Allez Sprint, my entry bike, still the most fun of every bike I've pedaled 3 friends have bought these since I got mine, there is something so pure about this bike, hard to describe
This video has an issue that I feel is a huge issue in the cycling world. Treating a $2500 bike as a “starter” bike. I must live on a tighter budget than most because my first road bike isn’t in that class. The thought that $2500 for your first road bike seems crazy. It’s also why I was able to buy a used bike in like new condition for 1/2 the price of a new bike. The monetary barriers to entry in this sport make it difficult for many to get into, and although this review was informative, I think like most, it misses the mark on the pricing for someone new to the sport.
Thanks for the feedback Erik. I guess it depends on the circumstance. I entered the sport at the age of 27, with a full time income and no family to feed. So my entry-level budget was $3,000 AUD. But you make a fair point. Thanks for the comment. Cam
In my bike club here in the U.S., many of the newest riders ride bikes nearer $1,000 with Sora or Claris groupsets. It’s not until they ride a year or 2, and know what they like and don’t like about their bike that they may end up with a bike nearer the class of a $2500 bike. Still solid info, just my experience.
I recently began riding bikes for cardio etc.. bought a $150 bike at Academy and hated it. So I went to a Bicycle shop and bought a $650 Specialized Crosstrail w/ hydraulic brakes. Absolutely love the bike.. To me, 650 bucks is entry level to quality. I will eventually get me a road bike in the $2000 range.. To me 1 grand to 3 grand for a bike is a mid-range, anything over 3 grand to 5 grand is high end and anything over that is absurd OR meant for the pros. Granted Im part of the general public, serious riders that race etc have a different view. So I think they forget that you can buy a brand new Harley Davidson Superlow for under $9000 , compare that to a Specialized Venge Bicycle that costs 11 grand!
Agreed. I spent about $500 building an old Trek Madone 6.5 and an extra $300 upgrading it to Dura Ace components, and it's way fancier than I need. My buddy built up his Madone 4.5 for just about $650, and another found a Specialized Transition for $800. All Canadian money. Cycling doesn't need to be super pricey.
I have an Allez Sprint Comp 2017...great bike. I just had to upgrade the crankset and brakes. it came with Praxis works crankset and Axis Brakes, now it is 100% 105 Shimano. Safe Ride guys.
Awesome vid. I purchased my first road bike 2 years ago, an Allez. Though second hand and getting long in the tooth now I can't fault it and now I couldn't imagine riding any other geometries. It's cool to hear that a serious rider like yourself like this bike enough to promote it. 👍
When I first saw the video, I was so in love and couldn't afford the Specialized Allez Sprint. 4 years later, the time has finally come and I will receive my frameset at the end of the month. The new Allez has a slightly different geometry and no longer the thick seat tube (which I find a bit of a shame), but I'm looking forward to building up the bike now in the off-season. I started with cycling almost 9 years ago with old and very cheap road bikes and have always dreamed of building a bike like this one day.
Thank you so much for your review of the Allez bike, as a entry level cyclist your review really gives me confidence to go for getting one Specialized Allez for myself.
Might also be worth mentioning the head tube length on the new venge is shorter compared to the Allez Disc. 153mm Venge vs 160mm Allez Disc (frame size 56)
I have the same bike and your right about the road fill, but once I put a nice set of carbon wheels and a lighter psi in my tires its definitely a better riding experience. I'm very pleased with this bike and it's a beast and a carbon killer. I've definitely noticed a lot of guys I raced up against have switched from a carbon Tarmacs to the Allez Sprints because of the aggressiveness of the frame. Great review by the way.
Really having a used specialized 2017 (previous owner only rode for only 200KM) and clocking for almost 15,000 KM for a year of use, I must say I impressed with the frame. I'm a heavy user and our road condition are not that forgiving pot holes everywhere, a lil bit stiff but the carbon fork absorb the vibration really well. For beginner, I think this would be a good frame for those who wanna start cycling, a great all rounder, I even done the audax 300 on this frame. Right now looking to upgrade my wheelset to fulcrum racing quattro carbon and change my groupset to ultegra so that the weight of the bike would weight less than 8kg. I think my next frame upgrade would be specialized allez again, can't seems to be separated with the brand
Nice work on the review and the 4 Check list items. I agree with your comments, as I have an Emonda SL6 and few weeks back completed a build with the Allez limited edition 2017 frameset, deep carbons as a 1X. In order to minimize road buzz (and this bike is unforgiving) I went for Ti rails on the saddle and Mavic UST rims, tubeless 28c running 65 psi.... its very smooth ride now and by far the best handling bike I have ever owned, far superior to the emonda. I would not recommend this bike to a newbie, despite price point, but merely on the harshness of ride and slammed geometry. Its designed for an experienced rider who wants to feel the road. If I was looking for a starter ride, the cannondale CAAD bikes are a better go....Again, spot on review
Looking at buying this frameset and building something special. Currently riding a TCR pro 0 of which I found to be one of the best value bikes around. The only real issue I have with my TCR is the length of the head tube. Why does Giant make them so long? It really is a pain in the arse for those of us wanting to get into a lower tuck position. The Allez may be seen as an 'entry-level' frame ATM but 15 years ago would've been something really special. I have a 'still in the box' Campy Super Record groupset with some Corima 47mmm carbon clinchers waiting to go onto a new frame and one of these would be just to my liking:)
Hi Karl, sounds like you've got some good treats to put on a frame! Not sure why Giant do that on the TCR. I haven't spent much time researching that bike as I can't get access to one for a review. The Allez or the Cannondale CAAD are two bikes well renowned for building up as an alloy play bike. Cam
am looking at gettng the 2010 specialized allez elite saxo bank bike... do you think its worth it? or is it too old tech wise? i am a relatively new cycle enthusiast
Sounds a bit old mate, if you can get something within the last 3 years that will serve you better technology wise. But the Alloy frames do last well, so could-be good if money is the key here.
