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I LOVE your videos dude! I'm obsessed with EcoFlow and have been "Influencing" for them for about a year now and you help me learn even more! Great, in-depth video. Cheers.
Thanks for adding the refrig test (full run down time from 100%) to your review videos! I've got an older refrig, so this test is great to help me loosely "calibrate" the results to my usage situations across different units you review.
My Delta 2 I can use solar to charge but if I have no sun it will stitch to grid. Or if you have the smart generator at 20% it will start the generator. Up to 80%. So this is more useful than any other one I’ve seen. Thumbs up 👍.
I was stressing all week about the right solution for our slightly-unplanned off grid living situation. This video answered all my questions. I can’t thank you enough! My family is so glad to have me not obsessing about “mppt” this and “agm battery” that anymore. 😅 This is the most comprehensive review channel I have come across after a huge search. Thank you!
Absolutely the best review. You are straight to the point short and precise, You mention the most important point, really really superb specially with your x-cell sheet, You're the man I go to, to have a real honest review Thanks for your great work.
I bought 2 of the D2M's. For me they are the perfect size. That app is really slick but not needed, but I do highly recommended. I can monitor the D2M from anywhere I can get internet service.
As usual, another excellent in depth review. I really like the dual solar inputs and super quiet operation. Personally, I'd rather have the TT30 outlet and a set of wheels for RV and portable use but I get that Ecoflow is going after the stationary crowd. Another good test would be powering an RV air conditioner to see how well Xboost really works. That being said, Ecoflow really needs to improve their EPS function to 10ms or less to keep the back up power crowd happy. A lightweight custom tow cart would be awesome.
Working NG i Working innf Working into "sound world", just know thay every time you get a 9-10dB variation, it represents TWICE the volume we humans perceive as the actual sound volume being blasted out... So from 60 to 46 décibels, it's a wooorld of improvement when living into a camper !!!!
Thanks for the thorough breakdown! That's my first order down. Wasn't able to use those referrals if those codes acted as them (US-only) but to my surprise EcoFlow has a whole credits/points system with fairly nice rewards. What an interesting feeling doing something of this level just in case (especially with what El Nino cloud bring weather wise).
Thank you so much for this extremely in-depth review. You definitely deserve more views/subs. I had an enquiry in regards to the max voltage for the unit's solar input. On the EcoFlow site it doesn't really state if it's for both ports or per port but because your reviews are so extensive with in-depth analysis and experimentation, I found my answer, so thank you. So just to clarify once more, on the XT60 connections it's 60v max per port, correct?
Yep you can only connect solar panels with a total voltage of 60 volts max per port. So one array of 60 volts on one port, and another array of 60 volts on the other. Two separate arrays for up to 1000 watts.
Another excellent analysis and presentation. One item that apparently wasn’t improved is the rear power button. This is a bother in my Delta Max (w two extra batteries) installation in my Airstream Travel Trailer. A front button would be better. That, and the app requiring WiFi rather than bluetooth. We use ours extensively, I’m very satisfied, and figure that by the time I hit 800 cycles with my original Max, there will be a Delta 6 Max.
Jason, great review and summary of the specs to include pros/cons of the Delta2 Max, I purchased one today and Eco Flow (if you don't login to their site) is offering the Delta2 Max and 2 Free 110W Solar Panels for FREE for under $2100. This help when PGE invokes energy blackouts this summer. I'll pick up a Smart X battery after I receive my unit.
Once again a great review. I did not hear anything about a wireless charge pad so I assume no. It also did not support bi-directional charging via USB C ports or 240 volt outlet via the connecting cable to the add on battery, BUT the 2 PV charging ports, each capable of 500 watts, the upgrade to LFP battery and the new fans are fantastic additions and changes.
So I have another question for you! (I'm still learning and love this stuff and you seem to be very knowledgable!) I have this Delta 2 Max and two EcoFlow 400W panels. I've read a bunch and seem to understand how the MPPT charge controller works (roughly), but I'm able to connect my two panels in parallel correct? Which would technically exceed the max current (and 500W cap of the solar port). To my understanding, The Delta 2 Max and the charge controller will limit the current coming in. And in this video, your four 180W panels would theoretically output 720W so it does cap at 500W, but would it be bad to input 800W or more (assuming you NEVER exceed the voltage limit)? Looking forward to hear what you think! I trust you and your vast knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate all the helpful videos! JF
Since the Delta 2 Max has two solar charging ports, I'd recommend connecting each 400w panel to their own charging port. Then you'll get more power than connecting them in parallel. However...if you happened to connect both 400w panels together in parallel using one charging port, the power station would limit the current as you described and it would not cause an issue.
@@Jasonoid Awesome! Thank you. Yeah my thought was to use one port for the parallel 400Ws and then a 220W on the other! (or two) to max out the 1000W input. 🙌
@@Jasonoid Another question for you! Do I need to worry about the amount of current going through my EcoFlow parallel cables or my XT60 cable? With m 2 400W in parallel it should be around 26A. (12.9x2) Thanks for all your help!
@Jasonoid, Excellent excellent review! I'm waiting on delivery of my Delta 2 Max and this single video has answered so many of my questions! One thing I would really like to find out pertains to the dual charging capability. I'm curious if I can limit the AC charging speed via the app, and also use a few of the Newpowa panels you linked to "top up" the battery during the day while effectively supplementing a portion of the AC output at night. It may require some trial and error to strike a good balance, but any idea if this could work?
While they might not be officially supported by EcoFlow, I have seen the older Delta Max batteries charge and discharge with this newer model that my friend tested. So it might be compatible the other way around too.
Ill be honest, this video just made my decision for me. I will get the unit with the extra battery along with the 400 watt solar panels to use in my home. I will have to do some calculations to see how i can split things up. I guess i will be running a lot of extension cords in my home.
I almost pulled the trigger on this but I was disappointed in the limitations on the DC side. A PS of this size should offer a 15 amp port. My off grid setup will include a 12v diesel heater.
Jason, was wondering if you would check something for me (us). You showed in this video that maxing out all THREE charging ports (120 VAC & two charge controllers) the Delta 2 Max would combine all three and charged at near 2700 watts!. Now that they released the Ecoflow Alternator Charger that plugs in where the expansion battery would plug into...could you test if you had all three rear charge inputs running and then added the 800 watt alternator charger...would it charge at near 3500 watts ! ?
I am looking for a home emergency backup system. I am trying to decide between the new Delta 2 Max and the new Jackery 2000 plus. If I go on vacation and use the system in UPS mode for my refrigerator and freezer and the battery goes dead, does either system turn back on when either solar or ac come back on?
The Delta 2 Max has a 'lab feature' that is supposed to turn everything back on when power is restored. It wasn't active yet when I tested in my video. I think that feature will be working soon. I'm not sure on the Jackery 2000 Plus. I'm hoping to test the 2000 Plus here in the future.
Window AC will pull 500 watts, that means 4 hours of runtime or so. Expansion battery will double that, runtime if you have solar to offset the the load you can run indefinitely.
@@Jasonoid THANK YOU….👍some knowledge in that the solar panels usually come standard to 100 watts or 5.2 amps which I am deducting from your message then minimum 5 panels? Is an inverted and regulator needed? Are you in the business where I can buy from you or is there someplace you recommend?
Ok BLUETTI, the ball is on your side of the court. I am a Bluetti user, but I think Bluetti needs to put out a smart generator like Ecoflow’s. I know you can use a regular generator, but the conversion loss puts it at a disadvantage to the smart generator.
Watched your video again, because of you I have learned so much, whereas at the beginning I did not have enough knowledge to ask a proper question. I have the Delta 2000 max that I use as a EPS for my fridge when I travel out of town. Do you know if I purchased an extension battery and left it turned on with the Delta 2000 max if it would eventually drain, or would it maintain its charge due to the EPS function or pass through charging? I hope I made sense.
