Muffler Showdown! What's the Best Muffler for Your Engine? | Engine Masters | MotorTrend
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- Want to add a muffler to your engine's exhaust? Find out what type of muffler makes an engine the most powerful, whether it's a 350 horsepower engine or a 1000 horsepower engine!
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This needs to be a regular segment every year with all the newest mufflers to the market.
I would like to see the muffler test ran again, but with the motor in the first part of the video. That's more realistic for a common person, with respect to sound and gains.
True but when you have build v8s just laying around. Hah
Exactly!
May not see much difference since the smaller engine isn’t flowing much. But would be interesting
@@StubProductions They don't flow as much but they have much smaller exhaust system so the rules of physics must able to them and so a larger exhaust system must do something to them. Since so many people have these engines, it would be interesting and informative for the rest of us.
@@kirkblackadar7299 You don't?
I would really like to see a comparison with the same engine (345hp V8) and exhaust size (2.5") used in all tests, and test the different TYPES of mufflers, not just brands of mufflers. So glasspack (magnaflow) vs chambered (flowmaster) vs turbine (jones or aero) vs turbo (pypes or jones) vs spiral flow (moroso). Maybe even throw one of Flowmaster's Super HP-2 laminar flow mufflers in as well for good measure. Track the max HP and torque, as well as the max dB from the exhaust pipes, and have an audio recording of each muffler tested so users can give them a listen and find their subjective tastes.
Idk if its really gonna do much they prob thought of this
Someone send this to project farm dude would be the perfect one to test
How are $25 glass packs not on here?
I know, right?! They are straight through design too!
Lol right
Rigged System!
They’re identical to straight piping, so it just depends on your exhaust diameter and engine!
@@HOVREDDY I'll have to disagree slightly. They are identical to straight pipes the way any straight thru design is. N since they covered other more expensive straight thru mufflers, why not throw some glasspacks in too?
Magnaflows are my favorite they're quiet low RPMs and loud at high RPMs
You said it right
Because of this show, I installed a single 3” hooker maximum flow on my 5.9 Dodge Ram van with a 3” tail pipe over the rear end. Super happy with how it sounds and feels!! Just did a 2000 mile road trip and couldn’t be happier!
Thanks fellas
So happy I watched these guys through college. Level 2 auto tech and welder now. Listening to these boys I tuned a 2.0tfsi Audi on stock parts to over 300whp.
You mean you paid an apr vendor 699 to put a tune on your car?
Borla looks like it was welded in a high school shop class! 😄
That's the hooker can but yea it does look pretty bad
@@dustinandtarynwolfe5540 No it was the Borla I saw
@@dustinandtarynwolfe5540 every borla ive come across has fat ol welds lmao, flowmaster let them have the extra weld they didnt use on theirs
love my FLOWMASTER SUPER 10 SERIES.
Please tell me. They're not on a stock Ford explorer.
On a Hyundai Accent.
@@reaper20015 😆
I can second that about the Flowmaster muffler they work well as skid plate I've had them make sparks across Bridge joints in a drag car and have had them hold up for 20 years
Should have tested the Flowmaster Super 10.
“In the last 15 years I don’t remember doing this test, And I don’t remember anything before that period” 😂😂 best
I always liked thrush straight through tin can right off a header . Fiberglass packed with turndowns . No tailpipes !!! Dang that 440 would rumble !!! ✊🏻👍👌
I have an 87 K5 with a tbi 350. It had a stock exhaust. I used a magnaflow rumble muffler and it sounds perfect. No annoying droning and has a deep tone. 60 bucks at O'Reilly auto parts.
I remember a year ago or so when this was first shot. Not a bad episode 👍🏻
Awesome episode. I have a 09 G8 and the hooker maxflows have changed the game for me. Not only were they much quieter than the kooks mufflers, but they made 2hp more on the dyno. And the lower end actually improved by a max of 5hp/4lb ft. I love them. This test just proves I made the right choice when I picked them up. Quantification at its finest
How much quieter are the hookers???
There’s plenty of cheap mufflers that would outflow the magnaflow. Put a $20 glasspack on there and it’s gonna flow well and not cost much at all. Would have loved to see a comparison in this video with a 2-1 setup vs the true duals
Yeah but it be ridiculous to drive constantly. A Good muffler reduces noise without creating back pressure
Glass packs work in tight places, traditional sound. I like em right off the headers. They burnout faster, then they sound better. I think the Dynomax race magnum series are great, but they do have some drone down low off idle.
68 Dodge Dart Swinger 340's had a great sound right from the factory.
Love watching your videos
I have a Magnaflow catback on my 95 Camaro Z28 along with eBay stainless longtube headers. Made a huge difference. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I got $29 Summit 3" welded turbos (flowtech afterburner) with my 454, quiet inside and sreaming outside.
