IT: Chapter Two (2019) | First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | PUT A CORK IN IT!
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- Time For One Last Fight Against Pennywise! The Mrs can't wait to meet the older Losers in this modern-day retelling of Stephen King's Classic, It: Chapter Two (2019). Here's her reaction to her first time watching.
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The little thing with Eddie was him marrying a woman that looks just like his mom. So much that they cast the same woman to play both characters. Great touch
James Ransome is perfectly cast as the older Eddie, he could be that kids dad the resemblance is uncanny.
Yea, they all cast the adults really well, but the Eddie casting is uncanny. Might be the best child to adult matching I've seen in any film.
Yes. I think the casting in general was rather inspired. I say that as a fan of the novel and the earlier TV adaptation. Well, wait, I am also a fan of the new adaptation, too, but I won’t pretend they’re masterpieces. But I love the ideas and characters so much, I can’t get enough. I wish they would adapt _It_ as a series. The novel is bursting with terrifying monsters. Hell, even the shark from _Jaws_ surfaces to menace a kid in a river in Derry.
The Wire, Ziggy
@@moonlitegram who would've known in 2017, that Eddie would be Ziggy from The Wire Season 2.
@@LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto i didn't watch that show
The opening scene with the gay man being attacked and thrown over the bridge is based on a real event that happened in Bangor, ME just before King wrote the book. Some good old boys beat up a gay teenager and threw him over a bridge and killed him. King was appalled and worked it into the novel. They still commemorate the kid in Bangor to this day.
Actually it didn’t happen like that.. king is a liberal cry baby, who is full of crap.. there was a fight between a gay and a normal man, because the gay tried to kiss him, and it ended up in one falling over the side, while fighting..
That's tragic
@@Oi325 it's even more tragic that it still happens all the time
Yeah he’s name was Charlie Howard
@@bluewonk8910 No it doesn’t. At least not in western countries. You cant even sneeze at a gay person without being cancelled, fired, and having death threats against you. There has never been a more tolerant society to gay people ever.
I thought the new Pennywise nailed the whole aspect of IT being an animal pretending to be a clown. Specifically in the Georgie scene when he suddenly starts drooling, like the mask briefly falls off because he’s so hungry. Perfect
Of course what's the point of the whole Clown thing when it's so freaking creepy? Pointless.
But better not start with how any of that would make sense.
Why isn't it eating those kids as all the others and instead scares them over and over again to the point, that they realize, that this is its main power?
Of course in the book there is some talk about some magical turtle god or whatever giving protection, but why then go for these kids and not just all the others it obviously can easily eat?
The TV series IT just felt quite a lot smarter. This one is scarier, sure, but also incredible dumb.
@@miriamweller812 Don't they explain in more detail in the book that IT enjoys scarring his victims because it makes them taste better? Like playing with his food/seasoning the meat or something like that? It was briefly touched on in this movie but I believe the book goes into more detail.
As to why doesn't IT just eat the main kids as quickly as Georgie...I always just kinda assume he ate Georgie quickly because he just woke up from his long sleep cycle and was extra hungry. They don't say that in the movie and that's a fair point to criticize, but it's a good enough rationale for me as I watch it.
I know a lot of people don't think the actor who plays older Ben looks like the child version but if you look at their eyes and the areas around there, they look a lot alike
They have the same nose too!
I agree, the eyes are definitely similar. It's just a bit of a shame that the adult actor was not very memorable or famous as in the 1990 version. Especially as Ben was 1 of my favorite underdog heroes
No they don't...Amy Addams does look like Beaverley more than Jessica Chastain, but Chastain seems to be the go-to Redhead actress these days. I can't watch horror movies with my girl cuz she's too chickens**t...she scared of jumpscares and ugly faced monsters. Me, I love horror movies. Watching It Chapter two...I had the sudden urge to buy Old Spice bodywash for some strange reason. IDK why though.
It’s the expressions they use like the way they smile and yeah the eyes makes it so real
The whole point was to make Ben look like he got his life together, hence the weight loss, and.. well, everything else kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?
I do prefer IT chapter one, but I do like two. I honestly just think the casting is so great in number two. It's probably the best casting I've seen in a movie in a long time, it's crazy how much they kind of look like the kids when they legit grew up.
I agree 100%. The casting for Chapter 2 is insane on how perfect it is. Like 2 of the actors literally look like the child part
they certainly had to cast a lot of people at once for a whole group of friends it would honest be a mammoth undertaking no matter what.
It would've been perfect if it was Amy Adams though.
@@umairrashid9345 They probably did try to get her. Shame they couldn’t.
The "hated the ending" gag was funny bc King was always criticized for not being able to write a good ending to his books.
