EDIT - Just noticed there’s some moments where Premiere didn’t export correctly. Very annoying, sorry about that! Hope you guys enjoy the video and let me know if any other Cyberpunk topics you’d like for me to cover!
@@aGuyThatHatesWokeIdelogy I thought he added them to look like actual footage from the corporate wars where it got cut off because there's a war going on. I've seen a lot of lore youtubers occasionally add stuff like that to make it look like segments of their video or narration is actually a part of the universe itself.
what GPU are you using? My game looks nothing like this on my 4060ti between NVIDIA and the gaming situation this days I dont think ill be a gamer much longer. Literally just boght a new system and my games look like dogshit. Ty Nvidia. Ty CD PJ red. Ill be saving my money from now on.
@@sergiohenrique2411 PEBCAK much? Blaming Nvidia and everyone else and overexpecting from a meagre 4060Ti? Did you really think you could go full Pathtracing with it? Do you really think, that this wasnt recorded with maybe even having some effects added or mods like LUTs ENB or Reshade used? And even if not, the 4060Ti is what a 3070? And which version is it you're using, is it just the crappy 8Gig version? Or did you have the bwains and got the 16gig version, as CP2077 especially with RT enabled, uses lots of VRAM and would certainly overpower the 8gig card, either leading to auto reduced details as it overflows into system RAM and losing performance with it or maybe even crashes the game eventually?! So its at best a valid midrange GPU, that could enable you to play CP2077 with RT Ultra setting, using DLSS3 *Quality* (try not to go lower than that) and maybe even add Framegen combined with Nvidia Reflex to it. Look after your settings dude, some auto activate AMD FSR, which you should never use and could make the game look worse, if you can use DLSS! DLSS is vastly superior, especially in FHD or QHD Resolutions, which are the 4060ti's playground, this card is for sure no UHD (falsy marketing blabla called 4K) card. And the other question is: what CPU are u using? This game, as well as some others have very high CPU demands! I'm running this game with an Ryzen 7 5800X3D and 32Gigs of DDR4 3600CL16 and this CPU gets almost fully loaded on each core and thread, powering my RTX 3080 12GB Aorus Master to run this Game with DLSS 3.5 on Quality with active Ray Reconstruction on RT Ultra, with 60-75FPS in QHD Resolution (Dell S2721DGFA) and it pretty much looks like this video, while i'm also using "Nova Lut 2.0" by theCyanideX along with added preem water and preem rain and others by the same author. Pathracing aka "RT Overdrive" would look even better, but this would only run on DLSS performance for me and this introduces a poor picture quality and heavy ghosting, so it's a NoGo and as it cvan even bring a 4090 to its knees, especially in UHD...there is no way you can run it on a 4060Ti either without making some compromises.
If I’m not mistaken, he laid a lot of the groundwork with multiple authors filling in gaps over the years. Not trying to diminish his substantial role in the history of cyberpunk. Just saying it’s not solely his work.
This lore is nuts, there are so many sci-fi stories about corporations conquering smaller countries but never a war between two different corporations.
M Militech and Arasaka? You put them in your eyes. Many of his internal wars caused the decline of NC, pollution and the constant disappearance of people. Takemura is blinded by Saburo’s good treatment.
Didn't this basically happen between fruit companies not too long ago? I'm pretty sure that's where the phrase "banana republic" comes from. And the companies involved are companies we still buy fruit products from now.
Borderlands had something similar of companies waging wars with each other but on a galactic scale. In Borderlands 3, a company called Maliwan had been conducting a "corporate merger" with another company, Atlas. In reality, Maliwan is literally invading an entire planet to wipe out the Atlas mercenaries and gain any Atlas R&D intel to become a bigger company and compete with other major companies. You're literally living through an ongoing corporate war, and there had been others in the past. Unfortunately, there's not much lore about the various corporate wars, and Borderlands focus more on comedy than dystopian compared to Cyberpunk
The idea of a corporate war is so scary. At least in a traditional government vs government war there are things like front lines, mission objectives, and war crimes. If you're not in a government's military or living in the front line area, you've got nothing to worry about. In a corporate war, it's everyone's problem all at once. Every major city in every major country is going to have potential strike teams and potential targets. No frontline, no clear end point, and no rules. Adam Smasher even had collateral damage in his Arasaka contract. A guy stacking cardboard boxes in an Arasaka warehouse has to pack heat and be on the lookout for Militech death squads every day. He might get kidnapped and tortured for intel on his way to work. He might get caught up in a raid while at work. He might get smoked as collateral in a completely unrelated battle while on his lunch break. Nightmare.
And it's not just danger from the enemy, without regulations and workers rights put in place Employees could be forced to do damn near anything in the name of profit no matter how dangerous.
Could you cover The Old Net and the damage Rache Bartmoss did to it? The Old Net is one of those arcane, almost lovecraftian entities that spells doom for many who try to unearth its forgotten knowledge, and I love it.
BARTMOSS simple install into root systems of net 3.0 - specific AI evolution protocols. That's AI Rabbies. That's one part of his "dead heand". Data crash is whole another story - it's fundamental "mother of data corruption exploits" powered by big backdoor of net 3.0. "Zero day" error BARTMOSS obtain root order of net 3.0. He doesn't off his deck when was global update and obtain main Structiral data of protocol systems. He search for backdoor and find it then obtain root main access.
Its incredible how many times, and how bad the corporate wars had to be, for the government to say "Huh, maybe we shall begin to, ya know, govern", and sure, lobbying is surely a problem, but man, at least you have to fake it a bit
I would argue companies build armies and go to war for long term gain and the complete annihilation and dispersal of the enemy companies. Seizing their assets and whatever future plans, idea, and current research on revolutionary tech. You don’t have to pay anyone for copyright laws when their no one alive to accept the payment( unless you find something that says you do 😮) or shotgun signing contracts.
