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  • @zalybrainlessgenius503
    @zalybrainlessgenius503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    As a kid I was always making anubites because they looked cool. No surprise I was losing all the time XD

    • @lashaxoperia5917
      @lashaxoperia5917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      They are very good for fast attacks. they run very fast and can jump over the wall. So i was using them very often because of that.

    • @A.O.0
      @A.O.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      bro the anubites r the best if used well ..u can snip economy and jump around really fast ... sad to say u lost alot cause u threw them a way just like he did in this video,,, what u do is make them all jump one unit at the time and its always insta kill . they indeed really cool :)

    • @kongkonsarmahimbecile149
      @kongkonsarmahimbecile149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lul

    • @TG-ge1oh
      @TG-ge1oh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

    • @Pikepaw
      @Pikepaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looked so cool in The Mummy Returns

  • @devangnivatkar2649
    @devangnivatkar2649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I love making the Petsuchos as Egyptians! It's like adding sniper support to your army.

    • @muffinheretic994
      @muffinheretic994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Upgraded Petsuchos is one of the best ranged units in the game, They can fill a similar role as Longbows in regular AoEII, large numbers of them can kill most enemies before they can reach them. Pairing them with a Roc is great 'cause the Petsuchos is so slow otherwise.

    • @Wandrative
      @Wandrative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I always mass petsuchos. defend them with melee, no one can penetrate your base.

    • @Mralien401337
      @Mralien401337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i always go for the Rocs myself, just cuz having a Roc full of catapults is ridiculously stupid yet awesome at the same time

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@muffinheretic994 They are basically myth ballistae

    • @muffinheretic994
      @muffinheretic994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@destubae3271 I agree :D
      also, that is one amazing profile picture, damn nice.

  • @derimmamac767
    @derimmamac767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Why am I doing this to myself at 04.00 am?

  • @Doshade
    @Doshade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I think the hippolyta dying to the mummy special is a bug, being the only hero unit affected by the special. It was fixed on Voobly

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I knew it couldn't be right lol, didn't make sense. Good to know

    • @Doshade
      @Doshade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Nexotic0 yeah, i just heard it the other day on BlackAdders's stream, was a No Voobly patch tournament.

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wish the mummy minion would be a hero minion.

  • @MrMeszaros
    @MrMeszaros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hathor doesn't only give Petsuchos, but also Rocs - a way to sneak in units into the economy and devastate Your enemy

  • @yobachidu6452
    @yobachidu6452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Anubites when jumping: *Y E E T !*

  • @lucasmateus7804
    @lucasmateus7804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Anubites may not be that good, but they're still really cool

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They're my favs nostalgia wise from that age

    • @zebfirehd9102
      @zebfirehd9102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Nexotic0 there jump attack means they can get to archers faster than other units.

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zebfirehd9102 They're considered cavalry in the AOM board game, makes sense. They're basically the "centaur" of Egyptians-- good for certain scenarios

    • @elchudcampeador5642
      @elchudcampeador5642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they're good for raiding and disrupting enemy economy at a decent price and even infiltrating enemy lines if they have walls or getting straight to archers past infantry on the frontline, if you micro them well they are good

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elchudcampeador5642 and they look cool.

  • @DrJonMcNibbles
    @DrJonMcNibbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    You didn't mention the two sphinx upgrades which are very powerful and most importantly cost wood. This is important as getting this upgrade won't slow down their heroic time unlike the gold cost of the Anubite upgrade.

    • @swide2750
      @swide2750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ya but you wont have enough favor and delays 2nd tc for not getting shaftmine

  • @saeedvazirian
    @saeedvazirian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love the sound of the Wadjet.

