The Strongest Atlantean Myth unit | Age of Mythology Last one of the 4 for the regular titans edition :) -My discord server: / discord -Main channel: / erik7529
I remember, when I was a kid, suddenly realising the fact that, "wait a minute... if I have, like, ten of these guys, I can make them repair each other for free! No, wait... wait, what if... what if instead I make an entire army of them? It's like having an infinite amount of units, but I only have to pay for them once! Omg, is this even legal? The Devs are so dumb and I am so smart!". Of course, in retrospect, you can't win every engagement with just automatons, and they sort of suck even when compared to regular mortal soldiers, but DAMN did I try. God knows I really, really, tried to make it work.
@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 Yeah they're definitely good support defending units but not good for a whole army, especially when you're attacking because you won't get a chance to rebuild them. Basically cheap units to help defend your base in the early stages of a game
Dryad being weak doesn't surprise me too much. From what I remember, the Dryad has a pretty cheap cost and takes no population, which helps make a better case for it. It's limited to 5 total, I think, so you won't be using them as the base for your army, but if you put a Hesperides Tree in your own base you can use them kind of like a pop-free defense force, like Egyptian Mercs.
You should do a range myth unit comparison. They can't fight melee myth units straight up so they end up with low scores in these comparisons, yet are quite strong in certain army compositions, so a comparison of those by age would be very useful. Like satyr vs. bird vs. croc vs. manticore.
This dude's content is pretty good, he's the closest to doing what spiritofthelaw does for AoE but less autistic detail... but his mispronounciations absolutely kill me lol. The Chinese video was a nightmare as a Chinese speaker. I mean, hey, these niche folkloric words in foreign and often even dead languages aren't common knowledge or anything so I can hardly blame him, and to be fair he does admit he can't pronounce half this shit properly, but still. Damn lol. Just sloooow down, read the word. Look at the letters. Dry-ad it's DRY-ad, not DAI-rad, DRY-ad.
I noticed during your tests with the palace that one of the palaces was attacking a group of MUs other than one damaging it. The Heka Gigantes also knocked back some of the attacking units in the neighboring enclosures. Maybe you should do each test on isolated islands rather than separate them with wooden walls.
What are these pronunciations? "Die-rad": Dry-add. "Sah-tear": Say-tear. (I do think Sah-tear is technically correct, it's just Say-tear is much more common. I don't mean to insult you or another, it just stood out to me.
In a complete new game like Age of Empires 4 these units could look SO freakin cool. Let us hope after the success of AoE they will focus on AoM finally after almost 20 freakin years...
Maybe automaton is better against heroes in that test because the hero was ranged and the automaton has higher ranged resistance, just like the Behemoth
good work, how about doing a Chinese myth unit one next, enjoyed your review of the 4 original civilizations, would love to see the newest civilization from tale of dragon given the same treatment :)
heres the thing about dryad though, it costs 0 favor, only 150 gold, and because of that, you can only control 5 at a time. if you could spawn infinite dryads, who cost 0 favor and as myth units are better vs human units, it would become far to strong in a fight due to being able to just summon infinite amounts of them
I feel bad for you because people are tearing into about your pronunciation of dryard and how automotons are supposed to be used in a group. We have a titan god who is specialized in this particular myth unit she provides by increasing hack resistance and repair speed and when they fall
Weird video, you used height elevation bonuses and also rated some units without price considerations. And that man of war seemed pretty good at absorbing damage despite inefficient damage.
Sounds like someone has been watching too much Spirit of the Law AoE 2 videos lol Sadly not everyone is as careful or thorough about their comparisons and testing
I don't know if this is correct but I believe Lampades is actually pronounced LAM-pades as it is a portmanteau of Lamp and Shades (even though Lampades are not ghosts like Shades; they're nymphs/witches).
I do also like to consider which resources each are costing. I much prefer food cost myth units as food is pretty much the only unlimited resource in the game, gold being a pretty close second as it's much easier to obtain then wood (your villagers won't stray far from a gold mine and get lost).
