Dolby Vision vs HDR10 | Which is Better? | Which One Do You Need?
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- Dolby Vision vs HDR10! In this HDR Showdown, I take you through what both have to offer. Click 'Show More' for details I did miss. Dolby Vision or HDR10? Who will win this HDR Showdown? Let's find out! Click "Show More" for missed information.
Some info I missed. Thank you Michelle Alexandria!
"What makes Dolby Vision inherently better, theoretically, is that Dolby Vision is an End to End solution. Films (all of the big budget ones) are now being shot in Dolby Vision and encoded with special meta data, that meta data is then translated into Dolby Vision HDR which is tied directly to your Hardware. So since you have an LG TV with Dolby Vision. The content will be optimized for your specific content. So you will get HDR tailored for your TV and Dolby Vision is applied at the Scene level as opposed to the entire picture like HDR10. The other nice thing about Dolby Vision is that since it is Hardware Based, Dolby Vision TVs have to meet stricter, higher end spec requirements to run it, so you know you are getting a top of the line HDR TV and your DV TV will most likely also have HDR10 (since that's software) so you'll have both. Unlike HDR10 which is Software based, therefore HDR10 TV will never be able to support Dolby Vision."
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Great to see the difference between the Dolby Vision version and the HDR version of Marco Polo. I do however have a problem with some of your explanations. Yes Dolby Vision is 12 bit, but it is down sampled to 10 bit on the tv. Dolby does claim that a down sample from 12 to 10 bit enables them to create a more precise color gradient in 10 bit, but neither that nor the 12 bit are the main reason behind the better quality on a properly mastered Dolby Vision source. HDR10 has a standard value that is used during the entire movie. Dolby vision is frame by frame based which means that the tv is optimized for each frame, and not just optimized for an average of the movie. That optimization does bring out more details, and that is the main reason behind the better picture quality of Dolby Vision compared to HDR10 at the moment.
Dolby now has netflix as a means of getting it to the masses as well. I think we are about to see what people like and do not like.
Thanks, dolby looks more real to life.i might be getting both,for different rooms.
You're awesome! Love all your videos, I always learn something new. Thanks for taking the time to make these great videos. 👍
You're welcome Doc, glad you like them!
Thanks for all the info! It's really helpful!
You are welcome! I will have more comparisons coming up!
Thanks for your video. I have been working on mastering and distribution of HDR content for 4 years. There are several issue, first 12-bit and 10-bit are signal formats and does not directly translate to better viewing experience! The viewing experience depends on how well your viewing device is capable of showing you the quality of the signal, e.g. the quality of the TV panel (type, gamut, actual bit-depth, internal processing, tone-mapping etc... Also, the main difference between 12-bit and 10-bit HDR has to do with the PQ EOTF of the signal and encoding. The PQ or ST2084 is designed to have every code value correspond to a certain nit-level which causes steps in the signal. the extra 2-bits in the 12 bit will allow for better-preservation of the information between the steps. however, at the moment there are no encoders on the market that is optimized for PQ or HDR (they do have HDR settings, but internally they are still optimized for gamma signal). Which means until we get there those extra-bits wont translate to a perceptible difference!
Also, your Marco Polo example is INCORRECT! that is not the difference between 10-bit and 12-bit. that is the difference between how the two versions were mastered! having worked with major studios, more than likely they did the DolbyVision HDR first and the HDR-10 was just an after thought and it was not mastered to the same creative quality of the DolbyVision version! ( it is not technical)
REC2020 is is used as a container in both HDR10 and DolbyVisionHDR. both signals are mastered to D65-P3 and re-contained in rec2020 for mastering and distribution!
If you need more info about HDR you can dm me.
Great in-depth video.
+Rhonnel K. Forde Thank you!
I'm so glad I decided to wait until now (late 2017) to upgrade my entire home theater system, including the tv (LG 65" 4K), AV receiver (Denon S series), Xbox One X., and a UHD blue ray player. All devices support both HDR formats! Can't wait to test the different formats for blue ray viewing.
I still watch all of your older videos Channa D. I learn something from all the ones I watch. Kudo's to you buddy.
