Good question, to be able to run X265 benchmark, you must run a command “bcdedit /set useplatformclock yes” which absolutely messes with all Cinebench scores. I was actually validating this today and I get 29K score at same clocks once i disable that command!
I have an msi board all I did was use xmp and cpu boost and undervolted it .040 and my cinebench score was 27002 only thing shows beating it is threadripper 2990wx with 32 cores lol
Those temps are incredible given the work those cores are doing! To many people crank up the clocks and voltage and then wonder why they're overheating in 2-3 years once the thermal paste starts to dry and lose some of its efficacy.
I just ran my i9-12900k all @ P5.1Ghz / E4.1Ghz... adaptive core voltage at 1.350v with a -0.050v offset and pulling a Cinebench R23 score of 28460 at 89C (10 Min test throttle) can't seem to get my bios to work with actually setting each core specifically but still came to the conclusion that during the test it won't stay at requested bios core settings like yours when running a benchmark, maybe during gaming it will hold the higher clock?) I'm still doing testing as I'm sure I can drop my voltage a bit more or either up all my Perfomance Cores to 5.2Ghz and change nothing else? Planning on doing a Video if your interested?
Thanks for this! I'm running 5.3P/4.0E at 1.38v on linux kernel 5.15.1. Everything is stable except handbrake. I thought I had a colling problem with my Artic Freezer II liquid 420, could hardly OC at all and temps were stupid high even with mild OC settings. Well my Asus board allows you to use lga 1200 brackets. Everything mounted fine, I am waiting on the updated mount. Well last night I pulled the cooler and found I was not making good contact with the CPU. The issue is there are little stick on thick paper washers under the mounting studs. I did not torque down the mounting studs sufficiently to make good contact. Tightening them up and reinstalling the cool dropped my temps over 20C!! I don't get into the 90's now unless I'm pulling over 280 watts, however I've found any OC setting that goes past 240 watts hasn't been stable. I've also found undervolting via offset makes my system unstable and in particular can cause USB issues. My rad is somewhat limited as my case has an 8 drive stack for a Raid array right behind it. Since I don't need drive trays I'm building a smaller drive cage further away from the cooler because I found when I took the cage out my temps go down about 2-5C.
@@dinos22 I've ordered the LGA 1700 mounting kit from Artic and will report back my findings. Interestingly I let the bios characterize my cooler after the above fix and it's reporting 187 for the cooler. Pretty impressive, especially given there's an 8 drive cage right behind it with less than a half inch of clearance. But now I have a problem. My CPU bins at SP 81, with the cooler rated that high it wants to do 5.4/4.0 all core yet I can't get it stable no matter what voltage I try to apply. In particular it crashes in Handbrake and occasionally in a long run of s-tui stress (s-tui is a stress test in linux). I've downloaded and installed the phoronix test suite and will do some testing tonight. Any insight you may have on voltage settings, digi/vrm, etc would be great. One thing I have noticed when playing with adaptive voltage for the CPU is if I negative much more than -0.030 I start having USB issues. In any event at current settings, and about 1.43v I barely get above 80C under stress, HDD cage removed and those number are more like 75C max. My long term plan here is once I get 100% stable settings to do a custom loop with two 420mm rads and cool the CPU and GPU. In theory that should give me a near silent workstation, which I can get now at 5.2P/3.9E, and definitely when set to "auto" for CPU clocks.
I’m having the same problem with the Arctic liquid freezer ii 360 and I have the lga 1700 mounting kit I’ve tried remounting it but still overheating problems
I'm straight on going to copy and paste this overclock when I get my CPU - using an AIO when I get one with support for the CPU. I don't care so much that it gets warm.
Please don’t just straight copy, you will have to understand what variables you are going to have to need to push to optimise your overclock. You will also want to tune your of oc based on your call VID. My overclocking video should be serving you as a guide because I am afraid if you just go and copy it you might not be stable or get the results immediately
@@dinos22 Nope copying and pasting didn't work for me lol :) I have made a comment with what I got to work for now. Thanks again for your video. Thankfully overclocking on this type of ASUS boards are pretty straight forward if you have had something similar before. - I did as I write end up skipping core by core overclock and went with a "static" overclock instead. Hope my result can help someone just like your video are helping.
I am so confused… I did exactly like you said except my weak cores were 4 and 5 so I put 54 for them rest 55 but some how it only gone to 5.2GHz I don’t get it….
Great video thank you, have you ever experimented with the ASUS AI OC feature? I am using that on my 12900k right now and it's giving my 5500 up to 3 cores, the 5300 up to 6, then 5200 up to all. Then there is a OCTVB that will drop values down 100mhz if it hits a certain temp. I set voltage to adaptive with a .05. My vcore is right around 1.19/1.2 when at full load (Cinebench) and when doing single core its up near 1.29.
So I'm "done" for now with overclocking and testing. I also fiddled around on a core to core basis, but after quite some testing, I realized that I couldn't improve my CB23 score significantly over what I settled with. I will also say, that unfortunately the auto oc was not stable and that is of course a shame. So my result: 63*4 (252) runs of CB23 was finally stable and so was all the normal tests you would run like shown in the video. My CB23 result: 27765 - That is absolutely not world record, but it could be worse (I hope)? Here are the settings and the temps: MB: ROG Strix Z690 -F Gaming WIFI Cache: 43 like in the video. Mem: XMP 1 - Type: Fury Beast 5200MHz 40 40 40 80 latency. i9-12900K final clocks: 5GHz all P-cores. 4GHz all E-cores. - I did not improve my score noticeably by tuning per core. I did however get a lot of stability issues, so after a longer period of testing, I decided to drop that for now. Core: 1.325v - I just couldn't repeatedly pass CB23 with less and I wanted to pass minimum 252 runs to ensure a high level of stability. Max P-core temp: 89 degrees. Min P-core temp: 80 degrees. Max E-core temp: 76 degrees. Min E-Core temp: 74 degrees. CPU Load-line Calibration setting: 5 - (Should not matter if you set it or keep it at the recommended 4). Hope it will help someone at least a bit.
Does load line calibration like even really do anything when you're using static voltage. That's strange the i9 can't go all core 5ghz 4ghz ecore 43 ring on less voltage than that? My i712700k runs that exactly well 42 on the ring. At 1.29vcore. I'm pretty sure that to really run the ring above 42 u have to disable ecores or crank voltage like u have. Lower ring by one bin and try 1.3vcore. I couldn't get dynamic oc and Adaptive voltage stable for shit it would run good awhile and then all of a sudden a week in crash oc setting not stable. I couldn't never figure out what it was.
@Raymond David Smith Yes, llc means everything to voltage when under load... My 13900ks does 6.2 p , 4.8 E, 5.4 ring HT off... 1.420v. Llc7 ac/dc set to .01 with a lot of other tinkering. 8800cl36. Under full load, llc7 sits that at 1.360v its vdroop
Followed this awesome guide OCing my 12900k, works a treat. I can't get 5.5ghz yet without crashing during Cinebench, but 5.4ghz works very nicely. My main question: you selected RAM settings via a pre-selected profile that ASUS apparently added, but, my RAM (Corsair) does not appear as a preset on my Z690 Maximus Extreme. How do I get it to appear here? Cheers Dinos.
@@dinos22 Yes have now got the latest BIOS. My bad I had misunderstood what to select on the RAM screen. My sticks are Corsair Dominator platinum ddr5 5200 2x16gb, so these are Micron A DRAM I think. Interested to see what I can push these up to, but from stock 5200 it seems I can only select 5400. You seem to have gone from 4800 up to 5400!
WTF Am I missing. Is HWinfo64 and Windows 11 not working properly for clock speed on 12900K and only CPU-z giving an accurate reading. I am 100% going to try your settings or attempt them on MSI/12900K. Thanks for sharing the video
Nice video Dino's, I enjoy listening to many people opinions on top of my own so please don't devalue your experience just because someone else might of shown something similar. That's a strong sample you've got there at SP 93, I'm guessing it's maybe a Vietnam chip ?
Hey man I’m at a loss. I know this was posted a while ago but never less. I have latest bios but as soon as I did all my changes and tried to load a game I got a blue screen of death with sad face and restarting which then took me back to the bios settings after it crashed. Even just having the ddr5 set to auto and changing the cores and power to 55 still didn’t like it. I’m running the same board, i9 129000k, 3080OC 10GB with DDR5 4x16gb ram. I’m at a loss with my pc as I’ve been having major issues with trying to play this one game and increase the graphics on the already very resource hungry game/server and then add obs to it. So I really want to maximize what I can do with it. On the other hand others who have the 3080oc 12gb can run the game fine (they don’t use obs) Where others that run 2090 with max settings and use shadowplay frames do drop and get a bit laggy with head pops now and then but manage overall good quality. Makes no sense to me.