Great review, the Delta 2 Max looks like a really nice piece of equipment however I've already bought the Delta 2 and extra battery, my budget won't allow more lol
Hi Jason Great information and thorough review as always! I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into testing and presenting the information in an unbiased, fact-based manner An upgrade important to us I hope they will do eventually, is a higher DC outputs for the more recent Apple computers. I love my Ecoflow River2 Pro and would not hesitate to buy another EF product. Definitely considering this one for our emergency backup with solar and to run my Ham radio rig - so glad EF improved the noise specs. Have a great day!!!😊 Katy
Thanks for the video. Partially based on a previous video of yours, I’ve set up the Victron 12/24 to recharge the Delta 2 Max (on order) in our Gladiator build which will power our setup. You mention in this video you don’t love the Delta 2 Max for camping/over landing. Can you elaborate? We had a travel trailer and can’t think of anything we can’t power with Delta 2 Max in our Gladiator build. Also have the Glacier fridge with 2 barriers and a River Pro. Feel it’s been a cheaper route with more benefits than doing a dual battery system with a Redarc controller that’s stuck inside Jeep.
The only reason is that the DC output is limited to 130 watts so powering larger DC loads won't work well. If that's not a worry than this will work great since the AC inverter is plenty powerful to run AC stuff.
While it may not be officially supported, it should still connect and charge / discharge. My friend connected his older Delta Max (NMC) battery to it and it worked.
Would be interested in brownout tests of power stations using a Variac ( Variable Autotransformer ). I don’t think I’ve seen that on any other channel. Saw a report on one EPS review that the power station shutdown for the user instead of switching to battery in a brownout condition.
Are you saying that if grid power goes down this unit can simply be plugged into any wall outlet and pass that power through all the lines and power my refrigerator, television, lamps? So i wouldnt need to get an electrician to install a generator plug into my breaker panel?
It only powers the appliances connected to the inverter outlets on the back. The 120v outlets need to be connected to your devices for them to be powered.
Great review from your premier power station review site. Bought the Bluetti EB55 after viewing your review a while back. Now looking at the smaller Ecoflow Delta 2. Is it compatible with the new Delta 2 Max 2 KWh extra battery?
Great video! Really looking forward to more info on hacking our own 'expansion' batteries. Question: With the Delta2Max's dual 60V 15A solar inputs, did it really limit each to 500W despite that it theoretically could handle 900W (60x15) and voltage is usually the limiting variable, or was that just a coincidence with your panel & sun setup?
Here's the video using expansion batteries: th-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/w-d-xo.html Each charge controller is limited to 500 watts, even if you have it maxed out at 60v and 15 amps.
My eco 2 with smart battery runs my fullsize top loading washing machine for numerous loads , but when tried it with my electric clothes dryer it stopped ' "overload". Will the ecoflow delta 2 max run my electric clothes dryer with added smart battery? Both are whirlpool. I'm elderly so the bigger batteries are not an option. Thank you
I live in Canada and just bought the Delta 2 Max with the 200w solar panel. I like the reveiw that you did and I think I will be very happy with it. The only question that I did find an answer to is How long of a cable can I use between the Delta and the solar panel ? And what type 10 or 12AWG?
I did a whole video on voltage drop, you might find it helpful: th-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/w-d-xo.html I'd recommend using 10awg wire for anything over 30 feet. 12awg wire for a run less than that.
I have a Renogy 200 watt solar suitcase and run up to 160 feet of 8AWG cables. I have seen the following currents: 40 feet: 11.2 A 80 feet: 10.2 A 160 feet: 9.2 A Yeah, deep in the shade :)
@@mt.sylvania9218 yeah that's a long run for a solar panel. If you ever get two panels for more power, running them in series will really help with the voltage drop (as long as your power station can handle panels in series)
Thanks for your video! I enjoy all of your content, so any future ideas you have will no doubt be excellent. Like you, I am frustrated by the lack of options out there when it comes to DC outputs limited to 10 amps. I have a Bluetti AC200P, and at this point its best feature is its 25 amp DC port. I'm not really sure why this hasn't become an industry standard yet. Perhaps you can shed some light on that. 🤔
I wish there was a standard on DC output but there isn't. I think an Anderson Powerpole or XT90 30 amp output would be legit! I wish these companies did a little more market research beforehand so they could know what people are looking for. All is takes is a couple questions to get a hold of some decent reviewers and they could have this information. With a higher DC output and a slightly faster UPS mode, this would be my go to recommendation for everyone! haha
TH-camr jehugarcia already did this with a server rack 20k setup as well a bunch of recycled scooter batteries as another setup. To show a plug & play turn key setup & diy setup using recycled batteries. But it was using Delta Pro's being charged by the server racks.Same concept may work for the Delta Max.
@@1ENDUSER yeah, usually trying to sell his in stock batteries. He does tend to leave out some details to make it beginner friendly. Great content on his channel. I got into his stuff awhile back when he converted the electric VW van.
Surprised to see you pulled 138W from the barrel plug 😳 Surprised but happy. Owners manual says 3A or 38W max. Perhaps it’s a misprint and should be 138W as in your testing? 🤔
Nah, it's not a misprint, these 5521 ports are not designed for high power draw over time, they will get fairly warm above 65 watts. It's perfect to run a 12v fridge since they are more secure, but I wouldn't go much higher than that wattage off the 5521 ports.
Using the 19v voc panels in a 3s configuration would not be recommended for a long term setup. Panels are rated at 70f typically and will produce more voltage as they get colder. Your 3s array would go well above 60v in colder temps.
Yeah. I thought that would be an issue so I tested them through the winter many times, they never went over 19v surprisingly. I had them in this same config on my AC500 batteries and my Delta 2 (both have 60v cuttoffs). They usually sit around 55 volts to 57 volts VOC.
Why would you think two Ecco delta 2 max units should not be connected for longer time back up. I Would rather have 2 main units versus one plus an accessory expansion battery….for better individual..separate usage…….but also I like idea of a total 4 k linked storage capacity. Thoughts on risks? Thanks
They aren't designed to be connected together like the expansion batteries. You could definitely use one main unit, once it's near empty, plug in the second unit. The first unit could start charging back up while the second one is in use.
The one thing I cared most about was not properly demonstrated because you connected another battery to it. I’d like to know how long it would last with say a fridge, a fan, some lightbulbs and a TV plugged into it (in case of a power outage)
@@Jasonoid ok. But how about a full on test like that? Real world where there’s a power outage type situation! (With just the one battery like most people would have) until it runs out.
New firmware update today claims: "Shortened UPS time from 30 ms to less than 20 ms." plus "Optimized energy management". Can you update your Delta 2 MAX and test the PC again?
If you use a 12V DC-DC 20A charger will it charge at 20A? Or do you need to go with 12-24V boost converter? Similarly, if you put the metal pin cable on 12V car, how much will it pull from car circuit?
The Delta 2 fans are definitely louder than the Delta 2 Max fans. The new Max fans are very quiet. I have videos of both being tested so if you watch both videos in two different tabs at the same time you can hear how they sound.
excellent review. I am working on home emergency backup. I have sub panel in place only 120v, I just need outlet, will a regular outlet work or do I need special outlet to plug in the Delta 2 MAX. I would also be using the automation feature to shift the charging to a lower rate time. hope you could provide more info on this feature in the future. Thanks again for excellent review.
You'll need to install a 'transfer switch' or a main panel 'interlock' in order to safely run your home circuits off a power station. I have installed a couple of them, they are simple to install if you follow the detailed install instructions. Here's a video of my first one I installed: th-cam.com/video/eiWnqukg9mM/w-d-xo.html I now have a 10 circuit model I installed that supports 240v input.
Understood. The sub panel has its own circuit breakers for each line. Does that not count as a transfer switch. I looked at video, very informative. I believe I have a similar setup, I believe I just need to add a three pronged plug then add delta 2 max. I am thinking of adding EG4 battery because it adds more wattage than ECOFLOW expansion battery. Thank you for your response and videos are very informative. My main goal is to transfer electric loads to a cheaper rates at night. The ECOFLOW is offering that possibility, trouble finding info or videos on that function which I think will grow in use in the future. Thank you very much.