As a matter of fact, gold is the most scarce resource in the late game. Because almost all of the upgrades and units have a gold component. Also, you can purchase food and wood at the market at a better rate than gold.
@@PiyushShandilya Was about to say this, When playing as Egypt you need to be using the market and camels so much or you will just starve out the game of gold. I started playing Atlanteans, mainly Kronos, and have been finding I end up with the same sort of level of all resources, but once late game hits, (I normally try and make late game about 30 minutes at most with Atlanean's) I find my gold depleats so much quicker due to Hekka costing 300 gold a pop, all troop upgrades, siege machines, everything to finish the game costs gold, and I look around and there's no gold mines left on my side of the map. Wood and Food I have never ran out of (yet)
Ok some thoughts, these tests seem to not take cost efficency into account, also you didn't seem to even go over the Automatons ability to repair itself. Also this test specifically is myth units vs myth units, without maybe considering their effectiveness in normal situations like myth units vs troops. Like for example the Satyr, Dryad and bird would all beat out the Behemoth since it takes too long to kill regular troops. You often build myth units for their power over regular units so determining their efficiency this way is far more useful than comparing them directly.
Hey Protox! Just found this while I was looking up the new map, Old Atlantis, to figure out why I played a full match on it without finding any "temples to restore." Any chance you could do a "review" on that map? I played with my cousin and we did a classic Odin & Odin vs Loki & Loki. He's not that great and suddenly he used Shifting Sands, so I started cheating too and the match became a clusterfuck. Now excuse me as I go binge the rest of your myth unit comparison vids
very good videoi just need to say that in real games the use on mythunit is different to get the best benefit, for example the limpad player will target the argus first rather than a normal unit and that turn all the fight , the same thing for the egyptian video wich the mommy player will always win vs all other unit and its the best unit in game, hard counter to all others
I don't think I've ever been this triggered by someone being entirely incapable of reading letters in a sequence 💀 Man even spelled dryad wrong in the final chart Xd he started believing his bullshit.
@@fawvertyler thank you for the info :). It is just that the „hill bonus“ is such a fundamental mechanic in AoE2 that I was really surprised the same is not the case for Age of Mythology (is newer than the original AoE2).
@@raghavmenon6413 okay thanks! But if that is the case then why does this comparison not take such a bonus into account. In some battles shown here that could have made a big difference.
Look at Promethean Vs automaton ... Yup Promethean is better... No like auto repair mechanic of automaton no more standard fight like 3 Vs 3 or something. Cause you know units got special niche, automatons are weaker BUT autorepair after combat(and return dead units) are more useful than it looks
to be honest compared to greek, egypt and norse myth units the atlanteans just suck the strong point of the atlanteans is choosing helios in the heroic age and make heroes regenerate health and use hero units only
Atlanteans worship Titans. So their culture have a better focus on mythic beasts. I just hope that the game developer change the favor mechanic for them so they earn favor the fastest in order to mass titan's childrens.
What a dumb test. You just let them fight each other, counters and in a small engagement. Isnt the point of the ranking to speak about each units pros and cons? It is like letting a bodybuilder fight against a philosopher and say "Yeah the bodybuilder is better in almost every aspect so now we move on to teacher vs army soldier."
Keep in mind that massed automatons will repair some of the ones that died in battle. You almost never want to go in with one or two of them
Was gonna say this. I've even had times where my automaton have literally rebuilt every single one of them, so I had an army for free basically.
I remember, when I was a kid, suddenly realising the fact that, "wait a minute... if I have, like, ten of these guys, I can make them repair each other for free! No, wait... wait, what if... what if instead I make an entire army of them? It's like having an infinite amount of units, but I only have to pay for them once! Omg, is this even legal? The Devs are so dumb and I am so smart!".