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's pretty cool indeed :D

    • @flankyfranky3600
      @flankyfranky3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Inspector Wadjet

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satisfying how they have a hack attack sound when it hits their target as well

  • @cano3391
    @cano3391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    My favorite mythical unit:anubite of course
    I really love them since my childhoold

    • @BIacklce
      @BIacklce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My man's watched mummy returns

  • @ePumma
    @ePumma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    All who love aom are special

  • @mememe131199
    @mememe131199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My favourite Egyptian myth unit is Avengers. They just the best, and their special attack is amazing.

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are beasts!

    • @averykleon
      @averykleon ปีที่แล้ว

      They suck!!!

  • @msonisama8656
    @msonisama8656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    man would I FUCKING LOVE a remake right about now

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What do you mean?

    • @msonisama8656
      @msonisama8656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Nexotic0 remake of the game dude, like aoe2de

    • @klavicus2276
      @klavicus2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nexotic0 he means a rework or AoM2

    • @angelmata495
      @angelmata495 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Done

  • @UnFirkenbelieveable
    @UnFirkenbelieveable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You should do some cost levelised tests. For example, versus when they have equal pop, equal resources spent, equal favour.

    • @dirkauditore8413
      @dirkauditore8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not only that but their place in the meta and viability, just because x unit beats y unit doesn't make it better as whole.

  • @calvin5541
    @calvin5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Roc is like a cheat code lol

  • @palanikumar7877
    @palanikumar7877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No Mummy's Cannot use their Special attack against all Hero units, it works just against Hippolyta Hero, it's a known bug. I guess it's fixed with the Extended version.

    • @MrDwarfpitcher
      @MrDwarfpitcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the Extended edition has some very bad bugs that they dont fix so dont count on it.
      Mainly graphical bugs.

  • @Ivan_EGB
    @Ivan_EGB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the hard work bro, i know all that testing was quite time consuming. Great work! Very informative.

  • @AuraB00
    @AuraB00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    " The Mummy" even made this game more interesting. There are three kinds of myth unit in the movie: Anubite, Scorpion man, and Minions.The minions in the movie was super strong. And Rick O'Connel is definitely a hero!

  • @Bakanozo
    @Bakanozo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I see you are a man of culture

  • @bugrilyus
    @bugrilyus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Croc is best when used behind the lines as a damage dealer. It just melts other troops

  • @willianlussin8981
    @willianlussin8981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fine TH-cam i Will play this game again stop recomending to me

  • @Zerberos22
    @Zerberos22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the laser crocodiles are really great just not in melee but as an artillery really good love them also for defense you place them behind your walls and they just laser your foes away

    • @royasturias1784
      @royasturias1784 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Prism
      "Focusing light energy"

  • @german69692007
    @german69692007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your RUNESCAPE Videos

  • @JedediahCyrus
    @JedediahCyrus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit late to this, but even though they aren't the strongest I always found fun uses for the anubites. As an example, while the army would be seiging a wall I would have the anubites target something on the other side, jump over, and then use meteor or something on top of the town center. Their utility to get around defenses to harass villagers is what I found most useful

  • @federicodigioia4463
    @federicodigioia4463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best Myth Units in my opinion for "group" combats and versatility:
    Fire Giants
    Heka Gigantes
    Chimeras
    Revengers (I didnt give credit to this unit while instead is insanely strong and what scary is that it costs ... wood)

    • @federicodigioia4463
      @federicodigioia4463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *food

    • @benhambley7820
      @benhambley7820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@federicodigioia4463 haka gigantes are also very fun in scenario editor :)

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say Centaur is best greek unit. Heka Gigant is best Alt unit, Petsudos is the best egypt unit. Fire giant is the best Norse myth unit. White tigers is the best China unit. lmo. most of the myth units in the game need buffs. They either cost too much population, have to little stats(ad/health) or their ability has too high of cooldown on their special ability.

  • @muridtahmatgnas2184
    @muridtahmatgnas2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't play much of this game but I like that pharaoh thing
    Also we can make it into some dimigod thing which shoots lightning, cool stuff

  • @foodyrulez
    @foodyrulez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sphynx is also a fast unit which means you can just snipe buildings and they cost Food so you can spam them.

