Batman was DISRESPECTED in Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
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A lot of you brought up that he did bring up Jason Todd at the end and his hologram is a speech aimed towards kids. Y’all are right, my bad haha, but I still think my points I made on those (his dialogue in the game being off and Jason not considered his “friend”) still apply!
Sweet baby inc could be responsible for the terrible writing
One thing that I should be taken note of is that if you listen to the audio logs in the game it is revelaed the hologram lines were a literal script written by the other memebers of the league for Batman to read which he finds annoying and pointless and didn't want to do them
I don’t understand why you pick a part the game when the game is that way because of this new woke culture that always needs to be addressed until it stops this progressive message. First source material later is why this game is so awful. Be fearless speak your mind
welp... i mean the brain behind the Arkham series are gone
the company just using the Arkham series as a meat puppet
its no wonder they have no issue treating this batman like this
on that note i feel this series and the batman movies
made me realize how crazy batman is
So you don't blame rocksteady, WELL I SURE AS FUCK DO this is the end of the arkhamverse thx to the stupid ass writers at WB. Knight had a way better sendoff, nuff said.
The way Harley said Batman caused “emotional and mental suffering to everyone he ever knew” WHEN SHE HAS CANONICALLY KILLED CHILDREN in this universe, makes no sense. The writing for this game is lazy at best and downright ignorant at worst.
That + the micro-transactions, server issues and repetitive gameplay, It’s just horrible. It’s like the writers didn’t even pay attention to what happened in the original Arkham games.
This was in development for 10 years, it barely looks better than knight and it’s story is about 10 hours long!!!
Whoa, when did she kill children?
@@thejoker4676That’s why Jason Todd went after Joker and Harley in this universe. They blew up a school bus and rearranged all the body parts of the children to be mixed and matched
why are they trying to trick fans into hating a character theyve grown to love for an entire game franchise lmao stupid asf
@@thejoker4676 Basically, at some point before Asylum, Joker (and presumably Harley) went into a kindergarten or day care and cut the kids up then stitched the limbs/heads on the wrong bodies. It's also the same incident that led to Jason getting kidnapped.
This ain’t Batman. This is “Man” from the infamous r/Arkham
Why did man loose to soycide quad? Is he stupid?
LOL
Facts
Even Man is is better than this crap
now it all makes sense. the Jonkler wrote this game
Arkham Joker would be looking up from hell watching what happened to Batman saying “What the fuck is this”
“You can’t die now Batman! You survived everything I threw at you, only to die like this?!”
There's no way that this game can be cannon. There's a joker in this game that looks nothing like the Arkham verse joker and well his dead
Joker: kill Harley quinn
I like the idea of joker reviving himself out of pure rage just to kill the suicide squad.
@@Steven-lz1vo because
A. He didn't get to do it
B. Without batman crime has no punchline
I feel like the main bossfight just felt like a bossfight you'd see in a lego game. The main boss just stands infront of you and you just attack, dodge their attack, fight random minion, repeat.
Lego Batman 3
Lego Batman 3 did that and treated him better
Like the other guy said it reminded me of Lego Batman 3's boss fight for him a lot. Also I have to say you have a very lovely profile picture
Lego games can literally utilize DC characters abilities better than this game.
I was expecting Brainiac to have forms of the JL characters but he only used the Flash for some reason. So poor for a final boss even if it's a live service
The worst part is Although the Arkham Batsuit isn't Bulletproof, it can take Pistol shots, it's an important plot point in the endgame which is how Gordon tricked scarecrow. His cowl and chest are specifically made to take the most shots. How does he die? A PISTOL. TO THE COWL.
Edit: He wasn't shot in the mouth part, stop commenting that please
Underrated comment
I just explained it away that his suit got shot up so many times, I mean you look at his suit and it's full of bullet holes, so I just figured they broke his armor down. Absolute bullshit, but that's the whole game anyways.
@@reeceweston10 there weren't many dents in the cowl in his death cutscene
maybe if it was a handgun bullet, but it was from an revolver which is way stronger than a handgun
@@brug6998it was probably from the head trauma from how close the shot was from him
I didn't collect all those trophies for bats to go out like that
Dude fr 💀
Facts 😂
omg I have never related more to a comment in my life
so true
For real
The worst part is that Batman's cowl has literal BULLET DENTS in it showing that his cowl is BULLETPROOF in this game SPECIFICALLY
If he’s shot from point blank range it won’t work and she could have shot through the opening in his mouth or in the eye
@@xxbatman69xx98 Even in the Batman Vs superman movie, he gets shot at point blank range and the bullet bounces off. This is supposedly Arkham Batman which is probably the strongest and most durable incarnation of Batman in any media. So his helmet should be able to take the shot with ease. Its also clear she wasnt shooting him in the eye or mouth. The developers didnt know what the fuck they were doing. They added the sound of a shell casing drop on the floor for a fucking revolver. Revolvers keep the damn casing inside until emptied.
Then to make matters worse, they threw in a shell drop sound effect… when she is using a revolver…. 🫠
@@AllanElMelon1043😭😭Just noticed that detail, tf was they thinking.
@@AllanElMelon1043 so what’s stopping him from being shot in the mouth or eye? And no this isn’t the Batman vs Superman movie if he’s shot point blank he will die and that’s consistent in all of the Arkham games which you should be looking at.
Nobody who complains about this scene talks about background music after he gets shot. We not only hear the sad melody of previous Arkham games, but also children running around and laughing. It's like the creators know that many of the players of this game played Arkham Asylum as kids, it represents their childhood. And this was their way of saying:
"We killed your childhood. Here it is, lying dead. Deal with it"
😢😢😢
True
I think what they meant was something about Harley overcoming some shit. But you’re right these fucking writers are so out of touch with the pervious Arkham that I have to believe that they are not the same writers as before
@@zousui7238 They arent, the original Rocksteady team left and formed their own studio. This entire game is basically just the new team saying "this wasnt our game, we dont care about it or the arkham games, screw the playerbase"
I am not saying what they did was right but the way you said was funny 😂
Yeah nah this shit ain't canon anymore
You are correct good sir.
