My Pokémon Opinions that have Changed
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Tempted to get this but saw I have to pay £58.64 for the first 3 years...😬
@@maganhassan2627Wtf did you expect for 3 years? 1$ each year? 😂😂
@latayesha4035 bruh...I thought I just pay £1.50 a month & cancel ANY TIME I LIKE...🤦♂️🤣
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Man I remember when gen 5 was considered the worst generation.
Back then I was a minority with that generation as my favorite. Now I am part of a majority.
@@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elfyea same here
I still rank it pretty low, but not the worst.
@@gligarguy4010it’s widely agreed to be in the top 3 gens
4th gen is widely considered the best
Then it’s generally agreed that gen 3/5 is second
now it's the most overrated generation
BDSP were actually very special games. They were released in 2021 but were leaked all the way back in 2006. I don’t think you can name any other games that did this.
One of the most remasters of all time 10/10 perfect amount of water 💦
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Took me a couple of seconds to get this. Nice one.
I like bdsp itlooks really clean
@@a_deadman_with_questionsit’s the exact same game
I love how the fandom change their opinions overtime. People used to hate on Trubbish or Chandelure but ive seen people call them cute or eveb respect and love Chandelure's power.
The fandom is so fickle they'll change opinions all the damn time
@UncannyEXP I kind of like it though. I think one we all can agree on is the annoying attention Gen 1 gets
Chandelure was voted the most favorite gen5 mon
People are indeed so fickle
@sinnohperson8813 according to the poll Snivy was in number 4 which baffles me since people love Oshawott
Chandelure has always been cool but trubbish is literal trash
As one of those people who was waiting years for gen 4 remakes my disappointment is unmeasurable
I fear for the black and white remakes now
@@gamerhead473I don’t want remakes for my favorite gen(5) I want either black and white 3 or legends kyurem
@@gamerhead473i actually wouldn't mind the chibis in the b/w remakes, depending on how they do it. if they did it like bd/sp, then no.
also they better not remove the battle subway. i need my train twins
@@AzraelMightlegends are extremely overrated
i was expecting it to look like sword and shield, semi open world you know? And then the trailer played
Crabominable has been growing on me too. It's design is a lot to absorb, but I can appreciate how this thing was designed to explain yeti sightnings in a funny way.
I ended up using a crabominable in USUM and I loved using it
Sounds interesting
Can you explain
@@sinnohperson8813 I used to think the foot pattern on its claws was a really dumb design element, and maybe it is, but it's funny to think of someone seeing the claw impressions in the snow and wondering what's running around up there
i would love to love crabominable, but sv pu has ruined him for me.
@@energeticgorilla Maybe I'm uncultured here.. but I honestly don't understand what you mean by "pu" 😅
I always preferred Zamazenta over Zacian. Zamazenta actually looks like wolf combined with a shield whereas Zacian just looks like a wolf holding a sword.
Okay please don’t hate me but I find zacian cooler than zamazenta especially I nickname mine wolfcaliber in my playthrough Of sword version
@@shadowdragonemperor4250 ah yes,someone else who appreciated zacian
@@shadowdragonemperor4250 yeah true
For myself, I always had preferred swords over shields, and so I had naturally gravitated over to Zacian as my preference -Pokémon Sword version.
I find that I was probably much more fond of swords because it would get me feeling active, whenever I would wield one in a videogame, and I just sort of l liked feeling active; while with when it comes to purely shields, that suggests a much more passive role. And when I was younger, I just didn't like the idea of that very much.. I guess the idea of having the presence of a sword in my hands, and the feeling of being able to just walk stuff with it, appealed to me much more.
So yeah, that's why I decided to choose sword version, as I was more so fond of swords and that’s what I wanted to base my selection on. But that was a couple years again. And Nowadays, I honestly feel like Zamazenta is much cooler, and even has an excellent name as well!
@@Mr.Feather130
Wolfcalibur.. that's honestly such a cool name, good job on that.
The thumbnail is a perfect representation of how everyone felt about bdsp
I mean the games in my opinion were a call back to my childhood, but it got a little boring after beating it.
they were better than HGSS, in BDSP we can atleast catch the Platinum mons in Grand Underground and they made the Elite Four more competitive and made Cynthia even harder, in HGSS Johto mons like Houndour are still only available in Kanto and still has that weird level curve, the Champion battle in HGSS caps at lvl 50 ffs
@@theamazingspooderman2697HGSS fans not gonna like this one. I also agree tho
@@comics4556 u bet, only improvement that game had was that we can find Larvitar before Mt. Silver but that too is after beating the Elite Four I believe, even the walking pokemons were such a disappointment cuz they all had the same walking animation and same walking speed
@@theamazingspooderman2697 nothing but pure fax
Honestly, Espeon has always been my favourite eeveelution purely just because of how perfect its design is
Its so simple yet so fitting
As a kid i drew her a lot even giving her my custom mega evolution as well as an ultra form, my favorite eeveelution from the very start
Oh no... Even though I DO love Espeon... I have to say... My favourite Eeveelution is Umbreon!
I like that Umbreon is both cool and cute. But I do admit, that I like Espeon, and I have used it more often than Umbreon in recent games, so I definitely like using it.
It seems I don't get the chance to use Umbreon for whatever reason. Maybe I'll make a more conscious effort to use the little dark type.
@@BakaTaco same with Umbreon, he's my 2nd
If only it had a good shiny. I hate the green. Umbreon blows it out of the water in that regard
@@jakejake11112 yeah they should introduce neon shinies or even better RGB shinies
Deoxys is definitely supposed to be red, since its based on the DNA base codes ACTG, which are red, blue, green, and yellow. This is supported by the fact that its shiny is green and yellow. I think the only reason it looks kind of orange is because the Pokemon art style loves using super desturated/lighter colors in general. There are plenty sprites from mainline games where its color leans way more red than orange. I think its just an inconsistency thing.
I'm sorry my friend, but whatever it's based on... it's still orange. They desaturated the red so much that it's no longer red. And just because they base it on something doesn't mean it's entirely that thing. As he showed, Charizard is only a few shades lighter, like Gengar vs its shiny, and Charizard is orange.
The anime made it red, it's just entirely different colors.
