Honestly I watch these after watching an episode to see if I got the same interpretation of the episode as other people (and see if anyone notices anything I overlooked)
@@baumintrack2745 That was his only fault. I kept thinking the whole time why the fuck did he make them sentient and not just complete bots since he just wanted slaves anyway.
@@ephemal Them who? Computer programs? Do you think its torture for characters to die over and over in a video game like turtles in Mario Bros games then?
Until the AI, after learning to manipulate real people in the real world to strike out against gamers it is competing against through in-game NPCs... is the AI going to go on to figure out how to trick more human players into death? This horror story is like a virtual version of Westworld; NPCs (instead of robots) being aware of repeated suffering inflicted by human players have developed the knowledge/skill/capability of influencing real people to help it attack its gaming opponents in the real world. You telling me this is going to be a one-off?
If you really think about it. This has a depressing ending. Imagine you being bullied in real life takes his revenge on computer simulated only for you to get killed on christmas eve
The only thing I didn’t understand was Daly’s lack of admin permissions in his own game despite having such immense manipulation powers. I felt he would’ve been able to teleport onto the ship when they were going to the wormhole
They would probably have some kind of safety system in place, right? I mean you could get stuck if a game crashed and the "exit game" command wouldn't work. Daly deserved the ending he got, but I think as a genius, he would have had a failsafe mechanism just in case, especially since he lives alone and has no one to "wake him up" by removing the implant.
I think that is the beauty of the episode. He likely hacked the system so much that some failsafes were removed. He likely thought he was safe because he was the admin and there was no reasonable way for that to be removed. In reality, it would be impossible to be trapped since such a system could only suggest, not control. Removing or powering down the device would just reset back to your regular mental state. Generally such virtual worlds work kind of like creating a copy or clone uploading to the virtual world, putting the original body in a coma. In this case, it is entirely possible that if you removed failsafe, then the machine would not be able to pull you out of the coma like state. It is beautiful because it goes along with the hubris of the villain character. He fucked himself and in the end was his biggest enemy.
@@JacobSantosDev the system of the game shouldnt matter,he is still using an interface machine and a physical head piece,those things in any realistic scenario would have some kind of security,like if youve been connected for X ammount of time it shut off unless you confirm,and as he wouldnt confirm it turns off
You know what's funny, he invented a device that can make a copy of your brain from a small DNA sample. He clould earn bilions on this idea alone. Image how many genius people would wanna to transfare their mind to live forever
@@paradoxzee6834 Good catch. I think his problem is he's petty and vindictive, and he mainly created that world to enslave and torture people who didn't pay him enough respect in the real world. He's not thinking of any positive use for it. He wants to be God who can smite people who don't serve him.
I LOVED this episode. It had the traditional darkness of Black Mirror which I've come to rely on (and enjoy), but it also ended on a positive note for the tortured AI characters and I would honestly watch a series based on their experience in the updated game.
Sed. I didn't want Daly to die, I just wanted him to freak out when he looked in to his mini fridge and found out all of the dna samples were gone. If he was going to stay stuck like that there was no need for them to blackmail Nanette to begin with. Although I get that they might have no way knowing that would happen.
@@kyt6087 I’m sure if there was a hypothetical situation where you were a clone in the near future you might care. They seem to feel pain, feel exactly the same as they do in their real life. Dale was a murderer really
i guess black mirror did this "happy ending" episode for us viewers to prepare our minds for some really sad ending on the remaining episodes for this season.
I absolutely LOVED this episode of Black Mirror. As a female gamer, you encounter men that express, "nice guys never win". You soon realize they aren't truly nice...they're wearing a mask and expect to be rewarded in the form of female attention. You can admire a guys intellect or verve, but it means nothing if he finds you attractive and you don't want to sleep with him. Guys like Daly are everywhere in the gaming community.
Which is why you never trust a "male feminist"...their just bullshiting to get close because a woman wouldn't talk to them otherwise. Pretty much much same for most men who are left leaning...
@@Casper5 yea because they sit around spending all their time playing video games. And then get mad because women don't desire them. Even though they have quite literally made themselves undesirable.
You say this like it's some kind of massive surprise. Yes, men will be nice to women they like to try to get their attention. Introverted guys who are unattractive and have low social skills do this on the internet. No wonder they're bitter and angry when women like you will imply that they're bad people for doing it.
most interesting thing though, this episode also shows the other episode "white christmas" almost being hypocritical. i mean in white christmas instead of actually punishing the real life person who did the crime, they instead torture the copied AI by making him listen to a christmas song on loop for thousands of years, but talk as though it's just AI. even when the guy forced the copy of the girl to serve as a house program to make toast. again, most of the humans in the episode don't care. only one person from what was spoken of, saying it was "barbaric" so in a way the guy who accidentally committed murder has a heart over those who didn't. strange. however in this episode they focus the entire thing on how even though they're just AI it's wrong and they should be set free without torture.
Okay im not saying he was in the right but this feels like an overly extreme punishment for being a sweaty gamer. Lets face it hes not even close to being the worst one out there.
@@YTonYahoo He killed a programmed kid. And after watching the rest of the series what he did here is extremely tame by comparison. Plus let's face it he is no where near the sweatiest gamer out there. Not even close.
Incredible episode; that last scene was epic! Includes a close up of a character, looking directly at the camera, that's normally a no-no, but here, it works just fine.
I think USS Callister lacks the moral dilemmas that most of the other Black Mirror episodes have because the real life versions of the people he clones aren't affected by anything he does to their virtual selves. If the real life people were somehow affected by his actions in the virtual world the episode would have hit the way it was intended.
That's the dilemma. Eventually, technology will advance to a point where programs will truely have the ability to observe, think and feel. Some of us will disregard the clones as merely software. While others will see the clones as sentinel beings that shouldn't be tortured. If he was capturing actual people then it wouldn't be a dilemma at all. I'd say it's one of the best episodes. Black mirror always does a great job exploring clones.
@@pizrux6592in the episode they talk about how it’s illegal to abuse cookies at that point in time are in the future season of becoming thing where you can’t do that to cookies anymore
Plot hole: "none of the buttons do anything" inside the bubble game, yet the new girl somehow hacked it to open settings and send off a message... lol?
Omg I literally felt nothing for the npc who thought they where real! The real people are still alive and aholes and Daly is real dead now. But hey his abused game people are free!! Wtf!! He was killed by a game AI and most people celebrate that!! Weird and sick!
Robert was a creep but he wasn't hurting anyone he was just trying to escape from his shitty life for a while just like many people who play videos games do. It was made how he wanted his fantasy to be and I'm sure many other people would love to make a world how they want it. I don't think he deserved what happened to him he should have had a back up plan incase the game crashed though.
I dont disagree completely but playing videogames and torturing sentient copies of people who didnt even do anything that wrong to you arent comparable
One of my favorite Black Mirror episodes. Although it does not leave me with a sense of dread, it is still deep and has themes that are well-explored and worth talking about.
Your brain is your mind and can be theoretically mapped and copied. Souls are a much more philosophical argument however. Some think they are tied to the body and mind, and isn’t he essence of doing this or creating a robot, you are creating a body and giving it a mind, which some would argue creates a new soul.
Strange that the video doesn't mention Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" about a sadistic AI who keeps a bunch of people alive to torture them for eternity. The removal of her mouth is a direct callback to the title of that story
Watching this episode now (prolly for like the 159th time). I find it ridiculous that in the beginning the black lady says Walton will FCK a sandwich before it hits the ground if you chuck it, but stay away from Daly because he gets “stary”.
The story it was lifted from is an Arthur C Clarke short story. Everyone in country town has to think good, happy thoughts or the little boy (with super powers) will do something nasty like bury them in a cornfield or turn them into a frog or something similar. At some point he wishes away the whole universe. I wish I could remember the name of the story it really affected me back in the 70's when I first read it.
