I like the deep dive into her character as nobody has done so before. I don't really like the explanation that she actually "lost the will to live" as it makes her seem weaker than she really was and despite losing Anakin and her handmaids I think she would've fought to stay alive for her children. The much better explanation, which I thought was cannon at one point, maybe isn't anymore was that Darth Sidious sucked her life essence from her body through the force in order to keep Anakin alive during transportation to Coruscant and his reconstruction into Vader. The same techniques he had spoken to Anakin about, using the Force to keep someone alive. His master Plagious and many other Sith in the Old Republic had achieved such feats of relative immortality or miraculous rapid healing in battle via the Force, but it was not free, they used the Force to extract life from some other living creatures in order to repair themselves. Sidious was able to locate Padme through the Force easily because of the bond between her and Anakin and because Anakin was thinking of her the entire time he was being operated on. She did not realize her life was being stolen, and none of the droids or Obi-wan or Yoda could pinpoint what was occurring because the Dark Side had pervaded throughout the Galaxy following Order 66 and suppressed the Jedi's prescience through the Light Side. So to them she just seemed to "lose the will to live" and in a sick way....Sidious was not wrong when he told Vader "you killed her" though it was not Anakin or Vader's actions but rather his very survival through Sidious' Dark Side magic that led Padme dying
They definitely downplayed how powerful Sidious is/was. His true force abilities would not make for an entertaining movie. Who could challenge him? I think I remember reading he has the ability to summon a wormhole to collapse a planet. Plus his force choke can be used worlds apart. Direct Line of sight is not necessary. If I'm honest. The more I read about Sidious the more of a mystery he becomes. I know the darkside corrupts your purpose but I'm not sure what he really wanted. Live forever, rule the galaxy, tame the force, stop corruption, explore wild space. But depending on what age, and novel or movie he seems to be competing with himself. Am I lost?
This is extremely interesting. I really haven’t seen anyone discuss her life or death from this perspective. It does make sense though, that she may not know how to handle situations and emotions on her own. I do feel like Bail Organa counts more as a friend than a boss, but I agree he wasn’t really someone Padme probably felt she could confide in like her handmaidens or Anakin. Good luck with your channel :)
@uwuifyingransomware Thanks for the feedback. Bail and even Mon Mothma are more like work buddies in my opinion. Let me know of any other topics that might interest you.
Interesting! One thing that always bothered me is that Padmes death while giving birth never tied in with what Leia says in Return of the Jedi "She died when I was very young". This couldn´t have been Bea Organa since it neither matches the time line nor the fact that Luke specifically asks about her "real" mother. An alternative (darker) ending would be the empire/Vader chasing down Padme, forcing her to send Leia away (to the Organas).
Padme death does bother me too. I know most just agree that Sidious killed her. He probably did but Padme was too important and influential in her own right to have speculation about her death. Ya comment also made me think... a TV sitcom with Vader Luke and Leia. The possibilities lol.
Its interesting to hear these alternate theories. I still lean towards the "sidious did it". Free from jedi observation and having defeated yoda himself, Sidious could finally assassinate her with long range sith abilities instead of hiring people who failed. Anakin in his wounded state wouldn't notice, and padmé had to be removed to give the empire time to settle in without her leading the senate against him. Also if there was one person who could crack the shell of dark side that anakin was burying himself in, it was padmé, and without her the potential futures where vader successfully turned on the emperor were much lower. Besides if she dies before giving birth, he gets rid of two potential future problems with her. The problem with that plan, was she had two babies sharing their life force with her, and they were strong in the force. But then, they were surgically removed, and without their help, padmé finally died from sidious's dark arts.
True Sidious probably did have a hand inn killing her off. His plans are too thought out to leave her alive. I like the part about Luke and Leia giving protection to Padme. I just don't like the way her death was left open-ended. I will be working on another Padme death theory video at some point. Can I incorporate what you have mentioned?
The way Todd incorporates his last answer, in fact does resemble a lot, with or without Sidious hand (if we consider sidious hand we also must consider the Jedi lack of lack - and lack of action is itself an action), with the broken heart death syndrome.
