@@BacklTrack The Rowland can be a little hotter than the 45 Super in this video. The 45 Super especially with a muzzle brake can be pushed to Rowland power provided the necessary alterations to the firearms are made; strong recoil spring, recoil buffer, flat bottom firing pin stop...etc. The Rowland does not have any more capacity than the Super. They are indentical in that regard and the Rowland is 1/16th of an inch longer just to prevent chambering in a standard 45 auto.
Great video! I have 2 10mm and 2 45 handguns. I also reload for both and have been trying to push the limits on both. I didn't get into casting my own projectiles, I have too many "hobbies" to fully get into it the way that I should to do it right. I wish you lived close to NC, would love to shoot some with you and pick your brain. I have been reloading for 6 years or so but would love to learn some of the things that you have learned through years of trial and error! Great video!!
@@stuckcase7775 I live further towards the coast between Whiteville and Lumberton NC in the country which is great! Can shoot in the back yard any time I want!
I like both 45 Super and 10mm. I see the 10mm as being a more effective penetrator. However, I prefer the variation of being able to shoot 45 and 45 super from same gun.
Excellent creative insightful test! Both the 45 Super and the 10mm Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Bullets are Winners for preserving human lives and putting down Bears. What type of Bullet Coating did you use?
Just an idea: to catch deviating bullets like that .45 Super, what about constructing a plywood corral or trough, with walls on either side and maybe on the far end. Sure, plywood wouldn't stop a direct shot from either one of these monsters, but it might deflect or ricochet rounds once they've gone through some media and then slowed down a bit, and keep them inside the box. The final measures of expansion or upset on HPs or SPs could be affected by that plywood, though.
Great video. You picked up another sub…. I’ve just started casting but been reloading close 30 years. You’re gonna probably laugh but I want to try a frozen jug of water with my 308 caliber air rifle. You’ve inspired me… I’m shooting a .309 Lee 120 grain projectile at 1,000 fps from my Texan air rifle. I’ve never recovered a bullet from this rifle. Three 5 gallon jugs of water isn’t enough. I bet frozen will do the trick!
Those are some really powerful loads! They are like 357 Magnum level power. I love my 1911 but I have a 357 that would be ok for a critter in the woods that might want to attack me! HaHa! But those loads……. Man I love the power! I never realized just how powerful a 45 could be!
getting into reloading 10mm, G40 factory barrel for now kkm on order. Question what spring weight do you run? i want to work up to near your levels but sill be able to run factory ammo. im thinking 20 to 22 lbs. what im loading now are 200gr rnfp coated 9.1gr IMR-BLUE ( blue dot mirror ) very accurate, and 9.6gr almost as accurate but with good jump in recoil. dont want to beat up the gun. what would you suggest? i will also want to load hotter rounds when the kkm comes in
Your stock spring will work at those load levels. The Glock in this vid has a Gen 3 spring conversion (plug and guide rod) and is a Wolf 24# spring. It handles most ammo that has been shot through it but some have had hiccups when under powered. You will get excellent performance with Blue Dot in the 10mm. Don’t buy in to the naysayers. I still use it quite a bit with the 10 and some 45 super loads
Hey Stuck Case can you tell me whats the Bhn on your hard cas bullets. Have you ever gas checked any of your bullets? Have you ever used Accurate 9 in your 10mm loads? When you load your ammo using Eastwood Blue, are you filling the grease groove? Any load data using Imr 800x in with 10mm jhp ? I have watched all of your videos, you do a dam good job! Thanks keep them coming!!!!
The BHN is around 12. Depending on how much tin I put in and for which bullet. Some need help filling out the mold so I add tin up to approximately 5 percent. I do gas check my 300 AAC bullets but do not gas check my 45 or 10 mm bullets. AANo 9 is a fantastic 10 mm powder. You can’t get enough of it in the casing. The coating is applied in a tumbler-bullets and coating tumble for ten minutes then I bake them for twenty minutes at 400 degrees then air cool before sizing. I’ll refer to my notes and get back to you on the 800 x and 180 gr 10 mm loads. Video quality has gone down since my son moved to Ohio to go to work. He was my editor in chief and tech guy
@@poobank my change was for the reputation of KKM and previous experience with their product. The stock barrel will do most anything a person needs to do with a pistol. By no means I’m I advocating a necessary swap. It is simply my hobby. My interests. All in all, shoot your stock barrel and tinker, observe, take good notes. Then decide it pursue an alternative.
@@stuckcase7775 Never mind my question. I see you used a stock KKM barrels for Glock and after market compensator barrels for your .45 ACP. I never shot my stock barrel .45 ACP Ruger P345 using 45 super loads. I need to some research.
