Bill, I have a 990 too and love the bike, but it is a bit top heavy. A steering damper would be required on ours for sure. The bikes he rode have a considerably lower seat height and smoother power delivery.
Neil's spirit is infectious! 24h on those bikes on that terrain and he's still all smiles and jokes. I would have been ready to bite heads off! Hope to see you in the Dakar again soon mate.
Watching the first half of this I thought, well, the track couldn't be that bad for a 24 hour race. Halfway through I'm like, shit, that's a brutal track. Water crossings, legitimate hill climbs, rutted out mud dual tracks, rocks; man that's brutal.
Wow, you won with a stock bike. Congrats! To think people still talk smack about KTM reliability these days. 24 Hours of torture and the KTM didn't quit. Speaks volumes to the doubters.
I was never a doubter and believe they are just as reliable as the Japanese brands. I've looked around the web on/off and have found many machines with TONS of HARD miles. Just much more expensive!
This actually proves literally nothing on Ktm’s reliability. A 24h race with a single pilot is not hard on the machine, it is just extremely hard on the man. Each of the 2 bikes had to run a 12 hours event at a regular and say spirited pace but relaxed enough for the pilot to actually make it to the 24 hour mark; that is about it. 48 lap for 15 miles is 720 miles divided on 2 bikes. The only thing it actually proves is that a new bike from Kim can run 360 miles at a somewhat spirited pace. Not really impressive, not really debunking anything.
Yeah, it's "talking smack" when a brand new 1290 adventure ends up on a trailer... Or when a brand new 890 Duke is sitting for 2 months because something failed. Twice. LOL.
He's not riding a KTM enduro...he's on 2 different adventures. Look all around him in the race...nothing but dirtbikes. The KTM adventures aren't designed to run that hardcore. The fact that pieces weren't hanging off it at the end of the race is a testament to how far KTM reliability has come. People who don't own KTMs are the ones who complain about reliability based off one or 2 people's posts on some forum. I personally own a superduke gt and 690 Enduro r and haven't had a single issue with either. I have lots of friends with KTMs with the same experience. People who talk crap about Ducati or KTM probably haven't ever owned one recently, or just can't afford one and wanna hate.
That is crazy, and I don’t want to quibble, but wouldn’t “24 hours” be Dawn to Dawn or Dusk to Dusk? A dawn to dusk race, at least in this hemisphere, would be appropriately 108 minutes. That I could do. Maybe.
Congratulations! :) I'd be interested to know your opinion on what factor contributed most to your win. I know it's a combination of bike, rider, support etc., but to win on what most people would consider to be the "wrong" bike is quite an upset ;) Do you think that heavier, more powerful bikes might in fact be superior for this kind of event (in these dry conditions)?
Tbf, this course is mostly fireroads. The worst thing to deal with when it's dry like this is either the dust obscuring vision, punctures due to the rocks and speeds you can get or getting into daft races with team riders if you're an ironman. However, when it's wet there's a couple sections that cut between fireroads that cause difficulties when there's traffic although the organisers remove sections if the 24hr riders are struggling on it. There are "hard" "shortcuts" but honestly, it's faster to just nail the regular track. I've seen Africa twins get round fine along with kx85s. I, on my Mx bike came 9th in ironman 12hr one year with one eye (lost a contact), collapsed subframe, 3 punctures and rode on a flat front tyre for 4hrs . Came back the year later and had 4 punctures and ended up 5th. I consider myself a shite rider, especially back then, but I was fit. Tldr, it's the rider. The bike doesn't matter much around here. Unless it's valley extreme. 890 at that race here I'd like to see!
@@BikeWorldTVshow Hmm, ok. Would've wished for more details on the strengths and weaknesses of the two bikes in this setting. Sit-down follow-up video?
Depends on the rider, if the same rider rode both bikes then a small dirt bike would eat a big adventure bike for breakfast, and judging from the footage in the video the track wasn't even difficult.
What, had to use two bikes because one KTM wouldn't make it without breaking? And if you rode through the night, you might want to re-assess the "Dawn to dusk" title ....
Alright David, chill out. To start with we used two bike so one could be prepared ready, and the 890 would be a bit easier to ride at night. Dawn to Dusk is not just the title, it’s the name of the event, it used to be only 12 hours. Happy?
I must be getting old! No way would I consider doing that on my 990! Too big and heavy, yet here you are making it look easy on a 1290! Well done!
Bill, I have a 990 too and love the bike, but it is a bit top heavy. A steering damper would be required on ours for sure. The bikes he rode have a considerably lower seat height and smoother power delivery.
Unbelievable effort Neil. Well deserved that win. I was dying of boredom around 4am.