Hey Cam, I was a competitive cyclist back 20 years ago. My last road bike was a Giant Cadex 980C which I believe retailed for about $1400 back in the early nineties. Now at age 50, I'm looking to get back in to sport but I am on a budget. I want to spend under $3000. Back in my day, I was very comfortable and preferred the over the handle bars aero position. Do you think the Specialized Allez would be a good purchase considering my riding background.
For new bikes: 1-2k entry level; 2-3.5k mid-range; 3.5k+ high-end. If you're willing to go used you can find a really good bike for 1K. Currency I'm using as a barometer is USD. He's likely using AUS, which is obviously worth less.
You said that since this bike is harsher riding than a high end carbon bike it's not ideal for longer rides. Then you said you'll use it primarily for training (long miles) after getting a higher end carbon bike down the road. That's contradictory. You also said since it rides harsher and transfers more road buzz it'll make you a stronger cyclist?? How do you figure that association? Nevertheless, I agree the Allez Sprint is an awesome all-rounder and with the new disc model, you can put on bigger tubeless tires and cruise on gravel roads in comfort too.
Hey Dan, I believe if you're a conditioned road cyclist that trains for competitions it's a good training bike and should be used for long rides. If you're an entry level cyclist and you're going to try out long rides it's probably a bit too harsh for you. That was the point. I personally feel more fatigued riding the Allez on long rides because of the road buzz. That's a good thing if you want to make your life harder for training purposes. Apologies if this wasn't overly clear. Cam
Got the green like ur tarmac u had,I also have the Tarmac,I like the handling on the Allez more,kinda feels like an Indy car compared to the Tarmac,also for smoother cable routing its better to have the fr. der. cable go down the right side down tube & cross the cables under the BB bracket cause its a sharp turn the way u have it
I am getting my first road bike soon. An Allez Sport. Alloy frame and Sora groupset. The only thing that bothers me is their color choices. So painting it will be my biggest problem.
I started road cycling in October of 2019 and I love my allez sprint comp disc. I use a size 52 cm frame with the stock components, and I actually think it is not aggressive enough. I feel like I'm sitting up too high, even after slamming he stem. I'm 5 feet 3 inches. Should I get a longer stem? Also, I'm 13 and have an average speed of at least 30 kmph every ride with max speeds reaching over 60 kmph. It's worthy to point out that I'm a sprinter. I've ridden 1224 km since the beginning of October 2019 when I got the bike. Should I upgrade the wheels? I am not very satisfied with the alloy wheels and feel like they are slowing me down. I'm looking at the prime se 50 wheelset.
I don't really want to comment on position, without seeing you. I would recommend going to a local bike fitter. Invest your money there before a set of Carbons. The carbons will definitely make you go faster. Unsure about that brand though. Cam
@@CamNicholls prime is the in-house brand of chain reaction cycling and wiggle. I heard it's very good for the price. Only $465 for the 50mm carbon clinchers with two free inner tubes and tyres included.
G’Day Cam. I really enjoy your content and usually I don’t comment because I don’t want to be know as a troll. I was keen to watch your review on the Allez, but the title made me a little worried and confused so I have some questions. The Allez is an out and out race bike. It is raced by a pro team. So it really can’t be compared to any carbon frame at the same price point (as new). It’s better to stick with apples and apples. Say a CAAD 12 or a Teammachine ALR. It’s not fair to Specialized to compare with the carbon framed bike you used, I would like to think Specialized have spent the same R&D time and budget to create the ultimate alloy race frame. Aluminium is far less expensive to produce, that’s all, hence the “entry level price”. I noticed not once did you say it was better than your SR5. Also you didn’t mention if you kept the same bike fit from your old frame to the Allez. I noticed a little extra “stack” added from the original Allez stack. So did you “get lower” (probably not)? The weight? We all like an independent weight not official claimed weight of the frame. I would be proud of the bike and setup you have. Maybe my bike is worth more or is cooler (maybe not) but I’m not an A grader. This is what you could have pushed a little more, a competitive race machine made of alloys. Ride upgrades don’t buy up grades. Keep it real!
Hi Simon, I really appreciate the comment and feedback. It's useful to hear what viewers are thinking, especially when they provide detailed context, as you have done so. My view going into this piece (which doesn't make it correct by any means) was that many consumers that are willing to spend $3,000 on a road bike can quite often not have the knowledge or wisdom of someone like you or me. They may have only been road cycling for a year or two. Or maybe it's their first road bike. So I wanted to paint a clear picture for those consumers. You can see the full review here: www.bikechaser.com.au/news/specialized-allez-sprint/
@@CamNicholls, it makes sense. I guess people who just enter the sport sorta think the frame has to be Carbon to be competitive. Thanks for the link, Awesome! I want one.....
Would you be able to say much for the Allez Sprint vs the Tarmac Sport? I currently ride a 2014 Supersix Evo Hi Mod, but hate that it can't take tires larger than 23s. I'm torn between the Allez Sprint and Tarmac Sport. Really want a bike that's snappy, light, and fast
Just cracked my 2018 Cervelo S3 yesterday in the bunch. Noob caused of course. The racers got the worst of it. I just ordered a 2020 Allez Sprint frame. I got all DA9100 w/a 130 -17 stem. I bet this aluminum is just as fast as my carbon. If so....i will put a video upon my results.
I'm stuck on either buying the 2020 allez sprint disc frame or a used 2014 venge sworks. I can the the sworks frame for $1k and as you know the allez Is $1.5k . Would you say the old sworks is a better frame to build upon than the new allez sprint?
Well i have a touring bike for commute already, so this time i want a road bike. The only thing that i worry is the carbon frame on Venge. A friend of mine has a Venge and it cracked. And the Allez is more budget friendly than Venge. But Venge is super aero....
The Allez is Aero also. In fact, the geometry slightly more aggressive. But the Alloy makes it a little sluggish in comparison to the Venge. The best scenario in my opinion would be the Allez with some nice carbon wheels!