Of course, in retrospect, you can't win every engagement with just automatons, and they sort of suck even when compared to regular mortal soldiers, but DAMN did I try. God knows I really, really, tried to make it work.
@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 Yeah they're definitely good support defending units but not good for a whole army, especially when you're attacking because you won't get a chance to rebuild them. Basically cheap units to help defend your base in the early stages of a game
They still kinda suck tho, only good in defense. They barely beat human soldiers
Dryad being weak doesn't surprise me too much. From what I remember, the Dryad has a pretty cheap cost and takes no population, which helps make a better case for it. It's limited to 5 total, I think, so you won't be using them as the base for your army, but if you put a Hesperides Tree in your own base you can use them kind of like a pop-free defense force, like Egyptian Mercs.
Yeah they train pretty quickly too
Or you can hijack the tree in your enemy's base and use it for backup
I would like to see a remake of this game or "age of mythology 2"
There is a remake on steam called Age of mythology: Extended edition
Age of mythology : definitive edition, just like the other age of empires games
@@kingmath666 Not really a remake just a port
Id like to see indian, irish, Native American, and/or Chinese mythology civs
@@Independentfellow They did chinese on the steam version and it kinda half assed
The point of the Automaton is to be a main army myth unit since it can rebuild and repair and is only 2 population
"Dyrad"
He also mispronounces Satyr. It's pronounced like "Later" but with an "S". Not "Sah Tear"
You should do a range myth unit comparison. They can't fight melee myth units straight up so they end up with low scores in these comparisons, yet are quite strong in certain army compositions, so a comparison of those by age would be very useful. Like satyr vs. bird vs. croc vs. manticore.
Dry-ahd
Say-tur
Lamp-aydes
Hecka ji-gantes
This dude's content is pretty good, he's the closest to doing what spiritofthelaw does for AoE but less autistic detail... but his mispronounciations absolutely kill me lol.
The Chinese video was a nightmare as a Chinese speaker.
I mean, hey, these niche folkloric words in foreign and often even dead languages aren't common knowledge or anything so I can hardly blame him, and to be fair he does admit he can't pronounce half this shit properly, but still. Damn lol. Just sloooow down, read the word. Look at the letters. Dry-ad it's DRY-ad, not DAI-rad, DRY-ad.
Lampades are actually great as support. Just stick a couple among your army (against another army) and see the magic
They always reminded me of "Raven" from Teen Titans.
Still got nothing on Giga Chad Heka Gigantes
I noticed during your tests with the palace that one of the palaces was attacking a group of MUs other than one damaging it. The Heka Gigantes also knocked back some of the attacking units in the neighboring enclosures. Maybe you should do each test on isolated islands rather than separate them with wooden walls.
Argus: *wins with a small army vs Giggantus 3 out of 3 times.*
"The Argus takes the last plase unfortunately."
But the argus lost every single army battle it faced. What are you saying?
This comment confuses me. Did we not watch the same video?
Minecraft Villagers be like: 2:43
automatons can repair each other pretty quickly, they good in nos.
Satyrs are actually really good in number, and they have a really strong upgrade.
What are these pronunciations?
"Die-rad": Dry-add.
"Sah-tear": Say-tear. (I do think Sah-tear is technically correct, it's just Say-tear is much more common.
I don't mean to insult you or another, it just stood out to me.
Dont forget 'The burd' :p
Been waiting for this,good job
The automatons can repair them selves even when fallen
Your pronunciations are amazing
In a complete new game like Age of Empires 4 these units could look SO freakin cool. Let us hope after the success of AoE they will focus on AoM finally after almost 20 freakin years...
They did say they were still thinking of Age of Mythology. Whether that means Age of Mythology DE or Age of Mythology 2 is anyones guess.
I got good news for you, its coming this September
Are you going to do
"Best Chinese myth unit"??
Or
"Best water myth unit"??
Though, the automatons can fix each other if they have the upgrade
They can fix each other without the upgrade too.