Thank you mate 🤘🏻
KTM, "you took it easy running it in?"... BW, "sure, we just took it round a field for a bit".
HAHA rocking up on a big KTM and winning nice job!
Neil's spirit is infectious! 24h on those bikes on that terrain and he's still all smiles and jokes. I would have been ready to bite heads off! Hope to see you in the Dakar again soon mate.
Thank you I had great fun 🤘🏻
Nicely done, for sure the 890 seems the better choice considering the size and weight
Which makes it a worse choice for a "look at the crazy thing we did" video.
"Bonkers! Absolutely bonkers!"
Insane skills & stamina
Thank you 😊
Watching the first half of this I thought, well, the track couldn't be that bad for a 24 hour race. Halfway through I'm like, shit, that's a brutal track. Water crossings, legitimate hill climbs, rutted out mud dual tracks, rocks; man that's brutal.
Οκ
It was pretty tough ! But fun
Wow very impressed! 👏👏
Cheers!
24 hours! That’s very impressive!!! 💪🏻👍🏻
Cheers it was hard work
Great work💪
Damn fine effort Sir!!! Congrats on your win ;)
Thank you 😊
24 hour race?!?! Count me in🤩🤩🤩 2-3 different bikes too 😪👌🏾
Wow, you won with a stock bike. Congrats! To think people still talk smack about KTM reliability these days. 24 Hours of torture and the KTM didn't quit. Speaks volumes to the doubters.
I was never a doubter and believe they are just as reliable as the Japanese brands. I've looked around the web on/off and have found many machines with TONS of HARD miles. Just much more expensive!
This actually proves literally nothing on Ktm’s reliability. A 24h race with a single pilot is not hard on the machine, it is just extremely hard on the man. Each of the 2 bikes had to run a 12 hours event at a regular and say spirited pace but relaxed enough for the pilot to actually make it to the 24 hour mark; that is about it. 48 lap for 15 miles is 720 miles divided on 2 bikes. The only thing it actually proves is that a new bike from Kim can run 360 miles at a somewhat spirited pace. Not really impressive, not really debunking anything.
Ah, but you also have to bear in mind an Enduro event in Wales was dusty... Just sayin.
Yeah, it's "talking smack" when a brand new 1290 adventure ends up on a trailer... Or when a brand new 890 Duke is sitting for 2 months because something failed. Twice. LOL.
He's not riding a KTM enduro...he's on 2 different adventures. Look all around him in the race...nothing but dirtbikes. The KTM adventures aren't designed to run that hardcore. The fact that pieces weren't hanging off it at the end of the race is a testament to how far KTM reliability has come. People who don't own KTMs are the ones who complain about reliability based off one or 2 people's posts on some forum. I personally own a superduke gt and 690 Enduro r and haven't had a single issue with either. I have lots of friends with KTMs with the same experience. People who talk crap about Ducati or KTM probably haven't ever owned one recently, or just can't afford one and wanna hate.
I have never seen such utter madness in all my life! Baked beans? Cold baked beans, straight from the tin? I tell you, it‘s insane.
WTF - Neil totally cheated!!! All those baked beans = massive turbo boost.
That’s the secret 😝
Nice work. Looks like you got good weather this year. I hope to back next year.
Wow! that is some endurance riding. Well done.
Thank you 😊
Outstanding!
Congratulations, brilliant achievement!
👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Riding in the dark without light on the helmet!!! Impressive to last 24h!!!
Very very well done, Congrats dude
Thank you 😊
Legend! You weren’t even out of breath on the commentary!!!
Hahaha I didn’t talk too much lol
Absolutely amazing stuff!
Thank you 👊🏻👊🏻
Good effort boys and girls👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
48 x 15 mile laps = 720 offroad miles. Have I got that right?? Sweet Jesus... I need a lie down just thinkin' about it.
You are a MotoStud Sir! Amazing!
I love this, more please! 😊
Wow. Amazing rider, great bike.
👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Awesome effort team! Masterclass!
🤘🏻🤘🏻
If he liked it he should try the #Gripendygnet" a 24h enduro race in Sweden 🙂
Sounds fun I’m interested 👍🏻
holy cow the guy at 11:27 with the bullhorn is the rider that went with charley boorman on his dakar attempt. his name escapes me
Nick Plumb.
Best air filter ,goggles & headlight wins.
incredible ride! Nice work
Thank you 😊
Good stuff on that heavy bike ! We never used to eat while doing an enduro ?!?! Lots of fluids but never eat.
Holy shit can't believe you guys won!
yes lad 🔥
What happened to your KTM Adventure project bike?
it's finished, we're working on the vids.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Absolutely Great!!!👍
@@BikeWorldTVshow Perhaps this weekend?.😊👍
Considerably better headlight than an EXC 😃
Yeah definitely 👍🏻
Bloody good show…..
