WTF Happened to OLIVER STONE?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2022
- One of the most controversial directors to emerge from the 1980s is definitely Oliver Stone. A Vietnam vet with a strong political bent, he first plied his trade as a screenwriter on movies such as 1978’s Midnight Express, 1983’s Scarface and 1985’s Year of the Dragon, before moving into directing with two masterpieces that came out within months of each other, the James Woods fact-based thriller Salvador (1986) and the stone-cold Vietnam classic Platoon.
From there, his career kicked into high gear, with him known for casting a critical eye at some of the most controversial events and personalities of modern times. His best movies include 1988’s Wall Street (which won an Oscar for star Michael Douglas), 1989’s Born of the Fourth of July (which proved to people just how outstanding an actor Tom Cruise could be), 1991’s The Doors and JFK (still perhaps his most controversial film), 1994’s Natural Born Killers, 1999’s Any Given Sunday and many, many more.
While his output has slowed in recent years, Stone’s as prolific as ever; he’s just turned his attention to documentaries such as The Putin Interviews and JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass. Join us as we take a deep dive into his remarkable career on this episode of WTF Happened to this Celebrity.
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The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.
George Orwell
Whenever the topic of tragically recently forgotten Great American Filmmakers comes up, I always cite Oliver Stone. It can't be understated how important he is to late-20th century American cinema.
Mapping the evolution of his cinematic grammar from "Salvador" to "World Trade Center" (where he finally recedes back into traditional visual storytelling) is one of the most interesting journeys a cinema lover can take.
He's one of our Great American Filmmakers, period.
"Alexander made $167 mil"
Me: holy crap, that did good!
"... on a $155 mil budget"
Me: ... Oh.
Come on, that movie was terrible.
Ridley Scott should have done that movie
It's definitely a challenging, flawed film.
In my opinion, Stone's failure was his casting. If feel Val Kilmer, Jared Leto, and Angelina Jolie, among others, were all woefully miscast.
I even think Anthony Hopkins' performance is pretty stilted.
Stone's script and especially his camera are on point (that first battle with the Persians is pretty brilliant) but there's only so much he can achieve if the actors onscreen are not delivering.
I'll always have a bit of unconditional respect for "Alexander" though. I love the audacity of Stone making a violent, manly action picture where the warrior protagonist is a weepy mommy's boy with a crush on one of his generals. In 2004? In George W. Bush's America? lol...ballsy.
Thank you, Oliver Stone, for your service to the country !
For fighting a war for someone who didn't even know his name?
@@danielhooper27 For me, I took it as service for being someone brave to talk about different view points. Not about his active duty service. Although, that stint on active duty heavily influenced the man. I thank Stone for sitting being the storyteller he is and use his position to talk about Snowden, Chavez, and Castro.
Did you even see Born on the 4th of July? Platoon? JFK? He would think that was the most idiotic thing someone could say to he or anyone who was tricked or forced to go fight in that horrific slaughter in the name of pure imperialism. But completely missing the point seems to be about the most American thing you can do anymore, so congratulations. That should at least make you happy.
@@danielhooper27 yeah he went and experienced a crap war for politicians, saw the error of it all and made one of the greatest anti war, especially anti Vietnam war movies ever. You holding a grudge for that or something?
OS drank too much leftist kool aid.
While I see the faults in Alexander, the battle scenes were phenomenal and very accurate to the descriptions of how they went down for the most part. It almost felt like Stone wanted to make those battle scenes and then had to make the movie around them.
He filmed the battle scenes because the audience and financiers demanded it. Stone clearly wanted to make a soap opera instead.
@andrion waser Why? I’m Greek myself and I’m genuinely curious as to why people have such a big problem with it. Did you want them to have fake Greek accents? They’d sound ridiculous. This argument only holds up if the alternative would be to have them talk in fluent Ancient Greek.
@andrion waser That’s a different matter, and I agree on that wholeheartedly. Alexander was surrounded by people who didn’t want him leading them, who were suspicious and there was constant talking behind his back. Of course he was extremely close with his friend whom he grew up with, doesn’t mean they were fucking. Men just can’t have a close friend these days without wanting to hop on their dick.