Well alot of countries did, its mentioned that the EU, Soviet Union and China all essentially cracked down heavily on fighting within their borders its only really in the third world like Africa parts of Asia and the Americas were the goverments were to unstable and already barely functioning to intervene. I mean at that point in the timeline the USA was in a near complete state of anarchy with states having seceeded and the federal goverment still recovering after half a dozen coups and counter coups.
I like how Arasaka and Militech thought it was absolutely necessary to make Cape Canaveral and NASA's mission control center a battleground to be destroyed.
we're gonna be heading towards a corporate dystopia either way, it's just gonna look cool like in cyberpunk 2077 or, which is much more likely, it's gonna look boring like the inside of a whole foods market.
@@gergokerekes4550 not really, those are rich business owners exploiting their government connections to obtain resources on the cheap (the Marines being forged mostly in this interventionist role). 2077 world instead has corporations duking it out with each other with their own private armies to weaken the other. You might say they're the same, but there is significant difference. Corporate wars are more like (British) East India Company fighting Dutch East India Company and even then, these respective corporations were still held on a leash by their respective governments and was more another arm of their government than a completely separate entity..
I bet the greatest deal negotiator in that said universes have very high tolerance for shitty events. The kind where a nuclear explosion happens in the background and their first response to it was, "ah, just on schedule."
@@quarkedbutt3957 I see where you’re at. Warhammer has…ALOT of lore. But like most of it is just random and obviously grimdark. Like just dark because why not.
In reality though, most corporations if given the ability, would never wage war. War is not profitable, and is a foolish move unless your forced into it. Even throughout history with corporations that ruled colonies and such, the last thing they want is war. I think its worthy to note that alot of these wars werent genocides or useless wars. They actually had material gain. Fastfoward today, we have men dying in Vietnam, Iraq, Ukraine, and Afghanistan, all over wars waged over ideology. And if it aint ideology, its some vague ass reason that not even the government can coherently define. Is it better to die for actual resources or to incompetence? Id like to think of Google, Exxon, Amazon, and Alibaba ran the world, we would definitely have some rights stripped away. But we would be managed with efficiency unparalleled to anything else. Really we could do some ancap shit if we had a proper union to represent the working class.
@@honkhonk8009wars are extremely profitable, provided you sell weapons. Militech is basically the modern american military-industrial complex if it dropped the facade and merged with the government.
People complain that our world is a clown world. Imagine living in the cyberpunk world itself. These anti woke crybabies wouldn’t last a day or so in night city. Or even in the badlands
Ghost in the Shell, SAC and SAC 2nd gig particularly, seem like the least terrible option to live in, imo. Still, even with the crud they deal with (and reapers) Mass Effects more utopian scifi looks way, way nicer to live in...
Holy shit, this video is very well put together. Had a family member stop and ask if these were actual, real-world events. Really puts things into perspective and helps folks understand how we got the post 4th corporate world.
Its amazing how many parallels there are to our timeline and the Cyberpunk timeline. For example in our universe the Soviet union collapsed while in the CP uni it lived on by reforming itself whereas in the CP universe the Old USA collapsed in the same vein as our timeline soviet union. The First and Second Central American Wars being very clear parallels to Our timelines US involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq and the rise of outsourcing War to Private organizations like Blackwater and Wagner. Whereas in our timeline we had Osama bin laden and 911, in the Cyberpunk timeline they have Johnny silverhand and 2023 AHQ bombing
The AHQ bombing being a spitting Parraell of 911 since the previous world trade center were twin towers and the Old Arasaka HQ pre 2023 were also a twin set
The only clear difference being that instead of Terrorism and Islamic religious fundamentasim its the War on drugs and the gang of four using war to maintain the economy and by the 2020s they don't have to worry about stupid nonsense like pronouns or people identifying as pansexual wolves or idiot parents taking their kids to drag shows. Instead they have to worry about the corporations dominating all life, the collapse of the environment and the standards of living for the average Jane and Joe drop so ya win some ya lose some
Ehhhhh not really. The Central American Wars were written before the U.S. pivoted to the Middle East, and we’re based more on an escalation of Operation Condor into a hot war for US control of the region (remember, the original game was released in 1988) The U.S. crash was more an extreme example of the collaspe of the British Empire at that time and the economic woes of the UK under Thatcher. The economic liberalization of the Soviet Union was already underway under Gorbachev when the game was released, it just wasn’t expected by anyone at that time that the Soviet Union would actually collaspe if it decommunized. It was expected the USSR was to become like China today, still under the communist party and with large state-owned enterprises but with an otherwise free market economy. Silverhand I think was more influenced by the Troubles than any other terrorist event.
One thing though, without US protection, China would've reclaimed Taiwan and annihilated Japan. Although China was rather technologically backward in the 90s, they are ideologically hardcore during that period, and would've gladly accepted the millions of losses.
Something that would’ve been cool is if old gear from the corporate wars ended up in the game and was some OP secret gear you could equip to your character.
Plenty of gear from the 4th corporate way laying around in 2077. Old helmets, vest and uniforms from various companies are in stores and loot drops alongside new stuff. Technically Silverhand's pistol is an artifact from a corporate war.
The most realistic part of the lore is that the CIA would try to undermine half the worlds economy and prosperity just becasue they stopped warmongering with a dying nation and helped them out when they say they had won
Militech gear really just scratches that " It's military gear, but now with more gadgets for your standard troops and we're back around to fielding heavy infantry units rather than just ' Oh, you're our SAW gunner? ... I mean, here's your gun. You get the same body armor as everybody else. ' " - now your SAW gunner is body wrapped with nano-weave body armor, a heavy combat vest with groin cover, thigh pads, knee pads, shin pads and a relatively low tech exosuit ( For the Cyberpunk universe ) that makes that armor weightless and makes that soldier able to hip-fire with that SAW accurately.
after just finishing the edge runner series last night , dis was perfectly timed as always . pls keep up the amazing work n keep making amazing videos 🙏🏽
Why did Silverhand help Militech? I can understand him nuking Arasaka tower to fight against them, but why would he do that if it just benefits another corporation? Did he see Militech as the lesser of two evils?
