@@noface181 Are you being truthful or did you post this comment for some sort of validation for your irresponsible choice to quit a job without any real back-up plan? I’m asking this question because I find your post to be extremely misleading because this channel is about learning the best processes to go through before quitting your job.
@@fishercourt it's not irresponsible if your mental health is suffering. 1 suicide every 40 seconds in the world, my guess is work stress is a part of it.
Other reasons people quit that are determined as “good cause”: illness, pregnancy(if maternity leave is not offered), domestic care of children/newborns/disabled or elderly family members ( if no other options are available), workplace harassment, working conditions(Ex. Toxic chemicals), etc. all considered “good cause” under Unemployment Insurance
I'm on a razor's edge to quit today, and this came out. 6-7 projects and doing the work of three people while being expected to answer IT issues (not my department) Such a pain in the ass.
Do the best you can. Breathe. If you get fired, you still get unemployment. I’ve been stressed to the point of tears a few times. Focus on your health and do 1 day at a time. Been looking for for a job for 10 months.
I quit my job last March and I don't regret it. I couldn't stand the corporate workplace and decided to leave to enjoy my life and take care of my elderly parents. I am not worried about finding work and I am living off my savings and live with my parents as they provide shelter and food while I take care of them. I do some side jobs and freelance so I am good as far as finance.
You don’t regret it because you’re living with mommy and daddy. The biggest expense for people is rent or the mortgage and your parents cover yours. So yeah I’m sure you’re living the dream I guess.
As insane as it may sounds, keeping an absolutely awful job until you’ve lined up a new one is better than quitting it outright. Yes, quitting a job you HATE is an amazing feeling BUT that good feeling wears off VERY FAST. Especially in this today’s job market, finding another job can take at least 6 months. Having little to no income can be just as stressful, if not more, than holding a bad job.
Exactly and job gaps always arouse suspicion from hiring managers. You can have the most amazing background, but they’ll focus on the gap like a laser beam.
The problem of staying at a job you hate waiting is going to wear down on you. It'll make you look desperate/emotional trying to get the new job and interviewers sense that. You need to be in a good place to present your best self. That doesn't happen getting thrash daily by a toxic place.
@@a012345 With all due respect, your log is flawed. All one does when they quit a job before finding another is wear themselves down way faster than holding a terrible job while looking. Trust me. I’ve been in both situations and having no/lack of income coming in is INSANELY stressful.
I was a CPA certified corporate controller for years. Made good money, good benefits, etc, etc, etc. And I was miserable. So, I made an escape plan. I adopted a minimalist lifestyle. I paid my house and vehicles off, pay my credit card balance off to avoid interest each month, etc. Debt is what makes us all slaves to the grind. And I played that game for way too many years. Having no debt has been the most life affirming thing I've ever experienced to date. Do I miss being a controller or CFO? What do you think........
I'm guessing you miss it about as much as I miss being a software architect. I gave that up about 4 years ago and went back to being a developer which is what I've always preferred. Best decision ever for me. Retired this spring, no debt for over 10 years, it is indeed liberating, in more ways than one.
What do you hate about it? I know people who wish that got into accounting b/c of the safety. I don't know but I'm wondering what you dislike about it.
For once in my life I had perfect timing. I changed jobs at the best time, during the pandemic when IT staff were in demand and just having finished a higher degree in the field. The project I had been working in at the previous job was terminated just after I left and 100 people lost their jobs. This job is boring, but it's the best money I've ever earned. I am unlikely to get anything similar and at my rapidly advancing age, even getting another job might be impossible. I am staying in this job until I die or they sack me.
@@PreppyPrincess777 Exciting job means you work way more for low pay. Look at people in the gaming industry. They lowball you because they know the alure and tons of gullible people want into the field.
I kept a job in a toxic environment with an abusive boss for years. It ruined my health and life. Now I have severe health issues and probably will not live long. Prepare to quit, but don’t stay so long that your boss kills you.
This is the comment that applies to me. Off sick now at the recommendation of my doctor - I just can't take how ill the position is making me any more. Will definitely be using the time to job search, but it's also refreshing to hear that I should plan/prepare to hunker down while I look, because of the current economic situation. Means I can prepare and get the support in place to get through this final stretch.
Im sing 34 i have descent job, but not enough to give my parents the best life, and i also want to make more money to save insurance, savings when i grow old alone and ofcourse give my parents better life now. Should i go somewhere far in order to do what i want, i was also thinking i have to be with my family and do normal life although i still have siblings living with my parent.
I did the same thing, then found a new job, very similar level of toxic environment. Didn't put up with it, quit again. I don't know whats going on in the work world, but people need to grow the fuck up. I have no problem working, but toxic and abusive environment. Nope.
That's like saying I shouldn't break up with my toxic girlfriend until I find another one. Sometimes, you need a clean break and take a leap of faith to get to the better side.
I disagree at 5:05. The average job/employer in America is toxic. This is largely caused by there being little to no labor protections for employees, which cause employers to have all the leverage and exploit every last ounce out of the workers. You can thank the BBs and their abysmal voting patterns for causing this (as well as the housing crisis).
I’m back working where I got fired twice in the past because it’s under new management, and there’s only one lady who was involved in my firings still there, and I’m tiptoeing around her; she’s technically not my boss, and I get the feeling the boss told her to be nice to me. This situation was better than my previous position, where apparently my boss’s boss got off on threatening to fire people, and I was told I had to endanger people’s safety… for safety reasons. 😑 Yes; most workplaces are bad for our health; the question is more how bad! 😬
@@BOSSDONMAN I agree I live in Illinois and employers have a at will document you have to sign before you are hired telling you they can fire you at any given reason without telling you. How messed up is that
the average candidate job hunting is toxic. they have very little to offer, misrepresent their (lack of) skills, are usually unemployed/looking for a good reason, and often try to manipulate the legal landscape to not be removed like an unwelcomed Airbnb squatter. one notable example is Bossdonman who comes on youtube to complain.
Your not a slave to your job ...you are a slave to the financial system...most people should not quit their job until they have a secure place to leap.
If you're gunna quit, do it AFTER you secure a new job. If its very bad and you can't find anything, just do the bare minimum to maintain the job and do your best. If you must quit, make sure you acknowledge the risk and have 12-18 months of emergency fund/credit to maintain your dwelling and basic necessities. Don't even do that honestly, stick it out. Getting healthier helps, makes you capable of more, letting things slide off you better. Processed foods and sugar destroy our health, energy, sleep, and mood. I know it sounds random but its not, health is the foundation for EVERYTHING. If you're low on options at least work on that, it does help, genuinely.
@@Jake38nine Alone no, that isn't what I said. Having a large amount of credit available alongside a years emergency fund means just in case you hit the worst case scenario and can't find a new job in a year, at least you can go potentially another year and acrue some debt, instead of losing your home or worse. Of course it should be a last last resort, but in that scenario that seems to be getting more common I think its a fair extra backup plan to have. Does not replace an emergency fund and of course everything should be done to get a job before it gets to that point. Credit isn't a bad thing. Use it as a debit and pay off monthly to build a credit score, and outside of that only for emergencies where money now, pay later over time is actually a benefit (like the potential situation above!).
True about health. I've started getting into weightlifting starting in August, and I'm getting good feedback from people regarding visible changes in my appearance. But I also went through periods of fatigue probably due to trying too hard to gain muscle while losing weight. So I looked into what to do, it turns out one of the best answers is to spend time RECOVERING. Like, the example given by a gentleman with a PhD in sports science (Dr Mike Izraetel from his Renaissance Periodization youtube channel) is professional athletes: You'd think they are training all the time, but in reality, when they aren't doing their very real training and practice, they are doing NOTHING. They sit around and eat a bunch of protein and healthy carbs, and play videogames or smoke some weed and chill. And that means when gametime rolls around, they are fully recovered mentally and physically to go all out. So now, when I feel fatigued mentally and physically, I take at least an hour and just make it mean nothing, which helps me de-stress and remember to smile! It's crazy, but sometimes I think I can actually feel the happiness slowly crawling it's way back into my body during recovery.
It sucks because jobs comes down to connections now :/ It’s sucks that people are forced to stay at a job that’s messed up their mental health because of the job market I hope things get better in the future for all of us because we are struggling
It doesn't really come down to connections now, either. I've been up for several jobs where I had connections to the hiring managers or to the company, and I've not had any offers. Been job hunting for 9 months now. There just are very few jobs out there and a huge number of people competing for the few that there are. It's not what you know and it's not who you know, either. This may sound cold, but I have little to no sympathy right now for anyone unhappy at their job, because at least they HAVE a job, and at least they have an income. Bottom line, you leave your job now, you're not finding another one.
I regret not retiring 2 years earlier than I did. I could have. More time could have been spent with several friends, whose time I didn't know was running out. My own health is deteriorating. I did a job that used to be done by three people, and those last 2 years weren't worth it.
What if your job is basically a silent killer? I have got major heart issues because of my job, and I don't care anymore if the job market sucks right now. I can't work if I'll be dead.
