Exactly. Free will always be good. What caught my attention for BandLab is I saw so many ppl were making decently good songs with just a simple app on their phone. At the end of the day it really isn’t about the daw it’s about the artist, and their talent for music and production. I mean fuck, so many new artists nowadays literally started off with garage band on their iPhone and Blew up with just a phone. Can’t say the same for some production TH-camrs who are still trying to push their music. With like 10k worth of music production gear.
I am 13 years old and just starting with producing and I think for a beginner (like me) bandlab is very good to start with because it's free and not to hard to use. But if I keep having making music as my hobby in a few years I definetely want to switch to perhaps logic or fl studio of something else.
I'm 13 too bro and I'm trying to Rapp and I have the lyrics just Bandlab is not it its just deficult to make a good beat that I want!! It's good for Vocal but not beats for me at least
Bandlab, for a real artist who's constantly on the move it's great for demos and collaborating with fellow artists who travel the country and perform and are never in the same place at the same time. Birth your ideas into a demo and release it, you can always count on hitting the big studio to re-record remix and remaster. Bandlab is like a notepad for a traveling poet.
@@Dtachedkid incorrect my shit actually very good in quality and im just getting better and i use apple earbuds to record. if u dont know how to use it fr thats fine but wat u said is false.
@@Dtachedkid unless u mean for making beats then i kinda agree but for recording its great fr. if u know what u doing and how to record properly then it can sound pretty professional ngl
@@nihiqallam5616 you can. It's just a simple and light saw really. I normally mix and match between FL studio and bandlab/cakewalk for different sounds. I have a special place in my heart for bandlab. May not be the best but it's what got me interested in making music
If you know what you are doing, an experienced professional can make a great album even with Bandlab. You might have to work a little harder, but it can be done. First off, before doing a compare video, I would suggest for people to actually learn Bandlab, every ins and outs. Nathan obviously did not learn every function of Bandlab. He complained about sounds, but failed to realize that Bandlab has a sampler. He could of created his own instrument sounds, or use other sampled instrument sounds. Secondly, he did not use any of the many tools bandlab has to offer to make the tracks sound better. Bandlab offers EQ, Compression, Reverb, as well as many other affects. Third Nathan failed to use any of the many "sound packs" that are available in Bandlab. Fourth, one of the great things many people overlook about Bandlab is it's collaboration features. Having the ability to share a song that everyone can work on without having to try and find a way to email large track files, etc is a huge advantage. It's as easiy as sharing a google doc project. Lastly, for a free program, Bandlab offers a lot. If you actually take the time to study Bandlab and what it offers, one will realize it is very close to Garageband in capability. Bandlab even offers free mastering. Simply drop your sound file into one of the several categories on the browser link, and Bandlab will master your song. Instead of complaining about Bandlab from the start, Nathan should have actually did his research and learn the browser DAW. Bandlab is a very powerful DAW, and has my respect. Bandlab also offers Sonar Cakewalk DAW for free (PC Window Users). I am a user of Bandlab and Garageband, but my main DAW is Logic Pro X. I know the ins and outs of all 3 DAW. Yes, Bandlab is not as powerful as Logic Pro X, but make no mistake, Bandlab offers a lot of tools to make a professional song. Instead of making a video from the point of view of someone who obviously doesn't know the ins and outs of Bandlab, he should have actually learned every function and capability of Bandlab, and presented a video for producers who are starting out. Any producer who is starting out and does not have money to spend, Bandlab is a very capable DAW to make professional songs. Again, you might have to work a little harder, but it can be done. In conclusion, people be aware of Nathan. This guy loves to make videos dissing on various DAWs and acting like they are toys. He made videos dissing on Garageband like it's a toy, and he is doing the same for Bandlab. Apparently he is too young to realize a time when hard disk recorders were used, and even farther back reel to reel tape. Bandlab has more features and is more powerful tool than reel to reel tape and hard disk recorders, and yet professional albums were and can be made on all 3 medium.
@@ilijaobradovic8745 ????? I have Logic Pro already. I also use Reaper, Bandlap, Garageband, Audacity. Good producers can use all of them and know how to use all of them.
@@ilijaobradovic8745 ????? I have Logic Pro already. I also use Reaper, Bandlap, Garageband, Audacity. Good producers can use all of them and know how to use all of them. I also use hard disk recording, and can even use a Fostex X 26 multi studio. Like I said, good producers and engineers can use anything, and know how to use it. These are powerful tools and not toys like the original poster makes them out to be. Bandlab and Garageband are not toys, they are powerful DAWs.
It is good for beginners. I have spent two years on there and have upgraded to Cakewalk and I have made some pretty kickass beats with Bandlab. You haven't spent a lot of time on there to really learn it. And to be honest, the mobile version on your phone is better, faster and works easier. Real talk.
However meh it might be, I feel like Bandlab isn’t made for really advanced stuff and professionals, especially those who are already using software like Logic. To me it feels like Bandlab is an accessible and somewhat basic but still decent software to play around in, collaborate with others and have a bit of fun. My music teacher at school for example says it’s perfect for her younger students to use when composing in the curriculum. Maybe that’s not really a flex, but that’s definitely the type of thing Bandlab aims for and works well at.
@@JustFun-lq9ef I am using bandlab until I make something that sounds really solid. Cause if it sounds solid in Bandlavmb its bound to sound solid in FL etc
Bandlab is amazing for sketching on the go because you can simply exort the midi and use it in your main daw. For recording vocals it's actually surprising good for a quick sketch or demo. And if youre a complete beginner it got a really good AI that will bring will mix up to pro loudness.
Indeed, the platform actually has tons of professionals and well known producers, they just use it as a cloud sketchpad. It's built for beginners who want to easily get stated, or pros who are sick of GB's bs IMHO.
@Doug in Real Life if you have a PC i recommend cakewalk. It's bandlab still, but it's an actual DAW software. It's free, and it's professional. It was a paid daw at one point but bandlab bought it and made it free
@Doug in Real Life no they don't. You can choose to have it pushed out onto the platform where other ppl can listen to your music (they can't use it) but you don't have to. All you need is a bandlab account, you don't gotta do the social stuff
When composers have an idea, we need to record it imediately. BandLab gives us some air, without replacing Logic, Cubase or Reaper. Again: it's a beginner/prototype tool, and works really well. Just installed it and recorded a blues within 5 minutes, using my desk as drums.It's AMAZING. Will record that on my studio today :)
Unfair review going through simple midi instruments presets. What about real instruments audio recording and remote collaboration? That is where bandlab shines.
