Always good stuff, Jason. The rest of the world may think we're crazy for spending this much time thinking about how best to throw a frisbee, but at least we have each other.
Its self betterment at the end of the day. Also with Cornhole competitions on ESPN, Im not totally convinced that the rest of the world has the best taste in sports. :) Happy hucking!
I'm a beginner... all of my longest throws are always "over rotated" past my line and this concept in the first few minutes is the only time I have ever seen anyone actually explain why. Thank you - lightbulb!!!
Amazing light bulb moment!! Thank you! Why does it have to be winter and raining?!? I need to put this into real practice before I forget. I really appreciate these videos. No one on TH-cam breaks down the brace and weight shift like you do. I've been slowly building up an understanding, but I haven't been able to truly implement it physically like something in my brain was locked, but this video just totally triggered it for me. I had to go pick up a 30lb dumbbell like that bench and pretend to throw it. Bam, brace!!! My man!!!!
This explains why I have experienced a few “grip locks” that accidentally fly 80+ feet farther than expected - since my body is in a more properly braced position. Same amount of power felt in my throw from an effort standpoint, but more efficiently ejecting the power into the disc from better bracing. This off-season is going to be the best time to be working on this as I know it will probably take some time to adjust, but will be well worth it. Thanks for the video and always look forward to your content!
This happened to me too! I threw a valkyrie 430 feet. But it was a good 30 degrees off to the right. Now I know why it went so far compared to my "on target" drives
Good info, looking forward to practicing this motion. I always feel like I have plenty of arm speed and power, yet something still falls short. (That something is my disc, haha) Thanks for the vids, I like your delivery.
This is the culmination of a lot of recent discussion. Great video. This paired with the information about the upper body being a more static frame are probably the two things people should know EARLY in learning the backhand.
"upper body being a more static frame". This is something I'm finally grasping, and it's keeping me from having 'bad days' where the disc just doesn't seem to come out with speed. Concentrating on keeping my shoulders and hips square and connected to one another helps a ton. I've started reminding myself to 'stay tight' and 'keep my shoulders high' and it cleans up a lot of slop in my throw.
I'm with you. I've got all this stuff down, but I just naturally like to get out of balance in my reach back.... so I'm trying to drill that out of me. Still hitting 400-425 with pretty much zero issue consistently. Feels so good.
@@drkevns Yeah, I float around 375' when things are going bad, and am hitting 400' consistently when they are going well. They are going well more often since I've started focusing on posture more. I'll have a week here and there where I break through to 425-450 range, but it's always short lived.
That's awesome! I can get to 450-475 on distance lines pretty often lately, but my longest golf shot is a destroyer hyzerflip to about 425. Balance is probably the single most important thing most people aren't talking about as much as they should. SW knows of its importance, and Rhatton has a few great videos I've referenced many times in my "studies." But most people want to talk about what their arm should be doing... in reality, it's one of the least active parts of the throw! Right now I have a really great handle on my form, but my off arm is really inactive. I've been working on getting it more involved (Drew Gibson style swim move) but my balance isn't fully engrained yet so when I start thinking about something new it starts getting back to old habits. I'll probably just start getting reps in and focusing on balance until it's muscle memory/natural and then get back to the off arm later. I'm not hurting for distance in tournaments right now so I think balance is probably the better focus for me. I'm hoping to get back into recording my form every day and getting my form thread going on DGCR (I just bought a house and should be able to start throwing in the garage soon-fuck field work in the winter). It'd be awesome if you took a look when you get a chance after I get it up. I've been following your stuff for a while now and I feel like we're on a similar level when it comes to form work. At the very least, I can have a discussion with you and not feel like I'm explaining concepts. I know that sounds dick-ish but a lot of the form check comments come from guys who don't understand a lot of the core concepts.
@@drkevns Preach on lots of people talking out of their ass, lol. The thing that helped me get the off arm under control is trying to throw with my arm pinned to my hip. After watching guys like Kevin Jones, Calvin Heimberg, and James Conrad, I notice how the arm is extremely tight into the body, and the movement away from their body happens slightly and is fluid with the movement backward and forward. Keeping that backward and forward movement as one consistent move became really easy when I started thinking about keeping it pinned to my body (which it doesn't really do because of momentum. I think it's really hard to replicate guys like Drew, GG, even McBeth, because it takes perfect timing and balance to pull off their style.
