Ten Christmas Traditions That Are NOT Pagan!
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IDK why people assume that Christianity doesn't have deep tree symbolism of its own. The Tree of Life and the Cross itself are heavily linked symbolically. If the biggest symbol in Christianity is the Cross, which signifies the crucifixion, it makes perfect sense that Jesus's birth would be signified by the Tree of Life.
And using an evergreen tree to represent the Tree of Life is just a no-brainer.
The Christmas tree represents the yew tree. It can live forever and has male and female trees. It's the symbol of reincarnation, it's Pagan. There yew trees in every ancient site all over euro'
Hmm. The cross is not commanded to us as a symbol by Christ or the Apostles. It is a religious tradition of man that has become an icon and an idol. Paul says to avoid idols. Many genuine believers were burnt because they refused to kiss the crucifix of the Catholics. The only observance we are commanded to do is the Lord's Table. Anything else is adding to the Word of God.
@@chrisponsano4378 Seek help, please.
@@chrisponsano4378 just because its not commanded doesnt mean its wrong. The cross nor crucifix is an idol. No Christian believes that God is in their cross or in any object. Yes avoid idols, not avoid all images. Images are ok as long as they are not worshipped. Now idk about catholic history too much. Its very possible what you said is true but that doesnt mean its because those catholics believed that God was in the crucifix. Its against catholic teaching to believe that God is in an image such as a crucifix.
@@beansenpai18 It would sound as if you are looking for acceptable loopholes. Paul says to bring every thought to subjection to Christ. If we are betrothed to Christ, would we not be absolutely true to Him as a faithful bride instead of looking for ways to hang out with our old boyfriends? Satan always seeks ways to distract us from our one true love.
In the Kingdom Age, there will be only one thing to eat, one thing to drink, one thing to breathe, one thing to do, and one thing to enjoy -- that is Christ who in all in all.
“It’s not even December and you people are already trying me”
Saying that with that look of disgust/irritation is just a mood all on its own.
So 30 years later and we’re still deal with bad arguments from the Zeitgeist movie 😂
Repeat after me, children: "Correlation is not causation."
Perhaps not. However, The celebration of Christmas has enough pagan and worldly elements to warrent avoiding it. Paul says, "Avoid all appearances of evil." As a believer, we don't need Christmas. The only observance we are commanded to do is the Lord's Table. All else is the traditions of man.
@@chrisponsano4378 will that also include independence day? 😂
@@chrisponsano4378Same energy as "the thing I like became too mainstream and now I don't like it"
Complete bullshit
Yeah but atheists always use this phrase. The phrase should be "correlation is not NECESSARILY related to causation."
@@rs72098I’m a Christian and I believe that phrase to be true. Christmas isn’t pagan, and there are only rumors and made up stories as “evidence”, no sources, no facts.
It seems to me that Christians who are so busy looking to tell the rest of us how pagan their brothers and sisters in Christ are, need to take care of their own logs in their eye. They are more obsessed with the paganism than on the birth of Christ, which IS what Christmas is all about.
Your humor is golden and your research is impeccable. Keep up the amazing work, IP
Christmas has nothing to do with Christ. Defending Christmas is not Christain apologetics. It is hypocrisy.
@@chrisponsano4378 Bro, you're called "Chris"
my irl name is also chris x3@@jorgitoislamico4224
@@chrisponsano4378Christ-mas has everything to do with Christ.
The demons are molesting you whenever Christmas is mentioned, in order use you for their agenda. Since they hate Christmas.
Eggnog is Pagan? Darn, I can’t have one of my favorite drinks anymore, I guess I’ll have to throw out my entire stockpile.
Pepsi and Coke are pagan, and so is water, and MC Hammer. Pagan pagan pagan 😂 These atheists are getting wild....