I agree
A lot of people don't realise Tom Cruise lost out Daniel Day Lewis for a best actor Oscar.
Cruise is fantastic in Born On The 4th of July, just losing out to Day Lewis's performance in My Left Foot
People forget how talented Cruise was as a dramatic actor, I think Cruise wins that Oscar just about any other year and I still think Cruise should've won best supporting actor for Magnolia.
Well, if you’re gonna lose to someone, lose to the best of the best
It's a pity he hasn't played any challenging roles recently.
@@delrey874 that because he has done it all and doesn’t need to prove it anymore. Any talented filmmaker you can think of and he has likely work with all of them
@Kitten in the Moon I disagree. Tom was perfect for that. The director watch Tom movies ‘endless love’ from 1981 and that’s how he got the part
I met the unit publicist of Natural Born Killers and asked him what it was like shooting in an active prison. All he told me was that the prisoners said some things he'd never repeat and wished he could forget.
Oliver Stone is easily one of the best directors ever. His movies are raw.
His movies are great. His politics are not.
Ya too bad he's dumber than shit.
@@PeepersT what's wrong with his politics other than they aren't yours?
@@dominicparadiso5408He's a Putinphile.
Oliver Stone is one of my favorite screenwriters and directors, also easily one of the most influential artists of cinema, great tribute as always!
Next please WFT happened to Jackie Chan or Arnold Schwarzenegger, would love to see your take on my childhood heroes.
omg lol we had the same childhood 😃
"He uses a camera to shoot." Isn't that the cutest thing you ever heard?
His creative résumé is incredible but I'm more impressed by the fact he survived a war in a killer jungle. He's amazing
I forgot Gary Oldman (definitely my favorite actor) was in JFK because I haven't seen it since the 90s, he looks so much like Lee Oswald it's uncanny
amazing range - Drexyl Spivey in True Romance - Tony Scott did an incredible job with Tarantino's script - Hopper and Walken - cameo after cameo - imo one of the greatest overlooked films ever
@@uforferdetnilsson2595 true romance is my favorite movie, such a great flick
Stone got cancelled because he was asking too many difficult questions about US exceptionalism, “controversial” is a media weasel word used to discredit someone very much in the public sphere as opposed to a marginal voice.
I have always loved his films, his son Sean Stone started following me on Twitter a few months back and it was the coolest gift I've gotten this year lol.
I've had similar happen and this must mean you're prepared to speak truth to power then, because like Stone, his son is a commentator, documentarian, and a truth-speaker.
Good job
He made some of the best movies ever made, Platoon is always in top 5 best War movies ever made, Salvador was an interesting movie and an amazing role from James woods, Wall street is an excellent movie, Born on the fourth of july is a really great movie with a phenomenal performance by Tom cruise, Jfk is long but actually a masterpiece, Nixon was fine, Wall street 2 was good, Any given sunday has his moments and The doors was great. I havent seen the others, so thanks for this video
And wrote Scarface...
James Woods should've won that Oscar.
Natural Born Killers is dope!!!! And I personally believe Born on the Fourth of July is easily Tom Cruise’ best performance ever. If I had to pick what Oliver Stone movie is his best I will go with JFK!!
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I love U Turn, saw many times.
Oliver Stone's name in the credits is reason enough for me to watch the movie. The ones he wrote or cowrote are all great and even the movies he directed that are considered to be his lesser works are still fun, solid watches. I even saw the movie South Central just because he was an executive producer for it, and that was a so-bad-it's-good masterpiece! Of course, now I have to see Oliver, Stoned...
Oliver Stone is a hero along with Assange, Glen Greenwald & Edward Snowdon.
Snowden didn't realize the government doesn't read our kitty pictures we send to friends via email. They use bots to filter out key words like "I have a bomb". There aren't enough people in the nation to read all of our emails. So what does this say about Snowden?
Yes
@@gerardowmby7156
What does says about Snowden is you don't even understand your subject and have your head up your arse
Oliver Stone read Robert E Howard and was involved in the original Conan script. It got used by Mattel when they dropped out of the R rated Conan movie and influenced the creation of He-man and Skeletor in particular. Oliver had an indirect impact on my youth and the mythos I relate to.
