Except he isn't being honest. He's lying. He was never a christian, or he never would have stopped being so. He was a rapper who was offerred money by a "christian" music label to pretend to be christian to sell music. Now he just doesn't want to pretend anymore.
Sad. I’ve been there. But the Holy Spirit that lives in me convicted me hard and made me repent. I wept bitterly like Peter did when he denied Jesus three times. This life will shake your faith hard. I understand why people lose their faith. But if you truly are saved, Jesus will come for you. The spirit will convict you. You can’t escape. I hope and pray this will be the case for this man.
"you can't escape" Amen. It's on this truth I hang my hope. Being unable to escape means the Master's grip is unreleasable and to have that grip hold me is my deepest desire.
This is still heartbreaking. I only came here because I just listened to him on a Da Truth song just now. Intellect and man's wisdom will not make the Word of God make sense! It take the Spirit of God to unveil who Jesus is! Not our academics and apologetics! I am praying for Hosea 6:23 and Joel 2:23-28 to take place for my brother and in this land in Jesus name! Shalom.
Blessed be God forever 🙌🙂 Jesus Christ is Lord forever 🙌😊 Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🙌😊 Amen. Truly, I believe the Bible is really Real, the Bible is the Blessed Word of God, the Holy Scriptures are true. Yet, at the same time, I do not view the Scriptures as everyone else does, but I do believe that I have the accurate view of Scriptures, by the grace of God and to His glory, as does the thousands of other different divisions of Christian assemblies. So, I think that often the problem is that people leave (or call themselves leaving) the Christian faith because they don't view the Bible as the Baptists, or as the Apostolics, or as the Pentecostals, or as the Methodists, or whatever other denomination or non denominational church that they were a part of believes the Bible. But we need to understand that we don't have to believe the Bible as everyone else believes it, we need to believe the Bible as God Himself reveals the Bible to us. The difference is the Born again experience. When you have a true Born again experience in which the Holy Spirit comes into your heart and transforms your life, No doctrine can ever take that away from you. No understanding or misunderstanding or interpretation or wrong or right or whatever type of interpretation of the Bible that you have can ever take away that Born again experience. Blessed be the Name of the Lord! You have that experience, so whenever someone tries to challenge the Christian faith (and I get challenged all the time through the verbal or written combat of non-believers), all I have to do is go back to my Born again experience. All I have to do is go back to when Jesus Christ empowered me with the Holy Spirit and my entire life was changed, my thoughts change, my words change, my deeds changed, and it was an overpowering effect so that I could not control the change: all I did was believe the Word of God and God began to transform me so dramatically and so miraculously no doctrine can never take that away. It's a lifetime memory. And God continues and have continued to work in my life answering my prayers and showing me miracle after miracle and moving mountain after mountain and giving healing after healing through prayer and through faith. And not only so but there's a place in His Presence (God's Holy and Glorious Presence) that's so different that to not dwell there for any period of time results in a different attitude, results in different thoughts, and results in feeling like a fish out of water, so you are compelled to dwell there all the time because that joy and that peace and that love and that glory is not found anywhere else. Much love in Christ Jesus forever Apostle Thaddeus The Ministry of Pure Truth All glory be to God forever 🙌😊 Praise Christ Jesus forever 🙌😊 Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🙌😊 Amen.
“30 years…” What a sad and sobering reminder to always remain vigilant against self-deceit and the wiles of Satan whom Scripture describes as “a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.”
I honestly don’t understand him. I mean the story of Abraham and Isaac is right at the beginning in Genesis. If you cannot come to grips with the fact that God may often times be incomprehensible to our finite understanding, that He isn’t going to line up into your moral frame work, but that He is the potter and you are the Clay and it is the height of arrogance to expect God to comform to what you see as righteous and just and fair and “equitable”, but rather it’s supposed to be the other way around you comform to the King’s standards of goodness
This doesn’t add up. Huh, it looks like there’s an older flood narrative by 1400 years in the epic of Gilgamesh, and lots of psalms to Yahweh are stolen from the Baal cycle written nine hundred years before the Bible. Oh no, archeologists keep finding seals of Israelite kings who were supposed to only worship Yahweh that Egyptian gods all over them. Oh no the euthyphro dilemma has convinced me that a god cannot be triomni. I guess I should just pray more, as if I didn’t do that upwards of 5 hours a day.
“Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy (delusion) comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,” 2 Thessalonians 2:3 NASB Paul Washer said it many years ago that the biggest mission field in the world is the church. Boy was he right. I do have respect for this man that he is walking away and not faking it.
The test is of faith, lean not to your own understanding, but we still must not work evil and let God work through us. Faith works by love, and love(God) never fails. If any man loves Him, the same is known of Him.
Honestly, I wish more unbelievers were willing to be this honest. Praying he can be led to repentance but, like some other commenters have said, it’s refreshing that he is honest and has removed himself from the church.
But it's because of Christians and the demonization of unbelievers that people don't feel they can be open and honest. Help to foster a culture where unbelievers can feel fine being open about their true beliefs instead of pressuring them to lie.
I don't like that he is not being specific about the "issues". Sounds like he had not been in the Scriptures for a while. That said, I do appreciate him being honest and leaving the body alone.
I would agree. The whole time he spoke and mentioned "issues" I audibly reply "List them. What are they?" My greatest fear would be he had misgivings that weren't addressed by those over him; that the mature of his church leaders wasn't great enough to lead him to clarity.
@@naterock369 right. "Come let's reason together." If all you have are "issues", you don't have to be challenged and taught and called to repent and believe. And unfortunately, you are probably right about his church leaders. My hope is that he didn't bring the issues to them, not that they couldn't explain.
They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. I John 2:19
Let him go on his journey. It's a different path for everyone. God knows his. And it really isn't any of our place to make the judgment as to whether he is or isn't. God bless him and be with him as he walks this walk.
Don't pray for him for 2 reasons. 1. He didn't ask you to. There's nothing wrong with him. 2. Prayer doesn't work, it's all in your head and only makes you feel better.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion 💯 I love how you respond and remind these people in the comments that they need to face reality and let go of the fairy tales.
The depth of his sadness in getting the words out says a lot more than just, ‘I’m worried about how this might make others feel’. He knows, in his spirit, that this is grievous. Does he at any point specifically say what in the scriptures he had a problem with?
Watched the whole vid, don't think he did. I think it's all high-level academic stuff so probably getting into it for an initial video would've been going too far into the weeds.
@@WokePreacherClips yeah that would have been awfully dull - they think it’s exciting and fresh, of course, and totally revolutionary. But as per Chesterton, heresy is never adventurous; it’s always just boring and lazy. In any case, I feel a great sadness for him. Reminds me of what hebrews says about those who taste of the Lord’s goodness but deny the master that bought them. There’s a terrible tragedy to it - apostates often walk around like wraiths in the world, either biting and snapping at the faith, or grasping at meaning in sordid little hovels, all to regain the substance and form they once enjoyed.
He's realized he's spent 30 years teaching a myth. He didn't mention what the issues were because it's not a teaching video and he didn't want to mess with anyone else's faith. He said that if you listen to what he says and not what you want to hear.
Everyone’s journey in this life is different. If you can’t understand his journey, his path is not your path. If you aren’t still embracing him, even though he is learning who is as a person and where he is in his own personal journey, you are definitely part of the problem. I met this man at CRUvention in Orlando years and years ago. He is a good man. Not all who wander are lost.
You don't understand. When you make a public declaration denouncing Christ, just as you did when you were baptised, you are not wandering. You are lost. Worst still, you have in effect rejected Christ. Ask Judas Iscariot, who later repented or realised the evil of what he did, but couldn't trace his path back to Christ. The Apostle Peter clearly warns, "If we reject Him, He will reject us". The Lord said, "If you are ashamed of Me before men, I will be ashamed of before My Father..." It's that serious. No one here is trying to tear Brad to shreds for what he did. On the contrary, when a professed Christian denounces the faith, it shakes the confidence of others. It has a ripple effect. Thankfully, the faith of true followers of Christ doesn't depend on sound theological argument or knowledge. It is on the revelation of Christ the Church is built.