Doesn't matter. 90% of ALL jobs out there on Indeed and other lists ARE GHOST JOBS. They're not real, just listed to make employees of a company THINK the company is going to hire someone to help them. Also if you are over 50... AGE DISCRIMINATION IS THE NEW NORM. Unless you have the $$ to retire... Don't do it.
Be aware,,, the older you are (specially 45+) ,,, the longer it will take to find another job… 6 months to a year, and there are a lot of older people who never find employment again. . Don’t risk it.
He's right. I've been unemployed since February and only NOW ended up landing something. Granted, the first few months I went on a vacation and had to take care of my father, but I dipped into savings and got into a bit of a depression. It took me 8 months to find something comparable and I still took a slight pay cut.
Unions are accelerating the move by manufacturers to Mexico and non-union states. I suspect that Boeing regrets not moving out of the NW area years ago when it had a chance to escape the unions. Union autoworkers will be suffering greatly as auto manufacturers lay off as consumers can no longer afford overpriced, low-quality vehicles and high interest rates.
@@theplaintiff5450 not all union jobs are manufacturing or can be automated, lot of trades are union like electricians or other skilled labor. Lot of quality problems on the 787 mostly came from the non union Charleston plant where management feels more free to push the boundaries of safety.
I’ve been hearing about quitting jobs for very low-bar reasons recently. The reality is no job will be perfect. Figure out what you are willing to put up with in order to live the best life you can, but searching for a holy grail perfect job will just result in disappointment for life.
@@Jac735i totally agreed. My hub loves his job so much he work for family owned cabinets business. The owner is 1 in a million you will never find this man again. The perfect boos. Every Christmas he get bounces $ 15000 plus expensive restaurant for the while employee( 8 employee) and present. His boos paid for my hub dental care $4000 no payback. To be honest my hub does a lot for him as well business boom because of my husband. They weren't doing too good before he started, this cane out of his boss mouth ( he told me ) what a hard worker my husband is he never met anybody like him and his knowledge. The boos even begged my husband to take a day off, he called in sick once in 5 years because he was very sick. The boos was so happy when my hub told he need one off because of personal business his boos was so happy lol this was last Thursday. Me I work for corporate SUCK so bad I am away stress mentally i am drained. I want to quit daily but I can't I make decent money and I do not want to go through job hunting too stressful plus my age I'm 47 going 48 in Dec. I'll suck it up build up my 401k first then will see.
@@shy_donut8307 go door to door with your resume. Then negotiate with low wages to out compete the other candidates. Slowly work your way up by asking for small pay increases every few months.
"Don't stay in one place too long, it looks bad" "Don't quit your job." "If you change jobs, you might regret it" So basically, we are screwed no matter what we do! 🤣
I was let go after 4.5 years at my previous company. It took me 8 months of hard looking and interviewing to land my just now job. At the time of writing this the job market is really not good. Over the last 8 months I spoke to people who regularly told me it took them over a year to find a job after they were laid off. If you have a job be grateful, but there’s no harm in interviewing if you can land another position while in your current job.
I’m quitting on Friday. I was just diagnosed with an illness and the stress is making me sicker. It’s the easiest yet most toxic job I have ever had. Myself and several others have complained about my manager, and nothing has been done in a year. Do I have another job, nope. It will work itself out in the end.
Good luck to you. The stress of not having money and worrying about paying bills including rent is very real for many people so hopefully, things will work out. you have to do what's right for you.
I was under the impression that is generally is not a good idea to quit a job without having something else lined up regardless of the market except in extreme circumstances.
That only works if you have a hybrid or full remote job. Those who are in office 40 hours per week will have to get fired before they can even start looking.
@@lextacy2008not necessarily, if you’re really desperate to leave like i was last year, i was taking recruiter calls during my lunch, and even lied and said i had a family emergency where i did an interview in my car in the parking lot. Got the new job and gtfo I did leave a bad taste in my last employers mouth tho, i gave my 2 weeks and they fired me the next day, i only worked there for a year
This applies to life in general. Dont quit your job unless you either have enough money to hold yourself for a long while or have another job lined up. For example i once quit my better paying job to go work at a grocery store part time. Obviously the pay was not good but i had saved enough money and was working only like two days a week to at least have some money coming in. I was able to breathe and live my live my life for a good year
Wow, that sounds kind of radical but I've had similar ideas of that kind of job for a while to focus on other things too. Was your salary from the part time job enough to at least cover your expenses? Or were you using your savings to complement it?
How awesome. Congratulations. I love that you shared this bc that is ACTUALLY where I am in the journey! I left full time corporate work in 2022 because I wanted a break from the full time corporate schedule and from what I was doing. I wanted to work fewer days. I also, after about 8 years in my field, have simply lost interest (probably never really had it in the first place lol) I deliver part time and it brings me enough money to cover living expenses while also being able to choose if I want to work two days per week or occasionally more than that. I’m loving the flexibility and I’m the type of person who definitely doesn’t mind reducing lifestyle to simply have more time in my life to live and build things of actual interest
@rml151515 it was not. It was mostly food money. Like I mentioned. I made sure to not have much money going out. Meaning. I had no loan payments, and my only bills were rent, phone, internet, groceries. I made sure to save up enough expenses for a year of survivor and my part time job gave me some food income
I am desperate to get out of this position. I just got it and should feel blessed but the environment is toxic and i dont feel fulfilled. I have a lot of anxiety daily about this job and want to change careers entirely.
@mdesnica I have been applying like crazy (10-15 applications a day) but nobody is hiring. I don't want to leave before having something else lined up.
Even on a good economy, you shouldn’t just quit your job. Keep it while you look for something else, otherwise you don’t get to pick, you just have to get whatever they offer you first.
Just got laid off after a company acquisition. I have no backup plan or social support network, no car, and a lease on my apartment until July. Very scared to be honest.
If you have at least a driver's license go to your nearest car dealership and apply for the sales position they usually will give you a base pay I was terrible at selling cars but I lasted for 6 months before I was able to find a real job I've done that same concept three times in my life
I've been unemployed for the past year (Due to a company merger) and I can tell you from experience that it definitely is difficult to find another job in the current standing of the market. My advise to you is stay in your current position while you can and weather out the storm or until you find a better opportunity to immediately jump ship. Working a deadbeat job right now definitely beats continuously being disappointed by ghosted applications and recruiters putting the expectation margin for employment way too high than what they are willing to pay. Not to mention the thousands of ghost job postings that are plaguing the job boards. I've personally given up on trying to apply for a while and develop skills that will not make me reliant on the job market any further.
Thanks for sharing that. What kind of skills would that be? I've been thinking what my next step will be, whether that's soon or in a few years, and I do wonder about skills like you mentioned, that would not make me reliant on the job market any further.
This story of hopping on the IT trending 2020, going through schooling during the pandemic, then landing a job in 2022, then letting that job go because I “didn’t like the way my boss talked to me” is so true. In my case I know I couldn’t have stayed in my job because I am a person who CANT STAND being abused, disrespected, and manipulated, and thank god I saved a lot of money while I worked in that role. I learned the hard way that jobs are not easy to come by. Hello entrepreneurship! I opened a cleaning business. So much better off now.
Yup its funny how the algorithm is pushing all these 2-3 year old videos to me "why you SHOULD quit tech your job now, with no backup or plan" videos lol and im always like "ehh this did not age well"
Thats dodgy. You can bet your ass the company will try to document everything they can to ensure they don't have to pay out that higher rate. Even if you are starving under a bridge.
@@CT-yc4gd the employer can delay but not deny your right to unemployment while you figure things out. At the end if you were simply laid off the state will issue your unemployment.
@@CT-yc4gd A sure fire way to get fired and get unemployment benefits is to file a LEGITIMATE complaint with a government agency. It can be for something as simple as slippery floors.
I’m really fighting the urge to do it, but these people are making very difficult. After watching this vid, I’ll stay put (but keep my ear to the ground).
I just did this and it worked out! I decided to transition out of my current role and give my two weeks notice. Less than a week later, I just got an offer! I'm a career changer though and had been doing an intense job hunt in 2 cities for the better part of 2 year's. I almost gave up hope.
@@MattTHX-io4tksorry that is a scary advice. I am not going through Temp agency ever again. Been there done that not a happy place to be in when your fridge is empty tried to sale your games for food just to tell you they don't want even for free. No I am not taking the leap ever again.
I quit a disaster job in April. Got freelance work last month after interviewing 10+ times for multiple months. If something is causing your life to spiral. Quit something else WILL pop up.
Why is this guy always confirming things I've figured out in my own life? I was thinking just a couple of weeks ago that with everything going on in my industry right now that it is not a good time to try and switch jobs. I'll be in my current job for at least another year because new job prospects are not great at the moment.
As long as you active in your job search like daily you'll will find one and get hired. What i did got 3 interviewed in 2 weeks got hired in 3 weeks. But I didn't quit my job the company was sold.
All those job postings and no replies after sending hundreds of applications and cover letters. I even consider getting rejection 3 months later to be very lucky. I also feel like I won the lottery for getting a job.