I agree I'm not getting it rocksteady could have been fine but chose the avengers route
It never was. Deadshot has revitiligo.
Let's pretend This game is an Elseworld and not Canon To the Arkhamverse.
Damn right
Let face it, suicide squad only connected with the Arkham verse for money. The suicide squad is just a cardboard cut outs from James guns suicide squad.
agreed 1000% i’m not touching this game nor giving it the time of day. not giving these type of project’s attention or energy will make DC think twice before pumping out garbage like this. RIP Kevin Conroy he deserved better, his character deserved better.
It's connected because creating an entire separate universe is a lot harder than just connecting it to the existing one.
That would make much more since seeing how deadshot is black in this game and in the movie and he's white in arkham city
And they release the game almost a decade too late for it to have any brand value or tie in hype around it. The movie is ancient by now lom
@@TheBritishGuy75so why add a whole new joker?
The hall of justice Hologram sounds like a batman parody you'd see in the boys
Harley over the shoulder carrying a fully decked out Batman is insane 😂 that’s like 250lbs
Batman looks like he weighs 250lbs before his gear.
She couldn’t even do it.
Did you not see her struggling?
@@greytakerrev7147she shouldn’t even be able to carry him
@@youcanbemysweatshiiiirt9728 def with all that armor and gadgets? sheesh
Rocksteady treats Batman the way Naughty Dog treats Joel from The Last of Us Part 2
It was Sweet Baby Inc.
More like Johnny klebitz in gta 5
@@sup3414Nah Fr 😂😂😂
They act like Batman murdered an entire family and deserves to die, when in actuality the worst he did was punch a poor murderer too hard for some of the audience’s comfort. Harley has literally torn apart families with the countless Innocent bodies she has in her closet, why does this game treat Batman likes HE’S the serial killing clown that doesn’t get punished for said actions and is only seen as a traumatized victim?
I'd argue it's worse. At the very very least, Joel's death made some kind of sense and the overall story revolved around it.
This alone makes Gotham Knights look like a masterpiece in comparison
Gotham Knights is way worse than this game lol. Gotham Knights is like a mobile game compared to SSKTJL which is actually good.
@@TheBritishGuy75 only gameplay wise.. but sucks at everything else
@@TheBritishGuy75well you’re not wrong but at least gotham knights killed batman in a respectful manner
@@TheBritishGuy75
Suicide Squad is a good game 🤣. Nice joke buddy. You're joking right?
Agreed. This is garbage compared to Gorham Knights
At first i thought everyone was just mad at the fact batman died now im realising that batman was completely disrespected
Even in Gotham Knights, he had a more epic and heroic death and he wasn't even Arkhamverse Batman.
this shouldn’t have ever been in the arkham verse. warner bros attached it to the universe for publicity, the characters don’t even resemble their arkham counterparts. Batman, harley, deadshot, robin are all so different with lousy or non existent explanations. Warner bros treated their fans and characters with disrespect through this whole process. I have sympathy for rocksteady who i’m sure didn’t want to make this and all of us seeing the universe we love butchered.
Yeah, Rocksteady may need to let DC games go, unfortunately. WB is ruining them.
And yes, a lot of problems are solved if you just set this in its own universe. Make it an Elseworlds story. It is tied to Arkham, technically, even though it clearly wasn't meant to be.
This game taunts Arkham fans for loving the Arkham franchise
1. Harley rejects asylum costume from locker
2. Harley carries Batman the same way batman did
3. This Batman can't stop screaming "I am vengence, i am......"
4. Arkham Batman won't crack standup routine joke when facing death.
5. Harley defeated arkham batman with jer neurochemistry degree 💀
What happened to rocksteady mann 🤒
It’s the arkham knight costume not asylum dork 🤡
You forgot the worst one, he turns into a giant hallucination that you shoot at about 20000 times and then all the hallucination disappears and a bloody batman lays there.
It was her Arkham Knight design…not Arkham Asylum.
- They managed to get The Mad Hatter’s name wrong in the museum. They called him Jarvis Tetch when it’s Jervis
- somehow Cash was demoted to an Arkham Guard, somehow
- the whole Deadshot imposter bs
Not just arkham fans, DC fans as well. The way they handled the whole lantern lore included John was awful, lantern rings don't work like that, John's bio sucked asf.
And he shouldn't have been killed to begin with, i am glad Hal ain't in this game since at least it wasn't my goat that got killed, but John is one of my favs along with the rest of The JL, so seeing it end up like this hurts
While I don't think it would have made the game better, I think they definitely would have been viewed less negatively if he just had not been set in the same universe.
it would be less bad
but then it still would be dogshit with writing alone
Exactly. Just say its an alternative timeline and its not OUR Arkham Batman, with whom we have been on such an emotional epic rollercoaster for 15 years... It just hurts...
Would have worked if it was set in an alternate universe or timeline
this. the main issue people have is that its arkham batman. if it was a different universe, people wouldnt have been as pissed
@@ballerinaonamusicbox exactly no one saying the squad doesn't exist Montréal wanted to make one with deathstroke but it never happened with all those people in that studio did no one say hey let's make a suicide squad game set in an alternate gotham
Tim Drake being killed off screen is horrendously written WOW and upon further watching I'm sure all fans will agree this is not cannon at all.
And what is the point of him dying he is never addressed in the story and if they didn’t have him die the game would still be the same
@@neridust4178 After seeing more about the game I'm convinced the writers were trying to make the game as insulting as possible to Arkham fans, the reason, not really sure, maybe they thought it was gonna be funny? Taken as a joke? Well I guess they were somewhat right, it's a joke.