This was actually 1 episode I didn’t watch. I saw the first 2 minutes and I was like “wth is this Star Trek nonsense”. Came back and watched it after S6 and it was great!😅
The actress is the mother from How I Met Your Mother. She is cute and quirky. The guy is Todd from Breaking Bad. Also in another video, I don’t have the link :( someone said that Daly lives in Room 402 for some error thing
Ngl. When watching this episode and Cole stole the DNA I was scared they would escape and he would exit the game to reinsert their DNA to only find it missing. He would then realize someone broke in and swab the DNA on the fridge and find out Cole broke into his flat. He would then torture her for the rest of eternity. Thats what I thought was gonna happen
1. Rannoch is also a planet from Mass Effect universe 2. 6:07 just for the self refraining from getting overboard with the references I won't hold it against you for not commenting about how similar this guy is to Khan in Star Trek II
When Daly took away her face that was horrifying. It’s not just you don’t have a face, it’s that you’re literally suffocating while not being able to see or talk to call for help
@@__-pq5ul yeah you'd have to get used to it but you'd forever feel the burning of your lungs as you desperately try to gasp for air only to remember that you can't. rinse and repeat for eternity. it would've been a terrible fate.
The part in the sim when Elena says they don't even have the pleasure of being able to take a shit, I sometimes think about that when I'm dropping a deuce.
This is the best ending of any black mirror episode, I was SO stressed and was thinking they were gonna get a bad ending like most black mirror episodes so thank goodness
Queen Eliane based on how this guy has been screwed over in real life, I still feel bad for him. I mean this dude clearly is going to die from lack of food, or not die at all
Garrett Prepetit yeah I felt bad too when someone said that even if he dies, his consciousness will remain in that dark place forever. Idk if that’s true but that’s awful. But he was a terrible person so I’m glad the people he tortured got a good ending.
Good ending? The bullied emotionally stunted main character ends up dead. The other characters obliviously unaware of his online gaming activities but since he seems to be the genius behind their game I would expect the company dwindles and fails eventually leaving other characters out of work. The "characters" on the ship are not people. They are a computer doing a very good simulation of multiple people based on (hand wave) programming of their personalities into the simulation. Even if the computer hadn't won the game, the computer would have still continued to exist. No emotional stakes either way on that one.
@@iansneddon2956 When you can create a Turing-type Test that can differentiate a "real" human from one of the Callister humans; you can write a paper on it. Until then, I would have to say, that such an AI may very well have "feelings." Vegan's have less evidence lobsters feel pain as we do, but they continue their crusade despite that.
@@DanielTsosie "Feelings" is a fairly abstract concept. We have nerves providing sensations, some of them quite unpleasant. Helps us avoid situations in which we are being/continue to be injured. An AI that is capable of modelling human behavior will also model those reactions. It obviously has outcomes it is striving for (programmed to win, for example) and outcomes that interfere with that are to be avoided. Essentially, it's concept of pain is losing functionality of its characters or setbacks that keep it from winning. I've made the comparison elsewhere in comments for Westworld with difference that this is a single AI running all NPCs while Westworld gave us robots with individual CPUs processing their personalities and reacting to physical sensations - conceptually this isn't really very different but for our perceptions we would be more inclined to view the Westworld robots as having personality than the single AI running all NPCs which we would be inclined to view as cold and calculating. But just the same we have people taking out dark impulses on a "fake person" where they don't have to feel guilty for what they do - and an AI perceiving negative "feelings" from these assaults and seeking to end the pain. In the Callister example I impulsively see the AI as cold and calculating in its efforts in the show and continuing after to arrange the death of gamers that get in the way of it "winning".
People talk about how evil Daly is... but if tech like this ever exists, I definitely imagine people would use it on co-workers, classmates, etc they despise. Or even their crushes. Despite the plotholes, this is one of my favourite episodes in BM.
The thing is, nobody knows tech like this exists, Dally is the only one who came up with the idea or replicating their DNA into a sentient clone, he does it at his house, with the technology he created
That ending with Aaron Paul in the Online version of Infinity update. AWESOME!! And the way he talked was like how he was in Breaking Bad as Jesse.. lol!
A nerd will always fall for the pussy. That is the one good thing the fleet had going for them is that he wud fall for that trick every.. single.. time. Even tho he cud get the pussy whenever he so pleased because he built the entire fucking universe... but he is such a big time nerd he still gets seduced. Lmao. I still dont like that he died tho thats so fucked up man
This also reminds me a short Sci-Fi horror called "I have no mouth, and I must sceam" by Harlan Ellison. The story revolves around evolved AIs (called AMs) torturing the last few survivors of the human race over and over.
@@Ashe_isnt_real I actually think that Daly taking Cole’s mouth away and leaving her unable to breathe or scream was a deliberate reference. Maybe not though
My theory was that these employees would do beta tests and hook into the "real" game. Then he could do a personality download while they are hooked in, unknown to them. Combine that with their DNA, you get a virtual clone.
Don't need DNA if they are doing physical measurements and pictures from different angles to define their avatars in the game. There is no actual cloning happening, just a depiction of virtual people. Your theory would have made a better explanation for how these virtual duplicates got created. Could have made a bigger deal of the use of AI to monitor the behavior of gamers using logs of years of playing an earlier version of game as to how the AI does such a great job of mimicking human reactions to what is done to the characters - including recognition that characters drawn from players avatars have a real person alter-ego outside the game leading to the unanticipated strategy of the computer to draw on its knowledge of real people to manipulate real employees of the company to help it win the game. This wasn't a happy ending. The AI has learned to manipulate real people to attack gamers it is competing against. Just wait until it learns to make prank SWAT calls on its opponents.
@@iansneddon2956 Genetic memory is a thing. Having somethings engrams would not be necessarily enough to replicate a person 1:1. It's why someone who never having seen a spider would have a fear of it, why fear of heights can be inherited, why some people are afraid of snakes. There are lots of human behaviors that were never learned, but clearly were inherited somehow.
Daniel Tsosie well no, if you were to watch the whole series, each episode is kinda self contained but interlocked overall. one point in time in their universe the cookies were created and as a result of the cookies, the vr game that this episode, san junipero, and striking vipers had were made. all he needed was the dna because he had a machine that took it and copied the consciences to the game, sort of like the cookies
I remember when I watched this one and my heart was racing while they were on their way to that hole , would have sucked if they didn't make it and that shithole gotten them , well deserved ending ..
@@Ghostx003 No , he was mean even to his fan and that was pretty obvious , all the others didn't do anything to deserve this torture , he's a psychopath & a coward because he can't face them in the real world .
Ziad SH all of us are cowards ina real world we all let certain shit slide in real life if we didnt all hell wud break loose, he just happened to find a way where he could release his anger towards these people without “actually” hurting them (which i am really torn by what “actually” means here but whatever i guess)
@@BryceEdwardBrown I feel the same way, especially the literature you seem to be interested in/ familiar with. What are your thoughts on the Simpons' parody of "The Most Dangerous Game"?
A detail I love about this episode is that the villain is pretending to live up to Star Trek's ideals of a hero even though he's more evil than any of the shows villains. The crew on the other hand who barely know each other never turn on each other and even sacrifice for each other no matter how much they get punished for it.
So first off. It's easy to label Daily as a sociopath, but look at modern day gamers in games like Call of Duty, or GRA Online, even watching let's plays of Red Dead Redemption 2 and seeing how npc's are treated. The point is, Daily lives in a world where DNA copies/cookies aren't seen as human by society. Society doesn't acknowledge that level of AI as human, therefore Daily would be a common interpretation of a gamer in that day who had access to this technology. In real life Daily is reserved, Introverted and unable to stand up for himself. Many introverted gamers today are like this as well and use gaming as a way to express their repressed emotions and fantasies. In my opinion, Daily isn't a bad guy, anymore than I am a murderer by running over an npc is gta. If anything these AI programs who think are real have doomed a real man to death. Daily is the real victim.