I'm holding onto my job for dear life right now. A few short stints in a row and you're an unemployable pariah. Better to just suck it up and deal with it until this situation improves again. This is the exact opposite of 2021.
Today I just got my first job interview sourced through a headhunter, 4 months into my job search. All other headhunter leads prior to this became ghost city. In the old old days, the headhunter leads were actually more likely to turn into real interviews than cold applying. That has actually flipped over time. Things sure have changed, so be careful out there.
I sold my home and quit then moved to the Philippines...very easy to survive off the interest earned from my home sale in SE Asia while still living like a king.
I quit my job with nothing lined up because I was going in circles. How are you supposed to have time to find a new job when youre constantly being overworked?
Believe it or not having a job while applying for another one looks better to employers than being unemployed for a while and looking for a job 😂 Good luck..
Hello. You are right. Finding a job these days is very difficult. Even if you speak/read/write Spanish/English fluently, there is still no job. The only jobs available are service jobs where people are required to lift 5,000 pounds, work overtime, drive many miles, never sleep, & work every holiday. Nobody wants to live like that. If you have a job you hate, keep it. As long as your health/life are not in danger, at least you can still pay bills. Quietly look for a better job & make sure you're really hired before you quit your nightmare job.
Yes it’s harder but I saved enough to last me over 2 years in worst case scenario (moved back with parents) took me 7 months for a new one and god that last job was so toxic I don’t know what psychological effects it could have had on my confidence.. long story short quit if you can afford it.. and only if you can afford it.. but don’t expect a job in less than 5/6 months keep expectations cooled
I think the "toxic" job definition isn't about just unethical or illegal behavior of colleagues or workplace, but what it's doing to the worker physically. Night sweats, panic attacks, passive suicide ideation, etc. are all signs that it's time to move to a different part of the company or find a new job. Also, I agree that now's not the time to quit. Just wait 'til you're laid off. My company right now is going through its 3rd RIF in 10 months and the company's stocks are up on the heels of layoffs! This is the new lever companies use every quarter now to artificially inflate their stocks. Goodbye to staying in a company 3+ years. In Sept alone, I saw 20-40% cuts across customer-facing, engineering, and product teams.
Obviously, financial security for at least 4-6 months is a minimum when thinking of quitting, money that you expect as final payment which can be payment in lieu, redundancy etc( thats what i had). I got to keep most of the money and landed a new job within 2 months. BUT! Its a risk and if you are not used to being out of work, I advise people not to do it as its emotionally draining, believe me! Yes, you have money for the foreseeable future but you have no long term job security yet in place! Very weird situation mentally. This plus the job search aspect which we all know is a huge luck game, being in the right place at the right time etc. You can be the best candidate but you are not getting the job if they don't like you! That's reality. So people should really think hard before quitting and without a job to go to!
I will say if you have an engineering degree, we are seeing a shortage in the Midwest. ESPECIALLY for civil and structural engineers. My company has been growing and have been hiring like crazy. We have tons of work with not enough people to handle it.
That’s solid advice! Quitting a job can be a big risk, especially in a tough market. It’s definitely wise to have a good reason and another offer lined up before making a leap. Sometimes, sticking it out can lead to better opportunities down the line, and being strategic about your career moves is always a smart approach.
I'm 54 and going to HVAC school at night at the local community college. My plan is to finish the 2-year practical experience portion of the licensing process and then farm a few nearby neighborhoods. My niche is offering discount services tailored to people needing to keep their systems hanging on for another year or two. It isn't glamorous, but I know a few guys making a killing at it. Being a retired military officer with a pension helps in getting my plan off the ground. I'll never work for somebody else again if I can help it.
Your Advice is Spot On! I realized a long time ago that finding a job, while you have one, is easier than when you don't. In today's Job Market, this is even more applicable!
I'm glad i live in the UK, with strong employment laws. I went through huge syress at work - was able to get medically signed off for stress, on full pay, some support, eventually leave and move on. Where my skills were valued.
I am a hair away from quitting my job. I’m a registered dietitian working in acute care/inpatient setting and I am paid 10% less an hour than my predecessor and was denied some fringe benefits he had. We graduated from the same undergrad program a year apart, and I have a MS! (He does not). I tried approaching HR about it and got shut down, tried again, shit down again. Tried to continue the conversation and didn’t even get a response to my email. So frustrating! I feel so undervalued here :(
start looking for another job, first! And ask y our friends who are also registered dietitians how they like their jobs and work environment. that will help you decide where to apply, and it might get you an internal jobs referral especially if the pay for employee referrals. That is what convinced me to leave the industry I was in and wind up in tech. Low pay and loads of grief, is awful. At least you can pay one decently.
I graduated in Spring 2023 with a degree in electrical engineering and a computer engineering minor. It took me over 6 months to land what's turned out to be a bait-and-switch dead-end nightmare technician role out of desperation, and now I'm trapped because because I can't even get phone screenings. I'm getting maybe one or two recruiters reaching out per month at best, and they normally schedule the phone screening but ghost me before even doing it. I've even had recruiters ghost me instead of calling me for screenings they scheduled literally the day before. Then there's all the recruiters that I ignore, because they're looking for even lower-paying jobs at the company I'm already working for, which is apparently the only place actually hiring in my city.
Engineering is something you do in your 20's while you figure out what you're actually going to do with your life. Look for your exit now instead of when it's too late.
Something you do in your 20’s??? What? I’m in my 30’s, have my BSEE, and am making solid six figures with great benefits as a mid-level embedded software engineer with ~8 years experience. An EE degree alone is no sure fire way to land a great job making great money. What OP probably failed to do before graduating was to secure good internships that would lead to job offers before graduation. Because of internships and networking, I received two job offers several months before I graduated. Get the degree, network well, and land those internships! It’s essential to do that PRIOR to graduation, or else it’s like applying for jobs while unemployed.
@@billybobthornton8122 Ignorance is bliss! Enjoy! If you want to be miserable, I suggest asking other people what they make and what they're doing to make it.
Big companies are treating people worse than ever and getting away with it bc nobody can quit bc everything is expensive and the job market sucks. And the cycle continues.
I did. Found one within a Day paying more than I was making at the old one. I’m 39 and was making 120k. I’ll be at 135k now. Just walk into the interview like you’re ready to slang some wood. You’ll be ok.
I didn't want to leave but my entire product team decided to quit without a plan after complaining about low salaries and the boss refusing to let employees work 2 days from home and 3 days in the office. And because my last product manager decided to leave, my boss decided to make the decision to make all of us redundant. And now I can't find a job.
I've spent seven years working in a sh*t shop that I hate, all the while watching the job market bob along without a care, even despite Covid. The second I decide to try and move on, the market has a meltdown and tells me to f*ck myself. 146 rejections later, I'm clinically depressed, doped to the gills on antidepressants (that don't work) and trapped in a life that looks a lot like 2019's Joker. A piece of my self-respect is shredded every day and along comes this video, telling me it's probably my best option. Thanks, Brian. I really needed this (That was sarcasm)! Am I cursed, am I the butt of some sick cosmic joke or am I caught in some global capitalist scheme to kill the working class?!
I quit mine almost a month ago everyone knows this saying but it’s easier said than done. Life is too stressful and I’ll always say you hold on as much as possible until you can’t anymore at that point is not worth the stress.
Stress is everywhere. There’s also stress in applying for jobs and getting rejection letter after rejection letter. There’s stress in watching your savings dwindle month after month until there’s nothing left. There’s stress wondering if you’ll need to borrow money from family OR keep accruing debt on your credit cards because you can’t afford to eat. There’s stress paying out of pocket for doctor’s visits because you no longer have health insurance through your employer. Choose your stress.
I was raised that you dont quit your job unless you have another job. It doesn’t make sense to me when people quit with no backup. Your bills dont go on pause when you quit.
If you want to quit just do it just make sure you have at least 6 months of savings. If you dont find a job after 3 months settle for something until you can get the job you want
You should do a compilation of all the people that go viral for quitting their jobs without a job lined up. I’m sure it would be quite entertaining to watch.
Exactly why in the hell would anybody quit a job before having a new one already lined up? (Unless maybe they had a huge amount of money saved and their current job became extremely toxic.) That would not be wise.
😫😫😫 I just told myself I’d quit in oct 31 whether have something line up or not. I’ve been starting to do the bare minimum today on top of my manager having a talk with a toxic coworker and my day is SO much better. Adulting is wild!
I worked at a corporate job, for a company that everyone in the U. S. has heard of. In my department, we averaged about 80 people at any given time. The last year I was there, we had an absolute meltdown by one employee to her boss (he IS a jerk) and about 5 people took LOAs due to burnout (those are the people that told me themselves it was due to burnout, we had 2-3 others with 2 month LOAs where I did not know the reason. I looked for jobs, but did not get them. My friend on another team was 25 and he started having heart problems. A cardiologist told him he needed to reduce his stress and consider quitting his job. He quit. His health is back to normal.