My 05 grand marquis has a flowmaster super 10. I scrape a speed bump twice every day going into and leaving work. its held up beautifully after 2 years.
My 2023 Mazda 3 2.0 NA has a flowmaster super 10 .. im so happy for the result
2 and a half inch 1 chamber flow masters on my built 306. Best muffler out there.
Great show👍
I put a Magnaflow SS system in my '05 GTO when it was new. It's still under there doing its job 16yrs later. It's quiet at cruise & loud at WOT.
You get what you pay for.
@@jodycarter6109 The system was $1k installed at a local muffler shop.
@@MrUltraworld should have just got glass packs for les than half that price
I like the deep bassy sound of Borla, they are the muffler of choice for my daily driver.
I just put a set of pypes M-80 race mufflers in my foxbody 5.0 mustang, i love the sound , and the price!
Since you guys read all the comments I've seen a ton of header tests, but I haven't seen a 180° header or 8 into 1 tested. Those 2 would be an uptick in views
Flowmaster FlowFX series has a straight thru design and sounds amazing, plus it is stainless and you can get the 3in in/out centered for around $70. Hard to beat if you ask me. Would've loved to see it included here.
Every 3 more decibels the sound DOUBLES.
Id go for the one with the best sound quality. With 1060 HP, nobody could tell an adfitional HP. It would all be phycological and the loudest one would feel the most powerful even if it was in last place.
Very true 🎉
I'm running 2 FM Delta 50's on my XJ and they sound amazing! It doesn't sound like any other I6 I've ever heard.
mine used to sound interesting haha th-cam.com/video/BxkQSGx1CjA/w-d-xo.html
Did you keep the cat? I've got a 99 with over 400k and the factory cat.. not sure if she had a clog or not but I can't imagine its flowing like new lol
@@keithbaker1951 I run two aftermarket cats. small high flow or 'spin buns' lol, in place of the stock since it's older and uses the regular cats. Later models will need a different cat or a tune to keep the CEL from coming on.
look im just gonna comment because he was loving that flowmaster muffler so hard. its the truth.
i bought some flo pro mufflers for my vortec sbc build last year. they are flow pro super v mufflers. flo pro makes great exhaust for diesels at a good price. they got into gas motors because people love their products.
i got 2 2.5" super v mufflers for 70 bux shipped. they lasted 20k miles and i drove it in winter and didnt want to because its a clean car.
the mufflers are fine. they are super strong and do not take damage. i bet the flowmasters are a little better metal. but flo pro super v is just as good and less money.
makes a deep sound. quiet till half throttle. no rasp. you cant hear your cam chopping. just low deep glug or blub sound but it sounds like power.
same motor with open headers sounds like a potato cam. very nice sound nobody has complained yet about it they all love the sound. i hope someone sees this and tries them because its a lesser known with the gas motor guys brand and im acutally very happy with them. ill buy mufflers from them now for a long time.
Just watching now but I'd really like a sound clip comparison between the different set ups. Be able to get an idea of sound differences.
How about with an x pipe installed. Might really change the flow dynamics of the flowmasters since they have a baffle in there. Not sure if it would make it better or worse though
I've put flowmasters on my trucks for years. Great sound and durability. They last forever
Magnaflow or Flowmaster are the top defactos
A test with the far-more-quiet Dynomax Super Turbo would have been interesting to see! Wouldn't flow as well as the straight-through, but I bet it would be far better than the Thrush!
I ran 2 1/4 inch Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers on my 1990 Mustang GT. Timing was at 12° BTDC, off road H-pipe and K&N air filter with air filter silencer removed. It sounded almost like the stock mufflers at idle but had a strong and throaty tone at WOT. Never got pulled over on Woodward Ave for excessive noise/mufflers by the local LEO's. All the other Mustang's seemed to have Flowmaster or cheaper version mufflers. Too loud at WOT and excessive drone at cruising speed.
Wowza. The cheapest muffler (Hooker) made the best HP, basically equal to the best torque, and yet was almost the quietest. Clear winner IMO. Granted, this analysis leaves out the main point of a muffler....the sound. Couldn't really tell without hearing it in person.
i went with 2.5 dynomax super turbo for my el camino w/327 ci
I'm getting deja vu watching this, must be a refresh.
It’s an old video
"That's a HUGE difference" 3.7% horsepower loss. Also, the differential wasn't listed right on the graph. The numbers show a 13hp loss on Thrush, but it says "-3.1".
Ya they arent great at mathing 😂
I use Dynamax Bullets. My SBC has 3", and my 454 has 3.5" collectors. I tried short Flowmaster chambered mufflers on the 454 (660 HP), and they were about .03-.05 (always compensating for weight between 14-20 LBS. a pair) slower than the Bullets. The 305 (383 HP) loses .05 with mufflers at the same GVW. Not bad. Just FYI, NONE are all that quiet. LOL!