@@bishopakpan2284 I do understand. Some people have moved on from believing in fairly tales and others have not. If you still believe, that works for you. For those who have moved on from faith to live a more fuller life, allow them to be who they are. No one can ask Judas Iscariot anything, that’s even if he existed. To quote Gandalf “All that is good does not glitter. Not all those that wander are lost..” Lost to you doesn’t mean the same to everyone. Think about that before you speak.
@@bishopakpan2284 clearly I have some idea as to what I’m talking about. To dismiss me and my experience is almost what Timothy was saying in Timothy 4:12 as you are not showing yourself as an example. Rather than your condemnation, there may be some who are on the fence in these comments that would find your repudiations to be off putting and you have caused more damage to their faith than any non believer could ever.
CONGRATULATIONS to Phanatik! I too, denounced being a believer in 2016, and it was the best decision I ever made in my life. I tried to tell my mama as a child that lifestyle wasn't for me, but she wouldn't let me be free. I tried to go along with it but everything isn't for everybody. It's not coming from a place of hurt like so many believers assume. It was just me using logic &reasoning and common sense. I hope the best for this brother's new journey, because my life has never been better & so free.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion of course they don't and at this point it's best to act as if they're invisible, because really they are now. They're just walking in circles under the illusion they're going straight. Until they become AWARE if ever, they'll only see things as they were programmed to see. Meanwhile we're FREE & living life as it was meant to live.
@suitefleur are you going to pray for me, like people who pray to your god to stop the person that molested them. Pray for me like the person who prayed to your god to not be raped. Pray for me like my ancestors prayed to your god to stop slavery. Your god allows so much harm to happen, hell he won't destroy this devil he created. But will send people to this hell if they don't obey him. Yes please pray if you want to...🙄🤦🏿♀️
Good for him! ....the majority of so called "Christians" always talk about the bible being "true" but never want to talk about the truth regarding the bible....and the funny thing is that the problem ain't even the bible....the bible says what it says....the problem is what people SAY about the bible....things the bible itself never even claims.......NO it is not inerrant.... NO everything in it is not true.... YES it contains contradictions.....and instead of acknowledging these facts and having a real honest discussion about why the errors, contradictions and such are there, "Christians" ignore them and make weak excuses for them to try to convince themselves that they are not......based solely on what they "believe"......I wish this dude well on his journey... happy for him.....✌️💯💪🍷
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. -1 John 2:19
This dude is deep into his studies, so I’m not going to assume I understand his plight. My question, can we trust and believe in God, (accepting Christ), while understanding that we don’t fully understand the writings? And the conflicts that arise? If issues with the Bible is the name of this she was also with the concept that price and God exist?
This sucks man. All of the Christian music industry is deconstructing and leaving. Even Relient K is bringing Grace Baldridge (Semler) on tour, an openly homosexual progressive “Christian” who sings blasphemous music. It just gets more and more depressing.
@J L completely agree. Bands like The Almost, Underoath, Hawk Nelson, Relient K, Switchfoot, etc. It’s sort of become habit for me to just scroll through a band/artists Instagram page before regularly listening to their music. It’s often a good indicator of where they line up as Christians. Even if the stuff they support isn’t explicit in their music, they work it in slowly.
@Michael Ward Amen. I have family members (good Christians all) who lead the worship teams at their respective churches. The antics they get up to. The "congregation" just sits and never makes a peep while the worship team is caterwauling away. They are sincerely convinced that this is the way to worship. I no longer try to persuade them otherwise.
If you listen closely to his renunciation video, the original fissure began with the desire to disassociate himself from an evangelical Christian movement that has conflated itself with conservative political ideology in an unhealthy way that is opposed to the cause of Christ. I've often commented to friends that unbelievers particularly, but even those within the faith, would eventually begin to impute that conservative rhetoric to Christianity, as if it formed part of the faith, and wish to distance themselves from the faith itself. I'm afraid that is what was at least partially at play in phanatiks case. Body of Christ, please segregate your Christian walk from your secular associations; for the Kingdom's sake!
I hope he comes to the realization that outside of Christ whom he is now denouncing, there remains no other atonement for sin. I pray that he comes to his senses.
Another CCM artist deconstructs. Is CCM supposed to be part of the Great Commission or is it just allowing Christians to listen to their favorite genre of music without having to listen to pagan music? Isn't CCM managed by pagan record companies?
You don't know how much this stuff saddens me. I grew up on cross movement (especially ambassador), t-bone, gospel gangstaz, g.r.i.t.s, propaganda, kj-52, etc...n it seems like most "Christian artists" r just falling in line...I mean heck, eshon burgundy is now a Hebrew israelite...Kevin max from dc talk went this "deconstruction" route too n now believes in "the cosmic christ" which is 100% new age principle right out of books by Alice Bailey and Helena blavatsky....the first ppl i remember talking about deconstruction in the chh community were lecrae n andy mineo like 5-6 years ago n now it seems its only strengthened since then
@@ebonyharbut7641 I know...the only "Christian hip hop" artist i can recommend in good conscience is J. Monty these days, i dunno if you've ever heard of him...honestly most have seemed to have gone the deconstruction or prioritizing social justice over Christ and Biblical justice routes...it's literally most at this point, some to a further extent than another
Cmon Phanatik don’t be apart of the falling away! I pray you find the Lord again and don’t go the way of Cain. 🎶 Representing The Kingdom Theocratic It's the Phanatik Getting deep As if I was aquatic Nomadic The Son of Man Has no place to lay His Afro Sacred Taber-nacle Dwelling Prevaling Against the gates of hell and Sticking to the cross But without the use of nails And you say great is the mystery Mister we don't understand I'm stalking while I'm walking Through this winter wonderland With some Timberlands Trooping while I'm scooping out the Gospel Don't get hostle It's complex but it's not so Hard to understand But then again It is for some The mystery of the One Who is And was and is to come If I could rhyme for forever twice You would have have heard One-third Of the words That would serve To describe Christ Cause I believe what the text say Trust Christ in the end And you'll be in the cypha the next day 🎶 The Cross Movement Cypha the next day
What issues? Which ones, dude? Put what there? What problems are you talking about? I’ll say this: Any and every time I have seen someone leave the faith, they choose one of the mainstream “problems” typically raised by atheists. In this case, issues with the text, but it could have been the problem of evil or something else. But, in every case, the root issue is that they want to sin. The explanation they give is generally chosen to give themselves a veneer of credibility. But it has generally come down to the fact that they no longer want to live with a commitment to holiness unto the Lord. Instead, they want to be free from the pressure they feel to live a particular way as a Christian should, and instead desire to make moral compromises without the guilt that comes from knowing Jesus would not approve. Now, I’m not saying that is what is happening here. I can’t say because I don’t know this guy. But, anecdotally, this has been the consistent experience I have had over the last 25 years of ministry. Sad.
Yes, yes and yes. The theological "problems" are invariably a smokescreen for sinful inclinations. I remember when a well-known Moody professor jumped ship --- his study of the ancient languages of the bible supposedly led him to the shipwreck of his faith. My sister at that time said to me, "I guarantee you; he wanted to commit adultery and was looking for a way to give in." I was shocked by her statement. But as it turned out...she was right. Sin lies at the door. God help us to take heed lest we fall.
@@msmichelle2196or maybe they used to not due those things because they were Christian’s, but after their belief in the concept of sin collapsed, they chose to take part in behavior that would be considered sinful? You do know people genuinely change their mind. Is Satan inhabiting every single deconvert? Also if you keep losing massive groups of people to the same theological problems, is it possible it’s because Christianity has been failing to answer these challenges since ad 33?
