@@tobor88 I wasn’t able to redownload the save but I tried the battle again and won, took more damage than legend though. Beat up the brettonians and dwarves pretty easily and now the sisters are role playing a horde razing rich cities to the north while a tree defends the oak and another tree beats up some elves
Enjoyed the eventual realisation that it was a 'This is a Total War' campaign whilst being flummoxed at the precarious position the player had put themselves in.
I was wondering why in the hell someone was seemingly coming in as a reinforcement. Nah, he’s just scouting ahead with the “decisive victory” mentality. 😂 “I’ll scout ahead and start a camp fire, y’all take care of those woodies!”
Coming up in TW-WH3: If your army has at least 70% ranged units you can activate "LoTW-Cheesegod" switch for autoresolve, no matter the BoP, you win with minimal losses.
Haha considering recent Legends record in dealing with Wood Elves sending him disaster battles involving them could be considered low effort trolling. Also ambush battles gave me PTSD ever since Ikit dropped 3 nukes on my Empire army from his ambush.
@@ragoth6207 After I watched this video I have to say I was kind of impressed with Legend who just did all those battles efficiently out of habit and then was engaged after again. Had he not been as efficient it would end up as a true disaster but yeah few more of these and worlds wood elves will start giving him mental health issues haha.
@@notafilmmajor6159 Yeah it became apparent later in the video that this wasn't planed. You couldn't have known that there will be three battles in a row since you didn't know how to macro the first one and this was on legendary. It's more like the timing made it kind of funny as I said above you gotta hand it to Legend how efficiently he dealt with that situation.
Oh shoot, yeah a This is Total War for them would be pretty hellish because you immediately go to war with all the boys around the Oak of Ages right off the bat.
This is my campaign and yep. I abandoned it right away, and only like 10 turns ago took the worldroots back and took it over once the sisters were leveled. I have never fought more battles in less time
I always make sure the high elves are friendly towards me. I even help out Alith Anar since settlements aren’t worth a whole lot. I’d rather have my “allies” holding them.
Volleys of Kornous are just dirty. Plain dirty. Dirty damage, dirty range. Get four Eagle Riders, that will delete the equivalent of two units with every use of their Volleys easily. All of my last battles versus the Wood Elves were auto resolved, I just can't deal with that crap :D
The hawk riders are chasing Alith Anar at ×4 time speed, me looking at the heroes: Heal them. 20 winds, plenty for earth blood. Wait the video last 15 more minutes... They are going to attack you again! Heal! > gets attack again twice: I f*cking knew it xD In my current campaign Nagarythe destroyed the Heralds of Ariel, seems he is the best lord suited for the job
@@404Dannyboy I dunno, maybe not for map painting, but collecting their trees and clearing out the enemies surrounding it is incredibly fun. Especially since you get to fight a bunch of different factions. And honestly, late game, the 10-12 armies you can field with sisters are plenty to do map conquest if you really want to.
Pretty sure the people who send these battles to legend just want you to have a horrible time playing the game so you get fed up and fulfil their fantasy, playing a TROY campaign on stream :^)
@@KazeKoichi Unless you play as Hector, Hector is actually quite pleasing to play as his starting position and acces to both good units and resources makes his campaign bearable despite the overall games mechanics. At least in my opinion.
@@joaksannan551 I'm absolutely sure that most Achaean are way better then Trojan in faction mechanics, and Agamemnon is the best of starting, non-DLC lords.
@@KazeKoichi Stronger for sure, but they are not, in my personal opinion, fun. Fun is highly subjective though, I just don't enjoy how the acheans fight tbh.
This is why I don't play on Legendary. Battles get boring and tedious if I have to play multiple long, live or die battles. In the lower difficulties, I can take a few losses and still recover, I can try different mix of units, I can meme it up with themed armies, I can risk alliances with factions I know will drag me to wars with everyone.
You said you really can't cheese with wood elves. I would like to see you do one of your campaigns with them. You are a master at this game, you need the challenge.
Why would you pick a fight with Alith Anar as Heralds of Ariel? He was my best bro and tradepartner on my campaign (...until he got confederated by Tyrion.) Edit: Nvm just finished the video, whoever sent this in is just trolling Legend. (or himself :P)
Trolling? Seems legit to me. He's playing a this is total war campaign and couldn't handle the heat so he sent it in. In case you don't know what that is, it's a challenge where you have to declare war on every faction you meet starting from turn 1. That's why he is at war with everyone.
@@rovers141 i realize its a this is total war, but if you reach a point where you cant handle it and instead send it to Legend to fix, then whats the point? At that point its already over. GG next so to speak. It does make for good content though.