Great explanations as always!! Although, I'm mad at Robert in that story. I mean, he has a chance to lift himself up when the new female employee appreciates him. Even if they never be each other, at least there's a chance to change himself. But, yeah, in really, it is Black Mirror after all, so he's a sad, deprived fanboy. Anyway, that's my view of him. Can't wait for your next vid!! :)
One thing that pisses me off, if he could change physicality in the game like when he turned her into the mutant arachnid thing, at the end when he's pursuing the ship why doesnt he just stop it by snapping his fingers?
Firewall deleted his code and everything that was in the world of his own server was deleted as well, it's like when you play a online game and suddenly it crashed and then you lose all your levels and loots and controls. In order to get it back you have to get the code running again, but since he's the only one who owns the game, no one can really get him out.
It seems to be implied or suggested that he has to be in close proximity, and otherwise he is using some form of editor tool ultimately so that might not be function of them.
I was hesitant to watch this episode at first, concerned that the treatment of a known and beloved genre like this would not be done justice, but it's turned out to be one of my favorites. Even the impractical "duplicate the personality from DNA only" gaffe wasn't really an issue. Thank you for this wonderful analysis. I hadn't consciously recognized the ship (and controls, and camera, and lighting) upgrade from 1960's to 2010's but now that you point it out, it makes it even more awesome that they re-skinned the whole bridge for that scene. I enjoy your analyses very much. Thank you for creating them!
the weird thing is, they nailed the dissonance between the genre and the fans tos Star trek was considered very progressive in it's time, even angering liberals and conservatives, but many fans latch onto the power fantasy parts like Kirk's womanizing and ignore the more radical aspects like black women being treated as equals
@@REDDAWNproject that's why i don't get ppl that say its a happy ending AIs murdered a whole human being and now the pizza guy and the real nannette are in trouble
@@petithughie They didn’t murder him, they killed him in self defense to protect themselves and free themselves from him. Physical Nannette is definitely fucked though.
Yea nothing happy about the ending , infact those AI are pretty dangerous if you think about it, they reached out in the real world framed a real person that ended in a murder.
Daly easily could've made his private universe such a better place. He could've told the new crew members that they were "brought out of stasis" and their memories are just strange dreams created by the stasis chamber. That way he could integrate them with them think the space sim was the real world.
Constiff 2.0 BETA kid wasn't real tho. He would never do that irl. He killed a sim which is just a bunch of code so really it's equivalent to killing a spider or housefly.
latero kuz they’re sentient tho. He obviously doesn’t have any empathy if he’s willing to do that. It’s so realistic any sane person wouldn’t put these sims through that
I just thought it was fucked up when they were planning the whole thing of escaping and removing the DNA sample source from the fridge because if in the event that Daly didn't get stuck in space, wouldn't he just be able to get them back there if he's able to get like coffee cups or candies from them again?
H No, they most likely would've contacted the cyber police as what he was doing is like not allowed and since it takes like 18 hours to clone them back in again the police would've catched him by then
This is by far THE best episode of Black Mirror It was the first episode of Black Mirror I watched and I was disappointed when I realized BM only does one episode per story. I would totally watch this show if they made it a standalone series
Man I love this episode. Although i don't think it as a happy ending for the crew in uss callister. After all, they're conscious digital clone who are aware of a real life they had before in physical world, right? Truth is, they are stuck in an infinitely cool game , but not free, can never be. Unless their conscious stream somehow manages to merge with their real bodies lol . This gives me hope about the future of gaming . Suggest me some similar tv show like this
THE 13TH FLOOR (1999) Everyone knows about Matrix but this movie is a hidden gem. The same with Identity (2003): When Mr. Robot came out everyone was mentioning Fight Club and that's it.
THE GIRL IN THE PARK (2007) THE BROKEN (2008) THE IMPOSTER (2012) COLOSSAL (2016) BEFORE I WAKE (2016) THE ROOM (2019) US (2019) THE PRODIGY (2019) There are many ways to manifest a personality/soul/living being in the "real" world. In most cases this is done by taking over someone elses body.
@@MavalocKing5050 why it's a good ending is they're not done with Stuck up players, but *no-one* will ever have the level of power over them that Daley did.
This was the first ever episode that I watched and it messed. me. up. after I got done, I just sat in my bed contemplating what I just watched and I was like " do I really wanna get myself into this series?"
I don’t get why Daily did not just use his “mind” to teleport to the ship instead trying to use that shuttle. What did I miss there? I mean he can use force shoke and transform people into bugs but has no power over choosing a spawning point?
Eli Society no after they the characters escaped through the wormhole that space fleet mod was basically a bug thats was shut down. think of it as mod you have on GTA or Minecraft but its no lomger available to play through in a latest update.
tyler pham Yeah but I asked before they escaped through the wormhole. He could just imagine to teleport into the ship and kill em all. Instead he went into the shuttle and tried to keep up with em. oO
He visually improves himself in the simulation. His skin is clearer and his hair is back. The simulation is a clear display of what Daly wants to look like
I’m a huge Star Trek fan and I thought this episode was great. Totally saw it as a love letter to both the original series and the new Abrams films while also giving us another twisted tale.
3 things to take away, 1. Respect people regardless of there personality, 2. Life is the bigger punishment than death, 3. Every bad situations will not remain the same, so just take risks and try to change it for good
Very amazing episode, great acting and in portraying the incel beta personality. Someone who won't step up in reality, but in his mind having his own twisted fantasies like a teenager. Yes he didn't really deserve it since it's like any x person going into his videogame and killing AIs. At the same time it does a great job in empathizing us with the Ai like if they were real human beings, so I didn't mind routing for them. Still going into the extend of taking DNAs samples and all of that; he really was messed up.
It’s the first black mirror episode I enjoyed and ended up not liking since it’s unrealistic from the moment that Nanette enters the world realistically he would’ve never lost since he is literally god in this universe. But oh well I guess they knew people would eat it up because the good ending
Who needed the ending explained? It was pretty obvious. Jessie chased off the other meth dealers and established his own territory to sell off Mr. White's product. Pretty simple to understand.
A man is dead. That's the fact. He got bullied by everyone in real life, everyone was a jerk to him. He just saw this game as an escape from real life, it was just his imagination and he ended up dead. A man is dead. What he did in game was bad but he was harmless in real life. His death is not justified. A man is dead but yet everyone's seeing this as an happy ending. Ngl I felt bad for him.
He knew that the clones he made in the game felt pain and had conscious thoughts of suffering. What a psychopath. I wasn't even sad when he died. Then again, this opinion differs person to person
@@fd3 so are you saying it justified to play a game like the sims with evil intent and get killed by computer code (that he made himself?) no it isn't. he created that game. he created a space where he can let out his frustrations and shape his own social life in a harmless reality. there is nothing psychopathic about it. the fact you sympathize with computer code over a human being (causing no harm) is outright wrong.
@@TheDon741 Eh now that you mention it, I think you're right. But then again, this episode makes it seem like he is the bad guy so that a lot of people sympathize the computer code so . . . I guess it's . . . I don't know. I'm a very sympathetic person and originally thought it was wrong, but now looking back at it and your comment, it's pretty chilling.
@@TheDon741 What is the difference between a mechanical and a biological brain? There is none. The AI in that game were clearly sentient and deserve human rights. I guess you would also be the cop in white Christmas who feels no remorse in torturing an AI for thousands of years.