Ok sooooo he basically said NOTHING I’m this clip! He didn’t present the passages that he’s having difficulties with; his denouncing of the faith over a few unanswered questions seem premature to me. As someone who’s been in the faith for 30 years as he stated, he ought to know by now that God is not obligated to make all things clear to us in the Bible. He gives us clarity on those things which are important and necessary for our salvation, there are and will continue to be mysteries in the faith. Why because God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts, his ways are above our ways. He needs for us to humble ourselves and trust him, trust that he means us good and not harm and that he will not keep any good thing from us as the scripture states.
Yes because he admitted that he really didn't know what was in the scriptures. How can you really know the fullness of God when you didn't know certain things were in the word of God. Which means he didn't really know what he was into????
That’s a very dishonest and cruel thing to say. I know it must make you feel better to think that, but the reality is he was a sincere believer, but he now he realizes it isn’t true. Be happy for him.
Make no mistake -- he is not just "denouncing the Christian faith. He is denouncing the Lord Jesus Christ. I think there is a good bit of "separation' going on.
MATTHEW 5:13: “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."
@Phanatik (Brady Goodwin): Thank you so much for the time and heart you gave to God! My son was impacted through The Cross Movement music and your lyrics, and is still today. I will share my thoughts on your denunciation: 1. God is always testing us. Otherwise, we would never know where our faith really is - what we really believe and Wood versus what we ascribe to. The testing is for US to know where we are, to align with God, using the tools he’s given. 2. Your new enlightenment reminds me of Adam and Eve’s story. Specifically, this verse: “..saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it…” I think your “tree” and “fruit” is humanity and humanism, whose premise is “man is the measure of all things” and “do as thou wilt.” The liberality you mentioned is the language of a desire to please man (including your mind/self) more than the Creator of man. “At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves… Then the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?” He replied, “I heard you walking in the garden, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked.” “Who told you that you were naked?” the Lord God asked. “Have you eaten from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat?”” Genesis 3:6-11 NLT I believe the scriptures that “jumped out at you”, after 30 years, are a result of something else that changed in your life experience that caused you to see God [Himself] differently and subsequently His word. Otherwise, your faith lens wouldn’t allow you to have a worldly consciousness. I appreciate you sharing this and I will definitely be in prayer, in God‘s mercy, that He will remember your [previous] devotion and be gracious and good enough to you [again] to cause you to respond to him in a way that would lead you to turn back and greater than ever before. Thankfully, God loves you ahead of your current state. There’s literally grace awaiting. I will just ask that you give God the openness that you have given liberality and humanism. Don’t think you’ve “arrived“ or “progressed” or “evolved”. Stay humble. Stay meek. It’s still in there-I can hear it. Thank you, again!
Would love some context of what he struggles with. Either way, it’s an issue of presuppositionalism. Starting with the triune God and moving forward. Hopefully people don’t swarm him with evidentialism because that’s gonna fall flat on it’s face.
2:19 What man?? Told him about all these issues hes never seen before in the bible .??? Who was that? ? Also, we are saved by Grace through faith not of ourselves (Ephesians 2:8-9) 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Man I wanna cry right now hearing this, this is so me, everything. You want to believe, you still love the gospels and yet you just can't bring yourself to. It is heartbreaking.
No. From this discussion with guys who are more plugged into the CHH world, it sounds like one of the issues is whether God is the author of evil: th-cam.com/video/Z4_qQh8Cf5M/w-d-xo.html
Hey, man! I Love you videos. Saw you talking about this guy in your last vid, so I had to check this out. I don't remember much about the Cross Movement, except that when I was like 10-11 y/o (I'm now 32), my mom got me their "Human Emergency" album, so that I could listen to "clean, Christ-worshiping hip hop". The intro track on that album still haunts me to this day. It's a ridiculous skit track, you may or may not remember it. It's sooo disturbing how it tries to scare you about the alleged impending doom of not having Christ in your life or whatever. It's actually sickening. NO child should ever listen to that. I love my mom, but she's misguided.
@@joshuaneal7552 Exactly the people who believe in this buybull nonsense are really the ones that are misguided, and they are so limited in their thinking and scared to study the real Christianity because history will prove it and them to be false. The esteemed Dr. Walter Williams said throw the bible and all religion(Islam, Judaism) in the nearest trash can.
@@misterkgb1 This is true. Can’t expect critical thinking from them at all, cause from the start, their default position is to blindly ignore the intrinsic evil nature of the their book. A small child is smart enough to indentify things in the their book that are demonstrably abhorrent. And when a child or an adult questions a believer on those things, the best they got is “that’s not what it means” or “well, he needed that to happen cause people kept sinning against him and he had to show his authority” or some other absurd nonsense.
I lost my parents and my wife plus living with sickle cell I still trust and love God Almighty.. Even though he was honest and spoke his mind eternity is to long to be wrong...Stay with God no matter what...
It breaks my heart that 1 of the members of the best real Bible Christian hip hop group I grew up on denounced his faith 😢 I pray he comes back to the light of God before its too late I Love this brother ❤ and I would hate to see him perish in hell forever don't let all your hard work for the Lord go to waste brady Goodwin aka the phanatik please bro its not worth eternal separation from God.
Beloved, just what did you come across that turned you into and unbeliever? What is it that you struggled with in scripture? How can you say you still love something you saying you no longer believe in? Please show us the scriptures you read that caused you not to believe anymore. The Bible has been translated from its original version, to a version we can understand; so maybe there is something that was missed interpreted that we may can bring understanding to, so please let us know what it is that we may come together to help each other shed some light on your findings. You are not being specific so we really don’t know what you’re talking about, please make yourself more clear by showing what it is you’re disagreeing in the scriptures, I like to know the Book, chapter, and verse. We love you and are here for you. The Bible says in all things to get an understanding, and I’m just trying to get an understanding of what you’re talking about, so please show me the scriptures that you no longer agree with and why you no longer agree with them.
“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV
I use to wrestle with various doubts arising from various problematic passages in the Bible too, but I also knew my heart was deceitful, and knew it was way more easier for me to do bad things, even though I wanted to do good; I knew I was a slave to my sins and vices, and knew the message of salvation proclaimed throughout the Bible, was the only remedy for this. I saw all other religions as people desperately trying to do good deeds in the hope of reaching God, but noticed how the gospel was different, because it was God coming down to reach people in the Person of Christ....in spite of whatever problem passage, scribal error, manuscript variations etc, I saw the overall message was the same in the Bible: humanity is basically fallen, all gave sinned, sin resulted in death for all, human-beings are powerless to save themselves, God who made man in His image, came down in the imagecof man die for sins, and rose from the dead defeating death, and taking away the fear of death to all who believe....no other religion says this, the message of salvation in the scriptures has never changed (in spite of man's efforts to change it).
I would drive to Philly if that's where you are to sit down and discuss these things with you. You might think I'm crazy but I really believe I can help.
Sweetheart, while I call myself a Christian, I don’t think the Bible is the last word. It’s been translated and retranslated so many times, I believe it can be a hindrance. There are words written in the original that doesn’t even translate to English, someone had to decide what to put in its place. I believe humans are fallible, we have an ego, & we make mistakes. For anyone reading this checkout a “Rev Ed Trevors” here on TH-cam. I’ve never had a pastor I felt comfortable with, but I enjoy listing to him, it’s not a sermon, just him sharing his thought on different subjects. He has a “Church Without Walls” every Saturday night, that’s not a sermon. It’s more of a discussion back and forth between us viewers and him. He seems humble, he’s all inclusive. There’s even atheists who join in because of his thoughts, them saying while they’re not a believe they feel uplifted by what he has to say. There’s a couple of witches, I think a pagan too. It seems they all respect him as the person he is. There’s no hellfire or damnation either. Believe me, I’d run like hell the first time I didn’t think he was Jesus like. Grace to you all.
It’s amazing how ppl that don’t know this man can create there very own theories/ reasoning for him leaving the faith, while using the very Bible to bash him with it great work saints, it really takes y’all sheep nothing to throw your own brother away for belief doesn’t it 💯👌🏽
Oh brother, Are you sure you want to plunge head first down the rabbit hole. It is ever so dark! Matthew 10:32-33 “ 2“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.”
