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being forced to raise someones child and being cheated on? how is him finding out a bad thing?
It's a bad thing because now he is sad.
Vulgar Juice better to be sad than living in her lie
@@lc7592 Exactly, I don't get why this is even a debate and why people would rather not knowing and stay with a woman who cheats and raising a child that you think is yours when is not. Are people that desperate for happiness that they rather live in a lie?
It isn't, I guess that in this case the dude couldn't handle it but still I'd rather face a painful truth than live a blissful lie.
Being made to believe that you're raising your biological child while you're actually raising someone else's all while your partner is cheating on you is just cruel, even if it made him feel like shit when he found out I consider this more of a happy ending because he's better off without her.
Maybe he went a bit overboard with gouging out the grain and potentially blinding himself, but tbh I love my privacy and if I lived in that world I wouldn't need something terrible to happen before I'd gouge the grain out.
To be fair, we're not sure if it's true or he's dellusional for the whole episode. If he WAS just dilusional then obviously, what he did to her would not be okay. But since he was right, does that justify it? He could have been wrong too... What if he was wrong? Despite all this, was he happier in the end?
I honestly prefer knowing the truth, being ignorant about a relationship is awful
It not real if you have to do that
I strongly disagree, think about yourself in his position, youd be throwing your family, your life, and your happiness permenantly to end up in a dark dark and a broken place.
Fair and true.
@@JKRowl BPB
Patrick Hanson huh ?
Stopped watching after “insecure and obsessive”
Liam is a LAWYER. He see’s things, he questions them. His wife WAS cheating, everything he thought was 100% correct.
Was he wrong by escalating the situation and resorting to violence? Yes. Can I understand why he did so? YES.
Fi is the ultimate villain here.
Yeah i dont understand why people use insecure as an insult when people dont behave as they should in a relationship.Especially women who think they are immune to any consequence to their actions.
all humans that tell others fake truths are villains
I agree. I felt for Liam here. It really hurt to seem him turn violent, and it hurt to see him and Fi’s lives fall apart this way. The story was beautifully told.
Fi is the villian, but liam isnt a good guy either, it isn’t simply black and white
Yeah I don’t how someone is insecure or jealous when they’re clearly onto something. Dude used his brain and put two and two together. If the writers were showing the “bad sides” of having access to all your memories, they did a terrible job. If Liam hadn’t been able to connect the dots with absolute proof, Fi would have gaslighted him until he couldn’t tell if his suspicions were real (which they were) or if he was crazy.
Like if they wanted to make Fi more sympathetic, I’m not sure why they would imply she cheated multiple times and had Liam raise another man’s kids. If that’s the bliss that comes from ignorance, I’d rather not be ignorant.
liam isnt a saint, hes just a realistic normal person like all of us. he followed his gut and ended up being right. he's actually a really likeable character
True
When you've been cheated on and you watch this episode, the pain is unbearable. The feelings of intense anger and angst against his wife is hard to describe. I remember when I found out and caught mine cheating on me man thank god I didn't end up ending her fucking life. No truer pain has been felt before.
Liam didn't deserve this. No way.
Has BPD
I love Liam! This character gets so much hate
@@champagnecoloredeyes yeah becus those haters are cheaters
@@wolfydz1239 😂😂
@@wolfydz1239 exactly
Liam is 100 percent correct in his feelings towards his wife, she did cheat on him and the child obviously is not his. That's as sick as you can get, Liam should be happy he is finally free from everything.
And there's people calling Liam the monster? It's ridiculous. People are basically shaming him for ruthlessly searching for the truth, instead insinuating that he should have blindly spent his life with an untrustworthy woman and a child that isn't biologically his!
Eoin Smith He assaulted people to get it.
@@1993ilykiana Probably because he knew deep inside he was right, with all the evidence he had. If his wife was honest from the start instead of making different stories (the fact she said one week, then one month, then finding out it was 18 months), he wouldn't have done it that way, so it's entirely her fault..
But I have to know, can anyone explained, why is his wife and child gone at the end ? Did he get a divorce ? Did he kick her out ? What ahppened to his wife ??? Where is She ??
Liam was being gaslighted by his wife and every one I talk to who sees this episode says something infuriating about how Liam is “insecure” or “crazy”. Gaslighting is one of the most disgusting things you can do to another person mentally and a lot of people don’t get that.
This episode literally broke my best friends ex-wife. She was demanding that we stopped watching this episode. You could tell it was really bothering her eating away at her, turns out she was cheating
😂 good for him
That's a plot twist
Bruh, but good for that guy
*I'm really glad your friend found out the truth..* but his ex wife is stupid af for showing him that a story about cheating was bothering her to a point where she would tell a room of other people who are enjoying it to turn it off. She should've just stfu & continued watching the story in silence or make an excuse to leave the room or sumthin lmao !!
@@L47M so that means,,,uknow,, fake story
This episode taught me to always trust my gut feeling
The best comment: not only in terms of relationship but anything!
Took me back to every time I was driven nuts, gaslit, and later found i was right the whole damn time. The gut don't lie.
true. TRUST is.
Yesss frl
True
this has one of the saddest endings of black mirror i've seen imo
The episode White Christmas also has an upsetting end. Fifteen million Merits was my favourite.
He found out his wife is a cheat and the child is not his, the truth set him free.
Be Right Back was sad too
Heassik ! eh, not even close imo. white christmas was insane. he was left there for 1 millions years with that loud ass music on. also black museum, be right back and metalhead was pretty sad too. idk, this one was sad but didnt really feel anything when watching the ending
I wasn't sold on the concept of the episode, that everyone was essentially forced to wear a body cam on them at all times. Thats just a huge invasion of privacy that I feel most people wouldn't be down for. But the most interesting part to me was the integration of technology Inside of people and how it might effect them psychologically. That ending tore my heart out lol. He was torturing himself, reliving all these tiny moments in time that he cherished so much one last time before starting over again.