One thing people don’t realise in the episode is that Nannette messed up her real life version as well. Real life daly will die in real life as he can’t exit the game. If any surveillance CCTV footage of his room was found by the police then real life Nanette would be in trouble. If she is not found by the police then she caused herself lifelong trauma of killing a person.
How did she kill him? The camera will show he went into the game and never woke up. That had nothing to do with her. Also the digital crew had made contact with the outside world so Daly's crimes would have come to light.
@devinthesupersmosher nah. He was a psychopath. Remember, he tortured her in his video game. She would have found out about his criminal activity since the crew made contact with the outside world once they left the wormhole. Proof? Tommy's lollipop was in the episode, Black Museum, as evidence of a crime scene.
Really nicely done, although I kinda missed the background music. You always have some upbeat background music and here it was barely audible, would love to hear it more in the next one, it adds so much to your abrupt way of talking!
You could also compare this episode to the twilight zones "five characters in search of an exit" where you see the newest member freaking out and doing nothing but trying to escape but the others have been through it and they know how it goes ( I didnt even notice how alike it was to "its a good life") love it
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When you understand the ending but still want it explained
When you dont care, but are bored enough to listen in case theres something inteesting in the vid.
Honestly I watch these after watching an episode to see if I got the same interpretation of the episode as other people (and see if anyone notices anything I overlooked)
@@spliffyrodgers4266 same
Facts lmaoo
I come here for Easter eggs I missed
imagine your sims killing you bc you were playing a game
Always let your sims out of the pool.
@@baumintrack2745 That was his only fault. I kept thinking the whole time why the fuck did he make them sentient and not just complete bots since he just wanted slaves anyway.
@@No_More_Eyes545 I think it's cuz he's a psychopath narcissist, and what narcissist could be content with ruling over mere bots?
You may think it’s a game, but for them? It’s hell
@@ephemal Them who? Computer programs? Do you think its torture for characters to die over and over in a video game like turtles in Mario Bros games then?
There was a little nod to "Shut Up and Dance" when the girl said that she would do anything to not have those photos leaked
imagine it was the crew in uss calister making those texts and the hacker.
Thomas Li LMAO that would actually kinda make sense
Brilliant!
That’s what I noticed
@@wongshang1234 I like this theory but what reason would they have to do this maybe they got bored i guess lolz
Nice. One of the episodes that didn't leave me with the feeling of dread.
Until the AI, after learning to manipulate real people in the real world to strike out against gamers it is competing against through in-game NPCs... is the AI going to go on to figure out how to trick more human players into death? This horror story is like a virtual version of Westworld; NPCs (instead of robots) being aware of repeated suffering inflicted by human players have developed the knowledge/skill/capability of influencing real people to help it attack its gaming opponents in the real world. You telling me this is going to be a one-off?
Haha
One of my favourite episodes honestly. Just good scifi fun
R u kidding me !? The guy fucking died in his chair on the game ON CHRISTMAS !!!! ARE U KIDDING ME !??
If you really think about it. This has a depressing ending. Imagine you being bullied in real life takes his revenge on computer simulated only for you to get killed on christmas eve
The only thing I didn’t understand was Daly’s lack of admin permissions in his own game despite having such immense manipulation powers. I felt he would’ve been able to teleport onto the ship when they were going to the wormhole
Yeah this episode lost realism and instead the story writers wanted to look for something heroic despite the obvious plot holes
I agree man , he is a god . And u telling me . He can't even teleport and turn off the update. Like nonsense
Did he have the omni coder?
Obviously - this episode FELL APART parodying Star Trek/Wars
Well it's the same as having a game trainer+, you still can't skip level despite of having infinite power
They would probably have some kind of safety system in place, right? I mean you could get stuck if a game crashed and the "exit game" command wouldn't work. Daly deserved the ending he got, but I think as a genius, he would have had a failsafe mechanism just in case, especially since he lives alone and has no one to "wake him up" by removing the implant.
I think that is the beauty of the episode. He likely hacked the system so much that some failsafes were removed. He likely thought he was safe because he was the admin and there was no reasonable way for that to be removed.
In reality, it would be impossible to be trapped since such a system could only suggest, not control. Removing or powering down the device would just reset back to your regular mental state.
Generally such virtual worlds work kind of like creating a copy or clone uploading to the virtual world, putting the original body in a coma. In this case, it is entirely possible that if you removed failsafe, then the machine would not be able to pull you out of the coma like state.
It is beautiful because it goes along with the hubris of the villain character. He fucked himself and in the end was his biggest enemy.
@@JacobSantosDev That actually makes a lot of sense. I hadn't considered that he himself might have disabled the failsafes.
@@JacobSantosDev the system of the game shouldnt matter,he is still using an interface machine and a physical head piece,those things in any realistic scenario would have some kind of security,like if youve been connected for X ammount of time it shut off unless you confirm,and as he wouldnt confirm it turns off
You know what's funny, he invented a device that can make a copy of your brain from a small DNA sample.
He clould earn bilions on this idea alone.
Image how many genius people would wanna to transfare their mind to live forever
@@paradoxzee6834 Good catch. I think his problem is he's petty and vindictive, and he mainly created that world to enslave and torture people who didn't pay him enough respect in the real world. He's not thinking of any positive use for it. He wants to be God who can smite people who don't serve him.
I LOVED this episode. It had the traditional darkness of Black Mirror which I've come to rely on (and enjoy), but it also ended on a positive note for the tortured AI characters and I would honestly watch a series based on their experience in the updated game.
@@noahlenk5545 Yeah, I had heard that news a while back. It's great news! Can't wait.
and that kids, is how i met your mother
I don’t get it
🤣🤣🤣
OH GOSH THEY'RE THE SAME ACTRESS HOLY FUCK
OMFG THAT REFERENCE-
I love you
Sed. I didn't want Daly to die, I just wanted him to freak out when he looked in to his mini fridge and found out all of the dna samples were gone. If he was going to stay stuck like that there was no need for them to blackmail Nanette to begin with. Although I get that they might have no way knowing that would happen.
he needs to die bec if he dont he will just get their DNA samples in the real world again and plant another clone to his ship again
@@vaultdweller123 Whatever. I don’t care if the clones die
@@kyt6087 I’m sure if there was a hypothetical situation where you were a clone in the near future you might care. They seem to feel pain, feel exactly the same as they do in their real life. Dale was a murderer really
@@Achilles053 IM NOT ONE THOUGH
@@kyt6087 So you don't have anything against animal cruelty since you aren't an animal?
i guess black mirror did this "happy ending" episode for us viewers to prepare our minds for some really sad ending on the remaining episodes for this season.
It was not a happy ending. Its actually a dark ending.
Not happy, but it certainly could’ve gotten worse
Idk about being a digital clone of yourself being forever stuck in a game is a happy ending
Some of y'all just don't get it.
I did not know Kirsten Dunst was married to Jesse Plemons! I remember they played a married couple in Fargo Season 2. And they were great.
Wtf i literally watched this today and came here searching for the explanation... AND 2 HOURS LATER U POST IT
Maybe you are in the simulation which takes pity on you.
ME TOOO
Glad I could get it out in time!
Omg. It’s like, magic, or something. Millions of people watching this episode, and you happen to be one of them
j p is t
I absolutely LOVED this episode of Black Mirror. As a female gamer, you encounter men that express, "nice guys never win". You soon realize they aren't truly nice...they're wearing a mask and expect to be rewarded in the form of female attention. You can admire a guys intellect or verve, but it means nothing if he finds you attractive and you don't want to sleep with him. Guys like Daly are everywhere in the gaming community.
Which is why you never trust a "male feminist"...their just bullshiting to get close because a woman wouldn't talk to them otherwise. Pretty much much same for most men who are left leaning...