Another one bites the dust. I’ve heard some of the Cross Movement’s tracks and to be honest I wasn’t sure if they have been capable enough to introduce more diversity in their lyrics anyway, much like most other church rappers I’ve heard. Misplaced ones who are no more resonant, dynamic or spontaneous than someone like Tupac was more motivated. Well past their sell-by date. As much as it’s imperative to boldly proclaim the Gospel, Christian rappers can NEVER be respected by the secular team for trying too hard to be hip or carve a hooky niche, full stop. They’re clearly mugging themselves off.
These are always sad to hear. I give him much credit for not trying to divide the body by trying to pull the church more liberal to meet his new standards, but instead, being honest and making a clean break. Unless he plays a divisive person online, this is much more preferable.
It is so sad that now he that he has left the church , he decides to search the scriptures. That is why reading the bible on a daily bases is so impartant. We are to search the scriptures to make sure we have eternal life. One thing I am sure of is that there is no real peace and joy without Jesus!!!!
Bro what are the issues you had in the scriptures ? I'm happy to help you understand. You might just be misunderstanding something or taken it out of context. Don't walk away from the faith brother. Keep the faith.
Chick Publications did a series of ministry comics for evangelism. One called "The Bible"...they dealt with this same phenomenon, especially as it relates to the effects of seminaries and Bible colleges.
Genesis 1:1 it all starts there. If you question that verse you fail to recognize who God is and how powerful, all knowing, etc God is. Genesis 1:1 requires faith because it's beyond our finite minds that God just spoke the entire universe into existence. There's such a failure in church today explaining who God is and who we are. This is a great example why churches don't preach this because people like this man will flee from Christianity. He wants an infinite God to explain things to his finite mind.
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
He has quit Christianity and renounced his faith in Christ based on not having a clear understanding of the Bible, none of us have a totally clear understanding of the Bible but our faith is not in the Bible it is in Christ as a person, not a book. The Bible reveals who Christ is but we are not saved by believing the Bible we are saved by giving our life to Jesus and accepting that we will never understand the Bible 100%. I believe the Bible but it’s not my salvation only Jesus is and if I don’t understand some things in the Bible then I just accept that I may not get my answers but I won’t renounce my faith based on not understanding the Bible.
Praying for you. 1 Tim 4:1 NKJV Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
Interesting 🤔🤔, What problems and issues are you struggling with for all those years? He is not explaining the issues? What issues are Jumping out at him?
Let this be a warning to everyone; If you haven't encountered the living Christ, you're not His. You can "believe" all you want, but there's an experiential aspect to salvation that go beyond giving mental assent to a set of stated facts. Jesus Himself said so... John 14:16-23.
1 Timothy 4:1 The Great Apostasy 4 Now the Spirit [a]expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
This is a sad state of affairs. Not enough information to understand what he is referring to as the crux of his division. However, this man has a level of integrity that many believers could benefit from. In a way he exposes the many snakes in the midst and who likely poisoned his mind against the truth. Nevertheless this man is worshipping an idol. May it be revealed to him how weak and insufficient anything formed on this earth is. That he has traded his inheritance for a pot of stew, here one minute but gone the next.
Well the bible says in these last days there will be a great falling away..I truly believe that for me there is no way that I could ever walk away from Christ I pray for your mind. Satan comes to steal kill and destroy were you really a true believer...
Hum, this doesn't sound like a nonbeliever to me. So all you critics who think youre so perfect, I say just shut up, you and your self righteousness should just go jump in the lake. This sounds more like extreme dissolutionment than it does rejection. Though many may be dissappointed about this message, he seems to want to be honest more than harmful and is clearly conscious that his revelation will impacted others. Here is the great thing about grace and salvation. If he was never trully saved as a believer, he hasn't lost anything anyway. But if he was, he still is and will be brought back. Because that is what the power of God and the convicting presents of the Spirit will ultimately do. Thus, this is a time of prayer for people in his state of mind, not judgement. How alone he must feel to have come to this place. But the Spirit of God seals his people so that they can be found again in God's timing. Eph 1:11-14 In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. Amen and Ase.
When we follow Jesus as King and His Kingdom, the Gospel Jesus preached, there will in no way be a thought of denouncing that. Anyways, sad to see this happening.
It seems like he was never really grounded in the word. There may be things in seminary school that doesn’t sit right but, we are still within the same body and the spirit bears witness. But then again God is separating the wheat from the tares! The great falling away has begun! People taking heed to seducing Spirits and doctrines of devils!!
I know what he doesn’t believe I wanna know what he believes now. He mentioned liberal and it’ll interesting to know what ideology you’re holding to be truth now. 🤔
Wow!! Um praying for you to return to God. Churches may hurt you but we don't turn on the Faith of Christ. I mean this serious business!! Your saying your turning from the Faith. I pray for you love you even though 🙏❤️✝️
1john2v19..They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
At least he's willing to be honest. I'd rather him be outside the faith doubting rather than inside the faith not being honest.
Yeah. Refreshing to see someone who opposes the faith but isn't a wolf.
Except he isn't being honest. He's lying. He was never a christian, or he never would have stopped being so. He was a rapper who was offerred money by a "christian" music label to pretend to be christian to sell music. Now he just doesn't want to pretend anymore.
Rather he send himself to Hell? wow...... Well, we ARE in the "great apostasy".....
I'd say the later. Staying inside the fold still provides safety. And the closer you are to the water the better chance you have of getting wet.
@@eliasgerber2203 Disagree with your statement. What is your proof?
Sad. I’ve been there. But the Holy Spirit that lives in me convicted me hard and made me repent. I wept bitterly like Peter did when he denied Jesus three times. This life will shake your faith hard. I understand why people lose their faith. But if you truly are saved, Jesus will come for you. The spirit will convict you. You can’t escape. I hope and pray this will be the case for this man.
"you can't escape"
Amen. It's on this truth I hang my hope. Being unable to escape means the Master's grip is unreleasable and to have that grip hold me is my deepest desire.
Hebrews 6:4-6 is this poor man's fate
Did you have many people who look up to you and then make a public renouncasion of your faith ?
Amen
He's more honest than the wolves in the pulpit today.
Wolves? What wolves.
@@bishopakpan2284He means the wolves who skim off the top and scam desperate people for money. 2 Peter 2, Jude 3 and 1 Timothy 6:9-10.
This is still heartbreaking. I only came here because I just listened to him on a Da Truth song just now. Intellect and man's wisdom will not make the Word of God make sense! It take the Spirit of God to unveil who Jesus is! Not our academics and apologetics! I am praying for Hosea 6:23 and Joel 2:23-28 to take place for my brother and in this land in Jesus name! Shalom.
May God grant Him repentance.
Amen 🙏
@@robset1313 Hebrews 6:4-6
Naw he’s good
Blessed be God forever 🙌🙂
Jesus Christ is Lord forever 🙌😊 Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🙌😊 Amen.
Truly, I believe the Bible is really Real, the Bible is the Blessed Word of God, the Holy Scriptures are true. Yet, at the same time, I do not view the Scriptures as everyone else does, but I do believe that I have the accurate view of Scriptures, by the grace of God and to His glory, as does the thousands of other different divisions of Christian assemblies. So, I think that often the problem is that people leave (or call themselves leaving) the Christian faith because they don't view the Bible as the Baptists, or as the Apostolics, or as the Pentecostals, or as the Methodists, or whatever other denomination or non denominational church that they were a part of believes the Bible. But we need to understand that we don't have to believe the Bible as everyone else believes it, we need to believe the Bible as God Himself reveals the Bible to us. The difference is the Born again experience. When you have a true Born again experience in which the Holy Spirit comes into your heart and transforms your life, No doctrine can ever take that away from you. No understanding or misunderstanding or interpretation or wrong or right or whatever type of interpretation of the Bible that you have can ever take away that Born again experience. Blessed be the Name of the Lord! You have that experience, so whenever someone tries to challenge the Christian faith (and I get challenged all the time through the verbal or written combat of non-believers), all I have to do is go back to my Born again experience. All I have to do is go back to when Jesus Christ empowered me with the Holy Spirit and my entire life was changed, my thoughts change, my words change, my deeds changed, and it was an overpowering effect so that I could not control the change: all I did was believe the Word of God and God began to transform me so dramatically and so miraculously no doctrine can never take that away. It's a lifetime memory. And God continues and have continued to work in my life answering my prayers and showing me miracle after miracle and moving mountain after mountain and giving healing after healing through prayer and through faith. And not only so but there's a place in His Presence (God's Holy and Glorious Presence) that's so different that to not dwell there for any period of time results in a different attitude, results in different thoughts, and results in feeling like a fish out of water, so you are compelled to dwell there all the time because that joy and that peace and that love and that glory is not found anywhere else.