@@stuckcase7775 understand but that sucks, 450smc, can't find it nowhere, double tap hasn't had it in almost a damn year, you wouldn't happen to know where any is at with you, by the way I just found your channel subscribe and by God I love it.
The 45 is made more for close range. It's as effective as any round at point blank. It's not the most powerful, but it holds it's on pretty good at point blank range.
Agreed In its magnum form, it can be truly impressive exceeding 900 ft lbs of energy I have personally taken 45 super brass to 1050 ft lbs using 185 gr bullets My testing has concluded to this point that +P and a 200 to 225 gr bullet is an excellent area to nestle in at. Not hard on the gun and 700 ft lbs will be a bullet that will not be recovered-using cast
Working up slowly, measuring my cases. Some of this is rework from ten years or more ago. I have a small notebook with hundreds of different loads for the 45 and other cartridges
It might as well be a 10 mm then Purpose is larger diameter with heavier mass I have 185 gr bullets that shoot well I like the large diameter meplat on the 45 slugs
My only critique, you should have used a 200 grain bullet for the 10mm. Realistically, the 45 Super and 10mm are so close in performance and capability that it's almost impossible to argue for one over the other. Factory 10mm ammo is easier to find than 45 Super, but if you reload it doesn't matter. Good presentation!
@@anthonysmith3132 45 super is by far the most flexible cartridge available to autos. Can shoot bullseye loads clear up to full nuclear Rowland power levels-your choice-especially hand loading
Because these bullets emulate a comparable design for each caliber. Simply going to a similar weight handicaps the 45 in the comparison. It’s sectional density is reduced drastically giving an extreme edge to the 10. When loading both cartridges to similar pressure levels the 45 truly takes over-compare 10mm heavy stuff to 460 Rowland heavy stuff
If you just wanted to capture the slug there are better procedures. Interesting shoot but you already knew the numbers so I'm confused as to the point of this.
I’ve tried all procedures that I knew of to your mention. As to the point-two slugs from similar power cartridges of similar design and weight ratio per caliber in a similar test media-comparing penetration-thanks for allowing me to clarify if I didn’t make it clear-hope this helps
Besides, he didn't say he unthawed it. He ALLOWED it to unthaw. So that just means he gave it a chance to freeze again. And he could certainly do that.
Bout as hillbilly as your punctuation and capitalization. You can eat shit at any time. I’m not woke and don’t give a f-ck about feelings so un thaw that!
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interesting way to make snow cones , nice work!!
Really interesting results. Thanks for the video.
Great video! Love my .45Super.
It about right where it should be .45 Super@ 1255 fps while 10mm @1515 fps. Either way both very devastating ammo.
I'd like to see what the Rowland can do tbh
@@BacklTrack The Rowland can be a little hotter than the 45 Super in this video. The 45 Super especially with a muzzle brake can be pushed to Rowland power provided the necessary alterations to the firearms are made; strong recoil spring, recoil buffer, flat bottom firing pin stop...etc. The Rowland does not have any more capacity than the Super. They are indentical in that regard and the Rowland is 1/16th of an inch longer just to prevent chambering in a standard 45 auto.
Awesome video. Ice is great to test these hardcast rounds! 45
Shhh--don’t tell anybody
So cool. Love both calibers thank you.
Your user name-one of
Napoleon’s Marshals
@@marshaldavout3421 his greatest loss of talent and experience
Even surpassing Ney’s bungle that cost him at Waterloo
@@stuckcase7775 at least he had me at austerlitz and jena - austat
@@marshaldavout3421 his master piece
Austerlitz
@@stuckcase7775 I'd argue the most important battle of the napoleonic wars was trafalgar.
great content
My .45 super 200gr went through 12 jugs. Yeah 6 won't cut it lol... though I'm 100% sure .45 super .45 super will go through a grizzly bear skull.
Great video! I have 2 10mm and 2 45 handguns. I also reload for both and have been trying to push the limits on both. I didn't get into casting my own projectiles, I have too many "hobbies" to fully get into it the way that I should to do it right. I wish you lived close to NC, would love to shoot some with you and pick your brain. I have been reloading for 6 years or so but would love to learn some of the things that you have learned through years of trial and error! Great video!!
My brother lives in Asheville. Really nice terrain down there
@@stuckcase7775 I live further towards the coast between Whiteville and Lumberton NC in the country which is great! Can shoot in the back yard any time I want!
@@hankfisher4229 up here, we say you can p-ss off the back porch
Lol
@@stuckcase7775 well, I was going to say that but you got the meaning lol. I could damn near piss off the front porch! 🤣🤣
I like both 45 Super and 10mm. I see the 10mm as being a more effective penetrator. However, I prefer the variation of being able to shoot 45 and 45 super from same gun.
And heavier lead. Thanks for the reply
@@stuckcase7775 curious, what is the benefit of shooting heavier lead?