As a guy I can confirm that the amount of incels in the gaming community is insane
@@Casper5 yea because they sit around spending all their time playing video games. And then get mad because women don't desire them. Even though they have quite literally made themselves undesirable.
You say this like it's some kind of massive surprise. Yes, men will be nice to women they like to try to get their attention. Introverted guys who are unattractive and have low social skills do this on the internet. No wonder they're bitter and angry when women like you will imply that they're bad people for doing it.
this was the first episode i saw from the black mirror series and it completely hooked me to watch all 4 seasons from the beginning
So I’m confused, on netflix it started me of on season 5 and downward, is that normal?
most interesting thing though, this episode also shows the other episode "white christmas" almost being hypocritical.
i mean in white christmas instead of actually punishing the real life person who did the crime, they instead torture the copied AI by making him listen to a christmas song on loop for thousands of years, but talk as though it's just AI. even when the guy forced the copy of the girl to serve as a house program to make toast. again, most of the humans in the episode don't care. only one person from what was spoken of, saying it was "barbaric" so in a way the guy who accidentally committed murder has a heart over those who didn't. strange.
however in this episode they focus the entire thing on how even though they're just AI it's wrong and they should be set free without torture.
Okay im not saying he was in the right but this feels like an overly extreme punishment for being a sweaty gamer.
Lets face it hes not even close to being the worst one out there.
He killed a kid and is torturing innocent sentient beings. He deserved it.
@@YTonYahoo He killed a programmed kid. And after watching the rest of the series what he did here is extremely tame by comparison.
Plus let's face it he is no where near the sweatiest gamer out there. Not even close.
Its not the same thing as a game though
idk why people are so happy about this episodes ending in my opinion it is one of the scariest episodes of black mirror
Incredible episode; that last scene was epic! Includes a close up of a character, looking directly at the camera, that's normally a no-no, but here, it works just fine.
I completely agree!
I feel bad for the guy who gets stuck in spaceship at the end
Why?
I think USS Callister lacks the moral dilemmas that most of the other Black Mirror episodes have because the real life versions of the people he clones aren't affected by anything he does to their virtual selves.
If the real life people were somehow affected by his actions in the virtual world the episode would have hit the way it was intended.
That's the dilemma. Eventually, technology will advance to a point where programs will truely have the ability to observe, think and feel. Some of us will disregard the clones as merely software. While others will see the clones as sentinel beings that shouldn't be tortured. If he was capturing actual people then it wouldn't be a dilemma at all.
I'd say it's one of the best episodes. Black mirror always does a great job exploring clones.
How would that make any sense
@@pizrux6592in the episode they talk about how it’s illegal to abuse cookies at that point in time are in the future season of becoming thing where you can’t do that to cookies anymore
The black mirror youtuber only now reviewing the the best black mirror episode ever
I did not know I was the Black Mirror TH-camr haha
Plot hole: "none of the buttons do anything" inside the bubble game, yet the new girl somehow hacked it to open settings and send off a message... lol?
Really liked how you specifically informed us about the spoilers. Internet needs more people like you.
Finally, I've been waiting on this one for months
Sorry to keep you waiting, hope you like it!
@@BryceEdwardBrown no, thank you for bringing this hear, I always love your videos
Cristin Milioti looks just like Jennifer Love Hewitt!
This checks out....I've been told I look like both of them.
To be honest, I have to set every single video of yours that I watch to 1.25. Love the content, kinda not living for the stunted pace.
He’s talking at a normal pace. It’s you.
Omg I literally felt nothing for the npc who thought they where real! The real people are still alive and aholes and Daly is real dead now. But hey his abused game people are free!! Wtf!!
He was killed by a game AI and most people celebrate that!! Weird and sick!
Wow. No empathy
This episode reminds me a lot of "I have no mouth and I must scream" it's like that book and star trek had a baby it's this episode
I wish they would make a second one, just to give us fans an update on their current situation!
Robert was a creep but he wasn't hurting anyone he was just trying to escape from his shitty life for a while just like many people who play videos games do. It was made how he wanted his fantasy to be and I'm sure many other people would love to make a world how they want it. I don't think he deserved what happened to him he should have had a back up plan incase the game crashed though.
I dont disagree completely but playing videogames and torturing sentient copies of people who didnt even do anything that wrong to you arent comparable
@@rela424 How does code become "sentient". Are the npc in gta "sentient"
@@rela424 you give them feelings and all of a sudden it’s wrong??
@@imaboss641 The AI in the game clearly had the same level of sentience you do. There is no difference between a biological and a mechanical brain.
I still see a few ways he could get out of this, sci fi rules.
One of my favorite Black Mirror episodes. Although it does not leave me with a sense of dread, it is still deep and has themes that are well-explored and worth talking about.
I'm glad that it will never be possible to clone consciousness or our soul! Thank God
Never 👀
Your brain is your mind and can be theoretically mapped and copied. Souls are a much more philosophical argument however. Some think they are tied to the body and mind, and isn’t he essence of doing this or creating a robot, you are creating a body and giving it a mind, which some would argue creates a new soul.
Strange that the video doesn't mention Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" about a sadistic AI who keeps a bunch of people alive to torture them for eternity. The removal of her mouth is a direct callback to the title of that story
"Startrek" meets "I have no mouth and I must scream".
Watching this episode now (prolly for like the 159th time).
I find it ridiculous that in the beginning the black lady says Walton will FCK a sandwich before it hits the ground if you chuck it, but stay away from Daly because he gets “stary”.
That is a great point. Her logic is the that key to not being creepy is to be above a 7
The story it was lifted from is an Arthur C Clarke short story. Everyone in country town has to think good, happy thoughts or the little boy (with super powers) will do something nasty like bury them in a cornfield or turn them into a frog or something similar. At some point he wishes away the whole universe. I wish I could remember the name of the story it really affected me back in the 70's when I first read it.
I think it’s more in line with the short story, “I have no mouth and I must scream” its just way to similar to not be lifted from
This was actually 1 episode I didn’t watch. I saw the first 2 minutes and I was like “wth is this Star Trek nonsense”. Came back and watched it after S6 and it was great!😅
lol same
@@lilskiddils haha
I loved this episode. Was waiting for Aaron Paul to go "King of space...bitch." lmao
Great analysis of the psychology of these strange characters!
Thank you @rwbyab7423!
Love your videos!
Thank you!
The actress is the mother from How I Met Your Mother. She is cute and quirky. The guy is Todd from Breaking Bad. Also in another video, I don’t have the link :( someone said that Daly lives in Room 402 for some error thing
U didn’t mention the black mirror world laws changed where you cant abuse cookies anymore
Ngl. When watching this episode and Cole stole the DNA I was scared they would escape and he would exit the game to reinsert their DNA to only find it missing. He would then realize someone broke in and swab the DNA on the fridge and find out Cole broke into his flat. He would then torture her for the rest of eternity. Thats what I thought was gonna happen
Yesss I knew it was Aaron at the end. Love that they brought him in. Breaking bad is the best. Todd sucks and so does this guy.
So this is like you're playing Elden Ring and suddenly one of the times you randomly die in the game, you die in real life. 🤣🤣
The simulation is every "incel"/ "nice guy's" wet dream
1. Rannoch is also a planet from Mass Effect universe
2. 6:07 just for the self refraining from getting overboard with the references I won't hold it against you for not commenting about how similar this guy is to Khan in Star Trek II
Thats todd from breaking bad let that sink in.
I noticed that
@@briarc4235 did it sink in that its todd from breaking bad ?