Hey there! I was really hoping you would mention how this bike performs on climbs. I live in an area where the climbing is constant. Would this be a wise choice for me? I know they got it down to 8kg with Sagan's. Thanks mate
I have done a lot of climbing with this bike. It's mediocre for climbing. It's best trait is flat roads going fast. I would recommend a carbon road bike for climbing. A Specialized Tarmac Comp, around the same price range, would be a much better option for you. Cam
@@CamNicholls Thanks for the super fast reply. I was afraid you were going to recommend a carbon Tarmac haha! That's a shame cause this Allez is so much sexier in my opinion, but looks won't get me up those hills. Thanks again! :)
@@igsterspamster770 Doesn't have to be a Tarmac, but something similar across different brands. Carbon is more responsive and comfortable, that is what you want for climbing. BUT, if you love the look of the Allez, it will work uphill! Cam
I personally find that the stiffness makes it a decent climber. I’m a heavier rider and we tend to have rolling hills where I live, but I’m able to pick up momentum going up. I’ve been up grades as steep as 20 percent on mine I personally find the weight of the frame is offset by how efficiently it transfers power to the road.
$400 700g oem carbon frame from aliexpress is all you need, they even have endurance geometry frames, you can get custom painted for around $40 (base color + decal, nothing complicated), in the end u can build a 16 lb bike for around $1500
Thanks Chris, I have a 25mm in there now and there's plenty of clearance so I'd say you should be fine. Although I have not seen the HED jet plus wheel. Cam
@@CamNicholls since it comes stock in 25mm what's the largest you can go? I live where its flat so thinking going large for less rolling resistance since the roads are good no bumps.
After many years on an Peugeot Bike, I wonted a new roadbike. I planed to spend about 1000, but finally got an allez expert for 1500 Euro. This was in 2013. My bike has got Ultegra. After a few years I had to replace the wheels and got some Mavic wheels. Expert. If I would buy a new bike, canyon Endurace or Ultimate wold be on my list oft affordable bikes.
Bosco Cheung I miss the sl5 responsiveness and climbing speed. It’s also more comfortable. I love the Allez because it’s a good looker and you can bang it around without as much care. If you get a nice set of wheels on the Allez it’s rolling speed is close and it’s stiffness rivals. Ultimately I miss the Tarmac but I’m very happy with just the Allez. Although I am getting a CHAPTER2 RERE very shortly 😍Cam
Hi there Cam. Are you still have your Allez Sprint? another question. Did you see at tour de france a Pinarello F12 that broke in half? Thanks. Safe Ride.
I’m trying to figure out my size on this one. I’m 6’ 1” (185cm) and I ride a 56cm Fuji Sportif that feels nice. I’ve heard this thing runs small though.
Cycled my first season this year with a Specialized Sequoia I have been left longing for an aggressive fast ride. I've been torn between the Tarmac SL4 and the Allez Sprint comp. But I feel the Allez sprint comp might just be a more modern and fun bike, especially considering I have a very forgiving bike already. What are your thoughts? My heart says Allez
@@andreassoderstrom4281 I am assuming the SL4 in second hand, and the Allez is new. The SL4 will have lost stiffness over the last 5 or so years, so if the Allez is new, get that. Cam
Can I get your opinion on this? I have an Allez Sprint that I’m considering racing this season. Compared to my carbon bike, the ride quality just feels so dead, and not snappy or lively when riding it. Can you relate to what I’m talking about? If so, are there any after-market upgrades that could help this? My current build is with 105 R7000, aluminum Zipp bars and stem, and specialized power pro saddle. I love the bike, it’s the Red Hook Crit edition, but it feels so dead compared to my Felt FR1 that I don’t feel as good racing it.
Thing is, if you would not have come from a felt FR1, straight to the Allez, the ride would be totally different... But have a buddy who said the same exact thing!! I myself have carbon and aluminum bikes, both Seem to differ quite some... And others who have come from alum, and gotten the Allez are as happy as pie!!!! Personally I still think the Allez Sprint is an incredible road bike...
@@CamNicholls Thank you! I have an Allez as well, and I think im chasing my tail, but not sure. I keep thinking my bike is too big. I'm 6'1' with I believe a 33" inseams and a longer reach to torso, and am riding a 58. I'm just not sure if I should have gone down to a 56. Any thoughts?
@cam i got exact same measurements as you and been riding since 2005 allez 58, then 2009 tarmac and 2016 tarmac sworks all 58. I had same thoughts as you on 56 but felt too low on down tube. Let's not let that size issue get into our head and excuse performance...we just need to train more on those 58s...
Cam-Wiggins, great video! Thank you for giving us a great detail insights. I’m keen to swap out to the Allez as well from my current carbon frame (bianchi sampre). What’s the weight of this frame set? They say it’s a light aluminum frame but how does it compare to a mid price point carbon frame?
Yuma Nakagawa thanks for the comment Yuma, I haven’t weighed it unfortunately. It would be heavier but stiffer I would say. Perhaps more aero too, but you will be giving up comfort. Cam
Oliver Williams thanks Oliver, I am just under 5’11. I haven weighed it. I know that’s naughty! Given the 105 and the wheels it would have to be around 8.5 kgs. Cam
Cheers mate, I'm just about to pick up the 2019 rim version and probably throw some Roval Cl50's on there. If you get the chance to weigh it it'd be interesting to see. Keep up the good work!
Only second hand now, I am literally selling this frame right now. About to make a video about it before moving it on. It's a 56cm top tube. Might be a little costly to send to the US though! Happy with $900 AUD. Cost me $1,500 18 months ago. Let me know.
Great review Cam. I've just bought a 2019 Allez sprint and can't wait to get it built up. Coming 'down' off a venge, Giant TCR and currently a trek Madone. I had similar criteria to you so fingers crossed it ticks all the boxes
Thanks for the comment Mick. If you have similar criteria then I am sure you will love it. Bang for the buck it's great value, and an epic training bike.
An extremely informative and helpful video ! Just wanted to get some input on an issue that I am facing. I am 5'9 tall and am looking to get the Specialized Allez Sprint. However, I seem to be stuck in between sizes, essentially torn between a size 52 and a size 54. I understand that the bike has a rather aggressive geometry, and hence, I would love to hear your input on which size you would recommend!
