E61 CO2 Incident

[@bayareadago]

First, thank you all for your service & dedication.
Second, I work in the beverage industry, specifically as a McDonalds systems specialist. I am very familiar with all the mentioned equipment. That Co2 detector was not properly installed, not to mention, altered. The company I work for is amidst a nationwide effort to rectify these dangers. I have personally been sharing this video with McManagement, to help warn an otherwise completely ignorant demographic. Thank you again.

[@PaulBalentine]

Kudos, to the Phoenix Fire Department for putting the spotlight on this unique incident. This incident highlights the importance of using all your senses on a call. What seems like a "routine" medical call at the outset could be something entirely different. This could happen anywhere and to anybody. Thank You for sharing your "lessons learned" with the rest of us. Be safe, Brothers,
PB

[@bfromhold]

Thanks for the informational video! Glad no one was seriously hurt. Thank you for posting your video to share with others, especially those in the fire service like myself. Hopefully it'll help emergency responders to approach these types of calls in a less "routine" manner. It'll definitely be a reminder for me to approach scenes "expecting the unexpected".

[@crushedlt]

@pjdeanjr. Thanks fir the video, my dept was just talking about purchasing 3 new meters the night before I saw this video. We were going to buy three meters for 3 gas. I think now we will purchase 2 three gas and 1 five gas since the 5 gas detects CO2. Glad I saw this video so we can purchase the correct equipment. Thanks and stay safe.

[@zgseattle7]

Thank you PFD for sharing your experience! This call made me wonder if there were any Fire Code violations for their storage practices. I looked in the IFC (and got some help from an expert) and found a couple of issues here that would have prevented this situation...

[@zgseattle7]

1)The transfer hoses were not compliant with CGA P-1 or IFC Section 3005.7
2)The basement was not equipped with a mechanical ventilation system in accordance with IFC Section 3007.2
Warning signs for occupants and responders are a requirement as well. I’m heading out with my clipboard now….be safe.

[@ClaytonFireDeptNC]

Thanks for sharing!! Will be using for our upcoming HazMat refresher!

[@femkem99]

God job guys.From the begining to the end of the story.

[@alefkowitz2]

First, I'm thankful no one was seriously injured. But I have a question. When Acting Captain P.J. Dean talks about the readings on his squad's portable gas meter, he makes several references to "natural gas"; and how CO2 can give a false positive reading of the presence of "natural gas." What exactly is "natural gas?" Is Acting Captain P.J. Dean referring to methane, ethane, propane, or something else?

[@ClaytonFireDeptNC]

Thanks for sharing! We will be sharing for our upcoming HazMat refresher!

[@DennyMunson]

Thank you for sharing. This is good for training.

[@87mini]

Natural gas is mainly methane. The multi-gas meters that have combustible gas, oxygen and CO detection (their "serious meter") are usually calibrated for larger chain hydrocarbons like hexane (theirs look like it was calibrated to isobutylene). Some departments have a meter that is specifically calibrated to methane - a"natural gas" meter - their "Gas Ranger". Gas companies carry those too. This instrument is sensitive to CO2 as well, so the CO2 caused the false positive. Nice job, guys!

[@brettadamsga1]

Thanks for the info, I will be passing this along to others.

[@ClaytonFireDeptNC]

Thanks for sharing!

[@phxfire1952]

Great Video!!!!!

[@Texasreiguy]

Great video and thanks for sharing! We just found three restaurants like this in our area.. Do you have any docs on this emergency you can share other than a video? Thanks

[@Victorvalley]

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