ANdor was made by adults with real writing skills. It showed in the slow character developments but so good to experienced as a viewer. It showed in the choice of castings. It feels like watching Orwell's 1984 in space.
I agree. Without having any Force Welders in the show along with the way, it was written, captivated the audience about oppression, love, and triumph through the human spirit. That’s why I think this show was fantastic and it just happened to be set in a galaxy far far away…….
Totally Agree. I absolutely Love the entire Andor series from the beginning. When considered as an entire story arc, it's one of the best Sci-Fi-Opera stream series ever made. Rogue One remains my 3rd most rewatched SW film, right behind IV and V. Once in awhile the stars come together for mega hits like these. Thank the Gods for 4k discs.
Andor suffered from lack of viewers when it released. But it found an audience and a lot of love afterwards. For me it's better than the sequels, Solo, mando season 3 and all other Disney+ shows. The writing and acting on another level. But that's just me 😊
I agree. The only star wars better than this was the OT and it gives ROTJ a run for it's money. This is my third favorite star wars project ever. So good
The way this was shot and written is exactly what was needed, It moved Star Wars away from the fairy tale tropes of all the previous films. If they want this franchise to evolve and grow this is the way forward.
While tone might be slightly different, this is the kind of Star Wars I wanted to see in my youth following Empire. Took 30+ years to get it, but was sooooo worth the wait.
What made this show so great was it really exposed just how corrupt, tyrannical and evil the Empire was. They put it blatantly in the viewers face. Definitely the best Star Wars series on Disney since the Mandolorian.
Nothing “slow” in episodes 1-3, if people pay attention. Every moment and line is important and pays off. They are among my favourite episodes. Galen Erso would be a very welcome addition, and the scene I would most love would be one between him and the pilot defector, Bodhi Rook. It wouldn’t be terribly dramatic if all of Cassian‘s friends were killed before they even reached their destination - as there are four years, it makes much more sense for them to die one by one for maximum dramatic impact. Plus Adria Arjona (Bix) seems to have a pretty major role, going by the leaked sizzle reel trailers. Losing her , considering she’s arguably the single most important person left in Cassian’s life at this time, shouldn’t just happen off screen.
agree there's more depth in a few minutes of Andor than the entire acolyte, pick any few minutes you want..... it's to me about as opposite from tradtional disney plus star wars fomula of have a lightsaber fight or two, have a couple of ships in space there you go thats star wars and then crap over the whole idea of Star Wars. I thought the idea of these shows was to go deeoer into the star wars universe and cover some detail of which Lucas left plenty of wiggle room to do from the original six films... it does that very well and there's nothing else that does this so well, at all reallly apart from the Mandalorian does that ok. I personally like the idea all the players are very sure about which side they are on, Cassian is the one who is not!
One thing that made this show so good is that, they sat back and told their story. No real concerns about placating to the fan service model. Or press an external agenda. Pretty obvious that they attempted the fan service to goop over the agenda. Doesn’t work. Go ahead and place your Easter eggs, your deep cuts, but just tell your story.
I suppose it's a testimony to how well the series played out, that I saw this video and thought there's already been two seasons. My brain has a hard time accepting that there was so much quality story telling, and so much that happened, in just one season of a show.
It does not feel farthest away from the original trilogy. In fact it looks ans feels like it's _from_ the 70s -- like if Scorcese somehow directed a Star Wars TV series with 2020s technology.
If they’re going to make the second season “very different this time around” that is definitively NOT a good thing. I thought Andor was the finest Star Wars production ever made. Doing away with the infantile space ninja magic, and giving the script writing duties to a real writer, turned the show into something that felt much more like an Aasimov style space epic (like Foundation). I was hooked from the first episode. The dialogue was spectacular, the actors were first rate (Adria Arjona and Diego Luna were mind blowing). The effects were stellar and the action was thrilling (the whole sequence where they steal the Empire’s gold and escape under cover of the glowing meteor storm was absolutely exhilarating). What a magnificent achievement. I hope it’s not TOO different.
The first two episodes were a bit slow but the series was the best star wars project ive seen not named a new hope or empire strikes back. Amazing to do without a vader like presence.
