I think it depends on the style ... Pro one goes perfect with a more repetitive style like Slap House or Brazilian Bass... The God one definitely fits a more complex one like Electro Swing or Melodic Dubstep I would say
@@jonathanridinger2208 I'd like to say that melodic dubstep doesn't need this much complexe rhythm of notes. Most of the time, the notes will be long to support the length of the chord rhythm, but that's just my opinion
I'm NOT one of those people who think the more complex a song is the better it sounds... most of the time simplicity is golden. Music is all about pleasing the ear... Not confusing the ear
I think that God one will be better when layered with other types of instrument, like leads, violins, and others. The Pro one feels better in a single layer to me.
electronic trance music 101: noob with hi pass filter for 4 bars noob with hi pass opened for 8 bars impact sound with white noise 4 bars while pro builds first drop with pro opened up with some different varieties of notes 8 bars lull for 8 with noob build with pro second drop with Godmode engaged 3 minutes of the drum track to bleed into the next one
Knowing complexity is important, since it opens up new combinations, but I think the godly part comes from knowing how to fit things well together and deliver that load to strike through someone's heart. You can learn 10 martial art moves, but to defeat someone, you need to understand how and when to use them for best effects.
The one thing I loooooooove in this is the fact that this a fully composed song and each "stage" is just a different key part of the song broken down: verse, pre-chorus and chorus.
4:40 Hello guys! welcome to my new minecraft tutorial. today we're gonna be making a flying machine with slimes and piston blocks edit: 7:56 *outro song starts playing softly* That's it for today's video guys, i hope you enjoyed and i'll see you in the next time, byeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! *outro song starts playing at a higher volume* jokes aside i miss 2012
lol the pro sounds like every other no copyright sounds track. Just need some Indian electronics tutorial using it as background music and we're complete.
Yeah beacause this video mean nothing, it’s full bullshit, he is just adding more instruments in the god version + you don’t need to know how to make very complicated midi melodies to do a good sound, a lot of real famous bangers are simple loops.
I finally know the proper order. Chords, bass, then melody. It’s always been unclear which one I should do first. I am a beginner, so thanks for this video
Layout a chord progression first, as a beginner it's probably best to stick with simple chords, like triads, diminished, or 7ths, rather than the more complex ones, 9ths, sus2, sus4, 11ths, diminished 7ths, augmented 7ths. Then you can either do bass or melody first, but melody is usually better to create first. Making a melody is pretty much just experimenting, but as a beginner you can just use the notes from the chords like in the video, (but that can get old fast).
@@handel671 Yes, I agree. Harmony is almost always made after the melody since it acts as an accompianate. Though, I should have mentioned harmony in my first reply, because it is very important.
When you create a melody you create a chord progression behind it as well. Your basic chords will follow on each root note change of your melody. From there you can really mess with where chords change and such adding bass etc
I thank God and TH-cam for bringing you into my life. I am just starting my career as a music producer and I am going to watch all your videos. Subscribed and also follow your course.
There's this misconception that "more complex = better composition" when that's completely wrong. I've been making complex melodies but it hasn't made my music any better, it just becomes noise. I think note choice is what makes melodies good, not how many grace notes and crap you add in the song. People need to get out of the mindset of "better and worse" for art, cause all it does is confuse people like me and make the experience suck for them due to contradictory advice making a person spiral out of control. I prided my work in being complex but then I see friends of mine who just make a simple song and it shits all over mine. Same shit goes for mixing "This'll be the last this or that" NO, it'll never be then end, cause learning shit like this is never ending torture. Then you're going to get into a mindset of not taking any advice cause some know it all likes to preach like they have some sacred insight on it when in reality are just arrogant people with a god complex. It's annoying.
A lot of people are saying God mode went too hard, but change the genre to something else and those melodic changes work pretty well. The melody sounds like it could fit in J-rock, especially the starting bit in the third bar.
We can't compare, actually it depends on the genre and what your project needs in a specified moment. There's many projects that the 'noob' one suits them more with it's existing elements.
Good video showing the levels of experience tiers. Although it can be argued that none of the samples are garbage, not even the "noob" one. It just takes the right application of it to make it golden. Honestly with each progression from noob to god you made, things just kept changing so drastically, each level was saying a different emotion altogether. Like you don't know what you want to go for. The noob one was somber and calm, the pro one was like a modern hype, cowboy saloon and God one was like some anime emotional bit. They didn't even relate the same stories musically. While music theory does separate noobs from pros alone, just from an understanding level. Ear training is another story that noobs with no theory knowledge can be naturally better at than a trained musician writing complex pieces that just have zero true emotion to it or sense of originality. It really boils down to how good you are at creating a certain emotion with a certain sound. Whether you're writing a full story or just one page of a singular raw emotion, so to say. Know what you're trying to make first on an emotional sense before letting your ear pick out what it thinks will sound cool with what. You just won't be creative if your not in the emotional proper space in the first place and your brain is doing the work instead.