I know this is easier said than done but if you are prepared to walk away from a job out of frustration, to save yourself from stress or frustration, think about this. What if you were to push back and not take the abuse from your boss? What if you were to say that you cannot handle the workload if they have burdened you with unreasonable demands? You might be better to stand your ground and fight and make them fire you before you quit at will. In either case, you will have stress but maybe you just might win if you fight back.
I recently quit because work was citing me for attendance issues when I was on military leave. Thankfully, I was on military leave because well…that comes with it’s own job.
I regularly visit these content creators to get a feel of our economy and prospective moves. You and others have relayed real time information that drew me to the conclusion that making jumps to what would seem to be greener pastures. Would be a horrible idea based on our economic situation. So thank you keep up the great content.
Yep. The job market totally stinks right now. 100% !!!! I have a degree and even I'm struggling to find a job right now. If you're absolutely determined to quit your job without having one already lined up... Be prepared, it's going to awhile.
I have plenty of retail experience. I was even a manager at one point. Now, I can't even get a seasonal job at Nike. This is the worst job market I've seen since 2012. Not my fault I was laid off from Corporate America!
This week we had a big meeting and the higher ups reported that they are letting go 1% of employees across the company. They also said they wouldn’t be backfilling the open positions. We have about 3 on our team. I’ve been with this company for 18 years. I’ve survived 2 mergers and 3 rounds of layoffs. I’m staying put
If you've got a job, it is an AWFUL time to quit and companies know it. On the job seekers end, most people don't even hear back from companies, those that do are subjected to weeks to possibly months of interviews, inflated job and experience requirements, ATS working against you... I had to move back with family and I'm fortunate that I had that option. I don't recommend looking for jobs in the current market. It is an utter shit show.
I got laid off in April of this year. I was managing a project that the company dubbed, "the backbone of the studio", but the client ended up wanting to wrap, so I got laid off. During my 2 years there, there were 3 separate times myself and other staff were only given 70% of our paid salary, then 40%. It made me start to think should I quit? But we were finally told within a month and a half before the project closed that we would be laid off. I held on so I could get Employment insurance (I live in Canada) and I am glad I held out but for sure this job market is crap.
And yet all the people who don't have to worry about their jobs keep gaslighting us about "strong and resilient" nonsense about the economy. It's only "strong and resilient" if you own a house mortgage free and don't need a job. For everyone else, it sucks!
I quit my job because my whole team quit and I was left to do their jobs. I left because I was overworked and felt disrespected. I don’t know what to do now 😢
I think you should quit if you have another role lined up! It doesn’t make sense to stay in a role with limited growth opportunities either just for the sake of being employed. It’s easier to find a job when you are employed.
took me nearly 8-9 months, I got laid off in jan/feb... phone did not ring, prior to Christmas my phone rang of the hook, I was lucky to get my current role, with a decent wage and benefits, I ONLY got it due to making a targetted resume , with good skills and great interview techneque and ACTUALLY I was REALLY LUCKY, they where looking for a skill I had which no-one else had, but only realised I had it when I interviewed. NEVER quit your job
Ty Brian, for giving more clarity on a "toxic" job. If EVERY job you go to is toxic, the job is not the problem. Another bit of excellent advice, is to live far below your means.
Agreed. The job is never the problem. It's the leadership or the employee themselves. I've in a workforce since 16 now 47 still working. Excalty what I noticed.
Here’s the thing most people should’ve reasoned about the “great resignation” . For a society to work you need a core amount of taxpayers and, no, companies are not gonna pick up all the slack. In fact, they are effective at not paying taxes legally. So after enough people quit, the government cannot keep the party going sending everyone COVID checks, and the nation goes into heavy debt and GDP drops and the economy tanks. And as an individual, at some point you run out of money but now you have a bunch other people realizing the same thing coming back to find jobs and now their skills have stagnated, some of their best years for earning income and for getting compound interest gone, heavier in debt cause they never learned to live below their means, and competing for the same McJobs they left but now with a bunch of other people and, maybe, even against cheaper foreign labour applicants (Canada). The great resignation had a short expiration date if you really thought about it even for 5 minutes.
@@JakoWako the people who left for another job are fine assuming they landed a better job. It’s the people who quit to do nothing, especially if they burnt bridges who are on the losing end. I met a few of these people. They thought at worst they were getting a paid vacation courtesy of the Canadian government. They made bogus claims for COVID checks and then eventually they spent the money, the government caught on and sent them letters to repay the money, and then they had no jobs on top of it all and fell way behind on the job market.
I quit today with no backup ... Wish me luck
@@noface181 good luck!
@@noface181 let us know how it goes!
@@noface181 Are you being truthful or did you post this comment for some sort of validation for your irresponsible choice to quit a job without any real back-up plan?
I’m asking this question because I find your post to be extremely misleading because this channel is about learning the best processes to go through before quitting your job.
@@fishercourt it's not irresponsible if your mental health is suffering. 1 suicide every 40 seconds in the world, my guess is work stress is a part of it.
@218Flows I mean if there are no jobs out there, and you go homeless, you might also think about self deletion
In general, you quit only after you have secured your next job.
Unless you have decided to take a break of course.
getting let go is a break- an involuntary one! lol
Be like a monkey: don't let go of one branch until you have a grip on the next branch. Otherwise it could be a long drop.
This is not about being let go. This is about quitting.
Other reasons people quit that are determined as “good cause”: illness, pregnancy(if maternity leave is not offered), domestic care of children/newborns/disabled or elderly family members ( if no other options are available), workplace harassment, working conditions(Ex. Toxic chemicals), etc. all considered “good cause” under Unemployment Insurance
I always take a break, cause my payout is large.
Don't quit. Lie flat for as long as possible while applying for new jobs first. This is how I survived the 2000s-2010s
"lie flat", "act your wage", potato potatoe
“Lie flat” totally got me 😂
Will try to apply it from today
I just did this. I was miserable for a year. I got a firm offer and only quit a week before my relocation.
I feel this intimately. Especially in the latter half of that decade, oof.
That is what I did at my last job, and what I did at my current one until they did pay raises, then I started caring and working harder.
I'm on a razor's edge to quit today, and this came out.
6-7 projects and doing the work of three people while being expected to answer IT issues (not my department)
Such a pain in the ass.
Do the best you can. Breathe. If you get fired, you still get unemployment.
I’ve been stressed to the point of tears a few times. Focus on your health and do 1 day at a time.
Been looking for for a job for 10 months.
I'm with you there except I'm not quitting. I'm trying to take care of my health the best I can.
Quiet quit
@@KennTollens Well ahead of you on that one hahaha.
Don't give up just yet. Try to get something lined up first
I quit my job last March and I don't regret it. I couldn't stand the corporate workplace and decided to leave to enjoy my life and take care of my elderly parents. I am not worried about finding work and I am living off my savings and live with my parents as they provide shelter and food while I take care of them. I do some side jobs and freelance so I am good as far as finance.
Exactly once you turn 40 at least for me you dont have time for HS corporate buffoonery.
I'm doing something similar, I was upset that stinkhole manager wouldn't let me take time off to go on job interviews.
You don’t regret it because you’re living with mommy and daddy.
The biggest expense for people is rent or the mortgage and your parents cover yours.
So yeah I’m sure you’re living the dream I guess.
@@noahknight4039 I am.
@@noahknight4039youre jealous damn. I do the same and its been great
As insane as it may sounds, keeping an absolutely awful job until you’ve lined up a new one is better than quitting it outright. Yes, quitting a job you HATE is an amazing feeling BUT that good feeling wears off VERY FAST. Especially in this today’s job market, finding another job can take at least 6 months. Having little to no income can be just as stressful, if not more, than holding a bad job.
And there's no guarantee the new job is going to be any better.
Exactly and job gaps always arouse suspicion from hiring managers. You can have the most amazing background, but they’ll focus on the gap like a laser beam.
The problem of staying at a job you hate waiting is going to wear down on you. It'll make you look desperate/emotional trying to get the new job and interviewers sense that. You need to be in a good place to present your best self. That doesn't happen getting thrash daily by a toxic place.
@@a012345 You'll still be desperate for a job if you quit too though... your source of income is gone.
@@a012345 With all due respect, your log is flawed. All one does when they quit a job before finding another is wear themselves down way faster than holding a terrible job while looking. Trust me. I’ve been in both situations and having no/lack of income coming in is INSANELY stressful.
I was a CPA certified corporate controller for years. Made good money, good benefits, etc, etc, etc. And I was miserable. So, I made an escape plan. I adopted a minimalist lifestyle. I paid my house and vehicles off, pay my credit card balance off to avoid interest each month, etc. Debt is what makes us all slaves to the grind. And I played that game for way too many years. Having no debt has been the most life affirming thing I've ever experienced to date. Do I miss being a controller or CFO? What do you think........
I'm guessing you miss it about as much as I miss being a software architect. I gave that up about 4 years ago and went back to being a developer which is what I've always preferred. Best decision ever for me. Retired this spring, no debt for over 10 years, it is indeed liberating, in more ways than one.