I may be wrong, but I think Cakewalk, which used to be Sonar, is pretty good. This is a version of their "online" DAW which completely different than Cakewalk that you install on your computer. Just saying, that this can be a little misleading to newcomers.
@@nathan9901 I don't think you read the post correctly. I said that the paid software often gets out performed by freeware....your just proving my point.
I agree that collaboration is tricky when doing remote work - especially if it's back and forth and you don't have the same plugins as the person you're working with but it's still possible.
it's an amazing starting software for people making music, especially for people easily intimidated by complexity. One of the best parts of the software is that it's really easy to use on mobile.
Was hoping he'd try cakewalk. That's my daw, and it's great for the price (free). It was once a paid daw that costed like 400 dollars but bandlab bought it and made it free
You actually need to compare Cakewalk by Bandlab to Logic! Cakewalk is much better although it doesn't come with a lot of instruments it's much better than what you tested here.
Indeed, this is is just a clickbait reaction video IMHO. Nathan's attitude is exactly what causes gatekeeping in the music community. Sure, go spend 5 years and 3k to get a MBP, audio interface, and Logic; or, just open a browser and start getting creative...
@@johnivers1713 yeah u really only need to know basic theory like chords, chord progressions, and minor and major keys. Even that is a bit iffy cuz cakewalk for example does scales for you
Cakewalk is far superior to bandlab as it doesn't lack any features, yet is also free. I primarily use cakewalk and make everything from rock, pop punk, metal, house, edm, trance, and hip hop. Can really use it for whatever and not feel like your missing out on any features
bandlab is definitely a decent DAW for being free and online, I started with it 2 years ago and still use it occasionally because of how simple and fun it is. However, it isn't really any kind of end-game or professional DAW. It can, at times, feel like you are working against the software when producing a track, but overall, it gets you where you want to go, I would say.
''I don't really feel like a pro... producer ryt now, I feel like a loser" & "you probably don't own any because its free! & you're cheap" really hit deep n personal for us who use Bandlab as our main DAW 😭
@@KiesStaminhoNiggas think it's all about the program, but really y'all just kinda suck? ASAP Rocky made one of the most well known songs from an app that's on your phone, let that sink in 🤣🤣
Bandlab have a proper studio called "Cakewalk", which I believe is slightly better. The browser version is more for recording real instruments/vocals Edit: Having used it, it is way better
Slightly better? Its a full DAW! For free! I started with the original Cakewalk in the 90's then Sonar and now this one. It compares to Cubase and all the others. Full comprehensive DAW not for beginners really.
the reason you were unable to quantize is probably because of the way you were viewing the piano roll if you went to view and changed your piano roll viewing to 16ths then it mightve worked
Bandlabs more of a starter if anything, and the more u use it the better you get at certain things and you can end up making wicked bangers with it, im still using it and im very much delighted with what I can do with it
Sir, I’d like you to know that I secretly recorded my sister playing COD with her friends and turned it into a song on BandLab. The chorus was: “everyone stop effing dying” and it was in fact a banger. Thanks
I started on BandLab until I got a computer now I’m learning more and using waveform but it’s a journey it’s a process as long as you’re having fun and able to create music with more and more easily accessible just enjoy the experience of putting your first masterpiece together and then fine tuning it to the best of your ability until you learn more and more
@@amanjoshua994 Why'd u bother spending ur money? CbBL does everything that S1 does and maybe more.. Each daw has its own special feature that makes it cool for that thing.. But aside from that, if it's fully featured? It's got to have everything you need.. and Cakewalk is fully featured. I spent $549 on it before bandlab made it free.. and they hav done a lot bug fixes and additional updates since then to make it better, more stable... and free. It's crazy, but whatever.. It's better than when I bought it and it's free..
4:53. "So, you know, thank you bandlab for the recommendation. I appreciate it" said in reference to free software. Sums up the attitude and style of this whole video.
Agree. I am not understanding why he would compare a pro DAW to just an online beat mixer like bandlab, though. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a bicycle. Cakewalk definitely gives Logic a hard run, though. Even if it wasn't free now.
@@DavidMaclin351 totally dude. I love Nathan's videos but I found this one a bit odd if I'm being honest. Yeah sure review Bandlab by all means, but like you say putting it up against Logic is mental because obviously Logic wins every time. I think Bandlab probably brought this upon themselves though by claiming to be a 'pro' recording solution, when clearly it can't be used in the same way as Logic. I'm a Cakewalk user, and it's every bit as good if not better than most of the paid-for DAWs I've used in the past. Bandlab are putting a fair bit of time and resource into keeping it maintained and the constant development on it at the moment is fantastic. So I'm torn - I want people to use Bandlab so it helps to keep Cakewalk going, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't use it myself!
Bandlab is not supposed to replace Logic. I suggest composers (we need a fast way to record, our phones are always on) and beginners. It's not a professional tool. But believe: to composers, it's really handy!
Yeah. Cakewalk is better in any way so we have literally no reason whatsoever to use the PC web version of BandLab. The android version helps tho, I'm on an uncle's house and the only thing I have to capture my ideas is the smartphone
I personally create tracks through GarageBand, and transfer the finished sample to band labs and record my vocals through there because I just feel it’s easier and sounds better when mixing my vocals. But creating a track through band labs is a hell like no other. Especially if you’re trying to get it done through the phone app
I have universal audio Apollo with 2 satellite Octos and I produce better on Bandlab because it’s always by my side. I use my phone. The stuff I have produced on band lab is way more controlled. Sometimes less is more. In this instance I feel like maybe Bandlab has been a lesson to show me I kept chasing the illusion of bigger and better bells and whistles and plug ins when I had everything I needed in the most basic versions. That was after I learned how to produce and engineer. I learned that after I learned the fundamental basics. It is so good for preproduction and honestly I like what I have been doing on my phone in a lot of ways.
bandlab is just the gateway to cakewalk if you're a producer. or - go to the Philippines with oh idk, your phone only and see how you feel about it when taken in context. don't get me wrong, i don't use bandlab but this was so hard to watch and i always imagined you to have a positive attitude that... yeah no.