Go figure
His Conan script is supposed to be epic, far more than what ended up being shot. I wonder if his original screenplay could get a comic book adaptation?
Dude, Conan is still one of my fave 80's flicks. Everything from Arnie's raw acting and portrayal to Sandahl Bergman's effortless grace and beauty ("do you want to live forever?").... and still one of the greatest music scores of its time!
Love him or hate him he has the biggest cajones Hollywood has ever seen!
Gotta love the guy.
I think “Nixon” is **vastly** underrated. Every single performer in it is just stellar. Combining “flashes of consciousness” that he did on films like JFK and NBK really help you connect-the-dots on what Nixon was thinking in certain scenes. How flashes of experiences earlier in life can have a bearing on our actions today.
As a detester of Nixon, Stone actually made me feel sorry for the guy. Which is a monumental feat in its own right.
And the rendition of “Oh Shenandoah” during the credits is phenomenal.
exactly my thoughts. wonderful film.
Very underrated film, I agree. Got good reviews but bombed at the box office. One of my favourites
I thought it was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Hopkins is terrible. He speaks like Anthony Hopkins, not Nixon. Stone clearly hates Nixon and it shows. He has sweat on his face throughout the entire film. Only the negative things about him are shown. The flashbacks are pointless and are in black and white for no reason. It is also way too long. It's one of his worst movies and that is saying something.
Nixon is underrated indeed.
@@kmart_kid Let me guess, you vote for GOP.
Surprised to learn that the actress in heaven and earth passed young in 2017. How ironic and , in a way, very fortunate that you got to star in the movie. Her persona lives on. God bless her soul.
Born On The Fourth of July is such an emotional film. You forget once upon a time, Tom Cruise could actually Act!
Tom cruise can always act like what are you talking about. In the same decade of born on the Fourth of July, he make movie with Scorsese , Ridley scott and Coppola all back to back and then the decade following he work with Sydney pollack , Kubrick and give one of the greatest performance of all time in Paul Thomas Anderson ‘PTA’ magnolia. not to forgot about the underrated Spielberg flick ‘minority report’ and Michael mann ‘collateral’ also his Brian de Palma mission impossible flick before it turn into a franchise. How one can also forgot top gun and days of thunder from tony Scott ?
He’s always a fantastic actor and always has been. I believe he the last Hollywood actor that is like work with some of the best people you can ever think of like DiCaprio level
Platoon is his most personal film and his masterpiece
He got Rodney Dangerfield to act in a role that was very uncomfortable for him, plus he got Trent Reznor to arrange the Natural Born Killers soundtrack! My favorite filmmaker teaming up with my favorite rock star! Fuck yeah!!!
"...especially with fellow crazy person, Nicholas Cage attached."
Ah man, I was drinking a beer.
Born on the Fourth of July is horrifically underrated. No true bluray release, no 4k, no sort of remastered, and too many people who don't even remember it. It seems almost the same for many other of Stones' films, which is just tragic. Wouldn't surprise me if it was because the current establishment doesn't like the anti-authoritarian tone of all of these classic films.
No it was not underrated. Those who do ratings rated it highly
I love JFK. Brilliantly made & fascinating. It always leaves me thought provoked about the case.
I also remember reading he was attached to direct the remake of Silent Night Deadly Night, with a script by Damien Cain.
Robert Aldrich directed The flight of the Phoenix 1965 with Dan duryea James Stewart ernest Borgnine George Kennedy
"JFK" is so interesting to me because it's one of the only instances where I believe a film is a legitimate masterpiece...even though I basically disagree with its central thesis.
It's just very strange. I *personally* believe that Oswald did it and he acted alone, but I can't deny how brilliantly Stone tells his story, cinematically. Just the first 5 minutes alone with the Martin Sheen voice over is genius.
With "JFK" he also essentially redefined cinematic grammar in a way he would continue to evolve over his next several films, and finally perfect, in my opinion, with "Nixon", which is my favorite film of his, and one of my favorite films of all time.
I'm much more in agreement with his "thesis" in "Nixon" as well, lol...