(Although orange looks better, personally)
@@RadiantSharaShaymin Charizard being a few shades away from Deoxys does not in turn make Deoxys orange. There are shades of yellow that lean close to orange but aren't orange, the same way that there are shades of red that lean close to orange but aren't orange. To me, Deoxys is just an orange-leaning red, like Vermillion and I'm certain that was the intention
Yeah this is completely correct. The better comparison for official artwork and every other piece of media would be the Rotom phone. It's official art looks orange-ish but it is definitely red everywhere else, just like Deoxys. Anyone saying otherwise just wants to be a contrarian.
Yeah no it’s not supposed to be red. Sometimes Pokéball art look more orange than red, but there’s always another version that’s very clearly red, but Deoxys looks orange all the time, no matter what.
insane coping
I think shiny Pokemon being "more common" has helped me like them more. I remember back in the earlier gens, I never found a wild shiny Pokemon outside of Gyradose. Now, I've run into at least 1 or two, especially in Scarlet and Violet per playthrough. I think it helps for people who aren't going to dedicate hours to shiny hunting Pokemon get actual shiny Pokemon in their playthrough
On the topic of Shinies, I just got one in Pokémon GO!
I agree I like shines but O don't want to waste months just to get one that barely changes or looks ugly and shiny Pokémon are still rare or at least uncommon so they are still special
yea, I kinda agree. like, I really didn't like or appreciate some Pokemon until I got them as a shiny, and then I was more invested in their moveset, what pokeball they were in, if I could get them with a Mark or not, etc. So that's nice.
Maybe its the ppl who literally have careers in shiny hunting that make shinies feel less special to some.
It was really fun to see a shiny qwilfish in pla because i had never seen a real one in a first playthrough since a geodude in platinum, and i had planned on using an overqwil. But then in the same game i caught like 5 other shinies since there was nearly always one in a swarm. i think i'll always catch shinies i see, but unless it's a pokemon i havent used, then its going in the box. If i had found them when i was younger then i probably would have made full teams out of them, but with 1/8000 i only ever found one geodude.
pokemon taking a break would be amazing but lets look at it like this. every gen there are new pokemon released. with these, there come new plushies, new cards, new figures, new episodes in the anime revolved around them. the whole company is dependent on new pokemon every few years so they can keep this chain of marketing going which kinda sucks
I guarantee you we are going to get an announcement for Gen 5 remakes that will come out in 2024 followed by Gen 10 in 2025 with DLC for that game released in 2026, then Gen 6 remakes in 2027 and repeat until the world ends.
And the games will only get worse and worse until some drastic changes are made at The Pokemon Company. Pokemon is a forever doomed franchise, which is why I switched over to Persona for my RPG monster hunting fix.
it's actually pretty easy to resolve this issue. They should do the Madden / Fifa model where they have 3-4 groups of devs working on new titles. so that each dev group gets 3-4 years to work on a game. Pokémon makes so much money that this should be easily done tbh. they get more time to make better games, the games sell more and they still get to market plushies and new pokémon like they want to. it's pretty simple
@@zacharylandrum4789why are u acting like the previous games were the best things ever? DP were trash, Gen 1 and Gen 2 games were trash except FRLG, Emerald was the only good Hoenn game but still had dumb villains who couldn't even guess that Groudon is red in color so it would need the Red Orb, B2W2 were the only good Gen 5 games, Gen 9's story is literally better than 99% of the previous games
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Gen 9 was a broken and unfinished mess. I love the game, but the story is about the only thing making it better than other games. If you come to Pokemon for story, you are in the wrong place (although i do agree diamond and pearl sucked).
@@theamazingspooderman2697 When did I ever say that? You are projecting so hard right now. I personally don't like Gen 1, 2, Ruby/Sapphire, Diamond/Pearl, Gen 7, Gen 8 AND Gen 9 because there are a lot of things in those specific games that just hinder the overall experience for me. Especially with the modern games (Gen 7 and beyond).
If you can't accept that the newer games are extremely flawed, you need to go touch some grass. It's fine if you like them, but I just think they could have been a lot better.
I love seeing people giving Ludicolo some love because I love Ludicolo
Grass/Water is amazing
Amazing typing and design 👍
Can't avoid getting crit at the worst times tho
Agreed. Between Pokemon Coliseum/XD and Emerald, I fell in love with Ludicolo. They're just just such happy dancing buddies.
@@amore_peribat yes
I used to think Ho Oh was cooler than Lugia. But after hearing the story of Takeshi Shudo it's creator and writer of the first three Pokémon movies. About how Lugia was intended to be exclusive to the Pokémon 2000 movie and was only included in the games thanks to a delay on Gen 2 and how the creator saw Lugia as a maternal goddess of the sea and life and became depressed when the studio went against his wish and gave it a male voice. All that definitely made Lugia much more interesting to me as the only Pokémon who was created outside of the games and is tied directly to the tragic story of a man who shaped a lot of our childhood.
I've recently started seeing people praise the Alola games much more now. People called me crazy for calling those games great, and now here we are.
The only issue with Alola is the amount of cutscenes. Everything else is fantastic, and it's probably my third favorite Gen before Sinnoh and Hoenn.
One thing I do hate about Alola is how USUM completely butchered SM's story. Especially Lusamine and Lillie's dynamic
I think that Scarlet and Violet are some of the best pokemon games ever. In seven or eight years, this opinion will be much more appreciated.
@@williamkaplan1430 fully agree story wise. It being rushed and a buggy mess holds it back. I do miss actual evil teams too. We havent had one since gen 6
Even though it isn't my favorite Gen, I think the recent Gen 2 hate is condusive to what I dislike about game criticism nowadays, even down to creating every discussion about said game in such a dour or cynical way because its seen as the way to be "critical" when a lot of issues people point out about the game in the many video essays I've seen are problems the games as a whole have had or were overarching problems of the first 4 Gens that make me wonder if I'm even playing the same game. And for every positive step newer games take with QOL, they take steps back to fight itself in every other game, outside of Gen 5 I don't feel the series ever reach a fully formed generation. Even competitively I find less fun too!