Pretty sure the autoresolver doesn't know that the Heralds get all those Volleys of Kurnous on their Hawk Riders. It's so much power added to a unit that has far far less value in another WE faction
It definitely doesn’t. I did a hawks only heralds campaign and in the late game pretty much all the autoresolves said close defeat, then I’d start blastin and kill the whole enemy army in about a minute
Yeah, there’s a mod called: Total war with everyone Starts you at war with everyone turn 1 and makes peace impossible. Think that’s what you are looking for.
@@natgrant-haysey3713 Does it make even undiscovered factions beeline to your location? One of the main strategies of TiTW-campaigns is "Don't go looking for trouble". Otherwise a mod that checks for newly discovered factions and declares war at the end of every turn would be better
@@ilesalmo7724 Ah in that case no. I think it declares war on every single faction, be they discovered or not. never used it however so I cannot say for certain whether it does or does not. sorry.
Hi Legend I'm addicted to your videos I pretty much watch every new one that comes out although I'm absolutely terrible at the game, even playing on normal. I get 10 turns in then get overwhelmed with what to do next or what to prepare for. Do you have any normal player tips? Thanks for the awesome videos as always
@@JSDV9999 I usually like to try playing as either the Skaven such as Queek or Graum with the Greenskins. Another thing I have a problem with is my units leaving due to leadership, it seems like whenever I go up against the dwarves or lizardmen my army tends to get wrecked due to leadership
@@SushiCaptainTV If you are starting out it is best to go with the high elves, as they can do a bit of everything, where the skaven and greenskins use more specialized armies depending on the faction. The lizards and dwarves are hard to fight against, but outdoing them economically then overwhelming them can work well, particularly with high elves that can make lot of trade agreements. If you do want to stick with skaven or greenskins be sure to specialize the army with the faction. A balanced looking army is not always the best. As for what to do next, following the quests can be very helpful to get strong items or heroes. In the early game, prioritizing getting those quests done can be a focus and get you good boosts going forward. Once you do that there will probably be factions who are friendly and unfriendly enough to make clear targets for the next war.
@@JSDV9999 Thank you for all the advice! I'll look into more about getting a specialized army for dealing with the dwarves and greenskins, as well as remembering those to do those quests. I think I usually forget about them since they only pop up once. I have been told to start with high elves before, but I always dislike doing it since they dont seem as cool as the skaven haha. Thank you though, If I'm not able to get anything done with those two I'll try one with the high elves.
I was honestly questioning why he sent in such an easy battle, especially when playing a super strong race like the Wood Elves BUT I can see why after the first battle. This is truly a disaster campaign imho and the fact that he was trying This is total war as the fkin Wood Elves ??? Big mistake. Besides maybe Thorek and Kroqgar trying This is total war as an order settled faction will have you end up like Legend's Teclis campaign aka a miserable experience. Makes no mistakes it is not undoable though. As Beastmen it is super easy, maybe even easier than the normal campaign as you can stomp the whole map in 40 turns. I would highly recommend doing that as Beastmen for the experience imho. Snitch is also a super easy one and you should def try Count Noctilus sometimes. Any faction that doesnt rely on diplomacy and can have a "safe corner" to grow is much better to try This is total war imho.
Nah he couldn't win the first battle. Legend said in the email the sender told him he thinks the battle is doable but couldn't micro fast enough, it wasn't that easy for him. Also keep in mind that the AI places troops in different positions for ambush battles. It's possible that they positioned themselves much better for the guy sending it in, they weren't positioned well AT ALL for Legend, he had all day to retreat.
When I tried it they came at me from multiple angles and my wizard routed really early, I was really focused on keeping my heroes alive and my hawk riders got shot to shit. I just didn’t have enough killing power left and got a close defeat. Honestly, this campaign is super stressful but has been going pretty well so far
wait, aren't hawk riders 24 in a stack?? why does it shows 18 on a full stack? am i wrong or missing something? i've only played WE once, on hard dificulty, and i'm quite sure the stack had 24 units
@@maxwhite4177 yes, i think you are right, thank you. was thinking that the unit size might have something to do with it, but i'm still not sure how the unit size translates to the actual gameplay. apart from well, unit numbers which you just mentioned
Technically no? Hawk Riders are in the base Wood Elves DLC, and also in the Twisted and the Twilight. However the fancy ability you saw them use, the Volley of Kurnous (or the Inter Continental Ballistic Arrows), are only available when playing as the Sisters of Twilight. So if you only want to try that ability, just buy Twisted and Twilight.
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I love how this turned more and more into a distaster the longer the video went on.
This is my campaign, end turns are always super stressful 😂
Yeah...
