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It's too bad you guys can't comment on xinjiang, I wish you could make a vid on the horrible shit that's going on there but you'd prob get in a lot of trouble.
I was in Shanghai before and I bought these headphones from an english speaking seller. The next day it got broken and I went back to the same seller to return the item. She suddenly couldn't speak english anymore.
As a Chinese here, all of these points you two make in this video is so true. You have really gained a very good knowledge about China. And I am so happy to know more about my country from foreigners' perspective.
The Soviets often stole their tech from the West, when the British tipped the US to a major spy network, the US rolled up the entire thing in a couple years. Their tech fell behind almost immediately. Their Science was abysmal. Trofim Lysenko personally set Soviet progress back by decades. Hell China adopted some of his theories and that contributed to the Great Chinese Famine.
But soviet products for mass consumption were often amazing in quality. I grew up in Poland and in the apartament I grew up in we still have a functioning black and white TV my grandma bought in Russia in like 70s-80s. Did not break once. Same for washing machines. Sure, some stuff might have had a bad name, but some people always said that the western products weren't supposed to last that long as capitalism requires you to repurchase stuff from time to time while if a factory in a soviet country had a blueprint to make quality product they would make it quality, no need to cut corners if profit isn't your concern lmao.
@@aw2584 I assure you that in the West that B&W TV's from the era you are describing worked for a long time. But nobody wanted them since color TV's were available. The older simpler washing machines also worked for a very long time. But in the US at least new models came out and people threw out the durable, but inefficient, obsolete models. The thing that people forget is the junk washing machines and TV's people are talking about were super cheap. It didn't matter if a TV broke after only 5 years, since it cost less than a half a weeks salary in the 80s (and were generally better than those available in the Eastern Block).
Tires! In the RV community, there is a huge debate about what is referred to as "China bombs." ST (special trailer) tires in the US are almost all made in China. They are a specialty tire that is only tested at 85% marked weight to 55mph and rated to 65mph. They are only to be used on trailers. Most new RV trailer manufactures use cheap ST tires for cost savings but defend that by saying they are specially designed for trailers. The tires then blow out when people run them down the highway at 70mph. Lots of people then replace them with LT (light truck) tires that are tested to a much higher standard and carry no use restriction. They usually come from the US, Taiwan or Thailand. But you have very vocal people that fall for the sales pitch and tell you not to do that. That ST tires are better because they are made for the special conditions of a trailer... Because the manufacturer says so. You commonly get called racist for telling people not buy china ST tires even though we are telling them to buy Taiwan or Thailand along with American LT tires. It's really hard to get people to understand the culture issue. They just want to call you a racist.
I think i read something a few years ago about a chines company poorly retreading old tiers to sell as new for profit. China's good for ordering simple things like screw drivers and drill bits where it's not such an issue if they break but when safety is concerned you need to know the right checks are in place and get them from somewhere with higher standards like the UK, EU or US.
Last thing I would want is to be stuck on the side of the highway with a motorhome trying to replace the tire, sounds like a nightmare situation that I would pay any extra cost to avoid.
The "racist" card is a common go-to for disagreements even tangentially related to anyone who isn't just like you, it's a get out of jail free card to win any arguments in front of other people, as the social damage to you from being called something like that damages your credibility and likeability (and by proxy your argument regardless of its validity) so it more than makes up for them being utterly wrong ignoramuses and just taking someone else's beliefs as gospel. Same for anything else we might commonly agree on being bad, like sexist, homophobic, even nazi in 2018 if you can believe it. Anything to damage your credibility to make themselves look good in comparison, because that's their only hope of doing so.
It's hilarious but actually very German, in terms of the word and grammar. 哈尔滨哈龙干啤酒饮品有限公司 Ha Er Bin Ha Long Gan Pi Jiu Yin Pin You Xian Gong Si. So abbreviation is HEBHLGPJYPYXGS
@@milamber319 well I find German language likes stacking words together to form a new word and often use abbreviations because the words are too long to write. And this HEBHLGPJYPYXGS kind of reminds me of German long words. Example: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz, Cattle marking and beef labeling supervision duties delegation law, often abbreviates as RflEttÜAÜG
My dad grew up in the Bay area of California , (San Jose to be precise), and when he started his first company a small little mom and pop diner opened up about a block from his shop. The prices on the food were pretty average, but the food his employees would bring back to the office was always top notch. So one day he decided to go down and get an omelette for breakfast. The shop was run by first gen Chinese people, a mom, dad, two sons, and a daughter. Well my dad put in his order and he watched the father in the kitchen start making the omelette, (a 3 egg omelette). My dad had a keen eye and spotted something interesting, every third egg the man would crack he would dump the yolk off into a separate bowl, while putting just the white in with two other whole eggs. So his "three" egg omelette was really a two and a half egg omelette. What did he do with the other yolk? simple, he added it to a single sunny side up egg to make two sunny side up eggs. I know Americans have probably done the same things, but at least they are sneaky about it, this guy cut corners in front of the whole diner, and no one called him on it, (well my dad called him on it, and from then on he never tried to cut corners on my dads order).
And this Chinese guys probably does the same to his own meal. After generations of food/resource shortage, the "cutting corner" thing is baked into their DNA. I know because I am Chinese too, born in the 80's with parents working for a city-sized state owned corporation I was so lucky - never had a taste of material shortage. But I surely heard of stories and later observed the effect of generations of poverty on people from older generations and less fortunate friends' families. Some might mistake this "cutting corner" with greed, but I genuinely believe in most cases it's just their natural behavior - always try to save in case something went wrong (like a famine or war hits). That probably also explains why the two and a half egg guy didn't even try to hide it, because he probably grew up watching his family cooking & saving eggs like that - if his family were lucky enough to get hold of any eggs at all (food like eggs were once rationed and hard to come by during the communist party f**k up period before they realized and opened up the country to the world).
Chinese restaurant we would go to take out for years from suddenly started chopping their ribs in half....i walked the order back and demanded (in Mandarin) how do you sell this to people? The guy said "the foreigners like it like that" ....i walked out with another order for free bcuz i knew the shit he was pulling....and needless to say, i dont go there anymore.
Yeah, not sure why but Chinese beer is sold in 720ml bottles, @@beetleything1864. The cans which are available in convenience stores are comparable to North America (375ml ?) but the bottles are available everywhere though often the selection can be limited. But dirt cheap (720ml costs 3 yuan, about 45 cents and 1 yuan of that is deposit on the bottle!)
I don't know how the cops handle violent drunks, but you frequently see people passed out on the sidewalk and it's ignored. Except for politics, where there is zero tolerance for any dissent, Chinese people have way more personal freedom than you can imagine. Plenty of things are technically illegal, but enforcement doesn't largely doesn't exist. Booze is a problem in China, but from my (quite limited) observations it would seem to be more groups binge drinking in bars, rather than alcoholics drinking in the street, although both exist. But the cops? Not unless you're causing trouble.
Chinese companies building poor quality apartments blocks in Australia. Problems with leaks when it rains especially basement car-park and overall bad engineering/design.
@@mindmybusynass.m3602 Are you a genuine 50 cent army member? Your style of writing doesn't look like it belongs to the man in your photograph. Back to the re-education centre with you for English lessons!
Chinese Junk used to be a type of boat. Now it's everything. I can't trust 'em. You can't either. I had some aluminum castings made there. The whole 2nd batch (2000 parts) was cast at too low a pressure. My ergonomic motorcycle handlebars looked nice on their surface, smooth and shiny; in cross section they looked like like swiss cheese. They put me out of business.
I used to be an Authorized Inspector in the boiler and pressure vessel industry. There was a rash of material failure (read that how you like, injuries occurred) because various Chinese parts (flanges, etc) were stamped with illegitimate markings. Lots of it was even stamped "made in USA".
@@davesy6969 so you use Ali Baba and deal only with high rated suppliers if you're ordering from China direct, it's not rocket science. you're just a racist, frankly. i buy Chinese and never have a problem unless i buy something stupidly cheap which yes, can fail fast. there are plenty of counterfeiters right here in Europe but you talk like its only China that fakes stuff.
Long time ago I had a CPU cooler, standard, came with the CPU. It had a low-profile Foxconn fan on it. That was in the era of turbine-like tuning obsession. The fan was virtually noiseless with good cooling power. I couldn't comprehend back then how a fan could be that silent.
My experience with China/Chinese people is somewhat bad. Mainly it's related to buying things from abroad,especially phone parts. I am trying to be independent from service centres,so I repair my phones by myself. I'm not a professional,but I keep improving my knowledge. Anyway, 2 years ago I bought a smartphone (Sony Xperia Z5 Premium) from Ebay. Everything looked okay on the pictures,stated as new. I bought it,it was very badly refubrished. He lied,it wasn't new. Gladly,I returned it back. Then,I decided to go on Aliexpress. I was exploring the site for weeks until I found a shop (Topco).Xperia XZ, new,the feedback was good,and the photos I saw were pretty much like the real deal. I bought it,used it for a month and I begun to understand that I was fooled again. The lcd screen was starting to get separated from the phone(it was also aftermarket), fingerprint not working etc... I only managed to get about 40$ back,even though the repair would cost me more. Another example: there is a shop on Ali based on selling parts. They disguise them as original,and well,they work almost as good. What I see now,other shops are copying them,placing almost the same pictures where it shows the "fake/original" parts, but they are trash. i can't find any original parts on Ebay/Aliexpress because everything is fake. Like,it feels like if you break your screen/battery etc you will be stuck with a fake one. Almost all the sellers lie to you so you would buy their knock-off. Sorry I bored you, it was my experience which I decided to share with you. Also sorry for any mistakes, Russian is my main language
It's very usual back in China if you buy anything from Taobao (almost same website and same owner as Aliexpress). So most Chinese use T-mall or JD(cetificated big brand online shops), nobody woluld buy eletronics from Taobao. If you are in China, you can easily buy phone parts. There is electronics malls in every city, all kinds of computer or phone parts and gadgets th-cam.com/video/BL0OvdTqzBs/w-d-xo.html
@@Victor-hy9ux Yeah, even the Russian T-mall is known for having great stuff with warranty. But I didn't know JD was a good website for buying stuff. I would love to come to China and buy all the parts to repair all my smartphones for a cheap price lol
That's my problem with can openers. I finally found an American company that is still manufacturing their own can opener. It's 100% made in the USA, all metal and costs like $10. I wish I had known that before I bought some Chinese plastic "kitchenaid" abortion for like $20.
I was watching China uncensored and seeing them talk about substitutions and gutter grease and things like that. I found myself in a store that takes remaindered items when big places go out of business, and I wanted to get some peanut sauce. There was a bottle of peanut sauce that looked pretty good but then I read "made in China." I looked around until I found some that was made in Thailand. Mind you in both cases this was Chinese style peanut sauce... Also Having learned a few years back how they grow tilapia fish-- that is one thing I will not eat.
@@skefsongames , they eat their own feces and the tanks they are grown in are pumped full of antibiotics and other chemicals to mitigate against disease; it's also been reported that they are fed human feces in China. If you do a search you will find that tilapia consumption is discouraged by nutritionists, dietitians and doctors in the know. It's like eating an inflammation bomb.
Donn Aldak - Winston does like American cars AND you may not know this, not sure if Winston mentioned it but his wife is a doctor. I do not know if Winston's doctor wife likes American cars though. ;-)
Me Personally, I buy American made (when I can afford it, because it’s expensive) because It helps keep people employed. When we opened up trade with a lot of developing nations (not just China) we couldn’t compete. Small towns largely had their economy based around 1 or 2 factories. Once those closed they were left for dead. The factory brought the vast majority of new money into the town, to be spent at the local shops which were mostly mom and pop shops that employed a couple of people each. Bigger things like the local diner and movie theater, which in small towns wasn’t usually a big chain, it was locally owned for the most part. They employed more then a few. Then when that new money stopped flowing in after the factories closed, the small shops couldn’t stay afloat and everyone either left or joined the new economy. The new economy is pretty much welfare, disability, and drugs to fill the void where a sense of purpose used to be. Because let’s be honest, everyone needs a sense of purpose. Once it’s gone it’s easy to play “poor me” and fall into drinking and drugs. Doctors peddling pain pills, weed growers, and meth cooks are the new factory. It’s a vicious cycle and it’s not even close to over. It’s the 3rd step of a nation. Struggle, prosper, fall. And don’t get me wrong that’s not the only thing that led to to the downfall of small town America. It’s definitely the biggest though. The second biggest Is cheaper airfare. Families used to pack up the car for a road trip because it was cheaper then flying. They’d have to stop at hotels and find things to keep the kids entertained along the way. These towns had weird quirky attractions to get them to go a few miles out of their way and spend the day. Stuff like the largest ball of yarn (real thing) even “south of the broader” off i95. South of the broader was a thriving business. It was an mini amusement park with an arcade, fair food, and all sorts of attractions. Families would stop for a day on their way to Mertel beach or Florida or wherever, spend money and spend the night. Now it’s an abandon fenced off run down eye soar on your drive down i95. So it’s about keeping the small town alive and making sure my kids have a decent country to live in.