I'm just not a fan of the overly critical, yet cynical approach people take toward reviewing games now. Namely older titles, everyone always acts as if you have to be overly negative with emotional rants that turn vitriolic. like yeah, I believe in being critical, because part of critiquing a form of art is to look at all sides. But people can be critical without turning the discussions into dour vent sessions on discord or every platform. It has made engaging with older games unfun and often just amounts to a series of echo chambers who repeat the same thing over again. They also have this weird defense mechanism for other games when they bash certain games too. It isn't fun to watch or engage in.
I feel like people don't even know what they like. Every time I go online I always find that opinions have changed drastically on something. Gen 2 imo is still great, gen 2 and 5 have always been my favorites, gen 2 because of how it feels, I still enjoy that classic adventure on your own feel, I love Johto as a region, the culture and everything, it also has my favorite ost in the series (followed by gen 5's) it has so many optional dungeons if you go out of your way so Ive always loved it for how non linear it was, etc etc
Gen 5 on the other hand might be super linear and story heavy but gameplay wise its peak pokemon for me, especially B2W2, I also love everything from it, music, dungeons, culture, but I also really love the gym leaders, and as controversial as this may sound gen 5 still has best dex imho, most of my favorite pokemon are from gen 5 including my favorite legendary (Reshiram) although my number one favorite pokemon it's from gen 6 lol. And I could easily go on but this comment is getting kinda long.
But yeah I kinda agree. For me I see it as people targeting the wrong thing when people should focus on hating the subpar products we have now instead of yelling at the past, I've seen so many people give a pass to swsh and SV yet they slam previous gens, yes none of them are perfect and I have criticisms about all of them but tbh gen 1 to 5 all seem like complete products compared to everything we have now. People are way too inconsistent.
@@Rex13013 strange, i have seen the opposite, expecially in the italian fandom, people hating the new generations and saying the older ones were the best. Seriously, i asked under a video "which starter are you gonna pick? I will pick quaxly", and the first answer was not even an answer to my question, it was a guy telling me "how could like quaxly's evo it's so ugly". Like dude, calm down
Gen 5 wasnt more "fully formed" as a generation though it was full of its own issues and lacking things, even replacing core elements like bases and contest etc, not creating anything etc, nostalgia cIown, and I say this as someone who liked it while being older while playing it, so not blind nostalgia like you, the newer hate for 2 and wanking for the ones you grew with are the same way genuners cause the praise for 2 before and hate for 5, its genuners and later ds toddlers like you not coping with your subjective feelings caused by nostalgia and need to prove its objective and feel validated by having everyone agree as a fact. You got salty that older gens got criticque yet will do the same sort of subjective wanking to newer stuff, its entirely rose tinted glasses and not objective
I used to hate Ash because he never took the easy route of using his old pokémon and was too sentimental by letting his strong pokémon go. But now I sort of feel like I was wrong this whole time. He did it his own way and sure he could've won sooner but he did what he thought was right and followed his own path knowing he would achieve his dream. He sort of showed us all not to give up. Good on him 👍
@@shadowdragonemperor4250 he literally talked about changing his opinion on Ash lol was near the end of the video...
I feel the opposite way. I always thought he was ok, I at least liked his progression from gen 1 to 4 was believable (except for Tobias' existence lol) and I even like his showing at the sinnoh league, but after that his character just took a huge dip, he became really inconsistent, his teams weaker and all over the place and his final wins just came out of nowhere and felt unearned because of all his previous baffling decisions as a trainer.
@@Rex13013 I liked watching the anime as a child (althought i never watched alla the episodes), but after playing pokemon for the first time, and learning the type chart, i noticed that ash was dumb (seriously, pikachu against serperior at the league??), so i stopped watching it. I am now reading the manga and it's much better
@@persian338my man, the type chart has as much relevance in the anime as the writers want it to have.
@@Lissy_YT481 yeah lmao I remember Metagross getting damaged by a poison attack or Mega sceptile losing to a Water attack😂😅
I love how he used Mikey’s for the Miltank bit lol
Same
7:26 That second list can’t be real. There is no universe in which *Whismur* is the 11th most voted Pokémon
And Cinccino 2 and Swadloon 6??? 🤣
It was mostly japan voting
You’re so right about going into Pokémon presents hoping to see no games since the release schedule is really hurting the quality of the recent games. Can you imagine how much better legends Arcues would have been if it was released in Nov 23 instead of late Jan? And how much SV will be better if they released it in Nov 24?
They should just port over the old gens for awhile and take a few years to make a banger of a game
As soon as I saw Miltank, I knew exactly where that was going . MBF was definitely my favorite series on this channel. I think my favorite part about it was the juxtaposition between both your commentary compared to the traditional way of commentary and the juxtaposition between that series and your other videos.
Have any of you ever just... stop liking a favorite pokémon?
Sceptile was my favorite as a child but the more years pass, the more indifferent I feel towards it.
For me, that was with Flygon.
For me it's been Toxicroak. Used to love that guy but now it just doesn't hit the same 😔
@@g1ngerbred723 Oh yeah, same here.
klink is mine
I loved Flareon as a child (Pokefan since gen 1 here), but now... it's still just a poofier version of Eevee with not really good moveset.
I used to watch you a lot in 2016 when I was 11 but stopped…now I’m 18 and I have to give you big props for maintaining such a big following after all these years. You deserve all the praise. Loved your content and glad to see you still making them like you do👏🏻
The thing I never will understand is why ppl really expected Game Freak to keep the National Dex forever, Gen 9 already made the total a thousand Pokemon and thats a thousand Pokemon they would have to code into every single future game
And ppl dont realize that
They’re also co owners of the biggest IP. They have a few bucks and some time to spare.
Because as time goes by we are also getting more and more powerful consoles so at this point a console like the switch should handle 1000+ Pokemon when the 3ds were able to carry like 800 Pokemon in USUM
Also the problem wasn't on the dexit itself but rather that the devs said it will be a cost for better animations, game quality etc., which is a lie. They just reused the same Pokemon animations from the 3ds games, the gameplay is still pretty much the same as before with little to no innovations, voice acting is still absent, and every Pokemon switch game so far has wii level graphics
I wouldn't expect to keep them forever. However they should really have reached 1000 Pokémon in a single game before making dexit happen. Making it happen when they did with Sword and Shield was way too anticlimactic.
