PANASONIC LEICA 9mm F1.7 Review - Almost Perfect Ultra-Wide Prime
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- I recently bought the Panasonic 9mm F1.7, and I have been shooting a lot of with it lately. I also use it as my main vlogging lens for my second channel. I share my thoughts on this lens in this video.
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0:00 Intro
0:25 Disclaimers
1:04 Why This Lens?
2:00 Image Samples Reel 1
2:27 First Compact UWA Prime
3:07 Design & Build
4:26 Weather-Sealed
4:42 Image Samples Reel 2
5:09 Lens Sharpness
6:14 Distortion
6:43 Flare
7:14 Starburst Effect
7:31 Bokeh
7:56 Image Samples Reel 3
8:23 Autofocus
8:42 Close Up
9:13 Chromatic Aberration
10:29 Conclusions/END
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Before more people asked how come this review was done with E-M1 Mark III which I have given away, it took me a few weeks to shoot at various locations, collecting enough good photographs (not just meagre, ordinary looking shots), made a few vlogs on my second channel and shooting a few paid jobs with the lens (though not many shots, as I do events) before I can make my conclusions and do this video. I just got the OM-1 last week.
And yes I do my videos and schedule them up in advance. I actually do have many, many other things happening in my life like shooting for jobs, in contrary to what some would erroneously assume that I do TH-cam full time.
Hi Robin, thanks for another interesting video. Can you please share a link to your blog channel , I have searched Utube but it comes up with other people.
The argument between metal verses plastic. You nailed it on the head.
Thanks Allan. I am sick and tired of people minimizing the importance of using plastic. It is not as bad as what people think.
I love the energy of this guy
Agree with your comments completely Robin. This lens has become my favourite very quickly. I call it my "museum lens" ideal for indoor shooting. Enjoy your new lens!
Thanks, wow, museum lens, that is a cool name.
That's how i imagine to use it, it must be awesome
Robin Wong . .
You take remarkably superb photographs. I am impressed with your work.
Thanks for the video review of this 9mm lens. Your videos are always great!
This Panasonic Lens takes beautiful pictures. Thank for sharing this video Robin.
Thank you, loved the photos & thanks for the members invite :)
Thank you for always creating awesome and informative videos 😁👍🏻
I absolutely love, love, love this lens!
Thank you for sharing this video, I usually come here when I'm looking for new gear to purchase.
Keep up the good work :)
Greetings from Italy
Excellent, this just might be the lens I’ve been looking for, weather sealing is a massive plus for me
Thank you for your excellent review. I think many people will buy this lens because of your review.
Thanks Thomas. It is a great lens!
I totally agree with your comments about plastic vs. metal lens bodies; I have never heard of plastic lens housings breaking.
Thanks Gavin, appreciate that. I come from engineering background, and in construction we use a lot of plastic material too. I see no issues in terms of strength, as long as we design it right.
Super pictures Robin ! Super video too !
I really appreciate your videos!
perfect video Robin. As usual from you. The lens is awesome. My cousin bought this for his Lumix G9 and he is in love with that. I can assure you. As for myself, well, i am a 50mm guy. But for those who love the ultra wide angle aesthetics, this lens is a marvell!
Thanks Andreas, yeah if you have a need for ultra wide, this lens should be in your consideration.
It is great to have a new lens on the market in the true spirit of m43 🙂
Thanks Michael, indeed, compact, light and sharp!
Thanks for the excellent review Robin. This is the lens I've wished for to M43 from day one, and as some state with Panasonic bodies the CA issue is corrected it checks all the boxes for me.
BTW, having used Panasonic lenses on OM-D and G sires bodies and vice versa, I've noticed the CA issue using Olympus lenses on Panasonic and also some CA when using Panasonic lenses on Olympus bodies.
Thanks Robin. Wow the close up range is amazing! Waiting patiently for this lens to arrive in Canada.
Hey Marlene. I was in the same boat and got tired of waiting. I ordered mine from B+H and had it in less than a week. With the US$ conversion to $Cdn i ended up paying almost the same as if ordered in Canada. Hope you get yours soon! Cheers.