I was totally OK with the ending for Under the Dome, but many were not.......at all.
"It"went off the rails because King was high off his ass while writing stuff like the Turtle(I think.)
I to this day believe half his books had an uncredited ghost writer, the guy is the most overrated writer of all time IMO.
@@phousefilmsnot at all. The turtle is a main character entity in is Dark tower series. Plus by the end of the book the turtle was dead.
@@markg1727what? You sound ridiculous. He has like 50 books of course not all of them are going to hit. But I’m sure you would know what’s overrated and what not though .
Bill Hader as Richie was by far my favorite along with Ben and Eddie. Bill and Finn as Richie won me over in both movies and are so underrated.
"If he feeds off them then why doesn't he consume everything?"
Because what Pennywise really feeds on is their fear. Their fear is literally what fuels him.
Nope. Wrong. The fear "salts the meat".
No. It just prefers to eat scared people and it's really sadistic about it, sometimes dismembering children and adults without eating them.
It's simply a plot hole, that IT doesn't consume the protagonists as it does to all other victims.
And no, the explanation with the magical turtle god or whatever is none, because if it realizes, that those kids got protection, why should it go after them in the first place?
@@youtubecommenter2527read the books, he rarely if ever eats the whole body, he eats fear. He bites parts off people because being eaten alive is one of the biggest fears for any person.
Cool lil fact. All the kid actors from chapter 1 got to help pick who played them in chapter 2.
In the book Dreamcatcher, the characters of that book eventually go to the Derry standpipe, where the losers club had a monument commissioned to memorialize Pennywise's victims.
Scrawled across it in red were the words "Pennywise lives!"
King saying he didn't like the ending was classic, considering that is the biggest complaint a lot of people have with King books.
I actually LOVED the casting. The kids and adults versions look very alike to each other
Not Beverly tho
Except for Jessica Chastain, James McAvoy is kind of ok
Amy Adams should play Beverly.
Agree. And I like Jessica Chastain here over Amy Adams. Sure the looks aren't quite as close as they would be with Adams, but I think Chastain can hit the darker tones with her performance better than Adams. I mean I liked Adams in Arrival, so its not like she's incapable of heavier roles. But even in that, I don't think she hits the same emotional colors that Chastain can hit with her performances. And I'll take that over the more exact appearance matching any day.
But on that note, the casting for Eddie was 100% perfect. Whatever that kid actually grows up to be like just isn't going to feel or look right if he doesn't turn out exactly like James Ransone. The appearance is uncanny and their attitudes and performance even match up perfectly.
@@moonlitegram Chastain is a bad actress
There was no kids at the tunnel because remember IT just woke up. He has 3 years to eat kids but it’s just been not enough time because they are there trying to stop him. Haha. I love your guys reactions always. When you jumped that first jump scare. Haha oh with the balloon. Haha
SHE WAS RIGHT. Old Ben from the 1990’s was in the business meeting! Oh you got it. Well I’m still hitting send! 🤷🏾♂️😂👍🏾
I was worried when I heard they were remaking IT but I genuinely love both versions as each has their own merit. The new one is much better in many ways but Tim Curry is the embodiment of a special talent and charisma that I can't help but always appreciate deeply. Thanks again for the great videos!
I love Tim Curry (and honestly his performance is a lot closer to the novel) but I think Bill pretty much nails it. His performance actually feels like an extradimensional creature stuck in this weird body it doesn’t quite understand. Really great performance IMO, despite the overabundance of jump scares
Lazy eye fun fact: Daniel Radcliffe can do a lazy eye too, and did it the entire time during Swiss Army Man (great movie, highly recommend)
the two guys at the carnival where gets thrown off the bridge is actually, sadly, based off a real story that took place up near where King lived
Bangor Maine, where I grew up. It was gay man charlie Hooward. The 3 punks who did it, got a hand slap.
@@barryholyoke5169 I heard the story when I was at U.M.O.
The introduction of Pennywise in this movie is so much better than in the first. He comes of as more approachable and friendly here as in chapter 1 he's creepy straight off the bat.
The attack in the beginning of the move really happened in Stephen King's hometown. He made sure to add it into his story.
The scene with bullies and the gay guys is based on a true fact. The event shocked King
The second half of this book is so insane, I thought they would whiff on it again. This actually gets much closer than I ever expected to King’s book.
Yeah, I'm glad they stuck the landing in this movie but Mrs. Movies question of 'I wonder what the book is like' made me go 😬
I agree. And I’m in the minority that the adult stuff is the book is way more interesting than the kids’ stuff.