I got the 12900k coming in 2 days and i went with the asus strix z690-a. I could not find ddr 5 anywhere in stock and the asus z690 strix-a is the highest end ddr 4 supported board
Thx for a great video Dino! I'm on a Asus ROG STRIX Z690-A DDR4 mobo with an 12900K. A question about OC potential: My ASUS SP rating is 78 and cooler rating is 162. I can max push my CPU to Pcore 5.1 / Ecore 4.0 on all cores @ 1.300V and min/max cache at 42. If I want to go Pcore 5.2 on all cores I have to raise the volts so much I get thermal throttling. I can actually still return my 12900K for free and get another one. What do you think the chance is that I get a new 12900K that performs better? I think you have a very fine one, so would need to be very lucky to get one as good at that, but maybe just a tad better than my current would be fine. Guess my question is if you have any idea what a reasonable OC would be. I have a feeling my 12900K is not the best overclocker, but it's hard to get a feeling on the internet.
@@evgenyskokov3090 Hey man. I ended up returning and got a new 12900K. Not sure whether to laugh or cry...the old CPU was SP78...the new CPU is SP78 too :-D At least it was about 80 USD cheaper on a Black Friday deal. Anyway, I will use it for gaming, not setting records, so guess 5.1 on all Pcores is OK.
Great video & well explained. For those without Asus boards , do you know if it is possible to set per core multiplier , perhaps through XTU? My 12900k arrives soon , can't wait
I also found the cooling was fine compared to reviews getting 100c all the time. Mine hasn't been over 80c at 1.325v llc6 at 5.2ghz p cores and 4.2ghz e cores
Agree. I have a coolermaster aio 360 rgb. It's got the bracket.and backplate of lga 1551. Put it into my z690 rog strix and plug and play as well as the screws on it All retro fit
Excellent tutorial thank you. I am still not clear on one point. If we set for example the performance core ratio to for example 52 on all of them, but then we set the per core performance to for example 51 on all of them, which will take precedence, and how will the final behaviour be?
@@M00nsave445 if you opt to tweak per core ratio, you are essentially instructing the bios on how many cores will need to be at specific frequency. You want to set them to work in a way that your top one or two cores work at higher frequency than when you use 3 or more cores. Every CPU is different and some may not be better with this approach so you have to test to see what works for you
Happy new years and Merry Xmas Dinos :) I've been following your OC guides for a while and they've helped me greatly. I have a question regarding the Asus Z690 series, are the AI Features also prevalent in Z690 TUF DDR4? I mean I know that board is quite lackluster but it least it performs and overclocks quite well compared to the DDR4 mobos competition, is also compatible with AIOs without an adapter bracket, and I like their BIOS (along with MSI as well) compared to other manufactures. Do you have any idea if I'll be able to get the same tuning features available as well? That would really help finalize my decision. It's gonna be either the Z690 TUF DDR4 or MSI Z690 Tomahawk or Edge DDR. Thank you so much! Hoping to trying a similar OC once I get everything :)
Sorry man i have no experience with asus range or any other range. One thing I believe they are share is bios features and it really is more of getting a board that had a decent feature set including decent PWM so I’d probably have a look at a few videos such as buildzoid to see what he says about spec. I’ve had more experience with Asus in general and they are a solid bunch. Honestly i have not touched MSI for a decade but i did see others using them so they can’t be too bad either
with these settings my win will not boot... i have a asrock steelseries z690 and the i9 12th the asrock board is so sad and was my first and last asrock board
You wont be getting 5.5 ghz unless you have a liquid subzero sub-ambient chiller and disable hyperthreading lol. This is from my experience. Theres so much efficiency degradation overclocking even .1 mhz after 5.1
@@dinos22 No problem. Got another question, have you tried setting the timer resolution to 0.5? Mine keeps resetting randomly to 1 or 2 even. It doesn't wanna stick. Is this not a thing anymore for CPUs like Alder Lake?
@@dinos22 That's a nice block. It has a wide fin array. No surprise it works well with Alder Lake. Did the block mounting holes match the motherboard holes?
Hey mate, why is yours say cpu/core voltage but on mine it’s different I have the z690 gaming wifi -f it says somethjng totally different but is the same thing. I Ben trying to find where the over clocking section is everything else beteeen out motherboard is identical besides thatS
I have an Asus z690 E gaming wifi but I can only see AI tweaker instead of extreme tweaker. Do I have to do something additional to enable this feature?
My Z690-E board stops booting with post code stuck at Fb after 2-3 reboots, with stock settings, each time requiring a CMOS clear... Any ideas why? I am suspecting the board is trying to overclock the shit out of my CPU by default...
After having my 12900K for awhile now, on a strix z690a I see your cpu is using 225w which is extremely low. Your SP score isnt much higher than mine, so I am assuming you are not removing the power limits. My cpu at 5.1/4.0 with no limits can consume 280w and hit 29K r23
Please help. Same cpu. Cpu keeps running at high speed on idle. Cpu load is 5%. I tried alot of things but it wont downclock. Powerplan on balanced doesnt help either
Amazing video @dinos22 . Question: am interested in the heat and power draw difference between the 12900k and the 12700k. I am building a new system, watercooled (3x 360 rads), so am interested in whether the 12700k should just be the go-to given the similar performance and lower heat, or, if suitably watercooled the heat generation of an OCed 12900k becomes a non-issue. What do you think? Cheers 👍
@@dinos22 ok cheers mate. Just out of interest, was the WC system you did your testing on? Apologies if I missed it! Think you said a custom WC loop but I don’t think I saw details. Thank you.
So I just got my 12600K System up and running after my old X99 system finally died. But In Cinebench stock settings on my 12600K I get 17740 in score??
Since 3DMark11 or newer version, any CPU seems get bit/little "bottleneck" or no any "bottleneck" for graphics tests except CPU tests (physics, AI, combined...). But yes 3DMark Vantage or older 3DMark - you try it. lol
How come that your Cinebench score is that low? 🤔 Your acore is basically what a stock 12900k spits out. Im at 5.2ghz all core and getting around 30100 - validated through HWBot.
It may not always be a great indicator, best to have a play and see how you go. I wouldn’t worry too much, just make the best of what it is. My intention was to give some ideas for people to have a play
Curious, I tried this with my 12900k setup and could not get the system to boot or be stable (see last line of paragraph). I have since just set the OC to allow for AI overclocking. She runs hot, up towards 98 degrees but I'm getting 28,000 score on cinebench. I thought R23? not 100% sure. I haven't gotten into overclocking since my original I7 920 which I settled on 4GHz. Didn't bother OC'ing the 9900k. Really wanting to get into a manual overclock but am struggling on understanding what everything does these days. Is there a good write up anywhere for what all the different voltages settings do that you're aware of? My AI Tuning indicates my silicon is garbage compared to what you have in the video. Also interesting, I tend to get 1 core that won't budge above 75C while the rest all are a toasty 85+ spiking to 98 after a few minutes of testing. This I find very odd. Edit - just saw your pinned comment about the scores
My 12700kf scored 24997 multi and 2022 single and only hits 66c in r23 all cores at 5.2 and e cores at 4.1. Really should get a quality custom loop if your worries about temps
thats a waste man, redo settings!! im at 28k even with 69C and 1.31 duriing boost and SA VID .9 @ 5.5 Ghz on OCTVB+2 profile, 5.3*2 5.2*5 and 5.1*8, 4.0 E core, The adaptive undervolting is the way man.. the all core does shit for single core, im scoring sround 860 in cpuz and just shy of 12,000 in multicore cpuz on DDR4
Please don’t copy settings but rather try to understand the basic variables i am using to improve OC. This will require some effort on your end to get settings right for your system
@@dinos22 Appreciate your answer.. Forgot to tell, that I did not copied everything, instead of 5.5Mhz I stayed to 5.3, core voltage was set to 1.3. That was caused a BSOD.. Later I tried 5.2Mhz, played with 1.33-1.36 voltage, pc restarted automatically after 10sec to a few minutes, wile being on desktop, or watching youtube.. Any ideas? Is it possible, that voltage too high? :)
@@audriusg1536 what cooler are you using. What temperature are you seeing in bios, what temps are you seeing in windows during load and idle, what test are you using, what loadline calibration level are you on, are you sure your ram is stable, what are you setting for ram exactly, how are you testing ram stability, have a lot of other questions
I reckon it might be fine with my second OC around low voltage stuff i was experimenting with. This really depends on your CPU a lot man, also case used, ambient etc, hard to know
Doubtful. I have not been impressed with the 360 Corsair I have on an 11900k. I now have an Artic Freezer 420 and it seems to be more cooler than my CPU can handle ie if I run bios optimized for OC I get crashes in AVX heavy apps like Handbrake. The Artic's have a much better pump and all of them use a 38mm thick rad vs 26mm for most AIO's. Price is comparable.