Much love in Christ Jesus forever
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The Ministry of Pure Truth
All glory be to God forever 🙌😊
Praise Christ Jesus forever 🙌😊
Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🙌😊 Amen.
@@lovegrace3719 he’s not .
God told us that this will happen. It's sad and it hurts, but God's word is true. We have to cultivate a love of truth so we can endure til the end.
God didn't tell you anything. The con men that wrote the Bible knew people would eventually discover its all a lie. And you're defending the con men.
“30 years…”
What a sad and sobering reminder to always remain vigilant against self-deceit and the wiles of Satan whom Scripture describes as “a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.”
Hebrews 6:4-6
You're seeing it all wrong. He realizes he's spent 30 years teaching a myth. God doesn't exist.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion yes he does too
@@lisamay3240 prove God exists.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion God doesn't exist. He lives. Every other thing exists because He made them.
Very sad. I know I enjoyed his music. May God help him.
same here..
Did god help him remain a Christian? So why are you hoping god will get him back? Think about. The Phanatik has realized that god doesn't exist.
And what damage did believers do to you that you’re such an antagonist?
Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. 1 Corinthians 10:12
I honestly don’t understand him. I mean the story of Abraham and Isaac is right at the beginning in Genesis. If you cannot come to grips with the fact that God may often times be incomprehensible to our finite understanding, that He isn’t going to line up into your moral frame work, but that He is the potter and you are the Clay and it is the height of arrogance to expect God to comform to what you see as righteous and just and fair and “equitable”, but rather it’s supposed to be the other way around you comform to the King’s standards of goodness
Ouuu, that’s good…
The problem is to much theology and to little kneeology. To much religion and to little relationship
This doesn’t add up. Huh, it looks like there’s an older flood narrative by 1400 years in the epic of Gilgamesh, and lots of psalms to Yahweh are stolen from the Baal cycle written nine hundred years before the Bible. Oh no, archeologists keep finding seals of Israelite kings who were supposed to only worship Yahweh that Egyptian gods all over them. Oh no the euthyphro dilemma has convinced me that a god cannot be triomni.
I guess I should just pray more, as if I didn’t do that upwards of 5 hours a day.
“Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy (delusion) comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,” 2 Thessalonians 2:3 NASB
Paul Washer said it many years ago that the biggest mission field in the world is the church. Boy was he right. I do have respect for this man that he is walking away and not faking it.
The test is of faith, lean not to your own understanding, but we still must not work evil and let God work through us. Faith works by love, and love(God) never fails. If any man loves Him, the same is known of Him.
Honestly, I wish more unbelievers were willing to be this honest. Praying he can be led to repentance but, like some other commenters have said, it’s refreshing that he is honest and has removed himself from the church.
He doesn't need repentance from an imaginary god, he's free from Christianity.
But it's because of Christians and the demonization of unbelievers that people don't feel they can be open and honest. Help to foster a culture where unbelievers can feel fine being open about their true beliefs instead of pressuring them to lie.
I don't like that he is not being specific about the "issues". Sounds like he had not been in the Scriptures for a while.
That said, I do appreciate him being honest and leaving the body alone.
Homosexuality!?!? 😬 we will see soon…. 🤔 🧐 plus he made a comment about being liberal…
I would agree. The whole time he spoke and mentioned "issues" I audibly reply "List them. What are they?"
My greatest fear would be he had misgivings that weren't addressed by those over him; that the mature of his church leaders wasn't great enough to lead him to clarity.
@@naterock369 right. "Come let's reason together." If all you have are "issues", you don't have to be challenged and taught and called to repent and believe.
And unfortunately, you are probably right about his church leaders. My hope is that he didn't bring the issues to them, not that they couldn't explain.
But he won't be leaving the body alone. This is the start of a new career for him - "denouncing" the Christian faith.
@@chickenheart896 probably, but I am trying to give my rare benefit of the doubt.
They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. I John 2:19
Let him go on his journey. It's a different path for everyone. God knows his. And it really isn't any of our place to make the judgment as to whether he is or isn't. God bless him and be with him as he walks this walk.
I will be praying for Phanatik. It is my prayer that God will again enlighten his mind and spirit with the truth and power of the Gospel.
Don't pray for him for 2 reasons. 1. He didn't ask you to. There's nothing wrong with him. 2. Prayer doesn't work, it's all in your head and only makes you feel better.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion 💯 I love how you respond and remind these people in the comments that they need to face reality and let go of the fairy tales.
The depth of his sadness in getting the words out says a lot more than just, ‘I’m worried about how this might make others feel’. He knows, in his spirit, that this is grievous.
Does he at any point specifically say what in the scriptures he had a problem with?
Watched the whole vid, don't think he did. I think it's all high-level academic stuff so probably getting into it for an initial video would've been going too far into the weeds.
It sounds like his issues are with the Scriptures about gender and sexuality, and his true religion is liberalism so they won't square up.
@@WokePreacherClips yeah that would have been awfully dull - they think it’s exciting and fresh, of course, and totally revolutionary. But as per Chesterton, heresy is never adventurous; it’s always just boring and lazy.
In any case, I feel a great sadness for him. Reminds me of what hebrews says about those who taste of the Lord’s goodness but deny the master that bought them. There’s a terrible tragedy to it - apostates often walk around like wraiths in the world, either biting and snapping at the faith, or grasping at meaning in sordid little hovels, all to regain the substance and form they once enjoyed.
@@steeevealbright you are right. Race is a big one. He has been leaning towards woks for a long time now. In his tweets etc.
He's realized he's spent 30 years teaching a myth. He didn't mention what the issues were because it's not a teaching video and he didn't want to mess with anyone else's faith. He said that if you listen to what he says and not what you want to hear.
Everyone’s journey in this life is different. If you can’t understand his journey, his path is not your path. If you aren’t still embracing him, even though he is learning who is as a person and where he is in his own personal journey, you are definitely part of the problem. I met this man at CRUvention in Orlando years and years ago. He is a good man. Not all who wander are lost.
You don't understand. When you make a public declaration denouncing Christ, just as you did when you were baptised, you are not wandering. You are lost. Worst still, you have in effect rejected Christ. Ask Judas Iscariot, who later repented or realised the evil of what he did, but couldn't trace his path back to Christ. The Apostle Peter clearly warns, "If we reject Him, He will reject us". The Lord said, "If you are ashamed of Me before men, I will be ashamed of before My Father..." It's that serious. No one here is trying to tear Brad to shreds for what he did. On the contrary, when a professed Christian denounces the faith, it shakes the confidence of others. It has a ripple effect. Thankfully, the faith of true followers of Christ doesn't depend on sound theological argument or knowledge. It is on the revelation of Christ the Church is built.
@@bishopakpan2284 I do understand. Some people have moved on from believing in fairly tales and others have not. If you still believe, that works for you. For those who have moved on from faith to live a more fuller life, allow them to be who they are.
No one can ask Judas Iscariot anything, that’s even if he existed. To quote Gandalf “All that is good does not glitter. Not all those that wander are lost..” Lost to you doesn’t mean the same to everyone. Think about that before you speak.