I can only assume so that when people inevitably ask “where was robin? Why wasn’t he helping Batman or the suicide squad” there’s an answer, he’s possibly dead so he couldn’t do anything
The fact that King Shark had his head blasted off in the Assault on Arkham movie opens up a few questions.
Deadshot was white in it too
Oh but you see that dead shot is an impostor, and since we already had that answer as a bullshit cop out, that king shark was ALSO an impostor, we swear we studied the Arkham lore
@@zerocrashmuriloNope. An audio in the game reveals that the White Deadshot was, indeed, Deadshot. But from another Earth. A Deadshot with the same skills, bullets and weapon. Not the same, but not an "impostor".
I don’t think that movie is canon anymore.
Insane how disrespectful it was that Harley cried when Wonder Woman died but didn't give af when she kills Batman
The dude that spared her
Even though she was a
Criminal.
She enjoyed killing him, I didn’t like how they did him
@@elongatedmanforever1252 yup...nvm everything they went through in asylum city and knight none of it mattered
She has always hated Bats
she is a massive wonder women fan girl
Batman could defeat them all with one gadget: Disrupter
HOW WILL YOU SHOOT BATMAN WHEN YOUR GUNS ARE DISABLED?
Edit: The only person who’s gun should be immune, would be Deadshot’s are mounted blasters, since they are Nontraditional firearms. But as for the rest of the squad, all of their snipers, mini guns, shotguns, and assault rifles should be exploitable by Batman disruptors. And coincidentally, the most upgraded version we see in the Arkham series has just enough rounds for each of them. 4 shots, 4 guns. That’s assuming Batman hasn’t upgraded his gear in the last five years. Heck, if he has upgraded his disruptor, maybe he could have accounted for specially designed weapons like deadshot’s are mounted cannons.
Right
What's even more annoying is the game says the disruptor WAS actually used, it's why they can't use their special abilities.
Lmao i forgot about that. another reason this game story is abysmall
Well, he did bring up Jason Todd at the very end
brooo u are right 😂😂😂😂😂 braniac batman is legit 200 steps ahead of the suicide squad...
Sefton and Jamie did the right move by leaving before this shit hit the fan. What a mess.
This game honestly wouldnt have nearly as much backlash for the story at least if it was just a game set in another universe, but they had to go and claim it was part of the Arkham universe. A new DC game from rocksteady would have been enough to get people interested, but in tying it to those game its just ended up a mess and shows how little the new studio cares for their own history. Imo this game has nothing to do with the Arkham games, that franchise ended with Arkham Knight.
exactly what im saying
Even Gotham Knights had a better plot for Batman... Batman died while actually putting up some sort of fight and seeing the batfamily taking over after him was actually made sense compared with
whatever rocksteady did here. Also Arkham Batman suit makes him faster so ue could've easily done a multi fear takedown before he got shot like he did with Hush in Arkham Knight
And this is what happens when good ideas get rejected for something stupid or something more batshit crazy no pun intended
@@windmaster9 Is there a Lore reason for that unintended pun?
@@johnrenwelmauro2387 yes its called developers always think they're stand alone ideas will work
@@windmaster9 i would say gotham city did try though the game was flawed. I can still commend them for at least trying. But this shit, naw man. Batman losing and those 4 bonkers unscathed in his batcave. I dont believe this is batman
It becomes increasingly evident that this game's attempts to pass itself off as a canon addition to the Arkham series are nothing short of a joke. Multiple plot-holes arise that undermine its legitimacy as a true extension of the Arkham universe.
First of all, the inconsistencies with Batman's role in the game disrupt the established narrative. In Arkham Knight, Batman entrusts the Batfamily to protect Gotham while he disappears into the shadows due to his secret identity being exposed. However, in SSKJL, we are expected to believe that Batman can be brainwashed and manipulated to the point of killing the Batfamily. This sudden change contradicts the previous game and strains credibility. How can we accept that Batman, a symbol of mental strength and resilience, would succumb so easily to external control after everything he endured in Arkham Knight? It doesn't make any sense.
Furthermore, what struck me as peculiar was the decision to change Deadshot's race in SSKTJL. Apparently, this change was driven by corporate decisions and the influence of Will Smith's portrayal of Deadshot in the Suicide Squad movie. It seems like they wanted to align the character with the actor's race. And then they tried to justify this change by claiming that the Deadshot we encountered in the previous Arkham games wasn't the real Deadshot. Now, that raises a whole bunch of questions. If Batman had already encountered the original Deadshot, how could he be fooled by an imposter? It just doesn't add up and once again exposes a glaring lack of attention to detail and disregard for the established lore.
Most troubling of all is the absence of any mention of the Justice League in the Arkham games, which serves as a glaring plot hole in this game. Throughout the Arkham series, the existence of the Justice League as a united force is never acknowledged. This creates a significant disconnect, as the entire premise of the game revolves around the Suicide Squad taking on the Justice League. How can such a conflict occur in a universe where the Justice League was never established? The lack of continuity demonstrates a blatant disregard for the established lore and dismisses the intricate world-building that fans have come to appreciate.
*TL;DR:* SSKTJL attempts to masquerade as a canon addition to the Arkham series, but its pretense crumbles under scrutiny. The inconsistencies with Batman's role, the corporate-driven race change for Deadshot, and the absence of any mention of the Justice League in the Arkham games expose a lack of respect for the established narrative and disregard for fan expectations. Rather than a seamless inclusion into the Arkham universe, the game comes across as a hasty and ill-conceived attempt to capitalize on the franchise's popularity.
Not to mention, the game wasn't even made by the same devs who made the Arkham games (they went off to found Hundred Star Games), so it doesn't really matter what today's Rocksteady, or should I say "Sweet Baby Inc," think is canon. I wish more people understood this concept. There is more to a studio than its name.
The original team that made the arkham games left the company, so lets agree this is non-cannon 😊
This could be a "What If...?" but Warner is promoting this as a sequel to Arkham Knight...
