Concept Phones: It's Time to Stop!

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  • @ankur3829
    @ankur3829 ปีที่แล้ว +3367

    As Linus already said... It works but only up to the thermal limit of the device.
    Doesn't matter the cooling solution, there is only so much heat the device can dissipate given its size.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 ปีที่แล้ว

      physics is a bitch

    • @manchesterunitedno7
      @manchesterunitedno7 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      That, and the lack of ventilation to blow the heat out.

    • @NotUwU-_-
      @NotUwU-_- ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@manchesterunitedno7 if only the back was metal

    • @abdullah_mui
      @abdullah_mui ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ​@@NotUwU-_- it needs a fan

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Well, unless you use air cooling and actually get rid of the heat. Liquid cooling will always have the same limitation as passive cooling, the thermal capacity of the phone body.

  • @Kiboxxx
    @Kiboxxx ปีที่แล้ว +746

    I love it when companies are innovative and try new things. You have to imagine how happy the engineers will be, when they get money and time to try something completely new. Very often, engineers are limited by the sales people who complain about a few cents and you have to go with a worse solution just because of costs. This can be quite frustrating. So I only feel good for these people, when they get to show their skills and effort that they put into innovating a product.

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But they’re not innovating. 95% of time, The concepts are merely PR, to generate attention for the brand.

    • @Juan041194
      @Juan041194 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@newagain9964 where did u get that percentage

  • @rishigupta9671
    @rishigupta9671 ปีที่แล้ว +695

    There's no need to stop. Keep on pushing those concept phones companies, we love to see them!

    • @DhrubajyotiRaja01
      @DhrubajyotiRaja01 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *But not to buy them* ..... That's why they always have been dead. LOL....

    • @bravesonly
      @bravesonly ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DhrubajyotiRaja01 not all concepts are dead, smartass. Foldable phones are still a hot topic. Even Android and iPhone were concepts once. LOL...
      Companies in industry have to constantly try. Maybe some concepts just better to stay private and not on MKBHD TH-cam channel

    • @DogeFrom2014
      @DogeFrom2014 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah I'm getting mixed feelings with his rather cynical message. I've always loved concept phones regardless if it's for sale or not.
      And how would any of us know about it without being publicized first? Marques got some faulty logic there.

    • @VVVVV99611
      @VVVVV99611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whatever

    • @DogeFrom2014
      @DogeFrom2014 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nakhla Wow so funny bro 👏

  • @TechBaffle
    @TechBaffle ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Honestly I like the crazy concepts. Smartphones have become so good that it's almost a bit stale at the moment. Breaking boundaries and being different is exciting. I guess there's the PR side of it - companies want recognition on what's behind the scenes, but then they can also build feedback on what people think of their ideas.

    • @isaachenrikson3197
      @isaachenrikson3197 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yeah, almost all new phones kind of just make me feel "wow, a 10% better camera and an 8% faster processor. Just like last year. And the year before.. and before that..."
      These weird concept phones sometimes are actually exciting, since they introduce new features that seem kind of cool. Maybe not super practical, but they potentially can lead into cool new polished features in the future- See foldables for example, there are so many different cool designs that are slowly becoming more and more refined to the point where they seem like a genuinely good option besides just a gimmick.

    • @shlokshah5379
      @shlokshah5379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stale? There are literally samsung alien tech out on the shelves.

  • @callummcneill6266
    @callummcneill6266 ปีที่แล้ว +3026

    Marques always explains things in a concise and calm way

    • @tatendanenhanga
      @tatendanenhanga ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@Zaydan Alfariz i totally agree!

    • @callummcneill6266
      @callummcneill6266 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @elfrjzagreed

    • @boostkiller
      @boostkiller ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because you want to be in this way

    • @realessayog6947
      @realessayog6947 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What's up with all the bots in the comment section? This channel buys views now ?

    • @AlexZouhehe
      @AlexZouhehe ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Wow..jeez..Did you thought up that whole sentence on your own?That's literally his job. That's literally every tech tuber's job.

  • @VKdViKingDark
    @VKdViKingDark ปีที่แล้ว +682

    The thing with R&D, is that it has to be like "Throw everything at the wall, see what sticks". In case of product companies though the responsibilties are divided. The researchers and engineers are the people doing the throwing, while the management and sales need to handle the sticking. However, many times what does not stick for one company or for one product, may stick for another. Or what didn't stick now would stick in future. Therefore, the throwing is important whether it sticks or not. There have been cases where a stray, forgotten paper from half a century ago has gained sudden importance. Sure, for the consumers and management, a concept device is just a PR move. But for the R&D, it may be a major breakthrough.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I have an amazing breakthrough idea they can easily implement. Add the ability to expand storage space. I heard it was called SD card compatibility. Crazy right?
      Or something even more weird. Actually having the super ability to open the phone and remove the battery.
      I have another where you can actually connect wired headphones and not worry about wireless headphones battery running out while you are watching a movie or something etc but maybe that is going too far.
      I have lots of this crazy concept ideas. If any company wants to contact me am here all day.

