Minimalistic CNC Router makes incredible parts!

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    The Minamil project is a minimalistic mini CNC router made from simple and accessible parts, costing only about $50. Even though it looks janky, the Minamil can machine incredibly detailed parts! Let's find out more!
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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Too small and janky or perfect to get started and your projects?

    • @robertobrenes5283
      @robertobrenes5283 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too small! I think a work volume of 15cmx15cmx5cm is the minimum to do some pcbs and small parts

    • @mauminimus
      @mauminimus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is perfec for making gears into 1/24 scale rc cars, and small pcbs with smd components

    • @axelSixtySix
      @axelSixtySix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IMHO price decreasing CNC routers claims goes the wrong way. Should we buy a price or a proper tool ? Anyone who experienced CNC routing someday knows the goal is to get a capable machine. And the "capable" word can takes various sense from everyone. Let's propose a definition, shall we ? A capable CNC router is a machine who can get perfect results at the required machining parameters of the biggest tool the spindle can hold, on the harder material the bit itself is able to machine. Let's take as example a Genmitsu 3018. Its ER11 splindle can hold a 7mm carbide bit, so the machine should be able to take 7mm deep in aluminium at 400mm.mn. Unfortunately the machine can't hold it. This is not a capable machine. About the machine shown in your video, can it hold 3mm deep in aluminium at 300mm.mn ? Obviously not. So it's $50 wasted.

    • @tinayoga8844
      @tinayoga8844 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't mind the small size. I am concerned about how fiddly it may be. (need to check into it more)
      I have a first starter cnc router build in progress with a machining envelope of 200mm x 300mm x 120mm . (parts stage only) It was to be a stepping stone for a later more substantial build. My starter project still will be a substantial effort.
      The Minimalistic CNC Router now has me rethinking my plans. Now I think I should make a small cnc router than my planned first build. Similar in design of the 3018 but with a smaller build volume of 180mm x 180mm, but more ridged, and a more accurate spindle.
      Or maybe a derivative of Nikodem Bartnik's original Dremel CNC project. th-cam.com/video/239aFAqYBpQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @axelSixtySix
      @axelSixtySix ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinayoga8844 you should take reference from proper CNC routers. When 3D printed parts are more than 20 times less stiff than aluminium (which is already not the best material to build a CNC router), guess what you get ?

  • @yschroder
    @yschroder ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Back in 2009 a friend and I started to build a CNC router out of drawer rails like you did. Back then there was not a lot to build upon. We wanted to do everything ourselves. We built the stepper drivers from L293 and L298 chips. We etched our own PCBs. We programmed an Atmel microcontroller without Arduino. We learned how to create acceleration ramps for the steppers (and that we needed them!). We learned about the Bresenham algorithm to travel diagonally. We even built software to translate SVG files to something the Atmel could parse. We created our own protocol for the serial communication, ignoring the existence of gcode. We only managed a few drawings with a pen and some cuts with a Dremel. We never finished the project, but we learned a ton! We called it "Käsefräse" (cheese mill) because it was basically only capable of cutting cheese.

    • @cellularmitosis2
      @cellularmitosis2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This sounds like an epically good time! Some rabbit holes are extremely satisfying

    • @vishnu7794
      @vishnu7794 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can consider it as incredible journey and learning.

    • @yschroder
      @yschroder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, we had an incredible time and what I learned helped me to today. I now pay my bills doing stuff like that.

    • @vishnu7794
      @vishnu7794 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yschroder Happy to hear that. I m sure you enjoyed those diy moments. Diy is tough and some times turns expensive but learning and experience we gain really matter.

  • @properprinting
    @properprinting ปีที่แล้ว +172

    This machine was so small I overlooked it at first. This definitely was one of the hidden gems at mrrf and Paul is an awesome guy! Cool that you've featured him!

    • @arminth
      @arminth ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jon, I spotted you in the video! Great! Kartoffelsalat!

    • @properprinting
      @properprinting ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@arminth Bratwurst!

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was great to meet you Jon! and to get a close-up hands-on look at your belt-drive extruder.

