@@snowhunter7536 cause probably when ford met Bill the first time he wasn't creeped out by it and of course the other monsters he's been finding and logging on his journal
@@snowhunter7536 It's probably because either Bill (or the creatures that would later become his army) intentionally drove Fiddleford insane, or held himself (themselves?) back when Ford came through. He speaks backwards when he comes through, something we really only see in relation to Bill. Or maybe it was just incomprehensible and Fiddleford wasn't prepared.
I remember back in the day when a "leaked" picture of McGucket showed him writing in a Journal and everyone believed that he was the Author. Good times
He also says "YROO XRKSVI GIRZMTOV", which is a cipher for "BILL CIPHER TRIANGLE". It's the same thing he says when he accidentally gets sucked into the portal in Stan's backstory episode.
@@alexlovelady8249 you know I find it weird no one theorized that the society of the blind eyes had a major factor is stopping bill cause think about if someone started finding the mysteries and go crazy they would've found him
Well it's not ENTIRELY his fault.He started it,no doubt about that,but McGuckett really only needed it once, it's his fault he kept using it for petty things.
@@xqueen1234 I think he kept using it because of all the weird things that he kept seeing around the town, always reminding him of what he saw through that portal. Like with Stan, as long as you have something that’ll help you remember what you forgot, McGucket would’ve never forgotten about the other side of that portal.
@@Rick-ty9ky damn i guess there were some epic shit through that portal but.. idk. ford spent years there and he came back just fine. maybe just mcgucket was a soft man
@@cesartheguy9413 one thing also funny in the end when mcgucket makes a triangle with his fingers which means he never actually got rid of bills memories with that machine but erased everything else, including his sanity
I think part of that could be not taking care of himself while going insane but it is weird that his hair goes pure old man white after 2 years from being less than middle aged man
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 I suppose that might just be a skill ingrained into him, or more likely just a hint from the show runners that he’s more than he seems
This gives me strong Ice King vibes. A character while at a glace lacks depth, through further inspection there is more. While trying to protect themselves and others, they suffered greatly, losing both themselves and their sanity.
I just realized McGucket's glasses are symbolic of his sanity. In the flashback, he first lost them when he was testing the portal. In these videos, he lost his glasses at one point when he tore out his hair. After he sees his memories, he puts on some glasses with a missing lenses to signify he's regained his sanity. Even if it's a bit broken, like he said, he can start to put himself back together again.
Yo I really want another season of this show I love this my mom bought me the actual copy of journal 3 and a Gravity Falls "don't color this book, it's cursed" coloring book!
@@gustavoc4131 True and it has something to do with muscle memories. Though he had no idea how he identify each objects but once he touch it he remembered that it needs to be attached.
When the series credits rolled in, his son(the fishing shop guy) was with him on the lake or pool i guess. I wonder what was his early days like and how his family split up and his son in gravity falls. Since MGucket was from Colorado
Vincentalot-XD Ms.Yawhaw Oh actually he was from Palo Alto, but he was born in Tennessee and his family had no money. The Journal 3 book has all that stuff about him and more, he’s definitely my favourite character.
When I first watched this part, I was worried he would smash the memories or something stupid like that and deliver a dumb message like "I know who I am, and I don't need nothing to tell me otherwise!". I was so glad he saw his memories and learned about his true self.
I think this is important to show how Stanley Pines got his memory back, Mcgucket was starting to remember as soon as he saw his memories on the screen, even after years had gone by. Why couldn't Grunkle Stan regain his memories using Mabel's scrapbook??
Theory. The device that McGucket made didn't erase any memories like he thought it did. All that happens is that it creates some kind of mental block around the given subject. People block out bad memories all the time,, and the device forces the reaction inside their head.
@@prosecutorwalton Not really. More like device reduces strength of memories, but is unable to erase them completely. Basically, it makes it much harder to remember, but it never actually makes you forget.
For a "kids show" Gravity Falls sure had some tragic characters. McGucket, a guy who wanted to help his college buddy change the world, foresaw that he'd helped destroy, and when he tried to forget it, he forgot himself
This is why I both love and hate this show. Love it because it’s extremely complex and deep with a lot mystery and hard work put into it. Hate it because of Mabel and her selfishness!
@@zman4002 There’s one guy, I can’t remember his name, but he makes such an effort to try and defend Mabel by making excuses on why she isn’t the worse. And his excuse is “she’s not real, why are you complaining about how unrealistic she is”. Meanwhile another user makes great points on why Mabel is terrible and why some of the excuses don’t work and why her “redemption arc” felt lack lustre.
I really like how they handled McGucket in this episode. The guy lost eventually lost everything: his marriage, his relationship with his son and his sanity. I really like the glimmer of hope for McGucket at the end. People will compare Ice King/Simon and Old Man McGucket. McGucket was given his salvation and has the ability to move forward. Whereas Simon's only salvation will come with taking off the crown, getting his mind back and accepting that his fiance is dead and letting go.
Taking off the crown wont reverse it's effects, it'll cause ice king to think more clearly but he won't be sane by a long shot. If the crown's magics are dispelled improperly Simon will just age to death. But Betty is now in ooo and is looking for a proper way.
Simon is stuck in 1000 years in the future where their is no human civilization like how he was before. Betty died or turned into Golb. Simon is way better.
On the last day recorded, or Day ???, it may sound like McGucket is just saying nonsense. Believe it or not, he is talking in a cipher. The Atbash cipher. He says "YROO. XRKSVI. GIRZMTOV." Gibberish without being decoded. When decoded, it reads "BILL. CIPHER. TRIANGLE." To further show that, he makes a triangle shape in front of his eye.
Joseph garcia Some were speculating Stanley was fighting Bill in the room with the universe portal, then Stanford rushed in but was too late. If anyone remembers the image Bill conjured up of Stan (not the tattoo) during the negotiations with Gideon, you'll understand this theory...
@@lavaman8836 It was actually when he saw the Gremgoblin and looked into it's eyes. But he began using it way more after the portal. This was revealed in the Journal 3 book.