@@hullbreachdetected4846 my 240 h115i handles it with ease! I have a very good case for airflow though. That might help too :). 8 fans in total. Running 5.4ghz
Is there any way I could direct message you and pay you for your time? Amazon sold me a crap desktop out of frustration and wasting thousands of dollars I built my own computer a year ago using the Asus Z 690 e motherboard, 64 gigabytes of ddr5 G scale ram, I also have the Intel I9 13k chipset. And a few other amenities for the last year all I'm trying to do is just edit pictures and some video here and there and I get nothing but random crashes all the time.
Hey man sorry to hear about the troubles, I don’t really do that sort of stuff but would recommend you find a local PC store that does servicing, I have no doubt they’d be able to help you identify the root cause.
Please see other comments in here, all those are answered. Cooler is custom EK loop with Magnitude block, yes i spotted that and it was a registry fix, now score around 29.5K
@@fifagi if you have a default operating system, you should not have the problem. The reason i had an issue was because i had to enable HPET timer for X265 benchmark. To disable it i had to got to CMD and type “Bcdedit /set useplatformclock no”
@@dinos22 I don't know why... I used the comand, but i have 19000 points whit default setting, 20378 whit overclock @5.3 ghz I find the problem: e-core non "started" for a setting on msconfig. Now works well Thanks
Should i go with KF or K? and 2nd question, i need as fast a clocking rate as possible so should i go 12700K or 12900K? (I do flight sim so 5 to 10 frames makes a huge difference). I guess my question should be more like , Is the price difference worth going to 12900K or should i grab the 12700K or 12700KF and overclock it to 5.2 ? it would seem that the 12700 could overclock to 5.2 based on the 12900K overclocking to 5.5. Am i off-base on that or does that sound reasonable?
K or KF, for your use I don’t think it will make a difference if you are focusing on gaming and obviously will use a discrete GPU. Buying CPUs a silicon lottery, you could get a bad overclocking chip or a good one. I have a solid chip here, it will be a really good example of what to expect. In terms of whether you should get a Core i9 or i7, keep in mind that Core i9 is highest bin processor so that intel makes so naturally the best result will likely be with a core i9
Saw this video today of Microsoft Flightsim, check out the frames as well as power used and load temperatures th-cam.com/video/mRdfJplVryQ/w-d-xo.html Figured this would be informative for you
Stock is 4.9GHz all P-core load and 3.7GHz on E-cores. This is all core load but remember stock also boosts cores are lower core load to up to 5.2, 3.9
That’s very high man, I’d probably revert back to stock and run stock if you need that much voltage. Honestly look for your max all core at about 1.25v under heavy load and up to 1.35 gaming load. That’s what I’d do on my rig
Very well explained mate. Question though. When you do cinebenchR23 stability test and it passed without throttling. Do you need to do prime95 test as well for stability testing too?
Hey Hendrik, you can if that’s what you do with your PC. I normally check the system to make sure the memory is stable so I’ll run memtest, superpi and then I run some workloads that I’d normally see so potentially video editing, encoding, gaming etc. you can run prime but you’re very unlikely to ever load the PC that hard
@@dinos22 Thank you for the reply. But wait. my Rog Strix z690-A (ddr4) Is a bit average motherboard compared to your maximus. I don't see the need for a ddr5 yet and yes I run memtest thru it's bios. My old hyperX is rated 3200mhz. I got it to run at 3600Mhz!! mate it's so amazing that it past and run memtest successfully. I have a 12700KF and running at 5.1Ghz @1.95 volts. Did CinebenchR23 for several times and passed the test. 1 bad processor just like your's is reaching 96 Degrees celsius during stability testing but no throttling.
@@dinos22 sorry typo error. I mean it's running at 1.295 Volts @ 5.1 Gigahertz (12700KF). In your case if you pass cinebenchR23 you don't need prime 95 to do stress test right? just memtest will do.
i just ordered 12900k and aorus elite z690 ddr4 , i allready own corsair cl 15 3000mhz 4x8 32gb it performed great with my i9 9900k but is this fast enough for the 12900k or should i upgrade to 3600mhz or higher?
@@pcgamerzzzchannel3407 you can keep trying. Maybe, you can get it to 3400 or 3600. I have an 3000 overclocked to 3200. I do not think it worth getting the extra 400hz for the price you'd pay
I guess it depends on what workloads you use it for. Generally try keep latency down, gear ratio 1:1 and you will get excellent performance. I’ve been doing some testing with 4000 cas14 DDR4 and performance was impressive
@@dinos22 Corsair 16 GB DDR4-4000 Kit CMW16GX4M2Z4000C18 2x8 159 euro , i could buy 2 for 32gb 4x 8 and resell my old ram but i dont if cl 18 will affect the performance?
How do you get all this with these temperatures in a 12900k friend, here at benckmarch with water cooler coolermaster 240 ML which is simple but it is water cooler in HVMonitor the temperatures hit 100 degrees with the asus board bios in default mode, which cooler is ? thanks
My 12900k is always on 4900mhz all core on idle while gaming always. On idle it draws 120 watts please help. I have the Maximus hero. I have the stock bios settings. I’ve changed a few things nothing worked. Sp is 83. I don’t know what im doing wrong. It’s my first Asus board
Hi dinos so you know if the maximus hero z690 has thesame setting as your z690 maximus apex and do you know what cooler or cooling system I should use??
What do you mean when you say “same setting”? In terms of cooling, any triple AIO is probably not a bad pick. If you can afford custom blocks then even better
recently upgraded my system with a Auros Z690 Elite AX board and a i7 12700K being cooled by a Galahad 360 AIO. Having difficulties finding a stable OC, I can do 5.0Ghz no problem but if I go to 5.1 system crashes and reboots. Temps are great...40C on regular use, 60C on stress tests. Not sure what's blocking me from going higher?
Is this possible on my ASUs TUF Z690 D4 Wifi or are these only for the highest end boards. I hope I haven’t gimped myself completely! 😔. If you could give a good guide for us plebs that would be appreciated.
Thanks dinos22 for this video it's been really helpful. Just upgraded after about eight years and reading up on all this new stuff is quite challenging. Trying to get my old brain wrapped round it all. (My first overclock was an Intel Celeron 330Mhz I think to about 500Mhz It was sold to me as best bang for buck in the 1990's. It was a lot simpler back then!) SuperMax I've got the same motherboard as you. You may like to know that ASUS has just released new BIOS for the board. Haven't checked it all out yet but it's got some new overclocking goodies in the Tweaker tab including auto tuning.
@@dinos22 Hello Dinos ! Thanks for your video. Very helpfull ! I'm in the same case. ASUS formula Z690 + CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM DDR5 32 GO (2 X 16 GO) 5200 MHZ CL38. Blue screen with the XMP1 or 2. Any suggestion lord ?
Asus rog strix z690 a wifi d4, but i had to download an internet driver because the internet didnt work out the box. Second I made the mistake of putting the ram on slots A1 and B1 so once I put them on A2 And B2 It should work hopefully.
Asus Z690 Formula and 12900K user here. I've managed to go as far as 5.5k MHz, Windows boots at 5.6k but fails at load test, boot failure at 5.7k. 5.5k is pretty stable, load tested on both multi and single, and tired a few recent release games. I've tried to play around with Voltage figures but anywhere above 5.5k I have to amp up Voltage above 1.45, which isn't going to happen. The rumours proved to be true, about 12900k being super hot hardware. I have a corsair H150i 360 AIO hooked up with condactonaut, and I am getting 60C on single core load test @ 5.5k MHz, 90C on multi core @ 5.2k MHz (CPU package shoots up 100C!!). Definitely needs better cooling, but luckily I already have a custom cooling loop planned, on the way. Will be running 2x480 and 2x360 rads (1000D case). Cinebench R23 Multi: 28859 pts Single: 2100 pts
I feel like my MSI tomahawk is a pos. Sometimes it doesn't want to save the bios and reset. 1.3v won't even give me 5.1/4.0. I feel like I got a bad board and a bad chip lol double whammy.