@@notafilmmajor6159 I can imagine. Good luck with this campaign!
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So how's the campaign going since?
@@tobor88 I wasn’t able to redownload the save but I tried the battle again and won, took more damage than legend though. Beat up the brettonians and dwarves pretty easily and now the sisters are role playing a horde razing rich cities to the north while a tree defends the oak and another tree beats up some elves
Enjoyed the eventual realisation that it was a 'This is a Total War' campaign whilst being flummoxed at the precarious position the player had put themselves in.
Legend: Defeats one High Elf Army
2 remaining High elf armies: 'I Didn't hear no bell!'
Speaking of keeping enemy LLs injured, I'm reminded that I have had Malekith trapped in the dungeons of Athel Tamarha for like 80 turns now.
I bet he's having the time of his life
Take my like good person!
@@genadity Don't confuse him with his mama
Does Malice ever visit him? You know, like conjugal visits?
Did he repent for his sins against elvenkind?
Loved the Loremaster in the 2nd battle just arsing around on the horizon, you can see him waaaaaaaaaaay in the back when the battle ends at 14:45
I was wondering why in the hell someone was seemingly coming in as a reinforcement. Nah, he’s just scouting ahead with the “decisive victory” mentality. 😂 “I’ll scout ahead and start a camp fire, y’all take care of those woodies!”
14:31 That loremaster wasn’t keen to fight wood elves again.
Hanging out in the background there, ready to bail lol
There's a limit to the arrows he can parry with his sword, and he was no fool :D
This shit was so funny. I was hoping for that army to get attacked again just to hear legend freak out.
Coming up in TW-WH3: If your army has at least 70% ranged units you can activate "LoTW-Cheesegod" switch for autoresolve, no matter the BoP, you win with minimal losses.
Haha considering recent Legends record in dealing with Wood Elves sending him disaster battles involving them could be considered low effort trolling. Also ambush battles gave me PTSD ever since Ikit dropped 3 nukes on my Empire army from his ambush.
They ought to start sending him total war with Orion.
@@ragoth6207 After I watched this video I have to say I was kind of impressed with Legend who just did all those battles efficiently out of habit and then was engaged after again. Had he not been as efficient it would end up as a true disaster but yeah few more of these and worlds wood elves will start giving him mental health issues haha.
This is my campaign, it’s more of a troll on me than him trust me
Look at that loremaster at 14:31 in the background. I think it remembers what happened in Athel Loren haha
@@notafilmmajor6159 Yeah it became apparent later in the video that this wasn't planed. You couldn't have known that there will be three battles in a row since you didn't know how to macro the first one and this was on legendary. It's more like the timing made it kind of funny as I said above you gotta hand it to Legend how efficiently he dealt with that situation.
Arrows of kurnos are basically the wood elf version of guided rocket artillery. Very powerful and basically impossible to dodge
Oh shoot, yeah a This is Total War for them would be pretty hellish because you immediately go to war with all the boys around the Oak of Ages right off the bat.
This is my campaign and yep. I abandoned it right away, and only like 10 turns ago took the worldroots back and took it over once the sisters were leveled. I have never fought more battles in less time
@@notafilmmajor6159 Really wanna see how this one turns out honestly
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this (title) and fucking died.
I'm sry. I love your vids.
I need to learn how to play these wood elf dorks.
Step 1: Play on easy.
I always make sure the high elves are friendly towards me. I even help out Alith Anar since settlements aren’t worth a whole lot. I’d rather have my “allies” holding them.
What a rookie, he doesn't even have a staunch line of spears
Volleys of Kornous are just dirty. Plain dirty. Dirty damage, dirty range. Get four Eagle Riders, that will delete the equivalent of two units with every use of their Volleys easily. All of my last battles versus the Wood Elves were auto resolved, I just can't deal with that crap :D
The hawk riders are chasing Alith Anar at ×4 time speed, me looking at the heroes: Heal them. 20 winds, plenty for earth blood. Wait the video last 15 more minutes... They are going to attack you again! Heal! > gets attack again twice: I f*cking knew it xD
In my current campaign Nagarythe destroyed the Heralds of Ariel, seems he is the best lord suited for the job
“This is total war” as the Wood Elves on Legendary. . . No thanks
Ironically, I just started a new Dawi campaign. And you piss on them again.
Legend....oh great another ambush scenario. 20 mins later fighting the third battle lol
I love Legend getting a triple victory over the endturn
"Fuck man, get your campaign in order" got me cracking up haha
This was fun! Any chance we see a new wood elves campaign Legend?
Wood Elves really are incredible strong. I rarely manage to do better than AR against them.