@@rs72098very soon praying and fasting will become a pagan practice becuz as far as I know most pagans pray and fast... These atheists r just a few moments to realizing this and I won't be surprised if they start calling prayer and fasting a pagan practice
Atheists: *"The 4th of July celebrations are 100% pagan because red, white, and blue colors also existed when pagans were around in ancient Norway."* 🤔🙄 this is seriously how they think.
Since my family came to Christ, they joined a group of house churches that outlawed Christmas, new year, Birthdays, and so on. You can barely celebrate anything without it being called paganism or considered idolatry because apparently, you shouldn't do things in honor of people, only God.
It's sad to realize that their conversion created more distance than unity between us. 😖
But on the upside, it's wonderful for them that now they're better than you.
@@Giant_Meteor with that tongue you pray to jesus?
@@Giant_Meteor It all depends on the metric we consider. Satan is better than me at lying and I am fine with that, I can't be the best at everything. 😂
@@PostalDude2017 Sometimes I do pray, for whatever the prayers of a rotten sinner might be worth.
@@Giant_Meteor as if christias just by having faith in christ are superior to the non-believers, when actually we are all sinner, no matter how hard you follow jesus, you'll sin one way or another. That's you put your faith in him, so he and god may forgive you.
It's wild how people will just watch a TikTok video like the one being responded to here and instantly believe everything in it. It's like nobody ever taught them not believe everything they see on the internet lol
As we go into the holiday season, a lot of people are whining about the holidays' "pagan origins." I say, if they are pagan, let's take the pagans' holidays!
Those profaned days will now be sacred to God. We should burn their altars and build churches over them; melt their idols and make crosses of them; and take their celebrations and dedicate them to YAWEH.
Christ is King. Let the demons weep: their glory is now God's.
You do know that God tells you not to worship him in the ways the heathens worship their gods, right?
He also told you not to participate in the traditions of man.
Christmas is not a holiday any proclaimed child of God should celebrate.
We are to be separated from the world, not celebrate in its traditions.
@@1sanitat1 you are free to celebrate Christs birth. Nothing I stated says you can't.
However, God specifically says not to worship him the way the heathens worship their God.
He also says not to follow man made traditions.
When you celebrate Christmas, you are using man made traditions, many that were used to worship other gods.
If you wanna celebrate Jesus birth, do it at least near the time he was born and that's more like Sept or Oct.
Here's a good watch if you're still confused.
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@@1sanitat1 I don't even know what that is 🤣🤣
I go by what God himself says.
He says to follow his words and his words are living.
He is the same yesterday, today and always.
That's Gods doctrine, not mans.
@@1sanitat1 and if you would use discernment, as we are instructed, you would know anything that comes from the Catholic church is of the antichrist spirit and you should not listen.
@@1sanitat1 and just so I clarify for you, before you add more nonsense.
I follow God.
I do not follow any denomination because the churches, with their religion, are tools of evil.
They were meant to divide Gods people and keep them from understanding him completely.
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I loved that face, HAHAHA.
God bless you man.
0:18 as someone who studies different mythologies. He does indeed have an 8 legged horse named sleipnir (who is a son of loki) he does not, however, deliver presents. Also, sleipnir is never said to be able to fly in the myths he is, however, able to run extremely fast.
Sleipnir*
@@wulfheort8021 thanks
Now I want a crossover between Odin and Santa/St. Nicholas where they race around the world and talk about their respective theologies.
@gabrielbrennan4149 if you think about it, Odin and Santa (the character not the real historical figure) are polar opposites in terms of personality. Santa uses his presents to reward children who have been nice, and he is against bad behavior and inspires cooperation and friendliness. Odin, however, is more of a might makes right kind of guy. He only acknowledges the strong and actively encourages war and conflict.
@@maluslikescoffee3690 That’s a good point!
Misinformation, who doesn't love to spread them around with unassailable confidence like this young lady? Shows time after time again, that the bullshit asymmetry principle really is valid.