Thanks, and yes the lens can go real close
Thank you for the great review. I will finally buy the 9mm at the beginning of January 2024 and am excited to see how it performs with the Lumix GX80, G81 and G9 Mark I.
I find anything under 24mm very hard to compose images.
But as a specialty lens it has its place. Great video mate.
I want this lens for months ! thanks !
Yeah seems like there is shortage everywhere
This has became a permanent fixture on one of my cameras. The other one mostly has a Zuiko 25mm f/1.8. I shoot live music in quite small venues, so I am often really close to the bands and this gives a great perspective, or I can get most of the stage in with the whole band. And, of course, the wide aperture is essential. The close focussing is great when I'm shooting fungi, especially big ones, where can get in really close and shoot the whole of the undersides from the ground upwards. OM System and Olympus missed a trick not bringing out a similar lens. The 8mm f/1.8 is almost twice the price and fisheye, even if it can be corrected.
Yeah and the 8mm fisheye cannot take filters. After defishing you do lose some resolution due to crop and the edges with pixel stretching, the images won't be as good as the 9mm.
I picked up one of these a couple months ago and it's been worth every penny. I like pairing it with my GX8 - I've found the tilt evf really comes in handy for the types of UW shots that i like to take
I am considering buying this one for my gx8 as well. How was your experience during the last months?
I probably will buy this lens and resell my Oly 8-25mm. Couldn't find a way to improve my style with the latter. This Pany is a fast lightweight and fits into my travel photography (where I always have big telezooms for wildlife with me)
Great review! This with the 42.5mm leica and 15mm leica is a great trio!
Indeed
Nice and fast and wide. That would go great alongside the trusty old 20mm pancake in my travel kit.
My jaw hit the floor when you stated it was weather sealed. YES! I've never quite got on with my Olympus 7-14 2.8 (mainly because of the lack of a thread on the front and that wildly protruding front element). I now have the excuse to sell that and buy this.
Yeah and this is F1.7, and so so compact!
Thanks Robin.
Cheers, glad I can share
Hi I have this lens for 3 days now and no purple fringing in high contrast with em5 III, I not tested on my em1 III and om1 yet but no issue, is very clean !
Was looking for a good wide angle lens for my G7. Will be buying one now since its super sharp and looks fantastic and doesnt break the bank. Cheers!
Dear Robin, What is Wrong with You?!! You are soo damn great and your pics of landscape are beautiful.. i’ve been to that places..never i thought to look at like the way you view. Absolutely stunning.. congrats and keep it going!! Owh i now own GH5ii converted from Sony ZVE10, ZV1, AX43..
Thank you for the honest video Robin. I really wanted to like this lens but I confess to feeling a little underwhelmed by the sharpness compared to the 8-18 zoom I used to own 😐👍🙏🏼
Hello Robin. Believe it or not, now I have two olympus bodies and 12 olympus and panasonic lenses because of you and Red35. Someday if I go to Malaysia, I will buy you a cup of coffee. Ciao!!
Hi Robin, thanks alot for this review! I have been shooting with a GH1 for years and finally bought the GH6 as the successor. We only had the Lumix 14-140, which is very old and slow now and I need a lens for lower light situations..
I have been thinking about getting the Leica 12-60 as an allrounder and then this one for low light and wide shots.. Is that a good combination in your opinion?
Robin -- I understand that most editing software should be able to use the info recorded by the lens/camera with the image to correct for distortion -- in this case make the results very "rectilinear" for a wide lens. But how does it look "on" camera -- through the viewfinder/on the screen? Does the camera (your EM1 MKIII) provide any correction while shooting/composing? Or are you seeing the (barrel) distortion? Thank you for the review!!!
Hey Robin. Great video again. Since you seem to have experience with almost all mft lenses, could you please tell if Leica 25mm 1.4 mark ii weather sealing will be supported on Oly em1 m2? I am choosing between this and 25mm 1.2pro. Money is not so much of an issue. I just just prefer a smaller size, but sharpness and durability is a priority for me. There is a rumour that leice rubber ring does not match Oly. Thanks!