Thank you for the excellent fl studio lesson😄 I am a student learning fl studio all by myself and for some people, it's just an interesting video comparing the level of melodies but for me, your codes and melodies really gave me a good lesson on how to make a good edm melody
6:59 ngl the God level melody feels like the saloon pianoman is just jamming over there in the corner, "ayy, toss that guy a tip will ya". So, a tip to you good sir 🪙
I think that a good melody doesn't need to be complex but it needs to be long. Long melodies keep you interested because it's not a boring repetitive loop playing over and over again.
A lot of the time i make progressions by layering a bunch of melodies, and if i do it in a controlled enough way thats how i can form the chord progressions. Theres definitely a lot more ways to make progressions than just these methods, dont be afraid to experiment
The number one thing when writing or arranging parts like this to remember is "can this instrument actually play this". For example, if you have more than 10 notes going on with a piano, or if they are spanning more than 2-3 octaves, it won't sound real because its literally impossible to play that on the actual instrument. If the god level was split up between multiple instruments it might sound ok, but having it just be a piano is why it sounds so awkward.
hearing pro level reminded me of something, then i saw the reverse sample named "wait for you remake". pls upload wait for you remake and also come to brazil pls
Normally if you're using 7 chords man you want to take advantage of that leading tone which is the 7 note. You can't just slap chords onto it. It has to harmonize, thinking of the root and what mode you want your phrase to be in. Also the chords in the beginning was just kind of too short. The counter melody could've filled that in a little bit more. However mixed in with the electronic synths it sounded slightly better. I would've however, used different sounding synths though because a part doesn't always sound good on one instrument but can sound good on another. It also may feel a bit unnatural because keep in mind about phrasing, space, and transition runs. Needs to flow, and float better. learning a woodwind instrument or how to compose for one can normally help with that. It's a little too short for god level. But that was a nice try with god level. I'd just thought I'd clear that up because complex melodies can sound great and I can see this working if it had more time spent on it.
Tl;dr Music theory is a descriptive practice, not a prescriptive one. True, for western functional harmony, and maybe just as so for this specific video's style of music. The music theory that is widely known and taught in music schools is for common practice period music -- Even just staying in English culture there is different theories/analysis/systems for the idea of music, some Jazz, rock, blues, metal; to post-tonal theory with schenkerian analysis, transformational theory, set theory (music), microtonality, xenharmony, to name a few if you would like to research more into it. And that's not even touching other cultures of Mongolian, Middle Eastern, Bulgarian, Indian, to which I know nothing about myself. Just remember that music is just… art. You can really do whatever you want, i.e. if it sounds good then it sounds good. Quote from Harry Partch (?): Music, "good" or not "good," has only two ingredients that might be called God-given: the capacity of a body to vibrate and produce sound and the mechanism of the human ear that registers it. These two ingredients can be studied and analyzed, but they cannot be changed; they are the comparative constants. All else in the art of music, which may also be studied and analyzed, was created by man or is implicit in human acts and is therefore subject to the fiercest scrutiny, and ultimately to approval, indifference, or contempt. In other words, all else is subject to change.
@@tauntos Oh yeah I know this. My music teacher taught me that there are no rules in music. There's no formula. Music theory is just there to help you, not tell you what to do. I recommend to go to Ian Ring's website and you'll be able to find all 3000+ scales which is every single note combination. Music theory is just there to help you with what sounds you want
@@chopholtz4950 Maybe record what you play using a smart phone or other recording device. Then you don't need to remember it and you won't lose your songs.
Honestly the first melody isn't noobish. It's just simple, and sometimes it's important to keep melodies simple. And for the god mode, I think you were trying too hard.
This is cool, I actually like the pro one the most, though all came out pretty good! Next all you gotta do is put them together, something like Noob>Pro>God>Pro>Noob and you got a banger
For the god level chords, the first and 2nd bars were 👌👌, but after that I think too much was going on 😢 Also I love the baseline in the god level chords
honestly, i think just the 3rd bar of god level was weird. like the 4th bar seems to lead pretty good into the 1st bar but obviously it's very subjective
@@grantcanty7294 it is supposed to feel a bit "strange", to spice things up. I believe it's taking the melody into the relative minor scale or something like that. The leading tone is also syncopated, meaning that, in theory, that second note should've been shorter and the third one should've been longer, but they swapped their duration, giving it more energy.
if you think of it as a piano piece the GOD level works really well. its enjoyable imo but for edm pro is def best (i still really enjoyed God level finished)
maybe the god version played on a piano with more velocity sensitivity could work though? here everything is kinda hit with the same strength so maybe it doesn't do it justice for me on the piano only version
I agree with those that say the pro one sounds better than the god one. I noticed there was some dissonance in some of those chords used, though I'm sure the mistakes were unintentional.
imo first half of the god melody (so the 1st and 2nd bar) has a lot of potential, after second bar it's going in too unexpected directions. Great job Memphy tho! Btw... could you make a video on how to make a track in like short time (10 days for example)
you are now legit my favorite music tutorial tuber, it short, and yet very informative like skip all the basic and just go srtaight for the tips and trick, it's very educational and funny at the same time, making me want to watch it more
This was helpful thanks. I noticed that you could also potentially use the different levels as a way to vary the energy/intensity in different sections.