Yeah, it's a great companion. I like it how I can take it away and not stress. For example, going to the Tour Down Under and riding hundreds of km's, leaving it outside cafes with thousands of other bikes. There's no stress, and it's a great ride.
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Personally I think it's the ugliest (2017-2018) bike ever made. Coming from a welding background I can tell you there is nothing smart about the welding. It's awful, the hydro formed tubes have been designed so bad welders (underpaid slave labor in china) can slap weld in the gaps without too much skill. That's the only smart thing about it. As for the weld quality I see a lot of porosity in the welds in the bikes we get in the shop. The Allez also suffers from really poor BB shell design, it's not only the dreaded BB30 but it also fills up with water and stays wet. We end up replacing BBs and spindles often on these bikes because of rusting. Lastly the Quality of the aluminium material must be quite poor, I see a lot of them corroding all over and then the paint falls off. Get the Bowman Palace R, it's much lighter (by 300-400g) cheaper, better made, better all round and comes with a Threaded BB. Honestly the only reason to buy this with cheaper and much better Aluminium bikes on the market is if you are a complete sucker for Specialized.
Mannnn...if a rider want comfort, buy a Hybrid bike or a Mountain Bike with a good suspension. Road bike in my opinion was not designed for comfort but speed. Regards.
Now wait a minute!!! All these glowing reviews about the Venge and the Tarmac and you don’t even own one of these grossly expensive bikes!!! WTF man!! Now you show us you own a cheapie lil ol Aluminum bike?!?!?! Aw man your just a bike salesman. I guess if I look close enough I’ll see a used car lot???
I owned the SL4, SL5 and borrowed the SL6 for 3 weeks from Specialized. Although I don't own a Tarmac anymore. Just the Allez and the CHAPTER2 Rere. Them the facts.
Now wait a minute!!! All these glowing reviews about the Venge and the Tarmac and you don’t even own one of these grossly expensive bikes!!! WTF man!! Now you show us you own a cheapie lil ol Aluminum bike?!?!?! Aw man your just a bike salesman. I guess if I look close enough I’ll see a used car lot???
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Allez Sprint, my entry bike, still the most fun of every bike I've pedaled
3 friends have bought these since I got mine, there is something so pure about this bike, hard to describe
d b sucked up the Specialized marketing tripe good and proper
Yeah totally
what year is your allez
This video has an issue that I feel is a huge issue in the cycling world. Treating a $2500 bike as a “starter” bike. I must live on a tighter budget than most because my first road bike isn’t in that class. The thought that $2500 for your first road bike seems crazy. It’s also why I was able to buy a used bike in like new condition for 1/2 the price of a new bike. The monetary barriers to entry in this sport make it difficult for many to get into, and although this review was informative, I think like most, it misses the mark on the pricing for someone new to the sport.
Thanks for the feedback Erik. I guess it depends on the circumstance. I entered the sport at the age of 27, with a full time income and no family to feed. So my entry-level budget was $3,000 AUD. But you make a fair point. Thanks for the comment. Cam
In my bike club here in the U.S., many of the newest riders ride bikes nearer $1,000 with Sora or Claris groupsets. It’s not until they ride a year or 2, and know what they like and don’t like about their bike that they may end up with a bike nearer the class of a $2500 bike. Still solid info, just my experience.
I recently began riding bikes for cardio etc.. bought a $150 bike at Academy and hated it. So I went to a Bicycle shop and bought a $650 Specialized Crosstrail w/ hydraulic brakes. Absolutely love the bike.. To me, 650 bucks is entry level to quality. I will eventually get me a road bike in the $2000 range.. To me 1 grand to 3 grand for a bike is a mid-range, anything over 3 grand to 5 grand is high end and anything over that is absurd OR meant for the pros. Granted Im part of the general public, serious riders that race etc have a different view. So I think they forget that you can buy a brand new Harley Davidson Superlow for under $9000 , compare that to a Specialized Venge Bicycle that costs 11 grand!
I agree $1000 USD, is entry level here for a road bike.
Agreed. I spent about $500 building an old Trek Madone 6.5 and an extra $300 upgrading it to Dura Ace components, and it's way fancier than I need. My buddy built up his Madone 4.5 for just about $650, and another found a Specialized Transition for $800. All Canadian money.
Cycling doesn't need to be super pricey.
I have an Allez Sprint Comp 2017...great bike. I just had to upgrade the crankset and brakes. it came with Praxis works crankset and Axis Brakes, now it is 100% 105 Shimano. Safe Ride guys.
Did you upgrade the wheels? I just got a 2019 Allez Sprint Comp it's all stock right now.
I upgrade for a Vision Comp Team 35 aluminum. Good wheels.
Awesome vid. I purchased my first road bike 2 years ago, an Allez. Though second hand and getting long in the tooth now I can't fault it and now I couldn't imagine riding any other geometries.
It's cool to hear that a serious rider like yourself like this bike enough to promote it. 👍
I still ride my Allez A1 direct drive 58cm frame 2003 model.
Awesome bike!!
Good video! Thx!
When I first saw the video, I was so in love and couldn't afford the Specialized Allez Sprint. 4 years later, the time has finally come and I will receive my frameset at the end of the month. The new Allez has a slightly different geometry and no longer the thick seat tube (which I find a bit of a shame), but I'm looking forward to building up the bike now in the off-season.
I started with cycling almost 9 years ago with old and very cheap road bikes and have always dreamed of building a bike like this one day.
Thank you so much for your review of the Allez bike, as a entry level cyclist your review really gives me confidence to go for getting one Specialized Allez for myself.
