Panasonic Leica 9mm F1.7 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- It sure is itty bitty, but is it any good? We take the pint-sized Panasonic Leica 9mm F1.7 to the sunny streets of Calgary to see how this much-requested lens performs.
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Size and design
1:36 - Autofocus
2:01 - Close up performance
2:55 - Video performance
3:51 - Flare and sunstars
4:33 - Chromatic aberrations
4:51 - Sharpness
5:47 - Conclusion
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This is what M43 is all about, a great little lens with a 1.7 aperture weighing only 130 grams and a reasonable price.
That's a myth that you get smaller lenses on M43. You need to convert both the aperture and focal length for, say, full frame equivalent comparison. You cannot gather more light by changing the sensor size. You cannot cheat physics. Otherwise, we wouldn't have needed the giant telescopes of the world. We could have just changed their sensor sizes. Two lenses on any system, with equal capabilities (e.g. depth of field, bokeh, noise level, fov, ...) have the same amount of glass and weight.
@@nodavood the aperture of the glass is the same in light gathering, only the depth of field changes. The sensor's light gathering characteristics is treated separately from the lens.
@@CheapCharlieChronicles No it's not just look at the mathematics of the F-stop.
It's focal length/Aperture diameter = F Stop. So in order to have similar image quality with M43 you'd need faster glass. That said F1.7 is fantastic for an wide angle lens like this. It's more or less equal to the 12mm f2 rokinon on Fuji or Sony apsc.
And with that AF performance and build quality it's easily worth the premium. Comparing prices to equiv. lenses in fullframe is often ridiculous as those bodies tend to be much more expensive and in most cases heavier.
"This is what M43 is all about, a great little lens with a 1.7 aperture weighing only 130 grams and a reasonable price."
I second that, i would've bought it for my girlfriend if she hadn't moved to Fujifilm like myself.
This is indeed an lens that caters to M43 strengths. Just like the 45mm F1.8 oly and 20mm she used to have.
over $700 cash Cnd after taxes is NOT a reasonable price? Are you on drugs?
@@1barnet1 fancy doing a simple test at the same settings on mft, aps-c and full frame?
I've never ever seen the image get darker on smaller sensor. F stop is simply light transmission. Every single time I compare it, the amount of light transmitted to the sensor is identical (within the margin of error of cheap photo lenses, obviously, as opposed to T-stops being more objective)
I I did not have a looming deadline and parenting duties, I'd be happy to make a demonstration ;)
Depth of field, obviously, is a different matter, same as focal length.
Great to see Panasonic still designing for MFT.
I don't even own a MFT camera, I just watch these videos because the guys are so funny
Seems like this is the new must-have wide for MFT!
As you asked at the end, I really like you guys! And I mean it, so many people in photography youtube makes it seem like boring tech stuff, and you guys do the opposite, always making it seem so interesting, I'm a fuji guy so I dont even have a reason to watch a review about a MFT lens, yet here I am because your videos are always so fun to watch!
Same Feeing here! :) btw, Olympus Fan here!!
It's always great to see Chris and Jordan on camera, having fun and giving us helpful and informative reviews. Even if I'm not necessarily interested in the kit it's always nice to see you two.
This is what MFT was really missing. Hope I can get it soon
Hey, been watching you guys for a few years now. Really appreciate your reviews, very professional and still fun! Go Canada!
I always like your reviews! This 9mm f1.7 seems like a brilliant addition to the MFT lineup. I just hope Panasonic also keeps developing MFT enthusiast cameras.
Been watching you both since the camera store. Always look forward to watching your reviews as they are informative and fun. For me the reviews could be longer. More Chris and Jordan with camera stuff as the supporting cast.
Appreciate that you still review micro four thirds lenses.
I do like watching your videos. I always come back to see what new ways your are going to present things to us. I appreciate the effort in keeping things fresh. Just remember to be kind to Jordan, he makes Chris look good on video.
I do love this lens 😍 wonderful review as usual! 📸
@@Luke-bt4do ha amazing thank you! 😁🙏
I watched your review first. 😎
Your review was the first I watched
I really like you guys! I am nothing but a broke student that's really sad everything is now going high end, but I still watch your videos because you both are just fun to watch :)
I really like both of you Chris and Jordan!
Ohh, very nice combination of features. Great job on the video as usual!
How did I not realise the thing missing from your videos was a chase scene. More please!
with a sensor like OM1, the day where we need a Full Frame for low light is no longer far away.
with f1.7/1.8 primes like this, M43 would be a killer platform to shoot on for mostly everyone.
Let Full Frame handle the bokehheads because right now, I think M43 could serve at least 95% of photographers and videographers who cares more about composition and story than a blurred background.