@@salsero23 a transfer switch disconnects line power and uses the power station as the power source. You'll need a transfer switch to get the same effect.
I purchased the Delta 2 MAX. All is working great. I am not having success with the automation portion of the app. I cannot seem to find much on its use. working with ECOFLOW now with this issue. This may be the subject for a short video in the future.
Does it have Bluetooth yet? You mentioned Bluetooth, but I want to verify, as my Delta Max doesn't. My direct connect always times out. I use it in my overland rig with an upgraded alternator and a properly-installed 2000w inverter. But the app always times out and I have to reach down into the Ecoflow compartment to reconnect via wifi.
Just got mine today, at first it asked for wifi so I turned on my phone’s hotspot and connected it tried to update but it didn’t do so it disconnected from wifi and now I’m just using it with Bluetooth.
Hi. Thank you for your review. Could you please clarify if it is possible to connect Delta 2 Max to Delta 2 via the corresponding charging port for an Extra Battery and vice versa? I have Delta 2 and would like to increase the capacity, however, I do not wish to buy an Extra Battery for 2kWh since it has no functionality and the price difference is also small. I am from Ukraine and the difference in price is less than $400 (about $2050 for Delta 2 Max and about $1650 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery) if you buy not from the official Ecoflow store since the price for Europe is much higher (about EUR 2100 for Delta 2 Max - it is about $2300, and EUR1500 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery - it is about $1600). For US the difference is about $350 ($1749 for Delta 2 Max and about $1399 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery). If I pay this difference I will receive the "stand-alone" device which I can use anywhere. Also, could you please let me know, if it is possible to connect the Delta 2 Max Extra Battery ordered from US to my European Delta 2 since there is a difference in voltages: 220V vs 110V? As I understand, the Extra Battery charges the "main battery" with its "own" voltage from 48v to 60v (and vise versa), and on Black Friday, for example, I may get a good discount from Ecoflow US official store or Amazon))). In such a case Delta 2 Max Extra Battery is worth the money. Thank you in advance.
The power stations cannot connect to eachother directly, they can only connect to their smart batteries. I'd recommend using a standalone battery to extend the runtime of your power station. I have a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/w-d-xo.html
Hey Jasonoid! Thanks for all your work on these reviews. I'm interested in a Solar Power Station for use as a music PA system - so inverter noise is VERY important. This review shows the Delta2 max with around 1538mV of noise and seems nice and quiet through the amp, whereas your Pecron E600LFP shows slightly more 1546mV and makes an audible buzz. Is this due to the amp settings? Would you say the Delta2 max is noticeabley quieter noise wise than the Pecron E600?
There are many different types of 'noise' that the inverter could be putting out. The dirty electricity meter measures EMI noise, there could also be RFI noise. The amp settings are the same on all my videos so if you don't hear noise on the amp test you should be okay.
Like to see the comparison video. Question…lets just say you have no smart device. No BT or WiFi. Can you still make any of those changes to through the screen on the Delta 2 max? Love that the fans are so much quieter now. This is just out of my fixed budget so i interested in the comparison video. Keep up the good work. Thanks for all you do!
The settings are only controllable via the smart app. If you didn't have a smart phone you could always have a friend / family member use their phone to set the settings up as you like.
Hi, Does the Delta 2 Max unit has kind self heating batterie or temperature control inside for the cold time? And do we need to make full charged/Discharged in first time? Thanks
What do you think would be the best inexpensive off grid 12v battery to start with, drop in type v server rack for indoor install that can easily be exapnded upon and initially run 12v appliances?
You'd want a 12v LFP battery that accepts series connections so you can expand in the future to higher voltage and has low temp charging protection. This Dr. Prepare battery is an excellent value and is priced really good right now ($300 or so): th-cam.com/video/dd1W8_tdl2c/w-d-xo.html
Hello again from Spain, Jasón, tengo una pregunta porfavor, la batería adicional Delta2(1kw) es compatible, se puede usar junto con la Ecoflow Delta2 Max(2kw) ? Thanks again!
If your appliances use 120 volts, they will plug into the 2400 watt inverter. This will power a full sized fridge, microwaves, and other appliances. It will not power 240v appliances like electric stoves or electric dryers / heaters.
Question about output of barrel plugs. I thought the max was 3 amps... so 3x12.5volts - is about 37ish watts. Did you say you were able to pull 137 watts from the barrel port?? how can this be? I can understand maybe getting that from the 12v cig socket but don't understand that wattage come from barrel port. Did I misunderstand you? thank you.
In my testing the max wattage allowed from the any of the DC ports is 137 watts. You can get that from the cigarette port or the barrel ports. The recommended max power is 3 amps but it doesn't stop there.
If the compressors ran 24/7 for both your fridge and freezer, they would last around 8 hours. Usually the compressors don't run all the time (kinda depends on ambient temps). I am guessing you'd get close to 15 to 20 hours runtime without charging.
So a Delta max add on battery can work on a delta 2 max unit, but what about the other way around, they will make a Delta 2 max add on battery, would this work with the Delta Max?
I think it goes either way, I don't have both to test with but Todd Parker (he's got a youtube channel with a review) tested the old Max batteries and they worked.
@@Jasonoid Will definitely check this channel out to find out, Thanks, I did see some sales of the Delta 2 Smart battery which have a Note under that says 'For the Delta 2 models only' - Im hoping this is just due to a lack of information. To me it feels like it might not work due to the different battery chemistries ,but i really hope it does.Otherwise it causes upgrade issues for many with Gen 1 products. Why would one pay the same price to get a 800cycle battery instead of a 3000cycle one. But ill check the video out,maybe he clarifies this more
could you charge this delta 2 max using a battery like the powerqueen 12.8v 200Ah with 2 xt60i cables connected going to both charge ports at the same time? that would charge it at like 400 watts input id guess.
12v batteries charge the power station at 100w, so 100w per port, 200w total. You need to boost the voltage to 24v or 36v to get faster charging speeds.
Wow, what timing. I was considering getting the Delta 2 this weekend. Now I need to reconsider. I have been waiting for this to be released but had no idea when it would come out. I love EcoFlow products and this seems to be a solid option. However, I am leaning towards the Delta 2 because of the better Wh/$ that I can get it for. I wish they would have added a few more new features, such as a better connection method for the extra batteries. Maybe external batteries that can work independently like Bluetti. Tough choices. Thanks for a great video.
The smaller Delta 2 unit is a great portable unit. I use it around the yard all the time to power my tools. I love that it takes in decent solar and has the large 1800 watt inverter. The Delta 2 Max is a bit larger. If you got room for the bigger unit I guess you can't go wrong! I think both of them would work well.
@@Jasonoid Thank you. I am starting to worry that I am becoming a power station collector. I keep justifying it by saying I don’t have enough power to run the whole house during a long power outage yet. Haha.
@@Jasonoid My thought exactly! I decided portability and looked at how much power I would need to run tools like a pole saw to trim trees. Delta 2 is the perfect size for portability that you can carry with one hand and at decent price. I can even run most items in my house during a power outage. Even my oil furnace! What we really need is more battery storage for times when the grid goes down. I purchased my Delta 2 with the Delta max battery for that reason and I also have three 12.8V 100AH Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries wired in series that I connect to the solar input which allows me to run the Delta 2 much longer. Then I recharge the following day with my gas generator if the power is down for a long time. Easily gets me through a night of use. Cant run a dryer but that can wait for the grid to come alive again. I just wanted enough power to make it through a full 10+ hours running everything but the 240V appliances. I might have considered the Delta 2 Max but I still think the smaller Delta 2 is the best option for me. Someone with more home power demands will probably benefit more with the Delta 2 max or the Delta Pro. I think the Delta 2 is a better bang for the buck. I use it way more because its so small and light with plenty of power to satisfy my needs.