This must be great night cityscape lens.
Looks like a good lens bar the purple fringing. Weather sealed is a big plus on this small lightweight lens now we just need OM solutions to come up with a similar focal length. Small weather sealed and it would be great.
8mm pro 1.8 would be closest, body has inbuilt realtime defish for this lens
Watch out for weather seal of panasonic lenses. Sealing rubber ring goes slightly over screws of the lens mount on camera. But it seems to work if your camera is fine 😅
just found your channel and enjoy your videos --though i do wish you would include at least one dedicated segment for video samples, instead of various image samples! great work either way
Thank you for doing this review, Robin. When you can test it out on your new OM-1, please.
Why is there a need to test it on the OM-1? Was my review on the E-M1 Mark III not good enough?
I will DO THIS! I mean: this comment 😇 Beside 7-14mm , now I got this Leica 9mm. And I’m very happy it and it works fine Omd 5 mark III. All what you said is true. And I agree with you 👍
Maybe you can do also a review of a laowa 7.5 mm f2 for example. I was thinking buying it too.
Oh by the way, my zuiko 9-18 is broken 😢.. can’t be repaired, so that was alos a main reason I bought a Leica 9mm.
Thanks
Hi Robin!! Would you recomend I upgrade from the Olympus 9-18mm?
Robin did you compare this lens with the olympus 8-25mm F4 PRO? Lately Im getting a bit dissapointed with the output from 8-25... thank you! :)
Hi there, I'm looking for a new lens (milkyway photos etc.). Would you take the Leica 9mm F1.7 or the sigma 16mm F1.4?
Hi Robin, which would you prefer, this or the 8-25mm F4 ?
Hi robin thnx for vedio. for vedioshoting give advice betwen olympus 12mm and leica 9mm.thnx lot
Robin, you forgot to mention the Olympus 9-18 f/4-5.6, which is as wide as this lens and really compact! But yes, they belong to different worlds!
Anyways, great video and amazing shots, as always!
The Olympus 9-18mm is an excellent lens, and yes it is also compact, but it also starts at F4. Optically, the Panasonic 9mm is better
@@robinwong just answered my question 😂👍👍
Thanks Robin
This looks like my dream lens… I have a sigma fp and wonder if the lumix 18mm 1.8 even has the same character 😮. It might be cheaper just to get a gm1 and this.
How does this compare with olympus 12mm f2.0 ? I am really leaning towards the oly 12mm.
This might finally replace my trusty pancake 14mm f2.5
Hi Robin, What do you prefer ???? Panasonic Leica 9mm F1.7 or Panasonic Leica 15mm F1.7 ????
Hi Robin, another great video. I thought you had given your em-1 mkiii away?
Obviously it takes me weeks to produce a review like this. It was done before I gave the E-M1 Mark III away.
This is perfect for my Lumix GX85.
Robin, is thiis still your main vlog lens currently?
Does MFT still get supported well in Malaysia for warranty and support?
Thanks a lot for your effort and this great video Robin.
As a professional photographer: what would you do - I'm struggling between the laowa 6mm or 7.5mm or even this 9mm panaleica.
The AF is a great benefit and the 9mm is faster. But what about the field of view? The 7.5 and especially the 6mm offer so much more field of view.
I'm going to use the lens on my panasonic g9 for stills and video. Mostly nature, street and cars. Sometimes in low light situations.
How would you decide? Field of view over AF and faster aperture? And is the lack of AF really a problem in real life?
I've got the Laowa 7.5 and I think I'd go for the Panasonic unless you the wider look. personally 18mm equivalent is the sweet spot for me, and with the Panasonic you get the built-in corrections
I was waiting for this review😀! You mention a 2nd channel, but I didn't see a link. How can we find it?
That video I talked about why I bought 9mm was in the second channel. There is only one link shared, that goes to the second channel.
I recently got the 15mm for around $230 like new. So it was a good deal but still really wish ive seen this lens first
Is it 100% compatible with OM System and your computer photography?