@@zarchblarch2490 Really? Because the way it sounds in the clip of him talking about the portal, it sounds like he’s using it for the very first time. “I believe I have invented a machine that can erase these memories from my mind.” “It worked! I can’t recall a thing!”
Extra bit of information, in the comic that takes place after the finale, the leader of the blind eye’s face can be seen being sold by a demon who sells faces in an anomalous black market.
My favorite part about this video is that it explains why McGucket's beard has a bandage on it. Clearly he put it on his face after he hit another car and left it there as the beard started growing in. XD
@ amogus 1:01-1:30 Plot Twist: He got bitten by an aggressive gnome when he came across the colony and it results in a gradual gnome transformation. That’s something I learned about.
I like how Gravity Falls first wrote McGucket's character as being the stereotypical crazy hillbilly that everyone tries to avoid, but then delves deeper into the storyline by turning him into an amnesiac genius, who slowly begins to retain his memories and pushes him into the mystery of the entire show
@@B1SK17 What happen to his house cuz he would live in that motel, then the junkyard, also was he already going insane or was it bc he was over using it
Exactly! The moment he put the tape to run and the video started I just remembered that first glimpse of who Simon was in Aventure Time during the Christmas, when they put the tape and we saw the of Simon tl Ice King
I like how they set up early on that you can get your memories back with familiar images. These aren’t memories being beamed back into his head, it’s recordings of those interviews the society does right before wiping your memory.
There's realism in this. People dont seem to realize that even the most brilliant and intelligent people still have a limit to how much trauma they can mentally handle.
The problem is more that McGucket built that device to forget what he saw in the portal, but then began to abuse it to avoid anything, becoming a coward incapable of facing problems. Same thing for the rest of the Society of the Blind Eye.
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
So he learned the terrible existential truth... but cleared it out of his mind to preserve his sanity... then ended up losing his sanity anyway, directly BECAUSE of his method of protecting himself... and somewhere deep in his subconscious, still remembered the original horrifying knowledge that drove him down that path in the first place. Now there's a story arc H P Lovecraft would be proud of...
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
This is a really touching scene to be honest. Really sad to see one of the most brilliant scientists become something like this. 1:33 made me sit there with an open jar. What a cartoon this is. Amazing stuff, Disney.
Wait, if the video screen shows what the memories inside the canister are, why did it show Mcguckit talking to a camera and use the gun on himself? Shouldn't that have been the scene of him going into the portal?
I don’t think the actual memories can be recorded. The society is shown recording people describing their memories before using the gun, which is where those recordings come from. As shown in the last episode with Stan, the memories can still be regained if the subject is reminded, so those recordings are probably made to facilitate this process, allowing subjects to regain their lost memories if necessary.
This looks really familiar... Old man who's lost his mind and memories, is now a miserable guy who everyone makes fun of, but is revealed to have once been a brilliant scientist through video logs, lost his mind trying to investigate supernatural stuff? ...Simon Pterikov? They even look a bit similar. Still cool though.
Mabel has learned a very important lesson in that episode, just because nobody likes to have bad memories but it is important to learn the bad things that had happened and use those experiences to be more helpful in the future.
Did anyone notice that by day 189, Mcgucket hair is greyish when in day 74 his hair is still brown, this kinda implies that besife causing damage to the mind (And quite possible brain) to victim, prolonged exposure/usage of the Memory Eraser also causes visible phsicall effect like loosing the color of one's hair. This could implied that the memory eraser also affects the chesmistry of the body negatively and quite possible it's celular structure. Also notice how Fiedelford gradually became shorter as he started to descend into insanity. I belive that the memory eraser uses some form of radiation to affect the neural conection of the brain and thus damaging and blocking memories, but prolonged exposure to this form of radiation is harmfull for the body, the psicolocall effect might also be a direct result of the umbalanced Brain chemestry.
The worst part is that the gibberish he was saying at the end “Yroo Xrksvi! Girzmotv!” If placed in the Atbash cipher translates to “Bill Cipher! Triangle!”. The very thing that he so desperately wanted to forget. He ended up losing everything else but the one thing he wanted gone remained in his mind haunting him
This one kinda kept me up at night. The idea of wiping your own memories so many times you lose it, it’s honestly really scary. Also, are we all just going to ignore the red spray paint on the wall behind him that says *’HELP ME’* ???
When stanford pulled mcGucket out of the portal he started saying gibberish When you reverse those word it sounded like the same thing he said at 1:25 when its reversed
anyone else find it mildly unsettling that there's a FIVE-DAY-GAP between him erasing his memory, and proclaiming it worked five days after the blast? I mean, was he unconscious, or a vegetable, or what happened to Stan happened to him, but worse?
Maybe he wanted to test it for 5 days if he could still remember something or not. Once he realized he couldn't recall a thing then he claims "It worked!"
Jayson Klein Reckon he was “fine” for those days, but played straight not remembering he erased anything to begin with; after that Day 1 shot, Fiddleford ‘awakens’ in front of a camera, holding a alien-gun looking thing, with no idea what he was doing except for his notes, _if_ he immediately checked them. Maybe he doesn’t even pick up that anything’s amiss, figuring he just fell asleep at his table, and left to go home. Four days later, he sees Ford, hears he’s no longer working with him, and looks at his notes. “Welp, I... guess that worked!”
I never realized it in the moment, but that second to last memory may be the saddest one. The final turning point between Fiddleford and ‘Old Man McGucket’. You can see the last bit of sanity in his eyes as he realizes his pants are on backwards. And he has seemingly nothing to erase on this tape. He’s just there. The last of his unbroken mind just waiting to go.😢
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
Fiddleford is such a good, one might even say overpowered character, and here’s why: 1. He is used in the prophecy wheel to defeat Bill Cipher 2. He is impervious to memory gun/rays. 3. Even without his sanity reclaimed, he could still remember his engineering and mechanic skills, and all of the unknown creatures Ford told him about, BEFORE getting his memory and sanity back. These are just 3 out of dozens of reasons why Fiddleford McGucket is such a good and underrated character. Like, literally. He is impervious to a FREAKING MEMORY GUN!!!!!!!