This is an old one!!!
Thank goodness I just bought a simple 4K HDR tv. I learned my lesson with DVDHD vs Blu Ray. I bet on the wrong horse, I'm going to wait this one out.
That's a good plan Juan! There's even more HDR now, HLG, Technicolor, and HDR10+ will be out soon enough.
From what I have seen, I prefer HDR10 because it is much brighter. I think you need to have a a 1000 NITS+ OLED to fully appreciate Dolby Vision and the darkness not being a problem. I have a Sony x900H which looks amazing in HDR 10.
Thanks for sharing. I had the X900H for a while as well, great looking TV!
Dolby Vision is actually brighter. HDR10 only goes up to 1000 nits while Dolby Vision goes up to 10000 Nits. I'm guessing that current bright movies are only operating at about 2000 nits. "Nits" is a measure the brightness of a light source.
great visuals and source use thank you for your efforts!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Thanks for tilting up enough so I can see that you have a fire alarm above the door! I often wonder if TH-cam creators have proper fire detectors... and yes 12 bit is plenty of the compression is good
12 bit doesn’t matter since 99.9% of tvs are 8-10 bit. Dolby also supports thousands more nits of brightness but nothing can reach that level
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Ahhhhh......this is what I needed :)
I'm glad it helped!
Solution: Get support for both if you can! My Denon AVR-4400H and my Vizio 65” 4K M65-E0 BOTH support HDR10 and Dolby Vision. 4K formats are still in a volatile state. TV is NO WHERE NEAR set to broadcast 4K content anytime soon. All we really have in terms of native content is Blu Ray discs and some select streaming. I know this post is a year old but the standard still isn’t rock solid yet. At this point, if I was looking for these kinds of products, I’d keep my options as open as I could. The reason I went with the Denon & Vizio is the price to performance ratio. The quality vs. the features. Luckily I can say I can support both for years to come without worrying it will be totally obsolete in a year or 2. Do your research before purchase folks! Dolby Vision is probably the better format overall visually but true 12 bit displays are few and far between and the format winner is usually determined on which is the easier to support at the time which is probably HDR10 right now.
Great video and very informative! Thank you Techno Dad!
+Lee Ahegg You're welcome!! Thanks for watching!!
You said Rec2020 from DV. Rec2020 is an International standard and nothing to do with Dolby. Rec2020 color space applies to both 10 bit and 12 bit color mapping, and is used in HDR10. It just happens that displays today are just barely able to cover the majority of DCI P3 (Cinema standard), and producing close to 70% of Rec2020. We may see Rec2020 capable displays as early as 2020 (nice marketing tie), but not today regardless of DV.
LG OlED with Dolby Vision , Dolby Atmos and HDR , all three, is the way to go .
And after a year, you get some cool OLED burnin. So its really all 4 lol
Wow this video is still up after 6 years. Impressive.
Hah! This is an old one for sure.
Hey Channa. I like HDR10 and 10plus and don't get hung up about Dolby Vision. Yes DV is nice but I don't think it's truly a big deal. Samsung doesn't have DV but still sell the most TVS.
Something i don't understand: if i can see the differences in my old TV, why are those extra details and colors not on the HDR 10 verion? Again, i'm watching the vid in an old 1080p screen and i can see those dolby vision extra colors :/
I was thinking about the same thing.
+Paulo Lameiras: Like +Henri Holstila, I was also thinking the same thing. Basically, whenever we watch stuff about technologies that we can't see, it's like a colorblind person trying to see how the colors of something have improved. We just can't get it with our screens, so we don't know what is actually seen. Certainly, HDR10 should be better than your current screen, but why do both HDR types not just appear as good as your screen can possibly handle? I think that generally, at least in advertisements if not here, the video is graded, with saturation and contrast boosted to give us an effect, but in real life, it all looks different and so we have to see it in person. Of course if they wanted to simply add a reddish color to the sky, any TV (that is not black-and-white) is capable of that. So yeah...why does it not appear to be there? +Andreas Tzimboukakis says that it may be due to incorrect tonemapping on one of the TVs (neither of which can actually play 12 bit content).
