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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- After Haitani showed us the power of Modern Chun-Li at EVO 2023 by making top 6 (defeating me in the process), I really wanted to explore her some more. I've played classic Chun-Li a lot so I figured the transition might not be as hard. The reactions that you gain from modern might actually make Chun-Li top tier with modern...
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There's one more thing Modern chun-li missing: Jump heavy punch: no longer J2MK>J2MK>JHP>JHP sequence means you lose a lot of corner carry and no more safe-jump/meaty fireball setup which is a big deal. Also 3HK is not just gimmick, it's also used as a side-switch combo after DI PP when in corner.
Did you mean 2MK?
@@jevonreynolds1252 Yes, it's a typo
Modern Chun-Li has a simplified game plan and a strong zoning element with fireball changes and her anti-air being 1 button. Classic chun has significantly more safe jump setups, meaty stance mixup in the corner and much higher damage. I can see why some people would like modern, it does help in some areas and it really lessens the mental stack. I prefer classic because I like learning all aspects of the character, it just keeps me interested in playing longer. I love Chun-Li in Sf6, I hit master rank months ago and I'm still learning a lot about her.
Your breakdown at the beginning of how Modern still keeps the base of her gameplan intact was really cool
It kinda feels like the question is "Is my character better on modern or classic?". What do you give up and what do you gain? If you ignore the modern you'll probably lose to it. It fees like you need to understand modern even if you don't use it.
Modern Ryu and Cammy on controller and Stick for Manon/Ken. That’s my setup
@@Itslewcario did you start with classic and adapt to modern, or is this your first game with modern being your first option? No judgment. I'm just looking for data.
@@ericsimonson8002 started Modern on the beta and got my stick a couple months ago and use classic with the stick. I’m a hybrid player but the only other game I’ve played fighting wise was Fighterz
@@Itslewcario thank you very much for the info.
@@Itslewcario if you don't mind me asking , what stick do you use? I'm in the market.
As someone who cant afford a fighting stick, Modern controls are amazing, i hit 95% of all my combos and mix ups, rarely drop one and the instant air DP really puts jumpy players in their place. Also the fireball, since you just have to charge back and throw it, you can spam away to make them jump or DI and punish hard.
I would prefer a classic easy super input than the modern stuff. Am using modern but hate losing 3 option when jumping
Respect the modern chun, but that cammy cooked with hooligans to a degree I’ve never seen before
Any chance of seeing your Modern Juri takes? I'm rather curious to see how she'd perform in Modern.
DK Country soundtrack is hands down the best soundtrack out there! ❤
Modern Chun Li along with all of the Modern cast is decent the thing that's crazy about one of my demons Cammy is that she generally speaking is just as relatively insane to deal with on Classic as she is on Modern in most cases where I face her while Modern tends to buff the rest of the cast if you can mentally adjust to the new strange inputs (Something I'm still working on as my muscle memory doesn't change easily especially between the two control schemes)
Man when did the switch flip from everyone doggin modern to every pro player hitting the "MODERN IS THE WAY?!"
People online rage quit against Modern and complain a lot on Steam.
I find that a lot of people that shits on M doesn't even know what it is, i.e., many of them thinks that everything you do is auto combo. Many skilled players HAS been intrigued by M. M isn't cheap, it's just an alternate playstyle. If anything, whether M or C is better is still up for debate. Dogwater players will complain about anything when they lose. In the case of SF6, shitting on M is the obvious easy choice.
@@YeahNaw feel like people may be looking for something to direct negative energy at and they chose ken players and modern players
@@YeahNaw Modern is cheap. Top players just try to find the most OP thing since that's their job, hence why Japanese only play top tiers since there is a high level competition there.
"Dogwatwer players will complain", if you speak about beginners then that's their right, they're trying to learn the game and probably get discouraged by people just smashing buttons to get a full combo + super, their frustration is understandable since 20% damage reduce means nothing for them since even intermediate seasoned players constantly drop combos and can't AA consistently, better not drop anything and have an artificially improved reaction time than dropping and get punished, your 20%+ damages are meaninglessness in those scenarios, and you can do the full inputs if wanted anyway.
In the other hand you seem like a company shill or just someone unable to do basic inputs.
@@MastaBroshiX Or some players may have constructive criticism and not everything is crying. There are obviously S tiers that have everything in this game (Luke JP Ken etc) and some that don't have much and modern controls are obviously unfair for beginners wanting to learn the game, funny when this mode was probably made for beginners
What is your button layout when using modern chun?
Playing modern chun li and modern luke changed the way i saw modern😭 modern luke is so much better
How?