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a well known company approach me about a decade ago. When I was doing a lot of engineering and machining in my business but my wife was getting into wholesale industrial scale jewelry production.
    They wanted me to help them develop a very very precise and expensive desktop CNC machine for jewelers and watchmakers. Something not only capable of machining stuff for Jewelry like lost wax forms and molds…. but also something capable of ridiculously tiny and precise mechanical watch parts.
    A buddy of mine ended up helping them develop it instead, and that little tiny thing was the size of a shoebox and cost tens of thousands of dollars.
    But was super impressive and there are a lot of them in use in Switzerland and other places known for small precise parts.
    Long story short… After being involved with that process a bit……me and my buddy both decided we could make something nearly as good and have it manufactured in Shenzhen. Since we both visited a few times a year back in those days and we can kind of watch the manufacturing process and keep tabs on everything. But you could make an insanely accurate watchmakers style tabletop machine … Capable of five axis machining of any type of material imaginable. for a surprisingly cheap amount. I can’t imagine how well and cheaply that could be done these days. Over the last decade 3-D printing and hobbyist stuff has made it unbelievably easy and cheap to tackle a project like that especially if you have a good team of guys working on it together. It’s been one of the best parts of my life getting to watch over the last 10 or 20 years… How incredibly precise and nice equipment is available on Amazon second day air mail to anyone who wants to start the Hobby. As an old timer machinist, engineer, and tool and die maker type guy… It’s just been a great thing to watch it become more readily available to everyone. Obviously China isn’t perfect but it wouldn’t have been possible without them.
    I hate the CCP because of how they treat their people but the Chinese people themselves… Salt of the earth type folks and then anyone hasn’t had a chance to go over there and learn a bit… I highly suggest it before spreading around ignorant BS that people always talk about and badmouth the Chinese people for.
    To hell with their government but the people are awesome
    This video is super cool because someone could develop that and take it as far as they wanted. And be able to get absolutely incredible space-age tight parts off of it if they wanted to invest a bit of time and money in rigidity

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your cost-reduced watchmaker machine an available thing?

  • @literalghost929
    @literalghost929 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    The coolest thing about tools such as CNC, 3d printers, lathe, etc., is that once you have the tool, you can use the tool improve or build a better version of the tool using the tool. Just an incredible concept!

    • @yschroder
      @yschroder ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is done in a lot of software projects as well. Ever wondered which operating system the Linux developers use? Or what version control system is used to develop git? A big milestone when creating a new compiler is reached when it is able to compile its own source code. I guess it can become confusing at times 😅

    • @literalghost929
      @literalghost929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yschroder Yeah. The 'ultimate' tool will be the AI. Once an AI can improve upon itself, and then its improved version can improve itself even better, just like in the movie transcendence, the repercussions will be unfathomable.

    • @ravenous14
      @ravenous14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much how we got to the precision machining we know today haha

    • @D9ID9I
      @D9ID9I ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how robots will enslave human being one day.

    • @literalghost929
      @literalghost929 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@D9ID9I Don't think we'll get to that point. Humanity in the next couple of decades will suffer the repercussions of overpopulation and there's a very good chance that society will collapse, there will be mass human starvation, deaths, and anyone who survives will be far more concerned with staying alive and finding food than coding AI.
      So very likely, there won't be an humanity to enslave because humanity is in the final process of making itself extinct. So sentient self improving AI will very likely never get to be born.

  • @WPGinfo
    @WPGinfo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every project that teaches you something you did not know or do before is worth the effort, regardless of the 'result'. This is FUN!

  • @repalmore
    @repalmore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is PERFECT STEM school project. Allowing students to make something they can take home and continue to grow their technology skills. Really cool project.

  • @EngineeringVignettes
    @EngineeringVignettes ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's a great $50 tutorial and educational experience on understanding CNC machines and, more importantly, what is critical to get right when making one. The initial size is not so much of a problem... all CNC machines use the same basic principals.
    Cheers Stefan, nice to see how you are progressing on your channel (I have not made a comment in a long time).