@@flystevejobs You have no idea what you're talking about, obviously. You are not who I thought you are when I made my response.
@@bishopakpan2284 clearly I have some idea as to what I’m talking about. To dismiss me and my experience is almost what Timothy was saying in Timothy 4:12 as you are not showing yourself as an example. Rather than your condemnation, there may be some who are on the fence in these comments that would find your repudiations to be off putting and you have caused more damage to their faith than any non believer could ever.
@@flystevejobs hmmmmm.
CONGRATULATIONS to Phanatik! I too, denounced being a believer in 2016, and it was the best decision I ever made in my life. I tried to tell my mama as a child that lifestyle wasn't for me, but she wouldn't let me be free. I tried to go along with it but everything isn't for everybody. It's not coming from a place of hurt like so many believers assume. It was just me using logic &reasoning and common sense. I hope the best for this brother's new journey, because my life has never been better & so free.
Hey Free, you see these ridiculous comments? The slaves don't realize they're enslaved and that Phanatik is now free.
@@WilliamJonesLeavingReligion of course they don't and at this point it's best to act as if they're invisible, because really they are now. They're just walking in circles under the illusion they're going straight. Until they become AWARE if ever, they'll only see things as they were programmed to see. Meanwhile we're FREE & living life as it was meant to live.
@suitefleur are you going to pray for me, like people who pray to your god to stop the person that molested them. Pray for me like the person who prayed to your god to not be raped. Pray for me like my ancestors prayed to your god to stop slavery. Your god allows so much harm to happen, hell he won't destroy this devil he created. But will send people to this hell if they don't obey him. Yes please pray if you want to...🙄🤦🏿♀️
Good for him! ....the majority of so called "Christians" always talk about the bible being "true" but never want to talk about the truth regarding the bible....and the funny thing is that the problem ain't even the bible....the bible says what it says....the problem is what people SAY about the bible....things the bible itself never even claims.......NO it is not inerrant.... NO everything in it is not true.... YES it contains contradictions.....and instead of acknowledging these facts and having a real honest discussion about why the errors, contradictions and such are there, "Christians" ignore them and make weak excuses for them to try to convince themselves that they are not......based solely on what they "believe"......I wish this dude well on his journey... happy for him.....✌️💯💪🍷
What logic did you use?
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
-1 John 2:19
This dude is deep into his studies, so I’m not going to assume I understand his plight.
My question, can we trust and believe in God, (accepting Christ), while understanding that we don’t fully understand the writings? And the conflicts that arise?
If issues with the Bible is the name of this she was also with the concept that price and God exist?
This sucks man. All of the Christian music industry is deconstructing and leaving. Even Relient K is bringing Grace Baldridge (Semler) on tour, an openly homosexual progressive “Christian” who sings blasphemous music. It just gets more and more depressing.
@J L completely agree. Bands like The Almost, Underoath, Hawk Nelson, Relient K, Switchfoot, etc. It’s sort of become habit for me to just scroll through a band/artists Instagram page before regularly listening to their music. It’s often a good indicator of where they line up as Christians. Even if the stuff they support isn’t explicit in their music, they work it in slowly.
Wow! 🤦🏽♀️
@Michael Ward Amen. I have family members (good Christians all) who lead the worship teams at their respective churches. The antics they get up to. The "congregation" just sits and never makes a peep while the worship team is caterwauling away. They are sincerely convinced that this is the way to worship. I no longer try to persuade them otherwise.
What are these issues he claims to have found in the Holy Bible? Not one was provided.
So sad. What verses?
If you listen closely to his renunciation video, the original fissure began with the desire to disassociate himself from an evangelical Christian movement that has conflated itself with conservative political ideology in an unhealthy way that is opposed to the cause of Christ. I've often commented to friends that unbelievers particularly, but even those within the faith, would eventually begin to impute that conservative rhetoric to Christianity, as if it formed part of the faith, and wish to distance themselves from the faith itself. I'm afraid that is what was at least partially at play in phanatiks case. Body of Christ, please segregate your Christian walk from your secular associations; for the Kingdom's sake!
So a gay black man whose been down low for decades finally decides Christ offends him and Paul shouldn't have preached against homosexuality. Got it.
Phanatik is gay?
@@reason4beingnah Christian’s just turn on turncoats. Remember to love your enemy folks
I hope he comes to the realization that outside of Christ whom he is now denouncing, there remains no other atonement for sin. I pray that he comes to his senses.
Hebrews 6:4-6
If god doesn’t exist then that’s not a problem for him?
Another CCM artist deconstructs. Is CCM supposed to be part of the Great Commission or is it just allowing Christians to listen to their favorite genre of music without having to listen to pagan music? Isn't CCM managed by pagan record companies?
You don't know how much this stuff saddens me. I grew up on cross movement (especially ambassador), t-bone, gospel gangstaz, g.r.i.t.s, propaganda, kj-52, etc...n it seems like most "Christian artists" r just falling in line...I mean heck, eshon burgundy is now a Hebrew israelite...Kevin max from dc talk went this "deconstruction" route too n now believes in "the cosmic christ" which is 100% new age principle right out of books by Alice Bailey and Helena blavatsky....the first ppl i remember talking about deconstruction in the chh community were lecrae n andy mineo like 5-6 years ago n now it seems its only strengthened since then
Yes!!! I keep saying 3rd type of soil at best… “Christian celebrity” is not a good thing…. 😬 I loved me some Eshon too…. 😩
@@ebonyharbut7641 I know...the only "Christian hip hop" artist i can recommend in good conscience is J. Monty these days, i dunno if you've ever heard of him...honestly most have seemed to have gone the deconstruction or prioritizing social justice over Christ and Biblical justice routes...it's literally most at this point, some to a further extent than another
Cmon Phanatik don’t be apart of the falling away! I pray you find the Lord again and don’t go the way of Cain.
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[Heb 3:12 NASB95] [12] Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God.
Thank you for sharing this. I needed this.
What issues? Which ones, dude? Put what there? What problems are you talking about?
I’ll say this: Any and every time I have seen someone leave the faith, they choose one of the mainstream “problems” typically raised by atheists. In this case, issues with the text, but it could have been the problem of evil or something else. But, in every case, the root issue is that they want to sin. The explanation they give is generally chosen to give themselves a veneer of credibility. But it has generally come down to the fact that they no longer want to live with a commitment to holiness unto the Lord. Instead, they want to be free from the pressure they feel to live a particular way as a Christian should, and instead desire to make moral compromises without the guilt that comes from knowing Jesus would not approve.
Now, I’m not saying that is what is happening here. I can’t say because I don’t know this guy. But, anecdotally, this has been the consistent experience I have had over the last 25 years of ministry.
Sad.
Yes, yes and yes. The theological "problems" are invariably a smokescreen for sinful inclinations. I remember when a well-known Moody professor jumped ship --- his study of the ancient languages of the bible supposedly led him to the shipwreck of his faith. My sister at that time said to me, "I guarantee you; he wanted to commit adultery and was looking for a way to give in." I was shocked by her statement. But as it turned out...she was right. Sin lies at the door. God help us to take heed lest we fall.
@@chickenheart896 your sister was right as many that denounce it after a few months their lifestyle is revealed
@@msmichelle2196or maybe they used to not due those things because they were Christian’s, but after their belief in the concept of sin collapsed, they chose to take part in behavior that would be considered sinful? You do know people genuinely change their mind. Is Satan inhabiting every single deconvert?
Also if you keep losing massive groups of people to the same theological problems, is it possible it’s because Christianity has been failing to answer these challenges since ad 33?
Ok sooooo he basically said NOTHING I’m this clip! He didn’t present the passages that he’s having difficulties with; his denouncing of the faith over a few unanswered questions seem premature to me. As someone who’s been in the faith for 30 years as he stated, he ought to know by now that God is not obligated to make all things clear to us in the Bible. He gives us clarity on those things which are important and necessary for our salvation, there are and will continue to be mysteries in the faith. Why because God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts, his ways are above our ways. He needs for us to humble ourselves and trust him, trust that he means us good and not harm and that he will not keep any good thing from us as the scripture states.