If you honestly think Liam is in the wrong you really need a reality check.
If you honestly think Liam is in the wrong, you really need to grow a pair. Like Liam did.
There, fixed it.
His reactions are over the top and immoral
@@LPikeno Liam isn't real!
Liam isn't real!!
@@ESFDragxnFistEntertainment Liam isn't real!!
This episode made me sad, because when I was in a toxic relationship, I used to memorize text messages and words, to “reassure” myself that he’s still in love with me, “he would never cheat, never hurt me and he want to protect me”. Then I found out that he was cheating the whole time and I really wanted to just “rip it off” of my brain, just like the guy did with the microchip in this episode.
It sucks. And I’m so sorry you went through that. What played out in this episode.. essentially happened to me recently.. in my life. Most painful thing I’ve ever experienced. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I hope you’ve found someone new and better for you.
Problem is if roles changed everyone would be backing Ffion saying she is completely right for what she did, but because it's Liam people think he is delusional and insecure. However he is just a really smart individual with an outstanding attention span and eye for detail. That's what's wrong with the society nowadays.
I second that
Agreed!
This technology would be great for exams.
chan hyun that’s what I was thinking
@꧁ Frédéric Chopin꧂ black contact lenses would do just fine.
@꧁ Frédéric Chopin꧂ close your eyes and pretend to think.
@꧁ Frédéric Chopin꧂ yeah i imagine before the exam the teacher would collect the remotes or something lol
@꧁ Frédéric Chopin꧂ they should upgrades the technology. The remote should be controlled by mind only.
He was right the entire time. If she had been honest with him he wouldn’t have escalated the situation continuously. Are we honestly attempting to claim some would rather unknowingly raise another mans child after their wife has cheated
JALN. Doesn’t excuse the fact that he was very clearly abusive verbally and physically.
@@hannahbrown1128 it wouldn't have been "abusive" if she was honest in the first place. do you even know how hard it would hit you as a lover if you weren't really the father to your child to the one you "love"?
@@hannahbrown1128 are u saying that her being a cheat is justified because him being abusive? I feel like many girls are like this.. when you are emotionally hurt by your partner it's ok to cheat... She was the one hiding something to begin with..
@@hannahbrown1128 Her emotional abuse has destroyed Liams life, but a few obsessive, frustrated moments (brought on by her constant lies) from Liam is what you're more concerned about?
I assume you're a lesbian.
Eoin Smith God I wish I was a lesbian after reading this bullshit. She was never emotionally abusive. Cheating lying and being attracted to someone else isn’t cool but it’s not abusive. Grabbing someone by the face screaming at them in their face to scare them pushing them and grabbing their arms all intended to scare them is clear physical and verbal abuse. Being obsessive is excusable. Cheating is wrong but can be forgiven people make mistakes and life gets boring. Abuse should never be forgiven. What he did was based on fear and control. He’s not the victim.
If Jonas had come over and stayed the night, probably Fi had all intentions to have another quickie when Liam was sleeping. Once a cheater is always a cheater.
The people trying to rationalize Ffion's infidelity are probably infidels themselves. I've felt the extent of this betrayal as well, and frankly, I would say I could not hold my anger as well as Liam's.
True. That bitch didnt get what she deserved in this episode
@@DBMWM3GTR forreal that bitch lied too many times
@Tábata Martín Olea oop found the cheater
Why did she even marry him if they both didn't agree to this "societal contract" you speak of? If she wanted to have a polygamous relationship, then she shouldn't have married him in the first place. Find someone else who's willing to agree with her terms of polygamy, instead of ruining someone's life. It's already happening today, so surely that's possible. Your actions have consequences, as it should be. Cheating is cheating.
@@lloydvicedo1340 exactly. people who cheats and then cower behind "humans are not monogamous by nature" is just fucking pathetic. this is not about wether humans are monogamous or not, this is about a breach of trust.
if they want an open relationship, then get into one with a willing partner. consent is the key. and yet some of the cheaters herr actually tried to justify their (and in this case fi's infidelity) by saying humans are not meant for monogamous relationship. that is the most selfish, pathetic, egotistical, thing ever to say in a relationship. they're destroying their partner's trust just for their own selfish feelings, and then blame something else entirely instead of themselves for something that they do.
disgusting pieces of trash. all of them.
I don't understand how anyone could consider Liam in the wrong. His wife cheated on him and lied to him about his child that wasn't even his. She was lying throughout the whole episode and he caught on, I just feel terrible for Liam. If anything, I would say his reaction was beyond reasonable, I know that I would be a lot more mad then he was.
Liam isn't all in the wrong but the fact that he was phsycially and mentally abusive towards his wife made me dislike his character. There are so many better ways to deal with cheating, ways that he could've been seen as the good guy. I don't think anything justifies his physical actions same with his wife. Both of their actions couldn't be justified by myself personally, they both did terrible things that hurt each other in the end.
@@unusunus4613 He was not physically nor mentally abusive towards his wife. He never laid a hand on her prior to the episode (that we know of), and he was not mentally abusive. He was only extremely insecure but that is not abuse. It's hard to say that he should of dealt with it better because in the end he is human, if you were in that position you may do the same thing as him or maybe even worst. I mean his whole life just crumpled in front of him. His wife cheated on him, he most likely got fired from his job, and he had been raising a kid that wasn't even his. I would say that his actions were justified in the end.
His actions were a bit over the top if he knew that she was an unfaithful liar from the beginning he should'nt have but his main source of happiness towards her. The best thing to do in that situation is to breakup n find inner peace. You cant say he was always truly happy with her.