Agreed my Canon is Asylum, City, Knight, Ill take Assult on Arkham in the stead of SSKTJL and Origins and Origins Blackgate who were both Judged way to harshly in comparason to this mess. If the in prohress Shadows is good itll go in the canon pule positives current Rocksteady were booted from it now the ones who made vr iron man which ive heard good things about are i. Charge downsides only on meta but hopefully will be ported and be a actual stpry instead of that batman vr tech demo thing
5:30 “Mommy Robbie’s Harley” in the subtitles, nice.
The way he said "NOOOOOO" when he died was so goofy
Arkham Batman’s send off is like a f*ck you with roses
Its jake skywalker, joel tlou
all over again.
Nah Joel was better because at least Elly cared that he died and it set the story. In this he just dies and it’s like a joke to everyone.
@@user-js4mh5bz3nfr, here it’s just “oh hey you like Arkham Batman?” Then proceeds to throat punch you and insult you for loving a character
you forget that this wasnt meant to be a send off
@@thegamingguy8636how was it not. He died in this game. Was the send off supposed to be to his ghost in the next game?? What are you talking about???
Arkham batman would have broken every bone in Harleys body before she could ever put a gun to his head lmao
Replays Arkham city encounter where she is a counter not a boss ever.
@@reykhan2453She is in the dlc but only for Robin
I like to imagine this as not batman just braniac and that its not batman fighting its just how he sees batman
I'm playing Knight right now and I concur sir.
He didn't just brake them..Her bone will be dust in the wind..Before she ever come close to him.
The downfall of Rocksteady needs to be studied💀
None of the JL were acting like themselves so this could affect their combat ability if they were thinking differently right? Also Kevin Conroy knew what he was signing up for. Sadly as he is no longer with us they needed to wrap up his story.
that’s what i’m thinking. like he’s some alien hypnotised version of batman, why would he have complete control and understanding about himself but also be evil and completely under control at the same time!
I just realized, Alfred was with Bruce during the Knightfall ending, so I imagine he would’ve been helping him out with Batman stuff, but he never appears in the main game at all. Did he also get killed off-screen by evil Batman? Or maybe he died off-screen between games? I hope not, considering he was pretty much the primary supporting character in every Arkham game. He should’ve been the one eulogizing Batman at the end of the game. Having Lois Lane of all people doing it is odd considering she doesn’t do the same for Superman.
Omg the last part I agree
Maybe he died of old age? He was pretty old in arkham knight. I would say he’s in his 60’s in knight .
How cool would it have been if Jason Todd was the one to bring Batman back after Batman was the one to bring him back in Arkham Knight.
@@magita199160’s isn’t that old considering this game takes 5 years after knight so around 65 which even then isn’t that old in both our time and the Arkham verse
Don’t Quote Me On This But I Believe He Was Killed Offscreen
Funny thing is isnt this basically the same team that batman destroyed in Attack on arkham? Just no killer frost or black spider.
Yes, yes it is
Yeah. But now Harley has a low level woke superpower😂.
@@raysure1345 I’ll still play it but only for the gameplay and the future seasons, I won’t lie the main campaign has its fun moments but overall, very sloppy
@@TheSsjJoker I won’t play it.
@@raysure1345 lol
Rocksteadly spectacularly failed to read the room.
It's like Rocksteady is now ashamed of their own Batman games, so they ended their character on the most contemptuous and deliberately antagonistic notes that they could.
This quote makes a lot of sense for the Arkham franchise now “ you either die a hero or live long enough to see your self become the villain “
Batman was a hero but died a "villain" according to harley
thats the worst part.
The quote applies to Rocksteady
what sucks is he did die a villain technically. Even though he was brainwashed he freaking killed Robin and for all we know the whole bat family off screen and ended up a murderer just like he always feared he would.
@@JokerFan-hj4iv
He didnt even know he did
Which makes it worse.
@@JokerFan-hj4iv
Why are the justice
League members
So easy to kill??
I mean brainiacs
Mind control doesnt
Give them advanced
Powers or anything??
He didn’t even bring up Alfred either and it’s sad because most of the questions we’ve all asked will never be answered
1:36 There's an audio log where batman records these exact lines and he tells Flash if this is actually the best use of their time to even record it. Bruce even says "Line.." meaning he didn't write it and is hinted at that Flash was the one who wrote the script.
I completely agree with you on Batman’s dialogue, he would never say those things out loud
Not even to mention that it should have been harder or impossible to mind control Batman since he already was almost mind controlled by Joker and he won.
He should have escaped and helped the suicide squad, instead it was wonder woman who was not brainwashed even though she is the one who always charges at her enemies first , so it should have been easier to capture her already.
So he should have made a contingency for mind control or something in general, rather than be a generic superhero.
Maybe both have Wonder Woman and Batman help would have been better
@@alexhambleton9513 well they would be OP af honestly, like there would be no need for suicide squad
You really comparing the effects of the fear toxin / joker mind things to the mind control of one of the most powerful beings in the DC universe?
@manohman8587 Man what u just said made no sense bruh, why are u comparing Scarecrow fear toxin control to the mind control of Brainiac who is an advanced alien wit advanced technology. That's not a good comparison my nigga, they are not the same
@@clipsdelosmajesExactly, thank u, he thinks he's cooking and saying some deep shit, his comparisons makes no sense, they are not even the same
Crazy thing is no matter what Harley has done she’s still evil in my eyes can’t and won’t forget about what her and joker did to those kids. She’ll never truly be a hero or be redeemed in my eyes.
And she calls out Batman for giving criminals "emotional damage " lol like she hasnt done horrible things to innocent people
They wrote this Harley like in Injustice or BAS lol, the Arkhamverse Harley has always been completely evil with no redeeming qualities in every Arkham game so far.