I think a lot more people would have been okay with the idea after reaching the impressive milestone of having 1000 creatures in a single game. Just like how most Smash fans are okay with the idea of the next Smash game not having every characters after the insane roster Smash Ultimate had.
For me, when I first saw meowscarada, I hated it for the fact that it turned bipedal. But after using it as my starter in Violet, it has become one of my favorite starters ever. Can anyone else relate? Or am I just weird?
I loved her at first sight!
Don’t worry fam your good. I myself wasn’t a fan of Meowscarada at first until I used it in game
Meowscarada, or rather its first form (I don't remember its name, haha), was actually my first choice.. and I personally prefer its design much more than the other 2 apex evolved starters from Scarlet and Violet. In addition, I also really like its signature move, as I could dish out guaranteed critical attacks :)
So yeah, I don't think you're weird about that, as that's ultimately my favorite of those 3 starters!
@@djdrizzy9139 Likewise, for myself.. but maybe not like that. ;-;
I just kind of thought they were really cool.
I loved it the moment I saw it but I was still disappointed that it became bipedal. I was really hoping we'd finally get a quadraped cat starter but of course Game Freak decided to make it bipedal this gen. Even tho every grass starter stays on 2 or 4 legs throughout its evolution but they stopped that trend this gen. Kinda sucks but I still like it's design tbh. I just love it more and more. I still wish it was quadrapedal :(
The only thing I’d say with nicknaming people is that if you’re going through a new region it’s sometimes hard to remember their actual Pokemon name
People?
Honestly i always loved Gen 5. It has so many memorable pokemon like Haxorous. Krookadile. Darmanitan. Hydreigon. Zoroark. And so many more
Ever since I got a Poliwhirl plush and read the manga, Poliwrath has been my favorite Pokémon. But I also really love Chardizard and Mewtwo out of Gen 1. I like a lot of Pokémon out of every generation (or at least 1-8, I haven't played Scarlet and Violet yet). Garchomp, Pangoro, Sceptile (and all the Hoenn starters), Decidueye, Grimmsnarl, are some standouts of their respective generations.
To be fair the second poll was Japan only and Dedenne won because some big Poketuber or person their it was their favorite so people made it into a meme
Thanks for the context
i love dedenne
hes so cute
Still shows you how you shouldn't always take polls too seriously.
Person: "Let me get this straight. You think BDSP are overhated?"
Me: "I do and I'm tired of pretending they're not"
A recent Pokemon opinion of mine that changed involves a story with Sprigatito in my Scarlet playthrough. I wanted to box my starter ASAP as I did not like the starters in this gen, especially Sprigatito with it's final evolution. I lost a bet and had to pick it, so I was very upset. I couldn't find a good Pokemon to replace it with so it just... became a main stay on the team, but I still resented it.
But... During the Champion Nemona fight when it was just my Meowscarada left, I kinda... stopped hating it and grew to at least respect it as it just destroyed her last two team members with ease. This is why you don't judge books by their cover.
I’d love it if Game Freak dedicated more time into Scarlet and Violet even after release. They have a lot of potential, but not all of it has been fulfilled. Also I’d love a Pokémon Platinum remake because it’s my favorite.
They won't remake Platinum bc they never do it with 3rd games
@@justjoannakTechnically Pokémon Let's Go is a remake of Pokémon Yellow, so you're wrong.
You could play Luminescent platinum, a rom hack of BDSP based on Renegade Platinum. Made the experience 100x better.
i absolutely love the music in pokemon, and i enjoyed your videos about it a lot! would love to see an updated one since your opinions changed
Please bring back the metronome battles again. Those were my favorite pokemon videos ever on TH-cam. You winning with miltank was peak entertainment
The Finals did felt anti-climate when that Devil Cow got Imprison.
Thank you so much for mentioning gen 5
It was my first ever Pokémon game, and I’m super nostalgic with it, and I also just think it has one of if not the strongest story of a mainline Pokémon game. Also the Pokémon are the best looking in my opinion, and I think they get way too much hate.
I used to hate Samurott with its quadrupedal design and highest stat being Special Atk despite having a moveset that's mostly Physical based. With the release of its Regional Form, some issues were mitigated and now the *Dark Ronin* became my favorite Hisuian Starter.
No you dont think that, its called nostalgia. The ones whod rage at it were having blind nostalgia too, they were called genwunners, now the kids who grew with the ds behave the same as they did, pretendign this group of rpg games with similar quality to later and earlier entries is divine and perfect while everything else is terrible for some weird excuse. Ds babies are just genuners but born in the 00s
the fact you try to wank the story while other games had story focus too and in that it was just a wall of text of n acting nonsensical because his arguments couldnt work without making the trainers evil is good enough reason to show "my first ever game" is all that matters here, you have babie memories and confuse them with quality. Its not a bad game at all, but neither it is overhated or overrated, just raged or wanked at by different generations of narcisists depending on wich game they grew with
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I used to really not be big on gen 5, but now i really like it. I still like gen 6 more than anything because nostalgia bias lmao.
Also in recent years, I've grown to like pokemon TCG more than basically any of the videogames
3:28 DAMM now I know why mandjtv hate milktank so much
I was team Sobble but after I saw Inteleon...I was even more team Sobble. Its so cool, and I don't get the hate for it
Same here
What confuses me is people hating it for supposedly looking weird, gross, and not lizard like at all... And yet heralding Cinderace as the best.
Honestly, Inteleon is the only one of the Galar starters I like.
@@captaindemozan2700 that confused me too, especially because Inteleon looks like a lizard. It's pretty much a basilisk lizard mixed with a chameleon that acts like a spy
Meh I am more of a cinderace type of person despite some people are mixed about it
I was Grookey Gang, but changed to Sobble Squad as soon as I saw Inteleon (ended up picking Scorbunny on the first playthrough for Leon to have his Mr. Rime, but my more played playthrough was with Sobble). I loved Inteleon, never stopped defending its design, and it got a respectable place as my third favorite Pokémon behind Ultra Necrozma and Falinks. Then one day I did the favorite Pokémon picker, and realized that Inteleon became my favorite pokémon without me even noticing.
I'm glad the starters I picked for the last 2 gens (scorbunny and sprigatito) were the ones whose evo I liked the most in the end
Same here. I love Scorbunny and Sprigatito's evolution lines from start to finish.