I have no problem with BandLab as a gateway - and I even said that if you are just getting starting it's probably not a bad option - though I'd say there are better free options out there. Even though I didn't like it - the video is meant to be entertaining not somehow me "not having a positive attitude" - I'm an overwhelmingly positive person. Sorry you felt that way though.
@@NathanJamesLarsen i want to back up a bit and clarify my position - i don't love bandlab. i never gave it half the time you appear to have given it, preferring to swiftly uninstall it over breaking something i'd rather keep. watching you, i could see that you wanted to promote the app, and it just wasn't having it lol like it was making up ways on the spot to prevent that from happening... like you'd say "bandlab's not bad" it would cut you off saying "stfu" and you'd say "check out bandlab" and it would say "gtfo" lol it had me about to break some shht i'd regret breaking lol. so i was not working words well when i posted, specifically the "yeah no" wasn't referencing your attitude i apologize for that because i see it does look like it was directed at you. actually i was shaking my head, wagging a finger saying "naw bandlab you know better yeah no."
Um, why are you comparing Bandlab to Logic when the former is their cut down version (similar to Garageband)? For any semblance of fairness, the software you should have put head to head against Logic is Cakewalk by Bandlab (formerly known as Sonar). Anyone who's been into DAWs for more than five minutes knows that one is a full-featured DAW developed over DECADES. Frankly, all this did was confuse a lot of people!
Idk why but the BandLab version sounds better low key… I think It’s the drums you used on it and if you mixed it as good as the other one it could be 🔥
to my knowledge, lemon demon used Cakewalk by Bandlab on his 2016 album Spirit Phone, i definitely recommend a listen because the quality on that album is stellar
Bandlab is the future of music production who wants to be in a studio for 8 hrs a day when you can make the next multi million track on the bus or walking to work. This is yet to occur but once it happens Logic, Prtotools, Ableton, will wish they hit the mobile market for music production the Future of the music industry is in the palm of your hands. Good luck to all the music creators.
Been composing professionally since 5 years old and I can say cakewalk bandlab is a very good tool for getting down ideas, and if you really have the skill you can make some really good songs with a toy
Nice try though. I kind of struggle on band lab too. Just stick the daw your more comfortable with. Reid Stefan and Karra actually made an actually pro song under 23 minutes with bandlab. It's the user in the end.
From Peru, 2020, 21 years old, my favorite music genres were Latin, Pop and Lofi, and as a BEGINNER with no computer. mics or MIDI controllers, just using my android phone, BANDLAB was perfect for me. A SOCIAL DAW APP, easy to connect, chat, record, edit, store, organize and share without using all of my phone memory space. 2022, two years later, I'm sereously thinking whether I will live MUSIC as a hobby or as a carreer, and I have a basic set up with a laptop, but a lot of times... DESKTOP BANDLAB just doesn't work as good as using my phone. Same and more tools, but maybe the problems are some bugs or my hardware. So currently, I principally want my ideas to flow quickly, sound better, create new interesting sounds, make music for videos, games and record acustic percussion. so I decided to try diferent DAWS like CAKEWALK AND REAPER, and continue this journey.
I love his sarcasm when he played the reveal... He looked so happy when the video continued but we all know that wasn't quite what it was when he was creating it :D
Many creatives use a Groovebox, MPC, 4 track, sampler/sample player, etc to get a rough sketch going, and that’s kinda what I see bandlab as, a place to get rough sketches down and export them to daw for arranging to complete.
I only use it to export MIDI. Figure out the melody, export the MIDI file to some friends. Getting Logic in a few days, so I'm never gonna touch Bandlab after that
@@illestvillain1971 It's such a giant leap up from GB, and an even bigger step up from BL. I've downloaded/installed some free plugins as well, and I'm having the time of my life. Granted, this is from the POV of a music and audio nerd, so take it with a grain of salt. Logic may not be for everyone, but I'd recommend trying out the free trial at least
bro you should upload the full track from the reveal. im absolutely digging it! accidentally commented this on another video and was wondering where my comment went
The common misconception about BandLab is it's only for beginners. This couldn't be any further from truth. Sure, other DAWs might have things that let you do perhaps more flashy stuff, but that doesn't make BandLab a beginners only DAW. Beginners only DAWs exist that you'll soon find that you can't really seriously make much music with them and would want to switch, but BandLab has everything for everyone in it, from an absolute beginner to an absolute pro producer.
I'm having to use band lab right now because My computer that I had cubase on completely broke and I didn't have my license on a dongle/usb and OH MY GOD! Basic things that were SOOOOO easy to do in cubase are taking me FOREVER, especially things having to do with recording midi, quantization, and just everything actually. It makes me feel like I've never used a DAW before. So long story short I totally agree and I can't even tell you how much I miss being able to use Cubase right now.
Lol, “Now I have to make hip hop”. That’s actually a true statement. I like this app because it is compatible with my iPhone. Very cool to keep idea while on the road. Great tutorial, thank you.
Whether it's music ,video ,paint ,special effects, or any type of free software , usually the paid version will be superior which is normal, but if you have little or no money the free software will allow anyone to get started and often you do get impressive results that 95% of the people will enjoy and not know it was done with free software.Still a good review from a producer who works in music.
Been on bandlab for 3 years now and with all that you can make anything even tho the app isn't that good you can still produce great music its just how you see fits
If you know how to play why would you want to quantize your sound? It's just not robotic enough? And then people that don't know how to play humanize their sound so it sounds less robotic can you guys make up your mind?