Maybe it’s because I hate kids lol
Yeah but I wish they hadn’t lessened Henry and Tom’s roles so much from how they were in the book, especially Tom’s. At least Henry got to do some crazy shit in this movie
Regarding characters not having much chemistry, I felt it was a creative decision. Aren’t they kind of strangers, minus a few memories at the beginning? Wouldn’t their chemistry build together and not feel strong until the 3rd act?
+1 to that. After so many years people changes a lot (even if they don't notice that in their daily routine). They aren't the same people they've just to be 20 or 30 years ago. Why would the adult heroes of this movie be different?
To me it's rather something that I've noticed in modern movies, actors or characters not having chemistry. I don't know why that is. Maybe modern filmmakers somehow are afraid to fall into the sentimentality or something. So they cannot get too close. But the ones from the original really felt like long lost friends. But I noticed that these actors in real life were real great loveable people like Anette O'Toole, John Ritter, Richard Thomas, etc...whereas Jessica Chastain is someone rather cold in real life.
Stephen King is notorious for ending his books in a disappointing manner, hence the quip in the store but this book and The Stand are amazing. In IT, the character development and story line was just incredible and totally worth a read. I revisit it every year. Alot of stuff was skipped from the book but I understand why....
This book has the greatest last paragraph he's ever written.
Correction: Stephen King is notorious for some people saying his books end in a disappointing manner. Personally, I'd say those people are just wrong.
Thank God they skipped the sex scene
@@Regu269 yeah, that would've been difficult to film and watch..😳😳
He even said that Frank Darabont's ending to The Mist is superior. People don't talk about him enough bc he's amazing. Shawshank, The Green Mile, The Mist...
I’m a surgical first assist and I’m usually working ridiculous hours during the week but I honestly love coming home on a Friday getting the pop corn ready and watching great movies with u guys , thanks for what u do !
Sorry to jump in on this comment but thank you for what YOU do! You are doing an incredible job and I hope you receive the recognition and thanks you deserve, alongside the surgeons! ♡
@@wayasaunooke3424 that was incredibly nice of you to say it means the world to us healthcare workers , it’s people like you that make our job great 😊
Upon release, I didn’t like chapter 2 as much as 1. I thought it was good, just not exceptional like I felt 1 was. But after a few years now, I think both chapters complete each other and make each other even better.
Watching the Mrs. react to It and seeing some of the highlights makes me want to watch it again. But then I remember how long part 2 actually is and I'm like well this reaction video is enough lol.
Agreed. If you rewatch back to back as one huge film they fit together much better.
“Jessica Chastain…that’ll do” is exactly what I said when I saw she was cast in this. I too think Sophia Lillis looks much more like Amy Adams.
It definitely should have been Amy adams. But I guess Jessica Chastain has to play every redhead in Hollywood
She does look more like Amy Adams, but it’s hard to imagine her in this role imo
Isla Fisher would have been a good choice too.
Sophia Lillis actually did wind up playing a young Amy Adams in Sharp Objects, a really good show on HBO
Well, Sophia Lillis requested Jessica Chastain play older Beverly. I seem to remember the kids got to ask for the actor to play their older selves.
So fun fact Bill Skarsgård eye's are not CGI he really makes them move like that.
This one all but cut Bill's wife out of it. The 1990 version's ending (with Bill's wife being catatonic and him curing her by riding his bike until she woke up) was the way the book ended. The ritual of Chud was in the book, but was introduced when they were kids. The vision quest detailed It's origins and introduced It's antithesis, (I forget his name) a giant turtle that created the universe.
Yeah, the turtle. That was the cocaine writing the book at that point, not King himself. Personally I'd like to see him re-write the book, cutting out the turtle b.s. and making Pennywise a Tommyknocker which is what he is in my mind.
I would definitely approve of more screen time for Jess Weixler. She was amazing in the movie Teeth.
Maturin.
@@charlesballard5251 maybe so, but Maturin the turtle has been around long before King ever wrote about him.
@@banditoheat Thank you. That was driving me crazy. I was about to Google it
Stephen Kings cameo in this is strong
Like Stan Lee cameo
Bill Skaarsgard is now in a class of two when it comes to "creepy eye acting". The other being Pruitt Taylor Vince who has a medical condition that results in involuntary horizontal rapid eye movement (nystagmus). Vince has made quite the career as a character actor in roles that are enhanced by that.
I have nystagmus, but very minor. The episodes only last for a few seconds for me. But is quite unnerving and makes me feel dizzy. Def not recommended!
I remember when this movie first came out in theaters, people hated the opening, complaining how the assault on the gay couple had no connection to the rest of the movie. Meanwhile it's obviously meant to tie into Richie's character arc, showing why he was afraid to be honest with others as well as himself about his own sexuality. The rampant homophobia in Derry is just another symptom of IT's curse on the town.