It's possible to die of love - of a "broken heart", it's very well documented (I believe this fact was likely discovered by japanese scientists or they were the first to deeply study the phenomenon using primarily deliberative thinking and, more than that, a real science approach). But it's always connected or correlated to the loss of a partner in a strict sense, not even a death of a son or daughter would move such a rare happening. So in my humble opinion, and following the hypotheses and variables we can relate to Padmé's death, I humbly am not able to believe it was because of a loss of part of her self (was really a part of her self of a convenient and very needed helpful but ego "estranged" person? More or less dependent and also with particular situations concurring for the need of it, we are social creatures that rarely can live alone - at least we're unable to grow, including as babies not only because of food, but also human skin touch without with we would die during our first months of life) as supported by the video, as, as much important her "imposed" friend - Padmé did not chose her, so we even have more moral dilemmas here than the ones openly mentioned - was or meant to Padmé, she, accordingly to current in here (read planet Earth) the broken heart death could not have happened because of her relation/projection of a future broken relation between Padmé and her surrogate (clearly is asserted Padmé needed all for her psychological well being, but the opposite, as the "defenders" had in fact more restrictions in a way and less liberty to be their own egos in the relationship with Padmé - meaning, most likely they needed her much more than Padmé needed them, again as asserted in the video and justified how Padmé split personality exists or her ego was not properly developed, I would not claim it as completely untrue, but also thus mean the "collective" had no ego at all considering one by one or only, which is very disturbing, shared a "collective ego" or a unique personality that would shatter without even one of them) and thus I deeply disagree, based on our current knowledge, that the presented reason was the cause for Padmé's death, which, in my pov is complex as the video tell us, multifaceted, with many variables, including people like herself, Anakin/Vader, Sidious, the Jedi and their code at the time and how it made the presence of Kenobi and Yoda estranged and beyond understanding for both parts (Luke's EU Jedi Academy deals perfectly with this "attachment" issues years later) but not dependent of a relationship of "dependencies" (it seems none of them grew up to build a proper and inner personality, with which i also disagree); blame can't be set on the age and lack of maturity of both Padmé and Anakin, as many royal and noble houses during centuries were married sometimes even before they reached their teen ages and that was not per si the reason they did not turn out normal people, as in fact history tell us most turned out quite good or even ok, being the worst case scenario the results of inbreeding (genetic proximity that may cause disorders or worst like malformations), like the "decease of the kings": hemophilia. Apart that, I see no logical reason for Padmé death being correlated to broken heart syndrome if not because of the lost in terrible circumstances of her true love and partner Anakin and not (never ever mentioned in any literature related to broken heart death syndrome, to my knowledge at least) because of what if (what would happen latter between Padmé and Sabé, mostly when their destiny if projected by the narrator and never happened in the movie as Padmé dies before and because she was afraid to lose a friend? A dear friend of course, but as said imposed and not chosen and there are no split personalities but two mature egos - realizing that no ego anywhere and of anyone if perfect, thus not being the cause for a broken heart death syndrome... for a friend - Sorry, but this theory is very poorly grounded in scientific terms and does not stick with me. Still, great mental exercise done. But as all hypotheses it can only be confirmed or, in my opinion in the case here, infirmed) that would happen between friends and not loved ones (and note that I on purpose distinguish friendship "love" from a more inconditional type of love, lacking better term). Cheers. Nice video, good mental exercise, conclusions could have been reached better. ;)
You are right; I did not dig too deep into the science. I tried to keep it somewhat entertaining. I did use some of my college intro psychology course lol. I am glad you enjoyed my vid and was able to get something from it. You stated your case well and I will always respect that. It's kind of a dream of mine to attend or create a class that teaches psychology & sociology but from a Star wars position. A true breakdown of each character and the group. What do you think?
@@starwarsdistrict well I think it's great. I'm a sociology researcher (PhD) and I'm finishing my master in Psychology, as I want to get the heck out of Academia as a full time researcher and invited assistant professor, the environment is absolutely toxic. Clinical Practice will do me well, and I already have an invitation from a friend psychiatrist (who also have been giving me a lot of formation besides the college official one) to go work with him and likely also in a private hospital too. Cheers.
@Maddog-xc2zv I know first hand education is rough. I had some great teachers, and they would vent their issues, and I'm shocked at how some schools restrict and limit them. I wish you the best in ya career choice. If you ever start your own course. I would love ❤️ to attend a Starwars Psychology and Sociology course. Sign me up lol.