Oh god filmed me running! 🤦😂
Badass winner!
That is crazy, and I don’t want to quibble, but wouldn’t “24 hours” be Dawn to Dawn or Dusk to Dusk? A dawn to dusk race, at least in this hemisphere, would be appropriately 108 minutes. That I could do. Maybe.
Excellent effort ✊✊
Respect! 🙌👊
👊🏻👊🏻
24hours, fuck that. What’s the point! 5 hour enduros are brutal enough!
Did you set up the suspension or go box stock internals?
Totally standard 👍🏻👍🏻
Lol and he won!
How in heck did you do that? Like someone said here before. BONKERS!
Congratulations! :) I'd be interested to know your opinion on what factor contributed most to your win. I know it's a combination of bike, rider, support etc., but to win on what most people would consider to be the "wrong" bike is quite an upset ;) Do you think that heavier, more powerful bikes might in fact be superior for this kind of event (in these dry conditions)?
I’d say the big factor is ‘the rider’ makes ‘the bike’ 👌
I think it’s safe to say you’re a sandwich short of a picnic along with all the other riders and all the better for it 🍻
🤣🤣🤣🤘🏻
Madman! Well done 🤘
Thank you 😊
What happened to the muffler? 1.28 , it had 2 holes then down to one? 1.44
Different bikes, one 1290 and the other 890. That’s so the bikes can be prepared between sessions.
@@BikeWorldTVshow That makes sense, you did very well indeed.
great job fella
Well played.
Top ride bud 🤘🏻
Hero!
I'm pretty sure if this guy rode a KTM 450 he would still win the race.
respect
L O V E D it!!!
How many tins of beans did you go through?
why was that bloke near you at the start just sleepwalking? :-)
If anyone under any circumstance say adventure bikes are useless show them this video and tell them to shut up!
They ain't useless it's just not the thing they are very good at.
Tbf, this course is mostly fireroads. The worst thing to deal with when it's dry like this is either the dust obscuring vision, punctures due to the rocks and speeds you can get or getting into daft races with team riders if you're an ironman.
However, when it's wet there's a couple sections that cut between fireroads that cause difficulties when there's traffic although the organisers remove sections if the 24hr riders are struggling on it.
There are "hard" "shortcuts" but honestly, it's faster to just nail the regular track.
I've seen Africa twins get round fine along with kx85s. I, on my Mx bike came 9th in ironman 12hr one year with one eye (lost a contact), collapsed subframe, 3 punctures and rode on a flat front tyre for 4hrs . Came back the year later and had 4 punctures and ended up 5th.
I consider myself a shite rider, especially back then, but I was fit.
Tldr, it's the rider. The bike doesn't matter much around here. Unless it's valley extreme. 890 at that race here I'd like to see!
Neil, 1290 or 890?
1290 when I was tired as it was softer and more comfortable and the 890 when I wanted to do well 🤘🏻
Was that Nick Plumb?
Yep
Shouldn't it be called the dawn to dawn race if its 24 hours?
Switched bikes? 890 & 1290 So one bike didn't make it all.
Fucking hell!
Does this mean that the GS isn't the perfect off road bike?
They are bloody good tho
Who was the lucky chap who had to wash those machines before handing them back to KTM🙂
Hahah me 😛
How was he allowed to switch back and forth between bikes?
It's all about the rider and not the bike, there are teams of 2 and 3 that also enter.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Hmm, ok. Would've wished for more details on the strengths and weaknesses of the two bikes in this setting. Sit-down follow-up video?
@@TheUrbanEpicure We've already done at 1290 vid: th-cam.com/video/F1UdCuDudA8/w-d-xo.html we're shooting the 890 next week.
u should ware a mark for the dust, bro
You just sold me an 890r
so where are those guys saying big adventure bike can't beat smaller bike on dirt?
Depends on the rider, if the same rider rode both bikes then a small dirt bike would eat a big adventure bike for breakfast, and judging from the footage in the video the track wasn't even difficult.
More like Dusk to Dusk? Its 24hrs
It used to be a 12hour race 👍🏻
@@neilhawkermotolife3653 well done for winning!
What, had to use two bikes because one KTM wouldn't make it without breaking? And if you rode through the night, you might want to re-assess the "Dawn to dusk" title ....
Alright David, chill out. To start with we used two bike so one could be prepared ready, and the 890 would be a bit easier to ride at night. Dawn to Dusk is not just the title, it’s the name of the event, it used to be only 12 hours. Happy?
@@BikeWorldTVshow Chill out? I made a comment in the "Comments" section, that's what it's for.
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