Correct. Also the bridge scene was literally chapter two of the book.
Also, the fricking thing happened in the book. People are just so entitled these days
Obviously based on what? Ritchie didn't know or meet the guy from the beginning of the movie nor did he have a reaction to his attack. It was poor storytelling
Bill's token is definitely 'Silver' the bike. Plays a larger roll in the books' young scenes than the movie.
I would recommend reading the book. Naturally it goes into more detail than the movie or Miniseries could show, but you learn more about the loser’s relationship, more about the town folks and their encounters with IT (not all the adults are under it’s influence) and the gruesome deaths of IT’s victims.
One of my personal favourite aspects of the book is the feud between Butch Bower’s (Henry’s father) and William Hanlon (Mike’s father).
I watched the TV show first and then got the book as a gift but I didn't go far in it cause it was this gigantic volume and had such a short attention span as a kid and it seemed like such a daunting task to read it. lol So I gave it away to a family friend. But I always intended to go back and revisit it. It must be a great book, I Imagine.
I like the part where Bev watches Bowers and Hockstetter in the junkyard. Then it goes into the fact that Patrick killed his baby brother and likes killing cats and keeping their bodies.
Yes, the book’s massively detailed histories of the town, the relationship between Mike and his dad were great. That’s one change I didn’t like in the movies, where they just killed off his parents in a fire. Mike, because he stayed in Derry after everyone else left, got so much information than what was presented onscreen, Will was a very interesting side character who had to deal with the Blackfire and the KKK and he even saw IT.
I think the only way a TV/movie adaptation could do justice to the book is to have a limited series. There is just so much more detail and side stories to be explored. I love the mini series and I really like these two movies but after reading the novel, they both leave me hungry for more.
@@rallyking13 They could easily do full on series with many seasons about IT. Look at how popular Stranger Things was popular with kids involved in monsters/aliens.
You could *really* feel the almost 3 hour run time with this movie. The first half was actually pretty good, but the second half just felt like it drug on. But I’ll admit that the casting for the adults were perfect. (In terms of looking like adult versions of the losers from the 2017 film) James Ransone and Bill Hader’s chemistry was amazing and hilarious. Just like young Eddie and Richie’s.
Was that RPG game stuff with "find our magical items", that dragged it so much.
It also made IT look even more stupid, because what's with all the scare stuff?
In the series it felt more like IT was playing with them, but since the movie is solely focussing on making it look disgusting and scary, this doesn't work.
HISHE made a fine joke in one of their 'evil bar" episodes, where all the loser antagonists sit around, Palpatin being the bartender.
He tells IT, that it mistake was to repeat the same scare tactic over and over again, giving an example by scaring some other antagonist one time, what works, then a second time, what per se also works, but the guy then starts to trash around and attack.
It's overall the biggest problem with IT. The idea to have some psycho demon thing, that eats fear is fine, but what's the point of IT not eating those kids? If they are protected somehow, why go after them and not just ignore them? Obviously all other people are not protected and without it going after that group, they wouldn't have done anything.
I honestly really liked this movie. Granted it's not as scary as Part 1, but I thought the casting was great, especially Bill Hader. I loved them diving into IT's origins as well as the ritual.
I mean the kids from Chapter 1 chose their adult counterparts
an often overlooked part is that the ritual did actually work but not when the losers first tried it, this was because one of them didn't burn the right token. Their "dirty little secret" Pennywise taunted them about was them being gay and the fear they would be rejected by the others if they found out. Yet after the mortal wounding of the one they had a crush on when they were young and a heartfelt confession to which they and the rest the group all reconfirmed their friendships for each other the final token was sacrificed and the ritual started to weaken Pennywise straight away.
I love how angry the Mrs gets when she’s scared. It’s such an honest reaction, but I can’t stop laughing… does that make me a bad person?
The Ritual is in the novel but it's completely different and they also do the ritual as kids. Great read, I'm reading through it again because of these videos haha
I think a lot of the horror and scary factor came from the fact that they were all kids being chased by something horrific. So the aging up definitely removed some of the scary factor for me. But I still love the way everything was tied up. As tragic and sad as it might've been. Like a certain crying over a body scene that I won't mention for the sake of my emotional state
@@ArcticPrimal They followed the same formula that the novel and 1990 version used. Besides, I think they would have ruined it completely by changing things up like they tend to do when adding extra things than what the book itself contains (i.e. The Hobbit, The Stand, etc.)
im devastated about eddie every time. my favorite character :(
He wasn't close to my favorite from the IT TV show but here esp. Eddie as a kid was my favorite.
I still can't believe the actor who played adult Mike is the guy from the Old Spice commercials.