@@mckenziewilliamhowells233 If I remember correctly, the upgrade allows automaton to repair itself (so it gets basically regeneration when stationary)
3:52 He almost killed the hero here!
Heka gigantes is like the goro from mortal kombat it’s destructive
I had so many games when after losing half of my automaton the rest was able to rebuild them, and small prometheans are pretty bad
Maybe automaton is better against heroes in that test because the hero was ranged and the automaton has higher ranged resistance, just like the Behemoth
good work, how about doing a Chinese myth unit one next, enjoyed your review of the 4 original civilizations, would love to see the newest civilization from tale of dragon given the same treatment :)
I have one now!
heres the thing about dryad though, it costs 0 favor, only 150 gold, and because of that, you can only control 5 at a time. if you could spawn infinite dryads, who cost 0 favor and as myth units are better vs human units, it would become far to strong in a fight due to being able to just summon infinite amounts of them
I think you should also factor in Max potential aswell (upgrades) so we can see how it would realistically work in a match
Dryad, not Die-rad
I feel bad for you because people are tearing into about your pronunciation of dryard and how automotons are supposed to be used in a group. We have a titan god who is specialized in this particular myth unit she provides by increasing hack resistance and repair speed and when they fall
Weird video, you used height elevation bonuses and also rated some units without price considerations. And that man of war seemed pretty good at absorbing damage despite inefficient damage.
Sounds like someone has been watching too much Spirit of the Law AoE 2 videos lol
Sadly not everyone is as careful or thorough about their comparisons and testing
I think you should Google a few of these creatures pronunciations my good man.
Would of loved to see the tatarian gate units
Yeah I was considering those at first but then they are really a god power unit.
Edit: whoops used my main channel
@@ProtoxxGaming pls do vid on them or of all the strongest god powers
@@SonoftheKing787 I will eventually but I'm currently playing a lot of other games.
"I will just call it bird." xD
Mann!!! You should have done battle with similar resources, as there are units who are more cost-effective than strong on their own
I don't know if this is correct but I believe Lampades is actually pronounced LAM-pades as it is a portmanteau of Lamp and Shades (even though Lampades are not ghosts like Shades; they're nymphs/witches).
It's dryad not dyrad dude. Also at the start you showed the wrong ages (you hard the third age twice) but it's ok it still makes sense.
I'm not the only one who went "It's fucking Dry-ad!" right?
Edgy and cool
they actually nerfed the automaton for some reason
0:18 put Age III twice
Oops
I do also like to consider which resources each are costing. I much prefer food cost myth units as food is pretty much the only unlimited resource in the game, gold being a pretty close second as it's much easier to obtain then wood (your villagers won't stray far from a gold mine and get lost).
As a matter of fact, gold is the most scarce resource in the late game. Because almost all of the upgrades and units have a gold component. Also, you can purchase food and wood at the market at a better rate than gold.
@@PiyushShandilya Was about to say this, When playing as Egypt you need to be using the market and camels so much or you will just starve out the game of gold. I started playing Atlanteans, mainly Kronos, and have been finding I end up with the same sort of level of all resources, but once late game hits, (I normally try and make late game about 30 minutes at most with Atlanean's) I find my gold depleats so much quicker due to Hekka costing 300 gold a pop, all troop upgrades, siege machines, everything to finish the game costs gold, and I look around and there's no gold mines left on my side of the map. Wood and Food I have never ran out of (yet)
Ok some thoughts, these tests seem to not take cost efficency into account, also you didn't seem to even go over the Automatons ability to repair itself.
Also this test specifically is myth units vs myth units, without maybe considering their effectiveness in normal situations like myth units vs troops.
Like for example the Satyr, Dryad and bird would all beat out the Behemoth since it takes too long to kill regular troops. You often build myth units for their power over regular units so determining their efficiency this way is far more useful than comparing them directly.