I have no experience with MSI personally. I’ve mostly used Gigabyte and Asus over the last decade or more and both have always been great. I do see a few extreme OCers using MSI so can’t be that bad but I’m sorry hard for me to help here, not very knowledgeable with MSI
@@dinos22 I have always been an ASUS person but being an early adopter of a ddr4 board, MSI is what was available. th-cam.com/video/-sd2DDL-x_w/w-d-xo.html put these settings into my bios and booted into windows with zero issues. Stress tested for 10 mins before heading to work and hopefully it will still be running when I get home. 5.4ghz on pcores and 4.0 on e cores.
@@dinos22 The thing im not understanding is that der8auer was on an MSI board and I followed his guide and even in his video on a 360MM aio hits 100c. 1.3V with 5.1 pcore, 4.0 e cores. I see your video and go wtf, how? Then I see the video I linked you and I can boot into windows at 5.4pcore/4.0e core and start stress testing. 12th gen is a crazy new beast to O.C. would be really cool if you got your hands on an MSI board for some testing.
So if i want best performance for gaming wich usually dont even get close to the load from cinebench and programs like that. Do i overclock first and then overvolt or undervolt first and then overklock and can they be done together. Can i undervolt and in the same time crank up the overclock?
@@dinos22 like i guressed then. we want to achive best stable whit best fo both worlds. Im exited my things arrive on thursday. I have had my 9700k unicorn at 5.1 for half a year now. But it has like only haft of the cores so this will my fun.
@dinos22 I’m new to overclocking. Why do you have to undervolt? What happens if u don’t undervolt and overclock? And are u using a air cooler? What the max u can overclock to?
You don’t have to OC or undervolt, this is really here for more advanced users. Undervolt is basically a process if using less volts than what motherboard gives at stock. This will improve your load temperature mostly but not all CPUs can do it, it really depends on quality of silicon and every CPU is different. Overclocking is much the same, you essentially increase CPU frequency over stock but it’s chip dependent. With overclocking you produce more heat and need better cooling. I’d recommend watercooling whether stock or OC. WC is generally very quiet and keeps chips running cool
Why CB23 score is so low? 17500, but should be 27000+
Good question, to be able to run X265 benchmark, you must run a command “bcdedit /set useplatformclock yes” which absolutely messes with all Cinebench scores. I was actually validating this today and I get 29K score at same clocks once i disable that command!
It even messed with 3D11 badly, check out both scores with this setting reset imgur.com/a/DZZ3YsY
Pinning this post so people who ask the same question can see the reply
Cone bench was running very slow. Should be 27,000 stock 30,000 over clicked
I have an msi board all I did was use xmp and cpu boost and undervolted it .040 and my cinebench score was 27002 only thing shows beating it is threadripper 2990wx with 32 cores lol
Those temps are incredible given the work those cores are doing! To many people crank up the clocks and voltage and then wonder why they're overheating in 2-3 years once the thermal paste starts to dry and lose some of its efficacy.
Very interesting, my journey begins... Thank you, Dinos
I just ran my i9-12900k all @ P5.1Ghz / E4.1Ghz... adaptive core voltage at 1.350v with a -0.050v offset and pulling a Cinebench R23 score of 28460 at 89C (10 Min test throttle) can't seem to get my bios to work with actually setting each core specifically but still came to the conclusion that during the test it won't stay at requested bios core settings like yours when running a benchmark, maybe during gaming it will hold the higher clock?)
I'm still doing testing as I'm sure I can drop my voltage a bit more or either up all my Perfomance Cores to 5.2Ghz and change nothing else?
Planning on doing a Video if your interested?
Thanks man, awesome vid, subbed! This was exactly what I was looking for 😀
Thanks for this! I'm running 5.3P/4.0E at 1.38v on linux kernel 5.15.1. Everything is stable except handbrake. I thought I had a colling problem with my Artic Freezer II liquid 420, could hardly OC at all and temps were stupid high even with mild OC settings. Well my Asus board allows you to use lga 1200 brackets. Everything mounted fine, I am waiting on the updated mount. Well last night I pulled the cooler and found I was not making good contact with the CPU. The issue is there are little stick on thick paper washers under the mounting studs. I did not torque down the mounting studs sufficiently to make good contact. Tightening them up and reinstalling the cool dropped my temps over 20C!! I don't get into the 90's now unless I'm pulling over 280 watts, however I've found any OC setting that goes past 240 watts hasn't been stable. I've also found undervolting via offset makes my system unstable and in particular can cause USB issues.
My rad is somewhat limited as my case has an 8 drive stack for a Raid array right behind it. Since I don't need drive trays I'm building a smaller drive cage further away from the cooler because I found when I took the cage out my temps go down about 2-5C.
Interesting insight with cooler issue, thanks for sharing, hopefully it helps someone else!
@@dinos22 I've ordered the LGA 1700 mounting kit from Artic and will report back my findings. Interestingly I let the bios characterize my cooler after the above fix and it's reporting 187 for the cooler. Pretty impressive, especially given there's an 8 drive cage right behind it with less than a half inch of clearance. But now I have a problem. My CPU bins at SP 81, with the cooler rated that high it wants to do 5.4/4.0 all core yet I can't get it stable no matter what voltage I try to apply. In particular it crashes in Handbrake and occasionally in a long run of s-tui stress (s-tui is a stress test in linux). I've downloaded and installed the phoronix test suite and will do some testing tonight. Any insight you may have on voltage settings, digi/vrm, etc would be great. One thing I have noticed when playing with adaptive voltage for the CPU is if I negative much more than -0.030 I start having USB issues. In any event at current settings, and about 1.43v I barely get above 80C under stress, HDD cage removed and those number are more like 75C max.
My long term plan here is once I get 100% stable settings to do a custom loop with two 420mm rads and cool the CPU and GPU. In theory that should give me a near silent workstation, which I can get now at 5.2P/3.9E, and definitely when set to "auto" for CPU clocks.
I’m having the same problem with the Arctic liquid freezer ii 360 and I have the lga 1700 mounting kit I’ve tried remounting it but still overheating problems
I'm straight on going to copy and paste this overclock when I get my CPU - using an AIO when I get one with support for the CPU. I don't care so much that it gets warm.
Please don’t just straight copy, you will have to understand what variables you are going to have to need to push to optimise your overclock. You will also want to tune your of oc based on your call VID. My overclocking video should be serving you as a guide because I am afraid if you just go and copy it you might not be stable or get the results immediately
@@dinos22 Nope copying and pasting didn't work for me lol :) I have made a comment with what I got to work for now. Thanks again for your video. Thankfully overclocking on this type of ASUS boards are pretty straight forward if you have had something similar before. - I did as I write end up skipping core by core overclock and went with a "static" overclock instead. Hope my result can help someone just like your video are helping.
I am so confused… I did exactly like you said except my weak cores were 4 and 5 so I put 54 for them rest 55 but some how it only gone to 5.2GHz I don’t get it….
Could we possibly get undervolting guide too. We have already so many oc guides but literally 0 good undervolting guides for current gen
I did sort of touch on it here. For more extensive guides I’d recommend also having a look at a friend’s YT page >> Scatterbencher
Great video thank you, have you ever experimented with the ASUS AI OC feature? I am using that on my 12900k right now and it's giving my 5500 up to 3 cores, the 5300 up to 6, then 5200 up to all. Then there is a OCTVB that will drop values down 100mhz if it hits a certain temp. I set voltage to adaptive with a .05. My vcore is right around 1.19/1.2 when at full load (Cinebench) and when doing single core its up near 1.29.
Honestly not much but it sounds like you’ve got a cracker of a CPU, enjoy and thanks for the comment :)
@@dinos22 Thanks!
So I'm "done" for now with overclocking and testing. I also fiddled around on a core to core basis, but after quite some testing, I realized that I couldn't improve my CB23 score significantly over what I settled with. I will also say, that unfortunately the auto oc was not stable and that is of course a shame. So my result: 63*4 (252) runs of CB23 was finally stable and so was all the normal tests you would run like shown in the video. My CB23 result: 27765 - That is absolutely not world record, but it could be worse (I hope)? Here are the settings and the temps:
MB: ROG Strix Z690 -F Gaming WIFI
Cache: 43 like in the video.