Never noticed that. Will have to look for that online
Always found It: Chapter Two critically underrated. Never really understood the unnecessary hate it got. Sure it’s not perfect, but neither was the first film. And IMO, It: Chapter Two did improve upon certain aspects of it, making for such an excellent companion piece to the first half of the story that’s emotionally fulfilling.
It's too long, it's too boring, it's too much CGI and the little side missions they go on, felt like padding for time. That's why the movie sucks
It's my favorite of the two
@@WillsonT011 Agreed, and it's just jump scares over and over. No real horror or suspense.
@@WillsonT011
1. 90% of the runtime is justified minus the Henry Bowers subplot. I suppose the second act could’ve been trimmed a bit as well, but that’s about it.
2. Chapter Two has tons of great moments whether it’d be from most of its memorable scares, all the actors giving excellent performances (especially Bill Hader who steals every scene he’s in), the character development each of the Losers get, and how each part of the film builds towards the final confrontation against Pennywise that’s not only epic, but concludes in such a satisfying way.
3. Chapter Two has just about as much CGI as the first film. Only difference is Chapter Two actually had the budget to make most of it look good or passable at worst.
4. If they didn’t go on that side mission towards the second act of the film, they would’ve stood no chance against Pennywise not remembering anything and without each of them coming to terms with their trauma.
Verdict: The movie doesn’t suck
@@intellex551 Jump scares can be well-done too you know. Simply having them doesn’t mean there’s no horror or suspense to be found.
10:01 Mrs. Movies' reactions are priceless LOL!
The ritual is different in the book, I guess they didn't think it would translate well into film or something. It's more of a battle of will, some kind of telepathic thing. Oh and Ben aborts Pennywise babies.
I think they changed the Audra side plot is because the actress they cast to play her was pregnant at the time. So they had to cut her role short.
Amy Adams did play an older version of the girl that plays Bev in Sharp Objects
"i wonder what the book is like" well....... it jumps around a lot. its actually scarier. and theres a few overly sexualized scenes with the kids like when the bullys are hanging out or when the kids are trying to escape the sewer. oh and theres a turtle involved which kinda is confusing
It's the way its filmed modern horror moves doing away with MOSTLY cheap jumpscares and letting sound design and the camera due the work. The anticipation of the thumping and then that giant hulking figure looming over the camera 21:50 so good
The actress who plays Eddie's wife is the same one that played his mom in it chapter one
Bill paid $200 dollars for Silver. In Creepshow, Stephen King's character Jordy wanted $200 dollars for the meteor found. So in a way he kinda got it. Lol
Fun fact
The bathroom stall scene with Bev is the most blood used in a single shot of any movie.
Nightmare on Elm Street
Interesting fact, the actress that plays Eddie’s wife is the same one that played his mum in part 1.
A versatile actress
I love the casting for the adult Losers Club so much. Especially Jessica Chastain as Bev. One of the creepiest parts in Chapter II is when the Losers Club is at the Chinese restaurant and they start getting tormented by Pennywise.
Amy Addams does look like Beaverley more than Chastain does...as Mrs. Movies pointed out. The casting was quite good though. especially the SNL guy I forget his name John Heder I think.
@@mcentepede *Bill Hader
it feeds on fear. it makes him powerful. its like fattening a pig before u eat it. sure he can eat the kids now or whenever he wants, but he wants to season them with fear. peak fear for a delicious meal. also i think it gets a kick of "playing with it's food". again kinda like how humans enjoy the thrill of the hunt.
In the book, IT feeds on the fear the town has for those 3 years
The reason Pennywise leaves bodies is the same reason vampires do- they only need blood, Pennywise only needs fear- biting them brings the abject terror he needs to survive.
The guy who plays Penny wise is in Dead Pool 2. He's the one spits acid and lands in the wood chipper after parachuting from the plane.
Hey guys! Ben is played by well known Australian actor Jay Ryan as an adult. The kid that plays Henry Bowers in It chapter 1 is Australian actor Nicholas Hamilton.
so a few things i want to cover, 1 pennywise is not a spider clown, he not only is the dead lights and the human brain cant conceve his true form so it just sees a spider.2 they refrence the turtle that beat pennywise towards the end at the lake.3pennywise isnt a demon for christ sake he is a alien.4 he can kill anyone at anytime but he prefers kids because they are innocent and easy to trick,and he likes them scared because it makes the meat taste good.(yes i am a massive steven king fan)
My favorite scene out of all of these is in this movie when Bill Hader is getting ready to throw the rock and his legs give out under him. Part 1 is superior but that scene is fantastic.
I love that you caught the fact that the actor playing young Ben in the 90's version was the one talking to adult Ben in this one, good eye!