That was pretty good. I understand your frustration because Cakewalk can be a bit glitchy. I've encountered the quantize function problems too. That being said, the fact that it's free is what makes it a really great tool. I've been a musician for years, but never had a DAW. The closest I ever came was an old Roland VS-1824 that I used 20 years ago. Earlier this year I downloaded Cakewalk and I've had a blast learning to record. If I do move onto Logic or Ableton, I feel like Cakewalk prepared me by introducing me to what a DAW can do. I was DAW illiterate before, and now I'm not.
i been a cakewalk user for years and first, its NOT a mac program its for windows. You in the wrong version of cakewalk. You need to go creative sauce TH-cam page to learn the real program by watching his tutorial . Cakewalk by band lab. you have to have a windows PC and you do not own a PC then your in the same boat as people who owns a PC and cant use Logic. THE REAL program has way more tools Logic Pro, Protools and studio one combined
Bandlab is fire bro and I'm a vet in this music world. Lol. It will sound just like that reveal you just gotta keep playing with it bro. Bandlab rocks! #Cheap! Garage band is tight too. I'll producer battle you and time Nat. Dr. Trackenstein coming for your crown.
Side note: whilst the digital instrument supports isn’t the best, as someone who uses an audio interface with my guitar and drums, this software works wonderfully
Cakewalk is a great daw and it's free this looks like let's beat up on bandlab video everything by Apple is over priced if you use a online daw this is what you can expect
Dude the music was fire! So yeah, I can agree about bandlab's setup 'cause when I try to do music I feel so bad because my music is basically trash but you can still do cool remixes about popular musics tho
This dude comparing a go cart to a tesla and still can't drive a tesla right. You ever tried using logic on your phone? Ever try collaborating in logic? it's not either or, it's about workflows and accessibility. glad you have the money for apple products, the world mostly doesn't and musical creativity should be universally available.
Bandlab has improved a lottttt, and ive found that many ppl can make beats with it that are indistinguishable from those of more complex DAWs like FL or ableton or logic! sure, there are many limitations but its still pretty good :3
It feels relieving hearing the "no's" when he was looking for beats and synthesizers on bandlab, cause whenever I'm on it I thought I was the pickiest person with the options lmaooooo
Comparing Free to $200 is extreme, I think BandLab is fine for starters.
Exactly. Free will always be good. What caught my attention for BandLab is I saw so many ppl were making decently good songs with just a simple app on their phone.
At the end of the day it really isn’t about the daw it’s about the artist, and their talent for music and production. I mean fuck, so many new artists nowadays literally started off with garage band on their iPhone and Blew up with just a phone. Can’t say the same for some production TH-camrs who are still trying to push their music. With like 10k worth of music production gear.
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THIS SONG WAS MADE ON BANDLAB WHAT YALL THINK 😳 th-cam.com/video/2FVZKZ3VxZM/w-d-xo.html
Getting tired of BandLab they fw my presets everytime theres a update
Yeah, I use BandLab everyday to produce music.
I am 13 years old and just starting with producing and I think for a beginner (like me) bandlab is very good to start with because it's free and not to hard to use. But if I keep having making music as my hobby in a few years I definetely want to switch to perhaps logic or fl studio of something else.
Ableton
Fruit loops is best for beginners
@@emaanuelortiz3652 but that's not free
I'm 13 too bro and I'm trying to Rapp and I have the lyrics just Bandlab is not it its just deficult to make a good beat that I want!! It's good for Vocal but not beats for me at least
@@MexicanoTuber17 thanks man I'll remember it!,
Bandlab, for a real artist who's constantly on the move it's great for demos and collaborating with fellow artists who travel the country and perform and are never in the same place at the same time. Birth your ideas into a demo and release it, you can always count on hitting the big studio to re-record remix and remaster. Bandlab is like a notepad for a traveling poet.
And for those purposes its GREAT !!!!!!!!
Nah the only thing bandlab is good for is drafting ideas
Club penguin soundstudio is best
@@Dtachedkid incorrect my shit actually very good in quality and im just getting better and i use apple earbuds to record. if u dont know how to use it fr thats fine but wat u said is false.
@@Dtachedkid unless u mean for making beats then i kinda agree but for recording its great fr. if u know what u doing and how to record properly then it can sound pretty professional ngl
I feel like BandLab is really great for recording a song instead of making beats but it’s also good for a beginner of producing
No you can actually make music with bandlab check music It was made from Bandlab
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Trust me you can do a lot with beats
@@Q.i.x. let me hear your beat then
@@nihiqallam5616 th-cam.com/channels/VKUeVe7twBmrZMxuqcAxNw.html
@@nihiqallam5616 you can. It's just a simple and light saw really. I normally mix and match between FL studio and bandlab/cakewalk for different sounds.
I have a special place in my heart for bandlab. May not be the best but it's what got me interested in making music
If you know what you are doing, an experienced professional can make a great album even with Bandlab. You might have to work a little harder, but it can be done. First off, before doing a compare video, I would suggest for people to actually learn Bandlab, every ins and outs. Nathan obviously did not learn every function of Bandlab. He complained about sounds, but failed to realize that Bandlab has a sampler. He could of created his own instrument sounds, or use other sampled instrument sounds. Secondly, he did not use any of the many tools bandlab has to offer to make the tracks sound better. Bandlab offers EQ, Compression, Reverb, as well as many other affects. Third Nathan failed to use any of the many "sound packs" that are available in Bandlab. Fourth, one of the great things many people overlook about Bandlab is it's collaboration features. Having the ability to share a song that everyone can work on without having to try and find a way to email large track files, etc is a huge advantage. It's as easiy as sharing a google doc project. Lastly, for a free program, Bandlab offers a lot. If you actually take the time to study Bandlab and what it offers, one will realize it is very close to Garageband in capability. Bandlab even offers free mastering. Simply drop your sound file into one of the several categories on the browser link, and Bandlab will master your song. Instead of complaining about Bandlab from the start, Nathan should have actually did his research and learn the browser DAW. Bandlab is a very powerful DAW, and has my respect. Bandlab also offers Sonar Cakewalk DAW for free (PC Window Users). I am a user of Bandlab and Garageband, but my main DAW is Logic Pro X. I know the ins and outs of all 3 DAW. Yes, Bandlab is not as powerful as Logic Pro X, but make no mistake, Bandlab offers a lot of tools to make a professional song. Instead of making a video from the point of view of someone who obviously doesn't know the ins and outs of Bandlab, he should have actually learned every function and capability of Bandlab, and presented a video for producers who are starting out. Any producer who is starting out and does not have money to spend, Bandlab is a very capable DAW to make professional songs. Again, you might have to work a little harder, but it can be done. In conclusion, people be aware of Nathan. This guy loves to make videos dissing on various DAWs and acting like they are toys. He made videos dissing on Garageband like it's a toy, and he is doing the same for Bandlab. Apparently he is too young to realize a time when hard disk recorders were used, and even farther back reel to reel tape. Bandlab has more features and is more powerful tool than reel to reel tape and hard disk recorders, and yet professional albums were and can be made on all 3 medium.