@@lorenzomorgan2178 it's because his wife lied to her again and again and again and again! Liam felt that whatever he did his wife was gonna lie to him, he's just human and his wife forced him to do that.
CARTI
I’d rather choose a painful truth over a beautiful lie
A temporary pain for a permanent pleasure..or a temporary pleasure for a permanent pain.. Indeed painful truth is a better choice.
Your comment reminds me Oedipus the king.
Blue pill or red pill
It was a ticking bomb waiting to blow up, if he ignored everything and kept being with Fi, he was going to realize soon that the kid wasn't his at all
@@davidkonevky7372 imagine being in a constant worry that your child is not yours and your partner is a cheater... getting old with all that thoughts in your mind and replaying memories every once in a while... would be hell.
He's not obsessive or insecure. He's right on the money
Yes!
@@BryceEdwardBrown You literally called him obsessive and insecure in the video.
@@BryceEdwardBrown idiot
He almost killed someone...
@@fluffynator6222 what does that have to do with anything
I think you’re off the mark on Liam, you say he’s insecure because he was so determined to see if she was cheating, but that’s only because she showed obvious signs and kept on lying. He’s a smart observant guy, if any of us had that technology we would do the same thing.
Liam is far from insecure. If anything, he's a smart and observant man.
Frostfyre Akali that’s why they made the character a LAWYER. Any other man, the viewers would’ve taken it as insecure and obsessive.
You can be insecure and smart and observant. They're not mutually exclusive
@@jordyn.w4129 that's not what he said
There's nothing insecure about Liam , he was right about his suspicions , therefore he was righfully fearful not irrationally fearful therefore not insecure
Just like every scorpions 😉
Whoah whoah whoah whoah whoah hold up. “Liam is obsessive and insecure.” How about Liam had gut instincts that his wife was unfaithful or Liam was being gaslighted by his cheating lying snake of a wife.
I love the character of Liam. Wtf is with all the Liam hate?!
I thought so too, who wouldnt be obsessive when it comes to something like that?
That's what I was thinking! How can someone be labeled as insecure and obsessive when they were right about something and had a strong gut feeling? Plus what's wrong with being obsessive about the truth when you know you're most likely right. I also wouldn't say he's insecure because he was confident and just fine before his wife started to act all weird. She literally didn't even try to hide the signs that she was more interested in someone else and looked gloomy when she looked at him after looking at the other dude all excited.
PsiMK right!
Kief Khufu exactly!
Because that opening scene of Liam obsessing over his assesment interview proves that this obsessiveness and constant doubting is not limited to his relationship with Phi. That interview has nothing to do with Phi or his relationship with her, and yet he is still obsessing over it and nit picking every little detail of it for fear that he will lose his job. It is everywhere in his life, and it is constant. I don't know about you, but that sounds like someone who is very insecure about themselves to me.
In France, it’s illegal to do paternity DNA test. Imagine living in that crap hole.
But why?
Oh god why is it prohibited? It should be a human right to know who the father is
@@DBMWM3GTR Dude.
@@DBMWM3GTR Do you know some people could actually feel hurt? Just saying.
@@excuseme1911 because most tests came back that the father wasn’t the father. So they decided to f* over all men and let those cheating bi***es get away with paternity fraud.
this episode is the perfect reflection of the society of today, she literally lied, cheated, and all on his face, but liam is the bad for investigate him, no guys, if you feel something is wrong, search for it, is better being insecure, than being a moron.
Ignorance isn't bliss... it's just ignorance. I'd rather know the truth and decide for myself how to handle it. Pain is simply a part of life, not the ending of it.
A pain like that can lead to the end of a life though but that is a pretty big lie she was living.
@@gimbobjenkins405 what's worse? Leaving with the constant worry that your child might not be yours and your wife is a liar and cheater, or accepting that and moving on? At least the baby won't have many memories of this (sort of lol). I think it's a lot worse to just cling on the "good parts" of a toxic relationship when you can both start over and be happier. It's especially better for the child if they aren't together and build better relationships with other people.
Depends on the person, some people are dedicated to finding the truth no matter how bad it is, others are happy with living a lie. It is a lot worse to only look at the good times when at the end of a bad relationship, its usually why people stay together when they know its doomed, they remember the good times when they are not around and remember the bad times when they are.
@@KookiesNolly You know, I find this response to be really ironic and funny just because the grain records everything in excrutiating detail, and can be replayed at anytime, and neither can it be deleted without leaving a suspicious looking blank on that grain. That entire episode of Black Mirror is all about clinging to those good parts and being unable to move on from... well... anything and live a happier life just because people can't forget anything. Just like how that baby will still have memories of that event because of that grain in their brain. The grain is a literal seed of doubt.
Personally I think ignorance can be bliss sometimes. Not knowing something but suspecting it, sucks yes, but what's worse is knowing everything and feeling it to your core. I'd say that's worse
I'm like fully on Liams side. He obviously wasnt always this bad cause Phe was suprised. She gave him reasons to be insecure. The way he was acting is how people act when they've been hurt, lied to, or shamed before
Cannot understand how anyone can be on the side of a liar and a cheat. He acted intensely, but considering he of all people would know her, I feel it was justified when he uncovered the truth.
People are pretty much saying that person who acted emotionally after finding out his wife cheated on him and his child is not really his is in the wrong. Like, no.
Team Liam 100%! Liam was being gaslighted by his wife. It’s honestly the most heartless disgusting thing you can do to another person.
Estrella Casias I agree. I don't get people who are any other side other that Liam's, he might be a little obsessive but most of his actions are justified and he was right on top of that and I don't get how anyone would stay in a relationship with someone who cheats on you and raising someone else's child thinking is yours just for the sake of happiness.