    • @frankroquemore4946
      @frankroquemore4946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very well said

    • @prabhatp654
      @prabhatp654 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this actually makes sense. Maybe they don't need to stop.

    • @VKdViKingDark
      @VKdViKingDark ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SIPEROTH All of what you said are still available in phones, just not all of them. And it is very important to point out that any product that reaches you was specifically made to make profit. Management asked and engineers and researchers delivered. Those very engineers are probably using a phone with all those features you mentioned. They don't usually get a say in what to sell. A concept is just a researchers work at show. If that concept somehow is able to attract some money that means more money for further research. You have no idea how many good innovations or invention are limited to paper just because of lack of money, because they won't make profit.
      And while removing the headphone jack has inconvenienced many, it has led to further innovations in wireless technology. It has led to having one less ingress point for waterproofing. Many people love not having to connect a wire. Making the battery non-removable have made batteries bigger and denser. Again also adding more waterproofing. Ofcourse all of it is probably possible without compromises, but a company still needs to make profit. Because if it doesn't, forget about the features you won't see the product itself.
      The point is there will always be someone inconvenienced by a new thing, however that cannot and should not stop innovation.

    • @VKdViKingDark
      @VKdViKingDark ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@catboy3471 I will tell you with absolute certainty that 98% of Apple users have not used most of those features (Expect Dynamic Island since its a default behavior, although it also saved no lives either). And Apple makes huge (literally out of your comprehension) amounts of profit that they put in R&D. Just like Marques said, there probably is a USB-C iPhone sitting somewhere in their research center. But because of the amount of money they make they don't need to release a concept phone to hype people. When Apple removed the headphone jack quoting "Courage", they weren't completely lying. But a company like Apple could have shown that courage. Any other brand could have possibly gone down under. Also ECG was on other smartwatches before Apple watch.
      OnePlus (and most Chinese brands) actually sell their phones in loss for few years before they start making profit. They need to rely on investors to continue their R&D. Investors, who only invest if they see a profit.
      And none of the things you mentioned are useless. Unfortunately, I must throw Marques under the bus here, but he isn't exactly qualified to check if the liquid cooling is useful or not. And it does not need to be useful right away either. Just like the liquid cooling was useless to Marques, it was not for Linus. Like how a 1 inch sensor did not excite Marques, it excited MrWhosetheboss Arun. They saw that ofcourse for an average consumer, none of these are useful, now. But they did not deny the possibilities. And that is what Concept devices represent, possibilities.
      Not everything have to save lives. If that was the case a knife, that can cut a human and vegetable alike, would have never been invented.

  • @darkjemdude
    @darkjemdude 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That usbc iPhone comment sure aged well😂

  • @tomhuddleston1850
    @tomhuddleston1850 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    It's not just a PR stunt - it advances the industry forward. Other companies look at them and determine what is possible, it inspires others. The first people to make a folding smart phone were probably laughed at, but it's gaining more and more traction now - and that was born from the idea of a concept. Eventually, a concept phone could come out that defines the game all over again.

    • @tjjavier
      @tjjavier ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said Sir! 🙌

    • @sris8483
      @sris8483 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sameway ... Samsung bought the large screen we see everyday from concept to reality 10 years ago.... ppl made fun and then its the trend

    • @danialmerli3992
      @danialmerli3992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You missed the point, there’s already phones out there with this technology. And it works… this isn’t groundbreaking technology

    • @aggy69420
      @aggy69420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👏

  • @martinseal1987
    @martinseal1987 ปีที่แล้ว +1562

    It's amazing and helps innovation I'm all for it, nothing wrong with concepts

    • @Kikox00
      @Kikox00 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Yeah Concepts phones are the reason Why we have now foldable phones

    • @Somebodythatiusedtoknoww
      @Somebodythatiusedtoknoww ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah I’m all in for concept phone
      Too bad not many actually came through

    • @Virtduality
      @Virtduality ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just want the cool lights lol.

    • @lifeisshrt7929
      @lifeisshrt7929 ปีที่แล้ว

      screw innovation

    • @maenor
      @maenor ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I can't quite understand the title of this video. Innovation is essential in this market. It always was.

  • @mattmatt-mp7xe
    @mattmatt-mp7xe ปีที่แล้ว +1354

    *IT'S NOT TIME TO STOP*
    Keep the ideas coming, even if they're absolutely stupid! New ideas are ALWAYS welcome!