Praying for this man . Those who went from us were never with us.
Yes because he admitted that he really didn't know what was in the scriptures. How can you really know the fullness of God when you didn't know certain things were in the word of God. Which means he didn't really know what he was into????
Is this an example of one losing his salvation or never truly been saved?
Gee Lamar...you are exactly right, you cannot LOSE what you never had! He was never truly Saved therefore he remains unWoke.
1 John 2:19
@@geelamar3542 yes! and also
Matt.7:21-23
Amen, that’s the Word. Thanks
That’s a very dishonest and cruel thing to say. I know it must make you feel better to think that, but the reality is he was a sincere believer, but he now he realizes it isn’t true. Be happy for him.
I totally understand him, I did the same some years ago. Stay encouraged and find your path
Pray for his soul but don't endorse anything he's going to say. You know better than this brady.
Good for you brother. This doesn’t separate you from god. God got you.
Make no mistake -- he is not just "denouncing the Christian faith. He is denouncing the Lord Jesus Christ. I think there is a good bit of "separation' going on.
MATTHEW 5:13: “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."
@Phanatik (Brady Goodwin):
Thank you so much for the time and heart you gave to God! My son was impacted through The Cross Movement music and your lyrics, and is still today.
I will share my thoughts on your denunciation:
1. God is always testing us. Otherwise, we would never know where our faith really is - what we really believe and Wood versus what we ascribe to. The testing is for US to know where we are, to align with God, using the tools he’s given.
2. Your new enlightenment reminds me of Adam and Eve’s story. Specifically, this verse:
“..saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it…”
I think your “tree” and “fruit” is humanity and humanism, whose premise is “man is the measure of all things” and “do as thou wilt.” The liberality you mentioned is the language of a desire to please man (including your mind/self) more than the Creator of man.
“At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves… Then the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?” He replied, “I heard you walking in the garden, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked.” “Who told you that you were naked?” the Lord God asked. “Have you eaten from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat?””
Genesis 3:6-11 NLT
I believe the scriptures that “jumped out at you”, after 30 years, are a result of something else that changed in your life experience that caused you to see God [Himself] differently and subsequently His word. Otherwise, your faith lens wouldn’t allow you to have a worldly consciousness.
I appreciate you sharing this and I will definitely be in prayer, in God‘s mercy, that He will remember your [previous] devotion and be gracious and good enough to you [again] to cause you to respond to him in a way that would lead you to turn back and greater than ever before. Thankfully, God loves you ahead of your current state. There’s literally grace awaiting.
I will just ask that you give God the openness that you have given liberality and humanism. Don’t think you’ve “arrived“ or “progressed” or “evolved”. Stay humble. Stay meek. It’s still in there-I can hear it.
Thank you, again!
Would love some context of what he struggles with. Either way, it’s an issue of presuppositionalism. Starting with the triune God and moving forward. Hopefully people don’t swarm him with evidentialism because that’s gonna fall flat on it’s face.
Yeah, he didn't get specific.
Seems like he was hinting at that huh?
I’m wondering if it’s going to be homosexuality??! 🤔 plus he mentioned being liberal…
@@ebonyharbut7641 it seems like he may want to live an alternative lifestyle as he continues to say issues...Tonex did the same
Run Come home, Son Come Home, you Outta Come Home, Run Come Home!
2:19 What man?? Told him about all these issues hes never seen before in the bible .??? Who was that? ? Also, we are saved by Grace through faith not of ourselves
(Ephesians 2:8-9)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Man I wanna cry right now hearing this, this is so me, everything. You want to believe, you still love the gospels and yet you just can't bring yourself to. It is heartbreaking.
In the full video, does he articulate more specifically why he doesn't believe in the inerrancy and veracity of the Bible any more?
No. From this discussion with guys who are more plugged into the CHH world, it sounds like one of the issues is whether God is the author of evil: th-cam.com/video/Z4_qQh8Cf5M/w-d-xo.html
Yes. The video is about 24 minutes long. Not a 5 minute clip like this one.
He sounds very tormented and that breaks my heart. I definitely will pray for him and the people he will affect.
At least he is honest
Good for him that he's awakened from the Christian myth. Now he can live in reality instead of fantasy. Jesus is a myth.
Hey, man! I Love you videos. Saw you talking about this guy in your last vid, so I had to check this out. I don't remember much about the Cross Movement, except that when I was like 10-11 y/o (I'm now 32), my mom got me their "Human Emergency" album, so that I could listen to "clean, Christ-worshiping hip hop". The intro track on that album still haunts me to this day. It's a ridiculous skit track, you may or may not remember it. It's sooo disturbing how it tries to scare you about the alleged impending doom of not having Christ in your life or whatever. It's actually sickening. NO child should ever listen to that. I love my mom, but she's misguided.
@@joshuaneal7552 thanks bruh. It's good to my videos are really helping people get away from religion.
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@@joshuaneal7552 Exactly the people who believe in this buybull nonsense are really the ones that are misguided, and they are so limited in their thinking and scared to study the real Christianity because history will prove it and them to be false. The esteemed Dr. Walter Williams said throw the bible and all religion(Islam, Judaism) in the nearest trash can.
@@misterkgb1 This is true. Can’t expect critical thinking from them at all, cause from the start, their default position is to blindly ignore the intrinsic evil nature of the their book. A small child is smart enough to indentify things in the their book that are demonstrably abhorrent. And when a child or an adult questions a believer on those things, the best they got is “that’s not what it means” or “well, he needed that to happen cause people kept sinning against him and he had to show his authority” or some other absurd nonsense.
PROFOUNDLY sad, like someone has died. 😭😭😭
Love the brother's music...I am hoping he still believes Jesus. I believe our salvation is safe in HIM
I lost my parents and my wife plus living with sickle cell I still trust and love God Almighty.. Even though he was honest and spoke his mind eternity is to long to be wrong...Stay with God no matter what...
It breaks my heart that 1 of the members of the best real Bible Christian hip hop group I grew up on denounced his faith 😢 I pray he comes back to the light of God before its too late I Love this brother ❤ and I would hate to see him perish in hell forever don't let all your hard work for the Lord go to waste brady Goodwin aka the phanatik please bro its not worth eternal separation from God.
Beloved, just what did you come across that turned you into and unbeliever? What is it that you struggled with in scripture? How can you say you still love something you saying you no longer believe in? Please show us the scriptures you read that caused you not to believe anymore. The Bible has been translated from its original version, to a version we can understand; so maybe there is something that was missed interpreted that we may can bring understanding to, so please let us know what it is that we may come together to help each other shed some light on your findings. You are not being specific so we really don’t know what you’re talking about, please make yourself more clear by showing what it is you’re disagreeing in the scriptures, I like to know the Book, chapter, and verse. We love you and are here for you. The Bible says in all things to get an understanding, and I’m just trying to get an understanding of what you’re talking about, so please show me the scriptures that you no longer agree with and why you no longer agree with them.
I’m so happy for him
“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV
I use to wrestle with various doubts arising from various problematic passages in the Bible too, but I also knew my heart was deceitful, and knew it was way more easier for me to do bad things, even though I wanted to do good; I knew I was a slave to my sins and vices, and knew the message of salvation proclaimed throughout the Bible, was the only remedy for this. I saw all other religions as people desperately trying to do good deeds in the hope of reaching God, but noticed how the gospel was different, because it was God coming down to reach people in the Person of Christ....in spite of whatever problem passage, scribal error, manuscript variations etc, I saw the overall message was the same in the Bible: humanity is basically fallen, all gave sinned, sin resulted in death for all, human-beings are powerless to save themselves, God who made man in His image, came down in the imagecof man die for sins, and rose from the dead defeating death, and taking away the fear of death to all who believe....no other religion says this, the message of salvation in the scriptures has never changed (in spite of man's efforts to change it).