What kids
@@TDOTSE1In the Arkham games you get back stories from collecting riddler trophies. One of them talk about how the Joker and possibly Harley killed a bunch of kids and mutilated their bodys to be mixed up. Then in batgirls dlc you can find audio tapes that tell you how joker and harley gave a 5 year old to that Dr from arkham asylum to test out the titan formula on her. She died and Harley gives her dad a pill made from the joker that kills the dad. And Jason goes after them for killing all of those kids. But he got captured and tortured.
They pull straight from recent Harley comics, and the SS movies of course because money.
This DOES NOT work because Harley in this universe has not shown even a smudge of remorse once in any game.
Man when I seen Robin's mask my heart dropped 😔
naughty dog: we did something daring and divisive
Rocksteady: hold my beer
reminder this is the same batman who managed to resist a massive dose of the strongest version of the fear toxin all the while jokers infectious blood is overtaking he's mind and he stopped all of that through his sheer will power and mental fortitude and we're supposed to bleave brainiac can just mind control him instantly without any trouble and don't get me started how the way batman joined the justice league completely screws over knights ending
Like why was knight made in the first place if this was gonna happen I would rather the arkham verse ended with 4 games instead of getting its legacy ruined like this
its so confusing to me why tf would he fake his death if he was just going to join the justice league and reveal his identity to the world???
@@windmaster9I think the Arkham Series was originally supposed to end with Arkham Knight, but seeing the opportunity to take money from the Arkham fanbase, Rocksteady/WB put together this pile of garbage
I was thinking that also. Someone , if not Batman should be able to had to be able to withstand the mind control
@@raysure1345 yeah other then wonder woman for some odd reason plus batman wouldn't be stupid enough to get captured and would have had 5 backup plans and two secret hideouts in this situation
11:17 Arkham Batman literally cake walked the entire Suicide Squad in Assault on Arkham including King Shark. This game just should’ve never been made.
havn't seen that movie but doesn't King shark die in that movie
@@seamusmcknight3656 Yes
It was an impostor like Deadshot 😂
Yeah that movie was badass.
Batman was beating the crap out of the suicide squad in that movie.
arkham batman would not lose a fight in his own batcave against escpecially to a group of misfits with big weaknesses.
A better boss fight would have been like this: The Suicide Squad gets some miracle tech that allows them to see Batman everywhere, as if he has nowhere else to run or hide. So, if the battle is in the city, he will try to surprise the squad and use the fear toxin to his advantage. The hallucinations would make the battle more unique, as he appears out of nowhere, tries to shoot them, or throw batarang, but they counter him , and every time he gets shot, he uses a smoke bomb and tries to escape, but they chase him, essentially not letting him escape until he's overwhelmed and defeated.
I think Rocksteady knew killing off Arkham Batman was a terrible idea but just did it for the publicity. All the videos I see on SSKTJL are just on how they disrespected and nerfed Batman. Rocksteady needed Batman to die for people to talk about their game because without Batman's death, Suicide Squad is just a mediocre looter shooter.
At least they can only pull that shit once, no ones going to give a shit about the game or any of the New Rocksteady's games after this.
they already had the Arkham series behind their back, more publicity is really not needed. keep in mind most if not all the people at rocksteady now are completely new and didnt work on the arkham series, so i think they really thought this was a good idea
@@reykhan2453exactly, there's no payoff to this. Rocksteady and their new crew of morons are dead on arrival.
@@deekay6254the truth is they knew it was a bad idea but did it anyway because it's not targeted at the fans. Same mindset and situation like current Marvel and Star Wars.
They were so preocuppied with the thought of if they could that they never stopped and thought if they should.
Man! You aren't kidding! That speech Batman gives is INSANELY cheesy!!! That is some baaaad writing right there!
Not gonna lie, I imagined animated batman from "the brave and the bold" saying it, man, I miss that show, it was more cheesy than Cheetos, but it was also a love letter to silver age Batman, when you didn't need enough edge that only holding the game disc would provide several deep cuts.
@@Dewani90 agreed.
@@Dewani90 I've got to admit that I don't usually like my Batman that way. All fantastical like that. But it WAS a good show. And Dietrich Bader is a good Batman too. The difference between that show and what I've seen of Batman's characterization in this game though; The Brave and the Bold was leaning into that silliness deliberately. If that's what this game was trying to do,I don't think it reads the way they wanted it to.
It's for kids bro r y'all stupid??? He's talking like that to try and guide the youth stg bro y'all r dumb
Thank you! I'm so glad I'm not the only one bothered by him saying "I am vengeance, I am the night..". It felt more like parody than anything else, and not good parody
The sheer incompetence of rocksteady. They show early on they know batman's appeal of him being stealthy and stalking the suicide squad. Nightmare batman should have been that on steroids, a Mr freeze like fight but more survival horror, where you are isolated and batman stalks you. You have to spot him in the dark or listen to sound queues to counter him when he is about to strike. That would have been cool and be a nice change of pace to have that in an otherwise action game. After the fear toxin wears off, it could be more of a traditional boss fight but it shouldn't be a bullet sponge fight, it should be tactical.
There is one thing I like about this game...
Batman's suit looks nice
Probably a bit controversially, I actually prefer his suit in this game over Arkham Knights just a TINY bit. But the gauntlets in Suicide Squad are bad. If you mashed the two suits together, it would be a perfect semi-armoured suit
Agreed
The batsuit in this game is nice. Superman's and greenlantern also have nice suits. I also like him without the cowl.
I'm torn between it and the post Arkham city suit he wears in arkham knight (before getting the armored suit)
It’s just the telltale suit with a paintjob 😂
@@Bugplanet8840I didn’t think of that
Us Halo fans are here for y'all. I'm a fan of both franchises, personally, but we've got some room for y'all in our safe room.