I agree to the full extent, Liam is in the right. The wife and Jonas are utterly disgusting and insufferable human beings. The wife still flirted with Jonas in front of Liam. They don't realise as a lawyer, Liam pays attention to subtleties on behaviour.
Its good to see that people here, are backing Liam...
He was right the entire time
Exactly, he was trying to get the truth
@@BryceEdwardBrown why say he's obsessive and insecure then when he was clearly not?
@@elisejackson2854 I can relate to liam even tho im not married yet. Theres many things wrong about this movie and this movie only show the Crux or epitome of the problem. We not see how liam care about his wife, or we not see how they are TRYING to make this family works. We only see how the wife cheating but we not see how its lead to cheating wife. But at this point where The family broken and child even unsure whose is it. Fi should be know she needs to be REALLY REALLY focus on family, but no shes want to have joyous of young.
I know im probably get fired in here but heres the thing. Women and Man is different. Many men looks for younger women when they already mid 30. Women looks for something make them secure. The bad thing about both of them is, they forget in the end of their life only their child will matters. Only their family will wait days and night when they sick, because friends, ex, or such have their own life. In here the Jones clearly just want to have fun, while women need to remember how HURTFUL to not have certain future. Liam surely have self doubt and insecure BUT some POINT to make him BE LOYAL. Women doesnt realize that. Its different with Jonas who he loves to jokes around, he have high self esteem and not afraid to be in low, he can do anything. But because of that, he only loyal to himself.
All of i say is base on theory, but life goes on with emotional things. That is why for this one, its only scenario to be Fckedup.
He threatened to murder someone wtf is wrong with you people
@@abstolfo4life_300 oh yes that's soooo bad then cheating a man, lying till the last second, and fooling a man to raise some pricksbaby
She didn’t love him. She chose him bc he’s a nice guy and the guy she actually loved was a jerk. That created karma
Girl cheats, ruins guys life, yet the guy is the bad person. Sounds about right...
Keith Rivela sad isn't it but this is the world we live in
Keith Rivela
His fault because he was mean about it and she said sorry lol
DmanDice so its his fault because he was mean? Because she was constantly lying and tried to delete the video? And just because she said sorry makes everything okay? Your statement is stupid
GeekerDeed
Or you have no idea what sarcasm is.
"Ruining his life" sounds a bit hyperbolic. What, he's too old to start a family with someone else? The child he was raising is less than a year old. Not saying what she did wasn't messed up, but his life was NOT ruined. He just gave up on it.
I think that cheating in a relationship where there's a baby is one of the evilest things one can do. The cheated is faced with the dilemma of breaking up and putting a young child in a broken family or staying and having their hatred consume them.
Marios Gkionis this is so true 💔 to be blunt, people fucking suck
Yup babays father cheated while I was pregnant, for all the neighbors to see.guess what.....I'm not bitter, I'm getting married to my best friend.and not all men are evil.i hope many others grow up
That doesn't happen to me, but just thinking about it makes me hurt so fucking much. No wonder there's so many murder cases because of one of the two is having affair.
FRED HAMPTON IS MY HERO you’re 10
Cheating itself is so bad,but putting an innocent child in it is a horrible crime.
The most disgusting scene was that Fi tried to delete her sexing memories to turn behind to Liam, she was so sneaky, disgusting woman, she was still lying to Liam about the condom. She was knowing Liam was not a father of Jodie. 🤦🏼♀️ The episode always piss me off. 😡
Calm down lol
@@yashrajdixit4412 nah
Liam's a victim of a cheating lying wife yet you demonize him has abusive obsessive and insecure when he was right all along ...I never understood why people always make excuses for a woman cheating they blame it on the guy as if a woman can never be guilty of wrong yet if the story was other way around with liam cheating on her nobody would even try to claim it's her fault ot say shes obsessive and abusive
Sadly we live in a society where men are to blame for everything and woman are always the victims. Obviously it's not possible for biological reasons but imagine if men could lie to women about a child being there's and allowing a woman to bring that child up on a lie, the men would rightly be called monsters yet women do this all the time and it's swept under the carpet. In my opinion it should be a criminal offence and any one doing it should be Shamed.
To me Liam is not abusive. He was betrayed and Jonah needed to understand that talking about about a nother man's wife in front of him is inconsiderate. If he didn't jump into action to stop her from deleting the proof of her infidelity then she would have kept lying to him. His relationship has no trust, no commitment, just a self created delusion that these things are important.
How long would it have been before she was sleeping with Jonah again?
It's definitely abusive, screaming and yelling and physically grabbing at your wife or husband is abusive. He wasn't forced to stay in the relationship, he knew something was wrong and that should've been a signal to leave the relationship and marriage. Nothing justifies hurting someone physically like that.
@@unusunus4613 What Liam's wife did was worse than a physical beating, as it was fucking him up emotionally and mentally. Physical wounds heal, mental scars are the next level of pain and suffering. Nothing justified Liam's wife in her continued attempts to keep the truth from Liam. For fucks' sake, she tricked him into raising another man's child, while flirting with the man she committed adultery with in front of Liam. Jonas would talk about Fi in front of Liam and others on reliving his moment of fucking her, but not state her name. It can't get anymore disgusting of a human being than Liam's wife and Jonas.
@@unusunus4613 While I'd say physical abusive is definitely terrible, up until the fact that he was certain that he caught her in a web of lies, he never laid a hand on her and to say that going through all that emotion you could say without a doubt you wouldn't even touch your wife sounds a little naive. While he shouldn't have, he didn't physically beat her, and the only time he even put his hands on her in the first place is when he knew this marriage was over. He is flawed because he was definitely looking for something wrong in his relationship to begin with but to say the connections he was making between the two were a stretch is a bit unreasonable. She banged an ex, not even a week after a fight, while they were married. In my personal opinion she got what she deserved, and I wouldn't say the grain ruined his life, although being reminded of what once was in such great detail I'm sure was a mind fuck being able to look back in great detail of all the good times (we normally remember the bad times more vividly so it can make moving on which is hard, a bit easier but I'm assuming near impossible with the grain).