I guess it has more to do with the player and the TV able to decode those additional details in the picture.
well you dont see the colors hdr10 is missing. you are seeing "a version of those missing colors captured by a normal camera" used by the youtuber. when the camera sees those colors it matches them to the nearest defined color in its abilities. imagine you are sitting with a friend and you hear a strange sound but your friend doesn't. then when you two meet with a 3rd friend you are telling the story "we were sitting and i heard a sound like (tschchstschs), but my friend#2 didnt hear it." friend#3 turns into friend#2 and says: "are you deaf, how can you not hear it? even I can hear that sound".
You dont see them, because they dont exist. Those details were remastered with Dolby vision. Its not that they were edited in, its just that the creatorsof the content would normally compress data to 8bit colour and only kept in uncompressed for 12 bit when they had dolby vision. Sothe HDR10 file isnt getting the same access of information that a dolby vision stream is getting. So pretty much any HDR10 capable tv is able to display Dolby Vision 10bit, but some have not paid for the licencing.
So the ground is cleaner in HDR10? Where do I signup man? I hate dirty floors 😂😂😂
Lolololol!!!
I hate dirty floors too lmao😂😂😂🤘
@@TechnoDad I'm wondering which of these TVs best shows the first five minutes of Marvel's Black Panther: Philips 43pus7354 / 12, sony kd43xg8196, sony kd8396, samsung QE43Q60rat, or some panasonic, LG or Hisense in that category?
I don't know why this doesn't have more views. great explanation and content. just subbed.
+Keegbot Plays Thank you so much!! I'm glad you found it informative!
Very informative video thanks dude !
You're welcome!!
This is inaccurate. How can you compare Dolby Vision (12 bit) versus HDR 10 (10 bit) on a TV that has a 10 bit panel? You can't. Your overview does not make sense in that regard. The same way as TVs with 8 bit panels cannot be proper HDR TVs if they cannot meet the wider colour gamut required to properly display HDR content. So the question is, how do you get 4,096 gradient levels on a 10 bit panel like the LG OLED E6? You won't be able to measure this until 12 bit panels become commercially available. As far as I know, there aren't any yet.
Well- this video has many false or misleading statements.
Your example is just one of them. As you said- even professional grading displays are not capable of reproducing 12bit.
DolbyVision as technology is superior, but this is yet to be fully utilised in real world, specially at home environment. At the moment you can forget about 12bit v 10bit as most consumer TVs can't even reliably do 10bit (and those mentioned details have nothing to do with 12bit at all). Best thing about DolbyVision is that it carries metadata per scene (not per whole movie like HDR10), which can be reliably used as a reference to adjust each scene for each display capabilities.
Even for no-techy people:
www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-vision/dolby-vision-white-paper.pdf
Andrew Kolakowski Thanks. That white paper was very informative. Much appreciated!
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mata matosa What's that got to do with anythimg hmmm?
Big part of this videos comparing HDR to SDR and HDR10 to Dobly VISIO, are BS. How can I on a 6bit panel, emulating 8bit color depth, can se the diference too?
The biggest differences between the two are caused by bad Remastering of the HDR10 content. Obviusly, if you are paying for Dobly vision you are expecting to get proper support from the developors.
I am getting the Lg NANO CELL 2019 TV AND IT HAS HDR 10 AND DOLBY VISON
Nice!!
Have the philips the one he has also both its nice
Wrong it supports hdr10 not hdr10+
@@grim86 who cares, HDR10+ is dying out completely only Samsung backs it
@@Dr.WhetFarts so dolby vision will have better picture quality on disney plus compared to hdr10?
Honestly I like this guy! subbed :)
Hi! Thanks!
Really informative, subscribed.
+Arrow Slice Thank you!!
the Vizio P65 is the best bang for your buck that supports both formats right now.
i thought all sets that support dolby support hdr10
TCL P-series is also damn good.
Rocky lg 8500 versus 8000
Agreed! If I could have afforded a several extra hundreds of dollars, that’s what I ideally would have gone with.