@@starwarsdistrict Maybe you should give a try on making your own course, Psycho-Sociology of STU characters and interactions. You have all the inner will, emotional and practical intelligence, followers and knowledge can be built up as the course moves further - maybe it even makes revisit character and social interactions again to complement them with the new surplus knowledge ;) I do mean it, you should try, as you're also entertaining as yourself said your stance was more about in the approach on this particular video. Give it a chance, I'd say you'd do "perfectly" (there's no such thing as perfection, only reason for the comas) well. Cheers!
Liked and commented upon. In summary, Padme had needs and those needs involved needing Keira Knightley as a girlfriend. I can see that being Padme's little secret. Hey, I started relating to Vader simply because if I was married to Natalie Portman and she died three years in, I'd be taking that out on everyone as well.
True; that is the official answer but it does not sit right with me. A broken heart; when she literally just gave birth to twins and a bit of back ground knowledge; her family would have embraced Padme and her kids so much. From her family aspect alone; her "broken heart" death seems limited.
@ it shouldn’t sit right with you because it is stupid and bad writing. In 'Return of the Jedi' there is a scene where Luke asks Leia, "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?" Leia replies, "A little bit, she died when I was very you." Luke responds, "What do you remember?" Leia says, "Just images really… Feelings" Luke says, "Tell Me." Leia continues, "She was beautiful, kind but sad. Why are you asking me?" And that is the question, why is Luke asking about Bail Organa's wife? He isn’t he is asking about his mother. Ignoring the prequels and the stupidity of "she died of a broken heart" Luke and Leia's mother didn’t die during child birth. Their mother hid on Alderaan pretending to be senator Organa's wife with her daughter until she died a few years later. If Bail Organa’s wife was handed a child why would she be sad and wouldn’t Luke be smart enough to know that his mother died in childbirth and not ask Leia about the woman that adopted her who wouldn’t be sad to have a child that she could not have had otherwise. Why would Luke ask Leia a question that would only have brought up pain and bad feelings for Leia? What should have happened is that they used the last of Padme's handmaiden's as a decoy to fool the Emperor and Anakin into thinking that Padme had died rather then having her actually die and if you want a mystery that’s the mystery you should explore. Did Padme actually die?
@brianrussell463 I like your point. I have to think on this one too. Off the top of my head... Anakin and definitely Palpatine should be able to sense the differences between the handmaiden and Padme. In the Padme trilogy novel... One of her handmaiden was used as a decoy and Anakin angrily knew the difference very quickly
@ there could be a bunch of reason why the fake death of Padme would work. Off the top of my head, Darth Vader did some very stupid things, like actually accepting that Padme died just based on Palpatine's word, and not checking his home planet for a number of reason like looking for Obiwan in the place were they met or to end the slavery that was going on there since before his childhood or even to find the droid that he built. So faking her death and having her live as the King of Alderon (not a senator's) wife maker her a queen and her daughter a princess. Leaving the scene in Return of the Jedi have actually meaning rather then pointless and a waste of Luke's time. And Luke would have done research to see if Bail Organa was married before he and, by extension, his sister's birth and he would then know that Leia's real mother was dead and have no need to ask those questions in Return of the Jedi. But maybe Luke is just as stupid as his father and the never did the research and he made a stupid assumption about Leia’s real mother.
Yoda did not killed padme I thought what killed her was seeing what happened to Anakin and losing Anakin I think a lot of emotional distress could do that too
I kinda agree about losing Anakin but then still stand firm the Padme would not just give up on her newly born children. Anakin was abusive, he killed but as far as Padme knew at the time of delivery, Anakin was still alive. Her husband was alive, on a dark path but alive. Plus 2 new kids. Padme being killed off like that when she has the most to live for doesn't make sense to me. But I also made a part 2 of this topic exploring the posibility of the emotional suffering component too
@@starwarsdistrict the fact of him being abusive in fact may have contributed even more for her lack of willing to live as the loved become also an antagonist, feeding even more the broken heart death syndrome in her case. The delivery may have exhausted her physically but also psychologically as she may fear the son (twins in fact) could turn out like the father; nonetheless many times the rotten apple also falls very far from the tree, making this a decisive moment because she decided to have the child despite of the abuse, but because of the love for Anakin and the yet unborn one or just born a couple of minutes before her departure or joining the Force.