Probably a mix of "The enemy of my enemy", him being pissed at the whole Altman kidnapping, and maybe because he might see Militech as an easier opponent to deal later. That, and they probably told him about the nuke, and he went "You son of a b-tch, I'm in"
@@strikeforce1500 I'm like 99% certain that it was the second one. Johnny heard "drop a nuke on Arasaka" and his eyes lit up. That, and, well... Johnny wasn't the brightest fellow. He wasn't exactly aware of how he was being used. Alt saw that they were both being used by the corps, and I think Rogue and Spider might have seen it too. Rogue just decided to play ball with them, but Alt and Spider tried to find a way out for both of them and Johnny.
Johnny's memory isn't reliable. It's been stated many, many times that Morgan Blackhand was the one to drop the bomb on Arasaka tower. Silverhand was apart of the operation, but not the one who finished Arasaka.
Well, Militech probably had a hand in it. Silverhand in the game and Silverhand in the actual lore are two very different people. First, 50 years of pent up narcissism created his interpretation of the events to be much more self-centered. To the point that he just forgets the most important pieces of the puzzle; Morgan Blackhand and Militech (And Alt). During the Fourth Corporate War, Militech in its infinite wisdom lacked the well-trained fighting force that Arasaka had at its disposal (Arasaka could tap into gangs it funded for troops and even pull forces from the JSDF. Militech couldn't do the same even with its ties to the US Government.) So, Militech had a massive campaign to hire Edgerunners of different varieties. That created the situation where Militech hires (the greatest Solo) Morgan Blackhand, who then hires Silverhand (a military veteran who had already infiltrated Arasaka once). Johnny didn't give a shit about Militech at all. The only reasons he took the job was because of Morgan Blackhand offering the job and the slightest possibility to find Alt Cunningham. At the time he still believed he could find her there. I'd have to brush up on my sourcebooks but the chances of that happening were pretty much zero.
It's a future that is so authentic in it's presentation it drove millions to seeking solace, watching the demolition sequence at the end of Fight Club on a loop. This species consistently forgets the shackled ball of irony we're cursed/blessed to drag with it.
Actually watched a video of guy talking about how Corporations and very wealthy people will slowly become more aggressive creating military that rival countries and driving a market for mercenarys,, it has actually happened in several countries
the odd part about cyberpunk is that armies dont produce anything and just a complete financial drain that you shovel money into, why any corporation would ever want to create an army would be complete opposite of a corporations objective of making money.
From what I understand, Arasaka and Militech are end-to-end military companies. Countries in the Cyberpunk world likely outsource their military/security matters to these companies so they can focus on governing. For these corporations, they’re likely accepting contracts at a price that would allow them to be profitable while fighting other people’s battles. War is bad for business, unless war is your business
A real life example of a company having a military would be the east india company, who at their peak had a military force that rivaled the british empire. Corpos Having a military makes sense if we live in a dystopia where corporations had very little consequences to their actions so they could just invade and subjugate entire populations to use. Arasaka gained Night City through a show of force after all.
Not really. A private army would let them protect assets, "acquire" assets, offer services, and literally destroy competitors. There is even a historical precedent in the East India companies of Britain and the Netherlands, and the King Leopold's ownership of the Congo Free State come to mind.
lol while your heart is in the right place, and i'm sure it made sense in your head once you brought up finances; but this was a bad take. Massive corporations often depend on private military companies, and or their own security forces to protect assets while out at sea. Piracy is a real thing, and massive. Like.. Pepsi had an entire naval fleet because of how bad piracy is.
Well it would start with a business needing security for their assets, also sly as the threat increases they need to increase security. Eventually it becomes a military in everything but name. They may look like the army but their job is the same: the protection of corporate assets.
I haven't seen any videos in the community about the state of the UK. I know some megacorp took over and declared martial law, but I know nothing else. I think it was covered in a CP2020 sourcebook called like "Rough Guide to the U.K." or something like that. There might be stuff in the Eurosource Plus book for it too.
In game one of the news stations does a brief report on the UK but it was mostly about the conflict between the Nomads and the people who live in cities getting worse. More than likely everything outside of corporate control has collapsed into anarchy.
@TheSsandman472 Amazon is nowhere near the stage of becoming a global military superpower, but they're not really that behind Tesla in that regard. War, if nothing else, is an exercise in logistics, to feed, clothe, supply thousands of soldiers is extremely complex task that a car company which struggles to establish service centers would not be able to perform. Amazon is arguably the best company in the world for logitstics performance, they have one of the largest cargo plane fleets and they can deliver inside much of the US inside 1-2 days. It'd be much easier to crank out a competent army from this than Tesla.
Yo thank you for this!! The game has so many little touches and tiny bits of lore here and there; I found myself growing more and more curious how the world in the game got to the state it is. This video does a great job at laying it all out, thanks again!
Preem Love the cyberpunk setting so much, luckily got the game on sale and late so my experience wasn't tainted as much I think. Videos and chooms like you is what keeps these setting alive and kicking, good stuff wisefish
“The collapse” literally just sounds like “what if the rest of the world treated america like how it does it’s so-called ‘rogue countries’ in real life?”
So I've recently started playing CP2077, and I have fallen in love with the lore and Night City. These videos are such a great watch to learn about all the interesting sights and scenes. Thanks.
This is a great video doing a lot of lore build that I wish was done better in the game, but or those who only just started playing the game, I'd say real spoilers for the actual main storyline start around 21:31
Man I gotta say after getting the 100% for Cyberpunk, I still can’t get enough I’m so happy this channel and many others exist to deliver us with more juicy Cyberpunk content while we wait for Orion I gotta say tho man…these videos are also prepping me For when I do it all again when I get a PC 😂😂😭
Corporations are powerful for sure, but they're nowhere near the stage of wielding private military forces to attack their rivals. People point out Blackwater, but they're explicitly a mercenary group for the express purpose of war against insurgent forces. The US government will heavily restrict their usage to their own national security. Amazon can't just hire Blackwater to nuke Ebay headquarters. It's a warning story for sure, but our world has a very long way to go before we reach that stage.