So a weird thing with LG oled is that they are not showing HDR10 correctly it cannot tone map HDR10 so the clipps the highlights way too much and the detail in the bright areas rolls off way to early. Dolby vision on LG oled works correctly with the tonemapping it provides.
Really? Hmmm...I'll have to check out the same scene on my LG LED 4K TV and see if this is true. Thanks for the heads up!
Andreas Tzimboukakis maybe but Sony new OLED with self illuminating pixels with x1 extreme 8 core processor tech. Which has based on intel XEON 8 core processor tech. With LCD 4K tv panel to max brightness and contrast with light sensor adjusting sensor where each pixel will adjust to max images detail and know how bright it should make bright images and dark images based on amount light in room or dark room is. Tv feature android and every type HDR there is as well Dolby Vision and Dolby Vision with HDR.
no doubt that sonys oled would wipe the floor with LGs cause of the superior image processing. Sony still consider their z9 their flagship HDR tv for 2017.
Andreas Tzimboukakis there be no z9 what think A1E is the z9 replacement using it processor and totally new type LCD screen from what I saw and much more check out CES channel to learn more.
No the oled doesnt replace z9. Z9 is better for HDR thats why it still regarded as the flagship. The oled is just a alternative.
Very clarifying, Thanks!!
You're welcome!
Good video. Up untill now I didn't even know what Dolby Vision was .
correction : SuperUHD LG tvs support both dolby vision and hdr10.
k2thedevil Yea the high end LG support Dolby!
Nicholas J. Paris yes so will Sony once higher end models start coming out as well every type of HDR as well.
Mike Johnson true. For some reason I don't see many Sony anymore.. Usually LG vs samsung
I think HDR 10 IS perfect
Great video. Subscribed.
Thank you!!
was informative!! thank you!!
+Pranav Sarwin CB You're welcome!!
Unless you attached the wrong label to the pictures the HDR10 looked better but being that you only have a 10 bit tv anyway you wouldn't see the benefit of Dolby Vision. The difference between 8 and 10 bit is huge so the extra 2 bit from 10 to 12 will surely have a similar effect no?
And certainly a youtube video with the intense crunching youtube does, you just can't see ANY actual difference.
my lg has both
+donnie collins Nice! You're all set for the future!
donnie collins maybe but you been better off waiting for Sony OLED model A1E comes in 55 65 and 77 and pretty nice. Only two LG tv which handle HDR tech nicely but won't have Sony app selection do to fact Sony runs google latest android tv system. Those to LG are W7 and G7 unless want something more on level of 3 in half stars out five quality feature Dolby vision support and HDR picture which won't exceed HDR10 quality then E7 for you.
donnie collins same here, hate the edge lit banding though 😖
Mike Johnson the lg w7 oled has all the hdr formats as well.
Brandon Westover Note I stated they put w series panel into their A1 series OLED when it comes to Sony. Yet there no need for it or any panel I think. Since it uses no LED lighting of any kind. Instead it using totally independent self lighting pixels.
LG-UP970 ($280), Sony UBP-X800 ($300), Panasonic DMP-UB900 ($600) support Ultra Premium (HDR10)
Oppo UDP-203 ($550) or Oppo UDP-205 ($1300) supports both Ultra Premium (HDR10) and Dolby Vision (HDR12) 4K.
The UBK90 has both and is the best, excellent 4K player from LG great for movies.
HDR10+ is the future.
+officialpartychannel I guess we will have to see. Vudu has partnered with Dolby, and is streaming 4K content with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. It's going to be an interesting ride!
Techno Dad but steaming.......
I agree with officialpartychannel, dolby has an advantage now but at the end of the day people and manufactures prefer to not spend money when possible so someone will bump up hdr10 to 12 bit eventually which... may I be honest? I have a 10 bit panel... like a real 10 bit 1440p monitor that doesn't need to do stupid HDR trickery to achieve what HDR is trying to do and when compared to my other 8 bit 1440p screen, I've never noticed a difference between the two until someone whips out a still image for me to look at and really take the time to look at it to see those differences and let me point this out, 10 bit removes all banding effects that might exist in a picture already. HDR might not be a gimmick (It is doing other things) but the extra bit of colors, those 12 bit over 10 (or even 8) is a gimmick, just one that is not going away anytime soon.