@@zakattack467 momentum--objects with higher mass retain their motion--Newton’s laws
@@stuckcase7775 Thank you for your content Do you shoot 45 Super and 10mm heavier lead case bullet in a stock barrel?
@@thylandyoung5895 in the 45 yes
Excellent creative insightful test!
Both the 45 Super and the 10mm Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Bullets are Winners for preserving human lives and putting down Bears.
What type of Bullet Coating did you use?
Eastwood’s
Light Ford Blue
@@stuckcase7775
Will check it out, Thanks.
Just an idea: to catch deviating bullets like that .45 Super, what about constructing a plywood corral or trough, with walls on either side and maybe on the far end. Sure, plywood wouldn't stop a direct shot from either one of these monsters, but it might deflect or ricochet rounds once they've gone through some media and then slowed down a bit, and keep them inside the box.
The final measures of expansion or upset on HPs or SPs could be affected by that plywood, though.
That's a great idea.
Add sand in between
You may be on to something there
916 ft lbs on the 10mm...Dayyyuumm, that's a hot load!!
It is. 800x is the miracle-sadly discontinued-I’m glad I loaded up first
Hot but not the hottest
Not nuclear
Great video. You picked up another sub…. I’ve just started casting but been reloading close 30 years. You’re gonna probably laugh but I want to try a frozen jug of water with my 308 caliber air rifle. You’ve inspired me… I’m shooting a .309 Lee 120 grain projectile at 1,000 fps from my Texan air rifle. I’ve never recovered a bullet from this rifle. Three 5 gallon jugs of water isn’t enough. I bet frozen will do the trick!
That sounds bad a-
@@stuckcase7775 - Texan .308 air gun vs 6.5G versus 20 gallons of water:
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Those are some really powerful loads! They are like 357 Magnum level power. I love my 1911 but I have a 357 that would be ok for a critter in the woods that might want to attack me! HaHa! But those loads……. Man I love the power! I never realized just how powerful a 45 could be!
All about that case width. If someone made 45 acp today it'd definitely be up there with the super load.
Thank you sir, if I had a Glock 20 and paid 600 bucks and it saved my life once, that was a DAM GOOD investment.
Indeed
This guy hates milk. Definitely lactose intolerant.
getting into reloading 10mm, G40 factory barrel for now kkm on order. Question what spring weight do you run? i want to work up to near your levels but sill be able to run factory ammo. im thinking 20 to 22 lbs. what im loading now are 200gr rnfp coated 9.1gr IMR-BLUE ( blue dot mirror ) very accurate, and 9.6gr almost as accurate but with good jump in recoil. dont want to beat up the gun. what would you suggest? i will also want to load hotter rounds when the kkm comes in
Your stock spring will work at those load levels. The Glock in this vid has a Gen 3 spring conversion (plug and guide rod) and is a Wolf 24# spring. It handles most ammo that has been shot through it but some have had hiccups when under powered.
You will get excellent performance with Blue Dot in the 10mm. Don’t buy in to the naysayers. I still use it quite a bit with the 10 and some 45 super loads
I've never loaded any pistol ammo, but heck I never shot pistols. lol Next year you'll have to hit up one of the long range shoots Troy.
Hey Stuck Case can you tell me whats the Bhn on your hard cas bullets. Have you ever gas checked any of your bullets? Have you ever used Accurate 9 in your 10mm loads? When you load your ammo using Eastwood Blue, are you filling the grease groove? Any load data using Imr 800x in with 10mm jhp ?
I have watched all of your videos, you do a dam good job! Thanks keep them coming!!!!
The BHN is around 12. Depending on how much tin I put in and for which bullet. Some need help filling out the mold so I add tin up to approximately 5 percent. I do gas check my 300 AAC bullets but do not gas check my 45 or 10 mm bullets. AANo 9 is a fantastic 10 mm powder. You can’t get enough of it in the casing. The coating is applied in a tumbler-bullets and coating tumble for ten minutes then I bake them for twenty minutes at 400 degrees then air cool before sizing. I’ll refer to my notes and get back to you on the 800 x and 180 gr 10 mm loads. Video quality has gone down since my son moved to Ohio to go to work. He was my editor in chief and tech guy
good test
What is your OAL on the 45 if I don't load them short they don't cycle
1.255 to 1.27 depending on the bullet
Mistake in vid--super only went thru 2 the first time
My father-in-law says unthaw as well. Technically it is just thaw, but everyone knows what you meant. Good video!
Are you a Freemason?
No sir
I do not adhere at this time
@@stuckcase7775 thank goodness👍🏻
Do you use the stock Glock barrels?
No sir
That is a KKM barrel
@@stuckcase7775 at what point should one consider using an aftermarket barrel for a Glock 40 would you suggest?