While reading the my own copy of the cannon Journal 3, I realized how sad his story was. He left his wife and son, his entire family behind just to help Ford with the experiments. The first time he created that gun was after a certain deadly experience with a Gravity Falls creature. Soon after, he started deteriorating, ford noticed this and ended up having the gun used on him, forgetting most of the interactions Fiddleford had with the townspeople. He started to give out invitations to people in the town to join his society. One of which was the man with the bald head, he was from a freakshow the Ford and him visited. He kept using the gun until the incident, of which he disappeared, never seen by Ford again. That's likely when he overused it. His family called him out on his insanity and disowned him. That's why he tries to redeem himself to his son during the Gobblewonker episode.
This is my most favourite scene in the series, as well as the saddest for me. If McGucket never approved to help Ford in the first place, he would've been a revolutionary computer inventor instead of being an insane hillbilly. I feel bad for him, man. His whole life was ruined.
I like to believe when he mentioned he came across a colony of little men, he’s referring to the same creatures featured in the GF short “dippers guide to the unexplained: Candy Monster”
Of course my two favorite shows would have the same tragedy twist character development. Adventure Time and Gravity Falls are the best shows for a reason. TAKE NOTE OTHER ANIMATED SHOWS!
Well for starters where the hell did they put you, Flame Princess, they dropped that subplot and we haven't heard about it since. Everything has been REALLY WEIRD this season, I'm not saying I don't like weird I'm just sick of all these strange experimental writers fucking with the show's flow. Finn and Jake seem to have had post- traumatic. Stress disorder for at least a year now
probly cus everybody seen this before with simon and simon had more family that we know of his fiance betty his daughter marcy mcgucket only has a son that we know of wich hates him
Yeah, but if you think about it. It's really upsetting how just erasing his memories a few time causes him to lose his successful future, ending him up in a dumpster.
Unlike Simon and Smeagol, McGuckett did this to himself time after time. He created the device, so he should have tested it better and found out the side effects. Simon and Smeagol were both pretty much forced into their situations.
Venom0027 Rewatch the video. He didn't have the time to test it better. How is he gonna test it better anyway? He needed to make the device right away cause he didn't want to be haunted forever. Sure he "did it to himself" but I think he only used it just a few times and afterwards became too stupid to know that there would be side effects. I usually don't watch adventure time but why I can tell from Simon's is that he could've easily taken off the crown and destroyed it unless the crown was consuming his sanity or whatever.
Bro this part hit me harfer than a ton of bricks. I still cant hardly believe such a backstory of a descent into madness from pure horror fueled amnesia was allowed in a show like this! Props to Alex Hirsh and the Gravity Falls team, you gave us all the extreme existentialism and fear and speculation, as well as all the heartwarmingand tearjerking love (and top tier humor)
Now it makes sense on why he was always so paranoid, because deep deep down he still knows that he had seen some terrible things even if he doesn’t know what they are.
The fact that it only took roughly about a year and a half (618 days is 1 year, 8 months, 1 week and 6 days) for him to get into the state he is now, and about 30 years living like that is just depressing.
Hm...the encoded message and finger gesture at the end both allude heavily to Bill Cipher. Okay, this might be a long shot, but I think I know how Bill might be related to McGucket's transformation. At the beginning he says he "lies awake at night." We know that Bill can control people's dreams. In "Sock Opera" Bill is hellbent on destroying the journal, suggesting that the author found something that Bill wants to keep hidden. Therefore, Bill would probably want to silence McGucket, so he entered McGucket's dreams and gave him terrible nightmares that made it impossible for him to sleep and reminded him of his involvement in the author's research. Finally, Bill planted the idea for the memory gun in one of McGucket's dreams, ensuring that McGucket's knowledge would be hidden forever and establishing a convenient way for Bill to silence people who got too close to the truth.
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I actually had ptsd and what he described best described what it was like " I wish I can forget but I keep getting flashbacks" I wanted to erase it but no matter how hard I tried it wont leave my mind
Its so crazy to look back on this, i remember when this episode first came out and i was so mind blown by the crazy revelation that a comedic side character secretly played a important role in the whole series itself, i wish this cliche was used more on shows nowadays
ironically, out of all the memories he lost, the only thing he remembered is the one he first tried to get rid of
Shows that what lies through the portal is just way too much for the human brain
@@eterty8335 yet Grunkle Ford managed to retain his insanity for some reason (?).
If there is a difference I want to know.
@@snowhunter7536 cause probably when ford met Bill the first time he wasn't creeped out by it and of course the other monsters he's been finding and logging on his journal
@@snowhunter7536 It's probably because either Bill (or the creatures that would later become his army) intentionally drove Fiddleford insane, or held himself (themselves?) back when Ford came through.
He speaks backwards when he comes through, something we really only see in relation to Bill.
Or maybe it was just incomprehensible and Fiddleford wasn't prepared.
@@snowhunter7536 it is because there is metal in his head
I remember back in the day when a "leaked" picture of McGucket showed him writing in a Journal and everyone believed that he was the Author. Good times
lmao I love the fact that Alex Hirsch made the hoax to throw people off the trail
@@fetch7312 that was like the greatest hoax ever!
Omg I remember loll
I litterally came from the video explaining the McGucket hoax.
Troll 100
You notice at the very end of the log. He formed a triangle with his hands. That means the memories of Bill Cipher is still there deep inside of him.
Not only a triangle, but a triangle with his eye in the triangle
He also says "YROO XRKSVI GIRZMTOV", which is a cipher for "BILL CIPHER TRIANGLE".
It's the same thing he says when he accidentally gets sucked into the portal in Stan's backstory episode.
Yeah. It been debunked 10 years ago. Or at least more than 5 years ago.