@@rexscheib4382 It was a time when you could get a job out of high school doing pretty much anything from grocer ton construction laborer and by the time you were 25 you'd be finichally stable enough to start a family or a business. Unfortuanlty I was born to late. I avoided college but me and my girlfriend can barly make rent and we both make more then doubble the minium wage. luckiily we''ve found loopholes for first time home buyers and will own something in the next 2 years or so then we'll be savving enough to maybe think about a family. Just can't do it the way you used to. Hopefully i'm wrong and its not the fall of the country. I'd love for my kids to be able to grow up in a 50's-60's style economy America. Unfortunalty I don't see it happening though. We may get close but never fully return. the big chains took over. alot of peope would prefer applebees to joes diner becasue it's fimilar, they know it's consistant quality, and they don't want to chance a bad meal. As for things like walmart. They don't want to spend the extra few bucks at the local shop. Sometimes it's becasue they don't have it, other times greed. Either way. The best we can hope for is a slight return, if not atleast jobs for middel america.
@@mikebrennan7045 50s-60s economy would be great again (somebody should make that a slogan haha), but what a lot of people forget about was what preceded that era. In the early 40s was WWII with lots of rationing and men going off to fight. Prior to that was the 30s with the great depression. My grandparents were part of the migration from the dust bowl to California. They didn't get to enjoy raising their kids in their hometown even way back then - although postwar California was pretty awesome. Postwar America benefited greatly because we were one of the only industrialized nations that wasn't blown to hell. There was a strong demand for our products and the labor market was relatively tight since there was no place to off shore to, automation didn't really exist, and immigration was controlled.
@@mikebrennan7045 Study the History of the Federal Reserve and you will see that Amerika has been given to the Bankers. The Federal Reserve's policy of creating inflation is criminal and they are stealing your money through Banking policies. Cyprus did this but they were open and took 10% of savings accounts. Our Banker's used to do it in secret but they are so bold now and Amerikan's are working so hard they do not take time to the control the government. An example of the Federal Reserve destroying the currency, I was in Japan in 1984 and the exchange rate was 250 yen per dollar, today 90. In 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created, the Dollar was worth a Dollar in Gold, today the Dollar is worth 3 cents and backed by nothing. The Federal Reserve is Unconstitutional as it is a private banking system paid for my the Amerikan citizens. The Federal Reserve will not allow Congress to do an audit. We have no proof that we still maintain gold reserves at Fort Knox. Amerika is drowning in debt and it is lowering the Amerika standing of living. Farms were repossessed in the thirties and the 80's and it is starting to happen again with crop prices too low. We will answer for all the debt someday. Live as poor as you are able and teach your children not to get caught up in buying junk and keeping up with the Jone's. You're correct, such a different time....
Well America really should make a certain amount of their own products, it's wise not only economically but strategically and for longevity. No country should be dependent on another country for its manufacturing. However, newer model can be developed which is better than the old one. It doesn't have to be a fall, many prosperous nations and empires had their ups and downs. An economy with a stronger base in economy would be good for America, as well as taking agriculture back from the mega corporate farms.
Can you guys do a video where you go around trying knock off companies like starbucks, McDonald’s, KFC’s and places like that. For some reason I have a fascination with imitation products and I’d like to see how similar they are. Thanks!
Great idea. On you tube, Gamer's Nexus and other vloggers on PC building bought new "high end" Walmart gaming PC's and tore them apart and tested them and found they were very shoddy (can't remember if they were from China, but half the problem was the assembly quality was bad, as well as the components). It became a game for the vloggers to find new screwups in Walmart tech products and benchmark the sales and customer service methods, etc of other builders also.
Had the "pleasure" of reviewing a project for LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) import, designed and built by a Chinese company. Everywhere corners were cut, and workmanship/quality were lacking and safety was "Very Poor". 1 year after the facility was commissioned, it's basically falling apart, suffering from all kinds of corrosion problems, galvanic, pitting, crevice, you name it.
A friend had desired a 4WD for many years, finally die to lower cost bought a Great Wall 4WD. Sadly within 1st year his wife returning from visiting a parent, on the highway colidrd headon with a Toyota HiLux 4WD, on the wrong side of the road, drunk driver. The Toyota driver walked away with scraches. His Wife died on the way to hospital, as their Great Wall was crumpled to needing to cut her out of the wreckage. He skull was manggled, and she suffered extreme brain damage. The vehicle was highly dangerous as it had minimal crash worthiness. By the way the fitted seat belt also snapped!
well yeah, some people don't understand generalisations lol, you say X group of people is associated with Y and you'll always get that one person who gets triggered because it doesn't apply to every single person in group X
I'm a mechanic by trade in the US. I specialize in the performance industry. Mostly drag racing. I have constant (in the 90th percentile) issues with Chinese parts, especially knock off parts. Knock off parts are a big problem in performance parts. A lot of times it's hard to decipher between real and fake on installation but performance wise they show their true nature, bad- really really bad. Even with Chinese made replacement parts that are legit, is trying most times. Parts do not last long and are of poor quality.
@Rudolf Adler te envita I'm not holding my breath anytime soon! LOL! I can remember when NAFTA came in to effect that China bought many of the 3 and 5 axis CNC's at auction from companies that shut down due to manufacturing being brought to China. This is when their products took a large leap in quality, also due to many Americans that previously ran these machines going over there and teaching them how to use them efficiently. I'm not saying China is not able to figure it out but it seems as though they choose the easier route of copying how others do things. One thing they will almost always have is the ability to manufacture large quantities for cheap prices and this gives the appearance of being a world leader. As the old saying goes - Cheap and Fast will not be Good, Fast and Good will not be Cheap! Japan is an entirely different story though. I used to, and still do, look for tools made in Japan. They are/were great quality. Even the tools here now that are made in China are vastly subpar to the US's/Sweden's/Germany's/Japan's/etc..
I've been involved in racing of many sorts, NHRA, NASCAR etc. SEMA has been doing a good job these last few years calling out the garbage inferior (and dangerous!) racing parts that are falsely SFI spec'd. Cheap morons put this junk on street cars, the part fails (like a strut or suspension piece) and either get killed or seriously injured in an accident. Hell, even the POS AN fitting/hose market parts leak and fail all the damn time. Just what you need, a fuel leak at 80+ mph causing a fire.
I don't have any connections to China and I'm not into motorcycles, but somehow I love this channel all the same. The unfamiliar world of China and the things you two guys have gone through to get here fascinate me, and the clean presentation of all your videos is the icing on the cake. Thank you for bringing China to we who would know shit all otherwise... *time to subscribe*
This was a particularly good video, thanks. I spent some time in Hong Kong (almost moved there to deal with the factories in mainland) and was astounded by the differences in general thinking. The company I worked was a great example of those infamous "shortcuts" of which you speak. What a mind bending experience that was (but decided in the end not to work for them). That said, I came close....very, very close...
Vizio TVs used to be made in Japan. Costco wanted a bunch of them at a certain low price point but Vizio couldn't make them at that low price. So Vizio farmed it out to a company in China to build them and now they went from great customer reviews to horrible customer reviews. I will never buy another Vizio TV. Total Crap.
My father owns a Vizio TV. Based on his.. uh.. "review" (mostly cursing), I would have to agree with your assessment. It's nice to have an explanation for why it became this way though.
Something the people don't realize is that in the 60s and part of the 70s it was the Japanese products that were "cheap", then Korean and Taiwan in the 80s and finally Chinese.
@@andrewashkettle Iphones are produced in China. Huawei phones are quite good (I have one) The problem in this moment is not the ability of China of doing good products for exporting but the lack of brands and proprietary tech, something that won't last as a problem too long. The internal market is a completely different thing, they will keep doing crap quality for a while. People inside china are used to have crappy cheap quality. Their GDP per capita is yet the 71 below Brazil or Mexico.
Punto Devista True, iPhones are assembled in China but that doesn’t really mean much. They’re not Chinese products. Huawei is good but they’ve already tried to cut corners on hardware several times to my disappointment as it was and still is my favourite Chinese brand. Also, the government clearly keeps involving themselves which hurts the trustworthiness of the brand. Why do you think the lack of IP won’t be a problem for China for long? I truly think it’s a cultural and political problem that can’t be solved.
@@andrewashkettle You dismiss Huawei as brand but you simply need to see the curve of how is capturing the market and ask to yourself why this curve is going to stop and what will be the consequence if it continue. There is absolutely no sign that is going to stop. It is interesting that USA is throwing a fierce attack against this firm, but it was already partially blocked before and the European and Asian markets will remain. I personally have a Huawei and I would recommend it over Samsung, starting with the battery live, that for me is a key issue. Even understanding this is a personal opinion again look how they are increasing quickly the quality in each new mode and throwing a lot of muscle.
8:50 I find the same is true from many Indian people as well -- basic/consistent quality is a foreign concept. NOTE: I neither say _every_ Indian person, nor that it's _exclusive_ to just people of India.
Consumer protection in India is tied to poor public servants which are underpaid and also politically appointed (featherbedding) . They avoid the products they regulate.
Most customers today (but not necessarily consumers) have grown up during pre liberalisation days of India when barely functioning was the best one could get, if one could get it at all. When I was a kid in 90's there was a car called 118NE, which I suspect was a copy of Lada. That car was actually considered a luxury car back then. Hence older generations have the mentality that if it works, its alright. Also higher quality means higher cost. Interest rates are high in India and wage rates have not kept up with prices. So credit to buy costlier things is not there in lot of cases. Also the one of the points in the video is also valid in India as well. If people have money they will prefer to buy a prestigous foreign brand even if there was a Indian product available. So Indian companies do not have incentives to care about quality assurance.
I'm not a nationalist but Indian brands are really good at quality and people do love them. Mahendra and mahendra, hero motocorp, bajaj moters, royal Enfield, eicher moters are really good moter brands. TATA cars are not really good but they are really trying hard to be good. Let's talk about FMCG brands Parle, Dabur, Emami, Marico, wipro consumers, Jyothi laboratory, MDH, ITC, godrej, patanjali, Adani, Amul, Mother Dairy, Haldiram, Bikanerwala, CCD, Naturals, Kingfisher beer, United Spirits, UBG, VLCC and so on list is long.. Indian clothing brands: Raymonds, Loui Philippe, Van Heusen, Allen Solly, Peter England, Park Avenue, Monte Carlo, relaxo, liberty, Woodland, Oxemberg, Provogue, Indian Terrain, elle 18, lakme, American Swan, flying machine, spyker, Ritu Kumar, biba, fabindia, W for woman, Soch, pantaloons, goldsook, Titan, vimal, OCM, Bombay Dying, sitaram's , mayur, paragon, lakhani, khadim's, mochi, list is too long. Infrastructure: DLF, L&T, GVK, Lanco, GMR, Jaypee, and so on... Tell me which indian brands are not trustable? Indian brands are truly world-class despite indian gdp is just 20% of china's.. imagine the brand power of indian products if Indian gdp is 5 times what it is now. Forget about large sector brands, even cycle brands are really good quality: hero cycles, Atlas, Avon, Hercules, La Soverein, BSA Ladybird, Firefox Cycles, Montra, mach city cycles etc.. Tyre brands are unbeatable like MRF, Apollo, JK, CEAT.. I'm tried of this.. Chinese gdp is really big but they aren't even close to match quality of indian brands. Whatever sector it is. Fast growth doesn't always mean, quality growth.
Living in Vietnam, ive used my fair share of chinese products. and really, the majority of them have broken in some way pretty fast. Bought a fan and the plug part broke fairly easy when i tugged on it. Also, many people buying chinese cosmetics have been having thier faces melt off. So yea, buying from china is risky.
that's because you are poor,the quality of the cheap product is always bad, but you intend to try, on the other side,it means you want earn too much without a equal payment
@@alangabriel5361 You make a mistake in assuming cheap things are for the poor, there is a saying "too poor to buy cheap things", a poor person wouldn't buy a cheap piece of shit they know will break quickly and need replacing. The same reason why no one in China wants a Chinese manufactured car.
Great topic. Regarding poor quality in Chinese products, 50% of it is their willingness to substitute shoddy components after initial reviews are in. Just read comments on the US Amazon website about reviews on Chinese products. There are initial good reviews, then people start getting low quality substitutions or counterfeits such as Kingston SD memory cards. Another issue is terrible documentation or apps with bad translations. A perfect example is the Insta360 line of Chinese made 360 degree cameras. They had terrible documentation and I actually set mine aside for 4 months because I couldn't figure out the user interface or klunky software. AND, they thought a 3 minute goofy video of millenials jumping around and smiling was adequate to learn the product. I am beginning to think that chinese firms are too cheap and unsophisticated to ensure they have good technical writers. In comparison, buy a Japanese product like cameras, ettc and they have excellent, detailed manuals. Keep in mind the way that Japan became such a manufacturing powerhouse was they adopted US quality control standards when rebuilding Japan after WWII. Look up Edgar Deming who taught them quality control. China needs such a value and standard. President Trump keeps mentioning the shoddy steel that China would send us as one reason to implement tariffs to support re-implementation of US quality steel. Cheers.