Yes...she caught that quite easily for some reason.
He isn't feeding off of the children. He is feeding off of their fear. That's why he appears as a scary clown and other monsters, because it makes people afraid, and children are easier to scare than adults. Remember in the first movie he says, "Delicious fear."
Boy, I can't think of a better example to prove the utter dearth of any kind of decent horror film in the last 25 years. She reminds me of my mom who would refuse to see any film stronger than Disney or Streisand. Thank god for my Pop.
For me the thing I wasn't too into was I felt they could have done more pennywise scenes, like how brutal he's in the book, I felt like that was a lot of wasted potential of skarsgard as pennywise, considering how amazing he was as pennywise, I remember everyone thought he would be terrible then the first trailer came out and everyone got into it. He's definitely going to be interesting in John wick 4.
There is a lot of both versions of the films in the book. But a lot that was missed out on some backstory on Henry’s friend who was more of a monster in ways than Henry was. A lot of the the history is fleshed out in the book. The ritual is heavily in the book also.
I think it is Stephen King's scariest book. It is also one of his longest. The only way they really could have included everything would be the miniseries rout. But they would have ruined it (probably) like they did with the new The Stand series.
Yeah like the ritual that bonded the group after chapter 1....that was left out for very obvious reasons.
@@manbearpig7359 yeah i don't really know what Stephen King was thinking when he wwrote that scene. It was super awkward and cringy just reading it.
@@The_Rickest_Rick Yep that's an understatement. There is just a touch of female early to mid teen obsession with Mr King.
@@The_Rickest_Rick Pretty sure he was thinking something along the lines of "gosh this cocaine is great."
I'd think that's be the worst thing out of all of them to burn is Ben's poem. She'd probably want to keep that second Ben's yearbook page with only one signature on it lol
Bill Hader did amazing job as adult Richie in IT Chapter Two.
The feeding is referring to the souls of his victims, everything else he does is to incite fear because it enriches the meal. There's another one of his kind that feeds of laughter in The Dark Tower series (Dandelo).
This has to be my favorite video ever 😂 ! I've seen the movie a few times before, but I swear I jumped harder at the scares watching the Mrs ! I love you guys
My fiancee is also quite the chickens**t when it comes to horror movies. She claims it gives her nightmares and waking dreams. I tell her it's only a movie with special effects and jumpscare tactics. Some people can't handle horror movies like this and Insidious and Lights Out.
The guy in the meeting room during Ben's introduction, is indeed the same actor who pkayed young Ben in the TV movie :D
Bill Hader and James Ransome are the best part of Ch2, and the flashbacks to the missing summer are good too. The rest i could do without.
The opening scene of this film when it’s in the book is one of the scariest scenes I’ve ever read of any book. I remember reading it the 1st time, literally putting the book down & not finishing the book til years later.
Fun Fact: Andy Bean who played the doomed Stan is this movie, also played Alec Holland in the short lived Swamp Thing tv series from 3 years ago.
I miss that series.
@@phousefilms It was really well done and creepy as hell
The ritual of chud is 100% in the book and so is the beginning scene at the carnival
But no turtle...
@@GarmrsBarking yea I wish they did some of that in the movie. Especially when Bill and Pennywise have their lengthy conversation in the book during the ritual
@@jordanclark6972 probably too complicated to include... And probably too weird for those not familiar with the book...
But yeah i also think it was missing in the movie...
Ah, eu ia chamar a tartaruga, só que a tartaruga não pôde nos ajudar.
He isn’t eating the bodies he’s eating their fear - biting them makes them more afraid.
No, he eats the bodies. The fear just makes them taste better to him. "Salting the meat" is how King described it in the book. Pennywise just doesn't eat them whole. Ever eaten a cornish game hen? Did YOU eat it bones and all? Of course not! Same idea here.
I’ve read the book.
In it adult Mike concludes that it feeds on fear. Richie also talks about how it models it’s forms off of “kid stuff” like monster movies and eating his victims is the scary thing to do.
I’m not saying Pennywise never ate any flesh - but that the events in Derry like the Ironworks explosion etc etc were all tied to the IT cycle but weren’t really meat feeds.
IT doesn’t have a stomach or the need for a balanced omega 3 diet.
What is feeding is the true IT “the dead lights” - they just wear a toothy clown suit sometimes.
But if we really wanna break it down:
This is a 1300 page book written at the height of a coke addiction that also tries to tie it all up with a turtle god and a giant spider - so it’s best to not try and get too pedantic.
My original comment was aimed at Mrs Movie wondering why there were bodies if he ate his victims - I stand by my take. He can eat people - but he’s usually too busy to clean his plate once they stop screaming.