@@poobank my change was for the reputation of KKM and previous experience with their product. The stock barrel will do most anything a person needs to do with a pistol. By no means I’m I advocating a necessary swap. It is simply my hobby. My interests.
All in all, shoot your stock barrel and tinker, observe, take good notes. Then decide it pursue an alternative.
@@stuckcase7775 Never mind my question. I see you used a stock KKM barrels for Glock and after market compensator barrels for your .45 ACP. I never shot my stock barrel .45 ACP Ruger P345 using 45 super loads. I need to some research.
10mm ...always..👍
It’s a good one
Can I buy some 45 super from you
No sir I do not
@@stuckcase7775 understand but that sucks, 450smc, can't find it nowhere, double tap hasn't had it in almost a damn year, you wouldn't happen to know where any is at with you, by the way I just found your channel subscribe and by God I love it.
@@OzzyTanks6969 get yourself some small primered once fired Federal or Blazer brass
They do anything my 45 Super brass will do but cheaper
The 45 is made more for close range. It's as effective as any round at point blank. It's not the most powerful, but it holds it's on pretty good at point blank range.
Agreed
In its magnum form, it can be truly impressive exceeding 900 ft lbs of energy
I have personally taken 45 super brass to 1050 ft lbs using 185 gr bullets
My testing has concluded to this point that +P and a 200 to 225 gr bullet is an excellent area to nestle in at. Not hard on the gun and 700 ft lbs will be a bullet that will not be recovered-using cast
45 For Americans . 2 Wars. Forever ! ( p.s. ) All Rounds have been hopped up in ALL CALIBERS )
Where did you get the load data?
Working up slowly, measuring my cases. Some of this is rework from ten years or more ago. I have a small notebook with hundreds of different loads for the 45 and other cartridges
I have that same hat
Sand makes a great stopper. You don’t need many buckets. 😂😂.
Would unthaw be a synonym for freeze?
In Appalachian-nope
Why don’t you use 185 s in both guns?
It might as well be a 10 mm then
Purpose is larger diameter with heavier mass
I have 185 gr bullets that shoot well
I like the large diameter meplat on the 45 slugs
Try Herco for 45 Super....it changed my life... haha
Another oldie
If I find some I may
Thx
Clearly 10mm is the BEST
If you say so
Lol
My only critique, you should have used a 200 grain bullet for the 10mm. Realistically, the 45 Super and 10mm are so close in performance and capability that it's almost impossible to argue for one over the other. Factory 10mm ammo is easier to find than 45 Super, but if you reload it doesn't matter. Good presentation!
Agreed
What kind of velocity does 45 super offer. I've really never heard of it but want one now
Sorry asked that before I watched
@@anthonysmith3132 depends on the bullet choice
185s about 1250 to 1300-nuclear-1550
230s 1100 to 1200
@@anthonysmith3132 45 super is by far the most flexible cartridge available to autos.
Can shoot bullseye loads clear up to full nuclear Rowland power levels-your choice-especially hand loading
Test after test, 10 mm always takes it
They are both excellent
Respectfully disagree. Never been a fan of the 45.
@@aarand01 that why America is great-we get to choose
@@stuckcase7775 absolutely. Have a buddy that prefers 22 mag?????
I thought it was unthawed.
Why didn’t you use 200 grain for each bullet? If your gonna compare then make it even
Because these bullets emulate a comparable design for each caliber. Simply going to a similar weight handicaps the 45 in the comparison. It’s sectional density is reduced drastically giving an extreme edge to the 10.
When loading both cartridges to similar pressure levels the 45 truly takes over-compare 10mm heavy stuff to 460 Rowland heavy stuff
If you just wanted to capture the slug there are better procedures.
Interesting shoot but you already knew the numbers so I'm confused as to the point of this.
I’ve tried all procedures that I knew of to your mention.
As to the point-two slugs from similar power cartridges of similar design and weight ratio per caliber in a similar test media-comparing penetration-thanks for allowing me to clarify if I didn’t make it clear-hope this helps
you can't unthaw ice. you can thaw it but you can't unthaw it.
Never said my communication is Harvard material-guess it’s just too hillbilly
We all know what he meant, nobody likes an unnecessary know it all. Thank you for the video Stuck Case.
Besides, he didn't say he unthawed it. He ALLOWED it to unthaw. So that just means he gave it a chance to freeze again. And he could certainly do that.
@@stuckcase7775 I knew just what you were talkin' about, Stuck Case! Really enjoyed the video, too. Semper Fi, TreeTop
@@TreeTop1947 thanks
Not many hayseed enough anymore
"un thaw" ?? what is that? ...leaving it as is, is what it is.
Bout as hillbilly as your punctuation and capitalization. You can eat shit at any time. I’m not woke and don’t give a f-ck about feelings so un thaw that!