What do u do now?
I get it. I’m a CPA as well and I hate it. I’m stuck though.
It is the best plan if you hated your job. I do understand you)))
What do you hate about it? I know people who wish that got into accounting b/c of the safety. I don't know but I'm wondering what you dislike about it.
For once in my life I had perfect timing. I changed jobs at the best time, during the pandemic when IT staff were in demand and just having finished a higher degree in the field. The project I had been working in at the previous job was terminated just after I left and 100 people lost their jobs. This job is boring, but it's the best money I've ever earned. I am unlikely to get anything similar and at my rapidly advancing age, even getting another job might be impossible. I am staying in this job until I die or they sack me.
“Exciting” jobs are overrated.
Watch out for age discrimination , in China, you are drummed out at 35, you are ancient at that age, here in USA, it's 56😅
I started work with natural disasters last year. Perfect timing as well. 👍
@@PreppyPrincess777100!! I also do not like traveling for work on salary. It's a good way to have your time taken advantage of.
@@PreppyPrincess777 Exciting job means you work way more for low pay. Look at people in the gaming industry. They lowball you because they know the alure and tons of gullible people want into the field.
I kept a job in a toxic environment with an abusive boss for years. It ruined my health and life. Now I have severe health issues and probably will not live long. Prepare to quit, but don’t stay so long that your boss kills you.
@@bzh7648 I just got over depression from working fastfood for 8 years I'm. Feeling better now
This is the comment that applies to me. Off sick now at the recommendation of my doctor - I just can't take how ill the position is making me any more.
Will definitely be using the time to job search, but it's also refreshing to hear that I should plan/prepare to hunker down while I look, because of the current economic situation. Means I can prepare and get the support in place to get through this final stretch.
Im sing 34 i have descent job, but not enough to give my parents the best life, and i also want to make more money to save insurance, savings when i grow old alone and ofcourse give my parents better life now. Should i go somewhere far in order to do what i want, i was also thinking i have to be with my family and do normal life although i still have siblings living with my parent.
if its affecting mental and physical health then quit its not worth
I did the same thing, then found a new job, very similar level of toxic environment. Didn't put up with it, quit again. I don't know whats going on in the work world, but people need to grow the fuck up. I have no problem working, but toxic and abusive environment. Nope.
That's like saying I shouldn't break up with my toxic girlfriend until I find another one. Sometimes, you need a clean break and take a leap of faith to get to the better side.
Amen.
@@a012345 I think a girl friend does not pay you, but your job pays you. To me, the analogy between a job and a girl friend does not make sense.
I did that with my job in March
Except you can’t use your girlfriend to pay the bills. At least I can’t!
I would've taken that leap of faith as recently as January. now, absolutely not. I haven't seen a job market this bad since 2012.
I disagree at 5:05. The average job/employer in America is toxic. This is largely caused by there being little to no labor protections for employees, which cause employers to have all the leverage and exploit every last ounce out of the workers. You can thank the BBs and their abysmal voting patterns for causing this (as well as the housing crisis).
I’m back working where I got fired twice in the past because it’s under new management, and there’s only one lady who was involved in my firings still there, and I’m tiptoeing around her; she’s technically not my boss, and I get the feeling the boss told her to be nice to me. This situation was better than my previous position, where apparently my boss’s boss got off on threatening to fire people, and I was told I had to endanger people’s safety… for safety reasons. 😑 Yes; most workplaces are bad for our health; the question is more how bad! 😬
@@BOSSDONMAN I agree I live in Illinois and employers have a at will document you have to sign before you are hired telling you they can fire you at any given reason without telling you. How messed up is that
@@vbran1were in Illinois are you located I'm also from there and I didn't know this at all
the average candidate job hunting is toxic. they have very little to offer, misrepresent their (lack of) skills, are usually unemployed/looking for a good reason, and often try to manipulate the legal landscape to not be removed like an unwelcomed Airbnb squatter. one notable example is Bossdonman who comes on youtube to complain.
@@misspat7555it can be bad for our mental health then again you need to keep that job otherwise how will you pay those bills
Your not a slave to your job ...you are a slave to the financial system...most people should not quit their job until they have a secure place to leap.
If you're gunna quit, do it AFTER you secure a new job. If its very bad and you can't find anything, just do the bare minimum to maintain the job and do your best. If you must quit, make sure you acknowledge the risk and have 12-18 months of emergency fund/credit to maintain your dwelling and basic necessities. Don't even do that honestly, stick it out. Getting healthier helps, makes you capable of more, letting things slide off you better. Processed foods and sugar destroy our health, energy, sleep, and mood. I know it sounds random but its not, health is the foundation for EVERYTHING. If you're low on options at least work on that, it does help, genuinely.
DO NOT advise "emergency credit. That's WORSE. SAVE your money and ONLY your money. DO NOT rely on credit.
@@Jake38nine Alone no, that isn't what I said. Having a large amount of credit available alongside a years emergency fund means just in case you hit the worst case scenario and can't find a new job in a year, at least you can go potentially another year and acrue some debt, instead of losing your home or worse. Of course it should be a last last resort, but in that scenario that seems to be getting more common I think its a fair extra backup plan to have. Does not replace an emergency fund and of course everything should be done to get a job before it gets to that point. Credit isn't a bad thing. Use it as a debit and pay off monthly to build a credit score, and outside of that only for emergencies where money now, pay later over time is actually a benefit (like the potential situation above!).
Quitting you job seem to give you more lavage than getting fired right ?
True about health. I've started getting into weightlifting starting in August, and I'm getting good feedback from people regarding visible changes in my appearance. But I also went through periods of fatigue probably due to trying too hard to gain muscle while losing weight. So I looked into what to do, it turns out one of the best answers is to spend time RECOVERING. Like, the example given by a gentleman with a PhD in sports science (Dr Mike Izraetel from his Renaissance Periodization youtube channel) is professional athletes: You'd think they are training all the time, but in reality, when they aren't doing their very real training and practice, they are doing NOTHING. They sit around and eat a bunch of protein and healthy carbs, and play videogames or smoke some weed and chill. And that means when gametime rolls around, they are fully recovered mentally and physically to go all out. So now, when I feel fatigued mentally and physically, I take at least an hour and just make it mean nothing, which helps me de-stress and remember to smile! It's crazy, but sometimes I think I can actually feel the happiness slowly crawling it's way back into my body during recovery.
@@thepunisherxxx6804i love your advice very clear and in detail.
He's right y'all. If you have a job, hold on to it. Its rough out here. Have a job lined up if you must leave.
It sucks because jobs comes down to connections now :/
It’s sucks that people are forced to stay at a job that’s messed up their mental health because of the job market I hope things get better in the future for all of us because we are struggling
It doesn't really come down to connections now, either. I've been up for several jobs where I had connections to the hiring managers or to the company, and I've not had any offers. Been job hunting for 9 months now. There just are very few jobs out there and a huge number of people competing for the few that there are. It's not what you know and it's not who you know, either. This may sound cold, but I have little to no sympathy right now for anyone unhappy at their job, because at least they HAVE a job, and at least they have an income. Bottom line, you leave your job now, you're not finding another one.
I regret not retiring 2 years earlier than I did. I could have. More time could have been spent with several friends, whose time I didn't know was running out. My own health is deteriorating. I did a job that used to be done by three people, and those last 2 years weren't worth it.
I feel u, I'm in the same boat, but I'm doing the job of four. Do this, get that, etc.
I didn't quit my job. My job quit me.
Man turned himself into unemployed. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
Good time to quit is when you are on the up. Atleast, you're positive in your outlook.
What if your job is basically a silent killer? I have got major heart issues because of my job, and I don't care anymore if the job market sucks right now. I can't work if I'll be dead.
@@abhijeetdey I feel the same way. I feel like I am having heart attack all the time.
See about getting your SSI Disability if you do have a heart condition. This way you will have some income.
When I first read this I thought you were saying you are an assassin.
Doesn't matter. 90% of ALL jobs out there on Indeed and other lists ARE GHOST JOBS. They're not real, just listed to make employees of a company THINK the company is going to hire someone to help them. Also if you are over 50... AGE DISCRIMINATION IS THE NEW NORM. Unless you have the $$ to retire... Don't do it.
You are spot on! I realized that no job can pay me enough to sacrifice my health- physical, mental.
Be aware,,, the older you are (specially 45+) ,,, the longer it will take to find another job… 6 months to a year, and there are a lot of older people who never find employment again. . Don’t risk it.
BS
You’ve got to be strategic. Don’t quit without having something new lined up. Quitting without a plan should be an absolute last resort.
Go to a doctor and get a note for an LOA before you outright quit. That buys you time.
Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith the payoff comes later ....
If you get fired is a black mark on your employment record how will you explain that in your interview
@@frankiecarrrierivg03 are you a muppet ?
@@frankiecarrrierivg03 just lie simple .
He's right. I've been unemployed since February and only NOW ended up landing something. Granted, the first few months I went on a vacation and had to take care of my father, but I dipped into savings and got into a bit of a depression. It took me 8 months to find something comparable and I still took a slight pay cut.