Hyperbaric oxygen would have restored her : she didn't have a motive to overcome a restricted throat when exhausted. Machines operate on the basis of being in the normal range, not whether a correction would help, so didn't see her weakness.
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The loud background noise (sound/music) put me off watching this vid. This interferes with understanding speech. I came here to listen to speech, not to listen to music.
@@starwarsdistrict But why would u do that? I mean why would u add a background noise (even a low lvl noise)? Just so it's more difficult to understand the speech (which is AFAIK the main feature of this vid) and less pleasant to hear? What's the idea behind it?
Interesting, as my wife's father left when she was 5. At an early age she had to start taking care of her 2 younger brothers as her mom began working to provide for the family. Even when my wife's mother remarried; the new guy was inattentive and abusive, so my wife had to continue caring for her siblings which at this point numbered four. She never got to be a child and always had to care and serve others above herself. She's always struggled with a sense of self and almost ignores her own well-being and mental health in caring for others.
@thexxwatcherxx Thank you for sharing. I can appreciate her pain. That's a tough hand to play since five yro. Very hard to break that role of serving others and being relaxed enough when it's time for her own self care. Just do your best to let her know it's okay and expected to put herself first too. I hope her brothers appreciate her
@@starwarsdistrict your Padme theory really resonated with me. I saw a lot of Padme and her experiences, according to your theory, in my wife. I was a Sociology major in college, but we had to take psyche courses too. People who have heavy responsibilities thrust upon them at an early age almost become those responsibilities as their personality. I see it in my wife and have supported her through her journey to recovery. You make thought provoking theories. Keep up the great work. Perhaps a dive into Annakin's trauma from being a slave, then losing his mother and how that affected his relationship with Padme in the future?
Many people don't have the chance to just be kids and such does not really imply those people will die at childbirth or our planet would be much more deserted, demographically speaking. They're more likely would die of a lightning struck, war, police brutality in many regimes, starvation, etc...
I like that theory a lot, but after reading the Padme Trilogy novels, it shows that Padme was really reliant on her handmaidens. Her slow isolation from them and Padme getting married without them was a major issue. Even the wedding dress she wore in the movie got her into trouble with Sabe. The Sabe aspect of her death might be more valid than anything.
@@starwarsdistrictNo it doesn't. Padmes handmaidens new of her and anikans wedding in the movie and in episode 3 . In the star wars dictionary the handmaidens were their in Padmes apartment in episode 3. They informed Padme when anikan was arriving or there. Captain Panaka also informed the Chancellor of their marriage. Yoda killing Padme makes no sense for his character. It makes sense for him to split the children up to preserve the Jedi order but not to kill Padme. There's a star wars Marvel comic series that has Padmes hand maidens seek revenge on Darth Vader for killing her.
@emperorsean1 I try to blend cannon, movies and novels and my creativity to make my fan fictions. Some contradicting will sadly happen. I do stand by Yoda killing Padme though. Would you give up ya children to the Jedi Order? The guilt made him remain on Dagobah.
Lucas gotta explain this more. Padme wanted a family. She had two kids that need her. Plus her mother and father and sister that truly love her. I feel She has reasons to live.