I still much prefer Raboot but Meowscarada grew on me a lot. Skeledirge still miles better though
The reason people don't like Gen. 2 anymore is:
1. There was a video essay saying it wasn't very good, and people will immediately make up or change their mind if a TH-camr says something
2. A lot of people who are older now are Gen 5 kids who haven't even played the games and think that anything on the Game Boy is "outdated".
The only thing I'll agree on with Gen 4 being the best is that it does have the best game, it's just not any of the mainline ones because they're all pretty mid.
I've played those games. And those seriously have A serious issue: AWFUL LEVEL CURVE. Seriously, the level just doesn't scale properly during the midgame making the lategame very grindy, because of course it's best to make the trainer with a level 33 Feraligatr face hordes of level 17 Rattatas and Zubats. Clair was fine but the Elite 4 was not, the rocket plotline was boring, and so was Pryce because of him being the 7th gym in my playthrough.
The punches were cool but making mother a waste of money was not, which thankfully got fixed in the remakes (The choice scarf is worth all those useless berries and potions). The rival was too easy after an actual hard fight in the 2nd one, specially the ones who picked Totodile, and the new pokémon were way too few, and most of them sucked AND were ridiculously difficult to obtain, or in case of houndour, POSTGAME ONLY. Also got cheated by the slowpoke tail seller, but that's on me. The TMs were definitely a big downgrade of gen 1 as well. Is also tedious but it's to be expected in gameboy; at least it no longer obligates me to catch mons to get good items and has a functional exp. share. Is not the worst because that title goes to gen 8, but is tied for 3rd worst with gen 7.
Very much appreciate your love of Koraidon. It’s not exactly on any of my favorites list but too many people have hated on it.
Koraidon has an awesome shiny. The red and gold bands go nicely with the black color scheme. Hopefully, they'll release it
I personally think Koraidon when standing up in his battle pose looks great and even magnificent. When you ride him and he just has a big circle thing that's supposed to be a wheel, that looks dumb
@@adhamwashere5320 It’s a lizard throat pouch. Cyclizard has one too, it makes them look like motorcycles. Then on Koraidon it turns into an actual wheel because it’s the future.
@EpicRandomness555 miraidon's actually makes sense cuz it actually becomes a wheel. koraidon's would only get in the way of it being an effective mount. It just looks dumb imo
8:27 When I pick a starter pokemon, I personally stick with them until the end.
I remember watching your videos so many years ago! Your voice hasn't changed lol (i think its nice)
I used to watch you all the time in like 2016. Now hearing your voice is so nostalgic to me good to see your still doing good
When sun and moon was new I was team popplio and it's still one of my favorite starters today. Many fans made fun of us for choosing it instead of litten. Let just say it was glorious seeing their reaction to litten's final evolution from the leaks. Thank goodness it not a fire/fighting.😂
"PLEASE MAKE A STARTER THAT DOESNT LOOK LIKE ITS FIRE-FIGHTING"
@almostnamedone6069 We do have that now though-
@@haillemichels9486 ik but both cinderace and incineroar loo fire-fighting. still funny
@@AlmostNamedOne Cinderace looks more Normal or electric to me.
ayy fellow popplio enjoyer! when i first played through moon my brother made fun of me for picking it over rowlet or litten but man did primarina be a good team member
Bdsp aren’t bad games, just terrible, terrible remakes.
Well they asked for a remake of Diamond and Pearl. They just should've said what they really wanted was a Platinum remake.
@@primrosevale1995 Even if it was a Platinum remake it would still be a bad remake, it would be Platinum but worse the same way bdsp is DP but worse. A remake is supposed to add things to the game, not outright copy and paste it while breaking stuff in the process.
@@tabbender1232 Nope. By definition a remake is "a video game closely adapted from an earlier title, usually for the purpose of modernizing a game with updated graphics for newer hardware and gameplay for contemporary audiences."
It's weird to me people didn't like Black and White, I absolutely loved them and I think they aged gracefully
i still dont like them bc of the art style, too much black lineing
I feel like fans were really immature back then and only judged games based on the new Pokémon within each game. And I got to agree Gen 5 pokedex is kind of weak with a lot of Pokémon that tried to replicate the feel of Gen 1 Pokémon without much success. But the games have so much more to offer than just that and Black 2 and White 2 made it a lot better be bringing old Pokémon back into the mix.
@@wintersong2266 People bashing gen 5 is for me one of the biggest mistakes the fanbase has ever made in the series. It made gamefreak stop trying to do experimental stuff for a really long time, and until recently they finally tried something different with the legend series. (Gen 7 is an anomaly of itself since they changed the game structure pretty significantly)
I'm love the fact that me and Auraguardian have the same fav pokemon - Infernape, Lucario, Dialga and Koraidon and ofcourse the love for Gen 4
I really used to like the 3D models too but recently I’ve been playing through black and white 2 and I really wish they could go back to the animated sprites because it made Pokémon like excadrill and Charizard look so much more threatening
If we get animated sprites I want them to be like the ones in Mario and Luigi rather than the ones in BW. With natural movements instead of the grainy artificial rotations.
I'm still disappointed with what they did to my boy excadrill with 3D models, he looked so cool in gen 5.
The problem isn’t that 3D is somehow inherently worse than 2D. The real problem is that it’s much more expensive to make over 10000 3D Pokemon models look dynamic, and Game Freak is cheap.
They never had to animate them doing moves in 2D. If they had, I guarantee you they would’ve looked bad back then too
Typhlosion. Gen 5 Typhlosion to Gen 6 Typhlosion is criminal. For some reason he completely loses the fire on his back for his idle animation.
@@Iliketrainskidclone - That’s because he was always meant to only have the explosion when attacking.
I swear I am a reverse pokemon fan... I loved Gen 5 (especially the sequels) but I actually dropped out of the fandom for Gen 4... I still don't like them...