Hola, otra vez Jason, desde España, gracias por tu labor, y por tus vídeos! Una pregunta porfavor, cómo puedo alargar la vida útil de una batería de extensión Delta Max? Quiero duplicar los ciclos de carga, de 800 a ..1600. Muy importante, uso una Delta2 Max(2048w LFP)con una batería de extension Delta Max (2016w solo800ciclos) Es posible? Que me aconsejas? Cuanto se pueden alargar los ciclos de carga, y como! Gracias, y como siempre estupendo trabajo!!
Cargar y descargar lentamente es una forma de prolongar la vida útil de la batería. Mantener el porcentaje de batería entre el 20% y el 95% también prolongará la vida útil de la batería.
I have a technical question, that none of the review videos seem to address about these. I'm not interested in running a fridge or a whole house full of appliances. I simply have 1125 watts of 5V Dream color changing LEDs, about 25 strips 1 to 2 meters in length, each meter has 144 LEDs. Each 1 meter length is 45W. My question is, how long will this 1000Wh power station be able to operate them? According to my calculator 45 x 25 = 1125. By that math this new and improved power station could only operate these lights for less than an hour. Is that correct? What's twisting my head in a knot is, that one 45W strip can be powered by a single 20,000mAh 74Wh Li-ion rechargeable power bank via a 5v 2A usb port for 1 hour and only drain about 25% of its available power. Am I missing something here? It seems as though buying 25 individual power banks will cost less and offer me far more illumination time than this power station.
Sounds like the 'rated power' is way higher than what the LED lights actually pull. Do you have a way to see the actually wattage of the LEDs as they are running? If you are plugging these LED lights into a '5v 2 amp' USB port is only rated for 10 watts, so technically you can't be pulling more than 10 watts for the entire string (especially if you aren't injecting power down the line). If you are running the lights off a small USB power bank and getting about 4 hours of runtime, you'd probably get around 100 hours or 200 hours of runtime on a large power station like this. You could probably go with a smaller more affordable option and get great results.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your quick reply to my comment. I hope you're correct, suggesting that I could use something smaller and more affordable. The thought of having to carry a 50+ pound power station for this purpose wasn't appealing. I'm afraid that as far as technical understanding to determine what the light strip's draw might be is beyond me. However, I may be able to get that determination answered via some help. I'll head over to where I can seek that answer now and hope they can offer me some understanding.
@@regmiles Your 5v usb port wouldn't function on more than 10 watts of power. So those LED lights can't be drawing much power. Good luck on finding out more about your power draw. You should be fine on even a 500wh power station.
@jasonoid in your expert opinion what do think the best portable power station for overlanding for at least a week would be? I had my mind made up about this throughout the video and for you to say that it wouldn't be the best for overlanding was disappointing. Any advise? I typically have a fridge heaters and appliances for cooking charging devices and other peoples stuff.
If you are only powering a DC fridge on the 12v sockets it will work great. If you want to power more 12v devices at the same time, that's where it won't handle the output. It all depends on what you are trying to power. The AC inverter works really well on this model so if you were using the inverter for your appliances it will work just fine. Things that won't work: - diesel heaters - 12v aircompressors - Anything DC that pulls over 140 watts
Check out the time stamps and go to the charging section. I tested dual charging with AC and solar and it worked just fine. The app also has settings priority for solar.
i like my delta pro but i wish it could take a lot more solar and i wish it would charge from the wall while it runs an air conditioner instead of kicking on and off
I've heard good things about the Delta Pro but I don't have one personally. It was the first large unit that they made so I think they will plan to update it eventually. Hopefully with more solar input and other improvements!
The Delta 2 as a game changer and is still the best sub $1000 you can buy. While the Delta 2 Max is a definite improvement over the old Delta Max, and is a great power station to get if you are new to the 2KW+ market, i couldn't see it replacing a Bluetti AC200 MAX, which does have 30A 12 VDC outlet and can use the B300 batteries, which also fit the AC300 and AC500. It would have been nice to see the Delta 2 Max being able to use the Delta Pro batteries in addition to the 2KW batteries made for it. But, we can't have it all. Eco Flow is definitely better at customer support. Also, does the Delta 2 Max work with Eco Flow's dual fuel generator like the Delta Pro does? That would be a huge selling point. Thanks for the great review!
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
It might be just fine. The batteries are pretty secured inside the power station. If nothing sounds loose inside than just test it out and see how it goes!
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@@robamarshall85 really!? Wow.... Great fail Ecoflow!
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as per ups switch gap problem would it solve with an inline module for small time ups surge protector style
@@indegruv if you purchase a true small UPS unit and put it inline with the inverter that will bypass the slowness for sure.
I LOVE your videos dude! I'm obsessed with EcoFlow and have been "Influencing" for them for about a year now and you help me learn even more! Great, in-depth video. Cheers.
That's fantastic!. Keep up the great work, and continue spreading the EcoFlow love!❤😀
@@EcoFlowTech Always!
Thanks for adding the refrig test (full run down time from 100%) to your review videos! I've got an older refrig, so this test is great to help me loosely "calibrate" the results to my usage situations across different units you review.
My Delta 2 I can use solar to charge but if I have no sun it will stitch to grid. Or if you have the smart generator at 20% it will start the generator. Up to 80%. So this is more useful than any other one I’ve seen. Thumbs up 👍.
I was stressing all week about the right solution for our slightly-unplanned off grid living situation. This video answered all my questions. I can’t thank you enough! My family is so glad to have me not obsessing about “mppt” this and “agm battery” that anymore. 😅 This is the most comprehensive review channel I have come across after a huge search. Thank you!
Glad it helped! The Delta 2 Max is a great offering and works really well.
you can tell he didn't pay for it when he's shooting off sawdust so close to the fans
Absolutely the best review. You are straight to the point short and precise, You mention the most important point, really really superb specially with your x-cell sheet, You're the man I go to, to have a real honest review Thanks for your great work.
I bought 2 of the D2M's. For me they are the perfect size. That app is really slick but not needed, but I do highly recommended. I can monitor the D2M from anywhere I can get internet service.
As usual, another excellent in depth review. I really like the dual solar inputs and super quiet operation. Personally, I'd rather have the TT30 outlet and a set of wheels for RV and portable use but I get that Ecoflow is going after the stationary crowd. Another good test would be powering an RV air conditioner to see how well Xboost really works. That being said, Ecoflow really needs to improve their EPS function to 10ms or less to keep the back up power crowd happy. A lightweight custom tow cart would be awesome.
Great points LeafNuts! Maybe one day I'll have an RV to add that type of Air Conditioning test but for now I'm limited to car camping haha.
Very down to the point.
You're getting better and better in your reviews.
Congratulations!
Thanks Ricardo, no sense is wasting people's time. Time is valuable 👍😊
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Working into "sound world", just know thay every time you get a 9-10dB variation, it represents TWICE the volume we humans perceive as the actual sound volume being blasted out... So from 60 to 46 décibels, it's a wooorld of improvement when living into a camper !!!!
Thanks for the thorough breakdown! That's my first order down. Wasn't able to use those referrals if those codes acted as them (US-only) but to my surprise EcoFlow has a whole credits/points system with fairly nice rewards. What an interesting feeling doing something of this level just in case (especially with what El Nino cloud bring weather wise).
Thank you so much for this extremely in-depth review. You definitely deserve more views/subs.
I had an enquiry in regards to the max voltage for the unit's solar input. On the EcoFlow site it doesn't really state if it's for both ports or per port but because your reviews are so extensive with in-depth analysis and experimentation, I found my answer, so thank you. So just to clarify once more, on the XT60 connections it's 60v max per port, correct?
Yep you can only connect solar panels with a total voltage of 60 volts max per port. So one array of 60 volts on one port, and another array of 60 volts on the other. Two separate arrays for up to 1000 watts.
Another excellent analysis and presentation. One item that apparently wasn’t improved is the rear power button. This is a bother in my Delta Max (w two extra batteries) installation in my Airstream Travel Trailer. A front button would be better. That, and the app requiring WiFi rather than bluetooth. We use ours extensively, I’m very satisfied, and figure that by the time I hit 800 cycles with my original Max, there will be a Delta 6 Max.