D Y R A D
Hey Protox! Just found this while I was looking up the new map, Old Atlantis, to figure out why I played a full match on it without finding any "temples to restore." Any chance you could do a "review" on that map?
I played with my cousin and we did a classic Odin & Odin vs Loki & Loki. He's not that great and suddenly he used Shifting Sands, so I started cheating too and the match became a clusterfuck.
Now excuse me as I go binge the rest of your myth unit comparison vids
Perhaps! I will have to look into it next time I play
"The bird" 😂
well it is a bird :P
very good videoi just need to say that in real games the use on mythunit is different to get the best benefit, for example the limpad player will target the argus first rather than a normal unit and that turn all the fight , the same thing for the egyptian video wich the mommy player will always win vs all other unit and its the best unit in game, hard counter to all others
Can you make army vs army. For example Toxetes from Greek vs Arceus from Atlantean.
stim-fal-eon
stymphalion
dry-add
dryad
I don't think I've ever been this triggered by someone being entirely incapable of reading letters in a sequence 💀
Man even spelled dryad wrong in the final chart Xd he started believing his bullshit.
The way you say "enjoy" will always be funny.
Its a thing ive been doing on my main channel for years :D
@@Nexotic0 lol, nice ;). So, are you doing Chinese MUs next?
is there hill bonus damage in aom?
Nope
@@erictrindade8313 Yes there is. Why would you answer this person without knowing yourself.
@@raghavmenon6413 There is? I've never noticed it
It's not dyrad it's dryad
Can you do comparison with human soldier units?
İ like automaton more.also it is cheaper.That doesnt make him bad.
So in short, Kronos is best Atlantean god
Any god that benefits myth units will be pretty solid
D-R-Y-A-D not D-I-E-R-A-D
Dry-ad
i dont care what you say i will keep spamming automatons to have a rebuilding swag horde
Does anyone know why I can't get siege units with the chinese?
Does age of mythology also have the hill bonus effect as seen in AoE2? Meaning units on a higher elevation do more damage and receive less in return.
MoDX I don’t think so I think there might be a mod for it if you look on the workshop
@@fawvertyler thank you for the info :). It is just that the „hill bonus“ is such a fundamental mechanic in AoE2 that I was really surprised the same is not the case for Age of Mythology (is newer than the original AoE2).
@@modx5534 The hill mechanic is there in aom. This dude made a video on it.
@@raghavmenon6413 okay thanks! But if that is the case then why does this comparison not take such a bonus into account. In some battles shown here that could have made a big difference.
@@modx5534 Every battle was fought on a level playing field so there was no need. But you’re right, a more thorough guide would have illustrated this.
Make a video talking about chinese myth units pleasee
th-cam.com/video/uFCfIhd6IkI/w-d-xo.html already did
Bro can u compare normal units?
1:40 Dyrad? Die rad?
I have no idea why I pronounced it that way.... D:
Look at Promethean Vs automaton ... Yup Promethean is better... No like auto repair mechanic of automaton no more standard fight like 3 Vs 3 or something. Cause you know units got special niche, automatons are weaker BUT autorepair after combat(and return dead units) are more useful than it looks
to be honest compared to greek, egypt and norse myth units the atlanteans just suck the strong point of the atlanteans is choosing helios in the heroic age and make heroes regenerate health and use hero units only
Atlanteans worship Titans. So their culture have a better focus on mythic beasts. I just hope that the game developer change the favor mechanic for them so they earn favor the fastest in order to mass titan's childrens.
This is some amateur rating. Look up Spirit of the law, he does some decent statistics for his videos.
You managed to pronounce almost everything wrong :/
That deserves an award right 😔
What a dumb test. You just let them fight each other, counters and in a small engagement. Isnt the point of the ranking to speak about each units pros and cons? It is like letting a bodybuilder fight against a philosopher and say "Yeah the bodybuilder is better in almost every aspect so now we move on to teacher vs army soldier."
Its DRYAD