How to Start A Job in the Middle of The Program - Haas Automation Tip of the Day
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มี.ค. 2017
- Today, Mark shows how to use Setting 36, the Haas Program Restart feature. Have you ever had your power go out right in the middle of your program? Or maybe you broke a tool or needed to change an insert, or wanted to inspect your part during the finish pass. With Haas’ Program Restart, it’s no problem! Mark shows you yet another powerful Haas feature that comes standard with every machine.
NOTE: The Program Restart Feature is available on current Haas machines with the exception of NGC Lathes and our GM 5-Axis mills. On those machines, the Program Restart feature has been limited for machine safety as some cycles and machine capabilities would conflict.
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Lol that Troll 2 “Oh my gooodddd!” scream in the *earthquake scenario* cracks me up! 😂
Useful update: The last Line “N” Number being run is displayed above your program, in MEM, even if the power goes out and the machine is restarted! This will let you know where the machine was at if power was lost, if you use N numbers. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Haas Automation, Inc. That's awesome! I was just about to comment that Haas should add a feature where it remembers the last line of code it was on before something happened. Haas just keeps getting better! Can't wait for more Haas TOD! - Jacob S.
Question about the G150 pocket command in the manuel. why is it written with a G41 cutter comp instead of a G42?
Mark, Can you get them to change the N count to Hexidecimal? doesnt take long to go through 99999 lines
In hindi
While watching this video, I was asking to my self: How do we know the last line running when the power was lost? And here's the answer...Thanks Mark!
Thanks, Mark! I called Haas in Rochester NY and no one there knew how to do this. I kept asking them, "do you have a sequence or number restart on these machines?" No one knew. I couldn't believe it. You saved the day with this video! Thanks again!
Great video! Something interesting to remember is that if you are running a macro in your program to change an offset (for example), the restart will increment the macro, assuming the macro is before your restart position.
I got bit by this once and it's now it's on my mind when I am using restart.
I use the program Restart feature at least 5 times a day. Thanks for the great videos as usual Mark!
these videos came out when I was going to school for cnc machining, I love how I still enjoy watching them
Thanks Mark! I can't count how many times this would have been useful! I'll definitely be using this in the future!
1874bassix - Good to hear. Thanks for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
I'm been a HAAS Machinist for a wile now and that code is so helpful great video
I have used this and it is a life saver 👍
Great tip. Thanks!
Thanks good instructor
AWESOME!
Good job
I had to shut down in the middle of a long toolpath this morning, and was moaning and groaning about it ... get home and check my e-mail and PRESTO! Problem solved. Unbelievable timing.
Selkiemaine - That’s great! We hear that a lot. One of our dealers called me, after we made the right-angled head video, and thought we were spying on him. He was at a customers, helping them program a right-angled head when the video posted. Thanks for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Single block + offsets at distance to go [and low rapid speed] may take a little longer to get stuff done BUT... saves the agony of part getting munched!
cool ,learned something ,thank you, mike
your videos are pretty dank for a cnc channel, keep going on!
Helpful really . how far back does this go , for example will it work on machines 2005 and onward ?, also is it a standard setting ?
Haas ta la vista, baby.
Can you guys go over G101 mirror image?
How does this work when needing to start half way through a G71 canned cycle on a lathe? obviously the programme doesn't represent what diameter it was roughed down to when stopped. Thanks Callum
С недавних пор работаю на обрабатывающем центре «Хаас». Техническая литература по данному типу оборудования отсутствует. Спасибо за совет, Марк!
Hi, how do i do this on the lathe? Whenever i am turning large ODs and have to flip a turning tip over, i always have to start at the very beginning of that tool op. Imagine the aircuts the machine is doing if i had stopped in the middle. thanks
If inner diameter of the part finishing is runing that small dots are coming pls tell me trouble shoot
what if i adjust the x or y offset, does the machine will read the value i enter?
Can i ask one question.. If i reset the program.. After crashed the tool and i want start the middle program after i change the new.. Can you list the step what i want to do..
how do you know what line it stopped on if the power went out?
After you type in theh Line Number "PRESS DOWN ARROW" :)
Golly, good thing I threw all those somewhat valuable objects at the enclosure before seeing this!
You are my personal savior
Hello, eso mismo estoy haciendo en el Centro HAAS VF6 50... con la diferendcia que acá no hay terremotos, si temblores imperceptibles... enseñando esos trucos de la máquina.