Whilst this is a useful instructive video for teaching complete beginners how to make their melodies more interesting, the level demonstrated at 'God level' is still very simplistic. If you're basing writing melody around the idea that the initial melodic phrase will only be one bar and that you're going to just do subsequent one bar variations of that initial phrase for each subsequent bar over four bars without further exploring how to develop compelling melodic ideas in the first place your music will be, to be completely blunt, pretty generic sounding. Whilst this is could be a useful starting point for complete beginners to get started I don't know how good it is to teach beginners the idea that writing good melodies is as rigid and formulaic as this when it's not. It actually can be much more creative, fun and rewarding.
Honestly Chop, I was pretty fair to this video in my original post. Even as a starting point for a beginner this still gets beginners off to a bad start because instead of teaching them this, you could instead teach them some very basic ideas about rhythm and cadence and that would put them in a far better position to write enjoyable and unique music from the very beginning. On the contrary, this video doesn't really show a beginner how to compose music as such, it just shows them how to compose the same one song over and over again in a way that has already been done a million times before. Just because someone's a beginner, that's no reason for why they should be seeking to write identikit and uninteresting music from the beginning. Generally, you don't learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning how to write cookie cutter music first, you learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning about it bit by bit and composing as you go along.
@@riffmason I'm not particularly advanced but I have made a small handful of good tracks, have like 2 years of production experience and 6 of DJing. It gave me a different perspective on melody writing, because that pro one sounds pretty darn good while still just being a one-bar melody with some variation attached to it. I usually find that I go too complex a lot of the time, it can definitely be good to keep it simple and formulaic, especially if you want to go for something catchy.
@@LillyAnneMeadows Hi, I only took issue with simplicity in the context that this video was advertising the composition in the video as being 'God level' composition as if it was somehow expert composition writing which I thought was misleading. Really my problem isn't simplicity but the issue of being formulaic which I did then discuss. As good as you might think the pro example sounds (which I don't being completely honest), it is a problem for producers to make music this formulaic because the issue they will then have is that their music just isn't going to stand out and is going to sound boring and generic. If a producer makes a song so formulaic that it sounds exactly like other songs that have been done by other producers over and over again already, then why even bother listening to that producer when I could just listen to plenty of other producers instead?
Like you're not wrong, but dude haha. Like it is complex, depending on view amongst other things. Taking the base of everything away, listening to the overall sound link like strings with subtle hooks. Like the sound is complex regardless of how 'generic' it is. And you do realise you sound like you have like the biggest ego Like you think you are super smart for knowing some music stuff lmao - not trying to be provocative but damn dude. And like for the last comment you sent, like yeah you're not wrong, but its taught with a generalized meaning. Like its not to teach what to do for your entire melody, its advice and tips let alone not the point of the video, but he decided to add tips and advice because hes a GC. Not 'do this 4 times, copy paste use for everything song complete' I never got the rigid and formulaic feeling because creativity isn't meant to be constricted with those types of things, but its a very good generalized base to start from. You have seen this too much from a literal and specific view point. Like you expected to see more complexity of a type that you know, rather than in a way you might not think, your too literal and wrong in many ways as you are right. He was being general and you took it literally, like dude. You're quite tunnel visioned thought wise, I do hope you come to work through that - truly.
Great! Can you tell me a bit more about the kick and snare patterns in this song? I'm curious about how they were programmed/played. And in advance, They sound awesome!
Un consejo que siempre les daré que me dio uno de los mejores profesores que he tenido en la vida es que en la industria musical lo que más importa es hacer que las cosas parezcan fáciles pero que desde su trasfondo posea complejidad. me explico, Hans Zimmer era consiente de la simplicidad de sus obras pero el contexto dado era más que perfecto y eso es lo que verdadera mente importa, siempre habrán dioses musicales en términos de armonización, ritmo, melodía etc, pero la música es para momentos, contextos y gustos. Comprar el arte de manera objetiva no tiene ningun sentido.