Thanks for the great review. I loved the panel testing.
I always try to show real world solar testing in my videos.
Jason, great review and summary of the specs to include pros/cons of the Delta2 Max, I purchased one today and Eco Flow (if you don't login to their site) is offering the Delta2 Max and 2 Free 110W Solar Panels for FREE for under $2100. This help when PGE invokes energy blackouts this summer. I'll pick up a Smart X battery after I receive my unit.
Once again a great review. I did not hear anything about a wireless charge pad so I assume no. It also did not support bi-directional charging via USB C ports or 240 volt outlet via the connecting cable to the add on battery, BUT the 2 PV charging ports, each capable of 500 watts, the upgrade to LFP battery and the new fans are fantastic additions and changes.
Yeah, no wireless charging nor bidirectional USBc ports but the LFP and dual charging ports upgrades are very good in my opinion.
So I have another question for you! (I'm still learning and love this stuff and you seem to be very knowledgable!)
I have this Delta 2 Max and two EcoFlow 400W panels. I've read a bunch and seem to understand how the MPPT charge controller works (roughly), but I'm able to connect my two panels in parallel correct? Which would technically exceed the max current (and 500W cap of the solar port). To my understanding, The Delta 2 Max and the charge controller will limit the current coming in. And in this video, your four 180W panels would theoretically output 720W so it does cap at 500W, but would it be bad to input 800W or more (assuming you NEVER exceed the voltage limit)?
Looking forward to hear what you think! I trust you and your vast knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate all the helpful videos!
JF
Since the Delta 2 Max has two solar charging ports, I'd recommend connecting each 400w panel to their own charging port. Then you'll get more power than connecting them in parallel. However...if you happened to connect both 400w panels together in parallel using one charging port, the power station would limit the current as you described and it would not cause an issue.
@@Jasonoid Awesome! Thank you. Yeah my thought was to use one port for the parallel 400Ws and then a 220W on the other! (or two) to max out the 1000W input. 🙌
@@Jasonoid Another question for you! Do I need to worry about the amount of current going through my EcoFlow parallel cables or my XT60 cable? With m 2 400W in parallel it should be around 26A. (12.9x2) Thanks for all your help!
@@Voicesofjake since the power station limits the current to 13 amps, you'll only see 13 amps through your wiring, no need to worry about it.
@@Jasonoid Oh perfect! So throughout the whole setup, it'll only draw the max the power station can have?
@Jasonoid, Excellent excellent review! I'm waiting on delivery of my Delta 2 Max and this single video has answered so many of my questions! One thing I would really like to find out pertains to the dual charging capability. I'm curious if I can limit the AC charging speed via the app, and also use a few of the Newpowa panels you linked to "top up" the battery during the day while effectively supplementing a portion of the AC output at night. It may require some trial and error to strike a good balance, but any idea if this could work?
Hi! Very nice review! Are the new LFP extra batteries compatible with the delta max?
While they might not be officially supported by EcoFlow, I have seen the older Delta Max batteries charge and discharge with this newer model that my friend tested. So it might be compatible the other way around too.
Thanks for the reply!
Ill be honest, this video just made my decision for me. I will get the unit with the extra battery along with the 400 watt solar panels to use in my home. I will have to do some calculations to see how i can split things up. I guess i will be running a lot of extension cords in my home.
I almost pulled the trigger on this but I was disappointed in the limitations on the DC side. A PS of this size should offer a 15 amp port. My off grid setup will include a 12v diesel heater.
Yeah, that's sure one of the cons. Bluetti has 30 / 25 amp DC outputs which is an attractive feature!
Just picked this up with two free ecoflow 160w panels for $1574.
great improvement those new fans
Jason, was wondering if you would check something for me (us). You showed in this video that maxing out all THREE charging ports (120 VAC & two charge controllers) the Delta 2 Max would combine all three and charged at near 2700 watts!. Now that they released the Ecoflow Alternator Charger that plugs in where the expansion battery would plug into...could you test if you had all three rear charge inputs running and then added the 800 watt alternator charger...would it charge at near 3500 watts ! ?
With the new Ecoflow alternator charger the delta 2 max is an awesome power kit for campers or van lifers.
That new car charger is a pretty cool device.
Yes! Ive been waiting for this ! Thank you Jason 👍🏼
Let me know what you think once you finish the video!
I am looking for a home emergency backup system. I am trying to decide between the new Delta 2 Max and the new Jackery 2000 plus. If I go on vacation and use the system in UPS mode for my refrigerator and freezer and the battery goes dead, does either system turn back on when either solar or ac come back on?
The Delta 2 Max has a 'lab feature' that is supposed to turn everything back on when power is restored. It wasn't active yet when I tested in my video. I think that feature will be working soon. I'm not sure on the Jackery 2000 Plus. I'm hoping to test the 2000 Plus here in the future.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your response
You have the best reviews. I’ve watched a ton.
If you plug in Ecoflow unit into a window small A/C unit , how many hours can you get out of it before having to recharge?
Window AC will pull 500 watts, that means 4 hours of runtime or so. Expansion battery will double that, runtime if you have solar to offset the the load you can run indefinitely.
@@Jasonoid THANK YOU….👍some knowledge in that the solar panels usually come standard to 100 watts or 5.2 amps which I am deducting from your message then minimum 5 panels? Is an inverted and regulator needed? Are you in the business where I can buy from you or is there someplace you recommend?
@@williamzee7748 these will work great, one per charging port:
th-cam.com/video/pLRKljjaqMA/w-d-xo.html
I was starting to think they weren't going to upgrade the Delta Max when I didn't see it at CES. Glad they did
I think unexpected things are always fun, And more innovative stuff are coming, stay tuned😉
Ok BLUETTI, the ball is on your side of the court. I am a Bluetti user, but I think Bluetti needs to put out a smart generator like Ecoflow’s. I know you can use a regular generator, but the conversion loss puts it at a disadvantage to the smart generator.
Bluetti vs Ecoflow
Let the games begin..🔥⚡️🔥⚡️🔥
Indeed, having a smart generator like EcoFlow's brings several advantages over the others ones.✌
@EcoFlowTech your product are not that great for solar input.
Another great review.
Thanks for checking it out!
Pretty sure this is going to be my next unit. Thank you for the video and info.
Glad the video was helpful :)
You will make the right choice, I can't wait to see you becoming one of the Ecoflow Family.
Watched your video again, because of you I have learned so much, whereas at the beginning I did not have enough knowledge to ask a proper question. I have the Delta 2000 max that I use as a EPS for my fridge when I travel out of town. Do you know if I purchased an extension battery and left it turned on with the Delta 2000 max if it would eventually drain, or would it maintain its charge due to the EPS function or pass through charging? I hope I made sense.
I’ll wait till Black Friday. When they’ll be at around $1500
Great review, the Delta 2 Max looks like a really nice piece of equipment however I've already bought the Delta 2 and extra battery, my budget won't allow more lol
Nice one. I think I need to look at the spreadsheet again, as I am considering another large power station.
Decisions, decisions. So many options available.
Another good one as always!!! Lezzz gooo!
The smaller Delta 2 w/extra battery is $1049 at Home Depot right now.
Hi Jason
Great information and thorough review as always! I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into testing and presenting the information in an unbiased, fact-based manner
An upgrade important to us I hope they will do eventually, is a higher DC outputs for the more recent Apple computers.
I love my Ecoflow River2 Pro and would not hesitate to buy another EF product. Definitely considering this one for our emergency backup with solar and to run my Ham radio rig - so glad EF improved the noise specs.
Have a great day!!!😊
Katy
They definitely made some decent improvements :) LFP is a great change!
Hi Katy, I'm sure you will love to use our new DALTA2MAX, and it will serve your purpose
How long does this run at maximum capacity?
What's the recharge time?