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Eddy, appreciate it! It's a nice change trying another format for some weeks here and I'm glad to see that viewers enjoy it as well.

  • @Londrino
    @Londrino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When all you've got is a 3d printer, something that can make small precise parts like these is a perfect complement.

  • @MrBlakBunny
    @MrBlakBunny ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly be a good place to start, go the route a lot of hobbysts seem to "Build the thing to build the thing to upgrade the thing to build the thing"
    I could see using this to make more detailed parts, and slowly upgrading the machine over time

  • @CNCmachiningisfun
    @CNCmachiningisfun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW!
    I just had a HUGE CNC mill delivered to my farm today, and it took a crew of skilled staff to set it up, so it is such a great pleasure to see this tiny homemade machine going thru its paces.
    Well done, guys :) .

  • @ThomasTheFapEngine
    @ThomasTheFapEngine ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I spent a year building my first CNC, and then learning how to use it. It was tough at times, but totally worth it, even just from a financial perspective, it payed for itself within the first year of use.

    • @primonomeultimonome
      @primonomeultimonome ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How have you been using it during this time?

    • @ThomasTheFapEngine
      @ThomasTheFapEngine ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@primonomeultimonome For anything and everything, except steel. The z axis is mostly made from timber so I can't push it too hard. But I've got a second one for that stuff now, much stronger, much faster, and much bigger. :D

    • @Z3DZ3R0
      @Z3DZ3R0 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did it pay for itself? Did you make parts for other people for a price or make parts to sell?

  • @iangirvan8141
    @iangirvan8141 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    In my experience, building a 3D printer based on old CD drives not only broaden my understanding of 3D printing but also machine control in general. My aim in doing it wasn't to create a practical printer, but the fun and the challenging in actually doing it. I fully related to the water bottle Z-axis counter weight! I used combination of fishing sinkers as my counter weights. Cool post.

  • @Guardian_Arias
    @Guardian_Arias ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Agreed, a diy cnc, printer, lathe, band saw, or 120cm x 60cm router table is a great way to learn a lot about machining fast. I made a massive router table and it lead me down a path to learn about flat surfaces. Although not cnc there is still a lot to be learned about feed speeds and spindle speeds that are intuitively learned from manually feeding stock.

  • @robertobrenes5283
    @robertobrenes5283 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I built a cheap CNC back in 2017 using arduino UNO, plywood and nema 17 and the whole process opened my eyes !

  • @sedon7098
    @sedon7098 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Always great to get an accessible option. And i always love the idea of fully building something yourself to get a sense how it works.

  • @thethubbedone
    @thethubbedone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked on a large industrial CNC mill that used a simple weight to counterbalance the Z axis. I love the water bottle counterbalance

  • @tozpeak
    @tozpeak ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a cool solution with counterweight! I definetely will remember this, it is a good way to move a heavy part if much less force available.

    • @Crushonius
      @Crushonius ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its literally how an elevator works i thought this was common knowledge

    • @tozpeak
      @tozpeak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crushonius it is a common obvious knowledge if your number one task is to lift things. But using it to compensate a weak servo is kinda clever. First thought would be just taking bigger servo and calling it done.

  • @Carbon_
    @Carbon_ ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a cool addition to a 3d printer. You can do the heavy parts with the 3d printer and the small and detailled parts with the CNC

  • @PaulDominguez
    @PaulDominguez ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love these short DIY build vids that fire up the imagination. But please don't stop making the science type analysis vids.

  • @yeroca
    @yeroca ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can this little machine not be useful and super fun?
    Thanks for posting this!