I would drive to Philly if that's where you are to sit down and discuss these things with you. You might think I'm crazy but I really believe I can help.
Sweetheart, while I call myself a Christian, I don’t think the Bible is the last word. It’s been translated and retranslated so many times, I believe it can be a hindrance. There are words written in the original that doesn’t even translate to English, someone had to decide what to put in its place. I believe humans are fallible, we have an ego, & we make mistakes. For anyone reading this checkout a “Rev Ed Trevors” here on TH-cam. I’ve never had a pastor I felt comfortable with, but I enjoy listing to him, it’s not a sermon, just him sharing his thought on different subjects. He has a “Church Without Walls” every Saturday night, that’s not a sermon. It’s more of a discussion back and forth between us viewers and him. He seems humble, he’s all inclusive. There’s even atheists who join in because of his thoughts, them saying while they’re not a believe they feel uplifted by what he has to say. There’s a couple of witches, I think a pagan too. It seems they all respect him as the person he is. There’s no hellfire or damnation either. Believe me, I’d run like hell the first time I didn’t think he was Jesus like. Grace to you all.
sad news. I really like his music.
And many will depart from the Faith!
It’s amazing how ppl that don’t know this man can create there very own theories/ reasoning for him leaving the faith, while using the very Bible to bash him with it great work saints, it really takes y’all sheep nothing to throw your own brother away for belief doesn’t it 💯👌🏽
Romans 1 They forget the Lord to enjoy vile passions.
Oh brother, Are you sure you want to plunge head first down the rabbit hole. It is ever so dark!
Matthew 10:32-33
“ 2“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.”
Another one bites the dust. I’ve heard some of the Cross Movement’s tracks and to be honest I wasn’t sure if they have been capable enough to introduce more diversity in their lyrics anyway, much like most other church rappers I’ve heard. Misplaced ones who are no more resonant, dynamic or spontaneous than someone like Tupac was more motivated. Well past their sell-by date. As much as it’s imperative to boldly proclaim the Gospel, Christian rappers can NEVER be respected by the secular team for trying too hard to be hip or carve a hooky niche, full stop. They’re clearly mugging themselves off.
These are always sad to hear. I give him much credit for not trying to divide the body by trying to pull the church more liberal to meet his new standards, but instead, being honest and making a clean break. Unless he plays a divisive person online, this is much more preferable.
It is so sad that now he that he has left the church , he decides to search the scriptures. That is why reading the bible on a daily bases is so impartant. We are to search the scriptures to make sure we have eternal life. One thing I am sure of is that there is no real peace and joy without Jesus!!!!
Bro what are the issues you had in the scriptures ? I'm happy to help you understand. You might just be misunderstanding something or taken it out of context. Don't walk away from the faith brother. Keep the faith.
Chick Publications did a series of ministry comics for evangelism. One called "The Bible"...they dealt with this same phenomenon, especially as it relates to the effects of seminaries and Bible colleges.
Phanatik.
The Bible is written on your heart. If u disagree or things aren’t logical, say that
But God is Love.
And that never goes away
Genesis 1:1 it all starts there. If you question that verse you fail to recognize who God is and how powerful, all knowing, etc God is. Genesis 1:1 requires faith because it's beyond our finite minds that God just spoke the entire universe into existence. There's such a failure in church today explaining who God is and who we are. This is a great example why churches don't preach this because people like this man will flee from Christianity. He wants an infinite God to explain things to his finite mind.
Billy Graham had this same internal battle but in the end Holy Spirit corrected him. ✝️🌹⬆️❤️
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
He has quit Christianity and renounced his faith in Christ based on not having a clear understanding of the Bible, none of us have a totally clear understanding of the Bible but our faith is not in the Bible it is in Christ as a person, not a book. The Bible reveals who Christ is but we are not saved by believing the Bible we are saved by giving our life to Jesus and accepting that we will never understand the Bible 100%. I believe the Bible but it’s not my salvation only Jesus is and if I don’t understand some things in the Bible then I just accept that I may not get my answers but I won’t renounce my faith based on not understanding the Bible.
Oh, Phanatik 😭😭my heart is 💔
There are some things in the Bible that I question forsure. I see where he's coming from.
Me to. But never let that discourage you from having a relationship with the one who ultimately knows all
I agree with him as we did the same about 5 years ago. Christianity or religion does not any sense.
Praying for you. 1 Tim 4:1 NKJV Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
Such a great shame. So sad to hear.
Interesting 🤔🤔, What problems and issues are you struggling with for all those years? He is not explaining the issues? What issues are Jumping out at him?
Is he talking about woke issues that the Bible goes against?? I wish I knew what he was talking about
Let this be a warning to everyone;
If you haven't encountered the living Christ, you're not His. You can "believe" all you want, but there's an experiential aspect to salvation that go beyond giving mental assent to a set of stated facts.
Jesus Himself said so... John 14:16-23.
Can you define what it means to encounter the living Christ.
why do Christians mimic the world in the world doesn't mimic Christians. what does God say about Christian rap ✌🏾
May The God of peace reveal Himself to my Brotha!!!😪🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
1 Timothy 4:1
The Great Apostasy
4 Now the Spirit [a]expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
This is a sad state of affairs. Not enough information to understand what he is referring to as the crux of his division. However, this man has a level of integrity that many believers could benefit from. In a way he exposes the many snakes in the midst and who likely poisoned his mind against the truth. Nevertheless this man is worshipping an idol. May it be revealed to him how weak and insufficient anything formed on this earth is. That he has traded his inheritance for a pot of stew, here one minute but gone the next.
Wow. Absolutely discouraging, but it is what it is. Let EACH one work out his own salvation
with fear and trembling........
Well the bible says in these last days there will be a great falling away..I truly believe that for me there is no way that I could ever walk away from Christ I pray for your mind. Satan comes to steal kill and destroy were you really a true believer...
Hum, this doesn't sound like a nonbeliever to me. So all you critics who think youre so perfect, I say just shut up, you and your self righteousness should just go jump in the lake. This sounds more like extreme dissolutionment than it does rejection.
Though many may be dissappointed about this message, he seems to want to be honest more than harmful and is clearly conscious that his revelation will impacted others. Here is the great thing about grace and salvation.
If he was never trully saved as a believer, he hasn't lost anything anyway. But if he was, he still is and will be brought back. Because that is what the power of God and the convicting presents of the Spirit will ultimately do. Thus, this is a time of prayer for people in his state of mind, not judgement. How alone he must feel to have come to this place. But the Spirit of God seals his people so that they can be found again in God's timing.
Eph 1:11-14 In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. Amen and Ase.
Do you think you have the right to tell everyone to shut up? Who gave you that right?
"I get it but I don't believe it." 🤔 There is something ailing him in his spirit.
When we follow Jesus as King and His Kingdom, the Gospel Jesus preached, there will in no way be a thought of denouncing that. Anyways, sad to see this happening.
It seems like he was never really grounded in the word. There may be things in seminary school that doesn’t sit right but, we are still within the same body and the spirit bears witness. But then again God is separating the wheat from the tares! The great falling away has begun! People taking heed to seducing Spirits and doctrines of devils!!
Here's one of the latest refutations of Mr. Brady: th-cam.com/video/XpLMXWyIBS8/w-d-xo.html. Enjoy.
I feel his pain...studying different prophets and believes the secret place is vital...
Good for him! Welcome to freedom, brother.
Not good!!!
@@terrytitus6945 Freedom from what?
I know what he doesn’t believe I wanna know what he believes now. He mentioned liberal and it’ll interesting to know what ideology you’re holding to be truth now. 🤔
Wow!! Um praying for you to return to God. Churches may hurt you but we don't turn on the Faith of Christ. I mean this serious business!! Your saying your turning from the Faith. I pray for you love you even though 🙏❤️✝️
1john2v19..They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
"Even the Elect will be deceived" paphrased