I think you're right. They just ran out of use with Padme story wise. It's crazy because Padme is very influential and can play big roles in anyone's storyline
I like the deep dive into her character as nobody has done so before. I don't really like the explanation that she actually "lost the will to live" as it makes her seem weaker than she really was and despite losing Anakin and her handmaids I think she would've fought to stay alive for her children. The much better explanation, which I thought was cannon at one point, maybe isn't anymore was that Darth Sidious sucked her life essence from her body through the force in order to keep Anakin alive during transportation to Coruscant and his reconstruction into Vader. The same techniques he had spoken to Anakin about, using the Force to keep someone alive. His master Plagious and many other Sith in the Old Republic had achieved such feats of relative immortality or miraculous rapid healing in battle via the Force, but it was not free, they used the Force to extract life from some other living creatures in order to repair themselves. Sidious was able to locate Padme through the Force easily because of the bond between her and Anakin and because Anakin was thinking of her the entire time he was being operated on. She did not realize her life was being stolen, and none of the droids or Obi-wan or Yoda could pinpoint what was occurring because the Dark Side had pervaded throughout the Galaxy following Order 66 and suppressed the Jedi's prescience through the Light Side. So to them she just seemed to "lose the will to live" and in a sick way....Sidious was not wrong when he told Vader "you killed her" though it was not Anakin or Vader's actions but rather his very survival through Sidious' Dark Side magic that led Padme dying
They definitely downplayed how powerful Sidious is/was. His true force abilities would not make for an entertaining movie. Who could challenge him? I think I remember reading he has the ability to summon a wormhole to collapse a planet. Plus his force choke can be used worlds apart. Direct Line of sight is not necessary. If I'm honest. The more I read about Sidious the more of a mystery he becomes. I know the darkside corrupts your purpose but I'm not sure what he really wanted. Live forever, rule the galaxy, tame the force, stop corruption, explore wild space. But depending on what age, and novel or movie he seems to be competing with himself. Am I lost?
This is extremely interesting. I really haven’t seen anyone discuss her life or death from this perspective. It does make sense though, that she may not know how to handle situations and emotions on her own. I do feel like Bail Organa counts more as a friend than a boss, but I agree he wasn’t really someone Padme probably felt she could confide in like her handmaidens or Anakin.
Good luck with your channel :)
@uwuifyingransomware Thanks for the feedback. Bail and even Mon Mothma are more like work buddies in my opinion. Let me know of any other topics that might interest you.
Keep the videos coming and
may the force be with you .
Thanks so much. Appreciate the support. Takes longer than I want to create and release vidz but will keep it up. I'm working on something new now
Interesting! One thing that always bothered me is that Padmes death while giving birth never tied in with what Leia says in Return of the Jedi "She died when I was very young". This couldn´t have been Bea Organa since it neither matches the time line nor the fact that Luke specifically asks about her "real" mother. An alternative (darker) ending would be the empire/Vader chasing down Padme, forcing her to send Leia away (to the Organas).
Padme death does bother me too. I know most just agree that Sidious killed her. He probably did but Padme was too important and influential in her own right to have speculation about her death. Ya comment also made me think... a TV sitcom with Vader Luke and Leia. The possibilities lol.
Well Padmé, I met her in the ice cream parlor, WHAT! COME ON!
Gotta admit, Padme does have more than a few ladies around her
Its interesting to hear these alternate theories.
I still lean towards the "sidious did it". Free from jedi observation and having defeated yoda himself, Sidious could finally assassinate her with long range sith abilities instead of hiring people who failed. Anakin in his wounded state wouldn't notice, and padmé had to be removed to give the empire time to settle in without her leading the senate against him. Also if there was one person who could crack the shell of dark side that anakin was burying himself in, it was padmé, and without her the potential futures where vader successfully turned on the emperor were much lower. Besides if she dies before giving birth, he gets rid of two potential future problems with her. The problem with that plan, was she had two babies sharing their life force with her, and they were strong in the force. But then, they were surgically removed, and without their help, padmé finally died from sidious's dark arts.
True Sidious probably did have a hand inn killing her off. His plans are too thought out to leave her alive. I like the part about Luke and Leia giving protection to Padme. I just don't like the way her death was left open-ended. I will be working on another Padme death theory video at some point. Can I incorporate what you have mentioned?
The way Todd incorporates his last answer, in fact does resemble a lot, with or without Sidious hand (if we consider sidious hand we also must consider the Jedi lack of lack - and lack of action is itself an action), with the broken heart death syndrome.
@@starwarsdistrict oh absolutely!