Dude You really deserver to be as good as Alan Walker. Your music is really good Im not even capping right now. You should make some music because just looking at your video here, you did some really good chords in like 5 seconds so I believe that if you did do music you would never fail for sure Keep the good music up. And by the way you deserve much more subscribers. Road to a Million subs. :)😀😀😀
How complicated your melodies are has NOTHING to do with how good you are as a producer. The greatest beats of all time Mostly use simple chord progressions and like 3 sounds.
Yep, I think some people think it's impressive, but once you know even the most basic music theory it's not that hard to slap a bunch of notes onto it in the scale
I’m gonna try fl studio free version if I like it I’ll ask for full version for Christmas. One question though. When you pay for the full version is a subscription, or a one time purchase?
God level is literally Roblox tycoon music
holy shit you’re right
😭😭😭
i was abouta say
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this is cursed, but I agree XD
My fav is the pro one. The God one is way too complex, because the chords are kinda confusing to me.
You just haven’t ascended yet
honestly i think the base melody for the pro one is just better
I think it depends on the style ... Pro one goes perfect with a more repetitive style like Slap House or Brazilian Bass...
The God one definitely fits a more complex one like Electro Swing or Melodic Dubstep I would say
@@jonathanridinger2208 I'd like to say that melodic dubstep doesn't need this much complexe rhythm of notes. Most of the time, the notes will be long to support the length of the chord rhythm, but that's just my opinion
A melody doesn’t need a lot of effort to be good
Well I think even the noob one isn't bad I guess it just depends on how much energy you want in your drop, sometimes very simple melodies fit well too
Not just sometimes, but pretty much always, almost every viral song has a simple melody
Yeah
@@Astro_retired yea a simple melody can help your brain remember it.
@@Astro_retired dont complicate it makes sense here
I think using both complex and simple melodies in a song is the best option because using only simple melodies can make the song repetitive.
Just learn music..
This guy knows music theory.
says who?
Because I didn't spot ANY of the classical music composing methods here
@@rayfightermusic theory is more than classical music
This the type of music that goes behind a free robux video
first thing i thought of tbh
I feel like I just walked into a saloon in 1800
Fax
I'm NOT one of those people who think the more complex a song is the better it sounds... most of the time simplicity is golden. Music is all about pleasing the ear... Not confusing the ear
Dont worry your ear gets smarter after a while
@@nikolozparulava3169 I'm 40. It's all down hill from here
jazz.
Which is why I think the 2nd level sounded the best and more pleasing.
Surprise Surprise it's DUBSTEP🔥😂
I think that God one will be better when layered with other types of instrument, like leads, violins, and others. The Pro one feels better in a single layer to me.
The disonnance at the beginning of the god melody also doesn't do it for me
@@Whysp You're exactly right
@@Whysp that's on purpose but yeah
@@wobblestone3148I get that it's on purpose but it just doesn't work for me.
@@Whysp maybe the god melody sounds better with other instruments but I understand you
How to make song:
Step 1 - make a intro using the nob style
Step 2 - make a build up with the pro style
Step 3 - make a GOD drop! :)
and an outtro being a softer variation of all 3
@@carltonsmith4750 lol
invite you this music th-cam.com/video/B7EEFJfbdk8/w-d-xo.html
Actually, that isn't a bad idea.
electronic trance music 101:
noob with hi pass filter for 4 bars
noob with hi pass opened for 8 bars
impact sound with white noise 4 bars while pro builds
first drop with pro opened up with some different varieties of notes 8 bars
lull for 8 with noob
build with pro
second drop with Godmode engaged
3 minutes of the drum track to bleed into the next one
Knowing complexity is important, since it opens up new combinations, but I think the godly part comes from knowing how to fit things well together and deliver that load to strike through someone's heart.
You can learn 10 martial art moves, but to defeat someone, you need to understand how and when to use them for best effects.
The one thing I loooooooove in this is the fact that this a fully composed song and each "stage" is just a different key part of the song broken down: verse, pre-chorus and chorus.
4:40 Hello guys! welcome to my new minecraft tutorial. today we're gonna be making a flying machine with slimes and piston blocks
edit: 7:56 *outro song starts playing softly* That's it for today's video guys, i hope you enjoyed and i'll see you in the next time, byeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! *outro song starts playing at a higher volume*
jokes aside i miss 2012
what the pro songs name? sorry for asking
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@pawoxesports6105he made that on the spot no official name I don’t think
@@randoman9122 that was used on so many peoples back ground song remember?
@@pawoxesports6105 oh I didn’t know 😅
lol the pro sounds like every other no copyright sounds track. Just need some Indian electronics tutorial using it as background music and we're complete.
Lmao
they all sound like that tbh
Love the "pro" one. It sounds really simple but really energetic and powerful, catchy at the same time. Really love to listen to it again. Cheers!
super alan walker/NCS esq
7:38 FULL SONG
I like noob one ....