Oh my god, bro just crack ableton or logic CHRIST ALMIGHTY!
@@ilijaobradovic8745 ????? I have Logic Pro already. I also use Reaper, Bandlap, Garageband, Audacity. Good producers can use all of them and know how to use all of them.
@@ilijaobradovic8745 ????? I have Logic Pro already. I also use Reaper, Bandlap, Garageband, Audacity. Good producers can use all of them and know how to use all of them. I also use hard disk recording, and can even use a Fostex X 26 multi studio. Like I said, good producers and engineers can use anything, and know how to use it. These are powerful tools and not toys like the original poster makes them out to be. Bandlab and Garageband are not toys, they are powerful DAWs.
same opinion here. You nailed it.
Can the output of Bandlab be played in any media player such as itunes or else? I'm still new with this thing.
It is good for beginners. I have spent two years on there and have upgraded to Cakewalk and I have made some pretty kickass beats with Bandlab. You haven't spent a lot of time on there to really learn it. And to be honest, the mobile version on your phone is better, faster and works easier. Real talk.
Yes put these mfs on game Bandlab mobile really be bussin tho 😭💯
Where is the 💙 button
Definitely agree
Yup. IMO it's good for quickly writing notes that pop up into your head
Totally agree. Plus they've been reworking it, adding new instruments, taking out others (R.I.P. Classic Metal), and just improving things overall.
However meh it might be, I feel like Bandlab isn’t made for really advanced stuff and professionals, especially those who are already using software like Logic. To me it feels like Bandlab is an accessible and somewhat basic but still decent software to play around in, collaborate with others and have a bit of fun. My music teacher at school for example says it’s perfect for her younger students to use when composing in the curriculum. Maybe that’s not really a flex, but that’s definitely the type of thing Bandlab aims for and works well at.
It's for the beginners. Beat makers.
I use bandlab to save songs I have written so I can already be prepared when I go to an actual studio
I agree. I’m starting off with BandLab, but I’m probably going to move onto something better and more advanced now that I have experience
@@brettmcgill5085 yeah, me too.
@@JustFun-lq9ef I am using bandlab until I make something that sounds really solid. Cause if it sounds solid in Bandlavmb its bound to sound solid in FL etc
Bandlab is amazing for sketching on the go because you can simply exort the midi and use it in your main daw.
For recording vocals it's actually surprising good for a quick sketch or demo.
And if youre a complete beginner it got a really good AI that will bring will mix up to pro loudness.
Indeed, the platform actually has tons of professionals and well known producers, they just use it as a cloud sketchpad. It's built for beginners who want to easily get stated, or pros who are sick of GB's bs IMHO.
@Doug in Real Life if you have a PC i recommend cakewalk. It's bandlab still, but it's an actual DAW software. It's free, and it's professional. It was a paid daw at one point but bandlab bought it and made it free
@Doug in Real Life no they don't. You can choose to have it pushed out onto the platform where other ppl can listen to your music (they can't use it) but you don't have to. All you need is a bandlab account, you don't gotta do the social stuff
When composers have an idea, we need to record it imediately. BandLab gives us some air, without replacing Logic, Cubase or Reaper. Again: it's a beginner/prototype tool, and works really well. Just installed it and recorded a blues within 5 minutes, using my desk as drums.It's AMAZING. Will record that on my studio today :)
You should see me write words in my samsung notes when I get ideas HAHAHAHHAHA
@@yongyilim1655 we all do it fam, keep up the grind tho 💪💪💪💪
@@navoneel no like
I write the literal notes
It's the most goofing dumb shit to look at except inactually understand what i wrote 😆
@@navoneel it's not like the theme or story, it's the literal notes of the song HAHAHAHA
@@yongyilim1655 I see lol
Unfair review going through simple midi instruments presets. What about real instruments audio recording and remote collaboration? That is where bandlab shines.
It's 2 years later, try it again. I think you'll be impressed with the updates!
Seems more like a sound library review than a DAW review. It's not the tool, but how you use it.
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I may be wrong, but I think Cakewalk, which used to be Sonar, is pretty good. This is a version of their "online" DAW which completely different than Cakewalk that you install on your computer. Just saying, that this can be a little misleading to newcomers.
but... you can't compare bandlab to logic... logic is a high end software.
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High end software that often gets out performed by cheaper or free software.....knowing how to use the DAW makes a world of difference.
@@nathan9901 I don't think you read the post correctly. I said that the paid software often gets out performed by freeware....your just proving my point.
@@nathan9901 Bro, he is saying free software can produce the same or better results than paid software
Also it's clear he is more accustomed to logic than bandlab
I love the idea of BandLab for collaboration. It’s kind of awkward to share songs with logic or GB, in my opinion. I’d love to be proven wrong!
I agree that collaboration is tricky when doing remote work - especially if it's back and forth and you don't have the same plugins as the person you're working with but it's still possible.
you can use satellite by mixed in key for collaboration while you’re in logic, it’s free
This is the only reason I use BandLab, so yeah I’d love to have the same collaboration functionality in other DAWs.
I suggest checking out Presonus Sphere (Studio One) and the collaboration options.
check out mind from other music in band lab
it's an amazing starting software for people making music, especially for people easily intimidated by complexity. One of the best parts of the software is that it's really easy to use on mobile.
I started on BandLab and have been using Logic for a year now so this video definitely hits home
Was hoping he'd try cakewalk. That's my daw, and it's great for the price (free). It was once a paid daw that costed like 400 dollars but bandlab bought it and made it free
i like cakewalk too been using it exclusively for a while now
I have cakewalk on my pc but I’m a noob how do I get better
@@firek8376 trial and error. the only way to get better is to research, learn, and keep producing
@@moldysourlemons hey you should check out reaper too. its a bit complicated but its super versatile
@@caliel3417 FL is the easiest
You actually need to compare Cakewalk by Bandlab to Logic! Cakewalk is much better although it doesn't come with a lot of instruments it's much better than what you tested here.