This video came to me at the perfect time. I was just out in the field yesterday trying to keep my feet from turning around while doing the X step, and trying to keep them perpendicular with the long side of the tee pad while stepping diagonally on the plant step. This makes so much more sense! Thank you!!
This explains a lot for me... I think. When I get my best throws they always seem to take a rightwards trajectory. I always thought I was addressing this problem with my foot placement, but I haven't been adjusting my weight shift direction with me feet. I'm a tall skinny guy, so I sometimes get the feeling that I have to generate more power by pushing off my back foot than other normal to heavyset people. I'll have to reincorporate the up to down transfer like you mentioned. Thanks!
Just stumbled onto your channel by mistake and your ways of explaining the backhand are incredibly useful and are something I have been looking to find for a long time! Thank you for sharing!
What a great layman's terms explanation and analogy. This is something I've been struggling with for so long and you made it seem so much easier. Thanks!!! And I'm glad you didn't start swinging scissors.
This is amazing.... And something I've been wondering after watching one of Simon's vlogs and notice how far in front his brace foot is. Can't wait to work on this more
Omg a buddy got me into disc golf and I happened to stumble on your videos. I used to ball golf and for some reason it never occurred that the brace and hip/leg motions were so vital to generating power in the disc. This video really made a lot of things click and I'm excited to try them out. Glad I subscribed!
Thanks a lot man for putting this video on youtube!! Earlier I threw almost only with my arm as you show at the beginning of the video and felt like need to strain muscles to get the disc to fly 50-60 m. Then I saw this video, started to think about the weight shift and now a week into practicing it, the disc flies 80 m (sorry, can't think in others than SI units :D) but what is even better than the distance gain is the fact that it feels so easy and effortless compared to the earlier throws!
3:36 - Coolest dog owned by a disc golf instructor. :) The single biggest mistake in disc golf is a total failure to brace. And a bent plant leg is not a brace, it is literally a suspended and collapsed structure(!), the total opposite of a brace. I am 100% convinced, after 34 years of disc golf, that the plant leg must be straightened during the smash, as it braces, increases traction and grip, as well as rotating the hips faster, by pushing the right hip backwards along the Line Of Play. I have added this plant leg extension to my standing and x-step throws, and it adds huge power. It also means it's easy to no define the disc golf backhand throw: It is a centripetally-assisted un-punch. And it informs the timing of the smash perfectly.
I absolutely love the analogy of using a battering ram since Seabas22 started it up. The great addition here is "redirect the momentum". Such an easy way to understand the 'throw a hammer' concept we constantly preach.
This is a great video. To be able to explain the shift and brace move is not easy, I have seen a few videos trying to explain it, but nobody has been able to connect all the dots properly - love the examples you use to help understand leveraging the correct sequence and motion. FIVE STAR INSTRUCTION!
Just found this after "nailing" some drives the past couple weeks, but they're always coming out off to the right despite a good reach back. Thanks so much for the channel and excellent video explanations! Gonna try to go out and apply this today.
Super video!! So funny that your dog came running in after you gave your secret "ah hah moment". It's like he was warning you "Dude the pro disc golfers are knocking on the door and are saying "Hey we know your in there giving all our secrets away". "Hide the camera there on to us". Your very insightful and I cant wait to start throwing again in snowy NY. Thanks again!
holy shit thank you so much i just had a lightbulb moment too, you are right I wasnt thinking about the disc like a heavy object, but the faster an object moves the more force it takes to redirect it, even if the object in question is light.
What I think, doing the x-step as a beginner is doing more harm than good. I have started to believe that the purpose of the x-step is only getting the body into a "spring" and then the weight sift and right foot plant is only there for "triggering the spring" to unleash like a bat out of hell. However what I have noted, is that when doing the x-step walk, it seem to be harder to get my body into a loaded spring position than if I just do as you did on the video; rock momentum back and for in stand still and then just a short step forward with my right foot and boom! So, I think, that one must master this stand still momentum back and forth -shift BEFORE implementing the x-step. Anyone else having the same thoughts or am I just totally in the woods? Thanks again for the great content!