At the end of the day, God and the truth of who He is is honored through sacred traditions. He always will be and always was. That to me is enough reason for us to enjoy the season and to use it as an opportunity to tell people of the One who can bring them everlasting joy and only can.
Absolutely not. YaHU’aH hates your wicked festivals and will not smell in your assemblies. The only festivals and feasts you should be keeping are the appointed times (Moadim) literally means appointments. Don’t miss the appointments.
Okay. Do you do all the requirements for what the Sabbath required? Not kindling fire was one of them. What about the Feast for Unleavened Bread? Purim? Feast of Trumpets? My point was about giving Him glory in all we do. Why waste time with names of God when His name was meant to be unpronouncable? There are many languages and none are without meaning.
I really don't like engaging threads either. Just a way to cause stress.
wait ... Drinking water is pagan??? guess ill die ...
Can you believe it guys? Christmas, just a week away! Christmas is in a week! It got here so fast.
By signing up to YT, IG and Tik Tok, she became historian and teach nonsense 🤣🤣🤣
Hey IP can you make a video on a TH-camr named biblical binitarian
Borrowed and stole are synonymous? IP, I am shocked you did not correct her on that 😓😂
What is "the reason for the season" for Christians to celebrate Christmas anyway?
In the first or second century some bishops wanted to celebrate Christ's birth, but it wasn't recorded. There was some sort of logic going around that you could calculate a prophet's date of birth with their death date, so they got a handful of possible dates that way, spanning from the 25th to January.
It's why some countries celebrate Christmas at separate times, as well.
Your face through this entire video!
The advent didn't start yet, and they are already daring to do this 😢😢😢
Is it really impossible to assume that two Holidays celebrated by two cultures might possibly happen around the same day every once in a while or is the possibility of a coincidence just completely non-existent in the minds of the "X is pagan" crowd?
Why come from lights and tree from Judiasm and the Manorah and festival of lights?
Santa is based on Saint Nicholas, so he can't be based on Odin because Odin pre-dates Saint Nicholas by God knows how long & so it's physically impossible for Santa come before Saint Nicholas.
the christmas hat caught me off guard 😂
just added to my Christmas is not pagen playlist
At least she could hold a concealable microphone up to her face. She got that right.
Life Quote: don't even think to mess up with an Intellectual machines
St. Nick is based on a real catholic saint from the country we now call Turkey. Instead of presents to children he gave dowery gifts to a family with that daughters that were too poor to marry which in that time was a very bad thing financially for both the daughter’s and the parents. Later European celebrations come from venerations of him as a saint mixed with legends rumours and myth turning the Saint Nicholas into Santa ‘klaus. Not pagan. Removed from the original story and not oozing Christ sure but that doesn’t make it pagan, especially not in the sense that neo pagans have reclaimed the term today.
Odin was an Uber driver
Dutch kids getting double the gifts over here because of American influences.😂
2:23🤣
Odin does ride an eight legged horse in the final fantasy summons. Where did they get that idea from? I’m not trying to be edgy I’m just saying it probably does come from somewhere.
The eight legged horse is Sleipnir, who was supposedly born when Loki, to win a wager or some such, turned into a mare to entice a really big horse away from his owner, and got more than he bargained for.
Man, let me ask a question. Do you thinck that is the BETTER defensor of the Christimas? Because i was a Jehova's witnesses and i consider my self, the best Defensor of the Birthdays.
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I am search for so long for a Christimas defense specialist, and i never found one. In my language this sadly doesn't exist. So i want to know if you can get me some answer about some questions.
1) How i dealing with the fact that Jesus doesnt born in this date? I am question before i saw you videos so maybe you answer this a lot of time.
2) How i dealing with the "gold goat" argument, that is about use the pagans things to worship a god?
This 2 question for me, is hard to dealing, because these both question "acusse" of false worship, even if this worship is about the true God. To you know how hard i find this, i sometimes thinck that defende the HALLOWENN, is easier than defend the christimas. Because the christimas KEEP being a religious celebrate.