Cakewalk is Windows only i think.
Indeed, this is is just a clickbait reaction video IMHO. Nathan's attitude is exactly what causes gatekeeping in the music community. Sure, go spend 5 years and 3k to get a MBP, audio interface, and Logic; or, just open a browser and start getting creative...
@@Byronic19134 I'm pretty sure they just very recently released a Mac version, within the last month or so, I believe.
@@johnivers1713 yeah u really only need to know basic theory like chords, chord progressions, and minor and major keys. Even that is a bit iffy cuz cakewalk for example does scales for you
Cakewalk is far superior to bandlab as it doesn't lack any features, yet is also free. I primarily use cakewalk and make everything from rock, pop punk, metal, house, edm, trance, and hip hop. Can really use it for whatever and not feel like your missing out on any features
bandlab is definitely a decent DAW for being free and online, I started with it 2 years ago and still use it occasionally because of how simple and fun it is. However, it isn't really any kind of end-game or professional DAW. It can, at times, feel like you are working against the software when producing a track, but overall, it gets you where you want to go, I would say.
''I don't really feel like a pro... producer ryt now, I feel like a loser" & "you probably don't own any because its free! & you're cheap"
really hit deep n personal for us who use Bandlab as our main DAW 😭
Why would you main this? It's nice for on the go or at work but there is absolutely no reason to use this as your main DAW.
@@KiesStaminho what do you use man?
@@KiesStaminhoNiggas think it's all about the program, but really y'all just kinda suck? ASAP Rocky made one of the most well known songs from an app that's on your phone, let that sink in 🤣🤣
no money @@KiesStaminho
@@KiesStaminhonot everyone is in a financial state to be able to upgrade
1:17 “that sounds terrible”. That cracked me up 🤣
Alternative title: 9 minutes of Nathan losing his mind over Bandlab
haha! So many moments I was thinking "well... this isn't very good"
@@NathanJamesLarsen do bandlab again I want see improvement
Bandlab have a proper studio called "Cakewalk", which I believe is slightly better. The browser version is more for recording real instruments/vocals
Edit: Having used it, it is way better
Is it free as well?
@@StrongBodySecrets8 Yes
Slightly better? Its a full DAW! For free! I started with the original Cakewalk in the 90's then Sonar and now this one. It compares to Cubase and all the others. Full comprehensive DAW not for beginners really.
@@taketwo-e5u it's good but for me the audio is crackling a lot/recording is delayed by a bit
@@lojadorsmp it sounds like you need to increase the latency setting to suit your sound card.
the reason you were unable to quantize is probably because of the way you were viewing the piano roll
if you went to view and changed your piano roll viewing to 16ths then it mightve worked
Bandlabs more of a starter if anything, and the more u use it the better you get at certain things and you can end up making wicked bangers with it, im still using it and im very much delighted with what I can do with it
Sir, I’d like you to know that I secretly recorded my sister playing COD with her friends and turned it into a song on BandLab. The chorus was: “everyone stop effing dying” and it was in fact a banger. Thanks
I wanna hear that!
I started on BandLab until I got a computer now I’m learning more and using waveform but it’s a journey it’s a process as long as you’re having fun and able to create music with more and more easily accessible just enjoy the experience of putting your first masterpiece together and then fine tuning it to the best of your ability until you learn more and more
You've got to select the notes on the piano roll you want quantized before hitting the button.
Dude, try cakewalk (it's free as well).. that's a full fledged DAW.. at least according to Bandlab
It used to be a paid DAW back then but bandlab bought em an made it free.
@@SmokeDaJitt yes i know that. I used cakewalk for a few months before I bought studio one
@@amanjoshua994 that’s dope! 🙂was jus throwin’ it out there
@@amanjoshua994 Why'd u bother spending ur money? CbBL does everything that S1 does and maybe more.. Each daw has its own special feature that makes it cool for that thing.. But aside from that, if it's fully featured? It's got to have everything you need.. and Cakewalk is fully featured. I spent $549 on it before bandlab made it free.. and they hav done a lot bug fixes and additional updates since then to make it better, more stable... and free. It's crazy, but whatever.. It's better than when I bought it and it's free..
@@nodaysback1 when did you buy it
4:53. "So, you know, thank you bandlab for the recommendation. I appreciate it" said in reference to free software. Sums up the attitude and style of this whole video.
BUT....Cakewalk by Bandlab is fantastic 👌🏼
Agree. I am not understanding why he would compare a pro DAW to just an online beat mixer like bandlab, though. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a bicycle.
Cakewalk definitely gives Logic a hard run, though. Even if it wasn't free now.
@@DavidMaclin351 totally dude. I love Nathan's videos but I found this one a bit odd if I'm being honest. Yeah sure review Bandlab by all means, but like you say putting it up against Logic is mental because obviously Logic wins every time. I think Bandlab probably brought this upon themselves though by claiming to be a 'pro' recording solution, when clearly it can't be used in the same way as Logic. I'm a Cakewalk user, and it's every bit as good if not better than most of the paid-for DAWs I've used in the past. Bandlab are putting a fair bit of time and resource into keeping it maintained and the constant development on it at the moment is fantastic. So I'm torn - I want people to use Bandlab so it helps to keep Cakewalk going, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't use it myself!
@@JohnnyF71 I'm a big cakewalk fan. Sometimes it's less aggravating than FL for me.
Love some stuff I've done on it but it's not my go-to daw
Bandlab is not supposed to replace Logic. I suggest composers (we need a fast way to record, our phones are always on) and beginners. It's not a professional tool. But believe: to composers, it's really handy!
Yeah. Cakewalk is better in any way so we have literally no reason whatsoever to use the PC web version of BandLab.