  • @planckstudios
    @planckstudios ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Those parts are beautiful! Great find at the show - love seeing a maker's home brew precision break through a common barrier. Besting the dremel collet's runout is badass

  • @PaulDominguez
    @PaulDominguez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the built in water bottle holder

  • @reverse_engineered
    @reverse_engineered ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this is a great idea. Lots of these things could be scavenged or would be available in leftovers from another project. The main materials are available at your local hardware store - no need to buy things online and pay for shipping. The larger parts (like the rotary tool) you might already have or could be used for other things.
    The size might be too small for some things, but it's large enough for a lot of small, detailed pieces where that small collet and bit would make sense. You could even size it up without too much trouble. For the cost, I think it's a great platform for getting started in designing, assembling, and troubleshooting something like this. It's a much smaller investment and less dangerous than starting with larger, more expensive machines.
    There's also plenty of room to start upgrading it. You can use HDPE or aluminum for the frame, larger ACME lead screws and stepper motors, a proper spindle, add a small pump and some oil for lubrication and cooling, and so much more. You can do it in steps, replacing one part at a time, while maintaining a working machine.
    This isn't so different from the CNC mill my hackerspace first build over 10 years ago and we still use it to this day. We started with a larger frame and a trim router instead of a rotary tool, but considering the difference in scale, I think the capabilities would otherwise be quite similar. Building such a large machine required some expensive parts that weren't easy to get, whereas something smaller like this is much more approachable and obtainable.
    Now that I don't have a CNC mill of my own, but I do have a laser cutter and 3D printer, I'm tempted to build something along these lines. I might not go with quite as cheap of linear actuators, but otherwise it's not that different from building a small 3D printer.
    Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @boiclyde
    @boiclyde ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Almost a pocket CNC! This is wild, imagine just spending a little extra money on materials. I'm excited to see where the project goes and what the community will do with it.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out "PocketNC". It's more than a little extra money but you can call it "aspirational" :)
      (apparently comments with links look too much like spam)

  • @amethystleigh4646
    @amethystleigh4646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my first thought was that this would be worthless because of its miniscule build area, but then i realized that by bulding this machine i could then use that gained knowledge to the n build myself a larger, more powerful machine, and that knowledge would also be priceless for future projects!

  • @homemadetools
    @homemadetools ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clever. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @TechsScience
    @TechsScience ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing
    The hanging water bottle made me amazed

  • @flatline-timer
    @flatline-timer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad is going to LOVE this video...

  • @tvathome562
    @tvathome562 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent RepRap spirit, taking things back to basics....overcoming issues on a budget the reason why we have 3d printers now... I think I could build that for about $ 50, by salvaging parts and buying second hand, I don't see an issue again its overcoming issues by being creative.

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the "filter"

  • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
    @Breakfast_and_Bullets ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course, the year I can't make it to MRRF all my favorite creators are there and people bring amazing builds. I'm gonna have to build one of these.

  • @FreshAlacrity
    @FreshAlacrity 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very excited to see an inexpensive CNC for milling tiny parts! That's exactly what I was looking for ✨

  • @jimmysgameclips
    @jimmysgameclips ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so cool! I've wondered about this idea because like, why not. A dremel CAN do it

  • @rklauco
    @rklauco ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing - would fit on any desk, which is advantage comparing to the off-the-shelf CNC machines. I've learned from printing that making the biggest parts is far from the most important capability.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      The small footprint and chip/dust containment are a couple of my favorite things about this that make it usable without dedicating space for it.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, and just look at his dust filtering solution 😉

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like all tools, each has a set problem space where it works well, and many that it wouldn't be an ideal solution enabler. So no don't think this too janky a CNC machine.
    For someone wanting to learn about CNC machine fundamentals, this would be a great learning. The amount of learning provided for $50 is exceptional value.
    For creators making jewelry, or other smaller items this could be a pragmatic way to learn and test design ideas. Bigger is not always better.

  • @AzaB2C
    @AzaB2C ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree with Stefan. Turned my 4 feet x 8 feet self built CNC on today. Great learning experience.

  • @caseykline2327
    @caseykline2327 ปีที่แล้ว

    The potential I see here is for making small injection molded parts. Being able to make a reusable high definition mold for that just at home with minimal cost is amazing

  • @HoffmanTactical
    @HoffmanTactical ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was young I always wanted to do one of these!