Yeah the Fall itself probably needs to be covered. The stories about it like one character from an NPC splatbook being a minor celebrity because she was on the cover of a magazine standing outside the ruins of her NJ suburban home armed with a holdout pistol....at 6 years old just gives you a glimpse of how horrible it was.
Watching your videos has inspired me to pick up a copy of Cyberpunk Red. It may be a while before I can find some people to play a game with, but I look forward to diving deeper into the lore on my own!
Absolutely fantastic video!!! The one thing I would love to see in these videos is a quick note saying where in the timeline Cyberpunk 2020, Red, and 2077 take place (I wasn't sure when you got to 2045 when watching this video)
I was laughing while listening the 9:35 oil platform explosion story, didn't someone no-one knows who [NUSA?] blow up Russian - Germany Nord Stream pipeline just tiny bit a go : D
I’m discovering these after finishing edgerunners and dude the lore is fucking insane holy shit I actually went on a binge of your lore videos and my god is the cyberpunk universe amazing in terms of story and not living in it 💀
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Yeah it didn't render, but we're all glad you made it any way. "Like" Thumb given.
Wait, are those the Media Offline segments? I thought they were intentional haha
@@aGuyThatHatesWokeIdelogy I thought he added them to look like actual footage from the corporate wars where it got cut off because there's a war going on.
I've seen a lot of lore youtubers occasionally add stuff like that to make it look like segments of their video or narration is actually a part of the universe itself.
what GPU are you using? My game looks nothing like this on my 4060ti between NVIDIA and the gaming situation this days I dont think ill be a gamer much longer. Literally just boght a new system and my games look like dogshit. Ty Nvidia. Ty CD PJ red. Ill be saving my money from now on.
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PEBCAK much?
Blaming Nvidia and everyone else and overexpecting from a meagre 4060Ti?
Did you really think you could go full Pathtracing with it?
Do you really think, that this wasnt recorded with maybe even having some effects added or mods like LUTs ENB or Reshade used?
And even if not, the 4060Ti is what a 3070?
And which version is it you're using, is it just the crappy 8Gig version?
Or did you have the bwains and got the 16gig version, as CP2077 especially with RT enabled, uses lots of VRAM and would certainly overpower the 8gig card, either leading to auto reduced details as it overflows into system RAM and losing performance with it or maybe even crashes the game eventually?!
So its at best a valid midrange GPU, that could enable you to play CP2077 with RT Ultra setting, using DLSS3 *Quality* (try not to go lower than that) and maybe even add Framegen combined with Nvidia Reflex to it.
Look after your settings dude, some auto activate AMD FSR, which you should never use and could make the game look worse, if you can use DLSS!
DLSS is vastly superior, especially in FHD or QHD Resolutions, which are the 4060ti's playground, this card is for sure no UHD (falsy marketing blabla called 4K) card.
And the other question is: what CPU are u using?
This game, as well as some others have very high CPU demands!
I'm running this game with an Ryzen 7 5800X3D and 32Gigs of DDR4 3600CL16 and this CPU gets almost fully loaded on each core and thread, powering my RTX 3080 12GB Aorus Master to run this Game with DLSS 3.5 on Quality with active Ray Reconstruction on RT Ultra, with 60-75FPS in QHD Resolution (Dell S2721DGFA) and it pretty much looks like this video, while i'm also using "Nova Lut 2.0" by theCyanideX along with added preem water and preem rain and others by the same author.
Pathracing aka "RT Overdrive" would look even better, but this would only run on DLSS performance for me and this introduces a poor picture quality and heavy ghosting,
so it's a NoGo and as it cvan even bring a 4090 to its knees, especially in UHD...there is no way you can run it on a 4060Ti either without making some compromises.
And Mike Pondsmith wrote all this? Genius pure genius! He really made gold from the Cyberpunk universe.
Not gonna lie, pretty sure he’s actually a time traveler, or a visitor for another dimension merely telling their story 😂
Had quite the free time
If I’m not mistaken, he laid a lot of the groundwork with multiple authors filling in gaps over the years. Not trying to diminish his substantial role in the history of cyberpunk. Just saying it’s not solely his work.
The truly scary thing is how plausible the world of Cyberpunk is. It's the same but different.
@@BrandonJXN2 its what im thinking. Maybe minus the tech, but the power shift and capitalism being unchecked.
This lore is nuts, there are so many sci-fi stories about corporations conquering smaller countries but never a war between two different corporations.
M Militech and Arasaka? You put them in your eyes. Many of his internal wars caused the decline of NC, pollution and the constant disappearance of people. Takemura is blinded by Saburo’s good treatment.
What about team fortress
armored core pretty much lmao
Didn't this basically happen between fruit companies not too long ago? I'm pretty sure that's where the phrase "banana republic" comes from. And the companies involved are companies we still buy fruit products from now.
Borderlands had something similar of companies waging wars with each other but on a galactic scale. In Borderlands 3, a company called Maliwan had been conducting a "corporate merger" with another company, Atlas. In reality, Maliwan is literally invading an entire planet to wipe out the Atlas mercenaries and gain any Atlas R&D intel to become a bigger company and compete with other major companies. You're literally living through an ongoing corporate war, and there had been others in the past. Unfortunately, there's not much lore about the various corporate wars, and Borderlands focus more on comedy than dystopian compared to Cyberpunk
The idea of a corporate war is so scary. At least in a traditional government vs government war there are things like front lines, mission objectives, and war crimes. If you're not in a government's military or living in the front line area, you've got nothing to worry about. In a corporate war, it's everyone's problem all at once. Every major city in every major country is going to have potential strike teams and potential targets. No frontline, no clear end point, and no rules. Adam Smasher even had collateral damage in his Arasaka contract.