It's possible to die of love - of a "broken heart", it's very well documented (I believe this fact was likely discovered by japanese scientists or they were the first to deeply study the phenomenon using primarily deliberative thinking and, more than that, a real science approach). But it's always connected or correlated to the loss of a partner in a strict sense, not even a death of a son or daughter would move such a rare happening. So in my humble opinion, and following the hypotheses and variables we can relate to Padmé's death, I humbly am not able to believe it was because of a loss of part of her self (was really a part of her self of a convenient and very needed helpful but ego "estranged" person? More or less dependent and also with particular situations concurring for the need of it, we are social creatures that rarely can live alone - at least we're unable to grow, including as babies not only because of food, but also human skin touch without with we would die during our first months of life) as supported by the video, as, as much important her "imposed" friend - Padmé did not chose her, so we even have more moral dilemmas here than the ones openly mentioned - was or meant to Padmé, she, accordingly to current in here (read planet Earth) the broken heart death could not have happened because of her relation/projection of a future broken relation between Padmé and her surrogate (clearly is asserted Padmé needed all for her psychological well being, but the opposite, as the "defenders" had in fact more restrictions in a way and less liberty to be their own egos in the relationship with Padmé - meaning, most likely they needed her much more than Padmé needed them, again as asserted in the video and justified how Padmé split personality exists or her ego was not properly developed, I would not claim it as completely untrue, but also thus mean the "collective" had no ego at all considering one by one or only, which is very disturbing, shared a "collective ego" or a unique personality that would shatter without even one of them) and thus I deeply disagree, based on our current knowledge, that the presented reason was the cause for Padmé's death, which, in my pov is complex as the video tell us, multifaceted, with many variables, including people like herself, Anakin/Vader, Sidious, the Jedi and their code at the time and how it made the presence of Kenobi and Yoda estranged and beyond understanding for both parts (Luke's EU Jedi Academy deals perfectly with this "attachment" issues years later) but not dependent of a relationship of "dependencies" (it seems none of them grew up to build a proper and inner personality, with which i also disagree); blame can't be set on the age and lack of maturity of both Padmé and Anakin, as many royal and noble houses during centuries were married sometimes even before they reached their teen ages and that was not per si the reason they did not turn out normal people, as in fact history tell us most turned out quite good or even ok, being the worst case scenario the results of inbreeding (genetic proximity that may cause disorders or worst like malformations), like the "decease of the kings": hemophilia. Apart that, I see no logical reason for Padmé death being correlated to broken heart syndrome if not because of the lost in terrible circumstances of her true love and partner Anakin and not (never ever mentioned in any literature related to broken heart death syndrome, to my knowledge at least) because of what if (what would happen latter between Padmé and Sabé, mostly when their destiny if projected by the narrator and never happened in the movie as Padmé dies before and because she was afraid to lose a friend? A dear friend of course, but as said imposed and not chosen and there are no split personalities but two mature egos - realizing that no ego anywhere and of anyone if perfect, thus not being the cause for a broken heart death syndrome... for a friend - Sorry, but this theory is very poorly grounded in scientific terms and does not stick with me. Still, great mental exercise done. But as all hypotheses it can only be confirmed or, in my opinion in the case here, infirmed) that would happen between friends and not loved ones (and note that I on purpose distinguish friendship "love" from a more inconditional type of love, lacking better term). Cheers. Nice video, good mental exercise, conclusions could have been reached better. ;)
You are right; I did not dig too deep into the science. I tried to keep it somewhat entertaining. I did use some of my college intro psychology course lol. I am glad you enjoyed my vid and was able to get something from it. You stated your case well and I will always respect that. It's kind of a dream of mine to attend or create a class that teaches psychology & sociology but from a Star wars position. A true breakdown of each character and the group. What do you think?
@@starwarsdistrict well I think it's great. I'm a sociology researcher (PhD) and I'm finishing my master in Psychology, as I want to get the heck out of Academia as a full time researcher and invited assistant professor, the environment is absolutely toxic. Clinical Practice will do me well, and I already have an invitation from a friend psychiatrist (who also have been giving me a lot of formation besides the college official one) to go work with him and likely also in a private hospital too. Cheers.
@Maddog-xc2zv I know first hand education is rough. I had some great teachers, and they would vent their issues, and I'm shocked at how some schools restrict and limit them. I wish you the best in ya career choice. If you ever start your own course. I would love ❤️ to attend a Starwars Psychology and Sociology course. Sign me up lol.
@@starwarsdistrict Maybe you should give a try on making your own course, Psycho-Sociology of STU characters and interactions. You have all the inner will, emotional and practical intelligence, followers and knowledge can be built up as the course moves further - maybe it even makes revisit character and social interactions again to complement them with the new surplus knowledge ;) I do mean it, you should try, as you're also entertaining as yourself said your stance was more about in the approach on this particular video. Give it a chance, I'd say you'd do "perfectly" (there's no such thing as perfection, only reason for the comas) well. Cheers!