I just last night finished watching Andor for the third time. Yes it’s tone is much different than the original trilogy. Yes it’s dark. Yes there are no jedi. None of this is a problem, and it is the “deepest” of any of the other shows or movies, even Rogue One. Regardless, it shows that SW can be thought provoking, and not just a space fantasy romp. I look forward to season 2 more than I can say, as long as they carry the established story forward, and don’t pull an “acolyte”.
Andor is the best of what the Disney Star Wars era has had to offer. The rest has largely been a flaming dumpster fire approximately the size of Manhattan.
The beginning of S1 only “felt slow” and “required patience” for numbskulls who basically consider themselves beneficiaries of the McDonaldsization of entertainment and storytelling in the US. Anyone who has watched and loved The Wire (for example) did not feel the need to “speed things up” - they were simply engrossed in a complex and breathtaking story, wondering where it would take them, and issuing no complaints. Don’t try to subtract points from Andor because it isn’t the storytelling equivalent of a f***ing happy meal. Thanks!
If Kino Loy is still alive in S2 ... I'll be not just disappointed, I'll be angry. He KNOWS ... the idea that they'd leave him alive (after what we saw in S1) and just send him back to work ... is ludicrous. But, beyond that, it would undermine his character arc and one of the most important over arching themes of S1: knowing sacrifice
No. You didn’t hear his whole speech. In it, he tells the inmates to band together and help each other escape. That’s not what they were incentivized to do by the prison labor rules. The inmates were forced to compete and fight each other by the Empire in order to control them. But Kino inspired them to work together…so those inmates helped him escape over the water. And I think Kino returns as a rebel general and maybe sacrificing himself to win an important battle.
It's called "Star Wars" but you only truly feel the gravity of that title watching "Rogue One", "Andor" and "The Clone Wars". Besides those series you really never experience the impact this Galactic Empire has on the average person in the galaxy.
Andor was total Star Wars. Just from a different perspective. It really showed just how tyrannical the Empire was, from their intolerance for small skirmishes on backwoods planets to the human slave labor on Narkina 5. This would have been around the same time the loose rebel cells started to get more organized, with Mon Mothma help fund the operation from inside the Empire. Of course in Rebels she obviously catches too much heat and has to be rescued and taken to Yavin.
No Jedi, no lightsabers... yet its the best Star Wars since the original trilogy. It has been the victim of low viewership by no fault of its own (basically Disney has been shoveling crap for so long that people checked out and missed out on this gem). But considering the word of mouth and high praise from reviewers, everyone is hoping season two will be a different story.
I too thought that B2 EMO would be killed and somehow downloaded into the imperial droid to become K2, but was berated online by SW fans for the idea. They couldn't agree with it or like the idea. I mean B2 was a droid that said he needed more power to lie, and i think K2 is a droid with no tact and is brutally honest about everything, instead of sparing your feelings he comes straight out with an honest POV of the situation.
I WANT to see Star Wars redeem itself from the disaster that was the acolyte. Even the story was disasterous. Andor, had next to no Trinity in it, but, to me, it felt like STAR WARS.MmON MOTHMA & Sa Guerra..
Andor show parallel irl: The Ghorman Trade blockage (addressed in Ep 4 by Mon Mothma) = Gaza aid blockage The Ghorman Massacre = Gazan massacre Mon Mothma speaking in Senate yet nobody's listening = the UN and the EU assembly Ferrix = West Bank Oct 7 just like Al Dhani is an announcement. Nemik's manifesto describes what is happening in this conflict right now. But you'd see some SW fans supporting the rebel alliance in the franchise yet condemn the axis of the resistance in the Middle-East just because they're not the right colour.
Andor Season 1 seems to be successful because Kennedy cared about this one the least. I fear that after all its praise she now seeks to claim season 2 as hers.
🙄 They should have released it now, considering its a political story and the elections are here, but Disney never misses a chance to get in its own way
Just Star Wars those who are true Star Wars fans is there a chance or a possibility that? The acolyte can return not the same series and another spinoff series finishing with the series could not the same way WandaVision did I mean the only possible thing to do?
The first season was like watching paint dry. They spent WAY too much time on the prison scenes. It was so long that I was starting to feel like I was a prisoner there. I hope season 2 is better.