@@Mooni_Real probably why he called it the society of the blind eye, he wanted to remove any memories of Bill
@@alexlovelady8249 you know I find it weird no one theorized that the society of the blind eyes had a major factor is stopping bill cause think about if someone started finding the mysteries and go crazy they would've found him
Now I understand why Ford felt extremely guilty to him...
Well it's not ENTIRELY his fault.He started it,no doubt about that,but McGuckett really only needed it once, it's his fault he kept using it for petty things.
@@xqueen1234 I think he kept using it because of all the weird things that he kept seeing around the town, always reminding him of what he saw through that portal.
Like with Stan, as long as you have something that’ll help you remember what you forgot, McGucket would’ve never forgotten about the other side of that portal.
@@Rick-ty9ky damn i guess there were some epic shit through that portal but.. idk. ford spent years there and he came back just fine. maybe just mcgucket was a soft man
@@bosshard64 McGuckett apparently saw Bill remove his own exoskeleton which terrified him. I think Ford didn’t see something like that
@@cesartheguy9413 one thing also funny in the end when mcgucket makes a triangle with his fingers which means he never actually got rid of bills memories with that machine but erased everything else, including his sanity
The worst part is that mcgucket is around the same age or even younger than Stanford, but he looks much older probably due to unimaginable stress
wouldn't he not have "stress" due to having forgotten what was causing his "stress" in the first place
@@DNKG669 it could have been happening underneath all that. he didn’t forget completely, just made it harder to remember. he regained his memory
If I'm not mistaking, Ford and McGucket were in college together, so I would assume they're around the same age
I think it's more likely to be a side-effect of memory erasure.
@@DNKG669 He just forgot that he remembered. But he still remembered.
He didn’t just delete his memory. He accelerated his own aging and fried his brain.
I think part of that could be not taking care of himself while going insane but it is weird that his hair goes pure old man white after 2 years from being less than middle aged man
@@striker8961 It’s also weird that he still fully has his mechanical genius skills
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 I suppose that might just be a skill ingrained into him, or more likely just a hint from the show runners that he’s more than he seems
He didn't use Rick Sanchez's perfected version of the brain eraser.
@@striker8961 Stress makes your hair go white faster. For a man haunted by what he once saw and what he kept seeing, it's only fair that happened.
This gives me strong Ice King vibes. A character while at a glace lacks depth, through further inspection there is more. While trying to protect themselves and others, they suffered greatly, losing both themselves and their sanity.
I knew I wasn’t the only person who believed they felt similar
Ice king.. Man I miss Adventure Time. Welp, time to Rewatch!
I wonder come with first gravity fall or adventure time since both scene have similar outcomes lol
@@christopherlake9667
Both the show, Adventure Time, and the episode where the tapes reveal Ice King’s backstory, were released before Gravity Falls
@@theparrishshow9803 so diseny copy that scene lol
I just realized McGucket's glasses are symbolic of his sanity. In the flashback, he first lost them when he was testing the portal. In these videos, he lost his glasses at one point when he tore out his hair. After he sees his memories, he puts on some glasses with a missing lenses to signify he's regained his sanity. Even if it's a bit broken, like he said, he can start to put himself back together again.
And if we go with this interpretation in day 189 the lent is cracked and the glasses were slipping.
SO THS IS WHY GLASSES WERE HIS SYMBOL ON CIPHER WHEEL!
That's some real mature junk right there
You are so fricking smart:3
Yo I really want another season of this show I love this my mom bought me the actual copy of journal 3 and a Gravity Falls "don't color this book, it's cursed" coloring book!
This was honestly so sad, watching him lose his mind. Sure McGucket is funny and kooky, but watching this just makes you feel bad
In the end he gets the Northwest manor all for himself. So he ends up ok. Some silver lining i guess.
At least he is sane again.
I always knew he was a genius of some kind when he made that robotic Loch Ness monster
@@xqueen1234 He did also create that giant robot for Gideon
Post awareness confusions
This is just so sad. His famiy left him after he went insane. He was a brilliant person, before.
He still smart, he build a lot of machines over the show
@@gustavoc4131
True and it has something to do with muscle memories. Though he had no idea how he identify each objects but once he touch it he remembered that it needs to be attached.
When the series credits rolled in, his son(the fishing shop guy) was with him on the lake or pool i guess. I wonder what was his early days like and how his family split up and his son in gravity falls. Since MGucket was from Colorado
Vincentalot-XD Ms.Yawhaw Oh actually he was from Palo Alto, but he was born in Tennessee and his family had no money. The Journal 3 book has all that stuff about him and more, he’s definitely my favourite character.
Hasna Aryantha he still is so brilliant
When I first watched this part, I was worried he would smash the memories or something stupid like that and deliver a dumb message like "I know who I am, and I don't need nothing to tell me otherwise!".
I was so glad he saw his memories and learned about his true self.
That kinda happened, but in a better way.
Yowlife? What are you doing here.
I mean that would’ve been meaningful too. Considering people irl can lose bad memories and not want them back but still know who they are.
omg
@@quirkyblackenby yeah buts so cliche
I think this is important to show how Stanley Pines got his memory back, Mcgucket was starting to remember as soon as he saw his memories on the screen, even after years had gone by. Why couldn't Grunkle Stan regain his memories using Mabel's scrapbook??
If Fiddleford is allowed to get his memories back, then Stan is too, dang it!
*Aggressively flips table*
but he did...
Theory. The device that McGucket made didn't erase any memories like he thought it did. All that happens is that it creates some kind of mental block around the given subject. People block out bad memories all the time,, and the device forces the reaction inside their head.
@@prosecutorwalton Not really. More like device reduces strength of memories, but is unable to erase them completely. Basically, it makes it much harder to remember, but it never actually makes you forget.
He did though
I remember when they leaked a picture of Mcgucket writing the journals to prevent a fan theory that Stanley really had a twin brother. And it worked.
The fact they prevented a fan theory that would end up actually being correct to make Stanford’s reveal really shocking was really clever.
The first time i saw this I felt really bad for him...