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 The way he used 16mm footage to capture a documentary look was brilliant. I actually saw it as a kid, & I was too young to know anything about filmmaking aspects like this, & I originally thought he used a lot of real footage. He implemented that stuff really well & fit with the actual real footage he used.
Silence of the Lambs is a great film, but I think JFK was more worthy of the top awards that year.
@@filmbuff2777 That's interesting, yeah, and I think I have to agree- even though I also love "Silence of the Lambs", I personally believe "JFK" is the far bigger achievement, cinematically.
As you point out, his expert juggling of film stocks was just one of many directorial innovations Stone utilized; as much as I love Jonathan Demme, and as much as I feel his own innovations (such as relying heavy on actors speaking directly into the lens) are pretty brilliant, I feel Stone was acting on another level.
Maybe that year Stone should have won Best Director with "Silence of the Lambs" still taking home Best Picture?
(as happened in '89 when Stone wins Director for "Born on the Fouth of July" but "Driving Miss Daisy"- inexplicably- wins Best Picture...)
I totally agree with this take… The movie is total BS, but it’s the most gloriously constructed BS I’ve ever seen.. lol.. Not surprising, he’s a fantastic filmmaker..
Oliver Stone - THE MAN ☝️👍👌. Not many strong and honest man like him! GOD BLESS him 🙏❤️🙏.
And thank you for the video about Oliver 🙏😊
You forgot to mention his 2016 Ukraine on fire film which is the most controversial film ever. But yea one of the best directors.
When congress will pass legislation based on your movie, you must be doing something right.
We are talking about directors so:
WTF HAPPENED to "John Carpenter" &
"Brian de Palma"?
John carpenter career flop when he make a film with Amber turd
He went to war and that gave him the perspective to make such amazing war movie as platoon.
Only someone who fought on the frontlines could've given us Platoon
@@dominicparadiso5408 indeed
I love Oliver stone’s movies but Spielberg deserves just as much praise for telling war stories
Those two film auteurs have VERY different approaches to filmmaking though.
Stone was a UCLA film grad, while Spielberg took it up at USC. The former program is known to encourage more experimental styles, while the latter a far more conventional curriculum. So that figures.
Few suggestions for wtf happened to
John Carpentar
Pierce Brosnan
Brian De Palma
Alec Baldwin
Charles Dance
Jean Reno
Luc Beson
Bryan Singer
Harvey Keitel
Roman Polanski
Kevin Spacey
Michael Mann
Bruce Campbell
John Malkovich
Bryan Singer, Kevin Spacey and Roman Polanski are all scumbags who don't deserve videos dedicated to them.
Agreed on everybody but Roman Polanski.
He has two trilorgy's you can watch.
The President Trilogy with JFK, Nixon, and W.
And the Vietnam War Trilogy with Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, and Heaven and Earth.
Thanks for another great one Taylor!
I miss 80s and early 90s Oliver Stone
You guys should really do a WTF on Jim Caviezel.
It’s coming - a whole lot to unpack there
Robert Aldrich directed hustle 1975 with Ernest Borgnine Burt Reynolds Eddie Albert ben Johnson Dave wilock Fred Willard
Ditto, I always wondered what happened to Caviezel myself.
@@JoBloOriginals you should do wtf happened to Richard Pryor, we remembered, wtf happened to Al Pacino, what happened to Martin Lawrence, WTF happened to Lawrence fishburne
@@JoBloOriginals You also did WTF happened to Sean Connery, years ago before he passed away on 31 October 2020
Platoon is easily one of the best films ever ever, made. Pure excellence😛👍
His autobiography came out a few years ago, its a great read, recommended.
I hope at some point his movie about the My Lai Massacre gets made
Hollywood wouldn't allow a film of that nature to be made in this stupid woke era unfortunately..
I have detected 3 things that have affected Oliver Stone: 1. rubles, 2. rubles and 3. rubles.
Platoon is one of the greatest war movies ever imo. Oliver Stone is a genius. And EVERYBODY'S story deserves to be heard, regardless of how our gov't feels about them. Bravo Mr. Stone!! 👏👏👏👏
*The Untold History of the United States* = 👍👍 - one of the best documentaries (& modern history books) you can find, imo.