  • @imqqmi
    @imqqmi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love building machines, I've went through several iterations of 3d printer as well as cnc machines. I've started out with kits and ended up building my own. I spend quite a bit of money so ai can't say it's a minimalist approach, but apso not the most difficult one. I can hughly recommend building your own, I had a lot of fun during these projects. Now I enjoy using them. The 3d prins and cnc parts are leaps and bounds ahead of what I could do with the kits I started out with.

  • @DonsArtnGames
    @DonsArtnGames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🤣I was LITERALLY just thinking about making my own mini mill when this popped up on my recommended videos list... Methinks it's a sign...

  • @hithere2561
    @hithere2561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Things that actually work dont have to look good. Every journey have to start with first step and this project seems like really good first step for me. I can bet that this machine will be first step for many future backyard engineers or maybe even real engineers.

  • @Rebar77_real
    @Rebar77_real ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Perfect if you need plenty of small things without tying up a larger machine.
    You can get flexible extensions for rotary tools. Wouldn't that solve some weight issues if you could mount the actual tool separately?

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was a "MicroMill" Kickstarter that used a rotary tool+flex shaft. (apparently links in comments look too much like spam)
      In this case, the other problem is that the shallow pitch lead screws chatter when loaded in the direction of motion, so the Z axis needs counterbalance to move downward even with no tool mounted. Assuming success, the next rev will lose the Z leadscrew and the whole problem will go away.

  • @Terminarch
    @Terminarch ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always had this dream of getting a big workshop and slowly manufacturing my own machines from only starting with hand tools, spare parts, and scrap material.
    This is inspirational, to say the least.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, starting from laser cut parts cuts across your idea of starting with hand tools, but please do take any ideas from here that help you on your way!

  • @rcmaniac25
    @rcmaniac25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome project! I still love the counter weight water bottle, even if he's solved it.

  • @RandallStephens397
    @RandallStephens397 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "many of us may have [a dremel] at home that we rarely use"
    I feel attacked. >_>

  • @whyldthing86
    @whyldthing86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a good start-up project.

  • @literallykey3298
    @literallykey3298 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super cool and clever! Hopefully I can make one someday, looks like a fun project.

  • @ph0t0dave
    @ph0t0dave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this thing is awesome! We need more people coming up with things like these to spark the imaginations of others and help to move more innovations forward! :) Im definitely going to take a closer look at this thing and maybe even try to 3Dprint the MiniMill. I already have at least 4 projects where I think this would be very useful. Thanks for sharing this!

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙂
      3D printing the cut parts might work. I suspect that re-casting some of the ideas of this project into a new design for 3D printing could gain from opportunities to do things differently.
      Either way, I'd love to hear from anyone who tries.

    • @ph0t0dave
      @ph0t0dave ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulmcclay8697 Hey Paul Thanks for replying. I'm currently in the early stages of building a Voron 2.4r2 but after that I may look at ways to incorporate 3d printing into a build of your CNC. if I get anywhere with it Ill definitely send you a note as I love building different things especially when I can use those things to build other things lol and I have gone through a number of projects over the last 40 plus years lol. ! :)

  • @madadivad1986
    @madadivad1986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still can’t believe I missed this…I live just a couple hours away from there!

  • @Logan.
    @Logan. ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got into your channel, never knew this gathering existed, and it's right in my backyard! If you plan on being at the next one, I'll see ya there!

  • @tonyhere7004
    @tonyhere7004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could be pretty nice for making functional cuts in small metal parts, if you had an idea for a novel heatblock face geometry or similar

  • @_spartan11796
    @_spartan11796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super clever!

  • @MisterKaen
    @MisterKaen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool I was looking for ideas for my next machine.
    Altering coins with new faces alone makes this project worth it.
    A pepe nickle would be one of the coolest things.

  • @michaelhagerman1074
    @michaelhagerman1074 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro is using a covid mask as a dust filter! I love it.

  • @jauken83
    @jauken83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I assume the aquarium air pump is for blowing chips away from the bit? That's pretty genius!

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. It's very "proof of concept" and obviously not well integrated, but it does prove that it doesn't take much air to be useful if directed right at the action.
      I'm still thinking about how to do it with less bulk and better integration.