Thanks bro
Bro i hate this game so mf much, whoever green lit this game I wish terrible things upon them. Disrespected the childhood of millions of gamers across the world, killed our beloved heroes in the most idiotic and disrespectful ways. Graphics were horrible. Main cast was annoying. Dialogue was cringe. Graphics are somehow worse than a 9 year old game. I have genuinely never been this angry about a piece of media.
No room is safe in that realm
That trash halo tv show is killing the fandom the most.
@@monke6937 blame feminism
He did mention Jason when talking about how to take himself down but it IS very brief. It implies that they’re not on the best terms.
I kind of felt the same way about Bat feeling out of character in his speech at the Hall of Justice. Couldn't put my finger on exactly why, but I think you summarized it well.
The interesting part about this is that you don't need to be a batman fan to notice the plethora of BS this games puts on the table
I haven't played any Arkham game and even I'm mad they'd ruin something this clearly for yall.
@@jayday187I'm a long time arkham fan and people need to quit bitching so much it's a game called kill the justice league ffs what do they think is gonna happen?
@thefreeencyclopedia7244 It's a shit game. Lore wise and Gameplay wise. And doesn't deserve the price tag. If you want people to stop bitching. Then they should make a good game.
@@thefreeencyclopedia7244 The premise is on the tittle, and that's alright. I'm fine with the justice league dying in the game. The problem is how it was made. Poorly made without any respect for the characters neither the fans.
Mf gotta be a clone or some shi
No clones it's them unfortunately the rocksteady writers put in that way
It can't be the Arkham Batman, it's just some bullshit AU, just take a look at Deadshot, mf pulled some Micheal Jackson shit in this game
Well the voice actor is dead now soooooo
Nah it gotta be Hush.
Lol yes I hope it’s hush and they get someone who sounds like Kevin and make Batman Arkham world where Batman wakes up from a bad dream and it turns out the writers of rocksteady were hypnotizing him for money but he breaks out and breaks his no killing rule just to kill all of them.
Joker would be rolling in his grave if he seen the way Batman went out
"This is how it happened. This is how the Batman died."
_what a joke_
Current theory is that braniac still has the league and the ones we battled were clones as flash's finger wasnt cut off and GL's ring acting like it does and Superman not dying to kryptonite. Comicstorian did an entire thing about it.
Still doesn’t make less gay lmao
How cool would it have been if Jason Todd was the one to bring Batman back after Batman was the one to bring him back in Arkham Knight.
^*THIS*^
+ he used guns, perfect member to join the Squad. Gameplay wise easy peacy to code. Him not being here again confirmed that Rocksteady doesn’t care about Arkham games.
Or alternatively, he should’ve been the one to kill Batman. He spent all of Arkham Knight trying to kill Batman out of hatred, but failed. Here, Jason succeeds in killing Batman but he doesn’t want to at this point because he patched things up with Bruce. Irony at its finest.
What I hate about every new shitty game is that someone in the comments always has a super simple solution that would've been infinitely cooler that it makes you wonder wtf the actual writers are busy doing.
Batman would just come back as Zar En AR.
The thing that's wild to me is like, the Arkham games put Rocksteady on the map in a big way. It's super disrespectful not only to the character but to themselves too. A real shame
They had to link it to the Arkham 🦇 for 💰 purposes but more importantly for the new people in charge to 💩 on the old employed character.
There was one part that really confirmed my suspicions (along with many other suspicions) that the writers for this game did not do their homework for the Arkham franchise when Harley mentions the line “not that bright” to Batman right before she shoots him. The line she’s referencing is a piece of dialogue from Arkham City when Batman mentions to Alfred that “Quinn was never too smart” right before he encounters her in the church. The problem with that is Quinn wasn’t near him when he said that so there is no way she heard him say that about her to even be able to reference that lol.
Glad you picked up on how out of character his dialogue was. Arkham Batman simply does not talk like that.
because it wasnt batman? did you all forget the point that the justice league is controlled by brainiac?
@@thegamingguy8636yes but for example that hologram dialogue was before they got mind controlled and it still doesn’t sound like Arkham Batman
@@user-gt7vi9jm9mwhy would Arkham Batman agree to do this… literally just cheesy bullshit to gas him up to fans of the justice league. Arkham Batman wouldn’t is the answer… even in the justice league Batman is really kindve on the outskirts and feels like he picks and chooses when he wants to help
I thought Harley beating Nightwing in Arkham episodes was a stretch, but THIS???
That's was complete bullsh*t she shouldn't be touching Nightwing. Iwould've believed it if he was held by ivy's vine for Harley to beat him and even then it should've been hard.
His short dlc (he was playing with penguin and his men without breaking a sweat) and his team up with batman to fight croc (og dynamic duo badassery)
@@baki484 exactly.
Treat it as a different dimension Arkham Batman. That brings some comfort
You know what also gets me about the Batman Boss fight.
Harely basically pulled a reverse uno on BATMAN.
Basically turning his own chemicals against him.
Honestly agreed on this, but with the museum hologram, it's for kids, and in audio, he says he doesn't want to say this, really. And then with Ivy well its not her, really it's basically her kid. And with Tim i don't think he's dead as his body isn't there. But the bossfight is literally somehow Harley got a Fear toxin formula from Crane in Arkham and overdoses the Squad on it. And again with the bossfight he literally uses the disruptor on their tech, but for some reason, he doesn't use it on their guns, which he can make EXPLODE. Along with having explosive batarangs, freeze grenades, the rec gun, and the disruptor alone would be enough to stop them
He used the disrupter from City which doesn’t have the same capabilities as the Knight disrupter that’s why he doesn’t explode the guns
@@alexhambleton9513 he should logically have both as this is post Knight and the one from Knight would be out of the prototype stage now
@@jlpgaminexactly like wtf
like bro in arkham knight you cant disrupt a brutes minigun twice cause it would kill him (which he literally tells you) why cant he disrupt king sharks minigun??