Thanks, dude.
Thanks for the video. Partially based on a previous video of yours, I’ve set up the Victron 12/24 to recharge the Delta 2 Max (on order) in our Gladiator build which will power our setup. You mention in this video you don’t love the Delta 2 Max for camping/over landing. Can you elaborate? We had a travel trailer and can’t think of anything we can’t power with Delta 2 Max in our Gladiator build. Also have the Glacier fridge with 2 barriers and a River Pro. Feel it’s been a cheaper route with more benefits than doing a dual battery system with a Redarc controller that’s stuck inside Jeep.
The only reason is that the DC output is limited to 130 watts so powering larger DC loads won't work well. If that's not a worry than this will work great since the AC inverter is plenty powerful to run AC stuff.
I'm thinking of getting this since you can get it for $999 on Black Friday. Have you checked out the car alternator charger??
It's a great price for black friday! The alternator charger is pretty slick. I don't have a video on it yet.
I still like the Bluetti better. The build quality is better...the batteries hold more charge cycles..overall you're better off getting a Bluetti.
I have the Delta 2 with extra LifPo battery, will that extra battery work on the Delta 2 Max?
While it may not be officially supported, it should still connect and charge / discharge. My friend connected his older Delta Max (NMC) battery to it and it worked.
Could we connect the Delta Pro Smart Extra Battery to the Delta 2 Max? It sure would give you a lot of storage.
Would be interested in brownout tests of power stations using a Variac ( Variable Autotransformer ). I don’t think I’ve seen that on any other channel. Saw a report on one EPS review that the power station shutdown for the user instead of switching to battery in a brownout condition.
Are you saying that if grid power goes down this unit can simply be plugged into any wall outlet and pass that power through all the lines and power my refrigerator, television, lamps? So i wouldnt need to get an electrician to install a generator plug into my breaker panel?
It only powers the appliances connected to the inverter outlets on the back. The 120v outlets need to be connected to your devices for them to be powered.
Great review from your premier power station review site. Bought the Bluetti EB55 after viewing your review a while back. Now looking at the smaller Ecoflow Delta 2. Is it compatible with the new Delta 2 Max 2 KWh extra battery?
They should be compatible, it's pretty new so I don't have all the answers yet.
Thanks, yeah common architecture so should work or require a firmware update.
Great idea Eco flow delta pro ultra test it out on TH-cam videos 👍 please show
I'm planning to test the EF Delta Ultra!
Great video! Really looking forward to more info on hacking our own 'expansion' batteries. Question: With the Delta2Max's dual 60V 15A solar inputs, did it really limit each to 500W despite that it theoretically could handle 900W (60x15) and voltage is usually the limiting variable, or was that just a coincidence with your panel & sun setup?
Here's the video using expansion batteries:
th-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/w-d-xo.html
Each charge controller is limited to 500 watts, even if you have it maxed out at 60v and 15 amps.
Definitely want to see a video using the 48V Server Rack battery as a DIY expansion battery. Great video!
I'll be doing a video soon on the topic
@@JasonoidDid you eventually do the video. This will really be an interesting concept😢😢
Yep th-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/w-d-xo.html
My eco 2 with smart battery runs my fullsize top loading washing machine for numerous loads , but when tried it with my electric clothes dryer it stopped ' "overload".
Will the ecoflow delta 2 max run my electric clothes dryer with added smart battery? Both are whirlpool. I'm elderly so the bigger batteries are not an option.
Thank you
I live in Canada and just bought the Delta 2 Max with the 200w solar panel. I like the reveiw that you did and I think I will be very happy with it.
The only question that I did find an answer to is How long of a cable can I use between the Delta and the solar panel ? And what type 10 or 12AWG?
I did a whole video on voltage drop, you might find it helpful:
th-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/w-d-xo.html
I'd recommend using 10awg wire for anything over 30 feet. 12awg wire for a run less than that.
I have a Renogy 200 watt solar suitcase and run up to 160 feet of 8AWG cables. I have seen the following currents:
40 feet: 11.2 A
80 feet: 10.2 A
160 feet: 9.2 A
Yeah, deep in the shade :)
@@mt.sylvania9218 yeah that's a long run for a solar panel. If you ever get two panels for more power, running them in series will really help with the voltage drop (as long as your power station can handle panels in series)
Hi Jason, Did you try the UPS after the update? For me, with portable computer she seem to work well now.
Haven't done that testing yet, too busy right now. I'll do a video on it later though 👍
Thanks for your video! I enjoy all of your content, so any future ideas you have will no doubt be excellent. Like you, I am frustrated by the lack of options out there when it comes to DC outputs limited to 10 amps. I have a Bluetti AC200P, and at this point its best feature is its 25 amp DC port. I'm not really sure why this hasn't become an industry standard yet. Perhaps you can shed some light on that. 🤔
I wish there was a standard on DC output but there isn't. I think an Anderson Powerpole or XT90 30 amp output would be legit! I wish these companies did a little more market research beforehand so they could know what people are looking for. All is takes is a couple questions to get a hold of some decent reviewers and they could have this information. With a higher DC output and a slightly faster UPS mode, this would be my go to recommendation for everyone! haha
Great 👍 solar generator
What power station can a diesel heater then?
Hi Great review, and good ideas for future videos.👍🐝🌞
EG4! Please make a video with the Sever rack battery as a expansion!
Sounds good! 👍😁
+1. With the limited DC output, using a 48V external battery makes a lot of sense. Especially with more IT and other equipment running on 48V now.
TH-camr jehugarcia already did this with a server rack 20k setup as well a bunch of recycled scooter batteries as another setup. To show a plug & play turn key setup & diy setup using recycled batteries. But it was using Delta Pro's being charged by the server racks.Same concept may work for the Delta Max.
@@1ENDUSER yeah, usually trying to sell his in stock batteries. He does tend to leave out some details to make it beginner friendly. Great content on his channel. I got into his stuff awhile back when he converted the electric VW van.
Surprised to see you pulled 138W from the barrel plug 😳 Surprised but happy.
Owners manual says 3A or 38W max. Perhaps it’s a misprint and should be 138W as in your testing? 🤔
Nah, it's not a misprint, these 5521 ports are not designed for high power draw over time, they will get fairly warm above 65 watts. It's perfect to run a 12v fridge since they are more secure, but I wouldn't go much higher than that wattage off the 5521 ports.
Using the 19v voc panels in a 3s configuration would not be recommended for a long term setup. Panels are rated at 70f typically and will produce more voltage as they get colder. Your 3s array would go well above 60v in colder temps.
Yeah. I thought that would be an issue so I tested them through the winter many times, they never went over 19v surprisingly. I had them in this same config on my AC500 batteries and my Delta 2 (both have 60v cuttoffs). They usually sit around 55 volts to 57 volts VOC.
Why would you think two Ecco delta 2 max units should not be connected for longer time back up. I Would rather have 2 main units versus one plus an accessory expansion battery….for better individual..separate usage…….but also I like idea of a total 4 k linked storage capacity. Thoughts on risks? Thanks
They aren't designed to be connected together like the expansion batteries. You could definitely use one main unit, once it's near empty, plug in the second unit. The first unit could start charging back up while the second one is in use.
The one thing I cared most about was not properly demonstrated because you connected another battery to it. I’d like to know how long it would last with say a fridge, a fan, some lightbulbs and a TV plugged into it (in case of a power outage)
Take that runtime and divide it in half, that's how long you'll get. The extra battery doubles the runtime exactly.
@@Jasonoid ok. But how about a full on test like that? Real world where there’s a power outage type situation! (With just the one battery like most people would have) until it runs out.
@@raphymartinez I don't have a Delta Pro to test with unfortunately.
New firmware update today claims: "Shortened UPS time from 30 ms to less than 20 ms." plus "Optimized energy management". Can you update your Delta 2 MAX and test the PC again?
That video will be this Friday, you won't want to miss it (I'm also testing 5 other models UPS mode to see how they compare).