Might also be worth mentioning the head tube length on the new venge is shorter compared to the Allez Disc. 153mm Venge vs 160mm Allez Disc (frame size 56)
Thanks for the tip. Is the head tube length on the disc taller than the rim? Cam
Cam Nicholls yup
HT length can be very misleading due to HT angel and BB drop, stack is the only absolute value
I have the same bike and your right about the road fill, but once I put a nice set of carbon wheels and a lighter psi in my tires its definitely a better riding experience. I'm very pleased with this bike and it's a beast and a carbon killer. I've definitely noticed a lot of guys I raced up against have switched from a carbon Tarmacs to the Allez Sprints because of the aggressiveness of the frame. Great review by the way.
Thank you and I appreciate you sharing that insight. I concur!
Really having a used specialized 2017 (previous owner only rode for only 200KM) and clocking for almost 15,000 KM for a year of use, I must say I impressed with the frame. I'm a heavy user and our road condition are not that forgiving pot holes everywhere, a lil bit stiff but the carbon fork absorb the vibration really well. For beginner, I think this would be a good frame for those who wanna start cycling, a great all rounder, I even done the audax 300 on this frame. Right now looking to upgrade my wheelset to fulcrum racing quattro carbon and change my groupset to ultegra so that the weight of the bike would weight less than 8kg. I think my next frame upgrade would be specialized allez again, can't seems to be separated with the brand
Thanks for sharing your experiences here. Cam
Nice work on the review and the 4 Check list items. I agree with your comments, as I have an Emonda SL6 and few weeks back completed a build with the Allez limited edition 2017 frameset, deep carbons as a 1X. In order to minimize road buzz (and this bike is unforgiving) I went for Ti rails on the saddle and Mavic UST rims, tubeless 28c running 65 psi.... its very smooth ride now and by far the best handling bike I have ever owned, far superior to the emonda. I would not recommend this bike to a newbie, despite price point, but merely on the harshness of ride and slammed geometry. Its designed for an experienced rider who wants to feel the road. If I was looking for a starter ride, the cannondale CAAD bikes are a better go....Again, spot on review
Ravin Premji thanks Ravin, much appreciated. Thanks for sharing your experiences too. Good insights! Cam
hi. what make is your 28c tyres? have you measure them when fitted? thanks
Here’s the thing about bikes with low stack heights- they LET you get low, but they don’t make you get low. Spacers are our friends
Yes, good point there Scott. Cam
Looking at buying this frameset and building something special. Currently riding a TCR pro 0 of which I found to be one of the best value bikes around. The only real issue I have with my TCR is the length of the head tube. Why does Giant make them so long? It really is a pain in the arse for those of us wanting to get into a lower tuck position. The Allez may be seen as an 'entry-level' frame ATM but 15 years ago would've been something really special. I have a 'still in the box' Campy Super Record groupset with some Corima 47mmm carbon clinchers waiting to go onto a new frame and one of these would be just to my liking:)
Hi Karl, sounds like you've got some good treats to put on a frame! Not sure why Giant do that on the TCR. I haven't spent much time researching that bike as I can't get access to one for a review. The Allez or the Cannondale CAAD are two bikes well renowned for building up as an alloy play bike. Cam
am looking at gettng the 2010 specialized allez elite saxo bank bike... do you think its worth it? or is it too old tech wise? i am a relatively new cycle enthusiast
Sounds a bit old mate, if you can get something within the last 3 years that will serve you better technology wise. But the Alloy frames do last well, so could-be good if money is the key here.
Nice video, with honest opinion and information for us that are still riding the garage sell bought vintage treasure finds! Thank's!
Cam, glad you have pointed the fact out that to be a good cyclist you do not have to spend ten K on a bike, and your racing in A Grade,
I had an earlier model Allez, it was rock solid out of the saddle, a sprinters dream!
Agreed, although I'm not much of a sprinter so can't test it that thoroughly! Thanks for the comment Ron, Cam
Hey Cam, I was a competitive cyclist back 20 years ago. My last road bike was a Giant Cadex 980C which I believe retailed for about $1400 back in the early nineties. Now at age 50, I'm looking to get back in to sport but I am on a budget. I want to spend under $3000. Back in my day, I was very comfortable and preferred the over the handle bars aero position. Do you think the Specialized Allez would be a good purchase considering my riding background.
Hey Ron, possibly. My concern is that it’s stiff and as a result not overly comfortable. An entry level sport Tarmac would be a better choice I feel.
this guy is smoking the good stuff calling a 2-3k bike "entry level" hahahahahaha
I smoke $100 bills
Yeah. Those bloody westerners with their economy and prosperity.
@@michwoz Pretty sure he's eastern, mate
Have you tried going shopping for a new race/road bike recently? Lmao
For new bikes: 1-2k entry level; 2-3.5k mid-range; 3.5k+ high-end.
If you're willing to go used you can find a really good bike for 1K.
Currency I'm using as a barometer is USD. He's likely using AUS, which is obviously worth less.
Love the Nankervis humour. Love the takeouts. Can’t wait to see the new venge review as I’m guessing that will be your weapon of choice
It's pretty bloody good that Venge! I haven't even tested on a fast bunchie yet.
Nice review
You said that since this bike is harsher riding than a high end carbon bike it's not ideal for longer rides. Then you said you'll use it primarily for training (long miles) after getting a higher end carbon bike down the road. That's contradictory. You also said since it rides harsher and transfers more road buzz it'll make you a stronger cyclist?? How do you figure that association? Nevertheless, I agree the Allez Sprint is an awesome all-rounder and with the new disc model, you can put on bigger tubeless tires and cruise on gravel roads in comfort too.
Hey Dan, I believe if you're a conditioned road cyclist that trains for competitions it's a good training bike and should be used for long rides. If you're an entry level cyclist and you're going to try out long rides it's probably a bit too harsh for you. That was the point. I personally feel more fatigued riding the Allez on long rides because of the road buzz. That's a good thing if you want to make your life harder for training purposes. Apologies if this wasn't overly clear. Cam
Got the green like ur tarmac u had,I also have the Tarmac,I like the handling on the Allez more,kinda feels like an Indy car compared to the Tarmac,also for smoother cable routing its better to have the fr. der. cable go down the right side down tube & cross the cables under the BB bracket cause its a sharp turn the way u have it
Thanks for the comment/insights Lucy. Cam
Lucy Hiatt If u could only own a bike, tarmac or allez?