The android version helps tho, I'm on an uncle's house and the only thing I have to capture my ideas is the smartphone
I personally create tracks through GarageBand, and transfer the finished sample to band labs and record my vocals through there because I just feel it’s easier and sounds better when mixing my vocals. But creating a track through band labs is a hell like no other. Especially if you’re trying to get it done through the phone app
I have universal audio Apollo with 2 satellite Octos and I produce better on Bandlab because it’s always by my side. I use my phone. The stuff I have produced on band lab is way more controlled. Sometimes less is more. In this instance I feel like maybe Bandlab has been a lesson to show me I kept chasing the illusion of bigger and better bells and whistles and plug ins when I had everything I needed in the most basic versions. That was after I learned how to produce and engineer. I learned that after I learned the fundamental basics. It is so good for preproduction and honestly I like what I have been doing on my phone in a lot of ways.
bandlab is just the gateway to cakewalk if you're a producer. or - go to the Philippines with oh idk, your phone only and see how you feel about it when taken in context. don't get me wrong, i don't use bandlab but this was so hard to watch and i always imagined you to have a positive attitude that... yeah no.
I have no problem with BandLab as a gateway - and I even said that if you are just getting starting it's probably not a bad option - though I'd say there are better free options out there. Even though I didn't like it - the video is meant to be entertaining not somehow me "not having a positive attitude" - I'm an overwhelmingly positive person. Sorry you felt that way though.
@@NathanJamesLarsen i want to back up a bit and clarify my position - i don't love bandlab. i never gave it half the time you appear to have given it, preferring to swiftly uninstall it over breaking something i'd rather keep. watching you, i could see that you wanted to promote the app, and it just wasn't having it lol like it was making up ways on the spot to prevent that from happening... like you'd say "bandlab's not bad" it would cut you off saying "stfu" and you'd say "check out bandlab" and it would say "gtfo" lol it had me about to break some shht i'd regret breaking lol.
so i was not working words well when i posted, specifically the "yeah no" wasn't referencing your attitude i apologize for that because i see it does look like it was directed at you. actually i was shaking my head, wagging a finger saying "naw bandlab you know better yeah no."
Um, why are you comparing Bandlab to Logic when the former is their cut down version (similar to Garageband)? For any semblance of fairness, the software you should have put head to head against Logic is Cakewalk by Bandlab (formerly known as Sonar). Anyone who's been into DAWs for more than five minutes knows that one is a full-featured DAW developed over DECADES. Frankly, all this did was confuse a lot of people!
A "pro Producer" Tries BandLab
@@Shadmannnn I guess that's even worse...
Idk why but the BandLab version sounds better low key… I think It’s the drums you used on it and if you mixed it as good as the other one it could be 🔥
The BandLab one does not sound better 💀💀💀
While you were working on band lab I could see your life draining away lololoo
Loving the videos buddy keep it up
to my knowledge, lemon demon used Cakewalk by Bandlab on his 2016 album Spirit Phone, i definitely recommend a listen because the quality on that album is stellar
I really hope what you said is true!
Bandlab is the future of music production who wants to be in a studio for 8 hrs a day when you can make the next multi million track on the bus or walking to work. This is yet to occur but once it happens Logic, Prtotools, Ableton, will wish they hit the mobile market for music production the Future of the music industry is in the palm of your hands. Good luck to all the music creators.
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Been composing professionally since 5 years old and I can say cakewalk bandlab is a very good tool for getting down ideas, and if you really have the skill you can make some really good songs with a toy
I mean that reveal in Logic at the end, Bro.... KILLA!
😎🔥 thanks!
Nice try though. I kind of struggle on band lab too. Just stick the daw your more comfortable with. Reid Stefan and Karra actually made an actually pro song under 23 minutes with bandlab. It's the user in the end.
Where can I find this at
This is EXACTLY what my experience was like using Bandlab.
What do you guys think??
“GarageBand is 10x better” 1000% agreed
I think you completely missed who these products are for and this video is entertaining but not helpful.
For what it is, BandLab is actually exceptionally good
No its not
From Peru, 2020, 21 years old, my favorite music genres were Latin, Pop and Lofi, and as a BEGINNER with no computer. mics or MIDI controllers, just using my android phone, BANDLAB was perfect for me. A SOCIAL DAW APP, easy to connect, chat, record, edit, store, organize and share without using all of my phone memory space.
2022, two years later, I'm sereously thinking whether I will live MUSIC as a hobby or as a carreer, and I have a basic set up with a laptop,
but a lot of times... DESKTOP BANDLAB just doesn't work as good as using my phone. Same and more tools, but maybe the problems are some bugs or my hardware.
So currently, I principally want my ideas to flow quickly, sound better, create new interesting sounds, make music for videos, games and record acustic percussion. so I decided to try diferent DAWS like CAKEWALK AND REAPER, and continue this journey.
Love these videos, thanks Nathan!
For sure! Ton of fun to do!
I love his sarcasm when he played the reveal... He looked so happy when the video continued but we all know that wasn't quite what it was when he was creating it :D
You could make something nearly similar to that on bandlab as well, sure logic is good but bandlab isn't the butt of all daws
Many creatives use a Groovebox, MPC, 4 track, sampler/sample player, etc to get a rough sketch going, and that’s kinda what I see bandlab as, a place to get rough sketches down and export them to daw for arranging to complete.
I’m glad I’ve finally found another person who gets so much joy out of funny keyboard sounds
i use this to record entire bands with live microphones .its amazing. From pre to post production.
where can i hear some of your work?
I use it everyday I'm pretty decent now it's not bad one year later and I still stand by this
I only use it to export MIDI. Figure out the melody, export the MIDI file to some friends. Getting Logic in a few days, so I'm never gonna touch Bandlab after that
How is logic doing? I assume it's great but never had it. Do you recommend?
@@illestvillain1971 It's such a giant leap up from GB, and an even bigger step up from BL. I've downloaded/installed some free plugins as well, and I'm having the time of my life. Granted, this is from the POV of a music and audio nerd, so take it with a grain of salt. Logic may not be for everyone, but I'd recommend trying out the free trial at least
listen my last bandlab song "no luck need", and u will get the name
Where's the song
Fecking quantise. Ha! So funny. This was my experience also, and the sounds playing a second or so after hitting the keys.
That’s fixable.
bro you should upload the full track from the reveal. im absolutely digging it!
accidentally commented this on another video and was wondering where my comment went
I'm a bandlab user. This was so hilarious to watch 😂
haha glad you thought so :)
i just turned 15 and im trying to make some nice music hits and i use bandlab because its free i really like it
0:29 - I place smug musicians in the same category as lawyers, priests and politicians.
i used fl studio, studio one, garage band and bandlab. and i think is not bad for the bandlab.