Come to think about it as I really do sit down and think of it, this is basically prologic all over again, the video itself is not in 10 or 12 bit, its in 8bit and a codec is sent to the TV along with it, dolby's software picks it up and decodes the signal. Its not at all a true 12 bits of color its just TRYING to convince you that it is 12 bits, just like prologic was not real surround sound. It was just trying to convince you it was.
It's highly dependent on the individual. I have sensitive eyes and can notice differences between monitors and panels immediately. (it's also not that hard to tell when a monitor is using dithering.) from a 6, 8, 10, or 12 bit panel it becomes much harder after 12~14 because of how smooth the gradients become. I have a large number of individuals who claim they cannot see a difference between 60 and 120~144 Hz. I can as well as some friends and family I know. I had at one time been called by my parents and asked why their PC on their 144 Hz monitor had become "slow" like everything had slowed down. They had been doing adjustments and accidentally reduced the refresh rate to 60. While they did not know it was the refresh rate that was impacted they could immediately tell that the rendering had slowed significantly just by minimizing a window. On a side note I have been calibrating monitors and TV's for years. Which may attribute to why I am so used to seeing the differences.
Bruh, the lighting of your door is so distracting.
Yeah, that sucks
Hey Techno Dad, Your quote from Dolby was pretty much my mindset going into 4k to begin with. I wanted stuff good enough to see what kind of differences I would see with the new tech, and then decide after a few years, what the direction was to go. Right now, I'm still content with 1080p as my main source of content, but HDR 10 makes enough difference for me that has kept me interested in 4k content in it's current state Because of the visual impairment I deal with, while I am able to appreciate good quality video, audio (music, and movie soundtracks ) hold more interest in audio. I was more excited over the 5.1 soundbar from Vizio i put in the bedroom over the 4K tv I got last year.
Actually, I find it more exciting to hear and evaluate a surround mix, that previously I've only heard in 2 channel Great video, have a great day!
...thanks 4 the advice!
10 more years and the display technologies will reach the quality of Panasonic/Pioneer PLASMA from 5 years ago.
+Ágoston Berkó haha! I had one of Panasonic's Kuro killer plasmas. It was awesome!!
But they were so heavy, and sensitive, Also the burn in was a real issue, especially if you used it to game or watched a lot of content with static images.
Also OLED will be much better.
cheddar07 that burn in was such a pain in the arse. I paid a shit load for my Pioneer plasma and it got screen burn after the first time I played a game on it. SO pissed off after that, having the hid from Mass effect on everything I watched 😠
You can't compare HDR10 and Dolby Vision on a LG OLED as HDR10 will just look inferior due to technical limitations. If you watch HDR10 content on a flagship Samsung TV then it's clear that 1.) HDR10 can look as detailed as Dolby Vision and 2.) current OLED TVs can't keep up in terms of brightness. Also there are currenty no mass market TVs available which feature a 12 Bit panel, so Dolby Vision will have to wait a few years longer to make best use of this format.
Samsung TVs don't do Dolby Vision, so you can't do this comparison on aSamsung. I'm still wondering why Samsung fanboys still bring up the brightness issue. The OLED can create a perfect black level, and therefore doesn't need to be as bright. Samsung has to have above 1500 nits to make anything that comes close. And if you watched the video, I stated twice that TVs now will not take full advantage of Dolby Vision.
Techno Dad agree with Sony new android update and new OLED you get both and lot more even if you have z9D
Techno Dad enough brightness is needed for hdr bro, this is not about fanboys.
young mille you can get everything nits needed and black levels and image quality using Sony OLED which uses X1 extreme imaging 8 core processor. With separate X1 extreme processor for android operating system tv runs. So you get amazing picture in every way and apps would load super fast as well. As well get all needed HDR formats needed and Dolby Vision support needed.
Mike Johnson it's just that will be too expensive, I own the ks8000 and I don't have any problem so far, it's a great tv.