  • @martial4matters
    @martial4matters 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    don't know if you saw that but he is recreating the minamil parts to be 3d printed so no more laser cutting needed. pretty exciting! :)

  • @spankeyfish
    @spankeyfish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As somebody who owns both of them, the easiest workaround for the runout on the Dremel spindle is to buy a Proxxon IBS/E. Proxxons are much, much more precisely made but also more fragile.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      In some parallel universe, I agree. But I tried a succession of three IBS/Es (Amazon exchanges) and gave up.
      The first one had small enough runout with good repeatability, which I liked, but excess axial free play. The next two had better, maybe ok, but not great axial play but poor runout. And runout+repeatability=bad.
      So, serious question: Has Proxxon become an empty brand now, or should I wait some time for bad stock to turn over and try again?

    • @spankeyfish
      @spankeyfish ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulmcclay8697 Dunno, I got mine in 2018 and it's been perfect. I also have the right angle version (same year) which is a bit janky in that there's _a lot_ of backlash in the bevel gears. Maybe they downgraded to cheaper bearings at some point :(

  • @ingusmant
    @ingusmant ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could be good for small PCBs

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so cool. I kind of want to make one now. Certainly a useful scale: my 3d printer gets pretty annoying heat creep unless I print at large layer sizes, so my precision looks a lot lower than that.

  • @LonersGuide
    @LonersGuide ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Improvisation has a beauty which a perfectionist can never attain. --Me

  • @ruuman
    @ruuman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it!

  • @EvertvanIngen
    @EvertvanIngen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That LCD monitor was straight from 2005 👏🤣

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bona fide trash pick. It's what I had that fit in the case I wanted to use. It did the job. :)

  • @kcbrandao3802
    @kcbrandao3802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this. such a hands on way to learn and have something to toy around with at the end.

  • @andreasthaler7068
    @andreasthaler7068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Das ist ja geil!

  • @RomanoPRODUCTION
    @RomanoPRODUCTION ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it is so cute. so tiny.

  • @arminth
    @arminth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you have a 3D printer, you could check out MPCNC. Quite a bit more expensive, but way more capable. From a learning perspective, pretty much on par (maybe even better).

    • @teguh.hofstee
      @teguh.hofstee ปีที่แล้ว

      After what happened a couple years ago with the creator? No thanks.

    • @tomatguitar
      @tomatguitar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teguh.hofstee What happened with creator?

    • @teguh.hofstee
      @teguh.hofstee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomatguitar Thomas Sanladerer has a video about it. TL;DR: he made a part for the MPCNC and released it as CC0, creator copyright claims against him because it's supposedly a derivative work and having monetization on videos supposedly goes against the original license. A part designed from scratch to fit/upgrade an existing machine is not a violation of copyright and if that's how the creator wants to see it regardless of anything else I want nothing to do with it. The whole situation is a bit of a mess on both sides but that one point is pretty clearly in Tom's favor.

  • @devilking198
    @devilking198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think like you too. This is not a waste of time. If anyone can make it, he also makes a big one without any effort.

  • @toctoc9927
    @toctoc9927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is sooo janky but at the same SO cool and creative, I don't even know what to say 😂

  • @piconano
    @piconano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since I built my 3D Prusa RepRap some 12 years ago, I haven't had any use for a mill.
    If I want a part in metal, I'll print it in PLA and use it as a mold to sand cast it in aluminum or brass.
    I agree 100%. If you wanna know something, study. If you wanna know something well, built it.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to try some casting from 3d printed positives - that actually got a boost up the list recently...

    • @dekutree64
      @dekutree64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulmcclay8697 I've done a few, and failed a surprisingly large number of times even with the help of my father who did a lot of gold and silver jewelry casting in the past. Aluminum forms such a thick oxide skin, it's hard to tell if a small quantity is actually melted or not. And then if you heat it much above the melting temperature it dissolves hydrogen from the atmosphere and comes out full of little bubbles. Larger pieces without any thin sections would probably be easy though.
      Use natural PLA so it burns out completely and doesn't leave any pigment residue in the mold. There's no need for carefully controlled burnout temperature. My dad's old burnout oven is just a hot plate burner in an enclosure made of fire clay, no temperature control. Leave it in there until there doesn't seem to be any plastic left, and then give it another 20-30 minutes to be sure. Let the mold cool down some before pouring, else the aluminum stays liquid in there for several minutes (found out the hard way).