This is an f/3.5 equivalent lens. Crop factor applies to aperture just as much as focal length. MFT is and will always be useless for low light shooting, because physics can't be cheated. Shrinking the sensor does not give smaller lenses magic powers. Fast glass does not exist for MFT, because fast in proper terms would mean f/0.7, which is f/1.4 full frame equivalent. No, this is not just bokeh, it's low light performance as well. Anyone who says the opposite has no clue what they're talking about.
@@youknowwho9247 You have no clue what you are talking about...
@@youknowwho9247 This is an f1.7 lens, stop saying nonsense you heard who knows where. If you mount the full frame Nikkor Z 50mm f1.8 lens on an APS-C camera like the Nikon Z50, the lens is still f1.8. You're suggesting that the Nikkor Z 35mm f1.8 on the Z50 would perform better than the Nikkor 35MM F/1.8 G DX, which is smaller and designed for APS-C cameras. AND THAT'S FALSE: the same amount of light would hit the APS-C sensor with both lenses.
What changes is just the depth of field, as the crop factor forces you to change the distance from the subject if you want to keep the same field of view. The low light performance is directly related to sensor size and technology (BSI, stacked, etc). The bigger the sensor, the bigger is the pixel (or photosite) and the more light it gathers. It's plain simple.
@@youknowwho9247 F/2.8 equivalent is probably ok for most folks, and you can achieve that by slapping a Sigma on. Shall we talk about computational photography now? There are smart phones out performing entry level APS-C's now days.
I'm not sure why M43 fans are always trying to prove that their system is more useful than full-frame? There's nothing inherently wrong with either system and both definitely have their place depending on style of photography. I'd be happy to own both!
Looks like an interesting lens. I have however the Laowa 7.5 F2 manual lens so not for me. Anyway I just want to say guys it is your personality and interactions that make all your videos worthwhile watching even if I'm not really interested in the product. Keep it up
Great review as always guys! I am interested in this lens, I am just waiting for it to become available in the UK to see the price here. I have been in a couple of situations recently where I was shooting with my GH6 and Olympus 12-40 and at 12mm it wasn't wide enough to get everything I wanted in the frame and I couldn't move the camera back any further to get everything in the shot. Also there have been times in the past were I was taking photos and videos of buildings with my GH5 and that wider FOV would have been very useful, especially the f/1.7 when shooting indoors with more confined spaces. I am also interested in astrophotography and this lens looks like it could be good for that too.
Ooh! An actual tiny mft lens. Heck yeah! Also a very nice focal length to fit the good standard and short Tele options.
Awesome video. Keep up the good. Can't wait for more
I like you guys so much that 1. I wake up on Sat AM and wait excitedly for 10am so I can see your video. And 2. I watch your vids even when I couldn’t give a 2 penny damn about the product. Like this 9mm lens. Lol. Sure it’s nice but not for me. Thx for all the videos. Yiu guys are really so fun and knowledgeable.
this lens is now on my list. Thanks !
As always a superb video / Ulf
This is the way I like a review, short and simple
Super like you guys. And this lens. Wow. Definitely on the list.
Thank you for an interesting and valuable review. I’m considering the Leica DG Summilux 9/1.7 ASPH for shooting night sky / light-painted nightscapes using the OM-1’s starry sky AF and live composite, and wanted a low coma, corner-to-corner sharp and fast lens.
My present workhorse for this is Leica’s Summilux 12/1.4 ASPH, but it sometimes isn’t quite wide enough.
Very nice. I might add a m/f system to my Nikon arsenal. Thanks for the video!
Nice video! This lens seems like a no-brainer. I have a GH5 which I bought years ago. I’ve shot a lot of interviews with several cameras over the past 15 years as a corporate video producer. Skin tone is critical in that work. IMHO the GH5 has peculiar issues with skin tone. I noticed here that Panasonic hasn’t quite resolved this with the GH6. I hoped the new VLog and the new sensor addressed that. Sort of the main reason I would upgrade.
BTW, You guys have been helpful to me for many years. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
I LOVED Jordan chasing you to get his GH6 back! LOL!
Great review and wished you'd used the G9 but, appreciate your review nonetheless! Love the lens used on the GH6~
Long overdue for the M43 ecosystem. I think this lens is going to sell like hotcakes
To the 6 people who still shoot MFT in 2022...
@@youknowwho9247 If nobody shoots MFT then why are you wasting your time watching and commenting on this video?
@@youknowwho9247 What are you here for exactly ?! Nothing else to do but bashing MFT ?! Or you want to convince yourself you are a better photographer with a full frame camera ?! Because.. you probably are not !
@@youknowwho9247 Practicing to be a bell-End? Mission accomplished.
@@vladimirkarphotography Spot on. I really don't understand the mentality of these people. Honestly I wish success for all systems - Full Frame, Medium Format, APS-C, MFT. The more success, the more choice for consumers to experiment with what works for them
You guys are great, my best buddies.
Good review. I just ordered one.