I would say it's not just the fact that they took after a lot of US practices that makes Japanese products great - I would say that a BIG contributing factor, perhaps bigger actually, is their ancient culture - a culture that puts almost inhuman weight to duty, towards doing MORE, far, far more, than what's necessary, for your face, your honour, your clan. A society with a workers morale so high that a single mistake is self-punished by slicing yourself up with a sword does leaves its mark on a people.
It's not just China. I used to live in Japan and the post purchase support doesn't exist. Yes, with Japanese products you get better quality, proper manuals, etc, but if something breaks down and you need support, firget it, they will blame it on you. So basically, when it comes to Asians, they only care to sell it, once it's gone it's gone. Customer loyalty is just too abstract concept.
@@PostAtariGeneration I don't know but thought Japanese companies had good support, I use to work for a Kubota(Japanese tractor/lawn/light heavy equipment maker) dealer in the early 00's with my late father, and their Japanese support staff was 2nd to none even to the point of the company flying out support staff from Japan at great expense to test prototypes, and sort out issues we had with new products. Also Nintendo in Japan as well as Sony have a history of giving very long support for their gaming products with Nintendo repairing things like Famicom Disk System Units 20 years after their release date, and Sony just this year ending technical support for the PS2 in Japan. Maybe those companies are not the norm, but damn better than even some American, or European companies who won't even sell you parts to fix something yourself when they refuse to do as such *cough* Apple *cough*, and I'm saying this as a red blood partly Creek Indian Native American who was born on the 4th of July(no joke), that it's sad some foreign companies are better than American companies, and I could keep going on like Toyota who we know is Japanese, and cares more about the American worker, then even American brands like Chevy who had had their worker revolt more than once over the past few decades. Again sad, but true.
China has a cultural block in nderstanding this subject. if you study history you will see this had been part of Chinese culture for at least 2000 years. If you look at the catapults and trebuchets, boats, anything other than buildings meant to last a long time, construction was always fast and cheap and shoddy. When the English went to war against China they couldn't believe how easily their boats were obliterated. Chinese have lived by the idea a product has to last just long enough to get by for a very long time. The only difference would be things like palaces and forts. Sometimes they made excellent metal objects but it wasn't common.
Here's a perfect example. I've had my Honda Element since 2003 and a year ago I finally needed to replace the brakes. They had lasted slightly over 90,000 miles. Obviously they were original Honda calipers and rotors because they came with the car. So I went to my mechanic who I've been with for years to get new brakes. He gave me a quote for $710 for all four wheels. Why? because the genuine Honda pads and rotors came to about $600. So I went on Amazon and bought 'aftermarket' (read Chinese) components for a third of the price and fitted them myself. I was so pleased with myself saving all that money! One year later I've got bare metal from the pads scraping on the rotors. I had done less than 11,000 miles and they were shot. Gerry is going to bag on me mercilessly for my dumbassery and I'm going back to genuine Japanese Honda parts from now on. However in saying that my Huawei Honor 7x phone has been flawless for the past year. It's a really great phone.
I think the phones are the exception when it comes to Chinese products. I have a Huawei phone that's lasted me 3 years, runs smoothly, it hasn't slowed down like an apple phone would've.. also has more features and can replace the memory just by buying a new SD card. They have a lot of money, quality and technology in their phone companies. Would never go near a Chinese car or buy any vehicle from there though
My Chinese son in law wanted American milk powder, American baby cups, etc. because he doesn't trust local products. "We ship for U" stores in Chinatown, NYC sell American milk powder so Chinese people can ship it home to family in China easily.
yea, Australian supermarkets get their shelves cleared of milk powder and there was even a shortage for local people. Chinese living in Australia would buy as many tins as they can, to sell on the Chinese market for 4 times the price. They advertise on Chinese websites and make a lot of money. Its happening everywhere.
@@RogerBarraud Nah, don't ban it, this actually enriches your country(external money coming in, see: improved trade balance), I can see the logic in limiting volume in supermarkets so it doesn't run out for domestic use though.
+William Dudley I remember some years ago regularly seeing chinese women here in germany buying milk powder and such stuff in bulk. It posed such a problem that the number of units sold to one person was limited to three by the shops. Of course, some then tried different ways, by trying to buy it on seperate occasions, some hours apart.
I've been to Taipei many times back in the 70's and remember that Taiwan beer in those huge green bottles was very high in alcohol and tasted great. Me, and not many of my friends couldn't drink more than one or two without getting just a little drunk, but who cares... they are great ! And it looks like you guys are really getting sh..- faced, and that's a good thing.
@@MarkH10, I've seen a convincing argument that Jobs' bio is fake. According to what I read, his father was military intelligence and Apple is just an intelligence front. That's their real purpose. To change society in a managed fashion, or at least steer it in a desired direction. Manufacturing computers is just one way to accomplish that. Making media, first print and then video easy to create, sell and consume is another. This is why Apple never really has been about computer science or computer engineering, and for me, as an amateur computer scientist, this has been a big disappointment.
I bought a Joying (Chinese) android car stereo head unit and loved it. I was impressed with the quality, customer service, and obviously, the price, which was half of that of western brands. Joying and Pumpkin are the two main Chinese brands that I came across when I was looking. My wife liked mine, and bought a generic cheaper Chinese stereo for her car and has had countless problems. Goes to show...
At least half (if not more) of what you say about domestically produced and sold Chinese products is true. When I lived there, it became obvious that there were certain products that were in the "just good enough" category. This included clothing, toiletries, and most home furnishings. However, there were some noticeable exceptions. Domestically produced and sold Chinese TVs were, overall, far better than those in the U.S.. More specifically, they gave you much more for your money. Same for most kitchenware, such as cookware, knives, etc.. Certain domestic Chinese furniture was as good or better than anything made in the West. I also came across some Chinese power tools that were surprisingly rugged. Then, there are also some whole categories of product that were not readily available in the West (at the time) and fairly high-quality. These included induction cooking equipment, compact refrigerators, and compact washing machines. So, on balance I agree with you guys. But, there is a big caveat: This is just a snapshot in time, that is taken at a relatively early stage in this country's industrial and middle class development. The fact is that most developed countries have followed this same path in their industrial growth. The West is no exception. The lack of availability and affordability has historically fueled high-priced imports and low-priced knock-offs. In mid-18th century England, Wedgwood china came into existence largely due to the limited supply and extremely high price of Asian equivalents. During the same period, oleomargarine (margarine) became popular in Europe and America due to scarcity and price of fresh domestic dairy. Same story for saccharin, plastics, fake leather, Sears houses, the Model T, the Volkswagen, Spam, retread tires, etc, etc, etc. Even today, the principle applies. In just the past few months, the world supplies of real vanilla have been scarce and the cost has shot up. In response, the sales of imitation vanilla extract have skyrocketed. The bottom line is that people will buy the knock-off if its all they can afford, but when they have the money and the access to the product, they want the real thing.
Taiwan Draft us excellent. Remember when it comes to quality in Taiwan there are food scandals, but generally the preparation and produce quality is heavily influenced by 50 years of Japanese colonial rule. Keep up the good work boys.
We've had Xiaomi phones without any problems from China itself, they're getting quite popular now in the UK, they're opening a shop in London early next month, also the Three phone network are about to sell them as well. Will be interesting what they sell and how much.
Need to keep in mind that a chinese phone for the UK is a lot different than one made for china itself. Similar to the example Winston used with the drone.
lol I literally laughed out loud, cant remember last time it happened. That Chinese man walking taking the cement rail with him into the chanel... Time to subscribe, this might be the fith video I´ve seen from you two, so I guess it is about time.
This is a shocking point of view. In fact, Huawei has beaten Samsung and Apple in China. Chinese people are more and more interested in Chinese branded goods.
When I arrived in HK, one thing that surprised me was that the local Chinese were not shy about their voicing their preference for Japanese products. It was almost embarrassing to listen to. But as time went by, I understood clearly.
In Vietnam the people don't like stuff shipped from China to Vietnam, but will get Chinese made products that were shipped to developed countries. There is an open belief that China sends their good stuff to developed countries and their bad stuff to SE Asian countries.
Okay so, IMMEDIATELY after you said "if you by a chinese car it's only because you're poor" an add came on for a chinese car entirely in chinese. So... that happened
Ha ha you guys crack me up 😂 no matter where the journey brings you: look back on all your amazing adventures. You guys are really the best source on Chinese news and documentary on this globe.
Its maybe a bit similar here in Slovakia atleast in the past right after communism fell. I guess today its better, i am sure china will also change with time.
Bunch of people watching from CZ and SK! One thing to consider is that we didn't start from zero after the fall of commies. We've allways had top notch engineering. For example Porsche started as Tatra knock-off (and not very good one) These days, Skoda ranks close to top on reliability charts (some say it is because the high end stuff is more complicated and breaks more..). Not sure how it's chinese branch is doing tbh, but i read they sell a lot of cars there..
ADVChina Communism has surprisingly little to do with it. Centuries ago in the western world - especially western Europe, the guild system was well established with the main aims as fostering professionalism in the manufacturing industries, and assuring product quality, and this passed into the western collective psyche. China never went through that, besides, manufacturing and commerce were considered to be the domains of the lower classes and should be frowned upon. As a bit of a hobby I study the history of industries in China in the 20th century, when the Imperial era was on its last leg in the first decade, and then civil war and WWII did not help with industries. That said, many entrepreneurs did try to develop local industries as a way to combat the influx of imported goods. While some put efforts into making competent products, most just did it in shoddy ways; that did not help with the reputation of Chinese products even among the locals who would rather pay more for dependable imports. The current situation in mainland China is a continuation of this mentality both in the supply and demand sides. Taiwan is an exception as the US had a strong influence after WWII, much like in Japan where they realized that making shoddy products was not a sustainable business model. Witness the rise of Japanese goods like cars, cameras, etc to the forefront and that was what Japan learned from the Americans, and Taiwan did much the same as well, albeit on a smaller scale.
I witness the rise in Chinese phone quality all the time, like the recent Huawei stuff sold in Europe or those electric scooters made by Xiaomi which pretty much any scooter company uses (and phones). I think 10 more years and things will change, I don't know if they will change for products sold in mainland, but products meant for markets outside China... Chinese companies are more and more aware that there needs to be top notch quality control.
@MagischesLicht The PRC was established four years after WWII ended. What the Americans established in Japan, S Korea and Taiwan was the mentality of product quality. For example, in the photographic industry in Japan, the quality of pre-war products were generally abysmal with very few exceptions. After the war, with the new quality-focussed mentality in place, less-good products died away very quickly and it took a little less than a decade for Japanese photographic goods to be considered at least on par with the best from anywhere in the world; the same also applied to electrical/electronics, automotive, etc.
@MagischesLicht America also taught the Soviet Union the techniques of mass production, quality control, and the ways to design products to that end. Timex's methodology was applied not only to the Soviet watchmaking industries, but also the arms industries, the T-34 was a prime example most people are familiar with. So it's not purely capitalism vs communism, or free economy vs planned economy; it's a bit more complicated than that.
Good discussion. I have been living in the Philippines from the USA for a few years and I am convinced many of the Chinese products, like my Asus phone, are not the same quality as the same model in the USA.
Thanks guys really like your vids......so honest and eye opening......good to see something real.....lve given a thumbs up and subscribed......keep up the good work
Back in 2014, I was in Japan working for a year before I went to university, and my Xperia Z1 phone broke. So I tried my luck with a Chinese phone brand called Cubot, because it was cheap and had decent specs for the money (I bought the phone off either eBay or aliexpress, can't remember which). I was generally happy with the phone, and it was decent. One day when I took my phone out of my pocket, I noticed the screen glass had broken, so I ordered a replacement screen. When the new screen arrived from china, and I set about replacing the screen, I noticed that why the screen had shattered in my pockets. All the components (e.g mainboard, battery, cameras) were mounted on the screen, and the screen back was made of very bendy metal and plastic; the battery and battery cover were integral to the rigidity of the device and there was no internal frame which most phones have. But the problem was that the battery cover was a bendy, thin piece of fake leather, which isn't rigid at all, and there are a few reasons why you don't want the battery being one of the components that gives a phone its rigidity (as it may cause a highly exothermic and emotional event if the lithium cells are compromised). This meant the phone was basically flaccid when the battery and battery cover were taken off, and not very rigid at all even when it was assembled, causing the phone to bend very easily in my pockets (it wasn't long until the new screen broke again). Also, when I was repairing the phone I accidentally got a tiny fragment of screen glass in my left eye, which has left a permanent bloodstain on my iris, but this was my fault and my bloody left eye looks kind of cool. Anyway, no reputable phone maker will make a 5.5 inch smartphone that's that flaccid, so the first time I bought a Chinese brand phone wasn't the most positive experience ever, and further illustrates the issues you guys stated in the video. Though I would buy a Cubot phone again, since I love janky stuff.