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***** now it's just kinda neutral
I still feel bad
+Isaac Piccolo this remind me about simon petrikov
Me too
1:25 The one thing he's been trying to forget remains while everything else was lost.
He says "Bill Cipher Triangle in atbash code
"I HIT ANOTHER CAR IN TOWN TODAY!"
Wait... Another?
Who do we know that used a car wreck as a cover up story?....
On day 78 he saud he come across little men possibly the gnomes
I like that but i think he means that he was driving a car and he hit another car as in a different car than his own.
😱
@@lavaman8836 just like LAZY SUSAN!
Or maybe that's how he broke his arm.
For a "kids show" Gravity Falls sure had some tragic characters. McGucket, a guy who wanted to help his college buddy change the world, foresaw that he'd helped destroy, and when he tried to forget it, he forgot himself
This is why I both love and hate this show. Love it because it’s extremely complex and deep with a lot mystery and hard work put into it. Hate it because of Mabel and her selfishness!
@Cathal Carson literally yes, people act like Mabel is this great character, she's not. Dipper is ALWAYS the one having to make sacrifices for her
@@zman4002
There’s one guy, I can’t remember his name, but he makes such an effort to try and defend Mabel by making excuses on why she isn’t the worse. And his excuse is “she’s not real, why are you complaining about how unrealistic she is”. Meanwhile another user makes great points on why Mabel is terrible and why some of the excuses don’t work and why her “redemption arc” felt lack lustre.
@@ulfberht4431You should know another Official Gravity FallS book by the creators themselves called "Gravity Falls: LosT Legends"
@@zman4002 You Should know another Official GraviTy Falls book by the creators themselves called "Gravity Falls: Lost Legends
for some reason he never forgotten the memory of bill cipher
sadly he failed because the end message was bill cipher triangle in a different language he also said it after he went through the portal
@@lilredrobyn44 so that means that Stan also technically never forgot either 👀
@@lilredrobyn44 Tbf here, that likely got rigged into his mind regardless, since Cosmic Horrors tend to do that.
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@@groovydudewithdumbintentions I totally didn't turn my phone upside down and crane my neck just to read this
It is so creepy that on days 74 and 189 we can see the words HELP ME scrawled in red across the wall, possibly in blood.
Ernest Jon Gimeno Zulueta A.K.A WORKER OF SECRETS its Hadron, like the Collider
that would take a lot of blood to make the lettering that big.
maybe perhaps he used pig's blood.
@@jasperquartz4612 Or maybe he just stumbled across some red paint :P
it’s jam.
Its jam....
I hope
Bruh it only took less than two years to transform him into some senile grandpa
no that was 30 years
how is he still alive
Not sure if 2 the number exceed from year 2 to year 3 to ??? Probably, 30 seems reasonable enough or 20
@@linus5183 How come it only says Day 618 tho when he has the beard
shit you’re right-
I really like how they handled McGucket in this episode. The guy lost eventually lost everything: his marriage, his relationship with his son and his sanity. I really like the glimmer of hope for McGucket at the end.
People will compare Ice King/Simon and Old Man McGucket. McGucket was given his salvation and has the ability to move forward. Whereas Simon's only salvation will come with taking off the crown, getting his mind back and accepting that his fiance is dead and letting go.
but his fiance isnt dead and is in the land of ooo trying to save him.
But yes, i agree that McGucket was done really well here.
Taking off the crown wont reverse it's effects, it'll cause ice king to think more clearly but he won't be sane by a long shot. If the crown's magics are dispelled improperly Simon will just age to death. But Betty is now in ooo and is looking for a proper way.
Simon's only salvation, it seems, will come with despelling the crown and finally accepting Death.
if that isnt stated as fact by the people who made it then I don't accept it. Cause that would be a very despair inducing conclusion.
Simon is stuck in 1000 years in the future where their is no human civilization like how he was before.
Betty died or turned into Golb. Simon is way better.
"YROO! XRKSVI! GRZMTOV!"
Translates to:
"BILL! CIPHER! TRIANGLE!"
Really?! What kind of cipher is that?
Atbash I think.
Yep, ATBASH.
Thank you i spent like 2 hours looking for a youtube reverser then i looked at the comments should have done that first.
domki366 Holy shit, if you reverse what Fiddleford says in ATOTS, it's this message.
Alex you genius!
On the last day recorded, or Day ???, it may sound like McGucket is just saying nonsense. Believe it or not, he is talking in a cipher. The Atbash cipher. He says "YROO. XRKSVI. GIRZMTOV." Gibberish without being decoded. When decoded, it reads "BILL. CIPHER. TRIANGLE." To further show that, he makes a triangle shape in front of his eye.
I saw that too!
Joseph garcia Some were speculating Stanley was fighting Bill in the room with the universe portal, then Stanford rushed in but was too late.
If anyone remembers the image Bill conjured up of Stan (not the tattoo) during the negotiations with Gideon, you'll understand this theory...
nice!! it all makes sense now
Then he made a triangle on his eye, like Bill too!
Joseph garcia Ciphers are canon, not just used hideously without characters knowing?
I think it's so scary that someone so intellegent can go nuts over a thing he saw.
It was when he looked in the portal
@@lavaman8836 It was actually when he saw the Gremgoblin and looked into it's eyes. But he began using it way more after the portal. This was revealed in the Journal 3 book.
@@zarchblarch2490
Really? Because the way it sounds in the clip of him talking about the portal, it sounds like he’s using it for the very first time.
“I believe I have invented a machine that can erase these memories from my mind.”
“It worked! I can’t recall a thing!”
This is dark but it sort of reminded me of event horizon
Props, Disney. This is some pretty dark stuff.
give props to alex
lel
+Mettaton Wearing A Frogit T-Shirt all the credit goes to him and his crew , seriously disney won't give him a DVD release
Tyleah Morales In the Owl House, literally
Extra bit of information, in the comic that takes place after the finale, the leader of the blind eye’s face can be seen being sold by a demon who sells faces in an anomalous black market.