Is there anything that hasn't been called pagan at this point?
The bible itself Pagan?
I like how Inspiring Philosophy is wearing santa claus hat.
I heard this one youtube channel truthunedited say the christmas 🎄 was a tammuz tree or nimrod tree? Cant remember, one of those? Amd he said people are secretly worshipping the 👹 on that day...
Not pagan or pagan, I observe that the world has changed the church more than the church has changed the world (not that, that is our job necessarily).
“Keep complaining & we’ll take Toyotathon”
Dear heavens! First it was the stores, and now even our favorite apologist is skipping Thanksgiving and moving straight to Christmas! When will this madness end!?
Even if they had pagan origins, what some intended for evil, God will turn to good.
Perfect
Such as a table that had no symbolism but made by pagans
Exactly 100%.
, not how that works , try reading your Bible and see what is says about practicing pagan traditions or following the traditions of man, rather than the traditions laid down by Yahwee.
@@Randy-1967 There is not a single action or practice on Earth that isn’t pagan. Prayer is pagan, eating is pagan, sleeping is pagan. If pagans doing something meant it is forever sinful then there is nothing you can do in the Bible that God commands that isn’t sinful. So either you are claiming God is a liar and commanding you to sin… or you acknowledge the intent behind the action is what makes something ‘pagan’ or sinful. Decorating a tree as a way to honor the birth of Christ isn’t me worshipping some pagan gods I don’t even know the names of or know exist. You can’t accidentally worship something.
The only thing wrong about modern day christmas, it is a badtardized parody of the Saint Nicholas journey of providing the poor so they won't sell their children
Yes, especially when Dutch people celebrate Sinterklaas (Sint Nicolaas) on December 5th and don’t associate it with Christmas whatsoever.
People who are challenging Christmas are worse than murderers because they're PROUD
I can't take anyone who holds a lapel mic seriously.
For some reason the thing that bothers me most here is that she's HOLDING a LAV mic... that just bothers me.
Her: 7: Caroling
Me: *snicker*
Her: 8: Eggnog
Me: Bahahaha!
Christians stole **shuffles cards** using bookmarks from pagans
The pagans clearly stole the yule log from Ren and Stimpy...
What rolls down stairs,
Alone or in pairs,
And over your neighbors dog?
LOL
Do you think Christmas elves are pagan?
By Jove, I think you got it!
I want to guess everyone here doesn't believe dinosaurs were a thing either this is the hardest Christian talk I could imagine with someone who has philosophy in their channel name its more like idealism that I'm seeing
Not really, I think most people probably believe in dinosaurs who follow IP. he also argues for evolution, its just his most popular videos are him debunking misinformation videos from TicTok
@@josephfox9221 I respect your calmness and honesty and not being rude
@@camronjensen5592 thank you. Rudeness is only acceptable during online game matches
Eleven: Making up crap for Christmas.
Okay, we’ll hand that to the pagans.
(Actually, most of the “Christmas is pagan” tripe sources to religious fundamentalist cult leaders. The irony is not lost on me when an atheist or “pagan” cites them.)
Woah , don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative ;) wE sToLe It FrOm PaGaNs
I love how she just says "pagans", as if all pagans had the same customs, beliefs, traditions, and practices. "Pagan" is literally just an umbrella term for any non-Abrahamic religion. She claims we stole things from pagans, and I'm like: "Which ones"?
Modern pagans lump themselves this way they are all very unsmart 😅
You can tell she meant more then one group, by the way she attached the letter S at the end of the word Pagan, to make it read: Pagans.
Meaning: more than one group.
@@AD-en5dqIt doesn't matter which day was chosen, atheists will always claim there was a pagan history behind it. They will stretch out any connections no matter how vague they are.
Can you show me one Bible verse where we are commanded to celebrate Christmas?
Can you show me one Bible verse where we are commanded not to?