Interesting, I have the opposite experience. Some years ago when smartphones were getting popular and cheap enough for everyone to have one I decided to get one. Samsung Galaxy S2 was the tits(my brother got one) back then but since I couldn't afford it I looked into Chinese phones. After a lot of research I got a $200 one(Jiayu G3) that had specs similar to the S2. To this day I'm still rocking it, the ips screen has developed burn spots, its android version(4.1) is obsolete, the phone is slow as hell for today's apps/web pages but the god damn thing refuses to die and it's still working, I find it most fascinating that the battery still manages to last. I refuse to get a new phone until this one dies and if doesn't soon I'll probably just smack it into the ground and then again buy a Chinese phone(this time most likely a Xiaomi one).
@@Kluneberg Yeah, the Chinese smartphone market has been evolving pretty damn fast these days, so I wouldn't really be against getting one now. I'm looking at the Umidigi Z2 Pro to replace my Xperia XZ soon
Hello guys, thanks for another great video. But I am not sure if your view on Chinese tech quality matches reality. Guess which phone is leading the current ranking of the best smartphones in the German tech magazine "chip" (published in 14 countries). It's the Mate 20 Pro by Huawei. I mean, if they can leave Apple and Samsung behind, they must be pretty damn good, right? Your fabulous HTC, by the way, is currently on rank 18. Of course there might be a lot of crap Chinese products out there, it's a massive country. But please don't forget, there are plenty of excellent tech companies in China.
My experience with Chinese customer service was actually really good. I was one of the first people in the Netherlands to get an invite for the OnePlus One, in the beginning the phone had loads of problems including a bootloop that I just couldn't seem to fix. OnePlus had one of their employees fixing the problem through VMWare on my pc and I never had the problem again. Didn't even have to send my phone to them, amazing stuff.
I bought HIFI Man headphones, a Chinese brand. They were praised for their sound quality, for the price $500. But in a period of less than a year the ear cups began to fall apart, plastic band broke, and the audio wires for the left side broke off. On the other hand my made in Ireland Sennheiser HD 600 have been going much longer without anything breaking on it.
Chinese Tech/Mobile Phones (Huawei, XiaoMi,Oneplus) are blowing up in popularity in the West, I also noticed that Chinese Parents (living in the West)are buying now Huawei Products instead of their annual new IPhones
@Sixgorillionshekelbergswindler Shlomo Was the case some years ago and maybe to an extent today too, but things are changing. I've seen like IT project managers with great salaries donning Huawei P-something (maybe also because their partnership with Leica, which is a brand some people especially millennials obsessed with the 70-80s love).
Speaking as some one who has had 2 oneplus phones (oneplus2 and oneplus5) they are good quality for a mid priced phone. The reason I decided to go for them is that they were on XDA and the members there said they were good phones. I would recommend that people do there homework before buying Chinese brands.
I talked with one lady here in Arkansas who was from a small village in China and she told me that the people there didn't like to buy Chinese made products due to their poor quality. I later saw on TV news about the poor quality of Chinese milk and why the mothers purchased foreign milk products to feed to their babies. I already knew that the products sold here was terrible unless the company had quality control people there to check the products prior to being shipped.
it is legal there to allow a product (melamine) to be included as protein, so watch the milk powders people, also they can make plastic rice, as that was sol in Las Vegas a few years ago
The addition of melamine to milk in China has to do with what the FDA calls the country's "vast and fragmented food-processing industry." Melamine is high in nitrogen and mimics protein in tests, so adding melamine can make it appear that there is more protein in milk than there actually is. Spiking milk is not new there, according to a Wall Street Journal report. Farmers in one Chinese province, according to the story, "say 'protein powder' of often-uncertain origin has been employed for years as a cheap way to help the milk of undernourished cows fool dairy companies' quality checks. When the big companies caught on, some additive makers switched to toxic melamine."@@bryanmoyna9715
@@notinservice3724 Very interesting, and sad, If the goverment did nothign about it they would kill the entire country way faster than any pollution made by their companies.
Everything chinese is fake, cheap and DISGUSTING!!! The chinese NEVER invented a single thing thru out their long history of shame; they only COPY AND STEAL inventions, ideas and culture from OTHER NATIONS.
@@fatloser6913, NO, THEY DID NOT!!! Paper was invented by a Vietnamese official serving in the chinese government as part of the tributary system. The chinese cannons were made by another Vietnamese official for the Ming emperors. Even the Great Forbidden City, the very symbol of the chinese people, was designed by An Nguyen, a Vietnamese architect and engineer. He also built many dams and cultural temples for china.
@@ToiYeuYAHWEH have you when to google and search up who invented paper? Google said paper was invented by a guy call Cai Lun from the han dynasty of china born in Guiyang, moderns day Hunan Province of china
I bought an inexpensive Chinese wall clock, and less than two years later it stopped working. Before it finally quit working, it kept losing time constantly. I went to a charity shop and bought a similar old U.S.-made wall clock (label on back said it was from a company in Mississippi, probably manufactured in the 1970s) for a few "bucks" (USD $). I simply put a battery in it and it started keeping correct time immediately - still works today. Comparing the two, I noticed that the plastic was thicker and stronger in the U.S.-made product. The Red China clock had thin, brittle plastic and flimsy cardboard hands that were painted black. It was poorly contructed and unrepairable.
Well, yeah, if they're expats, they're gonna go for food that makes them feel comfortable. But within China, the domestic "durable-goods" products are still considered less favorable than the established western brands, like Mercedes, etc.
@@llkk290 no serioulsy. i have no idea about mobil phones. if china isnt the biggest consumers of Xiaomi. who is? because at some point Xiaomi good sales was a threat to Samsung
@super boy Due to high prices, battery explosions and poor service, Samsung now has a market share of less than 1% in China. Huawei, Xiaomi, OPPO and VIVO have leading mobile phone sales.
Phones in china are like 60%Apple 40%Chinese brands We still use chinese phones but because there are so many brands, the market share for them is quite small
I work at a US company that makes electric guitar pickups. We have circuit boards made by our partners in China but we have discovered over time that they are NOT using the correct quality capacitor that we specify, so the voice of the pickups is a bit off from what we originally designed. To be nice, we try and suggest that their capacitor supplier is not selling them the right type. They know now we aware of the shenanigans.
I bought a xiaomi redmi 2 smartphone.Very good quality and price,dropped it plenty of times and no noticeable damage. I also bought 225/50/16" pace-pc10 tyres that are manufactured in China for my BMW E90 3series and they are also of good quality for the price so far. I think it depends on the products and the quality control and legacy of manufacturing depending on the products as not all chinese products in my experience are bad.
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Chinese product quality? Oh, I don't think it's that bad.
My wife was made in China, and she's still doing great!
It's too bad you guys can't comment on xinjiang, I wish you could make a vid on the horrible shit that's going on there but you'd prob get in a lot of trouble.
Are you guys not going back to PCC anytime soon?
I don't always drink beer. But when I do, I prefer HEBHLGPJYPYXGS
William Harrell Dilly, dilly!
William Harrell wish I had thought of that. Very funny. 👍
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If you say it backwards, it will go away ...
of course, it's Hash generated beer... :)
I was in Shanghai before and I bought these headphones from an english speaking seller. The next day it got broken and I went back to the same seller to return the item. She suddenly couldn't speak english anymore.
LOL when you try to return something in China it is looked upon as "bad luck" for the store so they do their best not to accept your return.
Dale Steadman aaaand that’s how you legalize scam.
Pichkalu Pappita it was a joke.
@@DaleSteadman "AAAh i see you have bad ruck, no worry, we have new headphone for you, Its onry 19.99"
HA HA HA ... Thats the funniest story I have ever heard but is also one of the saddest, youve been had
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As a Chinese here, all of these points you two make in this video is so true. You have really gained a very good knowledge about China. And I am so happy to know more about my country from foreigners' perspective.
This was an issue the Soviets had...brilliant engineering and science...but no quality control at all...🤷♂️
That’s being too kind to the USSR.
@S N Carona is CCP's Chernobyl.
The Soviets often stole their tech from the West, when the British tipped the US to a major spy network, the US rolled up the entire thing in a couple years. Their tech fell behind almost immediately.
Their Science was abysmal. Trofim Lysenko personally set Soviet progress back by decades. Hell China adopted some of his theories and that contributed to the Great Chinese Famine.
But soviet products for mass consumption were often amazing in quality. I grew up in Poland and in the apartament I grew up in we still have a functioning black and white TV my grandma bought in Russia in like 70s-80s. Did not break once. Same for washing machines. Sure, some stuff might have had a bad name, but some people always said that the western products weren't supposed to last that long as capitalism requires you to repurchase stuff from time to time while if a factory in a soviet country had a blueprint to make quality product they would make it quality, no need to cut corners if profit isn't your concern lmao.
@@aw2584 I assure you that in the West that B&W TV's from the era you are describing worked for a long time. But nobody wanted them since color TV's were available. The older simpler washing machines also worked for a very long time. But in the US at least new models came out and people threw out the durable, but inefficient, obsolete models.
The thing that people forget is the junk washing machines and TV's people are talking about were super cheap. It didn't matter if a TV broke after only 5 years, since it cost less than a half a weeks salary in the 80s (and were generally better than those available in the Eastern Block).
Tires! In the RV community, there is a huge debate about what is referred to as "China bombs." ST (special trailer) tires in the US are almost all made in China. They are a specialty tire that is only tested at 85% marked weight to 55mph and rated to 65mph. They are only to be used on trailers. Most new RV trailer manufactures use cheap ST tires for cost savings but defend that by saying they are specially designed for trailers. The tires then blow out when people run them down the highway at 70mph. Lots of people then replace them with LT (light truck) tires that are tested to a much higher standard and carry no use restriction. They usually come from the US, Taiwan or Thailand. But you have very vocal people that fall for the sales pitch and tell you not to do that. That ST tires are better because they are made for the special conditions of a trailer... Because the manufacturer says so. You commonly get called racist for telling people not buy china ST tires even though we are telling them to buy Taiwan or Thailand along with American LT tires. It's really hard to get people to understand the culture issue. They just want to call you a racist.
Thanks for sharing this
My friends dads camper tire did that once and totally shattered the wheel well of the camper
I think i read something a few years ago about a chines company poorly retreading old tiers to sell as new for profit.
China's good for ordering simple things like screw drivers and drill bits where it's not such an issue if they break but when safety is concerned you need to know the right checks are in place and get them from somewhere with higher standards like the UK, EU or US.
Last thing I would want is to be stuck on the side of the highway with a motorhome trying to replace the tire, sounds like a nightmare situation that I would pay any extra cost to avoid.
The "racist" card is a common go-to for disagreements even tangentially related to anyone who isn't just like you, it's a get out of jail free card to win any arguments in front of other people, as the social damage to you from being called something like that damages your credibility and likeability (and by proxy your argument regardless of its validity) so it more than makes up for them being utterly wrong ignoramuses and just taking someone else's beliefs as gospel.
Same for anything else we might commonly agree on being bad, like sexist, homophobic, even nazi in 2018 if you can believe it. Anything to damage your credibility to make themselves look good in comparison, because that's their only hope of doing so.
HEBHLGPJYPYXGS for when you can't afford Budweiser
Budweiser for when you can't afford beer
It's hilarious but actually very German, in terms of the word and grammar. 哈尔滨哈龙干啤酒饮品有限公司 Ha Er Bin Ha Long Gan Pi Jiu Yin Pin You Xian Gong Si. So abbreviation is HEBHLGPJYPYXGS
@@mashang2684158 how is that german!? You literally just said its an abbreviation of chinese.
@@milamber319 well I find German language likes stacking words together to form a new word and often use abbreviations because the words are too long to write. And this HEBHLGPJYPYXGS kind of reminds me of German long words. Example: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz, Cattle marking and beef labeling supervision duties delegation law, often abbreviates as RflEttÜAÜG
@@mashang2684158 Ok, yeah that's fair. you should have opened with that and said it very german in terms of its branding methods.
That railing fail cracked me up. 9:01
Looks fake, actually. Initially, the pole just cracks. The guy had to yank on it to make it break.
Railing had only concrete without expected steel reinforcement. And concrete seems very bad sort.
Nah, Beijing is too polluted for my taste.
Beach Sand - high salt content...not good quality and cheaper.
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My dad grew up in the Bay area of California , (San Jose to be precise), and when he started his first company a small little mom and pop diner opened up about a block from his shop. The prices on the food were pretty average, but the food his employees would bring back to the office was always top notch. So one day he decided to go down and get an omelette for breakfast. The shop was run by first gen Chinese people, a mom, dad, two sons, and a daughter. Well my dad put in his order and he watched the father in the kitchen start making the omelette, (a 3 egg omelette). My dad had a keen eye and spotted something interesting, every third egg the man would crack he would dump the yolk off into a separate bowl, while putting just the white in with two other whole eggs. So his "three" egg omelette was really a two and a half egg omelette. What did he do with the other yolk? simple, he added it to a single sunny side up egg to make two sunny side up eggs. I know Americans have probably done the same things, but at least they are sneaky about it, this guy cut corners in front of the whole diner, and no one called him on it, (well my dad called him on it, and from then on he never tried to cut corners on my dads order).