A guy stacking cardboard boxes in an Arasaka warehouse has to pack heat and be on the lookout for Militech death squads every day. He might get kidnapped and tortured for intel on his way to work. He might get caught up in a raid while at work. He might get smoked as collateral in a completely unrelated battle while on his lunch break.
Nightmare.
And it's not just danger from the enemy, without regulations and workers rights put in place Employees could be forced to do damn near anything in the name of profit no matter how dangerous.
the 1st corporate war was basically a regular nation vs nation war, just started by corporations
@@ajax9683 Not so different from our real wars then
@AlliedMastercomputer_AM The Iraq war
POV: Your a student in 2077 getting ready for a history exam
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Who's ready for tomorrow?
Could you cover The Old Net and the damage Rache Bartmoss did to it? The Old Net is one of those arcane, almost lovecraftian entities that spells doom for many who try to unearth its forgotten knowledge, and I love it.
Yeah the old net seems really interesting. The whole rogue AI & all that
Yeaaaaaah
Really it's probably just poor unfortunate souls coming across a site backup of FurAffinity
Cyberpunk 2013 (1st Edition) gives you the insight you seek.
BARTMOSS simple install into root systems of net 3.0 - specific AI evolution protocols. That's AI Rabbies.
That's one part of his "dead heand".
Data crash is whole another story - it's fundamental "mother of data corruption exploits" powered by big backdoor of net 3.0.
"Zero day" error BARTMOSS obtain root order of net 3.0.
He doesn't off his deck when was global update and obtain main Structiral data of protocol systems.
He search for backdoor and find it then obtain root main access.
Its incredible how many times, and how bad the corporate wars had to be, for the government to say "Huh, maybe we shall begin to, ya know, govern", and sure, lobbying is surely a problem, but man, at least you have to fake it a bit
I would argue companies build armies and go to war for long term gain and the complete annihilation and dispersal of the enemy companies. Seizing their assets and whatever future plans, idea, and current research on revolutionary tech. You don’t have to pay anyone for copyright laws when their no one alive to accept the payment( unless you find something that says you do 😮) or shotgun signing contracts.
Well alot of countries did, its mentioned that the EU, Soviet Union and China all essentially cracked down heavily on fighting within their borders its only really in the third world like Africa parts of Asia and the Americas were the goverments were to unstable and already barely functioning to intervene. I mean at that point in the timeline the USA was in a near complete state of anarchy with states having seceeded and the federal goverment still recovering after half a dozen coups and counter coups.
Fiction mirrors reality.
Capitalism and the corruption gives a shit about wars and the dead’s of civilian people. You can already know it because of the Ucrania vs Russia war.
@@dantrog Exactly. This is a socio-political criticism that reflects what will happen to us if we continue to allow governors as mediocre as them.
I like how Arasaka and Militech thought it was absolutely necessary to make Cape Canaveral and NASA's mission control center a battleground to be destroyed.
Mike Pondsmith: “I created cyberpunk as a warning not an aspiration”
Earth: “bet. New guide just dropped”
we're gonna be heading towards a corporate dystopia either way, it's just gonna look cool like in cyberpunk 2077 or, which is much more likely, it's gonna look boring like the inside of a whole foods market.
@@wontonschannelit kinda looks cool if you like the grimey feel of big American cities like LA Austin and New York
@@wontonschannel I hate this reality so much. All the negatives of a corporate dystopia and none of the neon
Cringe
There is nothing cringe, maybe the person who is cringe is you@@kingt0295
What makes this universe so interesting to me is how it’s honestly something that could have actually happened
becouse it actually did.
look into the banana republics, countries that had their infrastructure built by doyle and united fruit company.
Could have? More like will eventually.
All I want is some new knees and a new left eye, a wee bit of chrome
@@gergokerekes4550 not really, those are rich business owners exploiting their government connections to obtain resources on the cheap (the Marines being forged mostly in this interventionist role). 2077 world instead has corporations duking it out with each other with their own private armies to weaken the other. You might say they're the same, but there is significant difference.
Corporate wars are more like (British) East India Company fighting Dutch East India Company and even then, these respective corporations were still held on a leash by their respective governments and was more another arm of their government than a completely separate entity..
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022either way that's the direction we're heading.
Being a deal negotiator in the cyberpunk universe must have been quite the job
Seems like a great way to get yourself shot.
Fixers are going to fix.
@@VidelxSpopovichMore like a spectacular way
I bet the greatest deal negotiator in that said universes have very high tolerance for shitty events. The kind where a nuclear explosion happens in the background and their first response to it was, "ah, just on schedule."
imagine diving in the old net and all you find is shitposts amd deadmemes
The lore of cyberpunk, elder scrolls and assassin’s creed is the reason those are my favorite franchises ever not only in gaming but in general.
Have you fallen into the rabbit hole that is Warhammer 40,000 yet?
@@quarkedbutt3957 I see where you’re at. Warhammer has…ALOT of lore. But like most of it is just random and obviously grimdark. Like just dark because why not.
@@Sydlxia Want something more light hearted? I can then recommend the Gav And Bob stories voiced by "A Vox in the Void". That shit made me cry.
@@quarkedbutt3957
You mean the Dune knock-off? 😏
@@LordofSyn yeah, I noticed that but I love both series
The turf wars of the corporate "gangs"are a great lesson of how destructive corporations can be. Great video!
In reality though, most corporations if given the ability, would never wage war. War is not profitable, and is a foolish move unless your forced into it.
Even throughout history with corporations that ruled colonies and such, the last thing they want is war.
I think its worthy to note that alot of these wars werent genocides or useless wars. They actually had material gain.
Fastfoward today, we have men dying in Vietnam, Iraq, Ukraine, and Afghanistan, all over wars waged over ideology. And if it aint ideology, its some vague ass reason that not even the government can coherently define.