    • @mattmatt-mp7xe
      @mattmatt-mp7xe ปีที่แล้ว +59

      KEEP THE IDEAS COMING

    • @christiangarcia4925
      @christiangarcia4925 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Remember when Apple removed the headphone jack? The world laughed.
      Remember when Samsung removed the headphone jack? No one batted an eye.
      Remember when Apple removed the charger from the box? The world got mad.
      Remember when Samsung removed the charger from the box?
      No one batter an eye.
      Remember when Apple introduced notches? The world laughed.
      Remember when every Android followed with the notches of their own? No one batted an eye.
      Stupid ideas will always be welcome, as long as it isn't from Apple according to the world.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      ​@@christiangarcia4925 Sir this is a Wendy's
      But sure I'll indulge you. People laughed at Samsung and other android phones when they did it as well. You seem to be mistaking laughing with caring. Apple proved (and continuous to prove) that no matter how much the vocal online audiences complain they can take away features and assets all day and people will still buy their products. Then once Apple has done it the heat is off other phone brands (Apple isn't the biggest but they are big enough that they can set trends) so they do the same. When these "ideas" (I question calling removing features an idea (like I wouldn't call a portless phone an idea (at least not an innovative one)) come around they have a clear purpose of not benefiting the end user but saving the manufacturer money. So of course companies will jump at it when they can. What I don't understand is how consumers can use that as a point to draw battle lines as if any one of these corporations care about you beyond your wallet.

    • @BernardoPatino
      @BernardoPatino ปีที่แล้ว +38

      ​@@vullord666 ​​holy based and nuance-pilled

    • @Dheal
      @Dheal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think you got the point of the video (and the title)

  • @BryceBeatty90
    @BryceBeatty90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay the floating phone at 2:42 was so sweet; especially with it being a video (note the exiting car in the background).

  • @devaadithyabobby2967
    @devaadithyabobby2967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did you do the floating shot? Just the phone floating with the shadow underneath looked really really cool

  • @heyspookyboogie644
    @heyspookyboogie644 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    They’re not JUST pr stunts. They are also a way to test the waters and see what features people would be willing to spend more for, what’s worth investing more in miniaturizing / reducing production cost on, etc.

    • @NotUwU-_-
      @NotUwU-_- ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I would buy it if the back was metal, just slap fan gamepad and say bye to throttle

    • @hellanice2931
      @hellanice2931 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So PR...

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The issue with liquid cooling is that it's still limited by the thermal capacity of the phone's body. So in other words you can have an almost as good effect for far cheaper by turning the whole phone into a better passive heatsink (heatshield and all metal case with a good connection to the SoC) or you actually get the heat out of there with air cooling.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So they are stunts? You just described the specific type of PR stunt. The get find out what kind of people like and spend money on by making a render. Companies have focus groups. There’s a reason Apple sells so much. They give people a good smartphone experience. Not everyone wants to root their phone or have every single inch customized or even care about a finger print sensor. People are willing to spend more for the same 3 things as always. Battery. Screen. Camera. Nothing else in a phone matters

    • @brandonsmith875
      @brandonsmith875 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro that’s what PR means 😅

  • @Niaz_
    @Niaz_ ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yaay!! We've finally heard the classic "I've been using it for weeks" phrase after years! 😂

  • @mohamedaminebenbouali2941
    @mohamedaminebenbouali2941 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my favorite concept phone was that all screen xioami phone where the entire phone was a screen it even wrapped to the back, i loooved the charging animation on that and the seamless ability to take selfies using the back camera without a "separate" extra tiny screen like other concept phones

  • @kissgergo5202
    @kissgergo5202 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I do feel like rollable phones are going to be a thing since Samsung is putting a fair amount of resources into it. I also feel like they make more sense than foldables. No crease, no extra cameras or screens, no double thickness.

  • @hoofhearted4
    @hoofhearted4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    cant imagine a tech guy would say stop to concept phones. I love concepts. I loved like all the stuff you showed. I get that your point is by the time its released as a concept phone, it means its not likely to ever come to fruition, they just want to gain some attention so people think that some day they might do something cool like that showed "that day". i personally just love seeing the tech. we dont see much innovation in phones anymore. a big part of that is money. too much innovation, the phone costs too much, people wont buy. and companies arent in the business of making niche products. still though. its nice to see where the tech is at and yea, ill be a sucker and hope that some day, a company will do the tech its justice and we'll see it released. maybe it'll be well received and lead to more innovation through competition. the foldable screen is a great example of that. it's niche, but people like it enough for multiple companies to attempt it and innovate it. That could be the case with any of the tech in these concept phones.

    • @unloveableandre
      @unloveableandre ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tech Guy that is clearly an Apple fanboy and never waste ANY video to criticize Android phones, even on titles? Yeah, he still thinks he is a journalist.

    • @fg009letyrds8
      @fg009letyrds8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imagine believing this Grifter lmao, he's a Squarespace shill and an Apple Fanboy.

  • @garanceadrosehn9691
    @garanceadrosehn9691 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    People might remember that Apple used to do "concept videos", where they'd take a research idea and get it far enough along to show a cool demo video of it. So it wasn't something you could buy, but it showed off some of the ideas that Apple was working on. Those died when Steve Jobs returned. He hated them. I believe he liked the saying of "Real artists ship".