Their armies are so strong but their campaign mechanics are so weak.
@@404Dannyboy I dunno, maybe not for map painting, but collecting their trees and clearing out the enemies surrounding it is incredibly fun. Especially since you get to fight a bunch of different factions.
And honestly, late game, the 10-12 armies you can field with sisters are plenty to do map conquest if you really want to.
For some reason this brought to mind ME3 endings... i just saw the same battle 3 times but the light was a different colour!
Pretty sure the people who send these battles to legend just want you to have a horrible time playing the game so you get fed up and fulfil their fantasy, playing a TROY campaign on stream :^)
Troy would be more pain.
@@KazeKoichi Unless you play as Hector, Hector is actually quite pleasing to play as his starting position and acces to both good units and resources makes his campaign bearable despite the overall games mechanics. At least in my opinion.
@@joaksannan551 I'm absolutely sure that most Achaean are way better then Trojan in faction mechanics, and Agamemnon is the best of starting, non-DLC lords.
@@KazeKoichi Stronger for sure, but they are not, in my personal opinion, fun.
Fun is highly subjective though, I just don't enjoy how the acheans fight tbh.
when you get 3 disaster battles for the price of 1
Elven invasion time !!! 🤣
The build up 🤣
This is why I don't play on Legendary. Battles get boring and tedious if I have to play multiple long, live or die battles. In the lower difficulties, I can take a few losses and still recover, I can try different mix of units, I can meme it up with themed armies, I can risk alliances with factions I know will drag me to wars with everyone.
Title gave me a stroke
I dont know if there is any youtuber or even any Australian for that matter who gets more mentions in the book than Legend. My vow demands justice.
Unless you buff their ammo cap with Alith, yes, shadow walkers are a bunch of two pump chumps lol.
That was a trap!
Chaos [skaven] pleased happy Elf on elf the Great plan is working..;3 [cleaver devious disorder tide..]
if you dont have good micro isnt this the best time to learn it
You said you really can't cheese with wood elves. I would like to see you do one of your campaigns with them. You are a master at this game, you need the challenge.
**against** wood elves.
To double down on what Keith said, cheesing *with* wood elves is easy. Cheesing *against* is a different story
This is my campaign, wood elves are so fucking cheesy. Knowledgeable lord spam is so strong, and having glass cannons and stealth has a lotta options
Why would you pick a fight with Alith Anar as Heralds of Ariel? He was my best bro and tradepartner on my campaign (...until he got confederated by Tyrion.)
Edit: Nvm just finished the video, whoever sent this in is just trolling Legend. (or himself :P)
Trolling? Seems legit to me. He's playing a this is total war campaign and couldn't handle the heat so he sent it in. In case you don't know what that is, it's a challenge where you have to declare war on every faction you meet starting from turn 1. That's why he is at war with everyone.
This is my campaign, it’s been an eventful game so far haha
@@rovers141 i realize its a this is total war, but if you reach a point where you cant handle it and instead send it to Legend to fix, then whats the point? At that point its already over. GG next so to speak. It does make for good content though.
Thanks for the video
Pretty sure the autoresolver doesn't know that the Heralds get all those Volleys of Kurnous on their Hawk Riders. It's so much power added to a unit that has far far less value in another WE faction
It definitely doesn’t. I did a hawks only heralds campaign and in the late game pretty much all the autoresolves said close defeat, then I’d start blastin and kill the whole enemy army in about a minute
Is there a mod for automatic "This is Total War"? Would make it easier for players who constantly forget to declare wars
Yeah, there’s a mod called:
Total war with everyone
Starts you at war with everyone turn 1 and makes peace impossible. Think that’s what you are looking for.
@@natgrant-haysey3713 Does it make even undiscovered factions beeline to your location? One of the main strategies of TiTW-campaigns is "Don't go looking for trouble". Otherwise a mod that checks for newly discovered factions and declares war at the end of every turn would be better
@@ilesalmo7724 ^^ I had a faction travel from over a continent away to fight me even though they were losing ground in a different war
@@ilesalmo7724 Ah in that case no. I think it declares war on every single faction, be they discovered or not. never used it however so I cannot say for certain whether it does or does not. sorry.
Nice micro :)
When will Legend do a this is total war Woodelves :D
Hi Legend I'm addicted to your videos I pretty much watch every new one that comes out although I'm absolutely terrible at the game, even playing on normal. I get 10 turns in then get overwhelmed with what to do next or what to prepare for. Do you have any normal player tips? Thanks for the awesome videos as always
What do you usually play as?