Allez gets ridden more
I am getting my first road bike soon. An Allez Sport. Alloy frame and Sora groupset. The only thing that bothers me is their color choices. So painting it will be my biggest problem.
I started road cycling in October of 2019 and I love my allez sprint comp disc. I use a size 52 cm frame with the stock components, and I actually think it is not aggressive enough. I feel like I'm sitting up too high, even after slamming he stem. I'm 5 feet 3 inches. Should I get a longer stem? Also, I'm 13 and have an average speed of at least 30 kmph every ride with max speeds reaching over 60 kmph. It's worthy to point out that I'm a sprinter. I've ridden 1224 km since the beginning of October 2019 when I got the bike. Should I upgrade the wheels? I am not very satisfied with the alloy wheels and feel like they are slowing me down. I'm looking at the prime se 50 wheelset.
I don't really want to comment on position, without seeing you. I would recommend going to a local bike fitter. Invest your money there before a set of Carbons. The carbons will definitely make you go faster. Unsure about that brand though. Cam
@@CamNicholls prime is the in-house brand of chain reaction cycling and wiggle. I heard it's very good for the price. Only $465 for the 50mm carbon clinchers with two free inner tubes and tyres included.
Hi, great video ! Would love to see those criterium videos and fast bunch riding that you mentioned.
Cycling Fan I’m about to start a criterium series so plenty coming! Thanks for the comment. Cam
What tyres are u running on gravel? 28s?
Cant decide between this and CAAD 12....
Haven't ridden the CAAD so can't provide any insights unfortunately. Good luck. Cam
@Ronit Debnath You might want to check Ride Adelaide YT channel out... He compared that two, some time ago
@@smazonyryz I have seen that. Thanks all the same
Caad 12 is so ugly😝
Go for CAAD if you like classic look
G’Day Cam. I really enjoy your content and usually I don’t comment because I don’t want to be know as a troll.
I was keen to watch your review on the Allez, but the title made me a little worried and confused so I have some questions. The Allez is an out and out race bike. It is raced by a pro team. So it really can’t be compared to any carbon frame at the same price point (as new). It’s better to stick with apples and apples. Say a CAAD 12 or a Teammachine ALR. It’s not fair to Specialized to compare with the carbon framed bike you used, I would like to think Specialized have spent the same R&D time and budget to create the ultimate alloy race frame. Aluminium is far less expensive to produce, that’s all, hence the “entry level price”. I noticed not once did you say it was better than your SR5. Also you didn’t mention if you kept the same bike fit from your old frame to the Allez. I noticed a little extra “stack” added from the original Allez stack. So did you “get lower” (probably not)? The weight? We all like an independent weight not official claimed weight of the frame.
I would be proud of the bike and setup you have. Maybe my bike is worth more or is cooler (maybe not) but I’m not an A grader. This is what you could have pushed a little more, a competitive race machine made of alloys. Ride upgrades don’t buy up grades.
Keep it real!
Hi Simon, I really appreciate the comment and feedback. It's useful to hear what viewers are thinking, especially when they provide detailed context, as you have done so. My view going into this piece (which doesn't make it correct by any means) was that many consumers that are willing to spend $3,000 on a road bike can quite often not have the knowledge or wisdom of someone like you or me. They may have only been road cycling for a year or two. Or maybe it's their first road bike. So I wanted to paint a clear picture for those consumers. You can see the full review here: www.bikechaser.com.au/news/specialized-allez-sprint/
@@CamNicholls, it makes sense. I guess people who just enter the sport sorta think the frame has to be Carbon to be competitive.
Thanks for the link, Awesome! I want one.....
I thought the Allez series was specifically supposed to be for Aluminum bikes.
My daily ride is a 2000 Allez A1 58 cm and I love her.
Hi Bill, my understanding is that too. They are all Alloy with carbon seat post and forks. Cam
Would you be able to say much for the Allez Sprint vs the Tarmac Sport? I currently ride a 2014 Supersix Evo Hi Mod, but hate that it can't take tires larger than 23s. I'm torn between the Allez Sprint and Tarmac Sport. Really want a bike that's snappy, light, and fast
Tarmac Sport 100%
Just cracked my 2018 Cervelo S3 yesterday in the bunch. Noob caused of course. The racers got the worst of it.
I just ordered a 2020 Allez Sprint frame.
I got all DA9100 w/a 130 -17 stem.
I bet this aluminum is just as fast as my carbon.
If so....i will put a video upon my results.
I'm stuck on either buying the 2020 allez sprint disc frame or a used 2014 venge sworks. I can the the sworks frame for $1k and as you know the allez Is $1.5k . Would you say the old sworks is a better frame to build upon than the new allez sprint?
Allez.
I'm thinking about getting a Allez Sprint Comp or used Venge?? I dont want the Venge to be broken suddenly in a group ride lmao
What sort of riding will you be doing outside of the group rides? Cam
Well, maybe commute to work or just a couple of sprints
Neither are great commute bikes, but both work well in the sprint. If you're sprnting around more than commuting then the Venge is probably a go.
Well i have a touring bike for commute already, so this time i want a road bike. The only thing that i worry is the carbon frame on Venge. A friend of mine has a Venge and it cracked. And the Allez is more budget friendly than Venge. But Venge is super aero....
The Allez is Aero also. In fact, the geometry slightly more aggressive. But the Alloy makes it a little sluggish in comparison to the Venge. The best scenario in my opinion would be the Allez with some nice carbon wheels!