Damn, life is so similar for different people around the globe....
The best time to find a new job is when you have a job.
Also noticing a rise in unions again over the past few years. My grandfather would be proud.
Unions are accelerating the move by manufacturers to Mexico and non-union states. I suspect that Boeing regrets not moving out of the NW area years ago when it had a chance to escape the unions. Union autoworkers will be suffering greatly as auto manufacturers lay off as consumers can no longer afford overpriced, low-quality vehicles and high interest rates.
yeah, all unions are gonna do is make it more and more lucrative to automate, outsource, or downsize.
@@picklerix6162 💯
Nowadays you have to protect yourself from big corporate greed you the little guy can be easily swallowed o
If you don't have sn exit plan!
@@theplaintiff5450 not all union jobs are manufacturing or can be automated, lot of trades are union like electricians or other skilled labor. Lot of quality problems on the 787 mostly came from the non union Charleston plant where management feels more free to push the boundaries of safety.
I’ve been hearing about quitting jobs for very low-bar reasons recently. The reality is no job will be perfect. Figure out what you are willing to put up with in order to live the best life you can, but searching for a holy grail perfect job will just result in disappointment for life.
Facts it's better I you work for a small company
@@Jac735i totally agreed. My hub loves his job so much he work for family owned cabinets business. The owner is 1 in a million you will never find this man again. The perfect boos. Every Christmas he get bounces $ 15000 plus expensive restaurant for the while employee( 8 employee) and present. His boos paid for my hub dental care $4000 no payback. To be honest my hub does a lot for him as well business boom because of my husband. They weren't doing too good before he started, this cane out of his boss mouth ( he told me ) what a hard worker my husband is he never met anybody like him and his knowledge. The boos even begged my husband to take a day off, he called in sick once in 5 years because he was very sick. The boos was so happy when my hub told he need one off because of personal business his boos was so happy lol this was last Thursday. Me I work for corporate SUCK so bad I am away stress mentally i am drained. I want to quit daily but I can't I make decent money and I do not want to go through job hunting too stressful plus my age I'm 47 going 48 in Dec. I'll suck it up build up my 401k first then will see.
I graduated with several years of experience in May and still can’t find a full time job. It’s awful out here.
@@shy_donut8307 go door to door with your resume. Then negotiate with low wages to out compete the other candidates. Slowly work your way up by asking for small pay increases every few months.
I finally just found a job after looking for six months. Well I looked for about 5 months and spent that last month depressed in my room.
class of 2022 here
🙏🏾🙏🏾
Same what did you major in
"Don't stay in one place too long, it looks bad"
"Don't quit your job."
"If you change jobs, you might regret it"
So basically, we are screwed no matter what we do! 🤣
the solution is just never have a job in the first place
😂😂 it seems like
@@eile4219 this is honestly my plan. Moving to another country for a cheap house.
Just be smart about your decisions. That's all.
Let's be honest, 100% honest the REAL solution is two fold. 1. Know someone who can give you that good job and 2. Look good, handsome or beautiful.
Never quit a job until you have a new job. I taught my kids this long ago
@areyoufit This is ideal.
I thank god for my remote job, and I work really really hard. I understand how lucky and blessed I am to have my good job.
I was let go after 4.5 years at my previous company. It took me 8 months of hard looking and interviewing to land my just now job. At the time of writing this the job market is really not good. Over the last 8 months I spoke to people who regularly told me it took them over a year to find a job after they were laid off. If you have a job be grateful, but there’s no harm in interviewing if you can land another position while in your current job.
I feel so much better now. I will suck it up...
I’m quitting on Friday. I was just diagnosed with an illness and the stress is making me sicker. It’s the easiest yet most toxic job I have ever had. Myself and several others have complained about my manager, and nothing has been done in a year. Do I have another job, nope. It will work itself out in the end.
Good luck to you. The stress of not having money and worrying about paying bills including rent is very real for many people so hopefully, things will work out. you have to do what's right for you.
I was under the impression that is generally is not a good idea to quit a job without having something else lined up regardless of the market except in extreme circumstances.
That only works if you have a hybrid or full remote job. Those who are in office 40 hours per week will have to get fired before they can even start looking.
Yes - but the problem is you're applying logic to a situation where people are more likely to be applying emotion.
@@lextacy2008paid time off for interviews is like being paid to increase your salary.
@@lextacy2008not necessarily, if you’re really desperate to leave like i was last year, i was taking recruiter calls during my lunch, and even lied and said i had a family emergency where i did an interview in my car in the parking lot. Got the new job and gtfo
I did leave a bad taste in my last employers mouth tho, i gave my 2 weeks and they fired me the next day, i only worked there for a year
There was a time a couple years back where you would get hired only in the basis of breathing.
This applies to life in general. Dont quit your job unless you either have enough money to hold yourself for a long while or have another job lined up.
For example i once quit my better paying job to go work at a grocery store part time.
Obviously the pay was not good but i had saved enough money and was working only like two days a week to at least have some money coming in. I was able to breathe and live my live my life for a good year
Wow, that sounds kind of radical but I've had similar ideas of that kind of job for a while to focus on other things too. Was your salary from the part time job enough to at least cover your expenses? Or were you using your savings to complement it?
How awesome. Congratulations.
I love that you shared this bc that is ACTUALLY where I am in the journey!
I left full time corporate work in 2022 because I wanted a break from the full time corporate schedule and from what I was doing.
I wanted to work fewer days. I also, after about 8 years in my field, have simply lost interest (probably never really had it in the first place lol)
I deliver part time and it brings me enough money to cover living expenses while also being able to choose if I want to work two days per week or occasionally more than that.
I’m loving the flexibility and I’m the type of person who definitely doesn’t mind reducing lifestyle to simply have more time in my life to live and build things of actual interest
@rml151515 it was not. It was mostly food money. Like I mentioned. I made sure to not have much money going out.
Meaning. I had no loan payments, and my only bills were rent, phone, internet, groceries.
I made sure to save up enough expenses for a year of survivor and my part time job gave me some food income
I am desperate to get out of this position. I just got it and should feel blessed but the environment is toxic and i dont feel fulfilled. I have a lot of anxiety daily about this job and want to change careers entirely.
What stops you, man?
@mdesnica I have been applying like crazy (10-15 applications a day) but nobody is hiring. I don't want to leave before having something else lined up.
Try out some herbal CNS relaxants, such as melissa and passiflora.
Even on a good economy, you shouldn’t just quit your job. Keep it while you look for something else, otherwise you don’t get to pick, you just have to get whatever they offer you first.
Well is every where seem to get toxic you have to do your due diligence before quitting your job and whatever you get pick first somewhere else
The pit fall of continuing too long is your get into a comfort sort of
Just got laid off after a company acquisition. I have no backup plan or social support network, no car, and a lease on my apartment until July. Very scared to be honest.
If you have at least a driver's license go to your nearest car dealership and apply for the sales position they usually will give you a base pay I was terrible at selling cars but I lasted for 6 months before I was able to find a real job I've done that same concept three times in my life
I've been unemployed for the past year (Due to a company merger) and I can tell you from experience that it definitely is difficult to find another job in the current standing of the market. My advise to you is stay in your current position while you can and weather out the storm or until you find a better opportunity to immediately jump ship. Working a deadbeat job right now definitely beats continuously being disappointed by ghosted applications and recruiters putting the expectation margin for employment way too high than what they are willing to pay. Not to mention the thousands of ghost job postings that are plaguing the job boards. I've personally given up on trying to apply for a while and develop skills that will not make me reliant on the job market any further.
Thanks for sharing that. What kind of skills would that be? I've been thinking what my next step will be, whether that's soon or in a few years, and I do wonder about skills like you mentioned, that would not make me reliant on the job market any further.
This story of hopping on the IT trending 2020, going through schooling during the pandemic, then landing a job in 2022, then letting that job go because I “didn’t like the way my boss talked to me” is so true. In my case I know I couldn’t have stayed in my job because I am a person who CANT STAND being abused, disrespected, and manipulated, and thank god I saved a lot of money while I worked in that role. I learned the hard way that jobs are not easy to come by. Hello entrepreneurship! I opened a cleaning business. So much better off now.
Yup its funny how the algorithm is pushing all these 2-3 year old videos to me "why you SHOULD quit tech your job now, with no backup or plan" videos lol and im always like "ehh this did not age well"
SE quits a FANG to take a sabbatical in foreign country to find themselves... oh, jeez...
😳😂😂
If you quit a job you don't qualify for unemployment if you get terminated you will get unemployment the best thing to do is get fired
Also remember being "fired" is only bad if you did something illegal or super unethical. For not being a good fit, toxic boss, etc is just a layoff.
Thats dodgy. You can bet your ass the company will try to document everything they can to ensure they don't have to pay out that higher rate. Even if you are starving under a bridge.
@@CT-yc4gd the employer can delay but not deny your right to unemployment while you figure things out. At the end if you were simply laid off the state will issue your unemployment.