@@JSDV9999 I usually like to try playing as either the Skaven such as Queek or Graum with the Greenskins. Another thing I have a problem with is my units leaving due to leadership, it seems like whenever I go up against the dwarves or lizardmen my army tends to get wrecked due to leadership
@@SushiCaptainTV If you are starting out it is best to go with the high elves, as they can do a bit of everything, where the skaven and greenskins use more specialized armies depending on the faction.
The lizards and dwarves are hard to fight against, but outdoing them economically then overwhelming them can work well, particularly with high elves that can make lot of trade agreements.
If you do want to stick with skaven or greenskins be sure to specialize the army with the faction. A balanced looking army is not always the best.
As for what to do next, following the quests can be very helpful to get strong items or heroes. In the early game, prioritizing getting those quests done can be a focus and get you good boosts going forward. Once you do that there will probably be factions who are friendly and unfriendly enough to make clear targets for the next war.
@@JSDV9999 Thank you for all the advice! I'll look into more about getting a specialized army for dealing with the dwarves and greenskins, as well as remembering those to do those quests. I think I usually forget about them since they only pop up once.
I have been told to start with high elves before, but I always dislike doing it since they dont seem as cool as the skaven haha. Thank you though, If I'm not able to get anything done with those two I'll try one with the high elves.
@@SushiCaptainTV Yea the elves are kinda boring but they are definitely the easiest to get the hang of when you start out. Good luck!
I was honestly questioning why he sent in such an easy battle, especially when playing a super strong race like the Wood Elves BUT I can see why after the first battle. This is truly a disaster campaign imho and the fact that he was trying This is total war as the fkin Wood Elves ??? Big mistake. Besides maybe Thorek and Kroqgar trying This is total war as an order settled faction will have you end up like Legend's Teclis campaign aka a miserable experience.
Makes no mistakes it is not undoable though. As Beastmen it is super easy, maybe even easier than the normal campaign as you can stomp the whole map in 40 turns. I would highly recommend doing that as Beastmen for the experience imho. Snitch is also a super easy one and you should def try Count Noctilus sometimes. Any faction that doesnt rely on diplomacy and can have a "safe corner" to grow is much better to try This is total war imho.
Nah he couldn't win the first battle. Legend said in the email the sender told him he thinks the battle is doable but couldn't micro fast enough, it wasn't that easy for him. Also keep in mind that the AI places troops in different positions for ambush battles. It's possible that they positioned themselves much better for the guy sending it in, they weren't positioned well AT ALL for Legend, he had all day to retreat.
When I tried it they came at me from multiple angles and my wizard routed really early, I was really focused on keeping my heroes alive and my hawk riders got shot to shit. I just didn’t have enough killing power left and got a close defeat. Honestly, this campaign is super stressful but has been going pretty well so far
I'll never understand why noobs whom have never ever played even one total war game jump into warhammer and whack it on legendary.
when you what
War with high elves is mistake for wood folks.
Well he kind of had to go to war with them, it's part of the challenge he is doing.
Prior the patch/nerf it would be no problem though. More money and experience.
After the patch well.... live and let live is the way of life right?
Why you fighting alith anar
I think tree man doomstack is the do to with wood elves, they are one of the best spammable doomstack
@@jamaly77 You managed to be wrong twice in 1 sentence lol
wait, aren't hawk riders 24 in a stack?? why does it shows 18 on a full stack? am i wrong or missing something? i've only played WE once, on hard dificulty, and i'm quite sure the stack had 24 units
Unit size. You were probably on ultra, while this guy was on large.
@@maxwhite4177 yes, i think you are right, thank you. was thinking that the unit size might have something to do with it, but i'm still not sure how the unit size translates to the actual gameplay. apart from well, unit numbers which you just mentioned
Those hawk riders are pretty good! Are they DLC only?
Technically no? Hawk Riders are in the base Wood Elves DLC, and also in the Twisted and the Twilight. However the fancy ability you saw them use, the Volley of Kurnous (or the Inter Continental Ballistic Arrows), are only available when playing as the Sisters of Twilight. So if you only want to try that ability, just buy Twisted and Twilight.
@@njustin16 Volley of Kurnous turn Hawk Riders into attack helocopters.
Technically yes, because every Wood Elves faction is DLC.
@@KazeKoichi hence the technically lol
@@florians9949 Magical Arrow Based Rail Guns
Would you accept a save your disaster battle from atilla? just wondering
pretty sure he doesn't do atilla anymore, warhammer is where it's at. you can send him an email with the safe file and just ask though
This is totalwar campaign as WE= PlEasE lEGenD, SaVE mE ME!!
What you what? ;) lol
What is a “this is total war” campaign?
A campaign where the player declares war on every faction they discover and have discovered, thus total war.
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