Is there a way to restart at a certain loop in a repeated m97 subprogram?
How do you do this from a nested program? Let's say there's a pallet program and then it jumps to part programs and I want to restart in the middle of the part while still being able to m99 back to my pallet program
How to how to calculate depth of cut in different tools
Is this also safe to use on 4th and 5th axis?
Somteime i stop the machine in the middle om process, and change cutters by using stop motion, jog Z-axis and restart. Works fine when ints not a 3-d contur. If it is a 3-d conture it wont restart on same place, i need to run the whole program again.
you forgot to mention that when the power went off, your ball end mill put a huge gouge in the face of your "mold"
MegaJohnhammond - Yeah, I’ve had that issue too. I don’t even press FEED HOLD while in a cut on a mold, knowing that it will dwell and leave a “hickey” on the part, that at best will need to be polished. Hopefully the tip still comes in handy at some point. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Leaderway v650 milling machine how to use this ?
Finally got around to catching up on the TotD's. This one is super awesome, but the programs I need to use it on are too big to be loaded into memory on our VF4(400k+ lines) and I have to run them from the USB. I can get search to the proper line in Edit mode but it goes back to beginning in Memory mode. And as far as I know, the search feature is not available in Memory Mode. Am I missing some trick somewhere?
Dumascain - The search function should work, in MEM Mode, while running a program on your USB (FNC Mode). With large programs, using Program Restart, or even just searching, can take several minutes. For more help, send us your Serial #, to TOD@haascnc.com. From this we can figure out what software version you are running.
just like a modal start? on like a dnc computer?
I COULD HAVE USED THIS FRIDAY SMH
What if you don't have line (N) numbers?
when will next gen control be able to send and receive 'all' like all the old controls. it's really annoying us.
1:30 Where did you guys find that "OH MY GOOOD" sound from?
Troll 2
Mark, does this program restart work also with relative coordinate system programming? Does it preserve all the vectors above the restart line?
It scans the program from the very start and resumes where you told it to.
That is a strong tap! How did that thing not snap??
It was more than a full semicircle so axial forces were still contained in the hole.
BrowFinGarf - Yeah, that cutaway was fun. I thought I’d have to move the tool away from the wall, but it cut just fine on the aluminum. Next time I’ll try a roll tap (hahahh). - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
BrowFinGarf its aluminum
Haas Automation, Inc. Hi Mark, love all your videos they are a massive help! How can this be used to restart a program from the middle of a rough turning canned cycles, eg G71?
hi Mark
i try to download HAAS Bonus Content but it go to the main page not to the content. Can u help me. Thanks Mark
Hi Azwan, There is not bonus content for this video. Only videos where Mark says to download the bonus content have downloadable bonus content. Sorry for the confusion.
cnc work is the best . doin more with less effort
I would like to see how the haas control removes the broken tap, repairs any damage, then picks up and continues.
👌
Have an older VF 2 Was showing up on control and switched the serting on No joy cutter plunged into job lucky i only had it on 5% rapid Maybe happened because program was on USB instead of internal memory Can you please confirm it will not work with program on a ,USB
May save someone else dinking their job
¿ that function can only be used if the program is in the memory of the machine if it is in the usb memory can not find the block ?
yup
This should be made clear in video description Just scrapped a job because program was on USB stick
Think if there was an earthquake, I would be more concerned about machine tram than picking up where i left off.
On a more serious note though. Does program restart work with Macros utilizing G-code aliasing?
Anthony - Yes! It does. It’s pretty cool. The control will run through your subprograms, your macro statements, and even your Aliased M and G-Codes before continuing on. It will skip over M00 and M01 though. Thanks for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Mark,
When I use program restart and it rereads through my code, it also recalculates my probing data, which leads to faulty work offsets.
My issue, I am probing the Z face in 4 positions and then setting the average to G55
G65P9811Z13.375Q0.5
#101=#192
G65P9811Z13.375Q0.5
#102=#192
G65P9811Z13.375Q0.5
#103=#192
G65P9811Z13.375Q0.5
#104=#192
5243=[#101+#102+#103+#104]/4
This work great as long as I don't stop the program and restart it while using the "Program Restart" feature. But when I restart the program, "Program Restart" reads through the program and recalculates my probing sequence. The problem is that when it re-reads through the code, #192 is either empty, or it has the last value stored in it (not sure which) and then applies that identical value to all 4 offsets and sets that to my G55.