@@411bvRGiskard Lol. Unless I missed a memo, saturday morning cartoons disappeared many years ago. A strange comment to make considering anyone who thought this show was good is simple minded and easy to please. The type of person that thinks this show was good is same person that would enjoy saturday morning cartoons while drinking koolaid from a sippy cup and eating captain crunch.
Let’s be clear, Andor was good. But this attempt to imbue it with undeniable greatness is just the alt right Star Wars haters artificially propping it up to justify them hating every other thing. It was good don’t get me wrong, but it’s nowhere near what they try to suggest.
The alt-right Star Wars haters are propping up the show despite it being arguably the wokest Star Wars because its straight up ACAB, decarceration, Antifa, and Communist propaganda. (Tony Gilroy basically confirmed it in interviews. He based Cassian Andor on young STALIN of all people.) Ironic…
Andor always felt like if STANLEY KUBRICK was given a crack at SW. It is amazing when you have good writers, directors at the helm with out gender politics slathered on everything like a bad CW, Disney, Nickelodeon or Hallmark level shows. That is what killed the NEW trilogy, Kenobi, Book of Boba, Mando S3, and the Acolite, etc.
By far the best Star Wars series yet.
Best star wars*
And it ain't even close
It’s the only one written firstly for adults.
Very much agree!
Yes.
ANdor was made by adults with real writing skills. It showed in the slow character developments but so good to experienced as a viewer. It showed in the choice of castings. It feels like watching Orwell's 1984 in space.
I loved every second of every episode of Andor. Excellent writing and character development. Truly original.
I agree. Without having any Force Welders in the show along with the way, it was written, captivated the audience about oppression, love, and triumph through the human spirit. That’s why I think this show was fantastic and it just happened to be set in a galaxy far far away…….
Totally Agree. I absolutely Love the entire Andor series from the beginning. When considered as an entire story arc, it's one of the best Sci-Fi-Opera stream series ever made. Rogue One remains my 3rd most rewatched SW film, right behind IV and V. Once in awhile the stars come together for mega hits like these. Thank the Gods for 4k discs.
Andor suffered from lack of viewers when it released. But it found an audience and a lot of love afterwards. For me it's better than the sequels, Solo, mando season 3 and all other Disney+ shows. The writing and acting on another level. But that's just me 😊
To me... Andor is peak star Wars beating literally anything else
Except maybe Clone Wars / Bad Batch / Rebels
I agree. The only star wars better than this was the OT and it gives ROTJ a run for it's money. This is my third favorite star wars project ever. So good
Couldn't agree more, Friends.
Totally agree, although suffering g from a lack of sweet jedi action, the writing and editing were just mind blowing!
The way this was shot and written is exactly what was needed, It moved Star Wars away from the fairy tale tropes of all the previous films. If they want this franchise to evolve and grow this is the way forward.
I got more emotional when kino said "i cant swim" than at any point in the entire star wars trilogy
it was because of that moment, that i learnt to swim.
Which trilogy?
@FelonFitness nice correction. Any of the star wars films. Except 4 & 5
While tone might be slightly different, this is the kind of Star Wars I wanted to see in my youth following Empire. Took 30+ years to get it, but was sooooo worth the wait.
What made this show so great was it really exposed just how corrupt, tyrannical and evil the Empire was. They put it blatantly in the viewers face. Definitely the best Star Wars series on Disney since the Mandolorian.
The crushing evil of never ending nameless, faceless bureaucracy. The downfall of every government.
Hmmm... sounds familiar, almost as if it's happening in the real world right now
I watched Andor through 3 times. Love it ❤❤❤
Exactly! It gets better with each viewing and that's the true test of greatness.
I'll be watching it for my 3 time just before season 2. Already looking forward to it.
I am on my 5th time now - love it❤❤❤❤❤❤
Nothing “slow” in episodes 1-3, if people pay attention. Every moment and line is important and pays off. They are among my favourite episodes.
Galen Erso would be a very welcome addition, and the scene I would most love would be one between him and the pilot defector, Bodhi Rook.