The Ritual of Chud, in the novel, is much more abstract, in a way that doesn't really translate very well to film. The 1990 film showed Bill and the others being captured by It's deadlights. But it didn't show the psychic battle the Losers were engaged in.
When "IT" is drooling its like Homer Simpsons when he is on his own mind thinking in any food. So when Pennywise, take those pauses he goes dreaming too on how tastefull its gonna be or how hes goin to eat it, so.. in a way, before the kill he is in his own "happy place"
I noticed a wink to the 1982 horror classic The Thing too. The head that sprouted legs. It even quoted the movie “You gotta be fucking kidding!”
Well TECHNICALLY the reason a movie was dragging instead of lightening fast scenes, like most book to movie adaptations, was because there were a few more scenes in the book, that wouldn’t fly onscreen, ESPECIALLY 1 scene that I’m fairly certain would LITERALLY BE ILLEGAL TO INCLUDE, that would’ve been in IT chapter 1 just prior to going into Nebolt house, they instead chose to represent with the blood oath at the end, (Bev’s Lucky 7 bang) but there’s some as adults that could’ve been included, the ritual of chud seen here is that in name only, the book it was several chapters by itself, full of things that would be impossible to shoot or potentially confuse the audience, like how the Losers & a giant space turtle (the out of context “Turtle Wax” easter egg in Chaper 1 alluded to that) all defeated It.
I love her commentary lol She just talks away and he just laughs!
The director actually DOES wanna do an IT Super Directors Cut that will be one film with the edit changed slightly, but who knows when that will be relesed. But in the book, the Ritual of CHUD is covered in one of the biggest chapters in the book....as insane as it sounds there's enough material in the book that the last 30 minutes of chapter 2 could've been another 3 hour 3RD FILM...WOW!!
Bill Hader steals the movie as Ritchie.
Also if watch the scene with adult Ben getting the phone call, you will notice one of the guys Ben was talking to on Zoom is the actor who played Young Ben in the 1990 IT miniseries.
The differences from the book are numerous but the main one is in the final battle weakened IT try's to run away but Bill kills IT alone by ripping it apart crawling inside and ripping it's heart out and crushing the heart, while Richie and Ben stay behind and destroy the Egg's IT had laid.
But It's final form is a giant spider and a female and is pregnant.
Only Ben destroyed the eggs. Richie went with Bill but was knocked unconscious by IT.
@@O.B-01 based on the book yes
Stephen King plays up his accent when it suits him.
For me it was a great second chapter. The hate the movie received when it was released was unfair and unnecessary. As an adaptation of the book it is very good, to say that the adult part in the book is less interesting. Many complained that the second chapter was boring and very long, but I don't see the problem when they adapted it very well. I'm definitely left with the new adaptations.
It feeds on fear not flesh
That is why it's goes after mainly children, they are easier to scare.
In the book, it's explained that the reason each member of The Losers Club was "chosen" was because they were each uniquely creative. Ben was a talented architect/engineer. He was the one who designed the dam that they used to flood The Barrens, he designed their clubhouse, and (in the book) he figured out how to make silver shot for their slingshot. Bill was always good at writing stories and in every version grew up to become a famous novelist. Beverly was a talented artist and seamstress, and grew up to become a successful fashion designer. Richie loved making funny voices, and (in the novel) became a radio DJ known for making funny voices with a wide variety of characters (obviously the two movie versions were just successful stand up comics). Eddy's belief in his own poor health caused him to actually experience the illnesses he believed he had. I think Stan was chosen because of his devotion to his faith (with most day to day stuff he only believed in science, but he was devout in his Jewish faith). The only one who wasn't super creative was Mike, but I think he was chosen because his family had a personal connection to Pennywise (which is revealed in his research into Derry's history).
The reason why this was so important in defeating Pennywise was belief and creativity were essential in performing The Ritual Of Chud. The Ritual Of Chud works very differently in the book than in the 2019 movie. Originally it required someone to bite It's tongue while repeating a riddle or a joke. This was why the poem "He hits his fists against the post, but still insists he sees the ghost" was important in the book. That, as well as Richie's jokes, was how they managed to beat It in the end.
What the 1990 version got right was the depiction of the kids. They all played the same role in the movie that they did in the book. The 2017 movie gave Mike's role as historian to Ben, while at the same time maintaining Ben's role as architect/engineer. So Mike ended up being included in the movie more out of obligation to the source material than to any narrative reasons. He became Velma on Scooby Doo after the introduction of Scrappy.