I've taken a break from making videos for discgolf. They take quite a bit of time and energy and I've been working on body building and that takes most of my free time.
Brilliant Jason. Your beard is looking especially epic, BTW. Did you see the Feldberg clinic that Infinite put up last year for about 3 days before Dave made them take it down? He was talking about this. He was saying that you can't allow the left hip to follow around and take a big step forward after the hit. This isn't bracing. He was saying to keep the left leg behind the hip, driving forward, and long after the hit, the left hip can be allowed to turn out. It means hitting the hip hard, and allowing the hip to continue moving forward in the brace.
When you were talking about the disc coming out of your hand at about the 10 o'clock position Where is that in relationship to your target or where are you aiming? Is the target at 12 but you are releasing at 10? Or Because you are releasing at the 10 o'clock position you account for this and put your target also at 10 o'clock?
thanks ive been waiting for a new vid, been killing the beto drills, gonna work footwork now cause of this, thanks. Where is this DG forum you speak of ?
It's tought to know what's happening without seeing it - but common issues are that you're planting too open or you're leaning too far back in the backswing.
joshua ammer best option In my opinion is to post up some video at discgolfcoursereview, in the forums under form/analysis. Great community there will always help.
I'm pretty adamantly anti-facebook. I know google (youtube) and instagram (facebook) are equally problematic, but after the wild proliferation of Cambridge Analytica - and fallout of that nightmare, I called it quits and haven't looked back. I suggest killing off Facebook, it was the best thing I've done with social media.
Amen! Get off the Facebook and get on the Disc golf course. I'm trying to get our local college to put in a DG course (could probably put 4/5 huge ones the land they own). Students take a break from the computers and clear your mind for an hour and go huck plastic! I would have loved to have a DG course on my campus. Of coarse it's falling on deaf ears.
So would you say you aren't even really thinking about bringing the arm around? When I do what you're doing, it feels as though once I'm braced everything just naturally comes around very quickly with perfect timing. I'm just really getting my arm into the right position so that when I "fall" it comes around and extends out wide.
Yep, there's very little need to guide the disc into your center chest - as long as you verify that you're keeping the hand on the outside of the disc. You don't want to end up dragging the disc forward, you're loading it into the center chest.
You don't stop the shoulders at all, the shift itself will open and the arm opens and there's no more holding onto the disc from that point. It will be gone - the forces created and redirected forward will rip the disc out.
@@loopghost correctly planted feet -> correctly opened hips -> correctly opened shoulders -> correct hit point which is exactly were loopghost is saying! I learned this form watching pros 8 years ago and it took a while to learn and get a feel for it, but once you do accuracy and power are automatic
This was such a game changer for me! Since i saw it I improved a lot. Dunno if you read this, but I'd like to use your video to translate it into german language. Is that ok?
Ah moment! All this time I've been having the back leg come around because I thought that is what you do. NOT. After seeing Kevin Jones more and more, I realized his back leg does not even come to parallel to the front of the tee box most of the time. And it's not because of foot drag. He is swinging into the brace almost straight toward his line of flight. No chance of rounding when your not spinning like an ice skater.( A swinging Olympic hammer throw proves this. They don't release while twirling about. They brace at the last second then release). He crushes it. Its because of his excellent bracing. You don't actively try an spin your hips. They turn as the arm comes through. Otherwise your all herky jerky. Just like in baseball, you come into the front leg and swing. You don't bring the back foot around and head toward the pitchers mound. My throws feel more compact and feel like there's a lot of energy stored then released at impact. Now I can see how these guys throw 400-500ft shots. When I was bringing the back leg around, there is no way I'm going past 310'. Thanks for these excellent thought out videos.
Exactly mark. Keep in mind that the angle of your upper body and your follow through also impact where that rear hip is going. If you're throwing anhyzer, the rear hip needs to come forward so that your upper body can follow through low (on the plane that you're throwing on). just don't want you thinking that you "never" want the rear hip coming through. Good stuff!