It's truly mindboggling how almost every single educational TikTok is not only wrong, but so incredibly wrong, that's it's actually amazing how they got their "facts" and are being completely serious.
It is on purpose. Tiktok is owned by China and is intentionally curated it to spread as much disinfo and turmoil in the english world as possible.
Did you really expect tiktok users to be smart.
"Educational tiktok" is now my replacement for "jumbo shrimp" as an example of oxymoron.
Tbh this take about how Christians stole Christmas and so on is quite popular outside TikTok as well.
@@dams6829 Yeah, but way too many people get their "facts" from social media and believe whatever they read, so I wouldn't be surprised to see this TikTok pop up on r/damnthatsinteresting and be quoted as fact all over the internet now.
Beldam needs to get off of tiktok and go read some history books
It's not that complicated....Christmas can be rooted in the nicest people of church history, still isn't supposed to be kept to worship Yahweh. Deut 12.
Christmas and Sol Invictus are around the same time (Not necessary dec 25. The Winter solstice is around dec 21) and the Theme of Celebration is similar aswell. To call it theft is a Bit far fetched, but surely no coincidence. +Many cultures come up with similar ways of celebrating, but it is logical that at least some old traditions are kept from pegan times
Its more likely that the holidays aren't synchronous but rather seasonality driving it, multiple cultures have harvest festivals and yet they were seperated with no cultural contact; does this mean aliens came in and revealed the holidays to all of them and they evolved from there? No. It just means they all came up with similar ideas because of the natural seasons.
What evidence are you basing this on though?
@@idongesitx1873 I don't have the time to do much research, but i base it on what i see in modern times and come to logic conclusions.
Haitians are Christian, but still have a lot of pegan traditions (voodoo), which are an element in their christian faith. It's not a strong example, because they probably weren't fully converted at the time of their independence.
A better example is soviet russia, were christmas was banned, bacause of state atheism and christmas traditions went over to new years eve
@@idongesitx1873 Me?
Grrrk mythology is bastardized egyptian mythology and the name Zeus means Ethios and Ethios means black
Omg if we go by everything pagans started we might as well live in the middle of no where with no running water, electricity, internet and ect, chances are someone somewhere is worshipping these things.
Santa Claus=
Satan Lucas=
Lucifer!
Wow you really did your homework again for another great video
As a current Seminarian, your content is definitely gonna be of help!
Keep up the good work!
0:40 she's not exactly wrong.... the justification is that it's the shortest day of light of the year, that's winter solstice, and the next day is when the days get longer and filled with more light. This was the Roman Church justification for using the Pagan winter solstice holiday for Jesus's birth. Basically Justin Martyr generic comparisons and the Roman Church kind of went over the top with finding as many connections as they can and they continue to do so justifying all sorts of nonsense like worshiping mary.
His birth is actually a Jewish tradition. A person is remembered usually as having been born 9 months before their death. There is a 9 month period between Good Friday and Christmas.
Wait, hold? Since when did Odin ride around giving presents to people???? No joke, that actually sounds kinda dope if it weren't made up by her. Santa Odin could be a cool movie and concept. Like dead Odin, what I want for Christmas is RAGNAROK!!!!
This lady thought herself so smug for being "right" when she is so wrong its pathetic.
Those diabolical Christians even stole the very period at the end of this sentence from pagans!
But what's this then that sits at the bottom of the exclamation point and this question mark?
Did you not see the whole video? This guy debunks everything that you say.
@@ConquerorofJerusalem I’m pretty sure they’re joking
The girls origins of Christmas are somehow more exciting than the actual origins.
😅
She should’ve gone after Mariah Carey’s All I Want For Christmas Is You.. Most pagan thing I’ve ever heard of
*"Ten Christmas Traditions that are NOT Pagan."*
- Christmas itself is pagan, mate.
It's the reverse though, pagans intentionally or unintentionally co-opted Christmas in most cases.