Mem: XMP 1 - Type: Fury Beast 5200MHz 40 40 40 80 latency.
i9-12900K final clocks: 5GHz all P-cores. 4GHz all E-cores. - I did not improve my score noticeably by tuning per core. I did however get a lot of stability issues, so after a longer period of testing, I decided to drop that for now.
Core: 1.325v - I just couldn't repeatedly pass CB23 with less and I wanted to pass minimum 252 runs to ensure a high level of stability.
Max P-core temp: 89 degrees. Min P-core temp: 80 degrees.
Max E-core temp: 76 degrees. Min E-Core temp: 74 degrees.
CPU Load-line Calibration setting: 5 - (Should not matter if you set it or keep it at the recommended 4).
Hope it will help someone at least a bit.
Thank you for sharing your journey, overclocking is about the journey as much as the end result heh
You should be able to go well under 1.325 @ 5.0...
Does load line calibration like even really do anything when you're using static voltage. That's strange the i9 can't go all core 5ghz 4ghz ecore 43 ring on less voltage than that? My i712700k runs that exactly well 42 on the ring. At 1.29vcore. I'm pretty sure that to really run the ring above 42 u have to disable ecores or crank voltage like u have. Lower ring by one bin and try 1.3vcore. I couldn't get dynamic oc and Adaptive voltage stable for shit it would run good awhile and then all of a sudden a week in crash oc setting not stable. I couldn't never figure out what it was.
@@sagerdood yes my i7 does 1.29.
@Raymond David Smith Yes, llc means everything to voltage when under load... My 13900ks does 6.2 p , 4.8 E, 5.4 ring HT off... 1.420v. Llc7 ac/dc set to .01 with a lot of other tinkering. 8800cl36. Under full load, llc7 sits that at 1.360v its vdroop
Thanks for the video. Very informative!
You’re welcome, glad it helps
Followed this awesome guide OCing my 12900k, works a treat. I can't get 5.5ghz yet without crashing during Cinebench, but 5.4ghz works very nicely. My main question: you selected RAM settings via a pre-selected profile that ASUS apparently added, but, my RAM (Corsair) does not appear as a preset on my Z690 Maximus Extreme. How do I get it to appear here? Cheers Dinos.
Thank you Ser Xav! In terms of RAM question, that’s up to Asus engineering team to test and validate. Have you tried the latest bios?
@@dinos22 Yes have now got the latest BIOS. My bad I had misunderstood what to select on the RAM screen. My sticks are Corsair Dominator platinum ddr5 5200 2x16gb, so these are Micron A DRAM I think. Interested to see what I can push these up to, but from stock 5200 it seems I can only select 5400. You seem to have gone from 4800 up to 5400!
@@Ser_Xav you can manually override it and try more
@@dinos22 cheers mate will look into that 👍.
Latest R23 score following this guide is 29499: i.postimg.cc/qM7D0PkG/R23-001.jpg
Awesome video, thank you! It will serve as a great guide - you got a sub from me.
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WTF Am I missing. Is HWinfo64 and Windows 11 not working properly for clock speed on 12900K and only CPU-z giving an accurate reading. I am 100% going to try your settings or attempt them on MSI/12900K. Thanks for sharing the video
New generation, happens until software guys update it
@@dinos22 thanks for reply,I just assumed Window s 11 would have been accurate by now
Nice video Dino's, I enjoy listening to many people opinions on top of my own so please don't devalue your experience just because someone else might of shown something similar. That's a strong sample you've got there at SP 93, I'm guessing it's maybe a Vietnam chip ?
Not sure tbh
Can you please show how to overclock the graphics cores on the 12900k. I’m waiting for a graphics card so I am going to game without a card
your VID cores are ridiculously low voltage compared to mine, might are into the 1.4's for most of them and high 1.3's for the other ones.
Yeah silicone lottery, i tested 6 chips
Great guide
Hi,
I have a z690 hero maximus and 12700k.
Can you please do a video on the 12700k as well. Thanks
It won’t be any different to 12900K really
I love your video bro. A friendly suggestion add links to the program's you use. Anyway thanks for all your efforts
Thanks, I’ll keep it in mind
Thanks you for you this guide
Nice vid brother. So i know E-Cores are all 4ghz but, was the P-Cores 5.5ghz on 6 cores & 5.2ghz on worst performing 2 cores? Thanks
Hey man I’m at a loss. I know this was posted a while ago but never less. I have latest bios but as soon as I did all my changes and tried to load a game I got a blue screen of death with sad face and restarting which then took me back to the bios settings after it crashed.
Even just having the ddr5 set to auto and changing the cores and power to 55 still didn’t like it.
I’m running the same board, i9 129000k, 3080OC 10GB with DDR5 4x16gb ram.
I’m at a loss with my pc as I’ve been having major issues with trying to play this one game and increase the graphics on the already very resource hungry game/server and then add obs to it. So I really want to maximize what I can do with it.
On the other hand others who have the 3080oc 12gb can run the game fine (they don’t use obs)
Where others that run 2090 with max settings and use shadowplay frames do drop and get a bit laggy with head pops now and then but manage overall good quality.
Makes no sense to me.
I dont understand why the core was not going over 5.2 while under load and 5.5 at idle?
This type of overclock disables the ability to have your cup idle?
How do you know what gear to pick when selecting ram speed?
I got the 12900k coming in 2 days and i went with the asus strix z690-a. I could not find ddr 5 anywhere in stock and the asus z690 strix-a is the highest end ddr 4 supported board
Good choice man, difference in performance isn’t huge currently as DDR5 is still fairly new and manufacturers haven’t optimised yet
What your setting for your overclock ?
Just got my z690-a and 12900k combo under water today. What Oc you using?
Thx for a great video Dino!
I'm on a Asus ROG STRIX Z690-A DDR4 mobo with an 12900K. A question about OC potential:
My ASUS SP rating is 78 and cooler rating is 162. I can max push my CPU to Pcore 5.1 / Ecore 4.0 on all cores @ 1.300V and min/max cache at 42. If I want to go Pcore 5.2 on all cores I have to raise the volts so much I get thermal throttling.
I can actually still return my 12900K for free and get another one. What do you think the chance is that I get a new 12900K that performs better? I think you have a very fine one, so would need to be very lucky to get one as good at that, but maybe just a tad better than my current would be fine. Guess my question is if you have any idea what a reasonable OC would be. I have a feeling my 12900K is not the best overclocker, but it's hard to get a feeling on the internet.
Honestly no one can give you a good answer here. Your OC is effectively same as mine. I am also 5.1 on all cores and 4 on e cores
I got SP84 :((( unlucky .. and can't change , coz order 2.5 weeks ago from newegg
@@evgenyskokov3090 Hey man. I ended up returning and got a new 12900K. Not sure whether to laugh or cry...the old CPU was SP78...the new CPU is SP78 too :-D At least it was about 80 USD cheaper on a Black Friday deal. Anyway, I will use it for gaming, not setting records, so guess 5.1 on all Pcores is OK.
@@Mortenserv how u back ur CPU ?) I buy from Newegg , but 14 days gone :(
I’m from Denmark and the retailer offers 30 days return so took advantage of that :-)
Great video & well explained. For those without Asus boards , do you know if it is possible to set per core multiplier , perhaps through XTU? My 12900k arrives soon , can't wait
Yes you can but in XTU it may not be a permanent change, bioses should all have these options
on z690 thanks for this it helped me out I have my p cores at 5.2 and e cores at 4.0
I also found the cooling was fine compared to reviews getting 100c all the time. Mine hasn't been over 80c at 1.325v llc6 at 5.2ghz p cores and 4.2ghz e cores
@AmpEdition get Asus board. It has both LGA 15xx/12xx holes as well as 1700. Use old mounting bracket = win
Agree. I have a coolermaster aio 360 rgb. It's got the bracket.and backplate of lga 1551. Put it into my z690 rog strix and plug and play as well as the screws on it All retro fit
Nice OC. What's ur cooling? I'm having a hard time with this cpu. My AIO is Kraken Z53. My temp is like 95 with AI Optimised and offset -0.050
What’s your ring clock?
@@antigravitybong custom loop
Excellent tutorial thank you. I am still not clear on one point. If we set for example the performance core ratio to for example 52 on all of them, but then we set the per core performance to for example 51 on all of them, which will take precedence, and how will the final behaviour be?
Per core ratio will take over in this case
@@dinos22 so the per core ratio should always be higher than the performance core ratio.