“I think every Pokémon fan would be okay waiting 5 years”
We tried telling everyone this 4 years ago in June 2019, but people didn’t wanna listen. The fanbase wanted to have a schism instead
My recently changed opinion was my favorite type being Fire but after doing that same sheet that made you change Leafeon to Espeon, I realized far more of my favorite Pokemon are Fighting types, especially with new additions from Pokemon SV in Great Tusk, Koraidon, and Annihilape. I've realized being Fighting type allows for far more variance in design and concept compared to Fire and as the Gens went on, more and more dope Fighting types came and influenced my preferences
Unpopular opinion:
When I think of how much I like Pokémon designs, while the newer generations are good and certainly more out-there, I always think of generations 1-4 first with some gen 5 designs. Could it be because the newer Pokémon feel more like character designs than animals? Perhaps. Is it because I grew up with generation 4? Perhaps. Could it be because some designs are hard to love without investing time to understand their origins? Maybe. But it could be just that I prefer the direction Pokémon went in with their designs with not only the main series games, but all the fun side-games too. Mystery dungeon, Pokémon Ranger, and even seeing their official art on websites made me exited since I could obviously not get every Pokémon in Platinum. You don’t really see side games for people to get attached to the newer Pokémon anymore.
You mentioning the side games reminded me how much I really want a new Mystery Dungeon (I WILL take a remake of Explorers), and Ranger.
I adored Explorers of Sky. I still play it now, and I've been using a randomizer to add something to each play through. Brilliant idea too, one that I highly recommend!
As for Ranger, the games obviously worked well on the DS and the stylus was perfect for it. However, I would love a new Ranger game, and it's long overdue. I don't see it happen, but I really want to be proven wrong.
I was on Team Sobble from the very start, and after seeing the final stages, my choice didn't change.
It should have changed
I remember when I first ever encountered a skiploom. It was pokemon battle revolution, me and my older brother were playing it, however the skiploom a random trainer had stopped us in our tracks thanks to it's powder moves.
I always held a grudge on Skiploom until I eventually used a Hoppip (Nicknamed Skiploom) and went through the whole of Scarlet with it. That was the day I gained a whole new respect for it and it's evolution line. Skiploom is one of my faveroute non starter mons now.
I definitely relate to the Zacian one. Didn't happen until Unite, though, since I don't really play competitive battles in the mainline games. Some other opinions that have changed is that I used to dislike Delphox, but it grew on me, and I began liking it. I was originally on Team Litten when Sun and Moon was coming out...then I noped out when I saw Incineroar, and I switched to Team Popplio. I love Primarina way more.
10:11 Ok incoming rant because I’m sick of hearing that Gen 2 is a lower tier Gen. In this essay, I will present the case that Generation II is one of the strongest generations with one of the single greatest impacts on the franchise.
Point 1. The Split
- In Generation 1, Special Attack and Special Defense were one stat, the Special stat. This led to a massive imbalance favoring Special Attackers like Alakazam or Exeggutor. Generation II saw this imbalance and split the Special stat into two: Attack and Defense. This made the game far more balanced to the point where now a Pokémon with a sky high Special Attack stat doesn’t also live any Special hit.
Point 2. Psychic
- I don’t need to go over this, everybody is aware of the much needed nerf of the Psychic type in Gen 2.
Point 3. Moves
- A lot of moves introduced in Generation II have become staples in modern battling. Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Belly Drum, Crunch, Steel Wing, Baton Pass, Curse, Destiny Bond, Encore, Extreme Speed, Giga Drain, Hidden Power, Icy Wind, Protect, Mach Punch, Megahorn, Mirror Coat, Morning Sun, Moonlight, Outrage, Pain Split, Perish Song, Pursuit, Reversal, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, and Synthesis. Not to mention balancing out other moves like Recover which had 20 PP in Gen 1. Moves were a huge part of what makes Gen 2 so great.
Point 4. Pokemon
- Generation II began the trend that we see to the current day, power creep. Sure Generation 1 had some impressive stats, but Gen 2 put it to shame. Pokémon like Scizor with a sky high attack stat that it can actually take full advantage of, Steelix with unheard of defense, Blissey with unreal HP, and Umbreon with incredible Special Defense. The power of these Pokémon is undoubtedly unmatched by any Gen 1.
Point 5. Mechanics
- And lastly, Generation II is the source of a great deal of mechanics that have stayed true to this day. Friendship, breeding, weather, and most importantly, held items are all from Generation II. Friendship while not the most popular mechanic has allowed for new evolutions to old Pokémon that have become beloved, like Sylveon and Crobat. Breeding is central to competitive play. It allows players to be able to get the most desirable traits in order to get the best possible Pokémon for battling which cannot be understated. Weather to this day impacts battling to the point where entire teams form around weather conditions because they are just so impactful. And lastly held items define Pokémon. From Nuzlockes to competitive to regular play throughs, held items cannot be understated. And it all began in Gen 2.
In conclusion, Generation II is far from the worst generation. Rather it is the reason that Pokémon exists the way that it does or even at all. Gen 2 was supposed to be the last generation of Pokémon. But due to its success, Pokemon went on to become the most successful media franchise of all time. Generation II is one of the most impactful generations, and there is no sustainable argument to the contrary.
Not reading all that. I'll say that Gen 2 made some much needed improvements from Genwun and is an objectively better game. The level curve is kinda fucked, but it's not that big of a deal. People make a mountain out of that molehill.
Plus it's 2023. I'm pretty sure you can mod Gen 2 to have better progression. Or do that with the remakes.