I really want to retain "Program Restart" but do not know how to get around the issue that is happening.
HELP!
that's perfect... but there's no way to restart the program if your tool is going ramping.
does anybody know if this is also possible with Heidenhain controllers?
Not seen this feature on them
Yes it is possible, and its simpler to use.
I hope this is on the CHC controller.... Off I go to see....
Okay, it's there, but how do I use it? You show a closeup of an N number, but how does it actually get used??
@@henmich you don't even need the line number
For some reason, audio played really low compared to other Haas Tips!
Does this work with a program on a USB stick?
Did not work for me I am on an older VF2
anyone using HAAS ST 30Y lathe let me know how to restart the program in the middle of program. Thanks in advance
The Program Restart Feature is available on current Haas machines with the exception of NGC Lathes and our GM 5-Axis mills. On those machines, the Program Restart feature has been limited for machine safety as some cycles and machine capabilities would conflict. Haas Automation
Is this on all Haas controls?
Les - This feature has been standard, on Haas Mills and Lathes, for a very long time - more than two decades. Check to see if your machine has Setting 36, and give it a try. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
Haas Automation, Inc. Thanks Mark, wish I'd known this last Friday! Oh well now I know👍🏻
The setting 36 seems to be missing on my 2019 ST10. Caused a bar to windmill the back of my lathe because the G50 was missed when I restarted in the middle of the program. Transitioning to the NGC has not been a great experience for me.
@@devind2615 Same story with recently bought ST40 NGC, dose not show setting 36, not shure if there is a chance to unlock it, or it is some thing like bug of controls. For 5 axis mill with NGC bought 2 month later have included setting 36,
I got in touch with my HFO, apparently it is no longer available on the lathe with the next gen controls. Very disappointing. I intend to call the factory next. Perhaps if enough people raise enough stink they can figure out whatever issues they were having with it.
haha I have HAAS ST30Y lathe and I do not have this (36) option
The Program Restart Feature is available on current Haas machines with the exception of NGC Lathes and our GM 5-Axis mills. On those machines, the Program Restart feature has been limited for machine safety as some cycles and machine capabilities would conflict. Haas Automation
Dear Mr.mark:I forget how 'dry run'button is used.
Mark- Someone is stealing your videos including this one. Username "CULEE". Take em down! I would put a link in here but I think TH-cam then requires you to approve the comment. Just search this video's name along with "CULEE". Keep up the great videos. Can't wait for more macros! - Jacob S.
Should be on as default, esp as if you edit a program it will start at your edit point, ideally thought after an edit, memory should auto restart at the top as default.
i hate CAM 700000 lines of code? our machines have 250k memory and we do same kind oarts. manually lol
At least Haas waited to do this video on program restart until they fixed the Next Gen Control so it actually works right and doesn't try to crash when restarting. Now if they would just fix the other stuff wrong with it without screwing it up worse....Next Generation Control is still full of bugs, even well over a year after the 1st release. Run your new Haas at your own risk!!
Hi -Moorepower7 - Sorry to hear you ran into problems. Shoot us your contact info (tod@haascnc.com) and we will work with your dealer to make sure any issues are addressed.
Both myself and the shop owner have been in contact with either applications at the factory or our dealer every day for the last week. Tomorrow will be the 3rd time in 7 working days that a service tech has had to work on this thing. Our dealer and the applications department at the factory have been real good to work with, they are not the problem. The problem is the Next Generation Control software itself still has a lot of bugs in it. When our machine was delivered, we were told that NGC had been in development for 2 years, and we have had our machine for 15 months. So Haas has been working on this control package for over 3 years, and it STILL has problems.I completely understand that something new like this will have teething problems. But I would have thought that after having this machine over a year the software package would be better. Every software update (I think I have had 7 updates since delivery) has fixed a problem or two BUT, every update also screws up a couple things that used to work fine. Every time a tech loads new software it is one step forward and two steps back.Another problem is that NGC software takes a lot of control of settings and parameters that the user had access to on older Haas controls away. One of our service calls last week could have been avoided if Haas didn't lock down the control to the point that a simple parameter change requires a service key and a service tech to complete.
How to return the machine to zero because when the machine is running does not work
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