Liked and commented upon. In summary, Padme had needs and those needs involved needing Keira Knightley as a girlfriend. I can see that being Padme's little secret. Hey, I started relating to Vader simply because if I was married to Natalie Portman and she died three years in, I'd be taking that out on everyone as well.
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Hi. This is Dormé . One of Padme's handmaidens and best friends.
There is no mystery. She died of a broken heart.
True; that is the official answer but it does not sit right with me. A broken heart; when she literally just gave birth to twins and a bit of back ground knowledge; her family would have embraced Padme and her kids so much. From her family aspect alone; her "broken heart" death seems limited.
@ it shouldn’t sit right with you because it is stupid and bad writing. In 'Return of the Jedi' there is a scene where Luke asks Leia, "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?" Leia replies, "A little bit, she died when I was very you."
Luke responds, "What do you remember?" Leia says, "Just images really… Feelings"
Luke says, "Tell Me." Leia continues, "She was beautiful, kind but sad. Why are you asking me?"
And that is the question, why is Luke asking about Bail Organa's wife? He isn’t he is asking about his mother. Ignoring the prequels and the stupidity of "she died of a broken heart" Luke and Leia's mother didn’t die during child birth. Their mother hid on Alderaan pretending to be senator Organa's wife with her daughter until she died a few years later. If Bail Organa’s wife was handed a child why would she be sad and wouldn’t Luke be smart enough to know that his mother died in childbirth and not ask Leia about the woman that adopted her who wouldn’t be sad to have a child that she could not have had otherwise. Why would Luke ask Leia a question that would only have brought up pain and bad feelings for Leia?
What should have happened is that they used the last of Padme's handmaiden's as a decoy to fool the Emperor and Anakin into thinking that Padme had died rather then having her actually die and if you want a mystery that’s the mystery you should explore. Did Padme actually die?
@brianrussell463 I like your point. I have to think on this one too. Off the top of my head... Anakin and definitely Palpatine should be able to sense the differences between the handmaiden and Padme. In the Padme trilogy novel... One of her handmaiden was used as a decoy and Anakin angrily knew the difference very quickly
@ there could be a bunch of reason why the fake death of Padme would work. Off the top of my head, Darth Vader did some very stupid things, like actually accepting that Padme died just based on Palpatine's word, and not checking his home planet for a number of reason like looking for Obiwan in the place were they met or to end the slavery that was going on there since before his childhood or even to find the droid that he built. So faking her death and having her live as the King of Alderon (not a senator's) wife maker her a queen and her daughter a princess. Leaving the scene in Return of the Jedi have actually meaning rather then pointless and a waste of Luke's time. And Luke would have done research to see if Bail Organa was married before he and, by extension, his sister's birth and he would then know that Leia's real mother was dead and have no need to ask those questions in Return of the Jedi. But maybe Luke is just as stupid as his father and the never did the research and he made a stupid assumption about Leia’s real mother.
Yoda did not killed padme I thought what killed her was seeing what happened to Anakin and losing Anakin I think a lot of emotional distress could do that too
I kinda agree about losing Anakin but then still stand firm the Padme would not just give up on her newly born children. Anakin was abusive, he killed but as far as Padme knew at the time of delivery, Anakin was still alive. Her husband was alive, on a dark path but alive. Plus 2 new kids. Padme being killed off like that when she has the most to live for doesn't make sense to me. But I also made a part 2 of this topic exploring the posibility of the emotional suffering component too
@@starwarsdistrict the fact of him being abusive in fact may have contributed even more for her lack of willing to live as the loved become also an antagonist, feeding even more the broken heart death syndrome in her case. The delivery may have exhausted her physically but also psychologically as she may fear the son (twins in fact) could turn out like the father; nonetheless many times the rotten apple also falls very far from the tree, making this a decisive moment because she decided to have the child despite of the abuse, but because of the love for Anakin and the yet unborn one or just born a couple of minutes before her departure or joining the Force.