Valuable explanation! thanx pal!
Thanks for watching!
awesome awesome awesome!!!! you just helped me make my mind up just by saying are you going to miss something thats not there.. lol sounds dumb but your absolutely right!! THanks for the video man
Best is the Sony Z9D
Sony's X1 Extreme chip i the Z9D is awesome, and I can't wait to see that in the A1 OLED coming out later this spring. That may be one of the best PQ TVs in 2017. They are also supporting both Dolby Vision and HDR10 with the new A1.
Techno Dad correct get this it thanks to z9 there going be A1 OLED later in year they took Z9 tech to next level but unlike z9 which is for personal use A1 is for family use like my home where there 3 other people living in House. and there standard picture black levels and so on must be meet or be yelled at is why I pick Sony OLED because I get needed nits color brightness level black levels frame rate for my brother video games and my and dad get needed black levels for his sci-fi films and color and brightness needed for films like into heart of sea which mom likes. And I get Dolby Vision and hdr support needed for Netflix progress like crown and Dolby Vision with HDR10 for Netflix program Daredevil.
agree and they also use legendary imaging mapping tech. only normally projectors uses they been making for past ten year or more which they call bit-mapping how it perk I don't know. they say it supposed allow each pixel allow tv help to make more true to life images. instead on how much brightness and black levels the A1E OLED they are concentrating on how true to life images tv will show. note it have 3 years parts and labor and 24/7 tech support and troubleshooting help. so they say we will see once it hits market if all this is true.
LED tv wise it is Z9D
Mike Johnson Sony is using LG display oled panels. The g6 oled by LG for example far surpasses the uhd alliance requirements showing 99% of p3 colour; in terms of oled patents LG owns more than any of the other major tv companies the TVs come with 5 year warranty and 24/7 tech support with parts available for at least 5-7 years. The banding issues etc have been addressed with the 2016/17 oled's by LG the only downside is motion processing however it's barely noticeable. Sound wise harman kardon speakers are with LG's TVs which give surprisingly good sound and format wise they support both hdr standards with a update coming soon for HLG etc.
Don't get me wrong Sony make good tv's but specs are one thing real world performance another and LG is known for higher customer satisfaction and longer support for products.
This is all a gimmick only the experts can see a difference don't fall for the BS people
I have seen OLED's running HDR and it looks amazing for movies. Blacks look jet black and colors look look really bright but it all looks life like and realistic.
Thanks for the clear explanation!👍
No problem!
You can make HDR10 look like DV with some equipment like the PS5. Adjust HDR settings for better blacks. Settings - 1. Make Sun disappear 2. Make Sun disappear 3. Sun at lowest level
Thanks!👍
Thanks for the comparison. Can you tell me where to buy the sound panels on your walls? Thanks
It’s 2019, 2 years later, lol...and we still don’t have 12 bit TVs...and probably won’t for a long time. To have that much color you need a really high quality panel that is super expensive to make.
Nice presentation, thanks.
+LeamerCat Wild You're welcome! Glad you liked it!
Great video!
Nice explanation i subscribed
Thank you!
While you were talking about this stuff. 8k just came out. Lol.
Great video.
+Michael Hinchey Lol!
Just wanted to thank you for the great videos. Lots of great info broken down simple for me. But at the same time you are killing my wallet lol.
+Jeung21 LOL! You're like the second person to say that today! Ha ha ha!
6:07-6:11 that Sony Vegas Pro?
Very good information
+Frank Cervantes Hi! Thank you!
keep it up love your vids
Thank you!
Thanks for the quick reply, I just have one more question , what kind of sound am I getting from my yamaha soundbar (ysp 1600) coming from Netflix watching Dolby vision compared to Xbox one s with its options for bitstream Dts, dd, Xbox won't decode 5.1?
hey great video. i have a question for you regarding my signal from my e6 oled to my denon receiver. i also use my oppo 203 for 4 k blurays. so my question is, how can i get dolby vision when im playing movies on my oppo, it shows hdr only since its going through my receiver. But, when i connect my hdmi from my tv straight to my oppo, it shows dolby vision. basically when the signal is passing through my receiver its out putting it only as hdr. if you could help , id appreciate it. thanks again and great video as always!