Well now days "scrambled eggs" for restaurants come in 1 gal cartons.
And this Chinese guys probably does the same to his own meal. After generations of food/resource shortage, the "cutting corner" thing is baked into their DNA. I know because I am Chinese too, born in the 80's with parents working for a city-sized state owned corporation I was so lucky - never had a taste of material shortage. But I surely heard of stories and later observed the effect of generations of poverty on people from older generations and less fortunate friends' families. Some might mistake this "cutting corner" with greed, but I genuinely believe in most cases it's just their natural behavior - always try to save in case something went wrong (like a famine or war hits). That probably also explains why the two and a half egg guy didn't even try to hide it, because he probably grew up watching his family cooking & saving eggs like that - if his family were lucky enough to get hold of any eggs at all (food like eggs were once rationed and hard to come by during the communist party f**k up period before they realized and opened up the country to the world).
Shotty Chinese meals. Hardly a surprise.
Chinese restaurant we would go to take out for years from suddenly started chopping their ribs in half....i walked the order back and demanded (in Mandarin) how do you sell this to people? The guy said "the foreigners like it like that" ....i walked out with another order for free bcuz i knew the shit he was pulling....and needless to say, i dont go there anymore.
I'm curious, were their family name Huie?
Did I mention my wife was Made in China?
No problems, even after 35 years!
The question is : is there anything "made in china" in your house ? Beside her
Hahahahahaha best
Ew
@@silverbach8083 The kids, possibly?
Yeah but the issues usually start around 40. Right after the warranty expires.
When I was a kid in Greece, there was a joke that Chinese electric products came with a warning label that said, "Do not plug in"
"To avoid the risk of fires, toss immediately in the trash. "
"Use device for test only"
😅
Like the laid back feel guys.
Two drunk guys: "laid back feel".
No wonder. 3 big bottles in 🍾🎉
Yeah, not sure why but Chinese beer is sold in 720ml bottles, @@beetleything1864. The cans which are available in convenience stores are comparable to North America (375ml ?) but the bottles are available everywhere though often the selection can be limited. But dirt cheap (720ml costs 3 yuan, about 45 cents and 1 yuan of that is deposit on the bottle!)
@@ZeldaZiplock What is the authorities' stance on public drunkenness?
I don't know how the cops handle violent drunks, but you frequently see people passed out on the sidewalk and it's ignored. Except for politics, where there is zero tolerance for any dissent, Chinese people have way more personal freedom than you can imagine. Plenty of things are technically illegal, but enforcement doesn't largely doesn't exist. Booze is a problem in China, but from my (quite limited) observations it would seem to be more groups binge drinking in bars, rather than alcoholics drinking in the street, although both exist. But the cops? Not unless you're causing trouble.
I virtually watched all serpentza and laowhy86 videos and they still manage to make content that has new stuff in it i haven't heard before :D
@@mety9042 Canadian Chinese here, I watched them once in a while for my china update lol.
me too, I'm like a weeb 4 China now
@@mety9042 Feel free to HEBHLGPJYPYXGS off then...
Quality content matters to them.
Chinese companies building poor quality apartments blocks in Australia. Problems with leaks when it rains especially basement car-park and overall bad engineering/design.
China did a piss-poor job in Myanmar with roads and buildings too. All to get oil exports.
@@mindmybusynass.m3602 Are you a genuine 50 cent army member? Your style of writing doesn't look like it belongs to the man in your photograph. Back to the re-education centre with you for English lessons!
Chinese Junk used to be a type of boat. Now it's everything. I can't trust 'em. You can't either.
I had some aluminum castings made there. The whole 2nd batch (2000 parts) was cast at too low a pressure. My ergonomic motorcycle handlebars looked nice on their surface, smooth and shiny; in cross section they looked like like swiss cheese. They put me out of business.
I used to be an Authorized Inspector in the boiler and pressure vessel industry. There was a rash of material failure (read that how you like, injuries occurred) because various Chinese parts (flanges, etc) were stamped with illegitimate markings. Lots of it was even stamped "made in USA".
@@rars0n a lot of fake things like phone chargers have CE markings on them but no safety circuits and can kill.
@@davesy6969 don't buy fakes then, simple.
@@Withnail1969 you say don't buy fakes like it's a simple matter but the chinese copy anything they can make money on, including pharmaceuticals.
@@davesy6969 so you use Ali Baba and deal only with high rated suppliers if you're ordering from China direct, it's not rocket science. you're just a racist, frankly. i buy Chinese and never have a problem unless i buy something stupidly cheap which yes, can fail fast. there are plenty of counterfeiters right here in Europe but you talk like its only China that fakes stuff.
Thats is so true my wife is Chinese she loves Japanese products
Foxconn is a Taiwanese company
Long time ago I had a CPU cooler, standard, came with the CPU. It had a low-profile Foxconn fan on it. That was in the era of turbine-like tuning obsession. The fan was virtually noiseless with good cooling power. I couldn't comprehend back then how a fan could be that silent.
My experience with China/Chinese people is somewhat bad. Mainly it's related to buying things from abroad,especially phone parts. I am trying to be independent from service centres,so I repair my phones by myself. I'm not a professional,but I keep improving my knowledge. Anyway, 2 years ago I bought a smartphone (Sony Xperia Z5 Premium) from Ebay. Everything looked okay on the pictures,stated as new. I bought it,it was very badly refubrished. He lied,it wasn't new. Gladly,I returned it back. Then,I decided to go on Aliexpress. I was exploring the site for weeks until I found a shop (Topco).Xperia XZ, new,the feedback was good,and the photos I saw were pretty much like the real deal. I bought it,used it for a month and I begun to understand that I was fooled again. The lcd screen was starting to get separated from the phone(it was also aftermarket), fingerprint not working etc... I only managed to get about 40$ back,even though the repair would cost me more. Another example: there is a shop on Ali based on selling parts. They disguise them as original,and well,they work almost as good. What I see now,other shops are copying them,placing almost the same pictures where it shows the "fake/original" parts, but they are trash. i can't find any original parts on Ebay/Aliexpress because everything is fake. Like,it feels like if you break your screen/battery etc you will be stuck with a fake one. Almost all the sellers lie to you so you would buy their knock-off.
Sorry I bored you, it was my experience which I decided to share with you. Also sorry for any mistakes, Russian is my main language
It's very usual back in China if you buy anything from Taobao (almost same website and same owner as Aliexpress). So most Chinese use T-mall or JD(cetificated big brand online shops), nobody woluld buy eletronics from Taobao. If you are in China, you can easily buy phone parts. There is electronics malls in every city, all kinds of computer or phone parts and gadgets th-cam.com/video/BL0OvdTqzBs/w-d-xo.html
@@Victor-hy9ux Yeah, even the Russian T-mall is known for having great stuff with warranty. But I didn't know JD was a good website for buying stuff. I would love to come to China and buy all the parts to repair all my smartphones for a cheap price lol
I bought a pizza cutter made in china, it lasted me a whole single use.
Probably also poisoned the pizza. ;-D
It probably smelled like a car tire too.
Did the pizza cut the pizza cutter instead?
@@BountyFlamor he's probably living "in soviet russia" that's why :)
That's my problem with can openers. I finally found an American company that is still manufacturing their own can opener. It's 100% made in the USA, all metal and costs like $10. I wish I had known that before I bought some Chinese plastic "kitchenaid" abortion for like $20.
I was watching China uncensored and seeing them talk about substitutions and gutter grease and things like that. I found myself in a store that takes remaindered items when big places go out of business, and I wanted to get some peanut sauce. There was a bottle of peanut sauce that looked pretty good but then I read "made in China."
I looked around until I found some that was made in Thailand. Mind you in both cases this was Chinese style peanut sauce...
Also Having learned a few years back how they grow tilapia fish-- that is one thing I will not eat.
How do they grow them
@@skefsongames , they eat their own feces and the tanks they are grown in are pumped full of antibiotics and other chemicals to mitigate against disease; it's also been reported that they are fed human feces in China. If you do a search you will find that tilapia consumption is discouraged by nutritionists, dietitians and doctors in the know. It's like eating an inflammation bomb.
"If one day I end up in America..." I guess you got your America car!
I'm not entirely sure, but I think Winston loves American cars. Can anyone confirm this?
Might be able to find him an AMC Pacer.
I don't know about that, but I heard that his wife is a doctor...
Donn Aldak - Winston does like American cars AND you may not know this, not sure if Winston mentioned it but his wife is a doctor. I do not know if Winston's doctor wife likes American cars though. ;-)
Not sure but his wife is a doctor. Did you also know that his wife is a doctor ???
I'm still not entirely clear on the matter. His wife is a doctor you say?
Me Personally, I buy American made (when I can afford it, because it’s expensive) because It helps keep people employed. When we opened up trade with a lot of developing nations (not just China) we couldn’t compete. Small towns largely had their economy based around 1 or 2 factories. Once those closed they were left for dead. The factory brought the vast majority of new money into the town, to be spent at the local shops which were mostly mom and pop shops that employed a couple of people each. Bigger things like the local diner and movie theater, which in small towns wasn’t usually a big chain, it was locally owned for the most part. They employed more then a few. Then when that new money stopped flowing in after the factories closed, the small shops couldn’t stay afloat and everyone either left or joined the new economy. The new economy is pretty much welfare, disability, and drugs to fill the void where a sense of purpose used to be. Because let’s be honest, everyone needs a sense of purpose. Once it’s gone it’s easy to play “poor me” and fall into drinking and drugs. Doctors peddling pain pills, weed growers, and meth cooks are the new factory. It’s a vicious cycle and it’s not even close to over. It’s the 3rd step of a nation. Struggle, prosper, fall. And don’t get me wrong that’s not the only thing that led to to the downfall of small town America. It’s definitely the biggest though. The second biggest Is cheaper airfare. Families used to pack up the car for a road trip because it was cheaper then flying. They’d have to stop at hotels and find things to keep the kids entertained along the way. These towns had weird quirky attractions to get them to go a few miles out of their way and spend the day. Stuff like the largest ball of yarn (real thing) even “south of the broader” off i95. South of the broader was a thriving business. It was an mini amusement park with an arcade, fair food, and all sorts of attractions. Families would stop for a day on their way to Mertel beach or Florida or wherever, spend money and spend the night. Now it’s an abandon fenced off run down eye soar on your drive down i95. So it’s about keeping the small town alive and making sure my kids have a decent country to live in.
Excellent commentary! Your observation is spot on. I'm an Iowa farmboy from the 50's & 60's. It was a wonderful life.
@@rexscheib4382 It was a time when you could get a job out of high school doing pretty much anything from grocer ton construction laborer and by the time you were 25 you'd be finichally stable enough to start a family or a business. Unfortuanlty I was born to late. I avoided college but me and my girlfriend can barly make rent and we both make more then doubble the minium wage. luckiily we''ve found loopholes for first time home buyers and will own something in the next 2 years or so then we'll be savving enough to maybe think about a family. Just can't do it the way you used to. Hopefully i'm wrong and its not the fall of the country. I'd love for my kids to be able to grow up in a 50's-60's style economy America. Unfortunalty I don't see it happening though. We may get close but never fully return. the big chains took over. alot of peope would prefer applebees to joes diner becasue it's fimilar, they know it's consistant quality, and they don't want to chance a bad meal. As for things like walmart. They don't want to spend the extra few bucks at the local shop. Sometimes it's becasue they don't have it, other times greed. Either way. The best we can hope for is a slight return, if not atleast jobs for middel america.
@@mikebrennan7045 50s-60s economy would be great again (somebody should make that a slogan haha), but what a lot of people forget about was what preceded that era. In the early 40s was WWII with lots of rationing and men going off to fight. Prior to that was the 30s with the great depression. My grandparents were part of the migration from the dust bowl to California. They didn't get to enjoy raising their kids in their hometown even way back then - although postwar California was pretty awesome. Postwar America benefited greatly because we were one of the only industrialized nations that wasn't blown to hell. There was a strong demand for our products and the labor market was relatively tight since there was no place to off shore to, automation didn't really exist, and immigration was controlled.
@@mikebrennan7045 Study the History of the Federal Reserve and you will see that Amerika has been given to the Bankers. The Federal Reserve's policy of creating inflation is criminal and they are stealing your money through Banking policies. Cyprus did this but they were open and took 10% of savings accounts. Our Banker's used to do it in secret but they are so bold now and Amerikan's are working so hard they do not take time to the control the government. An example of the Federal Reserve destroying the currency, I was in Japan in 1984 and the exchange rate was 250 yen per dollar, today 90. In 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created, the Dollar was worth a Dollar in Gold, today the Dollar is worth 3 cents and backed by nothing. The Federal Reserve is Unconstitutional as it is a private banking system paid for my the Amerikan citizens. The Federal Reserve will not allow Congress to do an audit. We have no proof that we still maintain gold reserves at Fort Knox. Amerika is drowning in debt and it is lowering the Amerika standing of living. Farms were repossessed in the thirties and the 80's and it is starting to happen again with crop prices too low. We will answer for all the debt someday. Live as poor as you are able and teach your children not to get caught up in buying junk and keeping up with the Jone's. You're correct, such a different time....