Spin Techs are awesome
Muffler is implied, just to reduce annoying noise pollution, if it reduces noise without creating back pressure then it's a win win.
I have Long tubes, x pipe, 2.5 inch exhaust to a pair of 14" magnaflow mufflers, sounds soooo good
I’m definitely considering the exact setup besides the muffler part. Do you have any sound
@@henryewald9327 I know I have at least 1, I'll see if I have others
Spintech!!
Try slapping a glass pack to reduce back pressure then no more than 24" straight pipe going into a dual chambered muffler off the glass pack and a over axle bend exhaust pipe to see if you get more or less torque an power when these parts are separately installed and or combined, when combined exhaust is quiet but doesnt make it lack power from my experience at least thats what it seemed. 2 into one exhaust hemi.
WOW!!!! I AM IMPRESSED!!!! Today you can buy the perfect muffler for your specific application. And generate high numbers as well. Thanks for sharing.
Love these
Glad I've always gone with the Magnaflow on all my vehicles
Any dyno runs with Porter steel pac mufflers? Or big single pipe exhaust ie 3.5” - 4.0” vs dual.
15 years of experience... when you test 2 types of catbacks I suppose you need to take a look at the map tune as well, right? If you make it richer/leaner or messing a bit with the timing, maybe the outcome will be different. It's obvious that just replacing a part will not bring any performance, especially for an NA engine.
Flowmasters!!👍🏁
Need to do the flowmaster laminar flow and the cherrybomb vortex!!!!!!! Test these against the old tech and then you can say you're up to date and relevant!
Hooker aero chamber 3 inch. Offset like the flows good combo for flow and actually quieting a car down. My neighbor thanked me for using em. Lol.
I have a flowmaster super 10 on my 09 silverado. It's loud and deep and I don't have that annoying straight pipe clap.
How much power will a single 3 exhaust handle? I have a RCSB Silverado with American Racing headers and y pipe. It has a flange for single exhaust. The problem is the 550hp Stroker LS I’m building for it! Will I choke it with a single 3?
I would love to see yall do test with sweet thunder exhaust
I have a built 355 motor its pushing about over 500hp has mild racing cam and hooker headers what's the best duel exhaust mufflers Install?
Can you please do a draw through turbo setup be interesting to know the pro’s and cons with power lost or gained ? 😊✌️
With forced air, scavenging is not as important. I would go 3" all the way. But that is just my theory.
I have a draw though turbo for n my vw air cooled and I can say they work but blow thru would be better
Any way y’all could do an oval vs round exhaust shootout?
I’ll buy that engine
Always been a fan of Magnaflow, but only ever had 4 cylinders.
Sucks to suck
What kind of muffler should I use for my st it’s 3.0l tt ?
I am looking for 2 mufflers ; single inlet and single outlet for a 2017 Jeep Compass ; don't like the 25 1/4 in. Muffler . I want 2 mufflers mounted in stock position but sounds like a dual setup with a no more than a 4 1/2 in . spacer between the two mufflers. I need to modify the lower valiance to put the second outlet so it looks like it came from the factory. Jeff Cagle
so the trush hushpower is a turbo style muffler and the magnaflow is straight through, it would make less power because its more restrictive. it would have been a better compairison if they used the thrush welded chambered
Try glass packs, old school, straight through.
honestly I really want to see someone dyno a spintech compared to a straight through design.
Spintech has me intrigued but do I want baffles
I just want to see if it’s true I mean essentially their trying to creating a vacuum in the muffler using the curlicues to help exhaust scavenging and the guy that came up with it was an expert in thermodynamics so that why I am so curious and they sound amazing too
...maybe I missed it, he said the thrush was cheap and 3" but not what made it different? Looking online they appear to be "turbo" style mufflers with a perforated 2 pass and chambers at both ends. Seems like that was what made it drop power. I don't think cheap is the issue, you can get cheap straight through mufflers :)
Thanks for posting this, it was fun!
Yep, comparing a straight thru magnaflow to a triple pass thrush turbo GUARANTEED that the high buck muffler would win. Sure didnt want to lose magnaflow advertising.
How about comparing a cheap thrush three inch glasspack at tirty bucks against a giant triplepass magnaflow $200 muffler? (Cause they know the cheapass thrush would win!)
@Not Interested Well that's kind of like comparing apples, to oranges to cherries. Thrush and magnaflow have glasspacks should compare the two no matter the price difference. But Your right they compared two completely different type of mufflers.
What about a short exhaust. I am running ported manifolds facing foward. 468bbc 500 hp
I just got an "Ultra Flo" muffler from Dynomax, and it's a straight-through design, with a stainless steel shell.