I died when he said including me. And legit fact he did. 😅 Love chun li in 6. Great content. Best of luck
Modern also lacks the jumping light kick air to air. Not sure about light punch. Both are very niche.
The big disadvantage with down down input for antiair is that its impossible to input it while crouching, like how DPs can be inputted as 232p. Since you have to stand for at least one frame before you get air invuln you cant antiair in some situations (crossups being an annoying one)
Im sayin. They need to give us a crossup AA normal if they want it to be this way
Literally anyone jumping mad and neutral jumps can destroy a chun.
5MP is the way to go
@@PharmArtist99use air to airs then. She wins hard on those.
can you make a modern chun li guide? Nothing exists on youtube for specifically modern chun li game plan and combos
Never played modern Chin-Li but now I'm motivated to at less give it a try
They 100 percent need to fix her anti-air special move. It wiffs so much, when it shouldn't but i still love Chun-li 😅
I mean juri's heavy dp is the same, maybe she has a better version like juri's medium dp?
Juri has multi purpose AA's, chun has a broken one and two worse choices that are as broken as the "good" one, and then you decide to spend bar to make it faster on the start up and the second part whiff, fun stuff.
@@diogogarcia7970well that sucks
I really am interested in modern theory.
My only problem with maining Chun is her trash antiair. Other than that im liking her play
If ur trying modern I think u should try modern cammy
14:10 lol
5:28 legit capcom fix her fckn dp cause Jesus Christ smh 🤦🏽♂️
Someone said modern controls do less DMG compared to classic, is that true?
Yes
Chun def better in classic like pretty much everyone else.... and those over heads aren't gimmicky imo it adds to the mental stack... hard disagree with your assessment
Damn must have missed you in top 6 evo as classic Chun. Oh wait it was modern Chun. Nope didn't miss the noob.
her gamplan involves being actually good at the game, if you want gimmicks just play kim or dee jay, otherwise if you play chun lemme just say her overheads are doodoo and reactable, no mental stack is getting rid if that.
were you in top 6?@@Psikick4
@@hjblacdes61 modern Chun was??? Idiot.
@@Psikick4why do you need to insult someone to get your point across
Nephew when I was watching your match vs hiatani, I was actively trying to hex him so you could win. But unfortunately those aren't real. It was still awesome to see you play you are my favorite sf6 player. So I always love watching you play. I also learn so much, especially when in your streams.
I Love M chunli!
I do feel like "You need to make new combos for everything. " could have warranted more inflection in your tone. That seems pretty important to us mere mortals. You never sound flustered. It's pretty impressive.
The street fighter pros loves clickbait it seems
All content creators love clickbait
@@chm2 very true haha
Thats how youtube works
I just won with modern juri
They should have scrapped modern and made classic controls a bit easier to perform. They would have been a real solution
I think it's best to have one control scheme but the option for easier inputs for significantly less damage
Shame that Juri is pretty much impossible to justify playing modern
You going pro or something?
Good lol
Im fine with modern but i hate the fact that its actually competitive at the highest level. Its like aim assist in apex legends all over again
Agreed its very irritating
Look all it does is trade off damage for reaction time and the fact it can compete makes it balance.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 similar argument people made in apex early about controller and fast forward to 2023 mnk is obsolete. lets see modern in a year from now
@@suzuya0no way ur coping in two different games lmao. If ur not a pro on either game just quit tht dumb argument. Nobody is beaming u in ur gold lobby, and ur not facing kami-bot on modern in sf6 in winners finals lmao.
Please don’t break that AA nonsense here. 😂
I'm pretty sure she keeps her standing heavy kick on modern.
Your poop at this game bruh!
my poop was where now
Modern just needs to be separated from classic as a toggle. Frankly, I'm at high-plat and low-diamond, and I find the glut of modern that exists there is just too much of a slog, and I am starting to lose interest due to Ken and/or modern is nearly of all of what I play.
Yup same it's like people who abuse Aim assist in Apex
I can agree with Ken but I never see Modern and when I do I get excited when I’m playing it to see how creative some people can be
Your just so use to just fighting modern shoto I guess. Not every modern character has a one button dp lol
I climbed from Rookie to Gold, and it really hurts for my level. Against classic players at my level, there are times where I have momentum where I know they will probably be too flustered to perform hard options. But against modern, that second level of effort is non-existent and now I am the one that has to put extra effort in my considerations when I feel I should have the upperhand
If you're playing modern scrubs that rely on instant shit, it's an easy win. If you're that good you shouldn't be in plat, just saying.