Well America really should make a certain amount of their own products, it's wise not only economically but strategically and for longevity. No country should be dependent on another country for its manufacturing. However, newer model can be developed which is better than the old one. It doesn't have to be a fall, many prosperous nations and empires had their ups and downs. An economy with a stronger base in economy would be good for America, as well as taking agriculture back from the mega corporate farms.
Can you guys do a video where you go around trying knock off companies like starbucks, McDonald’s, KFC’s and places like that. For some reason I have a fascination with imitation products and I’d like to see how similar they are. Thanks!
Great idea. On you tube, Gamer's Nexus and other vloggers on PC building bought new "high end" Walmart gaming PC's and tore them apart and tested them and found they were very shoddy (can't remember if they were from China, but half the problem was the assembly quality was bad, as well as the components). It became a game for the vloggers to find new screwups in Walmart tech products and benchmark the sales and customer service methods, etc of other builders also.
I think they would kicked out of China if this happened, as all business seems is partnered with the government,
Knock off Apple Stores are hilarious because the employees truly believe they are working for Apple.
You mean like Dumb Starbucks? I'm pretty sure they're no longer in business though.
Sunbucks! LoL.😉
Had the "pleasure" of reviewing a project for LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) import, designed and built by a Chinese company.
Everywhere corners were cut, and workmanship/quality were lacking and safety was "Very Poor".
1 year after the facility was commissioned, it's basically falling apart, suffering from all kinds of corrosion problems, galvanic, pitting, crevice, you name it.
A friend had desired a 4WD for many years, finally die to lower cost bought a Great Wall 4WD.
Sadly within 1st year his wife returning from visiting a parent, on the highway colidrd headon with a Toyota HiLux 4WD, on the wrong side of the road, drunk driver. The Toyota driver walked away with scraches. His Wife died on the way to hospital, as their Great Wall was crumpled to needing to cut her out of the wreckage. He skull was manggled, and she suffered extreme brain damage. The vehicle was highly dangerous as it had minimal crash worthiness. By the way the fitted seat belt also snapped!
not all of product in China is rubbish, but most of it is.
well yeah, some people don't understand generalisations lol, you say X group of people is associated with Y and you'll always get that one person who gets triggered because it doesn't apply to every single person in group X
Only my DJI drone is decent.
DJI is one of the best Chinese companies...they make good drones.
Yeah I hear they do Chinese Food real well. Probably one of the few, if any, things that actually originates from China.
Winston chose a fantastic product that was made in China, his Doctor wife.
but things made by hands are not so good in China
@@belakovdoj I imagine his wife's parents did a lot of using their hands (among other parts) in the process of making her. ;)
She's a doctor? I don't think Winston's mentioned that once.
@@Ohfishyfishyfish Yes, Winston's wife is a doctor.
@@08Gumo000 Is this going to be a thing like with Shapiro's wife?
I'm a mechanic by trade in the US. I specialize in the performance industry. Mostly drag racing. I have constant (in the 90th percentile) issues with Chinese parts, especially knock off parts. Knock off parts are a big problem in performance parts. A lot of times it's hard to decipher between real and fake on installation but performance wise they show their true nature, bad- really really bad. Even with Chinese made replacement parts that are legit, is trying most times. Parts do not last long and are of poor quality.
@Rudolf Adler te envita I'm not holding my breath anytime soon! LOL! I can remember when NAFTA came in to effect that China bought many of the 3 and 5 axis CNC's at auction from companies that shut down due to manufacturing being brought to China. This is when their products took a large leap in quality, also due to many Americans that previously ran these machines going over there and teaching them how to use them efficiently. I'm not saying China is not able to figure it out but it seems as though they choose the easier route of copying how others do things. One thing they will almost always have is the ability to manufacture large quantities for cheap prices and this gives the appearance of being a world leader. As the old saying goes - Cheap and Fast will not be Good, Fast and Good will not be Cheap! Japan is an entirely different story though. I used to, and still do, look for tools made in Japan. They are/were great quality. Even the tools here now that are made in China are vastly subpar to the US's/Sweden's/Germany's/Japan's/etc..
Who the fuck uses Chinese "performance" parts besides Puerto Ricans and dumb youtuber kids putting Chinese Ebay turbos on $500 Honda garbage lol.
I've been involved in racing of many sorts, NHRA, NASCAR etc. SEMA has been doing a good job these last few years calling out the garbage inferior (and dangerous!) racing parts that are falsely SFI spec'd. Cheap morons put this junk on street cars, the part fails (like a strut or suspension piece) and either get killed or seriously injured in an accident. Hell, even the POS AN fitting/hose market parts leak and fail all the damn time. Just what you need, a fuel leak at 80+ mph causing a fire.
Completely true. And that's not even mentioning tools... They can't even get a combo wrench right... Even the metal they make them out of is crap.
James is a true jingoistic soap boxer... Haha keep up the good work sir.
I don't have any connections to China and I'm not into motorcycles, but somehow I love this channel all the same. The unfamiliar world of China and the things you two guys have gone through to get here fascinate me, and the clean presentation of all your videos is the icing on the cake. Thank you for bringing China to we who would know shit all otherwise... *time to subscribe*
This was a particularly good video, thanks. I spent some time in Hong Kong (almost moved there to deal with the factories in mainland) and was astounded by the differences in general thinking. The company I worked was a great example of those infamous "shortcuts" of which you speak. What a mind bending experience that was (but decided in the end not to work for them). That said, I came close....very, very close...
Vizio TVs used to be made in Japan. Costco wanted a bunch of them at a certain low price point but Vizio couldn't make them at that low price. So Vizio farmed it out to a company in China to build them and now they went from great customer reviews to horrible customer reviews. I will never buy another Vizio TV. Total Crap.
My father owns a Vizio TV. Based on his.. uh.. "review" (mostly cursing), I would have to agree with your assessment. It's nice to have an explanation for why it became this way though.
Something the people don't realize is that in the 60s and part of the 70s it was the Japanese products that were "cheap", then Korean and Taiwan in the 80s and finally Chinese.
Chinese products are still cheap. I don't think the corner cutting and corrupt culture in China will enable them to rise above it.
@@andrewashkettle Iphones are produced in China. Huawei phones are quite good (I have one)
The problem in this moment is not the ability of China of doing good products for exporting but the lack of brands and proprietary tech, something that won't last as a problem too long.
The internal market is a completely different thing, they will keep doing crap quality for a while. People inside china are used to have crappy cheap quality.
Their GDP per capita is yet the 71 below Brazil or Mexico.
Punto Devista True, iPhones are assembled in China but that doesn’t really mean much. They’re not Chinese products. Huawei is good but they’ve already tried to cut corners on hardware several times to my disappointment as it was and still is my favourite Chinese brand. Also, the government clearly keeps involving themselves which hurts the trustworthiness of the brand.
Why do you think the lack of IP won’t be a problem for China for long?
I truly think it’s a cultural and political problem that can’t be solved.
@@andrewashkettle You dismiss Huawei as brand but you simply need to see the curve of how is capturing the market and ask to yourself why this curve is going to stop and what will be the consequence if it continue.
There is absolutely no sign that is going to stop. It is interesting that USA is throwing a fierce attack against this firm, but it was already partially blocked before and the European and Asian markets will remain.
I personally have a Huawei and I would recommend it over Samsung, starting with the battery live, that for me is a key issue. Even understanding this is a personal opinion again look how they are increasing quickly the quality in each new mode and throwing a lot of muscle.
@@andrewashkettle they are cheap but the quality on the tech goods I've bought recently is spot on.
In my childhood I remember toys starting to bear ‘Made in Taiwan’ on them. Nothing ever had Made in China on it.
I still have some kitchen utensils made in Taiwan, and I just refurbish and re-use again.
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I find the same is true from many Indian people as well -- basic/consistent quality is a foreign concept.
NOTE: I neither say _every_ Indian person, nor that it's _exclusive_ to just people of India.
Consumer protection in India is tied to poor public servants which are underpaid and also politically appointed (featherbedding) . They avoid the products they regulate.
Most customers today (but not necessarily consumers) have grown up during pre liberalisation days of India when barely functioning was the best one could get, if one could get it at all. When I was a kid in 90's there was a car called 118NE, which I suspect was a copy of Lada. That car was actually considered a luxury car back then. Hence older generations have the mentality that if it works, its alright. Also higher quality means higher cost. Interest rates are high in India and wage rates have not kept up with prices. So credit to buy costlier things is not there in lot of cases. Also the one of the points in the video is also valid in India as well. If people have money they will prefer to buy a prestigous foreign brand even if there was a Indian product available. So Indian companies do not have incentives to care about quality assurance.
I'm not a nationalist but Indian brands are really good at quality and people do love them. Mahendra and mahendra, hero motocorp, bajaj moters, royal Enfield, eicher moters are really good moter brands. TATA cars are not really good but they are really trying hard to be good. Let's talk about FMCG brands Parle, Dabur, Emami, Marico, wipro consumers, Jyothi laboratory, MDH, ITC, godrej, patanjali, Adani, Amul, Mother Dairy, Haldiram, Bikanerwala, CCD, Naturals, Kingfisher beer, United Spirits, UBG, VLCC and so on list is long.. Indian clothing brands: Raymonds, Loui Philippe, Van Heusen, Allen Solly, Peter England, Park Avenue, Monte Carlo, relaxo, liberty, Woodland, Oxemberg, Provogue, Indian Terrain, elle 18, lakme, American Swan, flying machine, spyker, Ritu Kumar, biba, fabindia, W for woman, Soch, pantaloons, goldsook, Titan, vimal, OCM, Bombay Dying, sitaram's , mayur, paragon, lakhani, khadim's, mochi, list is too long. Infrastructure: DLF, L&T, GVK, Lanco, GMR, Jaypee, and so on... Tell me which indian brands are not trustable? Indian brands are truly world-class despite indian gdp is just 20% of china's.. imagine the brand power of indian products if Indian gdp is 5 times what it is now.
Forget about large sector brands, even cycle brands are really good quality: hero cycles, Atlas, Avon, Hercules, La Soverein, BSA Ladybird, Firefox Cycles, Montra, mach city cycles etc..
Tyre brands are unbeatable like MRF, Apollo, JK, CEAT..
I'm tried of this.. Chinese gdp is really big but they aren't even close to match quality of indian brands. Whatever sector it is. Fast growth doesn't always mean, quality growth.
04:10 That's the Chinese flag, the flag of the REAL China 🇹🇼.
Your time stamp is like three seconds late.
Living in Vietnam, ive used my fair share of chinese products. and really, the majority of them have broken in some way pretty fast. Bought a fan and the plug part broke fairly easy when i tugged on it. Also, many people buying chinese cosmetics have been having thier faces melt off. So yea, buying from china is risky.
that's because you are poor,the quality of the cheap product is always bad, but you intend to try, on the other side,it means you want earn too much without a equal payment
@@alangabriel5361 You make a mistake in assuming cheap things are for the poor, there is a saying "too poor to buy cheap things", a poor person wouldn't buy a cheap piece of shit they know will break quickly and need replacing. The same reason why no one in China wants a Chinese manufactured car.
Great topic. Regarding poor quality in Chinese products, 50% of it is their willingness to substitute shoddy components after initial reviews are in. Just read comments on the US Amazon website about reviews on Chinese products. There are initial good reviews, then people start getting low quality substitutions or counterfeits such as Kingston SD memory cards. Another issue is terrible documentation or apps with bad translations. A perfect example is the Insta360 line of Chinese made 360 degree cameras. They had terrible documentation and I actually set mine aside for 4 months because I couldn't figure out the user interface or klunky software. AND, they thought a 3 minute goofy video of millenials jumping around and smiling was adequate to learn the product. I am beginning to think that chinese firms are too cheap and unsophisticated to ensure they have good technical writers. In comparison, buy a Japanese product like cameras, ettc and they have excellent, detailed manuals. Keep in mind the way that Japan became such a manufacturing powerhouse was they adopted US quality control standards when rebuilding Japan after WWII. Look up Edgar Deming who taught them quality control. China needs such a value and standard. President Trump keeps mentioning the shoddy steel that China would send us as one reason to implement tariffs to support re-implementation of US quality steel. Cheers.
I would say it's not just the fact that they took after a lot of US practices that makes Japanese products great - I would say that a BIG contributing factor, perhaps bigger actually, is their ancient culture - a culture that puts almost inhuman weight to duty, towards doing MORE, far, far more, than what's necessary, for your face, your honour, your clan. A society with a workers morale so high that a single mistake is self-punished by slicing yourself up with a sword does leaves its mark on a people.