@@espurrseyes42 But I spent a whole four minutes of my life on that 😢… the TLDR= The Special Attack/Defense split was good for balancing, Psychic got a much needed nerf, the new Pokémon were balanced but power creep was still present in a healthy way, the new moves were much needed and remain staples to this day, weather, breeding, friendship, and most importantly held items are the best things to be introduced in any generation thus making Gen 2 necessary to the franchise and one of the strongest generations hands down
8:06 - 8:28
never happened to me, never will
the only starter I regret having was during Gen 3, here’s what happened:
I picked Torchic during my first playtrough in Ruby when i was a middle schooler, my friend decided to borrow the game and reset it so he can play with Mudkip and returned it to me, and I was deeply frustated, so I pick Torchic again in Alpha Sapphire first playtrough, then I picked Treecko later to try out different approach while decided to never touch Mudkip ever again due to that
I have strong determination when choosing a starter, I never had any outside influence
for example
I picked Cyndaquil during my first Silver playtrough, and I keep choosing it in Heart Gold, Legends Arceus, heck even in Emerald and ORAS where it became starter choices
same goes with Squirtle and Piplup
and about the recent generations, the only leak I was exposed to was Sword and Shield, and the first time I saw Scorbunny, I was touched and determined to pick it, and then Scorbunny final evo got leaked, it exceeded my expectations and I love it even more
same goes with Litten and Sprigatito, I don’t care what people say about them being bipedal or furry, I only saw 2 strong Dark Cats, and as a cat lover, I love them
the same reason for Snivy and Froakie as well
i love scorbunny and cinderace, because cute, and also cinderace plays soccer/football
I saw myself frame one of the video. This is awesome
I mean red & green was developed for 6 years & while that game is popular they got multiple problems 🤷♂️ longer development time isn't everything I can argue that can be worse than you think
Personally I don't think pokemon needs to be like other games but if the quality is improved then that's nice 🤔
@bruhmoment1548 bruh...🤦♂️ well I think it's a valid point not just in video games but ANY product look at Windows vista that took 5 years to develop & it got multiple issues to the point MANY people hate it so yes this DOES prove longer development time isn't everything & wasn't there a game launched a few years ago that had multiple issues that people gone on about cyberpunk 2077 it's called right? That had a long development time apparently 🤷♂️ red & green had a tough development & yet people loved it so I fail to see how I am wrong & why that's a bad example to demonstrate my point lol don't know why pokemon yellow is revalant here that's a different game though based on red & green
@bruhmoment1548 sounds like you're saying it's how you use that time with your skills & resources available to develop a product which is basically what I'm trying to say 🤔 it's just that people tend to think "oh this game made with 5 years development time means it's great"...I'm trying to show that's not always true that's why I said development time isn't everything while yes it's important you're not looking at the full picture there.
Regarding red & green, game freak & nintendo sort of got lucky really that pokemon got popular that time because those games from what I understand aren't perfect filled with bugs & other issues (no wonder why pokemon blue version in japan came out 🤔) but the idea & fun gameplay just clicked you get me? 🤔😂 pokemon could have died long time ago but luckily it didn't 🤷♂️
You got to remember that these games were made from point zero, they used those 6 years learning how to make a RPG and the whole Pokémon formula
I think the only other Nintendo published game they made for the game boy before Pokémon was the Yoshi puzzle game wich sucks
love the Avatar the last airbender and some my hero acedamia names at 6:33
I didn’t like incineroar when sun and moon came out, it was my second least favourite gen7 Pokémon. I’m a big cat person and was disappointed when litten, hoping it evolved into a cool quadrupedal tiger, evolved into evil Tony the Tiger. Although now still like the other two alolan starters more, incineroar is in my top 50 favourite Pokémon of all time. Basically, it as to do with being in smash. Even though i would’ve preferred decidueye, incineroar grew on me. Principally because of a character in alpharad CPCS series blue incineroar (winning two tourney in a row while being labeled as an underdog compared to regular incineroar narratively) and that later on playing as him in smash was pretty fun, definitely top 10 most fun characters to play in smash for me.
I feel like a fun video you could do is top 50 favorite pokemon characters from the game but its based on design only
As a dude who has BDSP on update 1.1.1 I have to say this was one of the most true to form Pokémon remakes we’ve gotten. We had a missingno glitch basically. And you found the real secret of Pokémon ……..nicknames.😂
I can relate with the Ash opinion change after watching the final arc of his journey
Made me remember all the emotions I went through watching him back in the day
Just wished we got a more complete ending and tribute to every character
I used to think Pokemon needed to go 3D, but now I want it to go back to 2D.
I used to dislike GSC before it was nitpicked, but I appreciate it now even more.
I have a theory that the female avatar in Crystal is related to HeartGold and SoulSilver's Executive Proton.
I believe Ash peaked in Sinnoh until I analyzed his entire team. He really sucked in that saga!
I once thought Dawn had a better arc than May, but nowadays I've come to realize May had better character growth and story pacing.
I used to love the real-time based data in GSC, RSE, DPP, BW and XY but now I have no patience for it.
10:48 absolute mood tbh! Happened to see that video as well and it made me wish for the main Pokémon games to go for that style 😮
“Is there a show or film you’re dying to see?”
The qBittorrent in my pocket:
5:51 There is one isuue however, Pokémon has a anime and trading cards that keep with the games. If they took multiple years off, those would either stop for years on end, or become very repetitive.
Man if only the games had some kind of post-game battle frontier stuff that the anime could leach off for a few years.
Anime, TCG, all them can take a break too. How can they expect to take these unfinished games and make something truly worthwhile out of them? Just slow down, I don't need more to be disappointed with.
Focus them on the side games.
I don't agree with the sprites thing, it's more that game freak doesn't put as much detail into the models as they once did in the sprites. It's not an intrinsic issue of the models, if game freak did put as much soul and care I to the models and actually used them to have cool animations and stuff, I think people would see it isn't just a "sprites were better"
i used to use nicknames as a kid but stopped as i got older. however i started again when gen 9 came out and i love doing it
As a kid I HATED the pixel art style, I thought it made the games look old, but as I’ve gotten older I really want them to go back to the pixel art style. It would look so beautiful and more vibrant
U were fighting MandJTV with miltank lol 😂
Unpopular opinion here, but DPPt is my least favourite set of games. I'm not saying they're bad by any means, but definitely the one I'm least lkely to pick up and play again
Platinum's goated tho, DP I agree
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Exactly, BDSP are disappointing because they're remaking Diamond and Pearl and not Platinum.
Woah Klefki love. That’s rare. I love to see it. It’s my second favorite Pokémon period, and sometimes I consider it as tied for my favorite.
My favorite eeveelution is vaporeon then the Internet ruined it for me
I like the models better than sprite, not gonna lie the sprite did have the retro charm factor with it.
But one thing I think is an unpopular opinion is I hate the battle circle platform in x and y where your Pokémon stands on, in the sprite era it looked fine but on models it looks terrible, so much so they removed it entirely in oras.
9:17 Deoxys and Charizard are definitely not the same color. Deoxys is the color of tomato soup after adding a dash of sour cream. Charizard is Kraft Mac n Cheese colored.