OUTSTANDING video!!!!!
+Jean Nelson Thank you so much!!!
I bought a 2021 model Panasonic LCD last year and it's basically an 8bit that fakes being 10bit through some IPS panel trickery. So we're not further on from back then unless you're spending more than a grand. So unless you know what you're missing, then you're not missing anything.
I see vertical lines across all three but as theory would suggest the 12 bit is the smoothest....though it is not that much better than the 10.
Consider it is a lot easier for us to discern grey scale variation in tones than if these were in color because our eyes have far more luminance sensitive receptors (rods) when compared to color sensitive ones (cones). Thus it would be even harder to discern variation between any two adjacent gradations in a color based gradation pattern. (some colors like blue and red are less chromatically acute than others...green which dominates the cones).
Good and instructive video but i was at the impression that dolby vision is not yet out and it will be only at 2020 and just one more question? Just beside you you got a speaker stand and i am looking for something like that can you tell me the name of the compagnie that does those please and sorry to disturb you with that
thanks dude new week i buy 65 inch hdr tv from tcl
Wait a minute, If I recall desktop computers have been able to output 16bit & 32bit color since before I can remember, has it really taken 20+ years to get a display that can take advantage of it?
I think I will be ok with HDR10 until I get a new tv that has both!
Thank you T.D!!
You’re welcome Chaz!
I have the 2016 LG OLED C6P in 65 inch just like you. My concern is this, I have been reading the Dolby Vision in 2016 LG OLEDs only capable of 30Hz and not the 60Hz max needed for the new Apple TV 4K. Is it true? Please help clarify.
Thanks for an informative video. I’ve been tossing and turning about the Samsung Q80T vs. the LG NANO91, and ended up going for the LG, which has Dolby Vision. However, the Samsung seems to come out on top in all the reviews. So my question is; now that I’ve got a tv which supports Dolby Vision, will I ever need HDR10 instead? I.e. are there any benefits of HDR10 that Dolby Vision does not have?
I have the 85inch Q80T instead of the LG OLED 77 inch which is double the price of Q80t and smaller in size. I'm glad I went to Samsung and I'm really happy with it's picture quality specially the blacks are more inky now than the previous model, OLED maybe a bit better in blackas but for double the price difference and small size? No thank you. I rather spend that money for my Audio system instead.
HDR10+ nice detail ✌👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐.
I don't know where to ask this question, sorry. Well, if I buy 4k tv which doesnt support dolby atmos, and download movie in 4k resolution from torrent which says, for example- terminator uhd truehd atmos, will my tv play this movie? Thanks.
Very informative. Thank you. +1 sub from me. Keep it up!
+mementorequiem Thanks for watching!!
For me it’s comes down to, is Dolby vision available? Yes? Sweet, I use it, my tv supports it, cool. If the movie only has hdr10, cool, my tv supports hdr10 also.
Dolby is great, but if it’s not available, I don’t feel like you’re missing much. But if Dolby vision is available, I always prefer it over the standard.
I always say, to compare anything we have to use a reference point which is the original sample. In this way we will be able to see which of those two pictures resemble the original one...EZ.
Which mobile can read NTFS driver inbuilt without any 3rd paty apps ?
& it can play smoothly 12bit (hevc) 4k / 1080p NTFS torrent movie file (more than 4gb)
Great video. I Am a big videophile myself. I had a question regarding your opinion on what is the most accurate HDR on lg Oled there are three options?
+Michael Baron Hi! I would say Dolby Vision. 2017 models are supposed to have 4. HDR10, HLG, Dolby Vision, and Technicolor. I believe technicolor is still not released for them yet.
If the eye can only see between 7 and 10 million distinct colors (depending on which google-derived article you read), what good is a video source (eg. a TV) that can display 1.7 or 68.68 billion different tones? The human eye will not be able to utilize any of the enhancements? Or am I missing somethnig? (Great video, btw!)