Mhm
The guy talking at the end was Aaron paul too so fucking sick
This episode has the most direct ending in the series. I dont know why though i still watch this LOL
When Daly took away her face that was horrifying. It’s not just you don’t have a face, it’s that you’re literally suffocating while not being able to see or talk to call for help
for eternity too because you can't die
@@SjofnBM1989 I’d imagine you would have to get use to it and not feel anything anymore
@@__-pq5ul yeah you'd have to get used to it but you'd forever feel the burning of your lungs as you desperately try to gasp for air only to remember that you can't. rinse and repeat for eternity. it would've been a terrible fate.
Yeh that was straight nightmare fuel
She had no mouth. And she had to scream.
The part in the sim when Elena says they don't even have the pleasure of being able to take a shit, I sometimes think about that when I'm dropping a deuce.
Taking one right now bruh replying to you. Thinking of U bruh 😘😆😆😂
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This is the best ending of any black mirror episode, I was SO stressed and was thinking they were gonna get a bad ending like most black mirror episodes so thank goodness
Queen Eliane based on how this guy has been screwed over in real life, I still feel bad for him. I mean this dude clearly is going to die from lack of food, or not die at all
Garrett Prepetit yeah I felt bad too when someone said that even if he dies, his consciousness will remain in that dark place forever. Idk if that’s true but that’s awful. But he was a terrible person so I’m glad the people he tortured got a good ending.
R u kidding me This was a horrible ending but u are so fine ima have to agree with u
@@seandafny that's a... interesting take
Queen Eliane I mean I was rooting for him but it is what it is
Welcome back and My favorite episode.
But you blew my son out of an airlock
So *fuck* you.../AHHHH/
“But you blew my son"
Such a great line
@@bungalowfeuhler1541 whoa whoa, slow down there buddy. Pedophilia is not cool
@@issyyourboo2848 Tell that to "shut up and dance"
This episode was one of the only ones with a good ending
I probably won’t see your reply.
Shut up and dance was a pretty crazy ending. Didn't expect it at all.
I'll probably get flak, but I think the Ashley-O episode had a good ending too.
Good ending? The bullied emotionally stunted main character ends up dead. The other characters obliviously unaware of his online gaming activities but since he seems to be the genius behind their game I would expect the company dwindles and fails eventually leaving other characters out of work.
The "characters" on the ship are not people. They are a computer doing a very good simulation of multiple people based on (hand wave) programming of their personalities into the simulation. Even if the computer hadn't won the game, the computer would have still continued to exist. No emotional stakes either way on that one.
@@iansneddon2956 When you can create a Turing-type Test that can differentiate a "real" human from one of the Callister humans; you can write a paper on it. Until then, I would have to say, that such an AI may very well have "feelings." Vegan's have less evidence lobsters feel pain as we do, but they continue their crusade despite that.
@@DanielTsosie "Feelings" is a fairly abstract concept. We have nerves providing sensations, some of them quite unpleasant. Helps us avoid situations in which we are being/continue to be injured. An AI that is capable of modelling human behavior will also model those reactions. It obviously has outcomes it is striving for (programmed to win, for example) and outcomes that interfere with that are to be avoided. Essentially, it's concept of pain is losing functionality of its characters or setbacks that keep it from winning.
I've made the comparison elsewhere in comments for Westworld with difference that this is a single AI running all NPCs while Westworld gave us robots with individual CPUs processing their personalities and reacting to physical sensations - conceptually this isn't really very different but for our perceptions we would be more inclined to view the Westworld robots as having personality than the single AI running all NPCs which we would be inclined to view as cold and calculating. But just the same we have people taking out dark impulses on a "fake person" where they don't have to feel guilty for what they do - and an AI perceiving negative "feelings" from these assaults and seeking to end the pain. In the Callister example I impulsively see the AI as cold and calculating in its efforts in the show and continuing after to arrange the death of gamers that get in the way of it "winning".
i didn't know dunst was engaged to discount matt damon
In the Amazon series FARGO-season 2, Dunst character was married to her real husband.
Oh god haha
Really does like matt Damon.. Especially at first glance 😂
Savage
it took me a good 5 minutes to realize it wasn’t him lmao
People talk about how evil Daly is... but if tech like this ever exists, I definitely imagine people would use it on co-workers, classmates, etc they despise. Or even their crushes.
Despite the plotholes, this is one of my favourite episodes in BM.
The thing is, nobody knows tech like this exists, Dally is the only one who came up with the idea or replicating their DNA into a sentient clone, he does it at his house, with the technology he created
@@_feli_1085 if he can do it incognito, the likelihood of other people doing it too is also possible
That ending with Aaron Paul in the Online version of Infinity update. AWESOME!! And the way he talked was like how he was in Breaking Bad as Jesse.. lol!
I was thinking of Todd from bojack horseman when I first heard it lol
@@JeremySky yeah me too, i just imaged Todd playing the game at home haha
“Todd clean up your shit “
“King of space bitch” would have made it twice as awesome lol
I’m sad that I recognized robbert to be the cunty facist slave man from breaking bad, sorta made me know he was going to be evil
He coulda put a tiny bit of effort and win that girl’s heart.
Daly could’ve really prevented this by keeping his doors locked and recognising nanettes seduction tactic.
True but hes an incel so
A nerd will always fall for the pussy. That is the one good thing the fleet had going for them is that he wud fall for that trick every.. single.. time. Even tho he cud get the pussy whenever he so pleased because he built the entire fucking universe... but he is such a big time nerd he still gets seduced. Lmao. I still dont like that he died tho thats so fucked up man
I wonder what would have happened had Daly paused and exited the game when the crew was escaping, and disconnected the internet and stopped the update
@@seandafny They couldn't even have sex...
@@seandafny Too bad that there's no pussy on incel world he's created lmao
This also reminds me a short Sci-Fi horror called "I have no mouth, and I must sceam" by Harlan Ellison.
The story revolves around evolved AIs (called AMs) torturing the last few survivors of the human race over and over.
i thought the same thing when he blanked her face out! love that story! i mean in a fucked up disturbing way. lol its dark.
Yea it took a lot of ideas from that short I’m surprised he didn’t mention it
This comment is a year old but I was thinking the same thing throughout the episode
@@specialknees6798 I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it :3
@@Ashe_isnt_real I actually think that Daly taking Cole’s mouth away and leaving her unable to breathe or scream was a deliberate reference. Maybe not though
Black mirror makes me wonder if the whole world were living in could be some kinda futuristic simulated shit. We would not even know ?
Chiney Lee no you haven’t shut up
@@qwoc lmao
@@mechineylee ur schizophrenic
It is a simulation. Do some research and you’ll see.
@Aiden Pearce that's what u were program to think 👀
Kids, remember that time when your mother was a coder?
Haha
Wait.... 🤯🤯🤯
I don’t get iy
@@austynjoe3495 The actress who played Nanette Cole also played Tracy - the mother from the show How I met your mother.
lol at first i thought the girl who plays cole was ella from lucifer,,, then i realize she was traci from himym
My theory was that these employees would do beta tests and hook into the "real" game. Then he could do a personality download while they are hooked in, unknown to them. Combine that with their DNA, you get a virtual clone.
Don't need DNA if they are doing physical measurements and pictures from different angles to define their avatars in the game. There is no actual cloning happening, just a depiction of virtual people. Your theory would have made a better explanation for how these virtual duplicates got created. Could have made a bigger deal of the use of AI to monitor the behavior of gamers using logs of years of playing an earlier version of game as to how the AI does such a great job of mimicking human reactions to what is done to the characters - including recognition that characters drawn from players avatars have a real person alter-ego outside the game leading to the unanticipated strategy of the computer to draw on its knowledge of real people to manipulate real employees of the company to help it win the game. This wasn't a happy ending. The AI has learned to manipulate real people to attack gamers it is competing against. Just wait until it learns to make prank SWAT calls on its opponents.