Is it better to die for actual resources or to incompetence?
Id like to think of Google, Exxon, Amazon, and Alibaba ran the world, we would definitely have some rights stripped away.
But we would be managed with efficiency unparalleled to anything else.
Really we could do some ancap shit if we had a proper union to represent the working class.
@@honkhonk8009wars are extremely profitable, provided you sell weapons. Militech is basically the modern american military-industrial complex if it dropped the facade and merged with the government.
@@jazaniac This is called Fascism, emphasis on last bit about dropping the facade.
East India Company Tactics seem to work
Easy?🤔
@@lil__shmeat it was pretty easy for them wasn't it?
weeb
@akramgimmini8165 you should look at the flag for the USA and the East Indian Trading company
Great work as always. Man it must suck to live in the Cyberpunk world.
People complain that our world is a clown world. Imagine living in the cyberpunk world itself. These anti woke crybabies wouldn’t last a day or so in night city. Or even in the badlands
No if you're not in the US apparently.
@@elperrodelautumo7511 millions if not billions will die
Ghost in the Shell, SAC and SAC 2nd gig particularly, seem like the least terrible option to live in, imo.
Still, even with the crud they deal with (and reapers) Mass Effects more utopian scifi looks way, way nicer to live in...
On the one hand, yes, but on the other hand, no.
Holy shit, this video is very well put together. Had a family member stop and ask if these were actual, real-world events. Really puts things into perspective and helps folks understand how we got the post 4th corporate world.
These cyberpunk lore videos are great so much depth to the world, keep em coming
Incredible detail into the politics of these corporations and their wars against each other. Fantastic video. Well played!
Its amazing how many parallels there are to our timeline and the Cyberpunk timeline. For example in our universe the Soviet union collapsed while in the CP uni it lived on by reforming itself whereas in the CP universe the Old USA collapsed in the same vein as our timeline soviet union. The First and Second Central American Wars being very clear parallels to Our timelines US involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq and the rise of outsourcing War to Private organizations like Blackwater and Wagner. Whereas in our timeline we had Osama bin laden and 911, in the Cyberpunk timeline they have Johnny silverhand and 2023 AHQ bombing
The AHQ bombing being a spitting Parraell of 911 since the previous world trade center were twin towers and the Old Arasaka HQ pre 2023 were also a twin set
The only clear difference being that instead of Terrorism and Islamic religious fundamentasim its the War on drugs and the gang of four using war to maintain the economy and by the 2020s they don't have to worry about stupid nonsense like pronouns or people identifying as pansexual wolves or idiot parents taking their kids to drag shows. Instead they have to worry about the corporations dominating all life, the collapse of the environment and the standards of living for the average Jane and Joe drop so ya win some ya lose some
The US did cause lots of wars in Central America in the 80's.
Ehhhhh not really. The Central American Wars were written before the U.S. pivoted to the Middle East, and we’re based more on an escalation of Operation Condor into a hot war for US control of the region (remember, the original game was released in 1988) The U.S. crash was more an extreme example of the collaspe of the British Empire at that time and the economic woes of the UK under Thatcher. The economic liberalization of the Soviet Union was already underway under Gorbachev when the game was released, it just wasn’t expected by anyone at that time that the Soviet Union would actually collaspe if it decommunized. It was expected the USSR was to become like China today, still under the communist party and with large state-owned enterprises but with an otherwise free market economy.
Silverhand I think was more influenced by the Troubles than any other terrorist event.
One thing though, without US protection, China would've reclaimed Taiwan and annihilated Japan. Although China was rather technologically backward in the 90s, they are ideologically hardcore during that period, and would've gladly accepted the millions of losses.
All respects to Mike Pondsmith, this dude literally created a Cyberpunk lore from his own head.
Such a great videos and this allowed me to understand the corpo wars much more than I did previously.
Something that would’ve been cool is if old gear from the corporate wars ended up in the game and was some OP secret gear you could equip to your character.
Plenty of gear from the 4th corporate way laying around in 2077. Old helmets, vest and uniforms from various companies are in stores and loot drops alongside new stuff. Technically Silverhand's pistol is an artifact from a corporate war.
The most realistic part of the lore is that the CIA would try to undermine half the worlds economy and prosperity just becasue they stopped warmongering with a dying nation and helped them out when they say they had won
That’s the most unrealistic part but nice try
@@The_king567that’s legit what goes on in todays world lmao
@@javierdejesus2420 that has literally never happened but nice try crazy how delusional you people are
@@The_king567 it is public knowledge at this point why do you think cyberpunk lore even reference it..... how ignorant are you
@@The_king567 actually braindead
Militech gear really just scratches that " It's military gear, but now with more gadgets for your standard troops and we're back around to fielding heavy infantry units rather than just ' Oh, you're our SAW gunner? ... I mean, here's your gun. You get the same body armor as everybody else. ' " - now your SAW gunner is body wrapped with nano-weave body armor, a heavy combat vest with groin cover, thigh pads, knee pads, shin pads and a relatively low tech exosuit ( For the Cyberpunk universe ) that makes that armor weightless and makes that soldier able to hip-fire with that SAW accurately.
so no matter in which universe, 2022 always won't be a good year ain't it?
after just finishing the edge runner series last night , dis was perfectly timed as always . pls keep up the amazing work n keep making amazing videos 🙏🏽
You need to get Panam’s ending and that Edgerunners pain will no longer exist.
@@TipoIrritable why?
Why did Silverhand help Militech? I can understand him nuking Arasaka tower to fight against them, but why would he do that if it just benefits another corporation? Did he see Militech as the lesser of two evils?
Probably a mix of "The enemy of my enemy", him being pissed at the whole Altman kidnapping, and maybe because he might see Militech as an easier opponent to deal later.
That, and they probably told him about the nuke, and he went "You son of a b-tch, I'm in"
@@strikeforce1500 I'm like 99% certain that it was the second one. Johnny heard "drop a nuke on Arasaka" and his eyes lit up.