Same
Yea,I think that is most nice to listen
🐻
Yeah beacause this video mean nothing, it’s full bullshit, he is just adding more instruments in the god version + you don’t need to know how to make very complicated midi melodies to do a good sound, a lot of real famous bangers are simple loops.
@@turbozamallproductionsi’d add to this that being good doesnt mean playing complex things but knowing how to make simple things good and interesting
The pro melody sounds perfect for tropical house. the best one imo. Adding triplets to the lead melody would've been even better
Actually, I think that the god melody works the best for tropical house
Fatrat vibes 😇❤️
I finally know the proper order. Chords, bass, then melody. It’s always been unclear which one I should do first. I am a beginner, so thanks for this video
Layout a chord progression first, as a beginner it's probably best to stick with simple chords, like triads, diminished, or 7ths, rather than the more complex ones, 9ths, sus2, sus4, 11ths, diminished 7ths, augmented 7ths. Then you can either do bass or melody first, but melody is usually better to create first. Making a melody is pretty much just experimenting, but as a beginner you can just use the notes from the chords like in the video, (but that can get old fast).
@@displayclayton3407 thank you :)
@@displayclayton3407 sometimes the melody comes first and then the harmony
@@handel671 Yes, I agree. Harmony is almost always made after the melody since it acts as an accompianate. Though, I should have mentioned harmony in my first reply, because it is very important.
When you create a melody you create a chord progression behind it as well. Your basic chords will follow on each root note change of your melody. From there you can really mess with where chords change and such adding bass etc
Trance tracks from 1997-2005 = *G O D*
I thank God and TH-cam for bringing you into my life. I am just starting my career as a music producer and I am going to watch all your videos. Subscribed and also follow your course.
Good luck with your career!
There's this misconception that "more complex = better composition" when that's completely wrong. I've been making complex melodies but it hasn't made my music any better, it just becomes noise. I think note choice is what makes melodies good, not how many grace notes and crap you add in the song. People need to get out of the mindset of "better and worse" for art, cause all it does is confuse people like me and make the experience suck for them due to contradictory advice making a person spiral out of control. I prided my work in being complex but then I see friends of mine who just make a simple song and it shits all over mine. Same shit goes for mixing "This'll be the last this or that" NO, it'll never be then end, cause learning shit like this is never ending torture. Then you're going to get into a mindset of not taking any advice cause some know it all likes to preach like they have some sacred insight on it when in reality are just arrogant people with a god complex. It's annoying.
God+ mode:
Strip out the excess until all that is left is what's required to imply both the harmony and rhythm, and then dwell on tension
If I understand you correctly, that would be interesting af :O
A lot of people are saying God mode went too hard, but change the genre to something else and those melodic changes work pretty well. The melody sounds like it could fit in J-rock, especially the starting bit in the third bar.
GOD level melody kinda reminded me of Avicii 😀
Same
So wake me up when it's all over!
RIP
Feels like watching some TH-cam tutorial with copyright free music in the background ngl 🤣. Good work 👍
I love how you show how you made this in detail. It really helps for those (like me) who are trying to learn how to make better music
Man if u want to make better music just trust your inner sense and go with it
Not you're only good at music, your video editing skills are superb. I had fun watching it.
We can't compare, actually it depends on the genre and what your project needs in a specified moment. There's many projects that the 'noob' one suits them more with it's existing elements.
This proves that Memphy is a GODDDDDDD
Good video showing the levels of experience tiers.
Although it can be argued that none of the samples are garbage, not even the "noob" one. It just takes the right application of it to make it golden.
Honestly with each progression from noob to god you made, things just kept changing so drastically, each level was saying a different emotion altogether.
Like you don't know what you want to go for.
The noob one was somber and calm, the pro one was like a modern hype, cowboy saloon and God one was like some anime emotional bit. They didn't even relate the same stories musically.
While music theory does separate noobs from pros alone, just from an understanding level.
Ear training is another story that noobs with no theory knowledge can be naturally better at than a trained musician writing complex pieces that just have zero true emotion to it or sense of originality.
It really boils down to how good you are at creating a certain emotion with a certain sound. Whether you're writing a full story or just one page of a singular raw emotion, so to say.
Know what you're trying to make first on an emotional sense before letting your ear pick out what it thinks will sound cool with what.
You just won't be creative if your not in the emotional proper space in the first place and your brain is doing the work instead.
Thank you for the excellent fl studio lesson😄
I am a student learning fl studio all by myself and for some people,
it's just an interesting video comparing the level of melodies but for me,
your codes and melodies really gave me a good lesson on how to make a good edm melody
6:59 ngl the God level melody feels like the saloon pianoman is just jamming over there in the corner, "ayy, toss that guy a tip will ya". So, a tip to you good sir 🪙
I think that a good melody doesn't need to be complex but it needs to be long. Long melodies keep you interested because it's not a boring repetitive loop playing over and over again.