@@iansneddon2956 Genetic memory is a thing. Having somethings engrams would not be necessarily enough to replicate a person 1:1. It's why someone who never having seen a spider would have a fear of it, why fear of heights can be inherited, why some people are afraid of snakes. There are lots of human behaviors that were never learned, but clearly were inherited somehow.
Daniel Tsosie well no, if you were to watch the whole series, each episode is kinda self contained but interlocked overall. one point in time in their universe the cookies were created and as a result of the cookies, the vr game that this episode, san junipero, and striking vipers had were made. all he needed was the dna because he had a machine that took it and copied the consciences to the game, sort of like the cookies
I remember when I watched this one and my heart was racing while they were on their way to that hole , would have sucked if they didn't make it and that shithole gotten them , well deserved ending ..
GHOST FACE KILLER Most of them were innocent
@@Ghostx003 No , he was mean even to his fan and that was pretty obvious , all the others didn't do anything to deserve this torture , he's a psychopath & a coward because he can't face them in the real world .
@@Ghostx003 did the kid a bully ?
NO NOT WELL DESERVED ENDING !!! #JUSTICEFORDALY
Ziad SH all of us are cowards ina real world we all let certain shit slide in real life if we didnt all hell wud break loose, he just happened to find a way where he could release his anger towards these people without “actually” hurting them (which i am really torn by what “actually” means here but whatever i guess)
i honestly love your explanation videos if you did explanations on classic literature i would literally levitate
yeahhhh
That truly is awesome hear! Thank you
@@BryceEdwardBrown I feel the same way, especially the literature you seem to be interested in/ familiar with. What are your thoughts on the Simpons' parody of "The Most Dangerous Game"?
I think it’s up to the parents to teach their kids about sex; they shouldn’t rely on the school system to do it for them.
did I miss something
@@QuikVidGuy loool
Wrong video but love your passion
The "real" subtext of the episode
Arkangel??
I like how the lady’s face looks when Walton says “and Pornhub!”
57:20 into the show.
That was priceless
You know it’s surprising that pornhub exists in the future as well lol
Just realized Daly isn't Matt Damon, wow
😂
I just got home from school and I saw this notification clicking it so fast. I always wanted to see this episode get explained.
Just Dance Dezzy if you need TH-cam to explain a TV show , then please stay in school .
@@markmed9091 why are u here then 😂
@@jacobroberts6922 🤣🤣
Mark Med Robert Daly mentality
Yo its been 4 years
A detail I love about this episode is that the villain is pretending to live up to Star Trek's ideals of a hero even though he's more evil than any of the shows villains. The crew on the other hand who barely know each other never turn on each other and even sacrifice for each other no matter how much they get punished for it.
So first off. It's easy to label Daily as a sociopath, but look at modern day gamers in games like Call of Duty, or GRA Online, even watching let's plays of Red Dead Redemption 2 and seeing how npc's are treated. The point is, Daily lives in a world where DNA copies/cookies aren't seen as human by society. Society doesn't acknowledge that level of AI as human, therefore Daily would be a common interpretation of a gamer in that day who had access to this technology. In real life Daily is reserved, Introverted and unable to stand up for himself. Many introverted gamers today are like this as well and use gaming as a way to express their repressed emotions and fantasies. In my opinion, Daily isn't a bad guy, anymore than I am a murderer by running over an npc is gta. If anything these AI programs who think are real have doomed a real man to death. Daily is the real victim.
I like your take on it.
Great explanations as always!!
Although, I'm mad at Robert in that story. I mean, he has a chance to lift himself up when the new female employee appreciates him. Even if they never be each other, at least there's a chance to change himself. But, yeah, in really, it is Black Mirror after all, so he's a sad, deprived fanboy.
Anyway, that's my view of him. Can't wait for your next vid!! :)
Thank you Kevin, glad you liked it! I think we're all very mad at Robert for that reason haha
@@BryceEdwardBrown I'm just waiting for your explanation for White Christmas. Anyway, keep it up!
@@kevindelacruz2602 Then I hope you don't mind waiting a bit more, like till December haha
@@BryceEdwardBrown I can wait. He he... Perfect month to launch that episode. I can still accept other episodes, though. 😊
One thing that pisses me off, if he could change physicality in the game like when he turned her into the mutant arachnid thing, at the end when he's pursuing the ship why doesnt he just stop it by snapping his fingers?
That’s a good point
Maybe he was so caught up in getting to the ship to think straight
I guess why he couldn't "end game" ,bc it was crashing. The game was deleted. Deleting him as well
Firewall deleted his code and everything that was in the world of his own server was deleted as well, it's like when you play a online game and suddenly it crashed and then you lose all your levels and loots and controls. In order to get it back you have to get the code running again, but since he's the only one who owns the game, no one can really get him out.
It seems to be implied or suggested that he has to be in close proximity, and otherwise he is using some form of editor tool ultimately so that might not be function of them.
I called him “Fatt Damon” the whole time!!!
Oh my
I think you are above fat shaming my friend XD
Grace Haven lol it was a joke, no harm no foul. Would you prefer “Ginger Matt Damon”? Or Matt Damon (PLUS)
@@RiqO315 personally I prefer discount Matt Damon
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I was hesitant to watch this episode at first, concerned that the treatment of a known and beloved genre like this would not be done justice, but it's turned out to be one of my favorites. Even the impractical "duplicate the personality from DNA only" gaffe wasn't really an issue. Thank you for this wonderful analysis. I hadn't consciously recognized the ship (and controls, and camera, and lighting) upgrade from 1960's to 2010's but now that you point it out, it makes it even more awesome that they re-skinned the whole bridge for that scene. I enjoy your analyses very much. Thank you for creating them!
the weird thing is, they nailed the dissonance between the genre and the fans
tos Star trek was considered very progressive in it's time, even angering liberals and conservatives, but many fans latch onto the power fantasy parts like Kirk's womanizing and ignore the more radical aspects like black women being treated as equals
So he tortured ted mosbys dead wife
????????
That makes no sense
Daniel Bahzad the actor is played by Cristin Milioti, who played Ted Mosbys dead wife in how I met your mother
@Sivvan Sharma Oh yeahhhh
In the end the real Nanette Cole must have think, she murdered Daly on Christmas because she changed this button!
EXACTLYYY
Everyone's saying it's a happy ending but the real life Nannette Cole will live with the guilt of killing Daly forever
not just the guilt of killing him, the AIs basically framed her.
She's so fucked for no reason.
@@REDDAWNproject that's why i don't get ppl that say its a happy ending
AIs murdered a whole human being and now the pizza guy and the real nannette are in trouble
@@petithughie They didn’t murder him, they killed him in self defense to protect themselves and free themselves from him. Physical Nannette is definitely fucked though.
Yea nothing happy about the ending , infact those AI are pretty dangerous if you think about it, they reached out in the real world framed a real person that ended in a murder.
Daly easily could've made his private universe such a better place. He could've told the new crew members that they were "brought out of stasis" and their memories are just strange dreams created by the stasis chamber. That way he could integrate them with them think the space sim was the real world.
The worst part of this episode is when he took the child and blew him out into space. It caused me trauma 😢😖
Constiff 2.0 BETA kid wasn't real tho. He would never do that irl. He killed a sim which is just a bunch of code so really it's equivalent to killing a spider or housefly.
@@laterokuz931 but still those people are not a bots, they're still remember what they do last time. It's just like you wake up to different place.
Omara Oliver
sorry....I'm a really emotional & delicate person..
latero kuz they’re sentient tho. He obviously doesn’t have any empathy if he’s willing to do that. It’s so realistic any sane person wouldn’t put these sims through that
Constiff 2.0 BETA
Bless you, I hope you’re having a good day:)
Aaron Paul’s voice is awesome. It took me just a second to recognize him.