That, and, well... Johnny wasn't the brightest fellow. He wasn't exactly aware of how he was being used. Alt saw that they were both being used by the corps, and I think Rogue and Spider might have seen it too. Rogue just decided to play ball with them, but Alt and Spider tried to find a way out for both of them and Johnny.
Johnny's memory isn't reliable. It's been stated many, many times that Morgan Blackhand was the one to drop the bomb on Arasaka tower. Silverhand was apart of the operation, but not the one who finished Arasaka.
Well, Militech probably had a hand in it. Silverhand in the game and Silverhand in the actual lore are two very different people. First, 50 years of pent up narcissism created his interpretation of the events to be much more self-centered. To the point that he just forgets the most important pieces of the puzzle; Morgan Blackhand and Militech (And Alt).
During the Fourth Corporate War, Militech in its infinite wisdom lacked the well-trained fighting force that Arasaka had at its disposal (Arasaka could tap into gangs it funded for troops and even pull forces from the JSDF. Militech couldn't do the same even with its ties to the US Government.) So, Militech had a massive campaign to hire Edgerunners of different varieties. That created the situation where Militech hires (the greatest Solo) Morgan Blackhand, who then hires Silverhand (a military veteran who had already infiltrated Arasaka once).
Johnny didn't give a shit about Militech at all. The only reasons he took the job was because of Morgan Blackhand offering the job and the slightest possibility to find Alt Cunningham. At the time he still believed he could find her there. I'd have to brush up on my sourcebooks but the chances of that happening were pretty much zero.
He didn't know, he was recruited by Morgan Blackhand who was working with militech and didn't say anything to johnny
The editing and shots are so damn great in this. Some lore vids are just a flat screen and nothing going on but these really keep my emgaged
Hell yeah. More cyberpunk!
I almost don't want to banish you to the warp after that comment
It's a future that is so authentic in it's presentation it drove millions to seeking solace, watching the demolition sequence at the end of Fight Club on a loop.
This species consistently forgets the shackled ball of irony we're cursed/blessed to drag with it.
Actually watched a video of guy talking about how Corporations and very wealthy people will slowly become more aggressive creating military that rival countries and driving a market for mercenarys,, it has actually happened in several countries
the odd part about cyberpunk is that armies dont produce anything and just a complete financial drain that you shovel money into, why any corporation would ever want to create an army would be complete opposite of a corporations objective of making money.
From what I understand, Arasaka and Militech are end-to-end military companies. Countries in the Cyberpunk world likely outsource their military/security matters to these companies so they can focus on governing. For these corporations, they’re likely accepting contracts at a price that would allow them to be profitable while fighting other people’s battles. War is bad for business, unless war is your business
A real life example of a company having a military would be the east india company, who at their peak had a military force that rivaled the british empire. Corpos Having a military makes sense if we live in a dystopia where corporations had very little consequences to their actions so they could just invade and subjugate entire populations to use. Arasaka gained Night City through a show of force after all.
Not really. A private army would let them protect assets, "acquire" assets, offer services, and literally destroy competitors. There is even a historical precedent in the East India companies of Britain and the Netherlands, and the King Leopold's ownership of the Congo Free State come to mind.
lol while your heart is in the right place, and i'm sure it made sense in your head once you brought up finances; but this was a bad take. Massive corporations often depend on private military companies, and or their own security forces to protect assets while out at sea. Piracy is a real thing, and massive. Like.. Pepsi had an entire naval fleet because of how bad piracy is.
Well it would start with a business needing security for their assets, also sly as the threat increases they need to increase security.
Eventually it becomes a military in everything but name.
They may look like the army but their job is the same: the protection of corporate assets.
I love the idea of normal people living on their own out in the boonies in the world.
I haven't seen any videos in the community about the state of the UK. I know some megacorp took over and declared martial law, but I know nothing else. I think it was covered in a CP2020 sourcebook called like "Rough Guide to the U.K." or something like that. There might be stuff in the Eurosource Plus book for it too.
In game one of the news stations does a brief report on the UK but it was mostly about the conflict between the Nomads and the people who live in cities getting worse. More than likely everything outside of corporate control has collapsed into anarchy.
Could you imagine if Tesla and Amazon went to war against each other?
@TheSsandman472 Amazon is nowhere near the stage of becoming a global military superpower, but they're not really that behind Tesla in that regard. War, if nothing else, is an exercise in logistics, to feed, clothe, supply thousands of soldiers is extremely complex task that a car company which struggles to establish service centers would not be able to perform. Amazon is arguably the best company in the world for logitstics performance, they have one of the largest cargo plane fleets and they can deliver inside much of the US inside 1-2 days.
It'd be much easier to crank out a competent army from this than Tesla.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022all that military training, but still no bathroom breaks, cmon Jeff all cock but no balls
Yo thank you for this!! The game has so many little touches and tiny bits of lore here and there; I found myself growing more and more curious how the world in the game got to the state it is. This video does a great job at laying it all out, thanks again!
This is great timing with how edge runners turned out and how well it’s still doing
I love how Mike pondsmith includes actual real life corps in his lore. Such as TWA for example
Meanwhile at Biotechnica: "Wow... that war stuff is wild."
Here’s your synthetic meat now with 1% less plastic cause we are nice
Preem
Love the cyberpunk setting so much, luckily got the game on sale and late so my experience wasn't tainted as much I think. Videos and chooms like you is what keeps these setting alive and kicking, good stuff wisefish
ever since gangs of night city i been waiting for this thanks wisefish
“The collapse” literally just sounds like “what if the rest of the world treated america like how it does it’s so-called ‘rogue countries’ in real life?”
Indeed
That day is approaching, hemorrhaging.