  • @Qwerty123zzuy
    @Qwerty123zzuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    These videos are nonsense but i watch them anyway coz i love aom

    • @petertomszabo6268
      @petertomszabo6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not nonsense, if you wanna be tactical.. or if you want to make scenarios and you want to make sure which unit is better for the tasks :)

    • @sniperdubey
      @sniperdubey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petertomszabo6268 They are nonsense because they're not balanced by cost or by terrain. Watch some Spirit of the Law to see how tests like these should be conducted. Comparing a war elephant to a halberdier will always result in the war elephant winning... because it's worth way more than a halberdier. Balance for resources and the halberdiers actually win.

    • @dirkauditore8413
      @dirkauditore8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sniperdubey Also because in this video they don't factor the viability of each unit and how good they are in an actual game. Anubites are used more than sphinx in real games, if im not mistaken.

  • @cloudchaser8650
    @cloudchaser8650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The big issue i have with you assessment of prices is simply put that food is worth the least ammout due to it being infinitely available to all civs. Sure there is trade making wood technically the most important resource, but the fact remains that gold is the most scarce of all the resources map wise, making it worth more than food. I would say 100 gold equals 125 wood and 175 food in general.

  • @FishyT1shy
    @FishyT1shy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just here for my childhood recap...

  • @hybralisk
    @hybralisk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if any of your test areas had some wonky results due to terrain elevation changes. Units attacking others on high ground do less damage and vice versa, in many RTS games. I'll have to learn if that's the case with AoM...
    I looked it up online. So far, the sources I've come across all indicate that many ranged units deal bonus damage to units that are at a lower elevation than they are. I humbly suggest that any future test areas you use have a 100% flat terrain area so there's no wonky bonus stuff affecting your tests. :)

  • @bitterzombie
    @bitterzombie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stacking range with wadjet, petsuchos, slingers, and priests, has always been my favorite strategy. those units are kinda meh on their own but collectively they just destroy

  • @ericobrien8466
    @ericobrien8466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice

  • @ericobrien8466
    @ericobrien8466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice video still can't get over my favorite cup of tea with milk

  • @bvillafuerte765
    @bvillafuerte765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video.

  • @davidcalebdezavilela3654
    @davidcalebdezavilela3654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, sir. You should make a video about the chinese mithical units . I'd like to know about white tiger :# GG

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already have one :) th-cam.com/video/uFCfIhd6IkI/w-d-xo.html

  • @MrReg99
    @MrReg99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to rule as pharaoh

  • @faroukgalal1682
    @faroukgalal1682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved the test but may i point out you didnot take into account , the value the units gives or mention if it has upgrades or which god are you choosing that i am sure will make the results differ , anbuite units are great for harrasement and sniping villagers and archers , scorpion man does actually way better if faced with way bigger armies because of his ability so maybe try a small army size and a big one with 2 units , also each myth unit should be tested against their age upgraded human units

  • @gillnosowitz2795
    @gillnosowitz2795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should watch spirit of the law he does aoe2 and his testing is really well done.

  • @PSNTheSunsRay
    @PSNTheSunsRay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Pharaoh Bonus 😊🌅

  • @nikhilmurthy7096
    @nikhilmurthy7096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see at 4:29 that the Phoenix can be instantly killed by the Mummy's special ability? Can it along with other flying myth units be instantly killed by the Medusa's special ability or does her special ability only work on ground and maybe water units?

    • @nikhilmurthy7096
      @nikhilmurthy7096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ignore the above comment. I found out myself that the Medusa's instant-kill ability doesn't work on flying myth units unlike the Mummy but does work on water myth units which the Mummy also does.