I've never heard about this software. But well, I've an other DAW since decades, so it's logical.
You couldn't download Cakewalk? I don't use the online version.
The common misconception about BandLab is it's only for beginners. This couldn't be any further from truth. Sure, other DAWs might have things that let you do perhaps more flashy stuff, but that doesn't make BandLab a beginners only DAW. Beginners only DAWs exist that you'll soon find that you can't really seriously make much music with them and would want to switch, but BandLab has everything for everyone in it, from an absolute beginner to an absolute pro producer.
wrong, just for starters you cant add anything to your master buss much less create ANY busses for that matter. NO PRO WORKS WITHOUT BUSSES. QUOTE ME
I'm having to use band lab right now because My computer that I had cubase on completely broke and I didn't have my license on a dongle/usb and OH MY GOD! Basic things that were SOOOOO easy to do in cubase are taking me FOREVER, especially things having to do with recording midi, quantization, and just everything actually. It makes me feel like I've never used a DAW before. So long story short I totally agree and I can't even tell you how much I miss being able to use Cubase right now.
Hey that's not fair. How many sounds and plugins did you use from logic it self?
I should have clarified that I was also using professional tools. My goal is less comparing Logic sounds and more having professional tools.
@@NathanJamesLarsen Ok fair enough. So you just wanted to make a fun video and let us know that bandlab is bad! ;-)
former Logic hardcore user here. Now very often on Bandlab because way faster results. Way more music creativity. And this is the point...
Comparing Bandlab to Logic is like comparing MS Paint to Adobe Photoshop.
Try comparing it to Cakewalk by Bandlab. That'll be a fair fight.
Lol, “Now I have to make hip hop”. That’s actually a true statement. I like this app because it is compatible with my iPhone. Very cool to keep idea while on the road. Great tutorial, thank you.
So much negativity baiting on youtube.
Whether it's music ,video ,paint ,special effects, or any type of free software , usually the paid version will be superior which is normal, but if you have little or no money the free software will allow anyone to get started and often you do get impressive results that 95% of the people will enjoy and not know it was done with free software.Still a good review from a producer who works in music.
let just say... you're logic ambassador
Been on bandlab for 3 years now and with all that you can make anything even tho the app isn't that good you can still produce great music its just how you see fits
If you know how to play why would you want to quantize your sound? It's just not robotic enough? And then people that don't know how to play humanize their sound so it sounds less robotic can you guys make up your mind?
D4vd proved to me that your daw doesn’t really matter, your skills do
I think if your just making a song from scratch its suck but for crate diggers and sample based hip hop it'll do just fine until the MPC come in
That was pretty good. I understand your frustration because Cakewalk can be a bit glitchy. I've encountered the quantize function problems too. That being said, the fact that it's free is what makes it a really great tool. I've been a musician for years, but never had a DAW. The closest I ever came was an old Roland VS-1824 that I used 20 years ago. Earlier this year I downloaded Cakewalk and I've had a blast learning to record. If I do move onto Logic or Ableton, I feel like Cakewalk prepared me by introducing me to what a DAW can do. I was DAW illiterate before, and now I'm not.
Shouldn't you have tried cakewalk by bandlab instead?
I learned on bandlab and I really know how to use it I have used it for over 3 years Now I use FL Studio
i been a cakewalk user for years and first, its NOT a mac program its for windows. You in the wrong version of cakewalk. You need to go creative sauce TH-cam page to learn the real program by watching his tutorial . Cakewalk by band lab. you have to have a windows PC and you do not own a PC then your in the same boat as people who owns a PC and cant use Logic. THE REAL program has way more tools Logic Pro, Protools and studio one combined
Bandlab is fire bro and I'm a vet in this music world. Lol. It will sound just like that reveal you just gotta keep playing with it bro. Bandlab rocks! #Cheap! Garage band is tight too. I'll producer battle you and time Nat. Dr. Trackenstein coming for your crown.
You should try Soundtrap next. Similar, but maybe better.
I agree, Soundtrap is better, but still a pain. Maybe I’m just difficult 😂
Side note: whilst the digital instrument supports isn’t the best, as someone who uses an audio interface with my guitar and drums, this software works wonderfully
Cakewalk is a great daw and it's free this looks like let's beat up on bandlab video everything by Apple is over priced if you use a online daw this is what you can expect
Dude the music was fire! So yeah, I can agree about bandlab's setup 'cause when I try to do music I feel so bad because my music is basically trash but you can still do cool remixes about popular musics tho
This dude comparing a go cart to a tesla and still can't drive a tesla right. You ever tried using logic on your phone? Ever try collaborating in logic? it's not either or, it's about workflows and accessibility. glad you have the money for apple products, the world mostly doesn't and musical creativity should be universally available.
If you spend time with it and see it’s just like cake walk and logic. You’ll understand it more and you can import sounds.
If you could make other instruments bandlab would be 10 times better
Not only hip-hop man, I saw a reggae beat made on the actual bandlab TH-cam channel and yes it sounds pretty good
Omg this is amazing! I'm so glad you made this video! I thought I was the only one that didn't like bandlab 😂.
when you are excited for hate:
Man, those Scary Pad sounds are so atmospheric. sounds like real screams! wow!
👀🤷🏾♂️some people just don't have the patience to use bandlab
Bandlab has improved a lottttt, and ive found that many ppl can make beats with it that are indistinguishable from those of more complex DAWs like FL or ableton or logic!
sure, there are many limitations but its still pretty good :3
Being an ex-BandLab user I can say this video is 100 percent accurate lol
Try cakewalk, it’s basically the full daw pro version of bandlab
Band lab has the good stuffs in it. Not all.
But you need to find it and bring them together...and make a pro out of it.
this for sure, heard a lot of good songs come out of bandlab, it may not be elite but it is powerful when you know what to do
Not me laughing at the music video at the end
My man complained the whole time but made a banger??
Yes, yes he did
It feels relieving hearing the "no's" when he was looking for beats and synthesizers on bandlab, cause whenever I'm on it I thought I was the pickiest person with the options lmaooooo