If you use a 12V DC-DC 20A charger will it charge at 20A? Or do you need to go with 12-24V boost converter? Similarly, if you put the metal pin cable on 12V car, how much will it pull from car circuit?
Really great review, like it 👍.
Can you please compare the fan noise to the normal new Delta 2, is it comparable? Many thanks.
The Delta 2 fans are definitely louder than the Delta 2 Max fans. The new Max fans are very quiet. I have videos of both being tested so if you watch both videos in two different tabs at the same time you can hear how they sound.
@@Jasonoid
Many thanks!
excellent review. I am working on home emergency backup. I have sub panel in place only 120v, I just need outlet, will a regular outlet work or do I need special outlet to plug in the Delta 2 MAX. I would also be using the automation feature to shift the charging to a lower rate time. hope you could provide more info on this feature in the future. Thanks again for excellent review.
You'll need to install a 'transfer switch' or a main panel 'interlock' in order to safely run your home circuits off a power station. I have installed a couple of them, they are simple to install if you follow the detailed install instructions. Here's a video of my first one I installed:
th-cam.com/video/eiWnqukg9mM/w-d-xo.html
I now have a 10 circuit model I installed that supports 240v input.
Understood. The sub panel has its own circuit breakers for each line. Does that not count as a transfer switch. I looked at video, very informative. I believe I have a similar setup, I believe I just need to add a three pronged plug then add delta 2 max. I am thinking of adding EG4 battery because it adds more wattage than ECOFLOW expansion battery. Thank you for your response and videos are very informative. My main goal is to transfer electric loads to a cheaper rates at night. The ECOFLOW is offering that possibility, trouble finding info or videos on that function which I think will grow in use in the future. Thank you very much.
@@salsero23 a transfer switch disconnects line power and uses the power station as the power source. You'll need a transfer switch to get the same effect.
I purchased the Delta 2 MAX. All is working great. I am not having success with the automation portion of the app. I cannot seem to find much on its use. working with ECOFLOW now with this issue. This may be the subject for a short video in the future.
Does it have Bluetooth yet? You mentioned Bluetooth, but I want to verify, as my Delta Max doesn't. My direct connect always times out. I use it in my overland rig with an upgraded alternator and a properly-installed 2000w inverter. But the app always times out and I have to reach down into the Ecoflow compartment to reconnect via wifi.
Just got mine today, at first it asked for wifi so I turned on my phone’s hotspot and connected it tried to update but it didn’t do so it disconnected from wifi and now I’m just using it with Bluetooth.
Hi. Thank you for your review. Could you please clarify if it is possible to connect Delta 2 Max to Delta 2 via the corresponding charging port for an Extra Battery and vice versa? I have Delta 2 and would like to increase the capacity, however, I do not wish to buy an Extra Battery for 2kWh since it has no functionality and the price difference is also small. I am from Ukraine and the difference in price is less than $400 (about $2050 for Delta 2 Max and about $1650 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery) if you buy not from the official Ecoflow store since the price for Europe is much higher (about EUR 2100 for Delta 2 Max - it is about $2300, and EUR1500 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery - it is about $1600). For US the difference is about $350 ($1749 for Delta 2 Max and about $1399 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery). If I pay this difference I will receive the "stand-alone" device which I can use anywhere. Also, could you please let me know, if it is possible to connect the Delta 2 Max Extra Battery ordered from US to my European Delta 2 since there is a difference in voltages: 220V vs 110V? As I understand, the Extra Battery charges the "main battery" with its "own" voltage from 48v to 60v (and vise versa), and on Black Friday, for example, I may get a good discount from Ecoflow US official store or Amazon))). In such a case Delta 2 Max Extra Battery is worth the money.
Thank you in advance.
The power stations cannot connect to eachother directly, they can only connect to their smart batteries. I'd recommend using a standalone battery to extend the runtime of your power station. I have a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/w-d-xo.html
Hey Jasonoid! Thanks for all your work on these reviews. I'm interested in a Solar Power Station for use as a music PA system - so inverter noise is VERY important. This review shows the Delta2 max with around 1538mV of noise and seems nice and quiet through the amp, whereas your Pecron E600LFP shows slightly more 1546mV and makes an audible buzz. Is this due to the amp settings? Would you say the Delta2 max is noticeabley quieter noise wise than the Pecron E600?
There are many different types of 'noise' that the inverter could be putting out. The dirty electricity meter measures EMI noise, there could also be RFI noise. The amp settings are the same on all my videos so if you don't hear noise on the amp test you should be okay.
What does red cross symbol on Delta 2 Max display mean? Is it kind of issues?
Preproduction model.
Like to see the comparison video. Question…lets just say you have no smart device. No BT or WiFi. Can you still make any of those changes to through the screen on the Delta 2 max? Love that the fans are so much quieter now. This is just out of my fixed budget so i interested in the comparison video. Keep up the good work. Thanks for all you do!
The settings are only controllable via the smart app. If you didn't have a smart phone you could always have a friend / family member use their phone to set the settings up as you like.
@@Jasonoid yes you could. I’m thinking more if like its the worst situation you can get into. No nothing!
Hi, did you see the last software update. the UPS past from 30ms to 20ms...
I think It change the note in your google sheet.
I plan to test that in an upcoming video. I will update my grading sheet if so.
Hi,
Does the Delta 2 Max unit has kind self heating batterie or temperature control inside for the cold time?
And do we need to make full charged/Discharged in first time?
Thanks
What do you think would be the best inexpensive off grid 12v battery to start with, drop in type v server rack for indoor install that can easily be exapnded upon and initially run 12v appliances?
You'd want a 12v LFP battery that accepts series connections so you can expand in the future to higher voltage and has low temp charging protection. This Dr. Prepare battery is an excellent value and is priced really good right now ($300 or so): th-cam.com/video/dd1W8_tdl2c/w-d-xo.html
Hello again from Spain, Jasón, tengo una pregunta porfavor, la batería adicional Delta2(1kw) es compatible, se puede usar junto con la Ecoflow Delta2 Max(2kw) ? Thanks again!
I don't think they are officially compatible between models like that.
Can you use this for an off grid power station
If your appliances use 120 volts, they will plug into the 2400 watt inverter. This will power a full sized fridge, microwaves, and other appliances. It will not power 240v appliances like electric stoves or electric dryers / heaters.
Question about output of barrel plugs. I thought the max was 3 amps... so 3x12.5volts - is about 37ish watts. Did you say you were able to pull 137 watts from the barrel port?? how can this be? I can understand maybe getting that from the 12v cig socket but don't understand that wattage come from barrel port. Did I misunderstand you? thank you.
In my testing the max wattage allowed from the any of the DC ports is 137 watts. You can get that from the cigarette port or the barrel ports. The recommended max power is 3 amps but it doesn't stop there.
@@Jasonoid very interesting! thank you
@Jasonoid, ecoflow recently sent out a FW update for D2M stating that the EPS function now has a 20mS switchover, any plans to test/update?
Where was that posted? I can check to see if there's a new firmware update available.
I updated my DM2, I'll give it a test, maybe a video if it performs well.
can you dumb this down for me. I have a 120w deep freezer chest and a 110w refrigerator both drawing 1.1a. how log will this run my equipment
If the compressors ran 24/7 for both your fridge and freezer, they would last around 8 hours. Usually the compressors don't run all the time (kinda depends on ambient temps). I am guessing you'd get close to 15 to 20 hours runtime without charging.
So a Delta max add on battery can work on a delta 2 max unit, but what about the other way around, they will make a Delta 2 max add on battery, would this work with the Delta Max?
I think it goes either way, I don't have both to test with but Todd Parker (he's got a youtube channel with a review) tested the old Max batteries and they worked.