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 ปีที่แล้ว

    Problem with the war turtle is it special attack animation take so long units get alot of free hits on it

  • @TitioVlad
    @TitioVlad ปีที่แล้ว

    All-purpose battle combo:
    - Avenger
    - Scorpion Man
    - War Elephant
    Of course, you're gonna need tons of pop

  • @alienpimp.
    @alienpimp. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mummy can insta hit heroes ? Greek beware !

    • @zincwing4475
      @zincwing4475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only that specific hero, the Age of Empires wiki says in its article about the mummy.

    • @jimhalpert9803
      @jimhalpert9803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A bug?

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimhalpert9803 Yep

  • @Sheer_Tazieh
    @Sheer_Tazieh ปีที่แล้ว

    Correct pronunciation of Anubite is Ahnoobeet
    Thanks for the video

  • @badassbassist
    @badassbassist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you can make a mass of 4 or more crocs...they devastate the opponent army....with some support chariot archers are really good

  • @mee091000
    @mee091000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I'd have to put the Mummy as the best unit in the Mythic Age. It is the most cost efficient and it one shots heroes lol. You can't get much better than that.

  • @zebfirehd9102
    @zebfirehd9102 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the crocdile would be best as gold through trade routes are very good in AOM since you can trade with your own town center

    • @PeachCeca
      @PeachCeca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gives less gold if you trade with your own town center. If you trade with ally, it gives more gold for the same distance.

    • @zebfirehd9102
      @zebfirehd9102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeachCeca Just saying I always have more gold available in this game than in aoe

    • @PeachCeca
      @PeachCeca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zebfirehd9102 yes me too, the trade pays more. But I'm telling you if you trade with ally instead of your town center, you receive more gold for the same distance. And if you play as Egyptian and put the pharaon on the market, it gives 25 percent more gold for every trade made. For example if your trade is bringing 400 gold to your market, you will receive 500.

  • @Tursiopstruncatus
    @Tursiopstruncatus ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite of all is the sphynx: fast, reasonable price and good both against units and buildings. Amass 25 or 30 sphynxes and throw them against the IA base with the eclipse power active, and the IA will be dead.

  • @astrid2432
    @astrid2432 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed, the mummy always insta killed the phoenix, so what would happen, if it target a regular unit, how the result would change

  • @arthurmiranda8896
    @arthurmiranda8896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    without considering cost these tests are useless

  • @saladsnake8289
    @saladsnake8289 ปีที่แล้ว

    When a rotting dead corpse missing bits of flesh and wrapped in cloth is 5 population
    Edit: i guess those insects are included

  • @kevinh723
    @kevinh723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    without watching the videos, I'm going to say probably the avengers.

  • @mccm6167
    @mccm6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agains melle units phoenix are the best. But Putshehos Ra (Crocodile) has long distance damage like catapolt. Scarb are strong agains buildings but if he fight against units and die, Scarb has poison and do damage to units.
    I think Scorpio man make poison toxic if he fights

  • @DarthX4
    @DarthX4 ปีที่แล้ว

    anubites should have been better, but they can jump over walls and anubis has really cool upgrades... also like the scorpions they are here because developpers are fans of the mummy return
    and yes of course dwayne is the best

  • @kastanowthescorpion
    @kastanowthescorpion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is not there hill bonus in AoM?

  • @aariqhasan2801
    @aariqhasan2801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The crocodile thing is called a petsuchos

    • @royasturias1784
      @royasturias1784 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nicknamed by me as Prism Crocs
      Some other pedant: Petsobek

  • @Rofl890
    @Rofl890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    doesn't the fact that your test doesn't take place on perfectly flat ground mess things up?

    • @HawkerBoy11
      @HawkerBoy11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no hill bonus in age of mythology

    • @sirtaelellevalerie1056
      @sirtaelellevalerie1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HawkerBoy11 actualy no, there is hill bonus.

  • @jorne6863
    @jorne6863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But the petsuchos is strong when you have lot of them to one shot something !

  • @xotl2780
    @xotl2780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mummy kicks Avenger ass. That's the one you want!