Hey there! I was really hoping you would mention how this bike performs on climbs. I live in an area where the climbing is constant. Would this be a wise choice for me? I know they got it down to 8kg with Sagan's. Thanks mate
I have done a lot of climbing with this bike. It's mediocre for climbing. It's best trait is flat roads going fast. I would recommend a carbon road bike for climbing. A Specialized Tarmac Comp, around the same price range, would be a much better option for you. Cam
@@CamNicholls Thanks for the super fast reply. I was afraid you were going to recommend a carbon Tarmac haha! That's a shame cause this Allez is so much sexier in my opinion, but looks won't get me up those hills. Thanks again! :)
@@igsterspamster770 Doesn't have to be a Tarmac, but something similar across different brands. Carbon is more responsive and comfortable, that is what you want for climbing. BUT, if you love the look of the Allez, it will work uphill! Cam
I personally find that the stiffness makes it a decent climber. I’m a heavier rider and we tend to have rolling hills where I live, but I’m able to pick up momentum going up. I’ve been up grades as steep as 20 percent on mine I personally find the weight of the frame is offset by how efficiently it transfers power to the road.
$400 700g oem carbon frame from aliexpress is all you need, they even have endurance geometry frames, you can get custom painted for around $40 (base color + decal, nothing complicated), in the end u can build a 16 lb bike for around $1500
Great review. I’ve heard conflicting reports on this bike in regards to tire size. Can you fit a 25mm GP4000 SII on say a wide HED jet plus wheel?
Thanks Chris, I have a 25mm in there now and there's plenty of clearance so I'd say you should be fine. Although I have not seen the HED jet plus wheel. Cam
Thanks!
@@CamNicholls since it comes stock in 25mm what's the largest you can go? I live where its flat so thinking going large for less rolling resistance since the roads are good no bumps.
@@Bungle2010 thank you
Can't seem to find the weight stats anyway. Maybe they have something to hide with it being double welded.
Go on! Tell es how much it weighs.
I'll see if I can sort this next time I'm at a Specialized dealer! Cam
21 pounds
After many years on an Peugeot Bike, I wonted a new roadbike. I planed to spend about 1000, but finally got an allez expert for 1500 Euro. This was in 2013. My bike has got Ultegra. After a few years I had to replace the wheels and got some Mavic wheels.
Expert. If I would buy a new bike, canyon Endurace or Ultimate wold be on my list oft affordable bikes.
Thanks for sharing 👍
I’m also owning a sl5 and interested in allez.
Are you selling your SL5?
Cam Nicholls I’m considering
Bosco Cheung I miss the sl5 responsiveness and climbing speed. It’s also more comfortable. I love the Allez because it’s a good looker and you can bang it around without as much care. If you get a nice set of wheels on the Allez it’s rolling speed is close and it’s stiffness rivals. Ultimately I miss the Tarmac but I’m very happy with just the Allez. Although I am getting a CHAPTER2 RERE very shortly 😍Cam
Cam Nicholls I would rather stay with my sl5 after reading your reply. Don’t want to spend extra $$$.
Hi there Cam. Are you still have your Allez Sprint? another question. Did you see at tour de france a Pinarello F12 that broke in half? Thanks. Safe Ride.
Yes I do mate. No, I haven't actually been watching it. Family stuff has gotten in the way, but I will. Cheers, Cam
@@CamNicholls i understand. Family first. Have a good day!!!!
I’m trying to figure out my size on this one. I’m 6’ 1” (185cm) and I ride a 56cm Fuji Sportif that feels nice. I’ve heard this thing runs small though.
I'm the same height and the 56 frame is good. Just run a 130mm stem
TheMASDrummer I really appreciate that man, thanks. I’m about to pull the trigger on one
Cycled my first season this year with a Specialized Sequoia I have been left longing for an aggressive fast ride. I've been torn between the Tarmac SL4 and the Allez Sprint comp. But I feel the Allez sprint comp might just be a more modern and fun bike, especially considering I have a very forgiving bike already. What are your thoughts? My heart says Allez
What wheels will be on the SL4?
@@CamNicholls probably default on both. Considering fitting 28mm on the allez if i get that :)
@@andreassoderstrom4281 I am assuming the SL4 in second hand, and the Allez is new. The SL4 will have lost stiffness over the last 5 or so years, so if the Allez is new, get that. Cam
Can I get your opinion on this? I have an Allez Sprint that I’m considering racing this season.
Compared to my carbon bike, the ride quality just feels so dead, and not snappy or lively when riding it. Can you relate to what I’m talking about? If so, are there any after-market upgrades that could help this? My current build is with 105 R7000, aluminum Zipp bars and stem, and specialized power pro saddle. I love the bike, it’s the Red Hook Crit edition, but it feels so dead compared to my Felt FR1 that I don’t feel as good racing it.
I would never race on my Allez without expensive carbon rims. Without it, it's sluggish compared to a carbon road bike, as you suggest. Cam
Thing is, if you would not have come from a felt FR1, straight to the Allez, the ride would be totally different... But have a buddy who said the same exact thing!! I myself have carbon and aluminum bikes, both
Seem to differ quite some... And others who have come from alum, and gotten the Allez are as happy as pie!!!!
Personally I still think the Allez Sprint is an incredible road bike...
What size are you riding and what’s your height/ inseam?
5,10. 56cm. Not sure.
@@CamNicholls Thank you! I have an Allez as well, and I think im chasing my tail, but not sure. I keep thinking my bike is too big. I'm 6'1' with I believe a 33" inseams and a longer reach to torso, and am riding a 58. I'm just not sure if I should have gone down to a 56. Any thoughts?
@cam i got exact same measurements as you and been riding since 2005 allez 58, then 2009 tarmac and 2016 tarmac sworks all 58. I had same thoughts as you on 56 but felt too low on down tube. Let's not let that size issue get into our head and excuse performance...we just need to train more on those 58s...
Cam-Wiggins, great video! Thank you for giving us a great detail insights.
I’m keen to swap out to the Allez as well from my current carbon frame (bianchi sampre).
What’s the weight of this frame set? They say it’s a light aluminum frame but how does it compare to a mid price point carbon frame?
Yuma Nakagawa thanks for the comment Yuma, I haven’t weighed it unfortunately. It would be heavier but stiffer I would say. Perhaps more aero too, but you will be giving up comfort. Cam
i paid 1,4 for my allez with carbon wheels (ffwd)(all new) .... how can u buy a sprint for 2500-3000 ????