A lot of the time i make progressions by layering a bunch of melodies, and if i do it in a controlled enough way thats how i can form the chord progressions. Theres definitely a lot more ways to make progressions than just these methods, dont be afraid to experiment
2:22 hey what did you do when you "added some swing"? I'm new to making music and was wondering how you got the piano to sound like that.
i like the noob one it is chill and vibey while showing that anyone could lay down a few notes, and have a good time. Awesome Dude!
The number one thing when writing or arranging parts like this to remember is "can this instrument actually play this". For example, if you have more than 10 notes going on with a piano, or if they are spanning more than 2-3 octaves, it won't sound real because its literally impossible to play that on the actual instrument. If the god level was split up between multiple instruments it might sound ok, but having it just be a piano is why it sounds so awkward.
Wdym, you just play with your toes brah
hearing pro level reminded me of something, then i saw the reverse sample named "wait for you remake". pls upload wait for you remake and also come to brazil pls
i come brazil but pls first u send me all ur best flps for free i need for learning porpose only i promise
the god one sounds like something avicii would make. my god you've captured his spirit perfectly.
Is it just me or do these all sound like geometry dash music 🤣🤣
Normally if you're using 7 chords man you want to take advantage of that leading tone which is the 7 note. You can't just slap chords onto it. It has to harmonize, thinking of the root and what mode you want your phrase to be in. Also the chords in the beginning was just kind of too short. The counter melody could've filled that in a little bit more. However mixed in with the electronic synths it sounded slightly better. I would've however, used different sounding synths though because a part doesn't always sound good on one instrument but can sound good on another. It also may feel a bit unnatural because keep in mind about phrasing, space, and transition runs. Needs to flow, and float better. learning a woodwind instrument or how to compose for one can normally help with that. It's a little too short for god level. But that was a nice try with god level. I'd just thought I'd clear that up because complex melodies can sound great and I can see this working if it had more time spent on it.
Get a life
Tl;dr Music theory is a descriptive practice, not a prescriptive one.
True, for western functional harmony, and maybe just as so for this specific video's style of music. The music theory that is widely known and taught in music schools is for common practice period music -- Even just staying in English culture there is different theories/analysis/systems for the idea of music, some Jazz, rock, blues, metal; to post-tonal theory with schenkerian analysis, transformational theory, set theory (music), microtonality, xenharmony, to name a few if you would like to research more into it. And that's not even touching other cultures of Mongolian, Middle Eastern, Bulgarian, Indian, to which I know nothing about myself. Just remember that music is just… art. You can really do whatever you want, i.e. if it sounds good then it sounds good.
Quote from Harry Partch (?):
Music, "good" or not "good," has only two ingredients that might be called God-given: the capacity of a body to vibrate and produce sound and the mechanism of the human ear that registers it. These two ingredients can be studied and analyzed, but they cannot be changed; they are the comparative constants. All else in the art of music, which may also be studied and analyzed, was created by man or is implicit in human acts and is therefore subject to the fiercest scrutiny, and ultimately to approval, indifference, or contempt. In other words, all else is subject to change.
@@tauntos Oh yeah I know this. My music teacher taught me that there are no rules in music. There's no formula. Music theory is just there to help you, not tell you what to do. I recommend to go to Ian Ring's website and you'll be able to find all 3000+ scales which is every single note combination. Music theory is just there to help you with what sounds you want
@@chopholtz4950 HOLY CRAP HOW MUCH DID YOU WRITE
@@chopholtz4950 Maybe record what you play using a smart phone or other recording device. Then you don't need to remember it and you won't lose your songs.
When you are such a noob that even level 1 feels like pro... 😅😥
It's not noob actually. It's just simple. Sometimes simple is more effective than complicated
@@maximevanraemdonck1712 yess i liked the pro verison more than the god level,, but the thing is i am noob now 😥 it will take time ....
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I would like to hear Memphy's handmade full music 🤤
it's coming, eventually, soon, very soon, eventually, hopefully
@@Memphy can't wait for it :)
Bro There's A Song Called "Stay" By Memphy!!
I heard it before, it's very nice he needs people to hear his songs and get his fame like martin garrix
@@Memphy I'm not hopefull though, because all your music sounds like existing music..
I actually learnt a lot from this video. Also, the god one was my fav, it just sounded fuller, had more depth to it.
well this video turned out more useful than any of the youtube videos ive watched trying to make a melody.
The pro one is catchy! and the God level melody reminds me about my summer beach and joyful memories last April and May this year :)
The fact that three of them are Memphy himself is just amazing😂✌
Good job bro❤
Honestly the first melody isn't noobish. It's just simple, and sometimes it's important to keep melodies simple. And for the god mode, I think you were trying too hard.