    • @Knevitzdoug
      @Knevitzdoug ปีที่แล้ว +6

      RIP AirPower.

    • @DhrubajyotiRaja01
      @DhrubajyotiRaja01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Knevitzdoug Apple never officially said anything about that... It was always media websites like MacRumours, Patently Apple...

    • @Jemmartin
      @Jemmartin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, Apple do it. They bring forth (for better or for worse) real concepts and others follow.
      Good ones:
      Brought 2x resolution with retina,
      64bit architecture,
      Designed their own SoC
      Questionable ones:
      Headphone Jack gone
      Notches and islands.

    • @AlexMkd1984
      @AlexMkd1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jemmartin crapple dont havw own soc its made by tsmc sells like apple product pathetic loser company people belive in apple lies

    • @garanceadrosehn9691
      @garanceadrosehn9691 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marton Low - you're describing real, buyable products which deliver the actual concept. I'm referring to concept *videos,* which would show off some amazing technology which wasn't actually implemented yet. The most famous example being the video for the "Knowledge Navigator" in the late 1990's. This video from Marques looks at a product which (kinda) delivers on some cool-sounding concept, but in such a weak implementation that it's almost certainly a dead-end. It does not look like it will ever become a must-have feature on a mainframe product.
      Since the return of Steve Jobs, Apple has had a few product announcements which were mis-fires, but not "concept" products.

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! Thanks for sharing it ✌️

  • @nextstopsleep208
    @nextstopsleep208 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope seeing you on the daily show💯💯💯

  • @daniel....
    @daniel.... ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Why would you want them to stop? It's really cool to see these kinds of concepts and I'm sure the teams that did all the R&D work also get a kick out of showing them.

    • @n.s-studios
      @n.s-studios ปีที่แล้ว

      is it practical? not really ***(at least as it's being used now, although definitely practical in concept)***, but it's cool to see this concept coming down the pipeline, it gives a lot of inspiration.

    • @Vee-bv1vh
      @Vee-bv1vh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@n.s-studios just because it's not practical doesn't mean they should stop it, the main motive for concept and rnd in general is to find a way to make impractical things practical

    • @n.s-studios
      @n.s-studios ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vee-bv1vh I'm agreeing that they should keep making em, my comment was a bit confusing sorry lol.

    • @wayando
      @wayando ปีที่แล้ว

      Because, like in this case, it's useless.

    • @riceflakes498
      @riceflakes498 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wayando but what if it was useful? You don't know untill you try, what if the water cooling worked way better than right now? You will always have failures but that doesn't mean to entirely stop trying. If companies stopped trying to do weird stuff, we would never get the foldable phones or under display cameras etc

  • @AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz
    @AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I thought the Mi Mix Alpha would make the list for crazy concept phones, the way that phone looked and the charging animation is so cool, futuristic and conceptual!

    • @shikharpathak3363
      @shikharpathak3363 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I loved that concept phone

    • @jradish
      @jradish ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that phone left a lasting impression on me for sure. what a stunner that piece was

    • @dragonforcegaming7555
      @dragonforcegaming7555 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh Mi mix alpha just had the looks nothing else was beneficial in it. Like why would you turn your device to see the other page when you can just swipe it?
      The only thing that was interesting and practical in that device was the virtual volume rockers.

    • @AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz
      @AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragonforcegaming7555 it had better and unique features than many of the concept phones in this list

    • @dragonforcegaming7555
      @dragonforcegaming7555 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz name some the unique features other than the virtual volume rockers and pressure points all around the screen.

  • @crazyub
    @crazyub ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep concepts coming! Not a time to stop :D

  • @FragileJesseLord
    @FragileJesseLord ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite concept phone was like two phones stacked on top of eachother. Still only one screen but the back part moved up slightly and that's where the camera was. So it was a full edge to edge display with no camera interrupting it, plus you could put a bigger battery in the the back half. And since the camera slid up it's by default a physical privacy cover

  • @SPrincessbeneficialknowledge
    @SPrincessbeneficialknowledge ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I like the blue lights. Cool cooling system.
    Phones do get hot. I always use mine on speaker phone

  • @UserManson
    @UserManson ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The idea sounds pretty sick, I did have quite the heating problems when using my iPhone in the tropics. Like putting a block of ice on the back of the phone to be able to use it at all.

  • @nicoleherrenbruck6558
    @nicoleherrenbruck6558 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos

  • @frostilver
    @frostilver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That liquid cooling thing I think is mainly useful when you attach a peltier cooler. It can spread the coldness evenly instead of making condensation in one spot.