It's not just China. I used to live in Japan and the post purchase support doesn't exist. Yes, with Japanese products you get better quality, proper manuals, etc, but if something breaks down and you need support, firget it, they will blame it on you. So basically, when it comes to Asians, they only care to sell it, once it's gone it's gone. Customer loyalty is just too abstract concept.
Everything you said is true. Not only am I a technical writer, I've also read a book about Deming's key influence on Japanese manufacturing.
@@PostAtariGeneration I don't know but thought Japanese companies had good support, I use to work for a Kubota(Japanese tractor/lawn/light heavy equipment maker) dealer in the early 00's with my late father, and their Japanese support staff was 2nd to none even to the point of the company flying out support staff from Japan at great expense to test prototypes, and sort out issues we had with new products.
Also Nintendo in Japan as well as Sony have a history of giving very long support for their gaming products with Nintendo repairing things like Famicom Disk System Units 20 years after their release date, and Sony just this year ending technical support for the PS2 in Japan. Maybe those companies are not the norm, but damn better than even some American, or European companies who won't even sell you parts to fix something yourself when they refuse to do as such *cough* Apple *cough*, and I'm saying this as a red blood partly Creek Indian Native American who was born on the 4th of July(no joke), that it's sad some foreign companies are better than American companies, and I could keep going on like Toyota who we know is Japanese, and cares more about the American worker, then even American brands like Chevy who had had their worker revolt more than once over the past few decades. Again sad, but true.
China has a cultural block in nderstanding this subject. if you study history you will see this had been part of Chinese culture for at least 2000 years. If you look at the catapults and trebuchets, boats, anything other than buildings meant to last a long time, construction was always fast and cheap and shoddy. When the English went to war against China they couldn't believe how easily their boats were obliterated. Chinese have lived by the idea a product has to last just long enough to get by for a very long time. The only difference would be things like palaces and forts. Sometimes they made excellent metal objects but it wasn't common.
iPhone is mostly assembled in China while many components come from Japan, Korea, and so on. China has a very small part of manufacturing iPhone.
Here's a perfect example. I've had my Honda Element since 2003 and a year ago I finally needed to replace the brakes. They had lasted slightly over 90,000 miles. Obviously they were original Honda calipers and rotors because they came with the car. So I went to my mechanic who I've been with for years to get new brakes. He gave me a quote for $710 for all four wheels. Why? because the genuine Honda pads and rotors came to about $600. So I went on Amazon and bought 'aftermarket' (read Chinese) components for a third of the price and fitted them myself. I was so pleased with myself saving all that money! One year later I've got bare metal from the pads scraping on the rotors. I had done less than 11,000 miles and they were shot. Gerry is going to bag on me mercilessly for my dumbassery and I'm going back to genuine Japanese Honda parts from now on.
However in saying that my Huawei Honor 7x phone has been flawless for the past year. It's a really great phone.
the phone is worthy of 007, the lady is locked up in her house on ankle monitor west of where I live
No-one makes phones that last since Nokia 15+ years ago...
I think the phones are the exception when it comes to Chinese products. I have a Huawei phone that's lasted me 3 years, runs smoothly, it hasn't slowed down like an apple phone would've.. also has more features and can replace the memory just by buying a new SD card. They have a lot of money, quality and technology in their phone companies.
Would never go near a Chinese car or buy any vehicle from there though
My Chinese son in law wanted American milk powder, American baby cups, etc. because he doesn't trust local products. "We ship for U" stores in Chinatown, NYC sell American milk powder so Chinese people can ship it home to family in China easily.
yea, Australian supermarkets get their shelves cleared of milk powder and there was even a shortage for local people. Chinese living in Australia would buy as many tins as they can, to sell on the Chinese market for 4 times the price. They advertise on Chinese websites and make a lot of money. Its happening everywhere.
@Insert Name Here Time we banned that.
@@RogerBarraud Nah, don't ban it, this actually enriches your country(external money coming in, see: improved trade balance), I can see the logic in limiting volume in supermarkets so it doesn't run out for domestic use though.
+William Dudley
I remember some years ago regularly seeing chinese women here in germany buying milk powder and such stuff in bulk. It posed such a problem that the number of units sold to one person was limited to three by the shops. Of course, some then tried different ways, by trying to buy it on seperate occasions, some hours apart.
Yeah I saw plenty of "milk powder delivery service" written in Mandarin in places like Flushing.
I've been to Taipei many times back in the 70's and remember that Taiwan beer in those huge green bottles was very high in alcohol and tasted great. Me, and not many of my friends couldn't drink more than one or two without getting just a little drunk, but who cares... they are great ! And it looks like you guys are really getting sh..- faced, and that's a good thing.
That fake beer was hilarious looking. XD
It's Czech.
Taiwan also has some amazing small engine manufacturers, like chainsaw parts or mower parts top modify big brand equipment
The railing BROKE ME UP 😂
sancoffsr That poor guy’s leather jacket was also made in China
i have masive experience with chineese products .
i stay away from them as far as possible :)
you could have chosen the good one
Chinese products sold in China are total crap.
How is that even possible? 99% of everything here is made in China. You're making your own clothes and shoes and stuff?
@@cerverg pretty much everything!!!!....😐😎....
You clearly did not watch the video. Yes, made in China, but the quality control is western managed. We only use them for cheap labor.
I think the Gutter Oil was the worst
WAS.??? IS
USA makes much better gutter oil.
@@Dowlphin
Good luck finding gutter oil here, because unlike China, restaurant inspectors actually enforce regulations.
@@Dowlphin I thought Fat Tony owned the Gutter oil business around here...
Well, OK, I agree that the USA cares a lot about oil. Especially that it's rich in minerals.
Doesn't sound like Winston has been watching videos by Louis Rossmann...
Apple's issues are 80 percent Elite Opportunism, 15 percent design flaws, and 5 percent manufacturing defect.
Ironically, Apple is Culturally Marxist.
@@MarkH10, I've seen a convincing argument that Jobs' bio is fake. According to what I read, his father was military intelligence and Apple is just an intelligence front. That's their real purpose. To change society in a managed fashion, or at least steer it in a desired direction. Manufacturing computers is just one way to accomplish that. Making media, first print and then video easy to create, sell and consume is another. This is why Apple never really has been about computer science or computer engineering, and for me, as an amateur computer scientist, this has been a big disappointment.
I bought a Joying (Chinese) android car stereo head unit and loved it. I was impressed with the quality, customer service, and obviously, the price, which was half of that of western brands. Joying and Pumpkin are the two main Chinese brands that I came across when I was looking. My wife liked mine, and bought a generic cheaper Chinese stereo for her car and has had countless problems. Goes to show...
At least half (if not more) of what you say about domestically produced and sold Chinese products is true. When I lived there, it became obvious that there were certain products that were in the "just good enough" category. This included clothing, toiletries, and most home furnishings. However, there were some noticeable exceptions. Domestically produced and sold Chinese TVs were, overall, far better than those in the U.S.. More specifically, they gave you much more for your money. Same for most kitchenware, such as cookware, knives, etc.. Certain domestic Chinese furniture was as good or better than anything made in the West. I also came across some Chinese power tools that were surprisingly rugged. Then, there are also some whole categories of product that were not readily available in the West (at the time) and fairly high-quality. These included induction cooking equipment, compact refrigerators, and compact washing machines. So, on balance I agree with you guys. But, there is a big caveat: This is just a snapshot in time, that is taken at a relatively early stage in this country's industrial and middle class development.
The fact is that most developed countries have followed this same path in their industrial growth. The West is no exception. The lack of availability and affordability has historically fueled high-priced imports and low-priced knock-offs. In mid-18th century England, Wedgwood china came into existence largely due to the limited supply and extremely high price of Asian equivalents. During the same period, oleomargarine (margarine) became popular in Europe and America due to scarcity and price of fresh domestic dairy. Same story for saccharin, plastics, fake leather, Sears houses, the Model T, the Volkswagen, Spam, retread tires, etc, etc, etc. Even today, the principle applies. In just the past few months, the world supplies of real vanilla have been scarce and the cost has shot up. In response, the sales of imitation vanilla extract have skyrocketed. The bottom line is that people will buy the knock-off if its all they can afford, but when they have the money and the access to the product, they want the real thing.
This channel is very XMTDUTOXSDTDY
lol
Disagree... it's like totally SEEGRGEEHXYBMOOYASXZ.
Taiwan Draft us excellent. Remember when it comes to quality in Taiwan there are food scandals, but generally the preparation and produce quality is heavily influenced by 50 years of Japanese colonial rule. Keep up the good work boys.
We've had Xiaomi phones without any problems from China itself, they're getting quite popular now in the UK, they're opening a shop in London early next month, also the Three phone network are about to sell them as well. Will be interesting what they sell and how much.
i think chinese phone are more popular then apple phone in china now
Need to keep in mind that a chinese phone for the UK is a lot different than one made for china itself. Similar to the example Winston used with the drone.
@@iPervy Do you think this is the case with the one I bought, or do you mean the ones that will be available in the UK?
@@brierwood11 The phone will be made and marketed for foreign consumers so it won't be the same as buying it in mainland china.
You guy are the best. All you say are all 100% correct. Please continue what you are doing. Very informative.
lol I literally laughed out loud, cant remember last time it happened. That Chinese man walking taking the cement rail with him into the chanel... Time to subscribe, this might be the fith video I´ve seen from you two, so I guess it is about time.
"Be Chinese Buy Chinese" ... One word 'Escalators' #NoThanksChina
People don't like it when things escalate quickly.
"They like to cut corners" LOL
This is a very interesting informative channel, well done guys
This is a shocking point of view. In fact, Huawei has beaten Samsung and Apple in China. Chinese people are more and more interested in Chinese branded goods.
@@llkk290, other than the ¥0.50 army?
When I arrived in HK, one thing that surprised me was that the local Chinese were not shy about their voicing their preference for Japanese products. It was almost embarrassing to listen to. But as time went by, I understood clearly.
In Vietnam the people don't like stuff shipped from China to Vietnam, but will get Chinese made products that were shipped to developed countries. There is an open belief that China sends their good stuff to developed countries and their bad stuff to SE Asian countries.
Okay so, IMMEDIATELY after you said "if you by a chinese car it's only because you're poor" an add came on for a chinese car entirely in chinese. So... that happened
Remember how you always thought you were middle class? Think again.
9:03 Literally started laughing like Crazy. Good Editing there.
No steel reinforcement. See the pipe version of the same crap th-cam.com/video/g2tk7WNcgxk/w-d-xo.html
@@KrotowX good one. Thx
Winston is now making money by lying. Fallen.
@@llkk290 I agree that Google translation for Chinese is not mature enough yet.
thx for pointing that out,
Henry Ford 1941 hemp car. That revolution
Ha ha you guys crack me up 😂 no matter where the journey brings you: look back on all your amazing adventures. You guys are really the best source on Chinese news and documentary on this globe.
I cant frikin stop watching you two....
Its maybe a bit similar here in Slovakia atleast in the past right after communism fell. I guess today its better, i am sure china will also change with time.
true
With time, welp ... With ages I think.
Is it really, now ? I was born in 1990 in the czech part of Czechoslovakia so I wouldn't know ...
Bunch of people watching from CZ and SK!
One thing to consider is that we didn't start from zero after the fall of commies. We've allways had top notch engineering. For example Porsche started as Tatra knock-off (and not very good one) These days, Skoda ranks close to top on reliability charts (some say it is because the high end stuff is more complicated and breaks more..). Not sure how it's chinese branch is doing tbh, but i read they sell a lot of cars there..
@@Staromil Yes but Škoda is now so German, it's basically just re-branded VW ... If you ever worked there, you would know ...
"You should do this X, Y, Z"
That's sounds exactly how I imagine three axis IMU is calibrated.
To be fair, HEBHLGPJYPYXGS could have come from Wales.
O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau!
These instant replays cracked me up. I think you guys did the editing while drunk :)
Great editing guys! Great video.
ADVChina Communism has surprisingly little to do with it. Centuries ago in the western world - especially western Europe, the guild system was well established with the main aims as fostering professionalism in the manufacturing industries, and assuring product quality, and this passed into the western collective psyche. China never went through that, besides, manufacturing and commerce were considered to be the domains of the lower classes and should be frowned upon.
As a bit of a hobby I study the history of industries in China in the 20th century, when the Imperial era was on its last leg in the first decade, and then civil war and WWII did not help with industries. That said, many entrepreneurs did try to develop local industries as a way to combat the influx of imported goods. While some put efforts into making competent products, most just did it in shoddy ways; that did not help with the reputation of Chinese products even among the locals who would rather pay more for dependable imports.
The current situation in mainland China is a continuation of this mentality both in the supply and demand sides. Taiwan is an exception as the US had a strong influence after WWII, much like in Japan where they realized that making shoddy products was not a sustainable business model. Witness the rise of Japanese goods like cars, cameras, etc to the forefront and that was what Japan learned from the Americans, and Taiwan did much the same as well, albeit on a smaller scale.