@@Fordo007 Whether it's intentional or unintentional, it doesn't change the fact that it's pagan, brother.
@@rafayshakeel4812, we should believe you because? We don't take instructions on this channel. We read and think and debate and learn. Christmas is not pagan. How is remembering someone's birth pagan?
@@feliciadogbe1313 Because it's been established that Christmas is a pagan holiday. Check out a book called: _An Uncommon History of Common Things._
Btw, Jesus (عليه السلام) was *NOT* born in December, so you're not actually remembering his birth. Jesus (عليه السلام) was a noble Prophet of Allah ﷻ.
May Allah ﷻ guide you to Islam, sr Felicia. Ameen!
@@rafayshakeel4812 But it's not. December 25th was the date calculated for the birth of Christ, then pagans associated it with Sol Invictus after the fact. Christians doing stuff Pagans then copied doesn't really matter. Nor does Christians making use of ideas or practices pagans had. The intent behind it is what matters. Decorating a tree isn't wrong or bad unless you are doing it to honor a pagan deity. If doing something pagans did is wrong because a pagan did it... eating and breathing would be wrong. Christians taking pagan traditions and making them Christian is even in keeping with scripture. Like the Bible said, what some intended for evil God will make it become intended for good. Something someone did to worship a false god is now something done to honor the one true God.
The funny is mostly roman which is pagan the one adapting everything!
Thank you for the video! I'm so tired of seeing the same nonsense repeated every year.
Bro where do they come up with these things?
Atheist University online
This is obscene IP. You support traditions of man but say the Torah is done away with? You’re the type of religious person Yahusha the Messiah and the prophets warned us about.
“He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of Aluahiym for the sake of your tradition?”
Matthew 15:3
Oh my gosh the very first thing immediately face palmed so hard i cant believe people dont even know saint nick and how much of a man of god he was
This is the same girl who spouted a bunch of random “facts” about food that were so wrong, an actual expert named FoodScienceBabe made a response to her video lol.
0:04 Angry Santa looks like he's about to punch a heretic. 😁
Nice Santa hat
Santa Claus is St. Nicholas and the version I was familiar with was an Italian clergyman. How can people not know this?
Uhhh St. Nicholas was a bishop, born of Greek descent in Asia Minor...not quite Italian. 😉
"santa" is an anagram for "satan" but it's just
funny to watch you defend your man made
holidays, tradition, and religion.
Your hilarious dude😅
Celebrating Jesus birth is NOT pagan.
Celebrating it in Dezember, with a Christmas tree and with santa Clause, who is a mixture of saint Nicholas (who is NOT in the bible) and the Coca- Cola's Company colors to bring more revenue to Atlanta.
Is 100% pure paganism.
Santa Clause even if he supposed to represent Saint Nicholas ist still 100% pagan.
*You shall NOT worship others gods besides me.*
God even got angry when the people of moses created the golden calf to worship *HIM* .
So giving children the impression Santa Clause is someone you should like, because he gives you presents, by pretenting you do that because of Jesus is definitely breaking that commandment again.
Memorizing Jesus crucifixion and his resurrection is NOT pagan.
Celebrating it with a egg laying easter bunny at the wrong date for the wrong amount of time
Is 100% pure paganism again.
Jesus was born during Sukkot also called Booths --> סוכות
and he was crucified during passover/pessach --> חַג הַפֶּסַח
That are the correct dates where it happened.
And those are the correct names for those celebrations.
And god let that happen during his feasts for a reason.
The god of the Israelites and the jews is also our god.
God doesn't change.
The holy day for the lord is Sabbath NOT sunday.
Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. NOT the day of the romans where they worshiped sol invictus (their god of the sun)
It Doesn't matter if they changed the day to worshipping god. God said when the 7th day is:
And that day is Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. That is sabbath the 7th day.
It doesn't matter the the UN wated to change sunday into the 7th day of the week and transform monday into the first day of the week.