@@CT-yc4gd A sure fire way to get fired and get unemployment benefits is to file a LEGITIMATE complaint with a government agency. It can be for something as simple as slippery floors.
I've never seen ANYONE get unemployment except for layoffs. They will cite poor performane even if you're emp of the month for a year.
John here giving it to us like it is.
I can only add to always be applying.
Never let go of one branch until you have a good grip on the next.
I’m really fighting the urge to do it, but these people are making very difficult. After watching this vid, I’ll stay put (but keep my ear to the ground).
Got fired from my corporate job, didn't give me a role, forced me to quit, and canceled all my stuff.
Don't crack under pressure. - TAG Heuer
@@wingman-1977 Same!
Great decision
Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith the payoff comes later ....
I just did this and it worked out! I decided to transition out of my current role and give my two weeks notice. Less than a week later, I just got an offer! I'm a career changer though and had been doing an intense job hunt in 2 cities for the better part of 2 year's. I almost gave up hope.
And if the payoff doesn’t come later then set up a Gofund me so people can help you pay your past due bills?
@iamme7664 no you just take the hit and keep grinding you clearly have a " safeworld theory " losers mind set buddy ..
@@MattTHX-io4tksorry that is a scary advice. I am not going through Temp agency ever again. Been there done that not a happy place to be in when your fridge is empty tried to sale your games for food just to tell you they don't want even for free. No I am not taking the leap ever again.
I quit a disaster job in April. Got freelance work last month after interviewing 10+ times for multiple months. If something is causing your life to spiral. Quit something else WILL pop up.
what do you mean "disaster job"?
Why is this guy always confirming things I've figured out in my own life? I was thinking just a couple of weeks ago that with everything going on in my industry right now that it is not a good time to try and switch jobs. I'll be in my current job for at least another year because new job prospects are not great at the moment.
What industry are you in?
Watching this after I quit my job..
Stay positive. You can find something!
As long as you active in your job search like daily you'll will find one and get hired. What i did got 3 interviewed in 2 weeks got hired in 3 weeks. But I didn't quit my job the company was sold.
All those job postings and no replies after sending hundreds of applications and cover letters. I even consider getting rejection 3 months later to be very lucky.
I also feel like I won the lottery for getting a job.
I'm holding onto my job for dear life right now. A few short stints in a row and you're an unemployable pariah. Better to just suck it up and deal with it until this situation improves again. This is the exact opposite of 2021.
Today I just got my first job interview sourced through a headhunter, 4 months into my job search. All other headhunter leads prior to this became ghost city. In the old old days, the headhunter leads were actually more likely to turn into real interviews than cold applying. That has actually flipped over time. Things sure have changed, so be careful out there.
I sold my home and quit then moved to the Philippines...very easy to survive off the interest earned from my home sale in SE Asia while still living like a king.
I quit my job with nothing lined up because I was going in circles. How are you supposed to have time to find a new job when youre constantly being overworked?
lunch breaks, evenings, weekends, annual leave.
Believe it or not having a job while applying for another one looks better to employers than being unemployed for a while and looking for a job 😂 Good luck..
If you're determine you will find time.
I did, in fact, find a better job in less than 2 weeks :p
Yea right now if you have a stable job that pays well hold on to it for the moment, especially if it's a job that rarely if ever lays off.
This is coming from the same guy telling you to leave your job for a better pay and to avoid career stagnation 😂
Please use critical thinking skills
Hello. You are right. Finding a job these days is very difficult. Even if you speak/read/write Spanish/English fluently, there is still no job. The only jobs available are service jobs where people are required to lift 5,000 pounds, work overtime, drive many miles, never sleep, & work every holiday. Nobody wants to live like that. If you have a job you hate, keep it. As long as your health/life are not in danger, at least you can still pay bills. Quietly look for a better job & make sure you're really hired before you quit your nightmare job.
Yes it’s harder but I saved enough to last me over 2 years in worst case scenario (moved back with parents) took me 7 months for a new one and god that last job was so toxic I don’t know what psychological effects it could have had on my confidence.. long story short quit if you can afford it.. and only if you can afford it.. but don’t expect a job in less than 5/6 months keep expectations cooled
Totally agree. Not quitting my job. Staying put. I harbor no illusions of finding something better.
I think the "toxic" job definition isn't about just unethical or illegal behavior of colleagues or workplace, but what it's doing to the worker physically. Night sweats, panic attacks, passive suicide ideation, etc. are all signs that it's time to move to a different part of the company or find a new job. Also, I agree that now's not the time to quit. Just wait 'til you're laid off. My company right now is going through its 3rd RIF in 10 months and the company's stocks are up on the heels of layoffs! This is the new lever companies use every quarter now to artificially inflate their stocks. Goodbye to staying in a company 3+ years. In Sept alone, I saw 20-40% cuts across customer-facing, engineering, and product teams.
Obviously, financial security for at least 4-6 months is a minimum when thinking of quitting, money that you expect as final payment which can be payment in lieu, redundancy etc( thats what i had). I got to keep most of the money and landed a new job within 2 months. BUT! Its a risk and if you are not used to being out of work, I advise people not to do it as its emotionally draining, believe me! Yes, you have money for the foreseeable future but you have no long term job security yet in place! Very weird situation mentally. This plus the job search aspect which we all know is a huge luck game, being in the right place at the right time etc. You can be the best candidate but you are not getting the job if they don't like you! That's reality. So people should really think hard before quitting and without a job to go to!
I need one of those work from home government jobs that doesn't notice I exist for five years.
I will say if you have an engineering degree, we are seeing a shortage in the Midwest. ESPECIALLY for civil and structural engineers. My company has been growing and have been hiring like crazy. We have tons of work with not enough people to handle it.
That’s solid advice! Quitting a job can be a big risk, especially in a tough market. It’s definitely wise to have a good reason and another offer lined up before making a leap. Sometimes, sticking it out can lead to better opportunities down the line, and being strategic about your career moves is always a smart approach.
Great advice
I'm 54 and going to HVAC school at night at the local community college. My plan is to finish the 2-year practical experience portion of the licensing process and then farm a few nearby neighborhoods. My niche is offering discount services tailored to people needing to keep their systems hanging on for another year or two. It isn't glamorous, but I know a few guys making a killing at it. Being a retired military officer with a pension helps in getting my plan off the ground. I'll never work for somebody else again if I can help it.
We all work for somebody else…
If you’re a tech worker, pay attention to what happens in the stock market and job market after the fed rate cuts.
IT will crash. Look at the Covid Crash, 2008, and DotCom Crash.
Something like 11 of the last 14 rate cuts have been followed by a recession. Buckle up!
Your Advice is Spot On! I realized a long time ago that finding a job, while you have one, is easier than when you don't. In today's Job Market, this is even more applicable!
I'm glad i live in the UK, with strong employment laws. I went through huge syress at work - was able to get medically signed off for stress, on full pay, some support, eventually leave and move on. Where my skills were valued.
I am a hair away from quitting my job. I’m a registered dietitian working in acute care/inpatient setting and I am paid 10% less an hour than my predecessor and was denied some fringe benefits he had. We graduated from the same undergrad program a year apart, and I have a MS! (He does not). I tried approaching HR about it and got shut down, tried again, shit down again. Tried to continue the conversation and didn’t even get a response to my email. So frustrating! I feel so undervalued here :(
Have a job lined up first.
start looking for another job, first! And ask y our friends who are also registered dietitians how they like their jobs and work environment. that will help you decide where to apply, and it might get you an internal jobs referral especially if the pay for employee referrals. That is what convinced me to leave the industry I was in and wind up in tech. Low pay and loads of grief, is awful. At least you can pay one decently.
HR are there to protect the company only.
Put your mental health first.
Yup
I graduated in Spring 2023 with a degree in electrical engineering and a computer engineering minor. It took me over 6 months to land what's turned out to be a bait-and-switch dead-end nightmare technician role out of desperation, and now I'm trapped because because I can't even get phone screenings. I'm getting maybe one or two recruiters reaching out per month at best, and they normally schedule the phone screening but ghost me before even doing it. I've even had recruiters ghost me instead of calling me for screenings they scheduled literally the day before.
Then there's all the recruiters that I ignore, because they're looking for even lower-paying jobs at the company I'm already working for, which is apparently the only place actually hiring in my city.
Engineering is something you do in your 20's while you figure out what you're actually going to do with your life.
Look for your exit now instead of when it's too late.
Something you do in your 20’s??? What? I’m in my 30’s, have my BSEE, and am making solid six figures with great benefits as a mid-level embedded software engineer with ~8 years experience. An EE degree alone is no sure fire way to land a great job making great money. What OP probably failed to do before graduating was to secure good internships that would lead to job offers before graduation. Because of internships and networking, I received two job offers several months before I graduated. Get the degree, network well, and land those internships! It’s essential to do that PRIOR to graduation, or else it’s like applying for jobs while unemployed.
@@billybobthornton8122 Ignorance is bliss! Enjoy!