@@M00nsave445 if you opt to tweak per core ratio, you are essentially instructing the bios on how many cores will need to be at specific frequency. You want to set them to work in a way that your top one or two cores work at higher frequency than when you use 3 or more cores. Every CPU is different and some may not be better with this approach so you have to test to see what works for you
@@dinos22 thanks
Happy new years and Merry Xmas Dinos :) I've been following your OC guides for a while and they've helped me greatly. I have a question regarding the Asus Z690 series, are the AI Features also prevalent in Z690 TUF DDR4? I mean I know that board is quite lackluster but it least it performs and overclocks quite well compared to the DDR4 mobos competition, is also compatible with AIOs without an adapter bracket, and I like their BIOS (along with MSI as well) compared to other manufactures. Do you have any idea if I'll be able to get the same tuning features available as well? That would really help finalize my decision. It's gonna be either the Z690 TUF DDR4 or MSI Z690 Tomahawk or Edge DDR. Thank you so much! Hoping to trying a similar OC once I get everything :)
Sorry man i have no experience with asus range or any other range. One thing I believe they are share is bios features and it really is more of getting a board that had a decent feature set including decent PWM so I’d probably have a look at a few videos such as buildzoid to see what he says about spec. I’ve had more experience with Asus in general and they are a solid bunch. Honestly i have not touched MSI for a decade but i did see others using them so they can’t be too bad either
with these settings my win will not boot...
i have a asrock steelseries z690 and the i9 12th
the asrock board is so sad and was my first and last asrock board
My cpu has an SP rating of 86. Yours is over 90. I think mine might do 5.3g on some cores but not 5.5g. not tried it yet
Try finding out per core VID and boost best cores
You wont be getting 5.5 ghz unless you have a liquid subzero sub-ambient chiller and disable hyperthreading lol. This is from my experience. Theres so much efficiency degradation overclocking even .1 mhz after 5.1
@@MikoMuru he showed it doing 5.5g in the video on water.
@@LawrenceTimme maybe one core. But im talking about an all P core load
@@LawrenceTimme yup thats one core. 5.1-5.2 all core is what most people are getting.
how to disable overclock cpu on rog strix z690-a
Appreciate this vid. Any idea if this vid for the cores can be seen on msi boards? Using DDR4, msi z690-a pro with the 12900K.
Unsure mate, have not touched MSI boards for decades
@@dinos22 No problem. Got another question, have you tried setting the timer resolution to 0.5? Mine keeps resetting randomly to 1 or 2 even. It doesn't wanna stick. Is this not a thing anymore for CPUs like Alder Lake?
@@mcgmgc timer resolution?
@@dinos22 check hpet freethy video
@@mcgmgc ahh yeah I don’t mess with it. I mostly play CSGO 😆. I’ll do some testing at some point to see if it really makes a difference
what cpu cooler do you have?
And maybe more importantly, which water block. The Alder Lake die is wider and some coolers may not cover the ends well.
I have a full custom loop with the EK Quantum Magnitude RGB block.
@@dinos22 That's a nice block. It has a wide fin array. No surprise it works well with Alder Lake. Did the block mounting holes match the motherboard holes?
@@MrKentaroMotoPI good question, Asus has both mounting holes for previous and current generations luckily!!!
@@dinos22 Ooh... good to know. Thanks ‼️
Bro how to decrease shared video memory in mobo asus z690 bcz my shared memory video have to much. Please help me
I set my P Cores to 5.6 GHz on my i7 13700k. However they will idle in 3.4 GHz and also when playing stay at 3.4 GHz. Is there a setting I forgot?
I see you have seen the light with regards to Asus and their BIOSes. Lots of love Yuleh. ;)
Hahahaha broooo long time no see! It took me a while to get used to it :). You upgrades to 12th gen yet :D
@@dinos22 I was tempted. I might still. Will see what our lord and saviour AMD has on offer with VCACHE and pull the trigger then.
what cooling?
Most people will not get a SP 93 sample. You got much better than average silicon
Your sp is insanely good, mine is 79!
101 is a golden sample huh
Bios glitch
Hey mate, why is yours say cpu/core voltage but on mine it’s different I have the z690 gaming wifi -f it says somethjng totally different but is the same thing. I Ben trying to find where the over clocking section is everything else beteeen out motherboard is identical besides thatS
I have an Asus z690 E gaming wifi but I can only see AI tweaker instead of extreme tweaker. Do I have to do something additional to enable this feature?
My voltages are all between 1.269 and 1.289, does that mean I can go higher than 55?
My Z690-E board stops booting with post code stuck at Fb after 2-3 reboots, with stock settings, each time requiring a CMOS clear... Any ideas why? I am suspecting the board is trying to overclock the shit out of my CPU by default...
After having my 12900K for awhile now, on a strix z690a I see your cpu is using 225w which is extremely low. Your SP score isnt much higher than mine, so I am assuming you are not removing the power limits. My cpu at 5.1/4.0 with no limits can consume 280w and hit 29K r23
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Please help. Same cpu. Cpu keeps running at high speed on idle. Cpu load is 5%. I tried alot of things but it wont downclock. Powerplan on balanced doesnt help either
What happens when you reset to defaults?
@@dinos22 Nothing changes, still high cpu speed on idle load
@@qlf3896 your operating system is screwed, you’ll have to install it from scratch
@@dinos22 I just installed this OS yesterday its my new build. So how come? Is your cpu speed low on idle?
@@qlf3896 what do you mean when you say low speed on idle, perhaps our definitions are different
Hey @dinos22 what is the exact model/type of your magnitude waterblock please? Just want to compare to mine. Cheers
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@@dinos22 ah cool thanks mate. I have the full nickel version but was worried 1150 wasn’t going to work. Installing block in next day or two. Cheers.
Amazing video @dinos22 . Question: am interested in the heat and power draw difference between the 12900k and the 12700k. I am building a new system, watercooled (3x 360 rads), so am interested in whether the 12700k should just be the go-to given the similar performance and lower heat, or, if suitably watercooled the heat generation of an OCed 12900k becomes a non-issue. What do you think? Cheers 👍
Mate 3x360 rad is massive, I’d be doing an OC on 12900K
@@dinos22 ok cheers mate. Just out of interest, was the WC system you did your testing on? Apologies if I missed it! Think you said a custom WC loop but I don’t think I saw details. Thank you.
@@Ser_Xav nothing special really just a bunch of random parts, important part is the block, i discuss in another thread here
@@dinos22 HI, I have 2x360 from ekwb one PE and one XE is this OK for that kind of OC?
So I just got my 12600K System up and running after my old X99 system finally died. But In Cinebench stock settings on my 12600K I get 17740 in score??
Since 3DMark11 or newer version, any CPU seems get bit/little "bottleneck" or no any "bottleneck" for graphics tests except CPU tests (physics, AI, combined...). But yes 3DMark Vantage or older 3DMark - you try it. lol
How come that your Cinebench score is that low? 🤔 Your acore is basically what a stock 12900k spits out. Im at 5.2ghz all core and getting around 30100 - validated through HWBot.
Have a look at comments, been discussed and corrected
I wanna change my ram’s voltage from 1.3-1.4.5 what setting would Tht be in the bios pls reply
your cinebench r23 score is very strange. i got 27638 multi by default with my 12900k. anything may i missed?
Already answered in comments, i retested later and get about 29-29.5K
@@dinos22 thanks! didn't see it but the retested score is normal finally.
After copying you’re bios settings my pc boot is just stuck at the asus boot logo is that normal? Or do i have to go back and change something?
Do you think it would be possible for me to hit the same numbers as you on a less pricy motherboard like the Gigabyte Gaming X with the 12900K?
Honestly I don’t see why not
@@dinos22 Thank you so much :)
great work m8
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Hi dinos, I have a Strix Z690-E but Memory Presets entry is not available in my BIOS. Do you have any clue why? THX
I assume Asus maybe does this for their overclocking boards, honestly not sure
Press the clock to reset the values
93 sp- hit the lottery? Mine is 80 - decent?
It may not always be a great indicator, best to have a play and see how you go. I wouldn’t worry too much, just make the best of what it is. My intention was to give some ideas for people to have a play
@@dinos22 I got a new one with 95 seen much higher?