Sabbath will remain the correct 7th day of the week as it is written in the bible.
God's word doesn't change.
God doesn't change.
Humans changed the dates and names of those important celebrations because they will always try to build themselves their golden calf again.
So we are once again valuing humans laws higher than gods laws. We are creating again the golden calf to worship to. Thinking we are worshipping god, which we are not doing. We are worshipping the calf again.
This time with a tree, a egg laying bunny and an obese old man with a white beard.
The feasts and festivals written in the bible are HIS feasts and that's why the most important things for us concerning Jesus happend exactly during that time.
IP, I love your videos and I think the research and effort that you and your team does is amazing.
I wanted to ask if you could possibly do a video on the dating of the book of Daniel since there is a divide on this issue and I would really love the see you cover this topic.
Thank you and your team for all you guys do.
God bless 🙏
People really do say anything on TikTok lol.
*Me minding my own business tossing rocks across the pond*
Conspiracy Christians:”Is this Pagan?”
So, how is December 25 related to Christ?
Also, the book of Jeramiah speaks clearly of a tradition of heathens to decorate a tree in their house as a point of worship. Even if this is not the direct origin of Christmas trees, what could possibly the relationship of Christ to a Christmas tree.
Not Easter, not Christmas, not any other holiday or celebration. The ONLY observance we are directed to observe by Christ is the Lord's Table meeting. All else is the traditions of man.
Actually, in ancient Roman, December 25th was the time to celebrate Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun. The Sun God was venerated under different names all over the enormous territory of the Roman Empire and became the most important god during the 3rd century AD. The emperor Aurelianus built a big temple for the Sun God in Rome and inaugurated it right on December 25th, 274 AD. It is no wonder that the biggest celebration of the Sun God fell on this date at the beginning of winter time: on December 21st in fact, with the winter solstice, the sun “wins” his battle against the darkness, and the daylight hours slowly increase.
So the answer is yes, December 25th is pagan day.
@@pastorbell2653 He does very good research and presents it quite well, I'll give him that much. However, he has a few blind spots, one of which is Christmas. Christains LOVE their Christmas with both its public displays and private celebrations. A whole month when it is perfectly politically correct to declare their faith as loud as possible, all while ignoring those pesky historical facts.
"Lord! We celebrated Christmas in your name!"
"Truly, truly, I never knew you."
No. Jeremiah speaks clearly of pagans cutting down trees and carving idols out of them for worship. Inspiring Philosophy debunked this claim and is easily debunkable if you read the context.
@@TheStockCarStig Oh, so Christmas trees have a biblical basis? You wanna provide that to us?
@@chrisponsano4378 The Christmas tree tradition came from Chruches in Europe in the 15th century.
What about Jeremiah 10:1-5?? I was always told this was the reason for Christian’s against Christmas trees..I’m not as read up as you though it could mean something completely different
Pretty sure he's got a video about that. If not try Mike Winger.
Jeremiah is talking about gold-plated idols. These idols would be carved out of wood then plated with gold.
Christmas didn’t exist yet so it was not talking about that for sure
@@SamAdamsGhost by these people logic, the ark of the covenant is pagan also, because it was made from a tree, and plated with gold
@@pdub69triniboy fr
Non-Christians seem to forget that the quintessential Christian celebration is not Christmas but Easter. To my understanding, the date of Christmas was actually based on that of the Crucifixion. Early Church fathers had calculated the date of the original Good Friday as March 25. They also supposed that Jesus’ life ended a perfect cycle, on the same day of the year as it began, that is, his conception (a.k.a. the Annunciation). As Jesus would then have been born 9 months later, the Nativity was put at December 25.
Love the Santa hat 😄Great video
Thank you for always helping me to blend my faith based, historical based, and psychoanalytic based perspective so that I remain intellectually consistent in my beliefs.