@@jlpgamin good old PLOT CONVENIENCES where the character is equipped with the wrong weapons for the wrong situations god I hate that. the gadget was that op it probably would have been to easy for him if he used that then the suicide squad wouldn’t have stood a chance
This game is as canon as the Arkham comics. It's the same style, but not right. They ruined the Arkham lore and fandom. RockSteady will never regain their fandom after this. They killed Arkham Batman and spit on his grave.
They'll buy the next game same as before
I mean…all it is is just a retcon away from just being known as an alternate universe. Who knows if WB and Rocksteady will go that route though? Hopefully they do. But goddamn please calm down with the “spit on his grave” comments lmao. It’s just a game lol, it was never that serious. Hell what did y’all expect it’s literally in the title and was talked about even before the game released.
@@kashavok but they kinda did. If Batman went out in a similar way to Wonder Woman not nearly as much Outrage would have happened. Batman getting executed on a park bench by Harley Quinn is the biggest slap in the face. Batman should've died better.
@@braydenpage1808 in my eyes, a death is a death lol… That’s just me personally though.
@@kashavokA death is only a death to you until it's a character you love that dies unfairly.
I agree with every critique you made about this game. To me also it is not cannon. This video also earned my subscription.
And his overreaction after being interuppted ahhhhhh. The guy went toe to tow with bane. Arkham asylum shows that the back breaking event did occur in the past. In origins which was canon as well he goes against a young formidable bane, gets thrown through walls with small grunts of pain. But a needle injection from luthor is enough to make yell out.
This is not even the Same Harley Quinn at all from the Arkham Games to me.
She doesn't even talk the same. This feels like Injustice Harley
To be fair. What he said in the hologram is pretty good if you remember that this entire thing is basically designed for little kids. So i think it would fit for him to be a little light hearted.
They should’ve had Batman beat the shit out of all of them, but before he kills them one of the Suicide Squad somehow deactivates Brainiac’s control on him.
This was their plan because they knew they couldn’t beat Batman and he would also be the only one to help them defeat Superman.
cant reverse brainiacs mind control, its practically impossible, you would literally need an entire new brain
The problem is, that would be GOOD and RESPECTFUL writing. They did not want that.
In an alternate universe we're getting a justice league game with fully playable superman, batman, wonder woman, the flash, and green lantern, cause rocksteady was given the proper respect and resources for their projects. In another alternate universe we get a superman game, in another we get a flash game, in another we get green lantern game, in another we get wonder woman game. Yup I'm just gonna believe that
in another universe sweet baby inc. was blown to smithereens
I had a fear grow in me when the founders of Rocksteady left. It's never a good sign when the oldest employees leave. I felt relieved a little bit with initial trailer, but as more and more kept coming out, I kinda kept that bit of fear. I was looking forward to the hopes that this game being good, but now I don't believe I will ever get it. This is not the Arkham universe. Arkham Batman ended with his family reunited, the disappearance of Bruce Wayne, a long shadowy figurine taking his place after a long Halloween night. He wouldn't be caught talking about his past to the general public, losing himself to someone's mind, killing others, losing to criminals he has beaten plenty of times, only to die only on a park bench.
This is not the same knight that swore to protect the city of Gotham that we played. This isn't even the same company that made those games anymore. That company is gone. What was their work has just been mashed together with the movie universe, and now it sits as this game. I was hoping to buy it, but I probably never will.
It's so disheartening for a company that handled most of the characters with care, then go do this...
I was kinda hoping for there to be a twist where Batman breaks out of the mind control or for him to get captured in the end game... but no- sadly we got what we got. Hopefully they will redeem themselves with an actual continuation of the story... but for now, Knight is where the cannon ends for me.
@JamyBot I don't expect there to be a redemption. The only thing I'll be looking forward to is to whatever Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill do with their new company, Hundred Stars Studios.
@@muffinmcmuffin9849 I think it was Piratesoftwear that said "the studio isn't the company, the studio is it people in it..." or something like that. Looking forward to what they do
@JamyBot I don't think I have seen that particular short, but I'm familiar with Thor, and that does sound like something he would say.
THIS RIGHT HERE! This is exactly how I feel about this. Don’t get me wrong the first trailers looked pretty lit. Then we get this heaping dump of a dumpster fire that does not care about the fan base nor everyone’s childhood for that matter. It is so sad to see a generation so mad and getting disrespected like this
Maybe it's too much, but I honestly consider this game one of worst games ever. At least judging by the amount of negative emotions, which it coused for me
This game feels like a game made by bullies who knew the guy which they are bullying loves DC comic books, at least that's how it sounds like.
This game is trash
It’s definitely one of most insulting games ever.
No it's a fun game but if the deaths bother you then that's a personal preference.
@@everettjohnson9374 It is not that death bothers anyone, its the way it was executed. Especially with how the arkham batman has been built up over a decade. Gotham Knights was another game that had its problems, but it atleast respected its batman.
This game feels like a re-skinned Guardians of the Galaxy game 🤦🏽♂️🤣
I saw comments suggesting something that I think would've completely fix the story. Imagine that it would be Batman who'll help the squad instead of Wonder Woman. Imagine that instead of re-appearing publicly as pretty much the same Batman he would've kept his new mysterious appearance and methods that we witnessed in the end of Arkham Knight, and that his involvment with the justice league would be a secret. The brainwashing of his friends will be the thing that'll encourage him to "step out of the shadows" and help the squad defeating them.
Yes, very clearly a better option. Plus it would continue with character from where Arkham Knight left off, and satisfactorily answer what happened to Bruce after the Knightfall Protocol.
Yeah have him pick up the cowl one last time the only problem I can see is how he would feel about them killing the league
@@zombieguns3773 yeah, you're right. It is tricky. There was that scene where Wonder Woman caught Flash in the Lasso of truth and he said that the only way to stop the justice league is to kill them. That was a great scene.