You know how to pronounce the letter 'Z', sometimes get Nikon correct, produce lively, info-packed videos with a good balance between humour and professionalism and, Chris and Jordan, you make a good team. Your channel is one of my go-to channels to learn about things photographic and you provide background views which are just a bit different to those of a neighbouring country. Keep up the good work!
Definitely getting this lens
All we need now is the new GX10 with mic jack and gh6 style flip screen for street photography and vlogging
I agree. And add PDAF to the list! And unlimited video recording. Oh, plus Vlog (full version).
I like both of a lot!
Great video as always! 2022 and MFT is still my main camera system.
Same here, I hope that Lumix will release a G9 Mark II
I wish that they made actual MFT rangefinder cameras and not just cameras that look like rangefinder. Also MFT TLRs.
@@Kolegu I have been thinking a lot about the G9 successor lately. I wouldn’t buy another Panasonic unless it has phase detect AF. I have a theory that the next S series of Panasonics will have PDAF and subsequently the GH and G lines etc (although I have also heard rumours that the GH6 may become PDAF through a firmware upgrade!). Panasonic execs have commented that PDAF sensors are more expensive. So my expectation is that the G9 successor will be relatively more expensive that the G9 and no longer such an amazing value proposition that the G9 is.
@@Democratiser unfortunately this waiting is not benefit for anyone. These days I was thinking very serious to switch to Z6II. For me, as a motorsport photographer, that camera will suit me better, but my concern is regarding the lenses, after the switch I need to replace all the lenses and it will be a pain for the pocket and for the back... 😅
@@Kolegu The z6 ii and even z6 look like great options, depending on what you need the camera for. For me I want to maintain a smaller camera option so I don’t baulk at carrying it around with me. I want to get to know the G9 better and see where the gaps are (other than AF). I have a 5D III for FF stills which is a better camera than I am photographer! But it stays at home too much because of its size and weight.
I'm so glad the price is more affordable than the 8-18 zoom which is just out of my budget. I got an SLR Magic 8mm F4 which is also a great vlogging lens but things that look okay in focus on the screen end up much softer in the foreground in actuality, unless you set it to infinity and hold it far back. AF at similar wide angle would be amazing.
Even better, I 'Leica' Chris and Jordan!
I forget how panasonic centric you are, but still it was a fun and entertaining episode!
Great work, guys! What a cool little lens. :)
great review, thanks!
A great review as always guys…👍
Being a MFT shooter, this lens really interests me, given Olympus doesn’t have any prime lenses at this width and aperture.
I’d love to have seen how it paired with the OM-1…!
Technically Olympus has the 8mm f/1.8, but it's a fisheye
I fear the purple fringing on Oly bodies
Nice review guys! I only wish the autofocus test could have been 2-3 minutes longer…
Hey guys. Thank you for all the great content! I'm wondering if you'll do a final review of the OM1? You've made a few videos about it already but I just noticed that you haven't named them the same as the videos of the Z9 and GH6. Of course, if you've already said all there is to say there's no need.
Have a great weekend!
Sweden
Nice review. Great lens
Thanks. Nice and likeable review.
When I mounted Lumix DG 25mm F1.4 Summilux on my Oly M5 Mark III, i found quite a lot of purple fringing which was fixed by a UV filter, but from what I have tested, this occurs ONLY if you combine Olympus sensor with Lumix lens. So using Lumix body for a review was a good choice IMO.
I don't like I love you guys! Been a long time fan!! 🤓📸
We Like you guys ..keep up the great work
The new 18mm f1.8 for the Lumix S is almost here! ❤️
This is what I need!!! But when? Can't find any info newer than last November
I have always liked you guys! 😂👍🏾🙏🏾
Now that is a pretty little thing. I would be lining up to pick one up if i still had an M43 camera.
Wish the future owners good light.
Good review, thanks. Would be great to see a head to head between this and the new Laowa 6mm zero D
You guys are awesome 😎
perfect lens/ perfect video.
I like you guys!
But I LOVE the looks of this lens. Gonna get it for the weather sealing which the Laowa 10/2 doesn't have.
Price is really nice as well. I'll have to add it to my primes 15mm, 25mm and 85mm.
You have an 85mm prime on Micro Four Thirds? I know there's a 42.5mm which is 85mm equivalent. But I'm not aware of any actual 85mm Micro Four Thirds lenses. Or did you adapt one from another system?
I'll absolutely buy this for my GM1
I like this video and I like you guys from here to the next video ;-) Cheers
Exciting New Lens. If you don't need a Ultra Wide Zoom, this is the one lens. Inexpensive too.
This will be the first lens I buy in years. Size, weight & price almost seem too good to be true!
3:43 how were you able to get smooth stepping when the lens doesn't have an aperture ring? The aperture dials on camera are stepped no? At least they are on my g9
Great reviev - thank you - but one more question:
Is it able to cover a total 90 degree horizontal angle of view ?