I can see how someone who hasn't studied could believe some of these things, but how could anyone think that Odin delivered presents? Odin is not an obscure figure, and people know he was not like Santa Clause! That's like saying Poseidon rode around delivering presents, even lay people know it's wrong.
well one could say Zeus did that... expectably to young women
The Christmas custom of kissing under a sprig of mistletoe is a throwback to the Middle Ages. The Druids of ancient Britain believed that the mistletoe held magical powers; hence, it was used as protection against demons, spells, and other kinds of evil. It was used in strange worship relating to occult powers. (Church Christmas Tab)
According to PAGAN traditions it was a divine branch that had come from heaven and represented the Savior. It was claimed that the god Loki in envy killed the handsome god Balder with a dart made from the mistletoe; all other plants having vowed not to harm Balder-the mistletoe having been overlooked, was therefore used.
According to this PAGAN tradition, the mistletoe dart was plucked out of Balder’s fatal wound and given to the goddess of love, Freya, whence the custom that a lad may kiss a lass if he sees her under the mistletoe!
The New Encyclopedia Britannica says: “Tree worship, common among the PAGAN Europeans, survived after their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the Devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmastime.”
Christmas tree decorations go back to PRE-CHRISTIAN Teutons who decorated their evergreens with coiled strings of fruit and grain in honor of the sacred dragon Nitthager. Glittering balls of gold were used to pay homage to Balder, god of the ever mystical sun.
The European Christmas custom of burning a huge log in the fireplace can be traced back to the Scandinavians who kindled enormous bonfires in honor of their god of thunder, Thor!
Dr. Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons states: “Now the Yule Log is dead stock of NIMROD, deified as the sun-god, but cut down by enemies; the Christmas tree is Nimrod ‘redivivus’-the slain god come to life again.”
@@sunnyjohnson992correlation isnt causation, this is just a very well thought out association fallacy
Fine we'll give you the mistletoe
Even worshipping in a church is pagan😂😂.
Keep going..... Praying is pagan,
Observing fast is pagan too
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Y'all r still playing... Even our existence is pagan😂😂
We can't have an holiday in peace... Someone will still go out there and find a pagan holiday that happens d same day to match it up
Always find it funny how everyone starts the Christmas season in November, but come the 6th day of actual Christmastide everyone’s already moved on
Also funny how neo-pagans steal or make up ideas and then turn around and say we stole Santy-Claus
and are also the exact kind of people who would argue that ownership of ideas is itself immoral
It'd be interesting to also track down and cite where these glib people gain their unwitting subversions.
Now the real question, does anyone send this video to the lady? Lol I'm always curious when watching these if the person being corrected ever even sees the video.
May be, even if someone sends or she herself watches it, they shall still be in denial, in psychology, that's typically called as Dunning-Cruger effect
When are you going to learn Tiktokker
and again, most of this are just "tradition" and not biblical, especially in western countries. and Christmas in some other asian / eastern countries dont have the same tradition. We have our tradition about Christmas too, but yeah we have some from western Christmas tradition.
A lot of these Christians don't realize that a lot of these pagan holidays were invented after Christianity in ancient times, trying to compete with Christians, but Christians today look at it like vice versa, cuz these pagan holidays are ancient.
but just cuz they're ancient dont necessarily mean they were there first, and also just bc they're ancient doesn't mean Christians copied.
This goes back to all the hate that protestants have for the catholic church, but they
Proceed to believe what the Catholic Church really is not...
i think shes atheist though
@@el4276 yeah alot of atheist use these arguments too, so do Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons etc etc. Not realizing their a parroting all the same arguments.
FYI: Saint Nicholas(christian catholic saint!) inherited a lot of money from his parents, and he give it all away! one of the many ways that he accomplished this, was leaving gifts on socks beside the chimney in the houses of families in need. The same could be said about San Valentin and his association with romantic relations. The true is that christian saints had shaped(and continue shaping) western history!
Her confidence is hilarious 😂