    • @dekutree64
      @dekutree64 ปีที่แล้ว

      Casting plus machining is awesome though. Save a lot of time and money compared to machining from a solid block, but still get high precision where you need it.

  • @adamfilipowicz9260
    @adamfilipowicz9260 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Old Lulzbot mini with broken controller and old Wade 2.8mm extruder. this is enspiring me to convert it into a small CNC

  • @markmorgan8378
    @markmorgan8378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very cool

  • @TheSuitedEngineer
    @TheSuitedEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obadiah: "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!"

  • @kelvinwolf225
    @kelvinwolf225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! Great video Stefan, I am loving the content lately. What do you think about converting a 3d printer into a CNC machine? I'd love to cut carbon fiber for custom drone parts!

    • @dekutree64
      @dekutree64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try cutting underwater with diamond bits. They chew through carbon with very little force, and the water keeps it cool and contains the dust.

  • @yourlocaltoad5102
    @yourlocaltoad5102 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always have to smile when I hear where the festival is, as „Goshen, Indiana“ sounds quite similar to „Goschn Indiana“, which would be austrian for „Shut up Indiana“.
    I can only imagine that this is exactly what we would hear quite often in an austrian dub of the „Young Indiana Jones“-show they once made.

  • @winandd8649
    @winandd8649 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:07 "Proper printing" host spotted 🤟😄

  • @dennisdecoene
    @dennisdecoene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: but it's laser cut! Stefan: you can even print it with pla. Me: challenge accepted.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙂
      3D printing the cut parts might work. I suspect that re-casting some of the ideas of this project into a new design for 3D printing could gain from opportunities to do things differently.
      Either way, I'd love to hear from anyone who tries.

  • @bluedeath996
    @bluedeath996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see if granite chopping boards cemented together as the base and back would make it stiffer and able to move a little faster.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rigidity of the base hasn't been a limiting factor so far. It would be great to see cheap compact motion parts developed to where base material is the next necessary upgrade!

  • @XenonG
    @XenonG ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It can precision mill small parts, far from useless.

  • @medyk3D
    @medyk3D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:28 even a small CNC is wearing a face mask these days 🤣

  • @foodhatesme
    @foodhatesme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is more of an educational project rather than a practical one. It's an interesting project nonetheless and I'll probably do it for the experience.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to hear from you when you when you do! (get started, have questions, comments, whatever)
      While it's designed to be reproducible, the actual fact of reproducibility remains unproven afaik. And I'd appreciate comments on the build doc/process.

  • @zakm0n
    @zakm0n ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hah! I'm in a CNC kitchen video! It's just my massive ass, but still.

  • @openlink9958
    @openlink9958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know those videos that you know are getting like a million views only because of the thumbnail?
    I'm pretty sure this will be one eventually

  • @markwilliams5654
    @markwilliams5654 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reprap master race open source everything

  • @habiks
    @habiks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought dremel some 10+ years ago, returned it to shop the same day (the most crappy tool ever), switched to proxxon and using it ever since.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. I think Paul even mentioned to me that he changed to a Proxxon.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tried a Proxxon IBS/E, almost liked it, tried a couple of exchanges that were worse, and gave up.
      I wonder if Proxxon has become an empty brand since you bought yours.
      Anyone out there bought one lately?
      (semi-duplicate reply)

  • @GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE
    @GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess if you have the parts and it's all you got it's what you got to work with

  • @asdfdfggfd
    @asdfdfggfd ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL, I use my Dremmel tool all the time. whenever i need to grind a bit of metal smaller and more detail than my grinder can get.