Hyperbaric oxygen would have restored her : she didn't have a motive to overcome a restricted throat when exhausted. Machines operate on the basis of being in the normal range, not whether a correction would help, so didn't see her weakness.
I think we are saying the same thing. She was exhausted. Her motive for living was not clear to her.
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I was trying to answer the other side of the equation : why didn't the machines act ? They should have.
@@michaeledwards2251 You got me on that one. I got nothing. Meditate on this, I will. lol
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The loud background noise (sound/music) put me off watching this vid. This interferes with understanding speech.
I came here to listen to speech, not to listen to music.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to adjust my computer volume
@@starwarsdistrict But why would u do that? I mean why would u add a background noise (even a low lvl noise)? Just so it's more difficult to understand the speech (which is AFAIK the main feature of this vid) and less pleasant to hear?
What's the idea behind it?
It sounds like Padme never really had a chance to just be a kid and she had to grow up pretty darn quickly.
From what I've read she was practically an adult from the time she was a little girl
Interesting, as my wife's father left when she was 5. At an early age she had to start taking care of her 2 younger brothers as her mom began working to provide for the family. Even when my wife's mother remarried; the new guy was inattentive and abusive, so my wife had to continue caring for her siblings which at this point numbered four. She never got to be a child and always had to care and serve others above herself. She's always struggled with a sense of self and almost ignores her own well-being and mental health in caring for others.
@thexxwatcherxx Thank you for sharing. I can appreciate her pain. That's a tough hand to play since five yro. Very hard to break that role of serving others and being relaxed enough when it's time for her own self care. Just do your best to let her know it's okay and expected to put herself first too. I hope her brothers appreciate her
@@starwarsdistrict your Padme theory really resonated with me. I saw a lot of Padme and her experiences, according to your theory, in my wife. I was a Sociology major in college, but we had to take psyche courses too. People who have heavy responsibilities thrust upon them at an early age almost become those responsibilities as their personality. I see it in my wife and have supported her through her journey to recovery. You make thought provoking theories. Keep up the great work. Perhaps a dive into Annakin's trauma from being a slave, then losing his mother and how that affected his relationship with Padme in the future?
Many people don't have the chance to just be kids and such does not really imply those people will die at childbirth or our planet would be much more deserted, demographically speaking. They're more likely would die of a lightning struck, war, police brutality in many regimes, starvation, etc...
Darth Sidious Killed Her So He Could Turn Anakin into Darth Vader And Make sure He Never Knew The Truth
I agree to some extent. I have a theory on this that I'm still working on. I think you will like it.
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Makes more sense Yoda killed her to preserve the Jedi order
I like that theory a lot, but after reading the Padme Trilogy novels, it shows that Padme was really reliant on her handmaidens. Her slow isolation from them and Padme getting married without them was a major issue. Even the wedding dress she wore in the movie got her into trouble with Sabe. The Sabe aspect of her death might be more valid than anything.
@@starwarsdistrictNo it doesn't. Padmes handmaidens new of her and anikans wedding in the movie and in episode 3 . In the star wars dictionary the handmaidens were their in Padmes apartment in episode 3. They informed Padme when anikan was arriving or there. Captain Panaka also informed the Chancellor of their marriage. Yoda killing Padme makes no sense for his character. It makes sense for him to split the children up to preserve the Jedi order but not to kill Padme. There's a star wars Marvel comic series that has Padmes hand maidens seek revenge on Darth Vader for killing her.
@emperorsean1 I try to blend cannon, movies and novels and my creativity to make my fan fictions. Some contradicting will sadly happen. I do stand by Yoda killing Padme though. Would you give up ya children to the Jedi Order? The guilt made him remain on Dagobah.
Yoda killed her so that he and Kenobi could steal the twins .
@@lordofpain3476 I agree 👍. I took it a step further. His guilt caused him to stay hidden
She no longer reasons to be alive I guess. Plus she was in the way of other powerful people as well.
Lucas gotta explain this more. Padme wanted a family. She had two kids that need her. Plus her mother and father and sister that truly love her. I feel She has reasons to live.
@@starwarsdistrict , I think that regardless of her reasons, others sought to get her out of the way, even in the so-called good guys side.
I think you're right. They just ran out of use with Padme story wise. It's crazy because Padme is very influential and can play big roles in anyone's storyline
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