Thanks for this video, awesome job! So hopefully you have time and maybe can give me some input. I bought the Sony 900E last June. I love the TV so much, it has high end specs and quality for a price that can’t be beat. But my question is... should I upgrade from 2017 Sony to the Sony 2018 900F That has Dolby Vision.
I know the 900F isn’t out for yet, but in general is upgrading my 2017 to the newer Dolby 2018 tv really going to change my life? Again just curious on what you think. Thanks. 🙂✌️
Hi! I don't think it's worth it. Not sure what size you bought last year, but the 55" 900F is $1,500 this year.
Techno Dad Thank you so much for your input... I’m only considering it because I got my 900E for only $850, (I work for Best Buy and was given a big discount by Sony.) So instead of paying $1,700, I paid a great price.
This year Sony will offer another 50% off deal for Sony and BBY employees so I could get the new one for $750. Again that’s the only reason why I’m even asking if I should. Thanks again though for you advice. 🙂👍✌️
Hello .!! Witch TV would you choose for 3000 euros? SONY KD55A1BAEP OLED , LOEWE bild 4.55 OLED , PANASONIC TX-55EZW954 OLED , LG 65B7D OLED , PHILIPS 55POS9002 ?? It will be used for Home Theater
HDR 10 and Dolby Vision are both excellent. Especially if you have a tv that supports both like I do. I have the LG 65C6 OLED and both look superior on it.
What about a budget TV like TCL which has both? Are those any good?
great video review
+aundra lambert Thank you!
LG’s 2017 65uj7700 offers Dolby Vision in a side-lit local dimming LED IPS. I know it is not ideal, however it is thousands less than the upper echelon 65” oleds that offer Dolby vision support. The question is this, while watching Okja on Netflix, the Dolby vision image setting automatically activated. However, there is no way to know what are the more advanced D65 (6500K white balance) settings to manipulate on this specific image setting for the most accurate color? Knowing that Rtings.com’s settings recommendation was for SDR and UHD, what is there by way of calibration files to use when Dolby Vision settings of any supported TV are toggled (something along the lines of a Spears & Musil type media file encoded in Dolby Vision with gradients and color swatches to manipulate contrast, brightness, color settings and the like for your viewing room to get as close to D65 on Dolby Vision content)?
Great video
+Dean Hall Thank you!
Do you have any videos detailing out how you went about installing that sound dampening material in the background?
+ashams3 Hi! No I don't, but it's not that hard. I used a 3M adhesive spray and then just held each piece in place for about 30 seconds to 1 minute.
I clearly see highlights on HDR10, not quite as popping as Dolby, but it is there. But then again, i grew up in the B&W era, color was available, but the cost of a set was not justifiable to a lot of the working class.
Techno Dad is Bae 💖
Good Video by the way.
Thanks!
How are you viewing 12bit on a 10bit screen? Should that be downscaled to 10bit anyway? And those gradient examples are the same. The reason why you dont see any breaks in the gradient in the "12bit" version is because of dithering.
If I have a tv that supports hdr and hdr 10 plus but not Dolby vision will a blue ray player that supports Dolby vision play on my tv which has a 10 bit panel ?
Excellent video man, answered many of my questions. Good job, keep it up!
+Roberto Lopez Thanks for watching!!
I think it all boils down to what format will be supported by movies. I buy blurays, i will buy 4k blurays and they will come out with one support, i do not think we will get a movie for both.
Unfortunately my lg 4k tv has Dolby vision but isn't compatible with x box one x can't think why
What if i will play my dolby vision movie From apple tv to my 4k hdr tv? Do i get to see hdr/dolby vison/ normal 4k ?
Great comparison. I was going to buy a new 4K TV this year to replace by 65 LG Plasma, but decided to wait. I still have a great picture, great blacks, and there is still not much 4K content. The LCD and OLEDs are still not where Plasma was. Should be in a few years. Definitely want Dolby Vision after your comparison which puts Samsung out of the race.
Hi! Yeah, it's bit early to tell what's going on with TVs. Samsung's MicroLED might beat out OLED but it may not have Dolby Vision. All we can do is wait and see. Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching!
Thanks for helping me sleep