Are we talking USD? I was talking AUD. Cam
Great video! Two quick questions: How tall are you? And what is the weight of your build?
Oliver Williams thanks Oliver, I am just under 5’11. I haven weighed it. I know that’s naughty! Given the 105 and the wheels it would have to be around 8.5 kgs. Cam
Cheers mate, I'm just about to pick up the 2019 rim version and probably throw some Roval Cl50's on there. If you get the chance to weigh it it'd be interesting to see. Keep up the good work!
Is it possible to purchase this [great] specific model? Really love it. Based in the U.S.
Only second hand now, I am literally selling this frame right now. About to make a video about it before moving it on. It's a 56cm top tube. Might be a little costly to send to the US though! Happy with $900 AUD. Cost me $1,500 18 months ago. Let me know.
@Cam Nicholls, could you send the entire bike, frame and all? I would be happy to consider the whole package for increased price!
@@KhoaNguyen.08 It's been stripped already. I only have the frame.
Mate you go a bit emotional at the end talking about selling your sl5 haha
I know! I was really struggling with that part. Road bike emotions run deep.
I'm selling my Propel atm so feel your pain
What are you getting? Don't leave me hanging.
Haha...similar to what you did actually, got an original aluminum BMC. So if you know anyone looking to buy a Propel...
Don't know anyone but stick it on Bike Chaser! It's free.
what size do u ride?
large in the allez
@@CamNicholls 56?
Great review Cam. I've just bought a 2019 Allez sprint and can't wait to get it built up. Coming 'down' off a venge, Giant TCR and currently a trek Madone. I had similar criteria to you so fingers crossed it ticks all the boxes
Thanks for the comment Mick. If you have similar criteria then I am sure you will love it. Bang for the buck it's great value, and an epic training bike.
How tall r ya
180cm just over 5'10 Raj. Cam
@@CamNicholls wow . I lagged behind just by 7 cms lol
An extremely informative and helpful video ! Just wanted to get some input on an issue that I am facing. I am 5'9 tall and am looking to get the Specialized Allez Sprint. However, I seem to be stuck in between sizes, essentially torn between a size 52 and a size 54. I understand that the bike has a rather aggressive geometry, and hence, I would love to hear your input on which size you would recommend!
Love my allez 2018 cosmic black/chrome😍
Nice one, the Allez is a ripper. And the cosmic black/chrome sounds magnificent. Thanks for the comment. Cam
My first road bike was a specialized Allez 14 years ago ,,,I wish I had kept it
Yeah, it's a great companion. I like it how I can take it away and not stress. For example, going to the Tour Down Under and riding hundreds of km's, leaving it outside cafes with thousands of other bikes. There's no stress, and it's a great ride.
Great video!
Thank you Richard. Cam
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Thanks mate, it's actually an 'InForm' team kit polo but I get where you're coming from. Thanks for sharing.
Personally I think it's the ugliest (2017-2018) bike ever made.
Coming from a welding background I can tell you there is nothing smart about the welding. It's awful, the hydro formed tubes have been designed so bad welders (underpaid slave labor in china) can slap weld in the gaps without too much skill. That's the only smart thing about it. As for the weld quality I see a lot of porosity in the welds in the bikes we get in the shop.
The Allez also suffers from really poor BB shell design, it's not only the dreaded BB30 but it also fills up with water and stays wet. We end up replacing BBs and spindles often on these bikes because of rusting.
Lastly the Quality of the aluminium material must be quite poor, I see a lot of them corroding all over and then the paint falls off.
Get the Bowman Palace R, it's much lighter (by 300-400g) cheaper, better made, better all round and comes with a Threaded BB.
Honestly the only reason to buy this with cheaper and much better Aluminium bikes on the market is if you are a complete sucker for Specialized.
But they and Trek have best warranties. My Canyon have only 6 years
I ride a Crux with Pirelli Cinturato 35 mm tires. Lets me keep up with the guys on the road bikes.
Nice one! Thanks for sharing. Cam
I suppose it is a update
It might be 'entry level' price point, but it's an aggressive crit bike used by very experienced racers.
Yep, correct Phil
Nice bike, i have one 2017. The one on my profile. Regards.
Fernando Fonseca love the yellow 😍
@@CamNicholls Originally it came with Praxis Crankset and Axis brakes then i replaced for Shimano 105. Now it 100% Shimano 105.😎😎
🤣🤣🤣🤣. It must not be easy make videos....that's why i prefer riding bike. Regards. 😎
That price is not entry level,still a nice bike though
Mannnn...if a rider want comfort, buy a Hybrid bike or a Mountain Bike with a good suspension. Road bike in my opinion was not designed for comfort but speed. Regards.
Fair call. Although have you ever ridden a Roubaix? That thing is incredibly comfortable! Cam
Disc brakes ruined the look and the aerodynamic of the bicycles. It is a tragic that people follow like sheep. 😞
This guy is funny
Now wait a minute!!! All these glowing reviews about the Venge and the Tarmac and you don’t even own one of these grossly expensive bikes!!! WTF man!! Now you show us you own a cheapie lil ol Aluminum bike?!?!?! Aw man your just a bike salesman. I guess if I look close enough I’ll see a used car lot???
Rudy Elizondo he literally said he owned a tarmac...
I owned the SL4, SL5 and borrowed the SL6 for 3 weeks from Specialized. Although I don't own a Tarmac anymore. Just the Allez and the CHAPTER2 Rere. Them the facts.
Who cares about a dirty bike? I clean mine once a month lol
yup, MTB for sure bwahahahaha juice kiddin
Now wait a minute!!! All these glowing reviews about the Venge and the Tarmac and you don’t even own one of these grossly expensive bikes!!! WTF man!! Now you show us you own a cheapie lil ol Aluminum bike?!?!?! Aw man your just a bike salesman. I guess if I look close enough I’ll see a used car lot???
Ok your right, he does own multiple bikes like the Venge. My apologies, I gather he has a great budget for all those bikes.
No Rudy, bike manufacturers lend the to me to review. Cam