@@alexgarcia2071 SP rating doesn’t always mean great OCer but likelihood is higher
Curious, I tried this with my 12900k setup and could not get the system to boot or be stable (see last line of paragraph). I have since just set the OC to allow for AI overclocking. She runs hot, up towards 98 degrees but I'm getting 28,000 score on cinebench. I thought R23? not 100% sure. I haven't gotten into overclocking since my original I7 920 which I settled on 4GHz. Didn't bother OC'ing the 9900k. Really wanting to get into a manual overclock but am struggling on understanding what everything does these days. Is there a good write up anywhere for what all the different voltages settings do that you're aware of? My AI Tuning indicates my silicon is garbage compared to what you have in the video.
Also interesting, I tend to get 1 core that won't budge above 75C while the rest all are a toasty 85+ spiking to 98 after a few minutes of testing. This I find very odd.
Edit - just saw your pinned comment about the scores
Hey mate, it’s really just trial and error with things i show, try lower frequency with my suggestions and build it up
Good guía master and thanks
My 12700kf scored 24997 multi and 2022 single and only hits 66c in r23 all cores at 5.2 and e cores at 4.1. Really should get a quality custom loop if your worries about temps
thats a waste man, redo settings!! im at 28k even with 69C and 1.31 duriing boost and SA VID .9 @ 5.5 Ghz on OCTVB+2 profile, 5.3*2 5.2*5 and 5.1*8, 4.0 E core, The adaptive undervolting is the way man.. the all core does shit for single core, im scoring sround 860 in cpuz and just shy of 12,000 in multicore cpuz on DDR4
Used this, got a BSOD while playing apex, actually got it after 10 sec after launch. >Clock watchdog timeout
Please don’t copy settings but rather try to understand the basic variables i am using to improve OC. This will require some effort on your end to get settings right for your system
@@dinos22 Appreciate your answer.. Forgot to tell, that I did not copied everything, instead of 5.5Mhz I stayed to 5.3, core voltage was set to 1.3. That was caused a BSOD.. Later I tried 5.2Mhz, played with 1.33-1.36 voltage, pc restarted automatically after 10sec to a few minutes, wile being on desktop, or watching youtube.. Any ideas? Is it possible, that voltage too high? :)
@@audriusg1536 what cooler are you using. What temperature are you seeing in bios, what temps are you seeing in windows during load and idle, what test are you using, what loadline calibration level are you on, are you sure your ram is stable, what are you setting for ram exactly, how are you testing ram stability, have a lot of other questions
@@dinos22 Thanks for reply.. is it possible to reach u via e-mail or something else? Would be easier.:)
will a h100i corsair be enough for a 12900k?
@AmpEdition just for gaming
I reckon it might be fine with my second OC around low voltage stuff i was experimenting with. This really depends on your CPU a lot man, also case used, ambient etc, hard to know
Doubtful. I have not been impressed with the 360 Corsair I have on an 11900k. I now have an Artic Freezer 420 and it seems to be more cooler than my CPU can handle ie if I run bios optimized for OC I get crashes in AVX heavy apps like Handbrake. The Artic's have a much better pump and all of them use a 38mm thick rad vs 26mm for most AIO's. Price is comparable.
No chance, my H150i can barely handle it, to be honest you need at least 420 AIO or a custom wc loop.
@@hullbreachdetected4846 my 240 h115i handles it with ease! I have a very good case for airflow though. That might help too :). 8 fans in total. Running 5.4ghz
Is there any way I could direct message you and pay you for your time? Amazon sold me a crap desktop out of frustration and wasting thousands of dollars I built my own computer a year ago using the Asus Z 690 e motherboard, 64 gigabytes of ddr5 G scale ram, I also have the Intel I9 13k chipset. And a few other amenities for the last year all I'm trying to do is just edit pictures and some video here and there and I get nothing but random crashes all the time.
Hey man sorry to hear about the troubles, I don’t really do that sort of stuff but would recommend you find a local PC store that does servicing, I have no doubt they’d be able to help you identify the root cause.
what cpu cooler do you used ? p.s. why whit overclock in cinebench r23 you have only 18.000 point and not near 27.000 ?
Please see other comments in here, all those are answered. Cooler is custom EK loop with Magnitude block, yes i spotted that and it was a registry fix, now score around 29.5K
@@dinos22 ok, thanks.
@@dinos22 ok, where i can find the registry fix ? I luch r23 whit my 12900l and i've 19000 point. Thanks
@@fifagi if you have a default operating system, you should not have the problem. The reason i had an issue was because i had to enable HPET timer for X265 benchmark. To disable it i had to got to CMD and type “Bcdedit /set useplatformclock no”
@@dinos22 I don't know why... I used the comand, but i have 19000 points whit default setting, 20378 whit overclock @5.3 ghz
I find the problem: e-core non "started" for a setting on msconfig. Now works well
Thanks
18k score? i get 28k score. why so low?
Already discussed in comments, i get 29.5K
@dinos22 do you think it is possible to reach this results with a 360 aio? because i think with a custom waco u can cool around 10-20° more right?
Not sure mate, i only have a custom WC setup
I currently use a H150i and it barely handles it, if you run it as base clock (4.9k MHz) then it will be enough, not for OC or heavy loading though.
What aio did you use?
I’m not using an AIO, i have a custom wc loop with EK Magnitude block
Should i go with KF or K? and 2nd question, i need as fast a clocking rate as possible so should i go 12700K or 12900K? (I do flight sim so 5 to 10 frames makes a huge difference). I guess my question should be more like , Is the price difference worth going to 12900K or should i grab the 12700K or 12700KF and overclock it to 5.2 ? it would seem that the 12700 could overclock to 5.2 based on the 12900K overclocking to 5.5. Am i off-base on that or does that sound reasonable?
K or KF, for your use I don’t think it will make a difference if you are focusing on gaming and obviously will use a discrete GPU.
Buying CPUs a silicon lottery, you could get a bad overclocking chip or a good one. I have a solid chip here, it will be a really good example of what to expect. In terms of whether you should get a Core i9 or i7, keep in mind that Core i9 is highest bin processor so that intel makes so naturally the best result will likely be with a core i9
Saw this video today of Microsoft Flightsim, check out the frames as well as power used and load temperatures th-cam.com/video/mRdfJplVryQ/w-d-xo.html
Figured this would be informative for you
@@dinos22 think i can get 5ghz all 8 cores p and 3.8 on e? What voltage ya think
@@gokucanfly4593 it will depend on your CPU and cooler
@@dinos22 im running full custom water loop with 3080 custom undervolted. I git the 8700k to 5ghz around 1.33
Friend would an 850w seasonic work with 3060 ti and 12700k z690 fractal torrent and cooler?
Yeah I don’t see why not
Got to stable 4.8ghz p core 3.8 e cores at 1.17 and i lost score vs stocm which i think is around 4.7 max and 3.6 e core... makes 0 sense
Stock is 4.9GHz all P-core load and 3.7GHz on E-cores. This is all core load but remember stock also boosts cores are lower core load to up to 5.2, 3.9
@@dinos22 whats ur water block pt cooler? Temps suck seems
@@gokucanfly4593 I’m on EK Magnitude
@@dinos22 how important is the block for the cpu. I’m on a Corsair xc7 with 2 360 rads for my full cpu Gpu loop.
@@acesblue7699 I haven’t done cooler testing so I can’t give you a good answer
SP 93? I'm jealous!
I could run my cpu at 5.2 P and 4 E but the CPU core voltage would be 1.4~1.45. Any thoughts on running high voltages?
That’s very high man, I’d probably revert back to stock and run stock if you need that much voltage. Honestly look for your max all core at about 1.25v under heavy load and up to 1.35 gaming load. That’s what I’d do on my rig
dinos22 How did you get it to do high voltage for gaming and low for standard? Thanks
Very well explained mate. Question though. When you do cinebenchR23 stability test and it passed without throttling. Do you need to do prime95 test as well for stability testing too?
Hey Hendrik, you can if that’s what you do with your PC. I normally check the system to make sure the memory is stable so I’ll run memtest, superpi and then I run some workloads that I’d normally see so potentially video editing, encoding, gaming etc. you can run prime but you’re very unlikely to ever load the PC that hard
@@dinos22 Thank you for the reply. But wait. my Rog Strix z690-A (ddr4) Is a bit average motherboard compared to your maximus. I don't see the need for a ddr5 yet and yes I run memtest thru it's bios. My old hyperX is rated 3200mhz. I got it to run at 3600Mhz!! mate it's so amazing that it past and run memtest successfully. I have a 12700KF and running at 5.1Ghz @1.95 volts. Did CinebenchR23 for several times and passed the test. 1 bad processor just like your's is reaching 96 Degrees celsius during stability testing but no throttling.