Personally, I am such a big fan of Oliver Stone and his work because some of his films had made an impact on people as well as history, too. Like his TV documentary mini-series, "The Untold History of the United States," which I regard as a great educational lesson for me and Mr. Stone and his people did an excellent job on it and I totally agreed and accepted what that series did unlike what Mr. Stone's right-wing critics and detractors had stated to the contrary.
Heaven and Earth is underrated, IMO.
JAMES WOODS was in "Salvador" and "Any given sunday" by Oliver stone.
So WTF Happened to him?
He was excellent in his prime
James Woods was a good actor. He is now a dumb Trumpster.
Yeah I would never get a beer with James Woods, I've seen his tweets, he's kind of despicable. But I would never deny his filmography is amazing.
Arthur Penn's "Night Moves"
Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in America"
Scorsese's "Casino"
Robert Zemeckis' "Contact"
Sofia Coppola's "The Virgin Suicides"
all his work with Stone...
There was a time he one of the great American film actors. I suppose he still is, technically.
But he's also an insufferable asshole who chose the path to the dark side. It's sad, but it shouldn't diminish the work he's done.
I also love him in Stone's "Nixon" as HR Haldeman. A small role but he's great in it.
James Woods is very talented, but he's one of those character actors that's very "niche" (in that, he plays the best scumbags, lol!) Even his more sympathetic characters have a light aura of douchiness. He's a very, very good actor :) Edit - James Woods was also in Oliver Stone's film "Nixon."
@@SupertzarMetal i can't stand how people make everything political. I had no idea he supported Trump ,who cares . James Woods is a great actor .
@@SupertzarMetal god forbid you view anything outside your political view. Laughably people like yourself pretend tolerance is your ideology.
Some of my favourite movies.... but struggled to get through Alexander. But I was 17, maybe I'll give it another go
You really want to punish yourself again?
Calling «south of the border» a dictator movie is the most ignorant thing I´ve heard in a while. Maybe you should watch it. It´s a wonderful documentary about countries reclaiming their sovereignty. Don´t swallow all the exceptionalist propaganda that gets shoved down your throat, broaden your horizon.
Finally, a episode of WTF that I've been waiting to see!
Favorite American director. Marty, Quentin, Fincher, PTA and Oliver is all you really need:)
Oliver Stone is the best kind of American.
Oliver Stone is the best director of his era because he doesn’t bend the knee.
No he’s just able to think for himself unlike a lot of Americans now who blindly believe whatever their government and media outlets tell them.
He takes risks in Hollywood, doesn't fallow the cookie cutter directors. No he's not perfect as a man, as so many "men" in Hollywood have continued to prove. He is diffrent and takes risks, the ability to be diffrent. More "men" in Hollywood should , with Unconditional Respect, be so bold.
Oliver Stone was the shit growing up. From the mid ‘80s to 2000 he was arguably one of the best directors in the game. Almost every film he directed in that period is a gem.
and what about 2001-2022?
Alexander is underapreciated and misunderstood
He also directed a short about the 2014 FIFA World Cup which looked amazing.
I just had an idea: A Hugo Chavez-Biopic starring Steven Seagal!
Kalfaktor -- But what about the pony tail?
El Salvador is a smart, intelligent and great film! Super underrated in my opinion.
I kind of wonder what Tarantino's original take was for Natural Born Killers, you sort of get a glimpse of his take from the beginning and end sections of pulp fiction.
Read the book, it was pretty similar
I think Tarantino was a bit jealous of Oliver at the time...
@@Craig-wi5bv more likely it is a bruised ego. Tarantino has always an over size ego.
I like a lot of his movies. I hope to one day meet him and learn about his movie making style. (:
He's the dude and I've adore him being upfront n real , I wanted him to direct my movie
Remember growing up in the 90s and watching his videos. Platoon is what helped me decide on joining the army. He made some bangers. Very political but in a good way giving the viewer the info needed to make up their own choice. Wish he was still making stuff
For one split second i've tought "hey, jo blo finally made a video on Jim Belushi....wait a minute"
JFK Declassified-his follow up Documentaryis out there.The cat put both Salvador & Platoon in 1986,which is most impressive:)..
WTF happened to Michael Mann?