This was very helpful for me, because I'm struggling with making melodies right now
This is cool, I actually like the pro one the most, though all came out pretty good!
Next all you gotta do is put them together, something like Noob>Pro>God>Pro>Noob and you got a banger
The pro one is more god than the god one actually
For the god level chords, the first and 2nd bars were 👌👌, but after that I think too much was going on 😢
Also I love the baseline in the god level chords
Yeah, simplicity is also godlike
honestly, i think just the 3rd bar of god level was weird. like the 4th bar seems to lead pretty good into the 1st bar but obviously it's very subjective
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@@grantcanty7294 it is supposed to feel a bit "strange", to spice things up. I believe it's taking the melody into the relative minor scale or something like that. The leading tone is also syncopated, meaning that, in theory, that second note should've been shorter and the third one should've been longer, but they swapped their duration, giving it more energy.
the real god is the person who can make an ultra noob melody to god level with his/her skills just like martin garrix and avicii
After he put swing, move the bass notes and played it, I instantly got the chills holy shiet that was good
this is that kind of music at a Noob Vs Pro Vs God video, especially the pro version 🤣🤣
if you think of it as a piano piece the GOD level works really well. its enjoyable imo
but for edm pro is def best
(i still really enjoyed God level finished)
it was the opposite for me haha it's great
maybe the god version played on a piano with more velocity sensitivity could work though? here everything is kinda hit with the same strength so maybe it doesn't do it justice for me on the piano only version
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You gotta add the 7th and 9th to the chords in the god track.
But very good video.
and a g sus chord
*3 Levels of Hardstyle Noob vs Pro vs Sub Zero Project would be great*
NAH you mean noob vs pro vs TEVVEZ
@@JustinCase05 not really sure because i don't know alot of tevvez tunes tbh
@@icecoldtristan6434 check him out then
This editing makes it 10x more enjoyable lmao 🤣👏🏽
I agree with those that say the pro one sounds better than the god one. I noticed there was some dissonance in some of those chords used, though I'm sure the mistakes were unintentional.
imo first half of the god melody (so the 1st and 2nd bar) has a lot of potential, after second bar it's going in too unexpected directions. Great job Memphy tho!
Btw... could you make a video on how to make a track in like short time (10 days for example)
I like the pro one more than the god level one though lol. I think the pro level one is like the perfect mix of complexity and simplicity
Good stuff man, very useful tutorial and well explained. Thank you for making content like this.
you are now legit my favorite music tutorial tuber,
it short, and yet very informative like skip all the basic and just go srtaight for the tips and trick, it's very educational and funny at the same time, making me want to watch it more
I'm a kind of noob solo pianist. this video helped me a lot when improvising or making songs
Thx a lot :)
4:16 is giving off undertale boss fight vibes
love the god one, really well done man reminds me of some japanese edm, bass breakdowns are always nice
yeah exactly what I was thinking ! it sounds like Japanese edm!
This was helpful thanks. I noticed that you could also potentially use the different levels as a way to vary the energy/intensity in different sections.
Personal opinion but in piano, 3>2>1. However, the order was reversed in the song forms to 1>2>3.
omg the three levels fit so perfectly good together!
Whilst this is a useful instructive video for teaching complete beginners how to make their melodies more interesting, the level demonstrated at 'God level' is still very simplistic. If you're basing writing melody around the idea that the initial melodic phrase will only be one bar and that you're going to just do subsequent one bar variations of that initial phrase for each subsequent bar over four bars without further exploring how to develop compelling melodic ideas in the first place your music will be, to be completely blunt, pretty generic sounding. Whilst this is could be a useful starting point for complete beginners to get started I don't know how good it is to teach beginners the idea that writing good melodies is as rigid and formulaic as this when it's not. It actually can be much more creative, fun and rewarding.
Honestly Chop, I was pretty fair to this video in my original post. Even as a starting point for a beginner this still gets beginners off to a bad start because instead of teaching them this, you could instead teach them some very basic ideas about rhythm and cadence and that would put them in a far better position to write enjoyable and unique music from the very beginning.
On the contrary, this video doesn't really show a beginner how to compose music as such, it just shows them how to compose the same one song over and over again in a way that has already been done a million times before. Just because someone's a beginner, that's no reason for why they should be seeking to write identikit and uninteresting music from the beginning. Generally, you don't learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning how to write cookie cutter music first, you learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning about it bit by bit and composing as you go along.
@@riffmason I'm not particularly advanced but I have made a small handful of good tracks, have like 2 years of production experience and 6 of DJing. It gave me a different perspective on melody writing, because that pro one sounds pretty darn good while still just being a one-bar melody with some variation attached to it. I usually find that I go too complex a lot of the time, it can definitely be good to keep it simple and formulaic, especially if you want to go for something catchy.