Also, the time difference between book and film in the 1990 version wasn't as crazy as it was in the 2017 version. In the book the events when they were kids took place in 1957, and then It returned in 1984 (the year the book came out, 27 years later). In the miniseries it was changed to 1960 when they were kids, and 1990 (the year of the miniseries broadcast, 30 years later) when they were adults. So a lot of the period sets from the past wasn't too different from the book. However with the kids part in the 2017 movie taking part in the 1980's, I think that the movie lost a lot of the heart of the original because they had to spend so much time saying "Hey look, it's the 80's! See all this 80's stuff? Have we mentioned it's the 80's yet? Did you know it's the 80's? It's the 80's!"
If I were Dominic Noble analysing these movies for Lost In Adaptation, I would say that the 2017 and 2019 movies were better MADE on a technical level, but the 1990 miniseries was the better adaptation of the source material.
For a really good discussion on the differences between the 2017 IT Chapter 1 and the 1990 miniseries (mostly on who was the better Pennywise) I suggest watching The Nostalgia Critic's review of the 2017 movie, titled "Almost Got IT" (a tribute to the Batman: TAS episode "Almost Got 'im"). It's very entertaining and he makes some excellent points on both versions. Here's the link.
th-cam.com/video/lLN1FwiqGwc/w-d-xo.html
The ritual is form the book. IT is a Todash monster from outside our reality that has been around since the dinosaurs. The Dark Tower keeps most of them at bay.
What happened to Adrian Mellon at the start was bad, but they way it went down in the book was so much worse. Reading about the way the people were so much scarier than the monster as they beat him to death. 😣
IT still ate him, but was hardly shown, only briefly described in the background.
And it was based on a real life murder case that happened and that's why he included it in the book
@@suz5765 yup, that’s why it’s one of the most terrifying scenes in the book.
@@GreatOldOne9866 I agree and it kind of explains why Richie kept his sexuality a secret.
@@suz5765 yeah, everyone there hated gays to the point of violence, and IT threatened to tell them about Richie.
I was sad we didn't have flashbacks to the events that Pennywise sparks on his return(the Black Spot fire, the Bradley Gang Massacre, etc;)
Yeah no. I think Bev honestly would have liked Ben if he came forward even as a kid. :) he's sweet and intelligent.
I almost feel like we need a "G-D-It" counter in the corner for Mrs Movies in this episode. Lolz 😂
The way that bullying plays into so many of his stories, he must have been bullied in school.
The Mrs reactions to scares is one of my favourite things on TH-cam.
"I don't understand why he just takes bites of them." ITS THE FEAR....not the flesh, THE FEAR.
Doesn't the fear just make it taste better but it is the flesh that he needs to survive?
Great reaction. The ritual is in the book and there are lots of weird concepts, like a floating cosmic turtle (named Maturin)..... it is like IT'S antithesis/opposite. Admittedly it is very hard to portray what is written in the book into any type of series of images that would make sense on the screen. There are subtly nods here and there to it though..... for instance, there are some images of ceramic turtles on a coffee/end table, some pictures scattered throughout the movies and I think some kind of toy in the thrift shop where Stephen King is. The book is an altogether different animal. Because of how TH-cam censors things there is an entire scene in the book that occurs when the Losers Club are kids that is completely omitted in the movies. Honestly, they really couldn't have shot it how it was written or pretty much everyone would've gone to jail. If you know, then you know. The book is a masterpiece, but a fucked up masterpiece and it makes me wonder just what, and how many drugs King was on when he wrote it. Still is a scary book (and the movies are as well). There is a rumor of a "supercut" type of Director's Cut of chapter 1 and chapter 2 with lots of extra stuff, but it is supposed to be similar to the 2 part VHS miniseries in runtime and be closer to 6 hours. I've held off on buying Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 on 4k because I don't like the double-dipping that these asshole studios do with re-releases of variations of movies over and over again. I had thought that there was supposed to be a prequel movie in pre-production exploring the origins of the creature (IT) but it was right when COVID really started hitting and haven't heard anything since. Anyhoo.... just some answers to a few questions you guys had about the book compared to the movie(s)/miniseries. I always recommend books, but I've loved to read since grades school. This book.... IT.... is similar to the size of a phone book though, so that's a heads up if you are considering that, but I guess it really isn't in the age of downloadable everything, but it's a hefty read nonetheless.
The Mrs is so done with the IT movies 🤣🤣
Worth pointing out that Mike is the actor from the Old Spice commercials (“I’m on a horse…”). He’s actually a very talented actor.
Isiah Mustapha.
Imagine explaining to Mrs. Movies about the interdimensional space turtle in the book...
"Turn light to dark"
The Deadlights. One of the few good examples that dark is not always evil and light is not always good.
Humans fear the dark because of what might be in it, but we also use the environment to prey upon other things, to the point where no state permits hunting game animals at night.