"Yroo Xrksvi! Girzmtov!" on Atbash means "Bill Cipher! Triangle!".
The triangle on the eye gesture gives it away.
I won't be able to look at "The Legend of the Gobblewonker" the same way after this...
I’m 4 years late, but I rewatched that episode today, and this was exactly what I was thinking about :(
Now they know his terribibble secret. They know... that he used to wear glasses!
Thomas D ADVENTURE TIME
Terrible. I've been forgetting words recently.
I wonder if there is any negative side effects...
*STATIC*
dude, stop using that eraser, youre starting to forget words.
Fiddlefords voice slowly progressing is by far the best part
Alex Hirsch is a vocal god XD
1:19
He slowly became more hillbilly the more he forgets
0:10
I can see how gentle and kind-hearted Mabel is.
Despite she disliked the first time she saw him.
Oh man, it's Simon Petrikov all over again! THE FEELS!
I was going to say that lol
yroo
xrksvi
grzmtov
+NerdyEspurr True
IM NOT ALONE !!!!!!!!
THIS MAGIC KEEPS ME ALIVE BUT ITS MAKING ME CRAZY
My favorite part about this video is that it explains why McGucket's beard has a bandage on it. Clearly he put it on his face after he hit another car and left it there as the beard started growing in. XD
i have always wonderd why his beard had a bandaid and no one pointed it out like he said himself
He even wonders himself why it's there.
1:28 you can clearly see, his subconscious mind still remembers bill.
@ amogus
1:01-1:30
Plot Twist: He got bitten by an aggressive gnome when he came across the colony and it results in a gradual gnome transformation.
That’s something I learned about.
I like how Gravity Falls first wrote McGucket's character as being the stereotypical crazy hillbilly that everyone tries to avoid, but then delves deeper into the storyline by turning him into an amnesiac genius, who slowly begins to retain his memories and pushes him into the mystery of the entire show
Like the Ice King
Pretty sure the creators had it planned out from the start
@@ItsOnlyObi Well, yeah. I just mean that he wasn't just there as a joke character
@@kittenclysm116 oh yeau
It also helps that he got his sanity back and became a millionaire by the end of it, even buying the Northwests' mansion for his own.
Its just weird how he transformed from average human height to short old man
Maybe its the way he stands with two wide legs and bent back now? If you imagine mcgucket standing normally he'd be the same height as before
@@chodaricat4739 ok that actually make sense i guess
Getting rid of his memories might’ve taken away some tissue/cells from his brain, making him stop growing. How he became shorter, McGucket knows..
@@B1SK17 What happen to his house cuz he would live in that motel, then the junkyard, also was he already going insane or was it bc he was over using it
@@B1SK17 Where was grunkle stan(ley) when this all happened
I think Mcgucket is underrated. He’s a great character.
Also just wanna say he looks cool with the goggles lol
Me first seeing Mcgucket: “Ah good, a causal comedic-relief charact-“
**Dark and relevant backstory**
_Sigh…_
"Go ahead and take your best shot! You can't break what's already broken!"
One of the freakish quotes of the show.
Wow after seeing what hes seen, he actually gone crazy while he was working with Stanford it reminds me of that Adventure Time Simon Petrikov scene
Exactly! The moment he put the tape to run and the video started I just remembered that first glimpse of who Simon was in Aventure Time during the Christmas, when they put the tape and we saw the of Simon tl Ice King
Good artists imitate.
Great companies steal.
I like how they set up early on that you can get your memories back with familiar images. These aren’t memories being beamed back into his head, it’s recordings of those interviews the society does right before wiping your memory.
There's realism in this. People dont seem to realize that even the most brilliant and intelligent people still have a limit to how much trauma they can mentally handle.
The problem is more that McGucket built that device to forget what he saw in the portal, but then began to abuse it to avoid anything, becoming a coward incapable of facing problems. Same thing for the rest of the Society of the Blind Eye.
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
I love how he accepts who he is and decides to move forward
he’d get along with ice king
I'm sure this will become a stereotype "the smart man who had a good life, slowly degrading it's sanity"
@@drakorex9 emperor belos is going down that path if he turns out to actually be phillip wittebane
90th like
If only I could use the memory gun to erase manga spoilers for the aot final season
Aot?
@@B1SK17 attack on titan
@@kaylaanselmo9136 thank you. what is it lol
@@B1SK17 *inhales slowly* only one of the best animes ever made.
@@B1SK17 great manga with a shit ending
1:35 Speaks for every one who ever saw this.
"old man mcgucket, spittin in a bucket"
So he learned the terrible existential truth... but cleared it out of his mind to preserve his sanity... then ended up losing his sanity anyway, directly BECAUSE of his method of protecting himself... and somewhere deep in his subconscious, still remembered the original horrifying knowledge that drove him down that path in the first place.
Now there's a story arc H P Lovecraft would be proud of...
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
This is a really touching scene to be honest. Really sad to see one of the most brilliant scientists become something like this.
1:33 made me sit there with an open jar. What a cartoon this is. Amazing stuff, Disney.
What use to be in that jar?
Kyle Campbell No one knows. *puts on McGucket voice* IT'S A MYSTERY!
...why did you have a jar?
Did you mean jaw
Idk why you'd sit there with a jar lol
jar???
"Let's give him buck teeth" - Wendy
But Wendy, Mabel already drew him buck teeth
Every single character in Gravity Falls was amazing.
Alex Hirsch has so many voices. It’s hard to believe he voiced both Grunkle Stan and this old kook. They don’t sound anywhere near the same
The dude has crazy range
Wait, if the video screen shows what the memories inside the canister are, why did it show Mcguckit talking to a camera and use the gun on himself?
Shouldn't that have been the scene of him going into the portal?
YowLife I think he was going into the portal and quit and just do record himself talking?
@@jaketheartist8093 What?
I don’t think the actual memories can be recorded. The society is shown recording people describing their memories before using the gun, which is where those recordings come from. As shown in the last episode with Stan, the memories can still be regained if the subject is reminded, so those recordings are probably made to facilitate this process, allowing subjects to regain their lost memories if necessary.