@@loopghost Good point! Hey great video with Danny Lindahl! Do you get chances to play in tournaments? I was just in my 1st one. MA 50+. Was nerve raking but finished mid field. Thanks for all you do.
I was playing my home course and trying some new techniques. I was getting about 100 feet of extra power but the disc was going towards the 2 o'clock direction. Now I get it. I have to step farther out so I'm left foot toe to right foot heel or even farther maybe? This is great info. Thank you.
Tyler Bruce do the drill with something heavy like a bench or hammer and see where your feet end up. That’s a good place to start with the amount of offset.
I honestly think this video right here is the best technique break down on the Internet.
Always good stuff, Jason. The rest of the world may think we're crazy for spending this much time thinking about how best to throw a frisbee, but at least we have each other.
Its self betterment at the end of the day. Also with Cornhole competitions on ESPN, Im not totally convinced that the rest of the world has the best taste in sports. :) Happy hucking!
Man this is pure gold for us noodle arms, or more accurately, noodle legs, hips, and core.
I'm a beginner... all of my longest throws are always "over rotated" past my line and this concept in the first few minutes is the only time I have ever seen anyone actually explain why. Thank you - lightbulb!!!
Amazing light bulb moment!! Thank you! Why does it have to be winter and raining?!? I need to put this into real practice before I forget. I really appreciate these videos. No one on TH-cam breaks down the brace and weight shift like you do. I've been slowly building up an understanding, but I haven't been able to truly implement it physically like something in my brain was locked, but this video just totally triggered it for me. I had to go pick up a 30lb dumbbell like that bench and pretend to throw it. Bam, brace!!! My man!!!!
This explains why I have experienced a few “grip locks” that accidentally fly 80+ feet farther than expected - since my body is in a more properly braced position. Same amount of power felt in my throw from an effort standpoint, but more efficiently ejecting the power into the disc from better bracing. This off-season is going to be the best time to be working on this as I know it will probably take some time to adjust, but will be well worth it. Thanks for the video and always look forward to your content!
This happened to me too! I threw a valkyrie 430 feet. But it was a good 30 degrees off to the right. Now I know why it went so far compared to my "on target" drives
still getting stuff out of this video! Woot! Amazing how much you have in this video which can be missed.
Good info, looking forward to practicing this motion. I always feel like I have plenty of arm speed and power, yet something still falls short. (That something is my disc, haha) Thanks for the vids, I like your delivery.
This is truly excellent content.
Serious light bulb video. Thank you so much Heavy!
This is the culmination of a lot of recent discussion. Great video.
This paired with the information about the upper body being a more static frame are probably the two things people should know EARLY in learning the backhand.
"upper body being a more static frame". This is something I'm finally grasping, and it's keeping me from having 'bad days' where the disc just doesn't seem to come out with speed. Concentrating on keeping my shoulders and hips square and connected to one another helps a ton. I've started reminding myself to 'stay tight' and 'keep my shoulders high' and it cleans up a lot of slop in my throw.
I'm with you. I've got all this stuff down, but I just naturally like to get out of balance in my reach back.... so I'm trying to drill that out of me. Still hitting 400-425 with pretty much zero issue consistently. Feels so good.
@@drkevns Yeah, I float around 375' when things are going bad, and am hitting 400' consistently when they are going well. They are going well more often since I've started focusing on posture more. I'll have a week here and there where I break through to 425-450 range, but it's always short lived.
That's awesome! I can get to 450-475 on distance lines pretty often lately, but my longest golf shot is a destroyer hyzerflip to about 425. Balance is probably the single most important thing most people aren't talking about as much as they should. SW knows of its importance, and Rhatton has a few great videos I've referenced many times in my "studies." But most people want to talk about what their arm should be doing... in reality, it's one of the least active parts of the throw!
Right now I have a really great handle on my form, but my off arm is really inactive. I've been working on getting it more involved (Drew Gibson style swim move) but my balance isn't fully engrained yet so when I start thinking about something new it starts getting back to old habits. I'll probably just start getting reps in and focusing on balance until it's muscle memory/natural and then get back to the off arm later. I'm not hurting for distance in tournaments right now so I think balance is probably the better focus for me.