  • @MrUnknownXD
    @MrUnknownXD ปีที่แล้ว +726

    What if the back panel breaks and the liquid starts leaking out, ik this sounds stupid and yes I'm crazy 💀

    • @BingoBam420
      @BingoBam420 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I guess I will surely break the back panel in order to exhaust my thirst 🙂. Anyway I'm a crazy like you too 🙃

    • @xipingpongs
      @xipingpongs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@_ritesh_k kya kar rhe ha tu

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ah yes my worst nightmare with liquid cooling especially on PC

    • @Somebodythatiusedtoknoww
      @Somebodythatiusedtoknoww ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imagine the liquid leaking onto the motherboard

    • @wantedyou2346
      @wantedyou2346 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      You'll get 1 minute slower charging time and lose 3-4 fps

  • @i_like_Peanuts
    @i_like_Peanuts ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Literally just watched Linus's video on this and honestly I'm happy with the ongoing innovation.. Its tough to have a water cooling solution for phones due to the lack of space but still c'mon.. it will more likely contribute to more research in this sector and better overall performance for the consumer market. Also OnePlus back with them innovations.
    Edit : That is very true. OnePlus used to be one of the best at price to performance but now its alas.. By Innovation i meant companies like Xiaomi or OnePlus always go a little way to add extra features or gimmicks that makes them fun.. not perfect in any way but who doesn't love a bit of new.
    Edit 2 : I meant innovation in phones in general but definitely was a mistake to highlight OnePlus in this case.. i loved this feature although it didn't provide that big of a performance difference because i always loved the concept of a water cooled phone so i became a little too excited when this was brought on lmao.

    • @Shady951
      @Shady951 ปีที่แล้ว

      But where is the "innovation" in this phone 😅😅

    • @sabret00the
      @sabret00the ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Didn't Linus say that the liquid cooling worked though, Marques says it doesn't work at all

    • @klaxxon__
      @klaxxon__ ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sabret00the It worked a little bit :)

    • @mabbah4396
      @mabbah4396 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@hundredfireify buy a walkman mate 🫡

    • @binoymathew246
      @binoymathew246 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

  • @sharathramachandran4025
    @sharathramachandran4025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Marques, I enjoyed this video, it reminded me of my days of using the Blackberry Passport, which was sort of the project phone from Blackberry back in the day and came out around the same time as the 5 and was much progressive in its design and capabilities, will it be possible if you could do a review of it? Thanks!

  • @aquamonkee
    @aquamonkee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd be really impressed if someone made a concept phone without optics hanging out its rear end and a hole in the screen. And then followed through by making it into a real phone

  • @davidalex2683
    @davidalex2683 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really cool video I wish there where a part 2. Also there are good things from just those types of phones that become true like the samsung fold and flip

  • @RandomKSandom
    @RandomKSandom ปีที่แล้ว +133

    It's also a great way to gauge whether people want a particular idea. I'd love a screen that is natively matte (how it used to be done for all displays until about 20 years ago). The matte screen protectors that I use dim the display a little anyway.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I don't like it. The image is worse. Shiny screens look much better. Better colours and light.

    • @Its_BM
      @Its_BM ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Matte glass is bad. Look bad on amoled displays and even worse in LCDs.

    • @dustojnikhummer
      @dustojnikhummer ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Its_BMOn Jon touchscreen displays? Fuck gloosy displays.

    • @cyjanek7818
      @cyjanek7818 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Built in display matt layer also decreases sharpness and makes screen dimmer, there is a reason why screens are not Matt in laptops even though they don't have touchscreens

    • @RandomKSandom
      @RandomKSandom ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cyjanek7818 If someone, like me for example, installs a matte screen protector, and is willing to make those sacrifices to do so; doesn't it stand to reason that getting a device with fewer layers, and thus better clarity than a screen protector, makes sense for that person? It doesn't mean that you have to choose it if your prefer glossy.
      Also matte laptops, and desktop monitors are still common, because they make looking at the display in real world conditions much easier.

  • @swidd
    @swidd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:00 omg it was real

  • @kaktusgoreng
    @kaktusgoreng ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I mean, their motto used to be "never settle". This is exactly the move to go back to their roots

  • @Amms.connect
    @Amms.connect ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I didn’t expect that liquid cooling was possible on a smartphone at this decade.

    • @h4x0y
      @h4x0y ปีที่แล้ว

      We could move liquid in much smaller spaces decades ago. The real question is whether this has any practical sense, or that said company is hyping up something that won't be useful. My 2 cents: focus on more efficient chips and use the water cooling space for battery and other useful elements.

    • @Amms.connect
      @Amms.connect ปีที่แล้ว

      @@h4x0y ye i agree with this point, especially when overheating is not the big problem in smartphones in these days.

  • @Dys_phoria
    @Dys_phoria ปีที่แล้ว

    These really excites me, I hope they don’t STOP!

  • @delarosapaulo7236
    @delarosapaulo7236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me one of the best concept I've seen is the under screen camera and its getting successful now rather than the mechanical pop up camera

  • @samordera
    @samordera ปีที่แล้ว +142

    It never is time to stop. I wonder what the first concept tech was. Like a concept steam engine car or a concept typewriter.