I was just wondering that
could've just programmed the recordings into the cannister
This is deep and philosophical.
If you can't learn from your mistakes, you're doomed to repeat them. Never forget.
This looks really familiar... Old man who's lost his mind and memories, is now a miserable guy who everyone makes fun of, but is revealed to have once been a brilliant scientist through video logs, lost his mind trying to investigate supernatural stuff? ...Simon Pterikov? They even look a bit similar.
Still cool though.
PITCH BLACK!!!!!!
Fun fact: Alex Hirsch and Pendleton Ward both worked on flapjack
1:53 How did I not notice where he slipped the memory canister LMAO
He stuffed it in the beard.
I think those were pants, dunno.
That's the pocket of his overalls
@@satyakisil4289 in his pocket
That's his overalls pocket
Mabel has learned a very important lesson in that episode, just because nobody likes to have bad memories but it is important to learn the bad things that had happened and use those experiences to be more helpful in the future.
Did anyone notice that by day 189, Mcgucket hair is greyish when in day 74 his hair is still brown, this kinda implies that besife causing damage to the mind (And quite possible brain) to victim, prolonged exposure/usage of the Memory Eraser also causes visible phsicall effect like loosing the color of one's hair.
This could implied that the memory eraser also affects the chesmistry of the body negatively and quite possible it's celular structure.
Also notice how Fiedelford gradually became shorter as he started to descend into insanity.
I belive that the memory eraser uses some form of radiation to affect the neural conection of the brain and thus damaging and blocking memories, but prolonged exposure to this form of radiation is harmfull for the body, the psicolocall effect might also be a direct result of the umbalanced Brain chemestry.
It accelerates aging and causes dementia or something.
now that is fascinating
I like this theory
The worst part is that the gibberish he was saying at the end “Yroo Xrksvi! Girzmotv!” If placed in the Atbash cipher translates to “Bill Cipher! Triangle!”. The very thing that he so desperately wanted to forget. He ended up losing everything else but the one thing he wanted gone remained in his mind haunting him
1:02 the wall says “help me”
IT DOES
That gibbrish at the end isn't actually gibbrish, it's a sort of language that translates to "BILL CIPHER! TRIANGLE!"
Uhm...I think it's 3 letters back o-o
YROO XRKSVI GIRZMTOV!
It's atbash.
WHAT DID YOU DO TO McGUCKET, DEMON?!
It's Atbash or sumthin
1:24 In this part he says "Bill Cipher Triangle" in atbash code. Like if he says that
This one kinda kept me up at night. The idea of wiping your own memories so many times you lose it, it’s honestly really scary.
Also, are we all just going to ignore the red spray paint on the wall behind him that says *’HELP ME’* ???
Let’s be honest
That’s not spray paint
I think that’s not spray paint
It's uh... Blood.
When stanford pulled mcGucket out of the portal he started saying gibberish
When you reverse those word it sounded like the same thing he said at 1:25 when its reversed
Yroo xrksvi grzmatov means Bill Cipher Triangle in atbash cipher
*girzmtov
votamzrg ivskrx oorY
I'm proud of how mcgucket handled that, as crazy as he is, he's got a good heart and wants to move on with his life for the better❤
It makes sense when you also remember early in season 1 McGucket’s love for inventions even tho he was crazy.
anyone else find it mildly unsettling that there's a FIVE-DAY-GAP between him erasing his memory, and proclaiming it worked five days after the blast?
I mean, was he unconscious, or a vegetable, or what happened to Stan happened to him, but worse?
Maybe he wanted to test it for 5 days if he could still remember something or not. Once he realized he couldn't recall a thing then he claims "It worked!"
Jayson Klein Reckon he was “fine” for those days, but played straight not remembering he erased anything to begin with; after that Day 1 shot, Fiddleford ‘awakens’ in front of a camera, holding a alien-gun looking thing, with no idea what he was doing except for his notes, _if_ he immediately checked them. Maybe he doesn’t even pick up that anything’s amiss, figuring he just fell asleep at his table, and left to go home.
Four days later, he sees Ford, hears he’s no longer working with him, and looks at his notes.
“Welp, I... guess that worked!”
Mcgucket's downfall was heartbreaking to see.
Am I the only one who thinks Mc Gucket (when he was younger) was actually really cute.
I'm guessing just me
Nope
I agree
Samee.
Much Super Cutie.
Nope.
SAAAAAME SAME SAAAAME
Uh
I never realized it in the moment, but that second to last memory may be the saddest one. The final turning point between Fiddleford and ‘Old Man McGucket’. You can see the last bit of sanity in his eyes as he realizes his pants are on backwards. And he has seemingly nothing to erase on this tape. He’s just there. The last of his unbroken mind just waiting to go.😢
I see the memory gun as a drug. A drug Fiddleford took to make himself feel better, but soon he got addicted to it after it just made him feel so good. But the drug made him crazy and kooky as a side effect, and he’s used it so much his mind crumbled.
Fiddleford is such a good, one might even say overpowered character, and here’s why:
1. He is used in the prophecy wheel to defeat Bill Cipher
2. He is impervious to memory gun/rays.
3. Even without his sanity reclaimed, he could still remember his engineering and mechanic skills, and all of the unknown creatures Ford told him about, BEFORE getting his memory and sanity back.
These are just 3 out of dozens of reasons why Fiddleford McGucket is such a good and underrated character. Like, literally. He is impervious to a FREAKING MEMORY GUN!!!!!!!
I remember feeling so bad for McGucket when I watched this episode for the first time. It was so sad to watch his descent into madness.
Scenes like this in kids show gets more disturbing when you're older and painfully aware of how real people completely losing their minds is...
That slow descent into madness and bringing the character we just thought of as comic relief into a whole new light.