They were both extremely abusive. Liam is physically abusive. Fi is a gaslighting liar.
@@lorenzomorgan2178 I completely agree with you.
I don't care how much "love" there is. You cheat, it's over. I'm the kind of person who much rather feel the pain knowing the truth than live blissfully. At least with pain I can make a decision of what to do about it.
ikr, how tf you gonna live with a cheating wife and a child that is not even yours. It's like living with a lie
Senseless Nonsense agreed know the truth and decide how to handle it. Me personally if a partner cheats its over
give the person a chance afterall divore is expensive.... however if a baby is created by cheating then relationship should end immediately
@@shacelw5720 i disagree. If you cheat once, it's over. There are no chances with something like that.
Exactly
I remember during philosophy class we watching this episode and everyone said that Phi had the right to cheat on him till I mentioned that they were married.
I even remember the girl saying "her body her choice" when I brought up that no matter what is happening in the relationship, cheating is wrong.
Honestly the whole situation showed me how people view female cheaters and men who have been cheated on.
This is what happens whe some 304 with sub - average IQ takes a quote "my body, my choice" wich is related to a womans right to terminate a life of her unborn child. Now, the stupid 304 thinks she discovered warm water and uses this quote to any situation there is. And yeah, I know personally some women that think like that. Kinda boils my blood.
Man, really? The world is truly f*cked up ;_;
What the fk is up with your classmates?
I'm a female and honestly speaking this, "her body her choice" thing has been taken out of context and given "us" permission to do immoral acts. When a man does it, it's bad and frowned upon, but when a female does it, it's a right? These are the kind of things that make me question why we try to fight justice by being unjust. If cheating is wrong, let be wrong for all, if it's deemed okay then let it be okay for everybody. Jeez
In which circumstance is it OKAY for anybody in a relationship to cheat. Married or not. Bullshit mentality and degenerate people.
Is Liam actually flawed for being insecure? Or might he just be smart for being able piece the truth together?
I think he's just smart for being able to see through the bullshit other people throw at him. Kinda like how Truman in the Truman show wasn't simply "paranoid" - he was just smart enough to realise something about his world wasn't quite right. That the people he knew and loved were all insincere, that the background characters are all on a loop etc.
There's a difference between being insane, and realising you're living in an insane situation.
I suspect people just like to slap the "paranoia" label on intelligent, socially perceptive people who rock the boat, because if they admitted there was any validity to what the person is saying, the lies they put out into the world would come back to bite them, revealing them for the pathetic individuals they really are.
Liam had every right to be obsessive. I don't understand why the narrator is portraying him to be the bad guy.
Maggie T. I know!! I totally agree. Liam is one of my favorite characters I never understood all the hate
@@champagnecoloredeyes a right?? i wouldnt go to that extent.
Narrator seems like a simp
Because he is the bad guy. He assaulted people.
the scenes like the babysitter scenes and d.u.i'ing and threatening jonas was outta wack. sure, he had every right to be angry at fi. but forcing a babysitter in an awkward situation and in the middle of a row, and nearly killing himself and Jonas (before he knew about cheating btw, ig he came there bc he wanted him to delete his wankbank scenes of his wife).
Naw he definitely shoulda left her. Even if the truth hurt, that’s not his kid.
King Compassion agreed!
Yeah like nothing happened. He is just AI machine
Agreed but pressuring her was the wrong thing to do.
@@fluffynator6222 pressuring her to tell the truth? Yea he was tripping when he started seeing the red flags and got drunk n went to the guys house. However it wouldn’t have happened if she never cheated, lied and raised a baby with a guy that’s not his. Yea he went too far but that’s why you don’t play with people emotions, don’t know what their capable of.
@@SonYonatan
Congrats for justifying gaslighting.
A spouse who beats their partner will tell them "Why do you make me do this? Why do you keep provoking me, making me mad, making me hurt you?" This is literally the playbook of an abusive relationship.
He's a lawyer, he's not obsessing. He love solving problems
And on top of that he was right.
Vilifying Liam?? Wow...he actually showed a lot of restraint despite the circumstances. Didn’t hit his wife, just yelled at her, and only in the heat of the moment. It’s not like he was actively abusive. I think it’s a bit ridiculous to see him as a bad guy in any way.
He literally hit his wife..
is Liam insecure and obsessive or did we see him in a time of extreme anxiety and upset when his wife's answers and body language give off clues or dishonesty which in his time of worrying about a huge job, only worried him more? Unfair to say the character is actually that when we don't see their whole relationship
EXACTLY. This comment ends the ongoing debate of Liam's character.
100%. We dont know if Liam acts like this towards Fi prior to the dinner party. So its not safe to assume that he is an all rounded "insecure and obsessed" guy. His response and actions 100% justified since if the genders were switched the whole world will say its justified
@@JoeMama-sd2kl in the episode is said how Liam had already wrongly assumed Fi cheated on him with another guy, even before she had cheated in the first place so I really don’t k ow where are you coming from
Interesting question. But I do have to point out that this is not the first time Liam does something we witnessed in this episode. At some point, the wife mentions someone named “Dan.” I wonder if Liam discovered anything ... if so it can give a better answer as to: is Liam obsessive and insecure? Or did the grain make him obsessive and insecure?