OM and Pany use different cut off points on the filter over the lens. OM puts a filter in the lens coating. When I used the 15 which did the same thing, I got a UV2A filter which corrected this. Most UV filters are UVA. Thte atricle that explained tihs and gave the wave lengths or frequencies is no longer available. Hard to find good UV2@A filters so I got film and put it on the back on the lens. My G9 never had fringing while my EM1 mk3 would have it. If you use a Olympus lens and a Panasonice lens to take the the same phoot with an OM camera, you will notice the Oly lens is slightly coooler than the Pany because of the lens UV coating differences.
That is a interesting tidbit of info! Thanks for sharing. I have been at it with Lumix bodies and lenses, but am pondering swapping out the bodies with Oly ones. The Lumix/P-L lenses are more to my liking than the Oly ones, and I have a rather large collection of them, so this may be very valuable to keep at it with Lumix/P-Ls.
I have tested Panasonic 8-18mm, 12-60mm and 12mm F1.4 on Panasonic GH4 and G9. Same purple fringing issue, and also some purple haze with the 12mm shooting wide open. I don't think this has anything to do with filters, there is something wrong with the lens optical design.
I have not tested the 9mm on any Panasonic bodies so I cannot confirm this. I can say that the general understanding of Panasonic lenses having less purple fringing on Panasonic bodies, well, based on my own tests, not so true!
@@robinwong i think this has by now become more of an urban legend as people still refer to the older threads on forums when Olympus processors (I think up until the E-M5) were not compensating for fringing. Yet, I’m curious to try with a stronger filter as suggested above.
I'll stay with my Lumix G Vario 7-14mm f/4 ASPH. Lens
I can't decide between the lumix 9mm f1.7 and the Laowa 6mm f2. If you could pick one, which one would it be?
BOTH! 😂
did u prefer this or laowa 6mm?
I recommend testing it on a Panasonic camera. I have the same issues with my 15mm Panaleica on the OM-1, while I never had purple fringing with the G9.
I have tested 12mm F1.4, 8-18mm and 12-60mm on Panasonic G9 and GH4, trust me there is purple fringing and the 12mm has some weird purple haze that covers the whole screen.
I have not tested the 9mm on Panasonic bodies, hence I asked if anyone has.
I'm using a Panasonic LUMIX G7 as a webcam in my home office and was looking for a better suited lense. My 14mm lense is still a bit too close up/zoomed in on me for my liking, based on the distance/position the camera has to be placed, within the boundaries of my set up and desk space. I take it this 9mm lense would be ideal and 'push me back' further? Forvige my ignorance, as I'm a noob for this stuff but I assume this has no zoom capabilities and is fixed?
I have a G7 and the same 14mm. Panasonic DMW-GWC1 added to the 14mm will make it perfect for you.
Panasonic lenses are 'known' to give purple blobs on Olympus bodies. I have had the same problem with my Panasonic 7-14 on my Olympus E-M1. It is the reason that I went out and bought a Panasonic GH body. No more blobs !!!.
yes. it must be an agreement between the 2 so as to not cannibalise sales.
Which do you prefer for a architecture or astrophotografy laowa 6mm f2 or panaleica 9mm f1.7?
I do neither architecture nor astrophotography.
If you need something as wide as possible, go for 6mm.
I use the 9mm for vlogging mostly, and I don't shoot that wide for most of my needs. so the 9mm is more suitable for me.
Hi, Robin. Great review. How do the lens perform in low light? Do you think this lens is suitable for astrophotography?
Low light performance has nothing to do with the lens. If it can shoot good images in good light, it can do the same in low light. The optical design stays the same regardless of lighting.
@@robinwong I think he asking about aberrations that you see on pin points of light. you dont see these during the day. Common complaints are astigmatism and coma.
Like the awful samyang lenses, this lens has different aberrations in each corner. sometimes combined. Chasing the unicorn perfect lens has sent me mad, and if you only display your art on facebook, energy is better spent elsewhere.
Stopping down. Ive tried it but as I dont have a tracking celestial mount its not feasible. it took a lot of stopping down to improve, above f3.2.