This is soo dark, the background changes already after day 22. That's very creepy
While reading the my own copy of the cannon Journal 3, I realized how sad his story was. He left his wife and son, his entire family behind just to help Ford with the experiments. The first time he created that gun was after a certain deadly experience with a Gravity Falls creature. Soon after, he started deteriorating, ford noticed this and ended up having the gun used on him, forgetting most of the interactions Fiddleford had with the townspeople. He started to give out invitations to people in the town to join his society. One of which was the man with the bald head, he was from a freakshow the Ford and him visited. He kept using the gun until the incident, of which he disappeared, never seen by Ford again. That's likely when he overused it. His family called him out on his insanity and disowned him. That's why he tries to redeem himself to his son during the Gobblewonker episode.
This is my most favourite scene in the series, as well as the saddest for me. If McGucket never approved to help Ford in the first place, he would've been a revolutionary computer inventor instead of being an insane hillbilly. I feel bad for him, man. His whole life was ruined.
Poor McSuckit
he became rich in the final episode though
I like to believe when he mentioned he came across a colony of little men, he’s referring to the same creatures featured in the GF short “dippers guide to the unexplained: Candy Monster”
"The Society of the Blind Eye" sounds more like an SCP Foundation interest group.
2:23 this is like the Morty’s mind blowers episode of Rick and Morty. Except Mabel learns from her mistakes.
Old man with long beard
Watching old video footage of himself
Genius that wore glasses
Went crazy
Forgot who he was
McGucket is the Ice King confirmed
*BETTY*
Yeah I was just thinking about that
But he is a mechanical genius hes not crazy
Of course my two favorite shows would have the same tragedy twist character development. Adventure Time and Gravity Falls are the best shows for a reason. TAKE NOTE OTHER ANIMATED SHOWS!
Same to me and i agree with your opinion!
But adventure time is shit.
Now its shit, seasons 1-5 were okay.
Season six has lost so much focus, its because pen ward left.
Well for starters where the hell did they put you, Flame Princess, they dropped that subplot and we haven't heard about it since. Everything has been REALLY WEIRD this season, I'm not saying I don't like weird I'm just sick of all these strange experimental writers fucking with the show's flow. Finn and Jake seem to have had post- traumatic. Stress disorder for at least a year now
Reminds me of when Fin and Jack saw the recordings of Simon Patricov and how he became the Ice King.
domidium Finn and Jake*
And Pertrikov*
Well, atleast this is less emotional then Simon Petrikov.
probly cus everybody seen this before with simon and simon had more family that we know of his fiance betty his daughter marcy mcgucket only has a son that we know of wich hates him
Yeah, but if you think about it. It's really upsetting how just erasing his memories a few time causes him to lose his successful future, ending him up in a dumpster.
Unlike Simon and Smeagol, McGuckett did this to himself time after time. He created the device, so he should have tested it better and found out the side effects. Simon and Smeagol were both pretty much forced into their situations.
Venom0027 Rewatch the video. He didn't have the time to test it better. How is he gonna test it better anyway? He needed to make the device right away cause he didn't want to be haunted forever. Sure he "did it to himself" but I think he only used it just a few times and afterwards became too stupid to know that there would be side effects. I usually don't watch adventure time but why I can tell from Simon's is that he could've easily taken off the crown and destroyed it unless the crown was consuming his sanity or whatever.
I wish this WAS as emotional as Simon's. Emotional stuff is awesome
This reminds me of when Finn and Jake found the ice kings video tapes and they learned who he used to be
0:35 hey its that head from dippers guide to the unexplained
"I've done a lot of forgetting,maybe I should try forgiving."
~Fiddleford Mcgucket.
This was such a hilariously heavy scene. This may be my favourite moment in Gravity Falls now.
OLD MAN MCGUCKET
*ＳＰＩＴＩＮ ＩＮ Ａ ＢＵＣＫＥＴ*
Bro this part hit me harfer than a ton of bricks. I still cant hardly believe such a backstory of a descent into madness from pure horror fueled amnesia was allowed in a show like this! Props to Alex Hirsh and the Gravity Falls team, you gave us all the extreme existentialism and fear and speculation, as well as all the heartwarmingand tearjerking love (and top tier humor)
Now it makes sense on why he was always so paranoid, because deep deep down he still knows that he had seen some terrible things even if he doesn’t know what they are.
This is the lockdown in a nutshell
The fact that it only took roughly about a year and a half (618 days is 1 year, 8 months, 1 week and 6 days) for him to get into the state he is now, and about 30 years living like that is just depressing.
The start of quarantine 0:24
1 month in 1:01
3 months in quarantine 1:07
5 months in 1:16
6 months in 1:19
The start of 2021 1:25
That was funny lol
Hm...the encoded message and finger gesture at the end both allude heavily to Bill Cipher.
Okay, this might be a long shot, but I think I know how Bill might be related to McGucket's transformation. At the beginning he says he "lies awake at night." We know that Bill can control people's dreams. In "Sock Opera" Bill is hellbent on destroying the journal, suggesting that the author found something that Bill wants to keep hidden. Therefore, Bill would probably want to silence McGucket, so he entered McGucket's dreams and gave him terrible nightmares that made it impossible for him to sleep and reminded him of his involvement in the author's research. Finally, Bill planted the idea for the memory gun in one of McGucket's dreams, ensuring that McGucket's knowledge would be hidden forever and establishing a convenient way for Bill to silence people who got too close to the truth.
SO TRUE!!! seriously i liked it.... but i would prefer to learn that myself, i wish i could forget about it
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I actually had ptsd and what he described best described what it was like " I wish I can forget but I keep getting flashbacks" I wanted to erase it but no matter how hard I tried it wont leave my mind
I hope you’re doing better
0:17me when I accidentally walk in on my grandpa naked.
When I first watched this scene, my jaw was dropping with each entry. This was absolutely genius writing!
Its so crazy to look back on this, i remember when this episode first came out and i was so mind blown by the crazy revelation that a comedic side character secretly played a important role in the whole series itself, i wish this cliche was used more on shows nowadays
I just realized that he put a triangle over his eye.
Bill Cipher.