@@yayaXO i believe Liam has this problems but weren’t really that much, like you would say someone being anxious or insecure, but the grain is what made it worsen and become something dangerous for his own life, ending up ruining it even if he was right, as he ended up getting his grain out
Entire history in only 16 minutes? Nice
The sad thing is, Liam really did care for Jonas' child
Too late for that aint it
Also, he was depressed about being fired from his job and not to take care of his cheater wife and Jonas's kid. 🤦🏼♀️
It could be that Liam is the way he is because he knew everything all along and wanted her to admit it.
Interesting
Yes he prob invited him (the jerk) on purpose to see how she (his wife) acts
Personally I lean more towards Liam, truth is extremely important in our lives and relationships. And as the saying goes, "The truth will set you free." Personally after all of this despite the consequences I think Liam as a character would benefit from this both removing the grain and getting away from Fi, it would give him the much needed relief even if there will be a momentary sadness of losing his "family".
yeah, people who leaned more towards his wife have a weird moral compass in my opinion. Definitely not people I want around me.
I'm starting to wonder how much of our relationships are a lie, having seen how convincing and easily Fi was able to lie to her husband. I was fooled every single time she told a lie, and what's genuinely surprised when the truth was uncovered.
@@eoinsmith1996 there's plenty of minor superficial lies told but as for impactful ones? Well that's hard to say. I try to be as truthful and honest as I can be but I still lie if I'm being truthful.
A family that was never his better for him to go through this temporary sadness.
Eli N.S YES 🙌🏻 I couldn’t agree with this more! So perfectly worded. I watched this episode with my ex boyfriend back when we were still together and he said to me “You’re like the female version of Liam.” He thought Liam was needlessly paranoid and insecure (even though Liam was completely justified) Well turned out that my ex was the male version of Fi. Lying cheating scum who was gaslighting me the entire relationship. Fi siders are definitely ones to steer clear of.
The lawyer solves the case of his love life.
The main character in this one is soo attractive and seemed like a good guy. Who would ever cheat on that guy. I was confused watching that episode. I felt so sorry 4 him
I feel like Liam did what the majority of married men would do if they suspected their wife was cheating.
Yes, and what he did would be considered "mild" compared to what other husbands would do if they found out that their wifes are cheating
What a lot of wives would do too. I would wanna see for myself if my partner is telling the truth.
@@materialgirl4896 for sure I'd definitely grab a few pliers from my toolbox and go full CIA interrogation torture on the dude and the cheating broad
Damn, I didn't even notice the 9-1-1 conversation in the background. (Yet another) great catch, man. Props on the Oedipus Rex parallels too. Can't believe I missed that. Keep 'em coming. These videos are great.
999. Not 9-1-1. It's not the US.
999 not 911
Shmuel Pernicone how did you miss that?! It was blatant
i watch all the episodes with subtitles (cause im not a native english speaker) and the phone call was in the subtitles, but otherwise idk if i'd noticed it.
I can't belive people are even defending Fi. She cheated on him, with the worst possible guy. Hell, if she was horny she could've just used a vibrator for God's sake. The only thing that would've redeemed her by a tiny bit was if she told him the truth. Liam was obssessive and insecure but he wasn't cruel. Like he said, "Look at what you did to me, Fi. This isn't me." He loved her enough that he could've forgiven her and raised the baby. Or at the very least if they separated, he wouldn't be as destroyed as he is now. He wouldn't have to resort to mutilating himself just to get rid of the grain. Perhaps it was unintentional but she just completely destroyed him. He lost everything and she didn't lose anything.
He wasn't cruel? He threatened to kill a guy.
@@fluffynator6222 the guy who his wife cheated on him with and gave her a kid he thought was his for 18 months
@@sicariusflamus3033
And so what? That doesn't give him the right to threaten him.
@@fluffynator6222 kinda justifies it though
@@sicariusflamus3033
No
"Was it worth destroying his family"
Well, it was already done
Liam had my sympathy the entire episode.
If this device was real it would be damaging, unhealthy , depressing for me
Drawingsbyyuli and people want this device because I know I did I always thought it would have been cool to re watch your memory’s and stuff but after seeing this episode it made me realize it won’t be healthy in doing so
In certain cases of Trauma, distancing your present self from that scenario helps a lot. This device would only help to replay that experience over and over again, which may lead one to go absolutely insane
And it would also be invaluable for any situation in which you need evidence
I feel bad for Liam. His wife cheated, lied to him and even lied about who was the child's father. Gut instinct often drives you to find out about things, and Liam's gut instinct did to. He was right.
Then he felt horrible, as people often do after his relationship with his loved one was torn away.
So he attempted to remove the thing that had helped him find out his wife cheated
I’m trying to figure out how we know for sure he’s not the dad?
Insecure or not Liam was right about everything . His wife was cheating on him and she continued to lie about it . He was and is the victim in this episode .
“The truth is better than the sweetest lie”
Albus Dumbledore
this episode was so relatable, really hit me hard.
Is a reflection of BPD in my case
I also don't hate Liam I'm actually on his side
She is a cheater
either way, liam is a hottie
absolutely
Spittin' facts
I think the whole point was that technology is a double edged sword. Did it help him discover the truth? Yes. Did it also create a rabbit hole effect that was psychologically damaging to him by allowing him to revisit past memories over and over? Yes. You’d get answers, but there’s a high price to be paid.
When it comes to lies(especially big ones like the kid isn't yours), give it time and they will always come back to bite you in the ass, this episode had the technology to make it happen and she still got away with it for at least 18 months.
I'd never want to be able to remember everything 100% somethings are better left forgotten
Amen to that
I definitely agree
Hell yeah 😎
That's why there's a delete button lol
@@GenerationalDisappointment yeah but then we're faced with the dilemma of whether we really wanna delete it after knowing about it
Cheaters will defend cheaters
Ever thought about how there's something between black and white.