I witness the rise in Chinese phone quality all the time, like the recent Huawei stuff sold in Europe or those electric scooters made by Xiaomi which pretty much any scooter company uses (and phones). I think 10 more years and things will change, I don't know if they will change for products sold in mainland, but products meant for markets outside China... Chinese companies are more and more aware that there needs to be top notch quality control.
Would love to chat to you :)
@MagischesLicht The Americans had great influences in all three countries after WWII and established a new mentality there.
@MagischesLicht The PRC was established four years after WWII ended. What the Americans established in Japan, S Korea and Taiwan was the mentality of product quality. For example, in the photographic industry in Japan, the quality of pre-war products were generally abysmal with very few exceptions. After the war, with the new quality-focussed mentality in place, less-good products died away very quickly and it took a little less than a decade for Japanese photographic goods to be considered at least on par with the best from anywhere in the world; the same also applied to electrical/electronics, automotive, etc.
@MagischesLicht America also taught the Soviet Union the techniques of mass production, quality control, and the ways to design products to that end. Timex's methodology was applied not only to the Soviet watchmaking industries, but also the arms industries, the T-34 was a prime example most people are familiar with. So it's not purely capitalism vs communism, or free economy vs planned economy; it's a bit more complicated than that.
4:50 That beer has the first letter of each the Chinese character's pinying write on the bottle. So its not nonsense.
It's nonsense, that isn't a word
if u look at the first letter each Chinese character's pinying, that's wats said on the bottle. I mean its jus a rookie mistake.
@@zizhou2281 they are just illiterate
@@ADVChina FYI, 哈尔滨哈龙干啤酒饮品有限公司 Ha Er Bin Ha Long Gan Pi Jiu Yin Pin You Xian Gong Si. So HEBHLGPJYPYXGS
@@ADVChina
They didn't say that it's a word, they said that's it's an acronym.
In USA, we look for products MADE IN JAPAN, because they seem to last forever (well, maybe not Nissan)
Nissan went downhill after being merged with the French company Renault. But to be fair, they were going bankrupt.
@@Bristecom They HAD to do that deal otherwise they'd have collapsed within weeks. But yes, the quality there has fallen somewhat too.
But as Freddy Mercury said ''who wants a product to live forever?"
I used to have a Micra made on 2004, seems very solid, never had any major repair until I sod it on 2010.
You guys are the best !!!
So glad to see your channel grow
Good discussion. I have been living in the Philippines from the USA for a few years and I am convinced many of the Chinese products, like my Asus phone, are not the same quality as the same model in the USA.
You guys are a nice couple.
@billy vandory yes, they even adopted a 63 years young kid.
I never buy Chinese sphinxes.
Nice editing here
Thanks guys really like your vids......so honest and eye opening......good to see something real.....lve given a thumbs up and subscribed......keep up the good work
Excellent video, guys!!
Very interesting insights!!
Back in 2014, I was in Japan working for a year before I went to university, and my Xperia Z1 phone broke. So I tried my luck with a Chinese phone brand called Cubot, because it was cheap and had decent specs for the money (I bought the phone off either eBay or aliexpress, can't remember which). I was generally happy with the phone, and it was decent. One day when I took my phone out of my pocket, I noticed the screen glass had broken, so I ordered a replacement screen. When the new screen arrived from china, and I set about replacing the screen, I noticed that why the screen had shattered in my pockets. All the components (e.g mainboard, battery, cameras) were mounted on the screen, and the screen back was made of very bendy metal and plastic; the battery and battery cover were integral to the rigidity of the device and there was no internal frame which most phones have. But the problem was that the battery cover was a bendy, thin piece of fake leather, which isn't rigid at all, and there are a few reasons why you don't want the battery being one of the components that gives a phone its rigidity (as it may cause a highly exothermic and emotional event if the lithium cells are compromised). This meant the phone was basically flaccid when the battery and battery cover were taken off, and not very rigid at all even when it was assembled, causing the phone to bend very easily in my pockets (it wasn't long until the new screen broke again). Also, when I was repairing the phone I accidentally got a tiny fragment of screen glass in my left eye, which has left a permanent bloodstain on my iris, but this was my fault and my bloody left eye looks kind of cool. Anyway, no reputable phone maker will make a 5.5 inch smartphone that's that flaccid, so the first time I bought a Chinese brand phone wasn't the most positive experience ever, and further illustrates the issues you guys stated in the video. Though I would buy a Cubot phone again, since I love janky stuff.
Interesting, I have the opposite experience. Some years ago when smartphones were getting popular and cheap enough for everyone to have one I decided to get one. Samsung Galaxy S2 was the tits(my brother got one) back then but since I couldn't afford it I looked into Chinese phones. After a lot of research I got a $200 one(Jiayu G3) that had specs similar to the S2. To this day I'm still rocking it, the ips screen has developed burn spots, its android version(4.1) is obsolete, the phone is slow as hell for today's apps/web pages but the god damn thing refuses to die and it's still working, I find it most fascinating that the battery still manages to last. I refuse to get a new phone until this one dies and if doesn't soon I'll probably just smack it into the ground and then again buy a Chinese phone(this time most likely a Xiaomi one).
@ I don't know if they started reinforcing their phones, so you might be just fine. But I'd be careful anyway.
@@Kluneberg Yeah, the Chinese smartphone market has been evolving pretty damn fast these days, so I wouldn't really be against getting one now. I'm looking at the Umidigi Z2 Pro to replace my Xperia XZ soon
Wow, you are Shakespeare of Japan, writing such a long novel
@@zty3529 What, have you never seen a paragraph before
Hello guys, thanks for another great video. But I am not sure if your view on Chinese tech quality matches reality. Guess which phone is leading the current ranking of the best smartphones in the German tech magazine "chip" (published in 14 countries). It's the Mate 20 Pro by Huawei. I mean, if they can leave Apple and Samsung behind, they must be pretty damn good, right? Your fabulous HTC, by the way, is currently on rank 18. Of course there might be a lot of crap Chinese products out there, it's a massive country. But please don't forget, there are plenty of excellent tech companies in China.
Raikje Lemon these are products designed for foreign markets. They talk about it in the video, chinese companies have different standards for export.
Last time I visit my dad in Taiwan, we enjoy a Taiwan beer
My experience with Chinese customer service was actually really good. I was one of the first people in the Netherlands to get an invite for the OnePlus One, in the beginning the phone had loads of problems including a bootloop that I just couldn't seem to fix. OnePlus had one of their employees fixing the problem through VMWare on my pc and I never had the problem again. Didn't even have to send my phone to them, amazing stuff.
I bought HIFI Man headphones, a Chinese brand.
They were praised for their sound quality, for the price $500. But in a period of less than a year the ear cups began to fall apart, plastic band broke, and the audio wires for the left side broke off.
On the other hand my made in Ireland Sennheiser HD 600 have been going much longer without anything breaking on it.
I’m assuming C-milk has had much less food poisoning while in Taiwan?
Chinese Tech/Mobile Phones (Huawei, XiaoMi,Oneplus) are blowing up in popularity in the West, I also noticed that Chinese Parents (living in the West)are buying now Huawei Products instead of their annual new IPhones
@Sixgorillionshekelbergswindler Shlomo Was the case some years ago and maybe to an extent today too, but things are changing. I've seen like IT project managers with great salaries donning Huawei P-something (maybe also because their partnership with Leica, which is a brand some people especially millennials obsessed with the 70-80s love).
Never heard of that brand once in America
@@jenniferlyda484 Leica? It's old German optics company, they used to make old photo cameras that hipsters like.
Speaking as some one who has had 2 oneplus phones (oneplus2 and oneplus5) they are good quality for a mid priced phone. The reason I decided to go for them is that they were on XDA and the members there said they were good phones. I would recommend that people do there homework before buying Chinese brands.
It's so odd being here early
congrats!
"2 Days ago"
@@thesovietunion2138 members get to view it on Friday
@@julieb6346 Members? TH-cam is not what is used to be.
Fascinating vid guys thanks a lot for doing what you do~!
I talked with one lady here in Arkansas who was from a small village in China and she told me that the people there didn't like to buy Chinese made products due to their poor quality. I later saw on TV news about the poor quality of Chinese milk and why the mothers purchased foreign milk products to feed to their babies. I already knew that the products sold here was terrible unless the company had quality control people there to check the products prior to being shipped.
What’s up with the
Corny instant replay 😂😂😂😂
Dude, that was part of the joke that they wanted the Malaysian beer company to pay them for endorsing their product. I thought it was funny
Same here Jeb. Got a kick out of the blatant "pay us $$$" joke.
Not just lower quality ingredients but fake food as well.
it is legal there to allow a product (melamine) to be included as protein, so watch the milk powders people, also they can make plastic rice, as that was sol in Las Vegas a few years ago
@@notinservice3724 gimme the source where you get that it is legal to sell false food in China.
The addition of melamine to milk in China has to do with what the FDA calls the country's "vast and fragmented food-processing industry." Melamine is high in nitrogen and mimics protein in tests, so adding melamine can make it appear that there is more protein in milk than there actually is. Spiking milk is not new there, according to a Wall Street Journal report. Farmers in one Chinese province, according to the story, "say 'protein powder' of often-uncertain origin has been employed for years as a cheap way to help the milk of undernourished cows fool dairy companies' quality checks. When the big companies caught on, some additive makers switched to toxic melamine."@@bryanmoyna9715
@@notinservice3724 Very interesting, and sad, If the goverment did nothign about it they would kill the entire country way faster than any pollution made by their companies.
Knockoff Heineken label on the beer bottles.
Everything chinese is fake, cheap and DISGUSTING!!! The chinese NEVER invented a single thing thru out their long history of shame; they only COPY AND STEAL inventions, ideas and culture from OTHER NATIONS.
@the devil , I highly doubt that. They probably either STOLE OR COPIED that from another country. You can't trust chinese for anything they say.
@@ToiYeuYAHWEH they also invented paper and the first gun "fire lance"
@@fatloser6913, NO, THEY DID NOT!!! Paper was invented by a Vietnamese official serving in the chinese government as part of the tributary system. The chinese cannons were made by another Vietnamese official for the Ming emperors. Even the Great Forbidden City, the very symbol of the chinese people, was designed by An Nguyen, a Vietnamese architect and engineer. He also built many dams and cultural temples for china.
@@ToiYeuYAHWEH have you when to google and search up who invented paper? Google said paper was invented by a guy call Cai Lun from the han dynasty of china born in Guiyang, moderns day Hunan Province of china
I bought an inexpensive Chinese wall clock, and less than two years later it stopped working. Before it finally quit working, it kept losing time constantly. I went to a charity shop and bought a similar old U.S.-made wall clock (label on back said it was from a company in Mississippi, probably manufactured in the 1970s) for a few "bucks" (USD $). I simply put a battery in it and it started keeping correct time immediately - still works today. Comparing the two, I noticed that the plastic was thicker and stronger in the U.S.-made product. The Red China clock had thin, brittle plastic and flimsy cardboard hands that were painted black. It was poorly contructed and unrepairable.
OMG when Winston was trying to pronounce the jibberish beer name and then you cut to a clip showing it, I couldn't stop laughing my ass off!
Chinese people in my part of Canada seem to love Chinese brands! at least judging by how many seem to buy from the Chinese food aisle!
Well, yeah, if they're expats, they're gonna go for food that makes them feel comfortable. But within China, the domestic "durable-goods" products are still considered less favorable than the established western brands, like Mercedes, etc.
Canadian regulators also don't generally allow imports of anything that could be unsafe. Shittier stuff does slip by when importing though.
chinese dont use Xiaomi? who use it then? because its kinda big in where i live ( europe )
China’s mobile phone Huawei has made Apple a second-rate。Winston is now making money by lying. Fallen.
@@llkk290 no serioulsy. i have no idea about mobil phones. if china isnt the biggest consumers of Xiaomi. who is? because at some point Xiaomi good sales was a threat to Samsung
@super boy Due to high prices, battery explosions and poor service, Samsung now has a market share of less than 1% in China. Huawei, Xiaomi, OPPO and VIVO have leading mobile phone sales.
Phones in china are like 60%Apple 40%Chinese brands
We still use chinese phones but because there are so many brands, the market share for them is quite small
They use it but when they can afford it they buy foreign products.
Can you guys comment on Tiktok and ByteDance, which is the highest worth tech company
I work at a US company that makes electric guitar pickups. We have circuit boards made by our partners in China but we have discovered over time that they are NOT using the correct quality capacitor that we specify, so the voice of the pickups is a bit off from what we originally designed. To be nice, we try and suggest that their capacitor supplier is not selling them the right type. They know now we aware of the shenanigans.
I bought a xiaomi redmi 2 smartphone.Very good quality and price,dropped it plenty of times and no noticeable damage.
I also bought 225/50/16" pace-pc10 tyres that are manufactured in China for my BMW E90 3series and they are also of good quality for the price so far.
I think it depends on the products and the quality control and legacy of manufacturing depending on the products as not all chinese products in my experience are bad.