I'm hoping to get back into recording my form every day and getting my form thread going on DGCR (I just bought a house and should be able to start throwing in the garage soon-fuck field work in the winter). It'd be awesome if you took a look when you get a chance after I get it up. I've been following your stuff for a while now and I feel like we're on a similar level when it comes to form work. At the very least, I can have a discussion with you and not feel like I'm explaining concepts. I know that sounds dick-ish but a lot of the form check comments come from guys who don't understand a lot of the core concepts.
@@drkevns Preach on lots of people talking out of their ass, lol. The thing that helped me get the off arm under control is trying to throw with my arm pinned to my hip. After watching guys like Kevin Jones, Calvin Heimberg, and James Conrad, I notice how the arm is extremely tight into the body, and the movement away from their body happens slightly and is fluid with the movement backward and forward. Keeping that backward and forward movement as one consistent move became really easy when I started thinking about keeping it pinned to my body (which it doesn't really do because of momentum. I think it's really hard to replicate guys like Drew, GG, even McBeth, because it takes perfect timing and balance to pull off their style.
This video came to me at the perfect time. I was just out in the field yesterday trying to keep my feet from turning around while doing the X step, and trying to keep them perpendicular with the long side of the tee pad while stepping diagonally on the plant step. This makes so much more sense! Thank you!!
This explains a lot for me... I think. When I get my best throws they always seem to take a rightwards trajectory. I always thought I was addressing this problem with my foot placement, but I haven't been adjusting my weight shift direction with me feet. I'm a tall skinny guy, so I sometimes get the feeling that I have to generate more power by pushing off my back foot than other normal to heavyset people. I'll have to reincorporate the up to down transfer like you mentioned. Thanks!
Between your videos and Citysmasher, things are starting to make sense. Thanks Heavydisc!
Just stumbled onto your channel by mistake and your ways of explaining the backhand are incredibly useful and are something I have been looking to find for a long time! Thank you for sharing!
I just got mindblown. 🤯 Good stuff
What a great layman's terms explanation and analogy. This is something I've been struggling with for so long and you made it seem so much easier. Thanks!!! And I'm glad you didn't start swinging scissors.
This is amazing.... And something I've been wondering after watching one of Simon's vlogs and notice how far in front his brace foot is. Can't wait to work on this more
Enjoyed this, excellent description
I'll have to keep this in mind and give it a shot. Thanks for the tip.
Omg a buddy got me into disc golf and I happened to stumble on your videos. I used to ball golf and for some reason it never occurred that the brace and hip/leg motions were so vital to generating power in the disc. This video really made a lot of things click and I'm excited to try them out. Glad I subscribed!
Thanks a lot man for putting this video on youtube!!
Earlier I threw almost only with my arm as you show at the beginning of the video and felt like need to strain muscles to get the disc to fly 50-60 m. Then I saw this video, started to think about the weight shift and now a week into practicing it, the disc flies 80 m (sorry, can't think in others than SI units :D) but what is even better than the distance gain is the fact that it feels so easy and effortless compared to the earlier throws!
3:36 - Coolest dog owned by a disc golf instructor. :)
The single biggest mistake in disc golf is a total failure to brace.
And a bent plant leg is not a brace, it is literally a suspended and collapsed structure(!), the total opposite of a brace.
I am 100% convinced, after 34 years of disc golf, that the plant leg must be straightened during the smash, as it braces, increases traction and grip, as well as rotating the hips faster, by pushing the right hip backwards along the Line Of Play.
I have added this plant leg extension to my standing and x-step throws, and it adds huge power.
It also means it's easy to no define the disc golf backhand throw: It is a centripetally-assisted un-punch. And it informs the timing of the smash perfectly.
I absolutely love the analogy of using a battering ram since Seabas22 started it up. The great addition here is "redirect the momentum". Such an easy way to understand the 'throw a hammer' concept we constantly preach.