I think the movie Margin Call re-adapted and directed by Oliver Stone as Wall Street II would have been great.
80's and 90's Oliver was mostly gold, U Turn is underrated, and his career hasn't been great for the last 20 years or so, but Snowden was watchable.
Most of his work the last two decades has been great.
U turn was great...The ending was amazing when the the radiator hose blew and the flash back of Billy Bob laughing was amazing ..
What song is used at 5:57?
I would have loved to see Stone turn them 1967 television, The Prisoner, into a film, even if it was a three hour one.
My favorite filmaker. Not my favorite person. But my favorite filmaker. His movies provoke us, and we are never the same after watching them. That's a talent.
I love Oliver Stone and his films.
On the range with the Army when I was in 🇨🇦 the first group went to go shooting first while second and third group watched movies for two hours until our turn, we watched Platoon 😎💪
Brilliant as usual!
Scarface, Platoon, Born on the Fourth of July and Natural Born Killers are beyond exceptional. I love watching them.
Robert Aldrich directed Vera Cruz 1954 the dirty dozen 1967 emperor of the north 1973 hustle 1975 with Ernest Borgnine
I give him a lot credit. It’s easy to say I am against you or I am for you no matter what. It’s harder to look deeper into the issues and into the person. If more people were like that maybe we would have more solutions. I hope we see more truth finding projects from him.
The Wild Bunch is the most violent 'anti-violence' film. NHK is a cartoon comparatively.
Who's in the wild bunch
Ph God you’ve bored me already at 2min 40 secs! Well done! What an achievement !
Stone is one of the greatest directors!
Really did not know much about him and his filmography, despite having listened to his episode on Rogan. What a legend!
I’m assuming then that you are quite young, because he was (by far) the most talked about contemporary film director from about 1987 to 1996. Back then, the name Oliver Stone was a meme for conspiracy theories (which was a trendy pastime).
@@kramalerav I am. I was born in '94 haha
On September 9th 2022 Oliver is releasing a documentary on Nuclear Power!!!This could be one of his most influential films ever as it has the planet itself in the balance!!!!Go Go Oliver!!!!Zero emissions is what we need or as close to it as we can get ...
Wtf happend to George Clooney, Michael Fassbender and Zach Galifianakis. Great Job Joblo with the content that you guys deliver.
Ukraine on Fire is imho far and away the most revealing and honest work he's ever took part in.
What I thought was interesting about the Andy Warhol scenes was that I first assumed the whole encounter was Oliver Stone fiction. Morrison, Warhol and Nico were all dead by the time the movie was made. I was surprised to learn a tryst with Nico did actually happen.
Another account, from Manzarek(?) was that Jim was super geaky about a chance to meet Warhol, not the too cool for the room posturing in the film.
Great Director and a great Human!
One of my favourite films is Natural Born Killers. Me and my friend Lee went to see NBK 7 times in a fortnight.
What's the music in this video?
I don't know much or care to know about him....but I love this series so much I have to watch it. Now I have to watch platoon
What series
What makes those leaders anymore horrible than the ones we have here in the states?
I love U Turn. I think U-turn rocks. Has some of the craziest characters I’ve ever seen in a movie and it’s a pretty dark film.
The word "Satire" would of served you greatly when describing NBK. One of his best imo.
“It’s Oliver STONEland!”
-Ben Stiller show
'and i hate that f-n CGI eagle!" lmao
Platoon and born on the Fourth of July is a masterpiece
love his films
have his memoir chasing the light
hope he works on another memoir to chasing the light
Small adding...... In the year 2005 he made a small cameo in the spanish movie "Torrente 3"..... a (allegedly) comedy about a crooked cop whos given the mission to protect an international ambassador.... It's a really small scene where Oliver teams up with the main protagonist (Torrente) to beat the crap out of three soccer players..... just to give some extra trivia.....
WTF Happened to Buried (2010)?
Robert Aldrich directed Vera Cruz 1954 with Gary cooper Burt Lancaster Charles Bronson ernest Borgnine
Great review except...
...now I feel I should go back and watch all his films all over again.
I wonder what actors think when they get called in to work with stone, probably like “oh god here we go again”
To me the man is a national treasure... An exceptional and erudite mind!