@@LillyAnneMeadows Hi, I only took issue with simplicity in the context that this video was advertising the composition in the video as being 'God level' composition as if it was somehow expert composition writing which I thought was misleading. Really my problem isn't simplicity but the issue of being formulaic which I did then discuss. As good as you might think the pro example sounds (which I don't being completely honest), it is a problem for producers to make music this formulaic because the issue they will then have is that their music just isn't going to stand out and is going to sound boring and generic. If a producer makes a song so formulaic that it sounds exactly like other songs that have been done by other producers over and over again already, then why even bother listening to that producer when I could just listen to plenty of other producers instead?
Like you're not wrong, but dude haha. Like it is complex, depending on view amongst other things. Taking the base of everything away, listening to the overall sound link like strings with subtle hooks. Like the sound is complex regardless of how 'generic' it is.
And you do realise you sound like you have like the biggest ego Like you think you are super smart for knowing some music stuff lmao - not trying to be provocative but damn dude.
And like for the last comment you sent, like yeah you're not wrong, but its taught with a generalized meaning. Like its not to teach what to do for your entire melody, its advice and tips let alone not the point of the video, but he decided to add tips and advice because hes a GC. Not 'do this 4 times, copy paste use for everything song complete'
I never got the rigid and formulaic feeling because creativity isn't meant to be constricted with those types of things, but its a very good generalized base to start from. You have seen this too much from a literal and specific view point. Like you expected to see more complexity of a type that you know, rather than in a way you might not think, your too literal and wrong in many ways as you are right. He was being general and you took it literally, like dude. You're quite tunnel visioned thought wise, I do hope you come to work through that - truly.
@@riffmason Like "whY iSNt THis A pRopPER BegGinERs TuTOriAL!?"
5:07 The music is insane !
I really like the pro one. The God one seems forced, to me; it feels like there is too much...sounds messy. Pro is where it is at.
Great! Can you tell me a bit more about the kick and snare patterns in this song? I'm curious about how they were programmed/played. And in advance, They sound awesome!
A noob watching the advanced noob and I'm like wooooooow 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 just the small offset alone hahah
dude if 1:58 was noob. then idk what iam
😂😂😂😂
Real
4:43 sounds like ncs
looped the pro one for like 20 times i love it 7:55
Keep up the amazing work!
first two are real dope, made me smile, happy to sub for more of this
Un consejo que siempre les daré que me dio uno de los mejores profesores que he tenido en la vida es que en la industria musical lo que más importa es hacer que las cosas parezcan fáciles pero que desde su trasfondo posea complejidad. me explico, Hans Zimmer era consiente de la simplicidad de sus obras pero el contexto dado era más que perfecto y eso es lo que verdadera mente importa, siempre habrán dioses musicales en términos de armonización, ritmo, melodía etc, pero la música es para momentos, contextos y gustos. Comprar el arte de manera objetiva no tiene ningun sentido.
A good melody stands on it's own. It incorporates rhythm and harmony all by itself.
I do appreciate the #Deathstep tag
wops lol
Dude You really deserver to be as good as Alan Walker. Your music is really good Im not even capping right now. You should make some music because just looking at your video here, you did some really good chords in like 5 seconds so I believe that if you did do music you would never fail for sure Keep the good music up. And by the way you deserve much more subscribers. Road to a Million subs. :)😀😀😀
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thas that NCS type beat
The Pro Version is marvelous one ... I love it
when you realize that noob version is better then god one 💀
"Calling" from ingrosso and alesso showed us, simplicity is awesome
Bro, this guy’s a genius, how’s he not famous??
Did you hear how good the pro one was?
thats roblox tycoon ahh type beat bro
1:46 Noob Results
This pro i think.
It Says Noob
Omg this helped so much as I am just starting my music journey. I literally a noob-. This was so helped and fun.
level 3 sounds like it's coming straight out of anime😂😂 love it!!!!
I Honestly Know Why The Song Sounds Like A Roblox Song
Bro fr fr
4:40 Pro Results
I like song the pro
THANK YOU SO MUCH! The noob melody made things so much easier for my smooth brain
OMG I think I'm not even in a noob level 😅 you're so awesome, congrats for your talent
How complicated your melodies are has NOTHING to do with how good you are as a producer. The greatest beats of all time Mostly use simple chord progressions and like 3 sounds.
Yep, I think some people think it's impressive, but once you know even the most basic music theory it's not that hard to slap a bunch of notes onto it in the scale
I’m gonna try fl studio free version if I like it I’ll ask for full version for Christmas. One question though. When you pay for the full version is a subscription, or a one time purchase?