  • @GNARGNARHEAD
    @GNARGNARHEAD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that's awesome. still waiting for the maker community to pick up on Electro Discharge Machining EDM, using a spark to ablate metals for incredibly precise cutting.. even as a intermediate electronics enthusiast I manages to build a spark generator, with some oversight from some engineer buddies a few years back, it's nothing more than a timed discharge of some capacitors through MOSFETs.. anyways, food for thought

    • @sebastianjezierski8450
      @sebastianjezierski8450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ben from Applied Science built one, but he used some professional hardware. The hard part is controlling movement (you need to adjust it based on current, backing up if it gets too high) and also keeping EMI under control.

    • @dekutree64
      @dekutree64 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was looking into it a while back, but am able to get by with my mini mill so can't justify spending the time and money. There is at least one person on hackaday making a sinker EDM machines using the motion system from a cheap 3D printer, which is exactly what I would do. If you're good at scavenging parts for the water system and spark generator the whole machine could be built for cheap, but transformers are expensive new. Ben Fleming's pulse EDM book is great.

  • @DejitaruJin
    @DejitaruJin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's almost identical to how I set up the first 3D printer that I built. Now that I have a 'real' 3D printer, I imagine I could repurpose the mechanics & Arduino Uno for this sort of project instead...

  • @naren4wood560
    @naren4wood560 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey hey, im also intrested in cncing, but the biggest prob i run in is the electrics, im a bit scared when it comes to the buy and put together part of the electronics, so maybe you can recoment me someone that shows what to buy how to cable and how to intall in aclear and easy way?
    thx for the great videos, im going to start 3d printing also when my new 3d printer comes :D

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see someone take this a bit further and invest a few hundred dollars in aluminum rails, maybe a heavy steel bed or frame. And see how rigid they can get this thing. Would be incredible in my opinion.

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree :)
      ...or invest a few thousand dollars in a "PocketNC"... Also :)
      (would link, but apparently that looks to much like spam)

  • @niktimofey
    @niktimofey ปีที่แล้ว

    Стоит не забывать включая в стоимость проекта одну деталь - фрезер или гравёр, кои стоят минимум 20$

  • @user-tw2kr6hg4r
    @user-tw2kr6hg4r ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you make a video about the new volcano CHT nozzle?

    • @user-tw2kr6hg4r
      @user-tw2kr6hg4r ปีที่แล้ว

      So far I couldn't find anything about it except for the BondTech and the 3DJake site.

  • @REDxFROG
    @REDxFROG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd move the drill horizontal

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would too -- that was the idea I started with.
      But it didn't work because shallow pitch lead screws, in some circumstances of which this is one, chatter hard when loaded in the direction of motion. If you roll the XY table on its side with the "top" axis vertical, it will easily run up but fail to move its own weight back down at any useful speed. So the XY table works only when close to horizontal.
      This is a problem I didn't expect and still don't see much common information about, so it's not like you overlooked something obvious.

  • @lastundani3348
    @lastundani3348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Review on proper printing belt extruder, when?

  • @imwatching2901
    @imwatching2901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not saying I’m lazy but is there away I can buy one pre-built 😁

    • @paulmcclay8697
      @paulmcclay8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Find someone who built one & got far enough into CNC to warrant a bigger stronger machine. 😀
      I don't expect the design in this form to make sense for selling built machines because there is a lot of manual assembly. A design for complete assembly in quantity would probably use some up-front investment to reduce per-unit hand work.

  • @kuman64
    @kuman64 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u make a video on how to programming this arduino uno for this cnc?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just search for "GRBL Arduino Tutorial" - you'll find a ton!

  • @LakeTile_Productions
    @LakeTile_Productions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm working on similar project

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear! I hope you share your results.

    • @LakeTile_Productions
      @LakeTile_Productions ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CNCKitchen Coming soon on my channel

    • @LakeTile_Productions
      @LakeTile_Productions ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CNCKitchen But also thank you so much Stefan for your videos, you helped me much!

  • @milestailprower
    @milestailprower ปีที่แล้ว

    Up next, overclock your $1 laser pointer into a laser cutter 🤯

  • @jonathanvoshell7914
    @jonathanvoshell7914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, the Coding of this is the only thing that peaks my interest.