It wouldn’t be terribly dramatic if all of Cassian‘s friends were killed before they even reached their destination - as there are four years, it makes much more sense for them to die one by one for maximum dramatic impact. Plus Adria Arjona (Bix) seems to have a pretty major role, going by the leaked sizzle reel trailers. Losing her , considering she’s arguably the single most important person left in Cassian’s life at this time, shouldn’t just happen off screen.
agree there's more depth in a few minutes of Andor than the entire acolyte, pick any few minutes you want..... it's to me about as opposite from tradtional disney plus star wars fomula of have a lightsaber fight or two, have a couple of ships in space there you go thats star wars and then crap over the whole idea of Star Wars. I thought the idea of these shows was to go deeoer into the star wars universe and cover some detail of which Lucas left plenty of wiggle room to do from the original six films... it does that very well and there's nothing else that does this so well, at all reallly apart from the Mandalorian does that ok. I personally like the idea all the players are very sure about which side they are on, Cassian is the one who is not!
I agree, I was fully hooked from the first episode. It is so far ahead of everything else Disney has done with Star Wars it’s kind of mind-boggling.
Andor was a win
Andor was one of the most gripping shows I've seen in a while. Disney really need to use its writing team as a basis for how to structure future shows
One thing that made this show so good is that, they sat back and told their story. No real concerns about placating to the fan service model. Or press an external agenda. Pretty obvious that they attempted the fan service to goop over the agenda. Doesn’t work. Go ahead and place your Easter eggs, your deep cuts, but just tell your story.
I suppose it's a testimony to how well the series played out, that I saw this video and thought there's already been two seasons. My brain has a hard time accepting that there was so much quality story telling, and so much that happened, in just one season of a show.
What new approach? Finally some good Star Wars content!!!
Not one, but 4 of the greatest monologues - Luthen's, Kino's, and Maarva's, and Nemik's. The writers for Andor are Shakespearean.
Your K2SO theory is a GREAT idea.
Mon’s background joining the alliance was touched upon in Rebels, as well as Saw’s strained relationship with the rest of the alliance.
That’s right, I think this will be explored further though
You are my new favorite Star Wars TH-camr. I wish more were like you.
Best Star Wars by far! I cannot wait!!
It is the story of how the Empire built the Death Star. Essentially the Star Wars Silmarillion.
It does not feel farthest away from the original trilogy. In fact it looks ans feels like it's _from_ the 70s -- like if Scorcese somehow directed a Star Wars TV series with 2020s technology.
If they’re going to make the second season “very different this time around” that is definitively NOT a good thing. I thought Andor was the finest Star Wars production ever made. Doing away with the infantile space ninja magic, and giving the script writing duties to a real writer, turned the show into something that felt much more like an Aasimov style space epic (like Foundation). I was hooked from the first episode. The dialogue was spectacular, the actors were first rate (Adria Arjona and Diego Luna were mind blowing). The effects were stellar and the action was thrilling (the whole sequence where they steal the Empire’s gold and escape under cover of the glowing meteor storm was absolutely exhilarating).
What a magnificent achievement. I hope it’s not TOO different.
The first two episodes were a bit slow but the series was the best star wars project ive seen not named a new hope or empire strikes back. Amazing to do without a vader like presence.
The 3 act movie method for the three episode stories was a stroke of genius.
Just watching this brings tears to my eyes. Cannot wait for the 2nd season ❤
I just last night finished watching Andor for the third time. Yes it’s tone is much different than the original trilogy. Yes it’s dark. Yes there are no jedi. None of this is a problem, and it is the “deepest” of any of the other shows or movies, even Rogue One. Regardless, it shows that SW can be thought provoking, and not just a space fantasy romp. I look forward to season 2 more than I can say, as long as they carry the established story forward, and don’t pull an “acolyte”.
I am looking forward to seeing more details on how bad the empire really is.
Loved it ! so ready for season two.
Andor hands down best star wars spin off. Glad to hear about a second season.
I can't wait for Andor season 2. I haven't been this excited since RotJ release
I absolutely can’t wait for this series !
Andor is the best of what the Disney Star Wars era has had to offer. The rest has largely been a flaming dumpster fire approximately the size of Manhattan.
