Gotta say tho I disagree about ghostly pilferer. Since it only says “not from their hand” it counts towards people casting their commander. So even if there’s no kind of graveyard or cheating creatures out deck (which usually there is), you’re usually gonna get some hits off commanders which isn’t bad for 2 mana and checking tribal boxes.
I know I'm a little late to the party but keep Twilight Drover because there's a infinite 1. have training ground + phyrexian altar the and have one Spirit token on battlefield 2. Play Twilight Drover and sacrifice that Spirit token with phyrexian altar 3. Twilight Drover get a counter and you get one any color mana that create two spirit and repeat the process and you have infinite Spirit token creatures
Appreciate the support on these videos! I moved recently and my current set up makes the voice over recording way too echo-y. I'm going to experiment this week so that future videos sound better.
I actually just picked this precon up myself, and I just stumbled upon your video from a Google search. First, let me say thank you very much for some of the advice and removal options you provided here, but I just wanted to mention that I noticed a couple omissions (unless I simply missed them) during the Creatures section. Two of these I don't recall hearing about in the video, but the are still on the GDocs spreadsheet your description links toward, but the third card was seemingly forgotten about entirely: 1. Custodi Soulbinders - easy Remove due to higher cost than payoff is really worth; 2. Spectral Arcanist - Your spreadsheet says Keep, and I can potentially see why, but I would've liked to hear your explanation since it's somewhat situational to my understanding; and 3. Why didn't you even briefly mention (again, unless I just missed it, I watched this rather late at night, so this whole comment could just be the result of my brain being just a little too tired...) the easy and self-explanatory choice of absolutely Keeping Drogskol Captain?
Since the question wasn't really answered, lemme contribute my input! Spectral Arcanist is basically a cheaper version of Torrental Gearhulk, except its traded Flash(allowing it to be cast at any time) for Flying which isn't ideal. It is a spirit though, so it fits the deck's tribal theme. While it doesn't seem all that interesting or mind blowing, it can be used in a variety of situations, and you may find it saving your butt. For instance, if Swords to Plowshares is in your graveyard, you can cast it literally for free(aside from giving your opponent some life) and get rid of whatever big baddie your opponent may have on the board. However, it can be a bit situational, so it's up to you if you want to keep it in or not! For Drogskol Captain, it's cheap, a spirit, and provides great value. It gives all other spirits hexproof, which will: 1.) annoy your opponents quite a lot, and 2.) will keep important cards on the board such as Millicent and Mirror Entity. Sorry for such a long comment, hope this helped! :P
Crazy to take out timin,youthfull that card is Sooo good thr ability to stop All your players tuff guys EACH combat is crazy & helped me sooo many times
Ghostly pilferer I have found to be a very solid card. You have a lot of graveyard recursion so the discarding doesn't hurt at all. Then you will have a card that will always make you at least 1 spirit
This deck has far too little to near none Legendary status creatures (other than the commander itself and one more) in order to justify Karns Temporal Sundering, so any other extra turn spell will have a better impact overall. Sire of the Storm is too expensive mana wise and doesn’t do much, I’d cut it for a Vanquishers Banner which has the same effect with the added bonuses of costing less and providing an extra anthem to all your spirits.
This seems relevant to my interests
I like the format, speed, and depth of these videos. It hits right on the perfect pace IMO. Great stuff!
Gotta say tho I disagree about ghostly pilferer.
Since it only says “not from their hand” it counts towards people casting their commander.
So even if there’s no kind of graveyard or cheating creatures out deck (which usually there is), you’re usually gonna get some hits off commanders which isn’t bad for 2 mana and checking tribal boxes.
I know I'm a little late to the party but keep Twilight Drover because there's a infinite
1. have training ground + phyrexian altar the and have one Spirit token on battlefield
2. Play Twilight Drover and sacrifice that Spirit token with phyrexian altar
3. Twilight Drover get a counter and you get one any color mana that create two spirit and repeat the process and you have infinite Spirit token creatures
Appreciate the support on these videos! I moved recently and my current set up makes the voice over recording way too echo-y. I'm going to experiment this week so that future videos sound better.
Please do these for each commander release. I enjoy the flow and deep dive.
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
I actually just picked this precon up myself, and I just stumbled upon your video from a Google search. First, let me say thank you very much for some of the advice and removal options you provided here, but I just wanted to mention that I noticed a couple omissions (unless I simply missed them) during the Creatures section.
Two of these I don't recall hearing about in the video, but the are still on the GDocs spreadsheet your description links toward, but the third card was seemingly forgotten about entirely: 1. Custodi Soulbinders - easy Remove due to higher cost than payoff is really worth; 2. Spectral Arcanist - Your spreadsheet says Keep, and I can potentially see why, but I would've liked to hear your explanation since it's somewhat situational to my understanding; and 3. Why didn't you even briefly mention (again, unless I just missed it, I watched this rather late at night, so this whole comment could just be the result of my brain being just a little too tired...) the easy and self-explanatory choice of absolutely Keeping Drogskol Captain?
If I forgot to mention a card it was just a mistake on my part. Nothing intentional there. Thanks for watching!
Since the question wasn't really answered, lemme contribute my input! Spectral Arcanist is basically a cheaper version of Torrental Gearhulk, except its traded Flash(allowing it to be cast at any time) for Flying which isn't ideal. It is a spirit though, so it fits the deck's tribal theme. While it doesn't seem all that interesting or mind blowing, it can be used in a variety of situations, and you may find it saving your butt. For instance, if Swords to Plowshares is in your graveyard, you can cast it literally for free(aside from giving your opponent some life) and get rid of whatever big baddie your opponent may have on the board. However, it can be a bit situational, so it's up to you if you want to keep it in or not! For Drogskol Captain, it's cheap, a spirit, and provides great value. It gives all other spirits hexproof, which will: 1.) annoy your opponents quite a lot, and 2.) will keep important cards on the board such as Millicent and Mirror Entity. Sorry for such a long comment, hope this helped! :P
Crazy to take out timin,youthfull that card is Sooo good thr ability to stop All your players tuff guys EACH combat is crazy & helped me sooo many times
Ghostly pilferer I have found to be a very solid card. You have a lot of graveyard recursion so the discarding doesn't hurt at all. Then you will have a card that will always make you at least 1 spirit
I buy a precon commander and i upgrade with powerfull cards and i love this commander deck
But what about Thunder Spirt?!?!? Great Video!
expensive bro
This deck has far too little to near none Legendary status creatures (other than the commander itself and one more) in order to justify Karns Temporal Sundering, so any other extra turn spell will have a better impact overall.
Sire of the Storm is too expensive mana wise and doesn’t do much, I’d cut it for a Vanquishers Banner which has the same effect with the added bonuses of costing less and providing an extra anthem to all your spirits.
You read Haunting imitation wrong. It does not generate you token in any case.