    • @dirkauditore8413
      @dirkauditore8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except mummy sucks against anything else that isn't myth units. They dont kill human soldiers fast, in fact human soldiers with upgrades kill them quickly. Theyre slow, terrible vs buildings and super easy targets for heroes. Mummies are kind of a counter unit to mythical age myth units and nothing more. The Avenger is a much better unit overall, even if it loses 1v1 to the Mummy.

  • @tahahasan236
    @tahahasan236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only good thing about wadjet is that it heals

  • @joekost1038
    @joekost1038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or does Wadjet react terribly slowly?

  • @julilabas
    @julilabas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think your testing doesen't do justice to ranged units

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Micro-management is a thing so yeah, take those with a grain of salt lol

    • @shadovars9477
      @shadovars9477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nexotic0 well that and it puts them in easy melee range. Petsuchos' range is really high, and starting them off next to the other units doesn't do them justice. They're so strong because you can weaken or kill units before they even get into range. It's not even a question of micromanagement.

  • @harristurpin3503
    @harristurpin3503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anubites are infantry killers tbh

    • @arthurskok5899
      @arthurskok5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      villager killers* they can snipe a huge section of ur opponents eco really quickly. imo they're the best classical myth unit in competitive

    • @harristurpin3503
      @harristurpin3503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arthurskok5899 if it has 2 legs and no magic the anubite can cut it down

  • @kayrius
    @kayrius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the mummy 1shot son of Osiris?

  • @johncmousley
    @johncmousley ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe in Wadjet supremacy

  • @unslaadkrosis9435
    @unslaadkrosis9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oagh i have the absolute hots for the son of Osiris wonder why i am not a furry already

  • @Aryan-hv3lw
    @Aryan-hv3lw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AVENGER

  • @captainquall
    @captainquall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So which god would be best based on these results?

    • @captainquall
      @captainquall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s Ra based on these results

  • @TheGiacomo12345
    @TheGiacomo12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for egyptians avenger is the best frontline and the crocodile is perhaos the more useful.

  • @dnaseb9214
    @dnaseb9214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mummy is the best.

  • @averykleon
    @averykleon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since you don't play Egyptians often, it is obvious why you didn't choose the right units. With strategy, the best units are Anubites, Petsuchos and Phoenix. As for the Roc, it is invaluable in all my games. Mummies are completely useless.

  • @gangisspawn1
    @gangisspawn1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Son of Osiris?

    • @Nexotic0
      @Nexotic0  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's a god power unit technically, that being said I have a specific video for him planned in the future

  • @Mr-je2jr
    @Mr-je2jr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Petsuchos is the best

  • @tyleramon8371
    @tyleramon8371 ปีที่แล้ว

    pet-suu-kus

  • @murray9807
    @murray9807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Egyptians have some killer regular combat units, but their mythological ones suck.

    • @Mr-je2jr
      @Mr-je2jr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Atlantean myth units suck Egyptian ones are good

    • @jimhalpert9803
      @jimhalpert9803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Egyptian regular units are horseshit except stronghold units like elephants.
      Egyptian mythical myth units are nice imo

    • @juresaiyan
      @juresaiyan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. I played yesterday, I attacked during the heroic age with 8 sphinxes and some axemen. I DESTROYED the town in 2 minutes.

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimhalpert9803 And even then, camels can suck, so you're potentially doomed with combined archer/cavalry armies unless you make sure to micromanage

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juresaiyan Axemen are definitely good though

  • @davidcabreonmunoz6258
    @davidcabreonmunoz6258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iurefer

  • @petertomszabo6268
    @petertomszabo6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avengers ! .............
    ASSEMBLE !!

  • @gloinschmelzer7601
    @gloinschmelzer7601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its the avenger, no need for this video

  • @bloopboop9320
    @bloopboop9320 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But does anyone ever buy Avengers? Nope, because they are super boring and their god-powers/upgrades are mid.