 súper es un insulto, si Nvidia la cataloga como tal deberia haber una mejora al menos de un 8%. Por que lo unico super aqui es que vale 200 dolares menos.
Better 1% lows and temps on 4080 S (compared to standard 4080). Due to the lower temps could do with some OC then further boost performance. Not quite what i would expect from a Super model but...better than nothing.
Hogwarts is just badly optimized i think for all cards
Can you add fps games benchmark too or a dedicated video for it
So, you want cpu performance
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People are insulting the 4080s for getting just 1 fps more than the 4080, but do they know that it's 100 bucks less?
Перешел с 4080 на 4080 супер. Доволен как слон.
20-30% more performance
I really regret buying the 4080 super. Its powerful and everything but i honestly wish i stuck with 4070 super and saved close to 500. I had bought the 70 super and loved it but was so worried about the vram i returned it. After that i got the 4070 to super and it was a decent bump in performance but mostly i was happy i had 16gb vram just in case. I then thought i might as well spend 200 more and get the 4080 super it should be in the middle of the 4090. But nope its a 4080 almost exactly and most games its 1 to 3 fps better.
20 fps for 750$
That is huuge in 4k
Whoever made the 4080 Super must have also made the 4080
Should get the rtx 4080 since the 4080 super is released people will buy the 4080 super instead so the price of the regular 4080 might drop a bit
No. The 4080 super was released in the first place to offer a cheaper 4080
@@LEK so shops that have 4080’s and 4080’s super gonna sell the 4080 cheaper to get rid of them
I wish 5060 will provide what 4090 give. Games are now too demanding.
It will. Just like the 4090 beats the 3090 and ti and 3080
Nvidia took it too seriously with the 4090 💀💀💀
Rtx 4090 is 20fps higher in every title
Me using Mobile data watching on 360p 👁️👄👁️
Imagine: 4080s 11502Mhz, 4090 10502.😂 i overclocked my 3090 easy stable +2000mhz vram its crazy how good is ddr6x. But i stay 1500mhz.
1 FPS = 200$
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
200 less you should prob add
Now take these numbers and compare them to 4060 and 4070 😅
so 4080 is 1k and 4090 its almost 2k, for only 20fps+
vale la pena pasar de la rtx 4080 super a la 4090?
only if you have nowhere to put the money
Why didn't Nvidia release a 4090ti this time around? Will they do the same for the upcoming 5090 as well?
they had a 4090 ti in backup in case amd matched the 4090. it didn't.
All video cards are of completely different vendors and models. This is bad.
Nearly a grand more for 20 fps increase on starfield lmao
4080 = 4080
4080 Super = 4080 with SUPER price
As video thumbnail 4080s not cheaper than 4080😂
4080s and 4080 not have huge performance and power consumption difference, only have price difference.
4090 is beast, but money and power hungry 😢
4090 was the only card that was worth it for me
What are your specs?
@@MrAnimescrazy 14700k, 32gb ddr, 4tb nvme ssd, 4090
@romankozlovskiy7899 nice a high end build.