Example: The camera is positioned in an 45 half angle in a corner of a room , hall or cross gangway.
Do you see the left and the right wall ?
I call it the 90 degree challenge
I adore my Panasonic Leica15mm f1.7 - One of my favorite lens along with Nikon 70-200mm f2.8, so I have high hope for this lens. I'm debating whether or not to get this 9mm for I already have Laowa 7.5mm f2... which is freaking more expensive than this RED DOT branded/tagged 9mm.... Wondering how they would compare I.Q wise (I understand manual vs auto and don't care). Cracked me up when Chris was running away from Jordan....
Expensive? Try the Laowa 6MM T2.1
It is expensive, tiny and comes with its own hard case with th name of the lens in the protective foam. 😀
Thanks for a really nice review. Strongly considering one of these for myself. Anyone knows if it can take ordinary UV filters (i.e not ultra-slim) without vignetting?
I really like you guys!
Awesome lens. Long overdue. :)
Hey Chris, i’m a little stuck…have to chose between the 12mm f1.4 or a combination 9mm and 15mm f1.7. Do you ever had the chance to compare them…optical wise (i really understand, the focal lengths are different 😉)? Better two lenses or the faster one for the same budget…
I like you guys enough... j/k I think you both are great and even more so since you did a scene from a movie my company made a while back.
Which movie?
@@dpreview The Nice Guys
i love that lens! I love Jordan. Chris has an issue with sharing.
I have an issue with sharing!!!???
How were u able to get it so early? did they give it to you? Im trying to buy
A comparison between the Panasonic 9mm f1.7 and the Olympus 8mm f1.8 would be nice. I suppose that the "linear distortion" that they say the new Panasonic has, can come in handy on occasions when people appear, I sometimes use wide angles for portraits with architecture in the background, but on other occasions, I suppose that if you buy a super wide angle, a bit of extreme distortion is what you want, so.... I don't know which one to choose 😅
C&J, we like you 3000x of a Noct. Also this lens seems to be a good replacement for my 9-18 Oly, since I use that little guy in ultra-wide anyway, most of the time :)
Very interesting lens I think it could be a perfect lens for g100 to have a compact and good combination for vlogging.
Wonderful review on this lens! I just picked one up, and notice that I hear the autofocus pretty audibly when I half press on the shutter. Do you notice this on yours? Or should I be concerned that this is a defect on mine?
Oh oh. Please tell us it is just a bad copy.
We do like you 😀
This is an interesting lens.
I already have the Oly 7-14/2.8, would the 9/1.7 still be worth getting?
Perfect for concerts and other performances.
hello, I have a pen-f with 30mm sigma and 42.5 nocticron and I need a compact lens that is hard to detach from my camera like the leica 9mm 1.7 or the leica 15mm 1.7 or the 20mm? I hope but not I think the 9mm has the same softness and leica look ... anyway I am interested in the color rendering ... advice?
I'm using Panasonic LUMIX G7 as a webcam and was looking for a better suited lense. My 14mm lense is still a bit too close up/zoomed in on me for my liking, based on the distance/position the camera has to be placed, within the boundaries of my set up and desk space. I take it this 9mm lense would be ideal and 'push me back' further?
I like you guys very much!
Yah! We love yah!
Looks a great lens which could replace my 8-18. More to the point, what's that bag you were carrying? And will it take a G9 with a couple of primes, including that 9mm?
...and tell us how much you Leicas. I do love you guys. Love from Germany.
I would love to see a Panasonic 9mm vs Laowa 7.5 comparison...
Thanks, guys, interesting lens . . . wish you had compared it to other Oly and Pano wide primes or wide zooms in picture quality and uses, (e.g. Oly 12mm F2 etc.)
Now I need a compact MFT camera to use this lens. OM1 and GH6 are great but where is new G9 and G7?
would be cool to see a 9 or 12mm Leica with Power O.I.S. Coupled with internal IBIS from a gh5/gh6 and the wide lens + IS, it might make a gimbal obsolete for the given setup. Not sure why they don't do this. I understand wide lenses are inherently more stable, but there is still jitter and shake present.
I like youuuuuuu.. I saw you ages ago for the first time on Creative Live, you were one of the "students" back then. It was you, right????
The Goats!
非常喜欢胡子哥和乔丹，几乎每期都看。
hey chris can you review the canon rebel t7
I like you guys!
good review, but i'm undecided whether to pay for this leica 9mm or the laowa 7.5, for my lumix G9.
Any sign of the 18mm L Mount?
The lumix S 18mm 1.8 was announced by Lumix, but they release the m43 equivalent first. Anyway great job Pana, that's the MFT spirit... The heavy 1.7 zooms are prety stupid imo, since they weight the same as their ff equivalent.