This is a great video. To be able to explain the shift and brace move is not easy, I have seen a few videos trying to explain it, but nobody has been able to connect all the dots properly - love the examples you use to help understand leveraging the correct sequence and motion. FIVE STAR INSTRUCTION!
Just found this after "nailing" some drives the past couple weeks, but they're always coming out off to the right despite a good reach back.
Thanks so much for the channel and excellent video explanations! Gonna try to go out and apply this today.
Super video!! So funny that your dog came running in after you gave your secret "ah hah moment". It's like he was warning you "Dude the pro disc golfers are knocking on the door and are saying "Hey we know your in there giving all our secrets away".
"Hide the camera there on to us".
Your very insightful and I cant wait to start throwing again in snowy NY.
Thanks again!
love how you break this stuff down, your channel has great content loopghost!
holy shit thank you so much i just had a lightbulb moment too, you are right I wasnt thinking about the disc like a heavy object, but the faster an object moves the more force it takes to redirect it, even if the object in question is light.
This was amazing. Light bulb went off
Know a fellow daughter daddy when I see a place like that lol. Great video!!
You the best, gotten so much help from your videos
💡 moment!! Love this!!!
This is amazing - thank you! Going to implement this in to field work asap.
What I think, doing the x-step as a beginner is doing more harm than good. I have started to believe that the purpose of the x-step is only getting the body into a "spring" and then the weight sift and right foot plant is only there for "triggering the spring" to unleash like a bat out of hell.
However what I have noted, is that when doing the x-step walk, it seem to be harder to get my body into a loaded spring position than if I just do as you did on the video; rock momentum back and for in stand still and then just a short step forward with my right foot and boom! So, I think, that one must master this stand still momentum back and forth -shift BEFORE implementing the x-step.
Anyone else having the same thoughts or am I just totally in the woods?
Thanks again for the great content!
Makes total sense. I'm gonna give it a go. Thanks for the tips.
I just realized you're the Bill Nye of disc golf. That voice and cadence is unmistakable.
Michael from vsauce is a better fit
This is awesome!!! Do you make these videos anymore??
I've taken a break from making videos for discgolf. They take quite a bit of time and energy and I've been working on body building and that takes most of my free time.
Great video!!
6:40 is the magic trick
one of my favorites
This explains why my longest drives are always far off right of target
Brilliant Jason. Your beard is looking especially epic, BTW. Did you see the Feldberg clinic that Infinite put up last year for about 3 days before Dave made them take it down? He was talking about this. He was saying that you can't allow the left hip to follow around and take a big step forward after the hit. This isn't bracing. He was saying to keep the left leg behind the hip, driving forward, and long after the hit, the left hip can be allowed to turn out. It means hitting the hip hard, and allowing the hip to continue moving forward in the brace.
Hah - thanks the beard is going full winter mode! I did not see Dave's video, bummer that he made them take it down.
I watched Eagle McMahon on 300ft hole#3 at GMC 2020 and his back foot stayed back for so long!
*The brace is what allows you to transfer momentum from your lower body to the upper body and then to the arm
God, your camera is crazy clear
When you were talking about the disc coming out of your hand at about the 10 o'clock position Where is that in relationship to your target or where are you aiming? Is the target at 12 but you are releasing at 10? Or Because you are releasing at the 10 o'clock position you account for this and put your target also at 10 o'clock?
Benjamin Lockhart the target is at 12. Release happens with arm pointing at 10.
thanks ive been waiting for a new vid, been killing the beto drills, gonna work footwork now cause of this, thanks. Where is this DG forum you speak of ?
Permaculture Homestead discgolfcoursereview and check the technique forum
My big issue is that I tend to lean over my brace. Any thoughts on how to fix that?
It's tought to know what's happening without seeing it - but common issues are that you're planting too open or you're leaning too far back in the backswing.
Do you review form for casual golfers like me? Been really working on these concepts because of seabass, you, and brad walker videos.
joshua ammer best option In my opinion is to post up some video at discgolfcoursereview, in the forums under form/analysis. Great community there will always help.
So there's a growing discussion regarding this video on the disc golf form check Facebook group, any interest in adding to the discussion?