More like the size of Texas 🤔😏
Andor is to me, and by far, the best Star Wars ever.
Nimic's monologue was great also.
I totally agree 👍
Wish they did one more series so it didn’t do lots of jumps
Can’t wait for this. Without a doubt the best Star Wars series
The best because it was a different and new perspective done well.
The beginning of S1 only “felt slow” and “required patience” for numbskulls who basically consider themselves beneficiaries of the McDonaldsization of entertainment and storytelling in the US. Anyone who has watched and loved The Wire (for example) did not feel the need to “speed things up” - they were simply engrossed in a complex and breathtaking story, wondering where it would take them, and issuing no complaints.
Don’t try to subtract points from Andor because it isn’t the storytelling equivalent of a f***ing happy meal. Thanks!
If Kino Loy is still alive in S2 ... I'll be not just disappointed, I'll be angry.
He KNOWS ... the idea that they'd leave him alive (after what we saw in S1) and just send him back to work ... is ludicrous.
But, beyond that, it would undermine his character arc and one of the most important over arching themes of S1: knowing sacrifice
Agreed. Kino has to be dead for his story arc to stay epic. ONE WAY OUT means so much more after he says "I can't swim". So good
No. You didn’t hear his whole speech. In it, he tells the inmates to band together and help each other escape. That’s not what they were incentivized to do by the prison labor rules. The inmates were forced to compete and fight each other by the Empire in order to control them. But Kino inspired them to work together…so those inmates helped him escape over the water. And I think Kino returns as a rebel general and maybe sacrificing himself to win an important battle.
I hope he lives for the sole fact that it’s Andy Serkis
Spoiler, he is alive
So glad it’s ending. They won’t squeeze the life out of this series or character
Andor is the star wars we deserve
It's called "Star Wars" but you only truly feel the gravity of that title watching "Rogue One", "Andor" and "The Clone Wars". Besides those series you really never experience the impact this Galactic Empire has on the average person in the galaxy.
Andor was total Star Wars. Just from a different perspective. It really showed just how tyrannical the Empire was, from their intolerance for small skirmishes on backwoods planets to the human slave labor on Narkina 5. This would have been around the same time the loose rebel cells started to get more organized, with Mon Mothma help fund the operation from inside the Empire. Of course in Rebels she obviously catches too much heat and has to be rescued and taken to Yavin.
Andor is the MOST like the original trilogy. Not in mood, but in aesthetic. It’s shows the dark underbelly we knew was there in the OT.
I hope its another well told story.
Andor should be the future for Star Wars. It is time to have awesome writing and acting. Leave the childish behind.
No Jedi, no lightsabers... yet its the best Star Wars since the original trilogy. It has been the victim of low viewership by no fault of its own (basically Disney has been shoveling crap for so long that people checked out and missed out on this gem). But considering the word of mouth and high praise from reviewers, everyone is hoping season two will be a different story.
I hope Season 2 will be as good as Seasons 1.
Sorry, but I loved it fro0m the beginning.
Best series so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I too thought that B2 EMO would be killed and somehow downloaded into the imperial droid to become K2, but was berated online by SW fans for the idea.
They couldn't agree with it or like the idea. I mean B2 was a droid that said he needed more power to lie, and i think K2 is a droid with no tact and is brutally honest about everything, instead of sparing your feelings he comes straight out with an honest POV of the situation.
My thought too
It would be great to see Tarkin.
Andor is Star Wars for adults
I justhope it is as good as the first one, yes no sweet jeudi action but the first season was m8nd blowing g and such high quality
Best thing done since obi one loved the first season hope the second one is as good the acolyte was terrible but andor was absolutely fantastic
Andor's success is simple. It actually follows Star Wars lore, tone, and character mechanics. There's no wokism or underlying political BS.
Imagine if all Star Wars was as well written as Andor
Dude is a Sith . The shop owner...
There are millions of stories that can be told in this setting that don't involve space wizards with angry glow sticks.
They better not F this up. The first was a GD masterpiece.
I'm surprised every time i hear Marva say "fight the empire!" because my brain remembers a different F word. No matter how many times i watch it.