    • @jamrollz
      @jamrollz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably some kind of twig based cooking utensil

    • @shawndavis218
      @shawndavis218 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was a concept rock

  • @Healvia
    @Healvia ปีที่แล้ว +59

    LTT also did a review on this and tested for the cooling and it does work to some extend (burst loads, not extended ones)

  • @jugalriya8104
    @jugalriya8104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As usual the first time i see new products are on your channel , super happy with your vids keep on doing stuff nobody else does

  • @UndermobzRec
    @UndermobzRec ปีที่แล้ว

    It does work! The heat is way more spread out over the phone and if you make the software work with the hardware it can make a nice difference

  • @quadqq
    @quadqq ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I think we should keep an open mind. This really could be ground breaking if it is combined with the Solid State Active Cooling that was showcased at CES earlier this year.

    • @ikramkamal12
      @ikramkamal12 ปีที่แล้ว

      💩

    • @vinay1571
      @vinay1571 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      concepts will almost never be released. OnePlus Concept One never was. forget this.

  • @PeteSimpson
    @PeteSimpson ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Earlier on this morning I watched a video on this exact phone on the LTT channel. Funnily enough OnePlus asked Linus *NOT* to do deep diagnostics text on the phone, so he did it anyway lol 😉

  • @RaySuesTravelChannel
    @RaySuesTravelChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I would like to see a round mounting point on the camera platform so videographers could screw on Cpl and variable ND filters. Now that would be helpful or On a clip that can cover all of the cameras especially the Samsung Galaxy S23 ultra.

  • @MHTHINK
    @MHTHINK ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Especially for more demanding devices for compute like VR headsets, this could be useful. Not as it is under a glass case with low heat radiation. But the use of piezoelectric pumps to flow water with low power, no moving parts and low size - that's helpful when there's a decent method to get heat out of the system.

  • @14077goodluck
    @14077goodluck ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Let people try. It's never a time to stop. If they shipped an unfinished or faulty product then you can term it as "CRAZY".

  • @ItsSome9shit
    @ItsSome9shit ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that a clean fn intro plus he went right innto it

  • @Datenschutz_Datenschutz
    @Datenschutz_Datenschutz ปีที่แล้ว

    flowing around the camera bump could be used as radiator addon and helps for heat dissipation.

  • @SRC267
    @SRC267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:22 that's it folks! We can end the video right here.

  • @flame_papi
    @flame_papi ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Soon Marques might as well become a movie director, cause WOW his production team is seriously good. Keep up the eye-pleasing visuals and great content.🔥

    • @mynameisjeff9124
      @mynameisjeff9124 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn’t he than rather be a movie editor?

    • @randomMSMtuber
      @randomMSMtuber ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Npc

    • @ajp2206
      @ajp2206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mynameisjeff9124 more like the actor

    • @IAmAPhan
      @IAmAPhan ปีที่แล้ว

      Anyone can be a director. But a good one? Nothing about what mkbhd does would make him a good director.

  • @poo55555
    @poo55555 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen the Red Magic 8 Pro? I love the under screen selphie cam idea.

  • @shahminhajuddin
    @shahminhajuddin ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good points 👌🏻

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Marques has returned and we couldn’t be any more ecstatic. His tech reviews are always the best.

  • @racesuey
    @racesuey ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LG's rollable phone DID ship. It was production ready when they killed it. Korea-only and less than thousand units but it did ship.

  • @Aeleas333
    @Aeleas333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the camera bump looks much better in this circle-only style than the wraparound hybrid of the standard Oneplus 11

  • @TheLocalSetup
    @TheLocalSetup ปีที่แล้ว

    Been testing the phone for 3 weeks now is biggest flex!

  • @vondahe
    @vondahe ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Well, at least get rid of the bubbles. I’ll also be really interested in hearing how the liquid reacts to cold. Some of us encounter subzero temperatures from time to time, and while no phone likes those, imagine the liquid freezing and bursting the tiny tubes. ☃️

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not a problem in my country. Here the water my burst the tubes by boiling.

    • @vondahe
      @vondahe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SIPEROTH Sounds uncomfortable. Kuwait?

    • @martorth
      @martorth ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe the bubbles help with temperature expansion, but i think that they are mainly there for the looks. Especially in a concept phone where they can clearly show that the water in there is moving.

    • @vondahe
      @vondahe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martorth If anything, the bubbles could be steam. More likely either sloppiness or design. Looks cool, though.

    • @martorth
      @martorth ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vondahe Steam? This is not a motor from a car that has to be cooled :D

  • @TheDuzx
    @TheDuzx ปีที่แล้ว +16

    From LTT's testing it seemed like it works, but phones are so small that there isn't a lot of surface area to saturate with heat. Water cooling is probably a better option for devices that actually have a fan or more surface area so it would be interesting to see if this could be useful in a gaming laptop for example.

  • @LuneLuan
    @LuneLuan ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite concept phone (wasn’t mentioned here) is the Mi Mix Alpha from Xiaomi. it was mostly all display front and back.