From where I know him from bojack horseman
@@mixem979 breaking bad
I just thought it was fucked up when they were planning the whole thing of escaping and removing the DNA sample source from the fridge because if in the event that Daly didn't get stuck in space, wouldn't he just be able to get them back there if he's able to get like coffee cups or candies from them again?
H No, they most likely would've contacted the cyber police as what he was doing is like not allowed and since it takes like 18 hours to clone them back in again the police would've catched him by then
@@2004ale weird, like why wouldnt he just have a backup file. Idk this episode was ok, but again Ye its sci-fi
This is by far THE best episode of Black Mirror
It was the first episode of Black Mirror I watched and I was disappointed when I realized BM only does one episode per story. I would totally watch this show if they made it a standalone series
PLS MAKE IT HAPPEN
How could this be made into a show? What would be the plot?
@@YTonYahoo it could just be adventure
Man I love this episode. Although i don't think it as a happy ending for the crew in uss callister. After all, they're conscious digital clone who are aware of a real life they had before in physical world, right? Truth is, they are stuck in an infinitely cool game , but not free, can never be. Unless their conscious stream somehow manages to merge with their real bodies lol . This gives me hope about the future of gaming .
Suggest me some similar tv show like this
THE 13TH FLOOR (1999)
Everyone knows about Matrix but this movie is a hidden gem.
The same with Identity (2003): When Mr. Robot came out everyone was mentioning Fight Club and that's it.
PANDORUM (2009)
One of my favorites, barely anyone saw it.
THE GIRL IN THE PARK (2007)
THE BROKEN (2008)
THE IMPOSTER (2012)
COLOSSAL (2016)
BEFORE I WAKE (2016)
THE ROOM (2019)
US (2019)
THE PRODIGY (2019)
There are many ways to manifest a personality/soul/living being in the "real" world.
In most cases this is done by taking over someone elses body.
The only way they could've been truly set free is if the whole program was simply deleted.
@@MavalocKing5050 why it's a good ending is they're not done with Stuck up players, but *no-one* will ever have the level of power over them that Daley did.
One of the episodes that have a happy ending,, where villains lose.
I love it!
There was a villain in San Junipero?
“Exit f***ing GAME!”
@@eddv6090 yes the family
@@nathanielisaacs972 what family ?
This was the first ever episode that I watched and it messed. me. up. after I got done, I just sat in my bed contemplating what I just watched and I was like " do I really wanna get myself into this series?"
Wait till you give the earlier seasons a watch
Omara Oliver oh I’ve already watched every other episode. I was just sayin this episode opened my eyes as to what I was getting myself into lmao
Matt Damon lost his mind
This is the uncertified sequel to Interstellar
I don’t get why Daily did not just use his “mind” to teleport to the ship instead trying to use that shuttle. What did I miss there? I mean he can use force shoke and transform people into bugs but has no power over choosing a spawning point?
Yeah I wondered that too. I thought he controlled everything
Eli Society no after they the characters escaped through the wormhole that space fleet mod was basically a bug thats was shut down. think of it as mod you have on GTA or Minecraft but its no lomger available to play through in a latest update.
tyler pham Yeah but I asked before they escaped through the wormhole. He could just imagine to teleport into the ship and kill em all. Instead he went into the shuttle and tried to keep up with em. oO
bQoo plot purposes
The episode let it to believe he needs to be in close proximity to do that. Didn't one of the crew said he needed to be in the ship or something?
Wait... I know why Daly inspires much more awe in his game than in reality : just give him a hair brush and take his glasses off.
He visually improves himself in the simulation. His skin is clearer and his hair is back. The simulation is a clear display of what Daly wants to look like
I love your videos! You put so much thought and effort into them, keep up the great work :)
I’m a huge Star Trek fan and I thought this episode was great. Totally saw it as a love letter to both the original series and the new Abrams films while also giving us another twisted tale.
Too me
3 things to take away, 1. Respect people regardless of there personality, 2. Life is the bigger punishment than death, 3. Every bad situations will not remain the same, so just take risks and try to change it for good
Very amazing episode, great acting and in portraying the incel beta personality. Someone who won't step up in reality, but in his mind having his own twisted fantasies like a teenager. Yes he didn't really deserve it since it's like any x person going into his videogame and killing AIs. At the same time it does a great job in empathizing us with the Ai like if they were real human beings, so I didn't mind routing for them.
Still going into the extend of taking DNAs samples and all of that; he really was messed up.
mf just said beta unironically
if Daly had God-like powers , how come he was chasing them at the end? couldn't he have used his hands to command the entire ship to go to him?
I think that Nanette's character took his controller during their excursion on the pool planet. So he no longer had his power.
He wasn't omnipotent.
That's true. He actually did have the controller. He could've teleported himself to the main ship.
It’s the first black mirror episode I enjoyed and ended up not liking since it’s unrealistic from the moment that Nanette enters the world realistically he would’ve never lost since he is literally god in this universe. But oh well I guess they knew people would eat it up because the good ending
Who needed the ending explained? It was pretty obvious. Jessie chased off the other meth dealers and established his own territory to sell off Mr. White's product. Pretty simple to understand.
A man is dead. That's the fact. He got bullied by everyone in real life, everyone was a jerk to him. He just saw this game as an escape from real life, it was just his imagination and he ended up dead.
A man is dead. What he did in game was bad but he was harmless in real life. His death is not justified.
A man is dead but yet everyone's seeing this as an happy ending. Ngl I felt bad for him.
I feel like its not a bad ending but not a happy one either
He knew that the clones he made in the game felt pain and had conscious thoughts of suffering. What a psychopath. I wasn't even sad when he died. Then again, this opinion differs person to person
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so are you saying it justified to play a game like the sims with evil intent and get killed by computer code (that he made himself?)
no it isn't. he created that game. he created a space where he can let out his frustrations and shape his own social life in a harmless reality. there is nothing psychopathic about it.
the fact you sympathize with computer code over a human being (causing no harm) is outright wrong.
@@TheDon741 Eh now that you mention it, I think you're right. But then again, this episode makes it seem like he is the bad guy so that a lot of people sympathize the computer code so . . . I guess it's . . . I don't know. I'm a very sympathetic person and originally thought it was wrong, but now looking back at it and your comment, it's pretty chilling.
@@TheDon741 What is the difference between a mechanical and a biological brain? There is none. The AI in that game were clearly sentient and deserve human rights.
I guess you would also be the cop in white Christmas who feels no remorse in torturing an AI for thousands of years.
One thing people don’t realise in the episode is that Nannette messed up her real life version as well. Real life daly will die in real life as he can’t exit the game. If any surveillance CCTV footage of his room was found by the police then real life Nanette would be in trouble. If she is not found by the police then she caused herself lifelong trauma of killing a person.
So righttt
How did she kill him? The camera will show he went into the game and never woke up. That had nothing to do with her. Also the digital crew had made contact with the outside world so Daly's crimes would have come to light.
@@Leo-xg2zgshe will blame herself for him dying
@devinthesupersmosher nah. He was a psychopath. Remember, he tortured her in his video game. She would have found out about his criminal activity since the crew made contact with the outside world once they left the wormhole.
Proof? Tommy's lollipop was in the episode, Black Museum, as evidence of a crime scene.
I...have been waiting.
Ugh you're amazing!
Thank you, you’re too kind
Really nicely done, although I kinda missed the background music. You always have some upbeat background music and here it was barely audible, would love to hear it more in the next one, it adds so much to your abrupt way of talking!
I thought it was Matt Damon 😅
You could also compare this episode to the twilight zones "five characters in search of an exit" where you see the newest member freaking out and doing nothing but trying to escape but the others have been through it and they know how it goes ( I didnt even notice how alike it was to "its a good life") love it