TLDR Buy it because it is light and has a filter thread.
Do you think that you can do a comparison review of 40-150 2.8 vs 4? also the macro 60 vs 90 please.
No comparisons. There will be bloodshed and it is not worth my time. People just want to hear what they want to hear and use these comparisons to validate and justify their purchase decisions. When I do something that disagrees with them, they come and bash my skull open. I have better things to do.
@@robinwong I understand your point. It is just too difficult to find reviews that are performed right by people who haven't paid to say nice things. I really like your macro vids. Keep up the good work.
@@robinwongI’m with you on this, pal😅
@Fan_Boy: Hi! My way of gear acquisition is: What I really need for my photography? Do I need the 2.8? Do I encounter often situations where the macro 60 limits me? Do I need light weight gear for travel? etc
@@joerghummerjohann4854 good point
About the lens... it's a pity they didn't come out with it 5 or 6 years ago.
I bought the 8mm f1.8 Pro years ago. It's a fisheye, I know, but with the live defishify option on OM-D cameras, I find that lens more versatile than the Panny 9mm. Though it shares a similar fast aperture and insane close focusing, it also has weather-sealed and a better build.
But it cannot take filters. And after all that defishing, you don't get as much resolution as 9mm rectilinear.
I have the M.Zuiko 8mm f1.8 semi fisheye prime, which can be easily defished in camera. However, I love its barrel distortion, and the extreme effects it creates used normally. It has a bulletproof metal construction. I bought it for around £450, or, say, $550 as a replacement for the wonderful manual Samyang 7.5 f3.5 mainly for the larger aperture and AF. Its biggest problem is the slightly vulnerable, bulging front optic which the Leica doesn't have.. I notice that the latter is being sold for a similar price but brand new.
The Olympus Fisheye is larger and definitely much heavier, with no option to attach filters directly. If I want to buy the Olympus fisheye I would use it as a fisheye lens, I would not bother correcting it. By "de-fishing" you lose a lot of resolution by cropping into the center and the pixel stretching at the edges also causes more pixel degradation.
@@robinwong Agreed!
Robin, what did you think of this lens versus the Laowa wide-angle?
They are both different lenses. Laowa is 6mm, which is so much wider than 9mm. If you need as wide as possible, then 6mm is a must have, but also if you don't need that wide of a lens, it can be troublesome to use as it fits everything, and in this case 9mm is easier to handle. And 9mm has AF.
Both lenses are made for very different uses.
Unless you are referring to other Laowa lenses than the 6mm, I cannot comment because I never used them.
I guess on a Panasonic camera the purple fringing will be corrected...
I won't be so sure. Let's see if people actually test it first.
whats your color preset sir Robin?
What color preset? I don't understand.
Have you tried shooting Astro with this lens?
yes. it is ok, no better for aberrations than a samyang. slightly lower astigmatism.
buy it because it is light (to be constantly carrying), front filter thread and starry sky AF works well.
What nice is the very minimum distance and quick focus, for the marketing better not speaking FF, equivalent it is a 18mm f3.4 if I am not wrong. For who has both system samyang 18mm f2.8 12.900 Bath or this Panasonic 18.991 Baht.
F1.7 is F1.7, there is nothing wrong with that, as it describes the light gathering ability (aperture, opening of the lens, there is a formula). What you are referring to is depth of field (I am assuming) and that is a completely different thing.
Whether you like it or not, full frame is the reference, and for field of view, 9mm in micro four thirds is 18mm in full frame.
7:50 - the bokeh isn't hexagon. It's heptagon. Good video by the way.
But Robin, weren't you supposed to give away your EM1 mark III? :p
I guess this review was done before the official giveaway.
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its very difficult to make manuel focus at night. Terrible.... It doesnt work (-) degree conditions.... you cannot take snowy night scene
the fringe is horrible
yeah. gentlemens agreement between manufacturers so as to not cannibalise sales.
Another review so that we can"t get one 🙂
Your review could convince me not to buy this lens.
I was thinking of getting the 9mm but decided to get the Panasonic Leica 8mm-18mm which has less fringing.