  • @aditxox
    @aditxox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just loved his video description 😂

  • @shrenikchoudhary
    @shrenikchoudhary ปีที่แล้ว +266

    New iPhone: Same design, barely any changes. 50% improved battery and 2x faster processing.
    New OnePlus: We've added flowing water to speed up charging by 1 minute 😅

    • @styx8383
      @styx8383 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Wrong new iPhone slightly upgrade battery processor is the same as the last gen if you don't know don't talk LoL

    • @theyhateme8763
      @theyhateme8763 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      iphone batteries are awful

    • @rizarue
      @rizarue ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You're reaching with that iPhone improvements bruh.

    • @PekMeh12
      @PekMeh12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@styx8383 bro chill he's just making a joke

    • @maneshnarwade1420
      @maneshnarwade1420 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      LoL do you know what 50% improvement and 2x faster means 😂
      It's barely 5% improvement and 10% faster processing.

  • @isbey
    @isbey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Concept phones aren’t just the end result of research and development, but they are part of it. One thing they are researching is public interest in certain concepts. That phone this year with the matte screen is a perfect example, they want to see how much buzz it will make to see if it’s worth pursuing it any further

  • @abul1
    @abul1 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best concepts for phones was the razer oh could be attached to a laptop body at the trackpad. That would power the entire laptop. If phones become powerful enough (theyre almost there) that could be a great feature.

  • @ralphramirez7504
    @ralphramirez7504 ปีที่แล้ว

    THAT ROLLABLE concept is super nice!!!

  • @tommoex
    @tommoex ปีที่แล้ว +7

    R&D is also to put the company in a good position if an idea was to take off and puts it in contention. Imagine if meta takes off and you don't have anyone who can take advantage of it, you're on the back foot already.

  • @dara212
    @dara212 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Been watching you for more than a decade and you're still super creative with your craft. You seem to never to run out of ideas.

    • @dara212
      @dara212 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rspec122 😅😅

  • @fly2724
    @fly2724 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so logical. Tks

  • @ahoyhoy1
    @ahoyhoy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanted to say that you make very good content.

  • @pikeyMcBarkin
    @pikeyMcBarkin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always your productions are super high end, and it's obvious you all worked hard on this.

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It should have small wings to make it more aerodynamic, which is important in daily use.

  • @jackman1234567898765
    @jackman1234567898765 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like it’s the same as concept cars, it may not be commercially viable, but it does push the boundaries of the industry and can put some very creative ideas out there and lead to meaningful innovations

  • @Notllamalord
    @Notllamalord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem with this “cryo flux” and why it sounds like it will barely make a difference is that it doesn’t actively cool. All liquid does is move heat around, you’d still need a fan or radiator to extract the heat from the phone. Without that you’re heavily limited

  • @vhateg
    @vhateg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the matte display: you can buy matte screen protectors. They look AMAZING on any phone and are very thin, so you more or less feel the glass underneath.

  • @keon3155
    @keon3155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:43. How is that phone hovering?

  • @ivanfernandezramirez2629
    @ivanfernandezramirez2629 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tbh, LG did put a lot of concept phones on the market like the Chocolate, the LG Wing or the 3D phone... Didn't worked that well lol. But it's really cool to see some crazy ideas once in a while

  • @Aayush_dab
    @Aayush_dab ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U should definitely open it 🙌🏻

  • @HammyAndSammy
    @HammyAndSammy ปีที่แล้ว

    That concept looks cool, hope it really works someday

  • @ArielWalls
    @ArielWalls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is from the future, iphone with usb-c port exists

  • @ThePatman1980
    @ThePatman1980 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually think the RIZR is a more interesting rollable than the Oppo concept because of its small size. The back panel also works as a cover display like for the Flips and Razrs. There will obviously be durability concerns. The part that rolls up looks very flimsy as many pointed out. But I think this concept already made foldables look very boring and outdated. Rollables can remove a crease.
    If this ever comes to the mass market, it will be my next phone. But it's just a concept. I remember seeing foldable and rollable screens back in CES 2011. We didn't get the curved displays about a year after the Samsung's YOUM announcement in early 2014. Then foldables by 2019. We could be waiting for a while for this next generation RIZR. Rollables can be the new gen for sliders like the OG RIZR, Z9, LG Chocolate, Nokia N95, etc.
    I currently still use a Razr 5G next to a Flip 3, iPhone SE 2022, iPhone X, and Pixel 3. But my sim is inside that Razr because I prefer using it as a phone the most even if I prefer my Flip 3 more as an overall device. Motorola and Nokia have the best reception and call quality. Looks like my next phone will continue to be a stylish and pocketable Motorola.
    Wishlist
    1. Motorola RIZR
    2. Apple iPhone 13 mini

  • @ArthurTucker
    @ArthurTucker ปีที่แล้ว

    5:49 I’ve got a matte screen protector on my 13 Mini and love it, but definitely not a thing for everybody.