This needs to be aired before Disney Star Wars is put out of its misery.
think its closest to orignal trilogy not furthest, Went back to empire is scary and overwhelming and rebels fighting from underneath
I WANT to see Star Wars redeem itself from the disaster that was the acolyte. Even the story was disasterous. Andor, had next to no Trinity in it, but, to me, it felt like STAR WARS.MmON MOTHMA & Sa Guerra..
I want to see more show about ordinary people who fight the empire,,,,not just superhuman jedi
Easily the best show
I like the 1st 3 episodes
Mon mothas storyarc was covered in star wars rebels
Yeah, but i want a real story arc please
Luke & Laia would have been 12 at the time of andor season 1. There cannot be any Skywalker story they are not even teens yet.
Will alex ferns be in season 2 ,I liked his character, in the end d just opened a beer
More of exactly the same please...its grown up Star Wars and keep Kathleen Kennedy as far away as possible.
She actually asked Gilroy for his opinion of what the series should be and then after reading it, green lit it.
Will there be aliens??? It seems more like a Earth-centric French Resistance movie than actual Star Wars.
The first season was brilliant. Saying it will be 'very different' makes me worried that they are going to Disney'-fy this for the worse.
I think Luthen dies with Alderran.
Only good thing disney has made...
Why I'm the only one i find Andor boring slow and not on the spirit of Star Wars?
Andor show parallel irl:
The Ghorman Trade blockage (addressed in Ep 4 by Mon Mothma) = Gaza aid blockage
The Ghorman Massacre = Gazan massacre
Mon Mothma speaking in Senate yet nobody's listening = the UN and the EU assembly
Ferrix = West Bank
Oct 7 just like Al Dhani is an announcement.
Nemik's manifesto describes what is happening in this conflict right now.
But you'd see some SW fans supporting the rebel alliance in the franchise yet condemn the axis of the resistance in the Middle-East just because they're not the right colour.
Is this the channel that's falling/fallen out with SW Theory?
Andor Season 1 seems to be successful because Kennedy cared about this one the least. I fear that after all its praise she now seeks to claim season 2 as hers.
🙄 They should have released it now, considering its a political story and the elections are here, but Disney never misses a chance to get in its own way
The best news for SWC would be that Kathleen Kennedy and her entire woke-mad group gets fired. Second best….she at lest stays away from SWC.
Grow TF up
Does anyone care?
Just Star Wars those who are true Star Wars fans is there a chance or a possibility that? The acolyte can return not the same series and another spinoff series finishing with the series could not the same way WandaVision did I mean the only possible thing to do?
I want to know if Luthen was a Jedi.
The first season was like watching paint dry. They spent WAY too much time on the prison scenes. It was so long that I was starting to feel like I was a prisoner there. I hope season 2 is better.
Plenty of Saturday morning cartoons you can watch instead.
@@411bvRGiskard Lol. Unless I missed a memo, saturday morning cartoons disappeared many years ago. A strange comment to make considering anyone who thought this show was good is simple minded and easy to please. The type of person that thinks this show was good is same person that would enjoy saturday morning cartoons while drinking koolaid from a sippy cup and eating captain crunch.
Let’s be clear, Andor was good. But this attempt to imbue it with undeniable greatness is just the alt right Star Wars haters artificially propping it up to justify them hating every other thing. It was good don’t get me wrong, but it’s nowhere near what they try to suggest.
For me at least it deserves all the praise it gets.
Finally someone who said it!!! 💯 % agree
The alt-right Star Wars haters are propping up the show despite it being arguably the wokest Star Wars because its straight up ACAB, decarceration, Antifa, and Communist propaganda. (Tony Gilroy basically confirmed it in interviews. He based Cassian Andor on young STALIN of all people.)
Ironic…
Whatever you need to tell yourself in order to cope.
😂. Bad take, but okay.
The Ghorman Massacre incoming in S2 🫣😵
Andor always felt like if STANLEY KUBRICK was given a crack at SW.
It is amazing when you have good writers, directors at the helm with out gender politics slathered on everything like a bad CW, Disney, Nickelodeon or Hallmark level shows.
That is what killed the NEW trilogy, Kenobi, Book of Boba, Mando S3, and the Acolite, etc.