@@Jasonoid Will definitely check this channel out to find out, Thanks, I did see some sales of the Delta 2 Smart battery which have a Note under that says 'For the Delta 2 models only' - Im hoping this is just due to a lack of information. To me it feels like it might not work due to the different battery chemistries ,but i really hope it does.Otherwise it causes upgrade issues for many with Gen 1 products. Why would one pay the same price to get a 800cycle battery instead of a 3000cycle one. But ill check the video out,maybe he clarifies this more
could you charge this delta 2 max using a battery like the powerqueen 12.8v 200Ah with 2 xt60i cables connected going to both charge ports at the same time? that would charge it at like 400 watts input id guess.
12v batteries charge the power station at 100w, so 100w per port, 200w total. You need to boost the voltage to 24v or 36v to get faster charging speeds.
Is there a problem with your test unit? I see a red error indicator on the screen.
It's to show it's a review unit. It's a permanent birthmark lol...
Makes you think why they didn't do it in the first place. Just get us to keep buying stuff every few years. & These units need more solar input
Black Friday got Delta Max 2 for 899.
2024
Wow, what timing. I was considering getting the Delta 2 this weekend. Now I need to reconsider. I have been waiting for this to be released but had no idea when it would come out. I love EcoFlow products and this seems to be a solid option. However, I am leaning towards the Delta 2 because of the better Wh/$ that I can get it for. I wish they would have added a few more new features, such as a better connection method for the extra batteries. Maybe external batteries that can work independently like Bluetti. Tough choices. Thanks for a great video.
Bluetti win with battery but this have wi-fi and better support there is no perfect power station
The smaller Delta 2 unit is a great portable unit. I use it around the yard all the time to power my tools. I love that it takes in decent solar and has the large 1800 watt inverter. The Delta 2 Max is a bit larger. If you got room for the bigger unit I guess you can't go wrong! I think both of them would work well.
@@Jasonoid Thank you. I am starting to worry that I am becoming a power station collector. I keep justifying it by saying I don’t have enough power to run the whole house during a long power outage yet. Haha.
@@Jasonoid My thought exactly! I decided portability and looked at how much power I would need to run tools like a pole saw to trim trees. Delta 2 is the perfect size for portability that you can carry with one hand and at decent price. I can even run most items in my house during a power outage. Even my oil furnace! What we really need is more battery storage for times when the grid goes down. I purchased my Delta 2 with the Delta max battery for that reason and I also have three 12.8V 100AH Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries wired in series that I connect to the solar input which allows me to run the Delta 2 much longer. Then I recharge the following day with my gas generator if the power is down for a long time. Easily gets me through a night of use. Cant run a dryer but that can wait for the grid to come alive again. I just wanted enough power to make it through a full 10+ hours running everything but the 240V appliances.
I might have considered the Delta 2 Max but I still think the smaller Delta 2 is the best option for me. Someone with more home power demands will probably benefit more with the Delta 2 max or the Delta Pro. I think the Delta 2 is a better bang for the buck. I use it way more because its so small and light with plenty of power to satisfy my needs.
2X the price of the delta2
😎thanks Jason 🌷
Quick question, were you able to connect both solar input ports to your EG4 battery in parallel at the same time?
Yes, I was able to charge at 1000 watts with both charge controllers connected to the EG4 battery.
Hola, otra vez Jason, desde España, gracias por tu labor, y por tus vídeos! Una pregunta porfavor, cómo puedo alargar la vida útil de una batería de extensión Delta Max? Quiero duplicar los ciclos de carga, de 800 a ..1600. Muy importante, uso una Delta2 Max(2048w LFP)con una batería de extension Delta Max (2016w solo800ciclos) Es posible? Que me aconsejas? Cuanto se pueden alargar los ciclos de carga, y como! Gracias, y como siempre estupendo trabajo!!
Cargar y descargar lentamente es una forma de prolongar la vida útil de la batería. Mantener el porcentaje de batería entre el 20% y el 95% también prolongará la vida útil de la batería.
I have a technical question, that none of the review videos seem to address about these. I'm not interested in running a fridge or a whole house full of appliances. I simply have 1125 watts of 5V Dream color changing LEDs, about 25 strips 1 to 2 meters in length, each meter has 144 LEDs. Each 1 meter length is 45W. My question is, how long will this 1000Wh power station be able to operate them? According to my calculator 45 x 25 = 1125. By that math this new and improved power station could only operate these lights for less than an hour. Is that correct?
What's twisting my head in a knot is, that one 45W strip can be powered by a single 20,000mAh 74Wh Li-ion rechargeable power bank via a 5v 2A usb port for 1 hour and only drain about 25% of its available power. Am I missing something here? It seems as though buying 25 individual power banks will cost less and offer me far more illumination time than this power station.
Sounds like the 'rated power' is way higher than what the LED lights actually pull. Do you have a way to see the actually wattage of the LEDs as they are running? If you are plugging these LED lights into a '5v 2 amp' USB port is only rated for 10 watts, so technically you can't be pulling more than 10 watts for the entire string (especially if you aren't injecting power down the line).
If you are running the lights off a small USB power bank and getting about 4 hours of runtime, you'd probably get around 100 hours or 200 hours of runtime on a large power station like this. You could probably go with a smaller more affordable option and get great results.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your quick reply to my comment. I hope you're correct, suggesting that I could use something smaller and more affordable. The thought of having to carry a 50+ pound power station for this purpose wasn't appealing.
I'm afraid that as far as technical understanding to determine what the light strip's draw might be is beyond me. However, I may be able to get that determination answered via some help. I'll head over to where I can seek that answer now and hope they can offer me some understanding.
@@regmiles Your 5v usb port wouldn't function on more than 10 watts of power. So those LED lights can't be drawing much power. Good luck on finding out more about your power draw. You should be fine on even a 500wh power station.
@jasonoid in your expert opinion what do think the best portable power station for overlanding for at least a week would be? I had my mind made up about this throughout the video and for you to say that it wouldn't be the best for overlanding was disappointing. Any advise? I typically have a fridge heaters and appliances for cooking charging devices and other peoples stuff.
If you are only powering a DC fridge on the 12v sockets it will work great. If you want to power more 12v devices at the same time, that's where it won't handle the output. It all depends on what you are trying to power. The AC inverter works really well on this model so if you were using the inverter for your appliances it will work just fine.
Things that won't work:
- diesel heaters
- 12v aircompressors
- Anything DC that pulls over 140 watts
@@Jasonoid well that helps a lot. Thanks! Ill look into a power station that can power multiple 12v devices.
can you charge via solar and AC at the same time giving priority to solar?
Check out the time stamps and go to the charging section. I tested dual charging with AC and solar and it worked just fine. The app also has settings priority for solar.
@@Jasonoid nice thanks!
i like my delta pro but i wish it could take a lot more solar and i wish it would charge from the wall while it runs an air conditioner instead of kicking on and off
I've heard good things about the Delta Pro but I don't have one personally. It was the first large unit that they made so I think they will plan to update it eventually. Hopefully with more solar input and other improvements!
The Delta 2 as a game changer and is still the best sub $1000 you can buy. While the Delta 2 Max is a definite improvement over the old Delta Max, and is a great power station to get if you are new to the 2KW+ market, i couldn't see it replacing a Bluetti AC200 MAX, which does have 30A 12 VDC outlet and can use the B300 batteries, which also fit the AC300 and AC500. It would have been nice to see the Delta 2 Max being able to use the Delta Pro batteries in addition to the 2KW batteries made for it. But, we can't have it all. Eco Flow is definitely better at customer support. Also, does the Delta 2 Max work with Eco Flow's dual fuel generator like the Delta Pro does? That would be a huge selling point. Thanks for the great review!
Yes, it is compatible with all Ecoflow devices, including the dual fuel genny and the Wave 2 portable ac.
Now, if the can reduce the fan noise on the Delta pro...
I'm sure that's the plan for the gen 2 device
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
I showed that pretty well in the video.
.!!! hope the lfp batteries come in good price finaly max lfp packs
Dropped mine from the chair to the tile floor. What could have been done to it? fan seems louder or i just didnt notice before. ?
It might be just fine. The batteries are pretty secured inside the power station. If nothing sounds loose inside than just test it out and see how it goes!