@@fluffynator6222 Yeah, like what?
Did anyone else notice that not only did she cheat on her husband, and knew he wasn’t the father of the he child. She even sort of named the child after the real father. The disrespect
Fi + Liam = Jodie ❌
Fi + Jonas = Jodie ✅
Great catch
how can you even say it's his fault she cheated on him because she wouldn't have if 'Liam wasn't Liam' there's really no excuse for lying to ur husband then pretending that the child u have is his even tho it's not
YES RIGHT ON TIME MY FOOD JUST GOT DONE
Liam was absolutely justified in most of his actions here. Overly emotional and obsessive? Yes. But, nonetheless he made the right choice by confronting his partner and her lover. Ideally, one would do this from a clear head (not drunk and emotionally destructive), but then again, that wouldn't make for good telly. Phenomenal episode.
For the people who say that Liam is wrong, insecure, and obsessive they are either cheaters themselves who try to gaslight their partners into thinking that they are overthinking stuff.
I hated the wife SO MUCH HE WAS CUTE!!!
no he wasn’t
ً to YOU
@@user-rz5kt4uz2l im a male and he was a very atractive man
@@leo7325 say bye to your heterosexuality
@@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 lmao but when a women compliments another woman as looking attractive, that's perfectly fine. Gtfo scrub... It's 2021. Straight Men can find other men attractive
The wife's a cheater end of story...
If YOU dont think Liam is in the right in EVERY little thing in this episode. You need to change your morality on life. Hes the victim in every sense and Jonas and his wife both deserve to be alone for the rest of their lives.
The amount of people saying Liam is an "insecure, jealous, and obsessive man" is fucking blowing my mind. Everything he said was true. Sure, he had paranoia but for good reason (and logical too).
This sexism towards men in the modern society. If it was a guy who cheated, lied during the whole episode, and made the wife care for the baby that was made by him and different woman, people will go so hard on the main character. But since it's man who is a victim, everyone just says "this type of technology shouldn't be enforced" and suddenly gets defensive about the whole situation. Is women cheating a casual thing now?
Exactly and cheating by women has been on the rise for decades. Divorce rates high and it's not just the majority of the women innocent because half of them cheated and filed for divorce as if to "save face" making it look like their husbands were the cheaters. These types of modern women refused to take accountability for their cheating. Any woman in my family who acted like that would get a tongue lashing from the head of the family the Matriarch!
Thanks for still posting these in spite of the troubles you've had on TH-cam recently. As I've said before, your analyses are fantastic!
It’s such a parallel to our social networks, every employer, hell even the government looks at it to determine your intentions and your past actions, people who don’t have any Facebook, instagram, Twitter etc. are most commonly even looked at weird... and such small things as who’s pictures your partner liked, what they looked at can lead to suspicion
Datboicold Bruh lmao exactly! I don’t have any social media. TH-cam is the closest thing I have. But yup people think I’m weird and a social outcast when they find out I don’t have anything
yeah i dont have instagram and everybody just gives me those "how dare you... in 2019? this world?" it's just that i have but haven't used for more than a year so it's better to say i dont have an account. i barely have any followers too ..
Some people say Liam's insecure. But he was right all along, how is he insecure when his suspicions were right? Also pushing her onto bed wasn't abusive as it happened only once in that frustrating moment. He assulted Jonas, yes. But it's really hard to like Jonas after what he said at dinner. Don't diminish the meaning of 'abusive'.
Worst review EVER
@@Youknowwhoin2024 what do you think about this episode?
@@himurahaibara1459 I really liked this episode, it gave me some solid emotions
Liam definitely wasn't insecure.Anyone would have acted like that if they were in Liam's possition.He even says,"you know this is not me fi",while asking her for the truth.Fi definitely made a mistake.
Pretty crazy depiction of OCD as well. With the obsessions and his compulsive having to check the grain to examine every situation he’s been through. I find myself consistently going through past situations to see wether or not there is any truth to my obsessions..... Crazy how much I feel I actually relate to this episode....
Guillermo Ruiz he’s not obsessive per se. he’s a lawyer. He only does what he’s good at which is to piece evidence when things didn’t sit right
Wait wait wait...I mean Liam did some not cool things to get the truth...but ultimately he IS right...yet people think hes the loser and it's his fault that hes having such a troubling time? What?
Like...imagine having your kid kidnapped. You want answers so you go aggressively looking for those answers even if it means being violent...yet people say "hey dont go looking for answers because you might not like what you find out".
Then you find out they were brutally murdered...so you feel like crap and yet everyone blames YOU for it because you really just had to know and be violent trying to find out.. Like whaaaat??? (Its a more extreme example since I'm pretty sure people would find being violent about your kid being napped as much more justified but its just to make the point super clear)
Honestly...the wife sucks. She can gtfo. Hope Liam is happier without the grain too.
P.S.
Love how objective you are at evaluating these episodes my dude! Calling out all the bad that some people see as good simply because they personally feel justified and really...are basically just like the bad guys of the show. You show and explain how liam isnt perfect while also showing how the wife sucks too. (Tho imo the wife suuuuper sucks) good shiz boi! Definitely subscribing and shiz
@Fabian Lopez sure that COULD happen. Again...tho...theres a lot that can happen...good and bad
I hated her character so much and she nailed it so well that even when I saw she was gonna be the new doctor. I was just like mhmmm I rmr when you cheated on your husband and let him raise some manwhore's baby 😒.
lol Are you mixing up movies on purpose? Liam in this episode was a weak jerk, much evidence of this in the episode. His wife was a cheating ho, in my opinion if the kid was his for that long (even just half a year) it's still his kid. Even if he did PROVE it wasn't his kid in blood if he was a caring and strong individual he would step-up. Especially if he was certain his wife (/ex) was a dirtbag. But he was very selfish. More-so than his wife seemed to be. Though they were both TOO selfish imo and both made very crappy decisions.