I'm pretty adamantly anti-facebook. I know google (youtube) and instagram (facebook) are equally problematic, but after the wild proliferation of Cambridge Analytica - and fallout of that nightmare, I called it quits and haven't looked back. I suggest killing off Facebook, it was the best thing I've done with social media.
@@loopghost great video, I can't wait to get out to the field
Amen! Get off the Facebook and get on the Disc golf course.
I'm trying to get our local college to put in a DG course (could probably put 4/5 huge ones the land they own).
Students take a break from the computers and clear your mind for an hour and go huck plastic!
I would have loved to have a DG course on my campus.
Of coarse it's falling on deaf ears.
So would you say you aren't even really thinking about bringing the arm around? When I do what you're doing, it feels as though once I'm braced everything just naturally comes around very quickly with perfect timing. I'm just really getting my arm into the right position so that when I "fall" it comes around and extends out wide.
Yep, there's very little need to guide the disc into your center chest - as long as you verify that you're keeping the hand on the outside of the disc. You don't want to end up dragging the disc forward, you're loading it into the center chest.
How do you make sure that the release point is 10 o'clock? How do you stop your shoulders opening too much?
You don't stop the shoulders at all, the shift itself will open and the arm opens and there's no more holding onto the disc from that point. It will be gone - the forces created and redirected forward will rip the disc out.
@@loopghost correctly planted feet -> correctly opened hips -> correctly opened shoulders -> correct hit point which is exactly were loopghost is saying! I learned this form watching pros 8 years ago and it took a while to learn and get a feel for it, but once you do accuracy and power are automatic
This was such a game changer for me! Since i saw it I improved a lot. Dunno if you read this, but I'd like to use your video to translate it into german language. Is that ok?
Sure - no problem. Glad the video is finding a German home somewhere!
@@loopghost Great! THX! :)
So, the only difference is instead of stepping in the front, I should step off to the side about 45degrees?
he's saying 20
Simon lizotte bracing style.
tennis single hand back hand. very similar example of a disc golf back hand.
What is your DGCR user name? Mine is Olorin
HyzerUnibomber
Ah moment!
All this time I've been having the back leg come around because I thought that is what you do. NOT.
After seeing Kevin Jones more and more, I realized his back leg does not even come to parallel to the front of the tee box most of the time. And it's not because of foot drag. He is swinging into the brace almost straight toward his line of flight. No chance of rounding when your not spinning like an ice skater.( A swinging Olympic hammer throw proves this. They don't release while twirling about. They brace at the last second then release). He crushes it. Its because of his excellent bracing. You don't actively try an spin your hips. They turn as the arm comes through. Otherwise your all herky jerky.
Just like in baseball, you come into the front leg and swing. You don't bring the back foot around and head toward the pitchers mound.
My throws feel more compact and feel like there's a lot of energy stored then released at impact. Now I can see how these guys throw 400-500ft shots.
When I was bringing the back leg around, there is no way I'm going past 310'.
Thanks for these excellent thought out videos.
Exactly mark. Keep in mind that the angle of your upper body and your follow through also impact where that rear hip is going. If you're throwing anhyzer, the rear hip needs to come forward so that your upper body can follow through low (on the plane that you're throwing on). just don't want you thinking that you "never" want the rear hip coming through. Good stuff!
@@loopghost
Good point!
Hey great video with Danny Lindahl!
Do you get chances to play in tournaments?
I was just in my 1st one. MA 50+. Was nerve raking but finished mid field.
Thanks for all you do.
mark humphrey has been years since I played... maybe 2014?
Makes me wanna go throw a bench at some chains
I was playing my home course and trying some new techniques. I was getting about 100 feet of extra power but the disc was going towards the 2 o'clock direction. Now I get it. I have to step farther out so I'm left foot toe to right foot heel or even farther maybe? This is great info. Thank you.
Tyler Bruce do the drill with something heavy like a bench or hammer and see where your feet end up. That’s a good place to start with the amount of offset.
loopghost your videos are inspiring and extremely helpful
loopghost could I send you a video of my form sometime and have you check it out?