@@hendriksaldua8208 1.95??? You mean 1.25 or 1.35 or something surely?
@@dinos22 sorry typo error. I mean it's running at 1.295 Volts @ 5.1 Gigahertz (12700KF). In your case if you pass cinebenchR23 you don't need prime 95 to do stress test right? just memtest will do.
@@hendriksaldua8208 imo just test what you are most likely going to use the system for
Amazing
i just ordered 12900k and aorus elite z690 ddr4 , i allready own corsair cl 15 3000mhz 4x8 32gb it performed great with my i9 9900k but is this fast enough for the 12900k or should i upgrade to 3600mhz or higher?
try running your ram at 3200mhz after turning xmp on. I think anything above 3000mhz should be okay
@@DEANluxray i play battlefield 2042 because 3200 is allmost the same as 3000mhz.
@@pcgamerzzzchannel3407 you can keep trying. Maybe, you can get it to 3400 or 3600. I have an 3000 overclocked to 3200. I do not think it worth getting the extra 400hz for the price you'd pay
I guess it depends on what workloads you use it for. Generally try keep latency down, gear ratio 1:1 and you will get excellent performance. I’ve been doing some testing with 4000 cas14 DDR4 and performance was impressive
@@dinos22 Corsair 16 GB DDR4-4000 Kit CMW16GX4M2Z4000C18 2x8 159 euro , i could buy 2 for 32gb 4x 8 and resell my old ram but i dont if cl 18 will affect the performance?
How do you get all this with these temperatures in a 12900k friend, here at benckmarch with water cooler coolermaster 240 ML which is simple but it is water cooler in HVMonitor the temperatures hit 100 degrees with the asus board bios in default mode, which cooler is ? thanks
I have a custom loop you can check out in 12600K video, i show it at end of video, basically one of the best WBs on a custom loop with dual radiators
My 12900k is always on 4900mhz all core on idle while gaming always. On idle it draws 120 watts please help. I have the Maximus hero. I have the stock bios settings. I’ve changed a few things nothing worked. Sp is 83. I don’t know what im doing wrong. It’s my first Asus board
How are you measuring that? Is it via HWinfo?
@@dinos22 yes. CPU z Same 🥲 Volt and mhz Same
@@Gueven94 can you reset to bios default and check your CPU package power wattage. It should be 30-40W
@@dinos22 i Made a clear cmos and cpu package power still on 125 watts
@@Gueven94 strange, maybe software not reading correctly
Do you know if Apex and Strix MBs share the same BIOS settings?
Yes, for regular cooling they will. Once you start overclocking with liquid nitrogen there is are some additional things on Apex
Hi Dinos , awseome content bro , Very nice and well done guide. I approve of this :D .
Thanks bro
Hi dinos so you know if the maximus hero z690 has thesame setting as your z690 maximus apex and do you know what cooler or cooling system I should use??
What do you mean when you say “same setting”? In terms of cooling, any triple AIO is probably not a bad pick. If you can afford custom blocks then even better
Nice one Dino!
This block is handy, would be nice if it did have LGA1700 mount kit heh
recently upgraded my system with a Auros Z690 Elite AX board and a i7 12700K being cooled by a Galahad 360 AIO. Having difficulties finding a stable OC, I can do 5.0Ghz no problem but if I go to 5.1 system crashes and reboots. Temps are great...40C on regular use, 60C on stress tests. Not sure what's blocking me from going higher?
Probably voltage
Is this possible on my ASUs TUF Z690 D4 Wifi or are these only for the highest end boards. I hope I haven’t gimped myself completely! 😔. If you could give a good guide for us plebs that would be appreciated.
Sure it is!
Thanks dinos22 for this video it's been really helpful. Just upgraded after about eight years and reading up on all this new stuff is quite challenging. Trying to get my old brain wrapped round it all. (My first overclock was an Intel Celeron 330Mhz I think to about 500Mhz It was sold to me as best bang for buck in the 1990's. It was a lot simpler back then!)
SuperMax I've got the same motherboard as you. You may like to know that ASUS has just released new BIOS for the board. Haven't checked it all out yet but it's got some new overclocking goodies in the Tweaker tab including auto tuning.
I cannot enable my xmp
Which board?
@@dinos22 Hello Dinos ! Thanks for your video. Very helpfull ! I'm in the same case. ASUS formula Z690 + CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM DDR5 32 GO (2 X 16 GO) 5200 MHZ CL38. Blue screen with the XMP1 or 2. Any suggestion lord ?
@@sylvainastier6744 are you on the latest bios?
@@dinos22yes, the Bios 702. (I'am afraid of beta bios)
Asus rog strix z690 a wifi d4, but i had to download an internet driver because the internet didnt work out the box. Second I made the mistake of putting the ram on slots A1 and B1 so once I put them on A2 And B2 It should work hopefully.
Asus Z690 Formula and 12900K user here. I've managed to go as far as 5.5k MHz, Windows boots at 5.6k but fails at load test, boot failure at 5.7k. 5.5k is pretty stable, load tested on both multi and single, and tired a few recent release games. I've tried to play around with Voltage figures but anywhere above 5.5k I have to amp up Voltage above 1.45, which isn't going to happen. The rumours proved to be true, about 12900k being super hot hardware. I have a corsair H150i 360 AIO hooked up with condactonaut, and I am getting 60C on single core load test @ 5.5k MHz, 90C on multi core @ 5.2k MHz (CPU package shoots up 100C!!). Definitely needs better cooling, but luckily I already have a custom cooling loop planned, on the way. Will be running 2x480 and 2x360 rads (1000D case).
Cinebench R23
Multi: 28859 pts
Single: 2100 pts
I’m doing a video soon to show an interesting bracket that lowers temps
Me happy with 320W and 11k+ points in R20 - just Ram is my big ussue…
Enjoy
I feel like my MSI tomahawk is a pos. Sometimes it doesn't want to save the bios and reset. 1.3v won't even give me 5.1/4.0. I feel like I got a bad board and a bad chip lol double whammy.
I have no experience with MSI personally. I’ve mostly used Gigabyte and Asus over the last decade or more and both have always been great. I do see a few extreme OCers using MSI so can’t be that bad but I’m sorry hard for me to help here, not very knowledgeable with MSI
@@dinos22 I have always been an ASUS person but being an early adopter of a ddr4 board, MSI is what was available. th-cam.com/video/-sd2DDL-x_w/w-d-xo.html put these settings into my bios and booted into windows with zero issues. Stress tested for 10 mins before heading to work and hopefully it will still be running when I get home. 5.4ghz on pcores and 4.0 on e cores.
@@barrybondz4483 great to hear
@@dinos22 The thing im not understanding is that der8auer was on an MSI board and I followed his guide and even in his video on a 360MM aio hits 100c. 1.3V with 5.1 pcore, 4.0 e cores. I see your video and go wtf, how? Then I see the video I linked you and I can boot into windows at 5.4pcore/4.0e core and start stress testing. 12th gen is a crazy new beast to O.C. would be really cool if you got your hands on an MSI board for some testing.
@@barrybondz4483 tell Roman he’s a noob :D
So if i want best performance for gaming wich usually dont even get close to the load from cinebench and programs like that. Do i overclock first and then overvolt or undervolt first and then overklock and can they be done together. Can i undervolt and in the same time crank up the overclock?
You will find out the limits of your chip, the best outcome is to undervolt and overclock but that is equivalent to finding a unicorn CPU
@@dinos22 like i guressed then. we want to achive best stable whit best fo both worlds. Im exited my things arrive on thursday. I have had my 9700k unicorn at 5.1 for half a year now. But it has like only haft of the cores so this will my fun.
Your sp is st 91 this is a really good cpu your performance does not reflect average sp score around 70.
See comments on benchmarks
@dinos22
I’m new to overclocking. Why do you have to undervolt? What happens if u don’t undervolt and overclock?
And are u using a air cooler? What the max u can overclock to?
You don’t have to OC or undervolt, this is really here for more advanced users. Undervolt is basically a process if using less volts than what motherboard gives at stock. This will improve your load temperature mostly but not all CPUs can do it, it really depends on quality of silicon and every CPU is different. Overclocking is much the same, you essentially increase CPU frequency over stock but it’s chip dependent. With overclocking you produce more heat and need better cooling. I’d recommend watercooling whether stock or OC. WC is generally very quiet and keeps chips running cool