@@ari3lz3pp3lin there is nothing wrong with not accepting a kid that is not his, what you are saying is just stupid. Nothing weak about not wanting a kid that is not YOURS.
Omfg.fuck your supposition.
I’d say that he was strong and resourceful. It usually takes a long time to build a case for your partner cheating and he had it figured out in a little over 24 hours. He treated this like the lawyer he is. He had evidence from a long time ago, key statements and testimonies. Minus him breaking the law, he did a great job
I think the most depressing about this whole thing is the fact that his wife still saving the whole tape..
I can see how this would be really unhealthy even in a marriage without adultery. Often there is this desire to be right even in the pettiest of squables. You said you'd take out the trash, I thought it was your turn to do the dishes, you chose the movie last time, etc... Being able to pull up an objectively perfect memory of what they said to 'win' the fight would ultimately just harbor resentment between you. My mom always said in marriage you have to choose, is it better to be right or happy? Even if you think you're right, sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and realize that whatever little thing you're fighting about isn't as important as the fact that you love them and want them to be happy.
Nice analysis however I say that goes with all relationships one has with family, friends and partners. They would choose to be right rather than to be happy. One girl I was with wanted to record our arguments but changed her mind, her reasoning was we would be sitting there constantly replaying and rewinding instead of actually dealing with whatever started the argument in the first place.
I can see the allure as a parent though, it wouldn't be so scary to leave my daughter with a babysitter or daycare if I knew I could check and make sure they're taking proper care of her and they knew I'd be watching. Would be too tempting to keep it in though, when I was in the first grade I was forced to write with my right hand despite being a lefty and in second grade I'd wet myself because the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom which caused horrible rashes. If there was a way to prove it my mom could've gone to the school board but it was a 6 year old's word against a teacher's. Still there would be all kinds of privacy issues and over analysis of the kid's every move that it would be impossible to have a happy and normal childhood.
Woah The story isn't about a little as who's turn is it to take out the trash.. is about cheating and unfaithfulness and i believe everyone have every right to know the truth about their partner. Especially the one you are married to.
Erick Jørgensen obviously. Seems like you missed the point she was making. Also one of the points being made in the video: there’s a reason why our memories aren’t 100% and this thing is as much a curse as it is a benefit.
He has Borderline Personality Disorder for realz
My question is:
How do schools, tests and learning would work if you can recall everything you see exhaustly
You just wouldn’t be allowed to use that little handheld tool they use to rewind and view past memories during tests.
JayWard413 or people would basically have photographic memory so school wouldn’t be “school” anymore, I think anyways
You need the clicker thing to activate it- so obviously they would make damn sure you don't have that on you! Or maybe you don't need tests- or it's about who can find the info fastest. lol Plus the one lady said not all memories are accurate.
Why do you need to take tests, when you can recall everything exhaustly?
@@christophersterling836 funny how a while back I heard someone saying this when the internet became a thing
Liam is way far from a bad guy idk what the owner of this channel will act if his wife cheated on him
Yeah he was gaslit for his entire relationship and kept finding crumbs of truth, of course he was going to be secure and in the end he ended up being correct about his suspicions.
She constantly lies to him and talk with Jonas in front of him happily. Like hello, are you okay? okay I respect this modern thinking, free will or smth like that. But I wouldn't be so intimate with my ex in front of my husband, the "fateh" of my child. She is the guilty of on Liam's downfall.
That’s so interesting! I do believe that loss of memory (or inaccurate memories) is really important in some situations. Memories of trauma, for example, can be blocked when they are simply too difficult for the person to re-experience. They can also be misremembered or replaced with something less painful. It’s an adaptive technique that helps us keep going instead of being paralyzed by difficult memories.
the whole time watching i thought hes gonna kill someone...
lol, same HAHA. but it turned out like a lawyer thing to him, that's why he investigated so much when suspicion rose.
"Not everything that isn't true is a lie" quote of the decade. 😂😂
Liam took the right steps. Now he can start over and enjoy the world with no more commitment.
Exactly
That ending scene with him going thru the house and redoing scenes is absolutely amazing
THANK YOUUUU!!!
Firstly this is my absolute favorite black mirror episode.
Secondly, I love all of your “explained.” Videos. They are so well done. 😊
"It is better to be unhappy and know the worst, than to be happy in a fool's paradise" -Fyodor Dostoyevsky
You keep saying that fi still loves him. But for me honestly, if the 'love' is her banging another guy every time they get into fights that's a pretty cheap love that don't deserve reciprocation
Oh hey there's the doctor addicted to pain
The Doctor?
@@cookiesncrime333 stop.
Ace Mustang
What is the matter?
Bruh that was by far the most uncomfortable episode for me
I like that you actually explain the ending. I've seen other "ending explained" videos that just described what happened.
I find it funny how when a guy gets cheated on, he is insecure and must have done something shitty to be cheated on.
When a woman is cheated on, the man is a monster and should be crucified. How people can defend the wife in this episode is crazy.
She cheated on her husband, lied to him constantly and had a child with the guy she had an affair with all while pretending the kid was her husbands.
Laughed so hard at the "We were on a break" reference.
FINALLY. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO A VIDEO ON THIS EPISODE
Liam had communication problems?? Wth that was phe
Maggie T. Thank you! Lmao! Totally agree!
i never saw liam in a bad light. sure, the truth hurts, but it also sets you free. he deserves a better relationship than what he had
Great channel to stumble upon! I love your break downs and comparisons! Love this show, love this channel! Subscribed!
Thank you so much, I'm glad you like them! Hearing stuff like this just gives me way more motivation to make more