What car and engine? I like Ultra Flo mufflers so I'm curious.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Laredo) with the 4.0L.
I got the whole cat-back kit.
@@revolutionday1 does it have deeper sound?
BTW I'm Jeep fan and I had WJ too.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar I just finished obsessively coating the whole thing in satin black, so I'm in the process of removing the rusted-up old system currently, and getting all the new kit put on.
I might post a few clips up, once everything is good to go.
Did you want how the different straight throughs produced different horse power.
easily the best is the Walker Super Turbo. quiet and powerful
How about an Exhaust Test for the 3.6 Pentastars Challengers and Chargers and 300m
I ould like to see this test with Walker Dynomax. They make great hp.
Super 40s/44s in fox for the win.
Newer Stangs... I like the borla attack sound.
I have a Crown Vic P71 2009 100k miles.
Which Flowmaster would be my best option for better performance without the Raspy sound?
Raspy belongs on the racetrack not on the street.
I like my borla ,2 in 2 out with built in x pipe.
id like to see what factory mufflers do like on the ford raptor or GMs 6.0 trucks and dodges gasser truck
Buy the biggest MagnaFlow mufflers that will fit with straight through exhaust, because these mufflers are the quietest, and then add vibrant industries resonators to the very rear of the exhaust pipes which knock out tons of sound and still flow through no baffling in the system, they will never hear you coming or going.
I'm looking for the rite muffler for my monte ss. I think I'm gonna go with the flowmaster 10 series
I would love to see a muffler test on a engine that makes over 1000hp specifically 1100-1500hp with 3.5"-5" mufflers
Myself also, but i would like to see 800-1500 hp Big Block Set-ups 3 1/2"-4" Exhaust Diameters.
You guys know Jones, Cherry Bomb, and Flomaster FX make the exact same stainless muffler with a straight threw design that are half the cost of a Magnaflow right? They all have the same part number even, with the exception of a extra number or letter, 1229
I feel like this is opening pandoras vox considering just mufflers. 8m thinking that inner volume will make a difference. If you want quiet it should be bigger ro get same numbers is my thought process. Intresting isn't it?
I’m not sure of the brand. but had a single inlet and two outlets on my 4.0 Ranger OMG did that sound sweet. with dual exhaust. :-)
Have you guys done this one yet
a polished head is less horsepower than a rough surfaced - this is what i hear from motor builders here in the northeast
I owned a Mustang and had a Flowmaster super 44 installed and then a Dynomax was installed like the ones used in Honda Civics. The sound was thick and the response of the engine increased. What about the Vibrant? My son uses it in his Honda and the sound is very good and he says it improves the response of the engine.
looking to buy a flowmaster super 44, also on a petrol engine. how was it? changed it because it wasn't good or just because you wanted another sound?
I had glass packs on my 95 vic. Car sounded great. On my 2011 vic I had borla s types. To those that say borla doesn't drone you're wrong lol. Car sounds good tho. On my 2020 mustang I have the corsa double H sport catback. Absolutely no drone and great sound. I'll be adding catted long tubes soon so it'll be a tad louder but not crazy loud like the extreme system.
And the high flow Cherry bomb see through muffler outdoes them all..
Test some cat backs.
I love my hks 5 inch now i wanna know
I only run flowmasters for the sound. I know they flow terrible. I use to switch off between Flowmaster original 40s and Bassani chambered mufflers and you can really feel a difference in torque with the bassanis opposed to the Flowmasters when I had my 03 mustang with x pipe
They just proved that's BS. Your "buttmeter" was wrong my friend.
@@AwesomeFinish who proved this??? These people? Depends on cats/ no cats. My car was definitely less tourqy with flowmasters. I still run them only for the sound
@@jamesa6272 Did you see any cats in this test? Every test was controlled with the exact same piping. Your cats would have the same power loss across the collection of mufflers. Cats don't magically make any of these mufflers perform better or worse. lol
As I recall from old David Vizard books, you need 2.2 CFM per horsepower, as it relates to exhaust flow, for a near zero loss system. It’s not rocket appliances
Need to re tune for each test too.
Which magnaflow is the second muffler shown
Can those headers fit a 98 tahoe with a 350 vortec ?
can you run exhaust + muffler ?
Which borla muffler is that and what’s the pipe inch
Bring back motor trend in Australia
I’m a fan of the Cherry Bomb Pro muffler. Flows great for a budget muffler.
I’ve always watched your videos and you helped me choose a 22 inch glasspack for my 95 350
@@ZayneMcDonald Hey babe
@@user-ss1uh7mb4x I’m sorry am I missing something
You getting some ideas for your next video 😅
@@ZayneMcDonald awesome!!
Why you no run fitech or Holley sniper on your tests??
Why not use the flowmaster 40 instead? Better yet the super 10.