You know that’s not true at all
@@cjthebeeskneesit’s not
So I've recently started playing CP2077, and I have fallen in love with the lore and Night City. These videos are such a great watch to learn about all the interesting sights and scenes. Thanks.
love your Cyberpunk lore videos helps me build my Rpg lore and word :)
this video was sponsored by Militech
Nice another video on cyberpunk lore👍🏽
Thank you for getting me back into the game pls pls pls keep up the great work!
Love these videos! Thanks for continuing to do them
11:21 lol blackscreen
This is a great video doing a lot of lore build that I wish was done better in the game, but or those who only just started playing the game, I'd say real spoilers for the actual main storyline start around 21:31
Tbf this is decades of tabletop lore crunched into a half hour video, it's hard to work all of it naturally into a single game
Damn, even the space stations went rogue.
Probably should destroy them, I mean they have the ability to do orbital bombardments on earth.
yes!! keep it up chooms love all the cyberpunk lore
Man I gotta say after getting the 100% for Cyberpunk, I still can’t get enough
I’m so happy this channel and many others exist to deliver us with more juicy Cyberpunk content while we wait for Orion
I gotta say tho man…these videos are also prepping me
For when I do it all again when I get a PC 😂😂😭
Great video do you have any plans to cover the lore of the nomad clans cause they are my favorite part of the cyberpunk lore.
Indeed I do! Going to cover all of them in the future
This is, to me, the most interesting part of the Cyberpunk universe
Man this game is a gem 💎
A gem that was bad when found but slowly looked better
Man, the more I learn about the Cyberpunk universe the more parallels I see with it and our real world😬
I was thinking about the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipeline.
Corporations are powerful for sure, but they're nowhere near the stage of wielding private military forces to attack their rivals. People point out Blackwater, but they're explicitly a mercenary group for the express purpose of war against insurgent forces. The US government will heavily restrict their usage to their own national security. Amazon can't just hire Blackwater to nuke Ebay headquarters.
It's a warning story for sure, but our world has a very long way to go before we reach that stage.
Very well done, thanks for putting this together!👏👏👏👏
When I think about the Corporate Wars if Cyberpunk, I think about Syndicate. These two worlds would do well together in my opinion.
Euro Corp vs Militech?
Aspari vs Arasaka?
Really good content I appreciate the timing of the adds 👍
Yeah the Fall itself probably needs to be covered. The stories about it like one character from an NPC splatbook being a minor celebrity because she was on the cover of a magazine standing outside the ruins of her NJ suburban home armed with a holdout pistol....at 6 years old just gives you a glimpse of how horrible it was.
Watching your videos has inspired me to pick up a copy of Cyberpunk Red. It may be a while before I can find some people to play a game with, but I look forward to diving deeper into the lore on my own!
4:45 video on cyberpunk 2077 has bugs as well. :) but now i wanna buy it cause of your synopsis
Anyone else having the hardest time believing a post ww2 Europe became an economic superpower during the Cold War??
me when he talked about the elderly moving into relatives homes ' PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS!!!!! '
Yes! More cyberpunk lore!!!
Dude! Your content is great! I am voracious for the data but don’t want to gather it for myself
Many thanks choom!
So the crash of '94 is pretty much nowadays Argentina. Got it.
Another lovely video. Keep up the good work!
glad you did this my friend
I love how the catalyst for all this is just, "Oh, we can wage actual war." and then absolute chaos.
Absolutely fantastic video!!! The one thing I would love to see in these videos is a quick note saying where in the timeline Cyberpunk 2020, Red, and 2077 take place (I wasn't sure when you got to 2045 when watching this video)
I love the 'Help me celebrate' sign! Sadly, there is never someone near it looking for change...
I was laughing while listening the 9:35 oil platform explosion story, didn't someone no-one knows who [NUSA?] blow up Russian - Germany Nord Stream pipeline just tiny bit a go : D
Nice and concise, awesome vid, thanks choom!
This was great man, thanks for the explainer! Keep up the good work and God bless you :)
literally the only thing mike pondsmith got wrong was the time frame
And to think, many of these events in Cyberpunk lore are actually playable settings spread across multiple modules.
For some reason the screen goes black in certain parts of the video, Just want to let you know.🐱
Oh really?? Completely blank or red screen?
@@WiseFish yeah in 24:52 it’s a black screen for a bit.😺
Damn it I have no idea why it was there when I exported lol
@@WiseFish there’s also another one in 11:23.🐱
Amazing video, well done!
The workers' uprising in the space stations is nothing short of sweet justice proper against an oppressive system.
I need you please to talk about Cyberpunk finales and their simbolic meaning. (Especially the Panam’s ending)
I’m discovering these after finishing edgerunners and dude the lore is fucking insane holy shit I actually went on a binge of your lore videos and my god is the cyberpunk universe amazing in terms of story and not living in it 💀
"In Brazil, Militech would turn the city of Rio de Janeiro into ruble"
Im from Rio de Janeiro state, and I have 2 words: "Thank you"
Why is the Corp War lore so intriguing to me IDK, but I love it.
I’d love to see you do the entire lore cyberpunk of the cyberpunk universe. With the new DLC out that adds to much
A big honkin' space gun called "The O'Neil 2" you say? That's definitely a nod to Jack O'Neil from Stargate SG-1 if I ever heard one.
Dole and other plantation companies overthrew Hawaiian Government. so corporations doing this isnt so crazy of a concept
within 20 years Apple, Google, Microsoft and Meta will be destroying cities as they fight for monopoly in Big Tech 😂
I allready see the Microsoft Sony war
Love your videos, always pleased to see you do more cyberpunk videos
Awesome video!
Amazon: where are google’s headquarters….
Because this is what people craves. Corporate number chrushing and red tape.
no spoilers plz but what is this part from? 26:16
@@0condolences you can’t ask what it is and then say “no spoilers”
It’s one of the endings.
These wars seem to be plentiful, maybe Oreo and Lays had a war over snack isles
Hey, I see you missed a clip at 4:44 my guy. Still, nice work.
Time to sub currently immersed in night city need some lore
Great video!!
militechs founder reminds me of faraday