  • @luca_lauso
    @luca_lauso ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see them try to sell the 3 to 4 additional FPS in an Apple-like graph that no one can really get behind

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simple, make the graph look bigger where every FPS looks like a nice big step and go "See guys? We jumped from here to here. Isn't it amazing?"

  • @shikharpathak3363
    @shikharpathak3363 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The concept phones are the one's keeping it interesting it shows how much effort is put to make the consumers buy their products and it's always interesting. If the "concept" of multiple camera's on a phone didn't hit we may not have seen them, same for fold and so many other innovations in tech and yeah type c charging port in an iPhone isn't a "concept"😂😂

  • @BVLVI
    @BVLVI ปีที่แล้ว

    Your are the #1 when it comes to video quality on youtube. When are we getting MKBHDR! that's right HDR if you upgrade then others will most phones can do hdr! make it a thing! why not
    make your videos look better than every one else and really stand out.

  • @snowyxbb
    @snowyxbb ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not ever stop with concept ideas

  • @hassosigbjoernson5738
    @hassosigbjoernson5738 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For the sake of imagination and inspiration I hope companies never stop showing prototypes and concept phones, cars or tech in general!
    It wouldn't surprise if one or another engineer has been "influenced" by seeing one of those concepts in detail and developed something cool that actually comes to market!
    The pop-up-camera was a cool thing to do on a Xiaomi Mi 9T, I think ... and with those "ultra" or "plus" models today for 1000 bucks there would be the enough room and money to do that again.

  • @NotShaikan
    @NotShaikan ปีที่แล้ว +86

    If you like the idea of a matte screen, you can ger a polyurethane protective film on your screen. They can be matte.
    It's cheap, you can always go back to glossy and replacement and servicing isn't an issue. The downsides of limited brightness and contrast is still there though.

    • @adthya9209
      @adthya9209 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marquesbronlee No you haven't. GTFO bot

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was thinking even a textured glass screen protector would work

    • @Michael-zf1ko
      @Michael-zf1ko ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I do for every touchscreen device I own. It's a game changer.

    • @DogeFrom2014
      @DogeFrom2014 ปีที่แล้ว

      For those who want it, they are commonly known as "hydrogel films" in online stores.

    • @NotShaikan
      @NotShaikan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hydrogel is a different material from what I was referring to, but yeah they do make protective films out of it as well

  • @intetx
    @intetx ปีที่แล้ว

    Full color eInk is definitely the coolest. Might buy if in the market for a phone and available.

  • @mtbonly7306
    @mtbonly7306 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Marques great video
    Is the s22 ultra is Stil a buy this days?

  • @zeromark0
    @zeromark0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everyone is better than the iPhone in innovation.

  • @vinny1-08
    @vinny1-08 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta appreciate the team that takes Marques' videos to a whole new level

  • @makotheowl
    @makotheowl ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see that working if it has an external cooling fan, use the liquid to distribute the temperature

  • @VaibhavShewale
    @VaibhavShewale ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well its amazing that they at least tell people about the concept they have thought but maybe some dont share cause they fear that their concept would be stolend and changed and be sold in future!

  • @TomasuDesu
    @TomasuDesu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I mean the fact that these are “conceptual” ideas are just insane. You’re holding possibly revolutionary tech in your hand. Mind blowing to be honest

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. ปีที่แล้ว

      What processing in a phone requires liquid cooling ?

  • @arnavarora4338
    @arnavarora4338 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Marques always explains things in a concise way and calm way !!
    Thank u ❤️❤️

    • @realessayog6947
      @realessayog6947 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What's up with all the bots in the comment section? This channel buys views now ?

    • @Theauu
      @Theauu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realessayog6947 Nah, this is all over TH-cam.

    • @callummcneill6266
      @callummcneill6266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YOU COPIED MY COMMENT SHUT UP

    • @arnavarora4338
      @arnavarora4338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@realessayog6947 BTW I am not a bot

    • @audrymorningstar
      @audrymorningstar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realessayog6947 😂😂😂😂

  • @pyromethious
    @pyromethious ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing that the camera area is where the liquid flows to let out heat as it's farther away from the core hardware

  • @buck6068
    @buck6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother MKBHD, could you do a review of the ClearPhone 620 privacy phone? I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Kind Regards from Sweden brother, and thanks for your hard and good work

  • @nicholascox4545
    @nicholascox4545 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s incredible that you have not only the best, most insightful thoughts on tech, but that your production continues to be at the bleeding edge. You can watch your videos just for the cinematography and editing. It’s unbelievably impressive

  • @aqibos
    @aqibos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t think they should stop. Companies push the boundaries of smart phones, which lead us to the phones we have today. So, I see no problem in a company getting good PR for their efforts and pushing the market forward. Some tech is just too early, but may eventually make it to the market. Most of the models you showed were in the last 2-3 years. Maybe we’ll see them in the market in 5+ years because of the R&D done already.