So imagine that it would be Batman who'll catch Diana with her own lasso, and she'll say the same thing to Bruce. Maybe that'll convince him, like it convinced him to not save Ra's Al Ghul in that Arkham Knight DLC.
thank you for breaking down the whole thing. this is not a lack of knowledge on the writers part, it’s deliberately degrading and i’d even say evil to all the people who paid their bills and praised them for a decade. one thing you forgot to mention which is disgusting to me is the emphasis on how batman is carried. he is at the brink of death(inexplicably), and harley wants revenge for the way he carried her in arkham knight. fans joked about her ass, and it was funny because she wasn’t a bloodied barely alive zombie. the camera focuses on his ass and legs for a disturbing amount of time in two separate cutscenes, one with harley and one with shark carrying him. there is even a loading screen of harley trying to pick him up, clearly structured to make it look like her raping his corpse. the people responsible for this need serious professional mental help.
This game is gonna be The Last Of Us Part 2 for Arkhamverse fans because 4 years later The Last of Us fans have still not got over what Naughty Dog did with the Joel character and probably never will and now Rocksteady is about to go through the same thing for what they did to Batman, not saying any of this is right or wrong i love the Arkham Games but i still don't really care about any of this I'm just pointing out the similarities of this whole situation
It's Joel all over again
@@aaronbood1999 yep and I think it's gonna be worse because it's not just Batman but the entire Justice League so we're not gonna hear the end of this from upset fans for a very long time if ever
At least TLOU2 felt coherent as a whole package, this just feels like... crap put together in the worst possible way
The difference is, I doubt this game ends up winning GOTY.
@@dariusporter358 it will be discontinued before it reaches GOTY lol
They gave him the joel treatment from tlou2. He even says the typical "why dont we just get over this and get it done" dialogue that joel says.
I love watching videos that pick shit like this apart. The audience and paying customers deserve the utmost quality in storytelling as well as visuals.
And they gave us the most generic story ever like it was written by AI or something, like "suicide squad kill the justice league" really everyone in the studio saw the title and said "its a good name"
7:49 Batman DOES mention Jason telling the batfamily to try and recruit him if they can
They just made this game for money that's all it's not the rocksteady that made arkham games it's just an empty shell most of the staff who made arkham games left studio
They made arkham trilogy with passion and love but this pile of sh*t is just for money bringing batman back was only for marketing They just destroyed their legacy
As this not the rocksteady we knew they wanted to make a superman or batman beyond game but instead we did get this because some idiot thought suicide squad is more popular than batman
Shame on you WB shame on you rocksteady I hope the sales of this game teach you a lesson
It will with all the sneaking they did with the game to closed betas and ndas it definitely will
Yes, you are totally right, this just has corporate trash smell all over it
never caught the revolver dropping a shell casing 😂
That Batman speech at the museum is 3000% out of character. It's like the "writers" only used memes in order to write that abomination Keven Conroy was forced to vomit on our ears.
Agreed. Arkham Batman’s legacy was completely disrespected in this game. Regarding your point about Harley’s personality, in Arkham Asylum the character was still played by her original voice actress, Harleen Sorking, who worked on Harley just as she had in the animated series. Consequently, when the mantle was passed on to Tara Strong in the following games, the latter had to work to keep the character consistent within the established franchise. On the other hand, since this game focuses on the suicide squad, the developers decided to go with Harley’s live action version. Further proofs of this are Deadshot and Joker’s character designs which are meant to resemble Will Smith and Jared Leto respectively. Yet another reason why this game should not be considered canon.
You're right about Batman's speech. It feels like a caricature...
That’s all these characters are, there literally so blunt about themselves.
The only good thing is due to audience reaction, the canonicity is being officially considered and hopefully declared an alternate timeline similar to gotham knights. As well as the huge hints now that Arkham Batman is alive. Great video btw im a returning fan. Keep it up❤
It's nice to hear a young blood identify aspects of writing that *feel* bad or mediocre.
In time you'll get better at explaining those things. Good job on this vid, was useful to listen to.
The thing he says in the museum is just for PR, listen to the audio tapes. He doesn’t want to do them. I liked the game but yes it has major plotholes.
The batman fight, they just copied Scarecrow fight. Which...he didnt do anything but stand there and wave his hands, shoot lazer beams.
If could of been SO much better.
Actualy if they took away the pool of blood and gave us a batman fight like asylume scarecrow fights i would be way happier my only complains after that are him saying I am vengeance so much and harleys speech at the end. Im ok with the suicide squads jokes it is what they do and I'm ok with a send off on the bench but the way that sendoff was handled is the problem.
I'm convinced now rocksteady has been wrestling with WB and the higher ups since post arkham city. I could see how their influence made arkham knight a bit disappointing. No wonder the founders of rocksteady left. After years of sh*t they have to endure suicide squad was the final straw.
I really hate how they treat the heroes in this game, especially batman. I used to hope to see other heroes from the arkham universe, now I just want to erase my memory of them. My younger self would never believe this is what they do with the justice league.
Completely agree with all of this. Thank you! Also two more things. Brainiac says that he can bring TFX to their full potential…so does that mean he had the JL to their full potential and they still lost to TFX? That’s actually so stupid. Also Batman bat symbol isn’t the weak point in the boss fight. Smh🤦🏼♂️
Nothing can justify Harley defeating and ending Arkham Batman. ❤😊
Kinda ironic that a second rate shrink, puts a stop to man with mental trauma.
He deserved better, not going out like Lenny from of mice and men.
Hey I agreed with every single one of your takes. Bruce’s mannerisms and they say he spoke and presented himself were out of character. A possible video idea that may be interesting for you to make is a “Inconsistencies between the Arkham games and SSKTKL”. I do not believe this game is canon for a number of reasons, but a video like that can help illuminate all of the reasons why it doesn’t make sense for Suicide squad to be canon
100% right, from the start of this game being announced i didn't know where they were going with this and it only got worse as time progressed. They will need to do some crazy damage control for there to be any coming back from this