Honestly, I would like to see a stylized 2D animation if/when unova gets remade
Not necessarily sprites, but something similar to what Nexomon does, where they’re vector animations of the Pokémon but smooth lines. Happy medium between sprite art and 3D models for the game that first flexed it’s skills in fully animated sprites and 3D overworlds.
An HD pixel art style like octopus tg could also be cool, but personally I don’t find that style visually appealing for king play sessions, especially when docked on the switch. The pixel art doesn’t scale as well in higher resolutions
Gen 5 was easily one of the best generations we had. The story was amazing, the characters were complex, the settings were detailed and interesting. The thing that brought it down was that they went with a different design style for the pokemon. They went with more simplified designs and more pokemon based on objects rather than animals, which is what people focused on. All the other aspects of the game were incredible.
I have a theory, that Gamefreak changed their design philosophy due to the negative feedback gen 5 got at the time from the Genwunner crowd.
@@dimetrodon2250 That’s literally what happened. I believe sometime when Gen 6 came out, an executive of the company told Gamefreak to make it easy because “Kids don’t like hard games”
-"easily one of the best", subjective opinion treated as objective because youre too egotistical and desperate to validation to accept other opinions, its not, thats called blind nostalgia, the gens keep an average quality but CIowns like you pick the one you grew with to wank to no end, finding excuses in weird details while raging at earlier and newer ones for equaly petty bs, genwunners did the same by attacking 5 and praising 1-2 too
-characters were comples- as much as a teletubies episode, and I say it as someone who likes the game and without having nostalgia goggles to justify it unlike you
-the settings were detailed- no more than any later region, many later ones had a way stronger art direction even
"they went more simplified designs" literally a liar, as someone who likes them they had more lines and shapes and genwunners despised them being "overdesigned"
You are just a toxic narcisist much worse than the genwunners were as you had foresight and picked blind nostalgia, stop rationalizing lies as to why one rpg is so much better and all are much worse when the quality level remained the same and accept you just have memories of wearing a diaper playing it, kd.
@@rynemcgriffin1752 You are literally lying and has no source, the closer to that argument was iwata saying they cut some shortcuts in oras because kids but trlls used it to lie to attack newer games as ds babies are even worse than genwunners when it comes to that. Whining "its literally what happened" then lying misinfo is everything wrong with your type
@@rynemcgriffin1752 Also the other post was whining about the designs yet your imaginary executive was about difficulty, cant even lie right for attention
I can say that let TPC agree to let ILCA do half of the games, because you can see that they have a knack for graphics and would relieve GF from what TPC gives them to do. Whatever you say about BDSP, it's a very pretty game
the backgrounds are so cool and detailed, especially the Grand Underground backgrounds, whereas the 2D games just had a blank screen as a background
the pokemon center floors were so polished too
Agree
I've seen the games graphics and no, it doesn't look pretty. In fact there were moments in the game I thought looked ugly and awful. The routes with the mud and rain look especially terrible.
@@adhamwashere5320 don't use your opinion to rebuke someone else's, that makes no sense. I can just as easily say that they do, in fact, look extremely pretty, and now it's 2 against 1
@@TrovaoSmasher okay, but I still think the game looks ugly in places
As someone who loves crabominable, glad to see that u atleast dont absolutely hate it anymore
9:37 Red peaked early. Ironic given his favourite hangout spot.
My favourite pokemon is and always will be, Lugia. When Lugia appeared in the 2nd generation, it symbolized that the Pokemon world is huge and mysterious, still holding incredible legendaries. I will never forget the feeling of wonderment when I pulled her from a neo pack back in elementary school :)
I liked greninja instantaneously. I also liked hisuian deci. I also loved klefki and the abominal. I dont give all pokemon nicknames, i have to feel the nickname naturally. I also liked the pokedex cut because we always kinda had it. In addition to this players should be forced to only use new mons so they can develop a relationship with them.
Glad to say with both Sw/Sh and S/V I was grookey gang/ quaxly gang and did not change my choice. Rillaboom and Quaquaval were both easily my favourites of the evolutions
All true except for the National Dex. I buy second hand to keep the sales low. It's not the ultimate fix and it's a bit hypocritical, but since Pokemon don't want to change, we only have a few options.
I originally did not like sneasler from leaked images. In game though I became one of my favorites.
I used to think Piplup was the best pokemon. Now I know Piplup is the best pokemon.
i remember as a kid, hating on black and white. now as an adult, i view them as some of the best in the series
I am with you that the mainline Pokémon series should take a break for like a few years until we get one that’s polished and finished than the gen 9 games
I want remasters not remakes and especially not "faithful" remakes
I refuse to believe the second list of most popular Pokémon is real. Ain’t no way swadloon and magnemite made top 10, let alone top 5
It's so unreal I need to see the actual site for myself
The only major difference in gameplay to the diamond and pearl remakes are the Elite 4 is much harder than it used to be.
5:45 So basically what RWBY fans want
I never understood the dislike for gen 5 on its release. It had some of the best advertising (in the 5-minute animated ad for B2W2), it felt like a completely fresh direction to take the series (when first watching the opening intro, I thought it was a different game by mistake, but was happy when I saw it was still Pokemon), and a story/dialogue that actually felt like it was growing up with the fans (like Ghetsis actually threatening to kill/freeze you for interfering). True, not all the mon's designs were winners, but there were a lot of winners and a lot of designs that grew on fans, and it felt like Gamefreak was actually trying for this game, redoing all of the sprites for the more animated feeling of battle.
They didn't grow on fans, those fans grew up.
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I think it was just really different, from Team Plasma saying the core concept of Pokemon was evil to most pokemon from other generations not being present. Now looking back, it was a solid generation, we've been inundated with too much of the same stuff, and the different feel got folded into the main series (as an anecdote, I was on the fence about Gen 5 Pokemon, until I caught a Zorua in ORAS and I realised how well it fit into the game/Pokemon which is when I started liking it).
I think a lot of people hated it because they couldn't play with their favourites until the post game
@@persian338 I could see that. In retrospect, that was a very bold move on their part.
Notification squad, where ya at?
Here
That Cinderace connection was the EXACT thing that happened to me, I used to hate cinderace and even cancelled my raboot's evolution once, and now it's my favorite pokemon ever
My favorite Eeveelution was Vaporeon. Then GSC came out, and it will now always be Umbreon. Espeon's probably my #2, though.