If you want to be miserable, I suggest asking other people what they make and what they're doing to make it.
Big companies are treating people worse than ever and getting away with it bc nobody can quit bc everything is expensive and the job market sucks. And the cycle continues.
I did. Found one within a Day paying more than I was making at the old one. I’m 39 and was making 120k. I’ll be at 135k now. Just walk into the interview like you’re ready to slang some wood. You’ll be ok.
I didn't want to leave but my entire product team decided to quit without a plan after complaining about low salaries and the boss refusing to let employees work 2 days from home and 3 days in the office. And because my last product manager decided to leave, my boss decided to make the decision to make all of us redundant. And now I can't find a job.
I've spent seven years working in a sh*t shop that I hate, all the while watching the job market bob along without a care, even despite Covid. The second I decide to try and move on, the market has a meltdown and tells me to f*ck myself. 146 rejections later, I'm clinically depressed, doped to the gills on antidepressants (that don't work) and trapped in a life that looks a lot like 2019's Joker. A piece of my self-respect is shredded every day and along comes this video, telling me it's probably my best option.
Thanks, Brian. I really needed this (That was sarcasm)!
Am I cursed, am I the butt of some sick cosmic joke or am I caught in some global capitalist scheme to kill the working class?!
Bad choices
I quit mine almost a month ago everyone knows this saying but it’s easier said than done. Life is too stressful and I’ll always say you hold on as much as possible until you can’t anymore at that point is not worth the stress.
Stress is everywhere. There’s also stress in applying for jobs and getting rejection letter after rejection letter. There’s stress in watching your savings dwindle month after month until there’s nothing left. There’s stress wondering if you’ll need to borrow money from family OR keep accruing debt on your credit cards because you can’t afford to eat. There’s stress paying out of pocket for doctor’s visits because you no longer have health insurance through your employer. Choose your stress.
I was raised that you dont quit your job unless you have another job. It doesn’t make sense to me when people quit with no backup. Your bills dont go on pause when you quit.
If you have saved for a rainy day and am not in debt it can be done. Obviously is you canbarely pay your bills, it's not a good idea.
If you want to quit just do it just make sure you have at least 6 months of savings. If you dont find a job after 3 months settle for something until you can get the job you want
You should do a compilation of all the people that go viral for quitting their jobs without a job lined up. I’m sure it would be quite entertaining to watch.
Exactly why in the hell would anybody quit a job before having a new one already lined up? (Unless maybe they had a huge amount of money saved and their current job became extremely toxic.) That would not be wise.
Many reasons.....
I didn't quit my job but I was let go unfortunately last April. While I'm still getting interviews I just couldn't secure the job offer.
😫😫😫 I just told myself I’d quit in oct 31 whether have something line up or not. I’ve been starting to do the bare minimum today on top of my manager having a talk with a toxic coworker and my day is SO much better. Adulting is wild!
Well I quit, but it’s because I’m never working a “job” again unless it’s purely a fun job or something I want to do
I worked at a corporate job, for a company that everyone in the U. S. has heard of. In my department, we averaged about 80 people at any given time. The last year I was there, we had an absolute meltdown by one employee to her boss (he IS a jerk) and about 5 people took LOAs due to burnout (those are the people that told me themselves it was due to burnout, we had 2-3 others with 2 month LOAs where I did not know the reason. I looked for jobs, but did not get them. My friend on another team was 25 and he started having heart problems. A cardiologist told him he needed to reduce his stress and consider quitting his job. He quit. His health is back to normal.
I know this is easier said than done but if you are prepared to walk away from a job out of frustration, to save yourself from stress or frustration, think about this. What if you were to push back and not take the abuse from your boss? What if you were to say that you cannot handle the workload if they have burdened you with unreasonable demands?
You might be better to stand your ground and fight and make them fire you before you quit at will. In either case, you will have stress but maybe you just might win if you fight back.
This is a great point. Might also get a severance or unemployment if they fire you.
Working with toxic co-workers make you want to quit,especially all the kiss assess!Sometimes it can be a challenge though.
Took me 7 months between Dec 2023 and July 2024 to get a job. Had all of 3 interviews during that time. Things are tough out there
I recently quit because work was citing me for attendance issues when I was on military leave. Thankfully, I was on military leave because well…that comes with it’s own job.
I regularly visit these content creators to get a feel of our economy and prospective moves. You and others have relayed real time information that drew me to the conclusion that making jumps to what would seem to be greener pastures. Would be a horrible idea based on our economic situation. So thank you keep up the great content.
Same here. I'm not quiting my job
I dont regret leaving my toxic job.
If you are working for a terrible corporation like I was, start getting those applications sent out, there’s good companies out there and be patient
Yep. The job market totally stinks right now. 100% !!!! I have a degree and even I'm struggling to find a job right now. If you're absolutely determined to quit your job without having one already lined up... Be prepared, it's going to awhile.
I have plenty of retail experience. I was even a manager at one point. Now, I can't even get a seasonal job at Nike. This is the worst job market I've seen since 2012. Not my fault I was laid off from Corporate America!
This week we had a big meeting and the higher ups reported that they are letting go 1% of employees across the company. They also said they wouldn’t be backfilling the open positions. We have about 3 on our team. I’ve been with this company for 18 years. I’ve survived 2 mergers and 3 rounds of layoffs. I’m staying put
If you've got a job, it is an AWFUL time to quit and companies know it. On the job seekers end, most people don't even hear back from companies, those that do are subjected to weeks to possibly months of interviews, inflated job and experience requirements, ATS working against you... I had to move back with family and I'm fortunate that I had that option. I don't recommend looking for jobs in the current market. It is an utter shit show.
I got laid off in April of this year. I was managing a project that the company dubbed, "the backbone of the studio", but the client ended up wanting to wrap, so I got laid off. During my 2 years there, there were 3 separate times myself and other staff were only given 70% of our paid salary, then 40%. It made me start to think should I quit? But we were finally told within a month and a half before the project closed that we would be laid off. I held on so I could get Employment insurance (I live in Canada) and I am glad I held out but for sure this job market is crap.
And yet all the people who don't have to worry about their jobs keep gaslighting us about "strong and resilient" nonsense about the economy. It's only "strong and resilient" if you own a house mortgage free and don't need a job. For everyone else, it sucks!
The solution is we need to show the career politicians and corporate elites what it is like to be laid off or get a pay cut.
Too late. I already did it.
I did it too I didn't wait
Same here, and I don’t regret it, the place was terrible, boss was toxic,mental health is a lot better after a couple of weeks.
Me too.
No regrets
Same no regrets, taking the time to get closer to God, he can and will keep you sane if you believe, especially in bs like this.
I'm greatly tempted to take social security and just forget about working.
I was forced out with severance. It was toxic af anyway. Wife is 8 months pregnant.
I quit my job because my whole team quit and I was left to do their jobs. I left because I was overworked and felt disrespected. I don’t know what to do now 😢
I think you should quit if you have another role lined up! It doesn’t make sense to stay in a role with limited growth opportunities either just for the sake of being employed. It’s easier to find a job when you are employed.
Agreed.
No, it's not.
took me nearly 8-9 months, I got laid off in jan/feb... phone did not ring, prior to Christmas my phone rang of the hook, I was lucky to get my current role, with a decent wage and benefits, I ONLY got it due to making a targetted resume , with good skills and great interview techneque and ACTUALLY I was REALLY LUCKY, they where looking for a skill I had which no-one else had, but only realised I had it when I interviewed. NEVER quit your job
Ty Brian, for giving more clarity on a "toxic" job. If EVERY job you go to is toxic, the job is not the problem. Another bit of excellent advice, is to live far below your means.
Well said!
Agreed. The job is never the problem. It's the leadership or the employee themselves. I've in a workforce since 16 now 47 still working. Excalty what I noticed.
Here’s the thing most people should’ve reasoned about the “great resignation” . For a society to work you need a core amount of taxpayers and, no, companies are not gonna pick up all the slack. In fact, they are effective at not paying taxes legally.
So after enough people quit, the government cannot keep the party going sending everyone COVID checks, and the nation goes into heavy debt and GDP drops and the economy tanks.
And as an individual, at some point you run out of money but now you have a bunch other people realizing the same thing coming back to find jobs and now their skills have stagnated, some of their best years for earning income and for getting compound interest gone, heavier in debt cause they never learned to live below their means, and competing for the same McJobs they left but now with a bunch of other people and, maybe, even against cheaper foreign labour applicants (Canada).
The great resignation had a short expiration date if you really thought about it even for 5 minutes.
Even at the time I was thinking they’re just playing musical chairs. At least they got a pay bump.
@@JakoWako the people who left for another job are fine assuming they landed a better job. It’s the people who quit to do nothing, especially if they burnt bridges who are on the losing end. I met a few of these people.
They thought at worst they were getting a paid vacation courtesy of the Canadian government. They made bogus claims for COVID checks and then eventually they spent the money, the government caught on and sent them letters to repay the money, and then they had no jobs on top of it all and fell way behind on the job market.