Tomas T haha. If a normal human jumps and dives into the water with that velocity and accelaration he would get chopped off by water. Remeber water also has atoms tho losely packed but it has them.
Kier Miner you are mistaken, being able lift Thor’s hammer requires WORTHINESS not pure of heart. You must be seen worthy of ruling Asgard to lift the hammer, not exactly being pure of heart
He wasn't lifting the helicopter, only holding it back from taking off. And with all his might. The helicopter was handling its own weight cuz it was in the air. Cap can lift about 1500 lb.
@@wattycuffee5664 Who said he was lifting it? For the helicopter to go up, the required lift must exceed the weight, so it's a moot point. Like any superhero, they will be as strong as the plot needs them to be. There is no "Cap can lift x lbs." He's a fictional character.
Exhaustion and lactic acid build up are different though. One is not having enough energy to move on and the other is causing your muscles to ache. Somehow Cap seems to have endless stamina, because even after the "exhaustion" he just walks it off.
He does. In the avengers battle bit at the end of the first avengers movie. The only people who are showing extreme signs of tiring are black widow and cap... The super soldiers of the avengers. Thor offers his hand to cap who just takes a blast to his stomach. Thor says, ready for another bout? And cap says while *exhausted* and *fatigued* "why,u getting sleepy?"
I never imagined a day where there would be so many people, Team Cap. I remember a time when you would get funny looks at the comicbook shop for putting your stack of Cap and Avengers comics on the counter.. Fkin X-Men, X-Force, Spider-Man cool kids. Feige has done the impossible and brought a version of Cap that the O.G.'s approve 100% AND made 50 million new fans.
SiLeNt NiNjA Because 1) He's basically an overrated dude on steroids, who wears star-spangled pajamas, and throws a decorated trash can lid. 2) Captain America has the highest body count of deaths than the majority of MCU heroes; yet he doesn't acknowledge it, but when he does, he says it's in the name of justice.
damndisplace07 think you forgot his first movie, he's the kind of person who would defend you even if it means he'll get hurt. Nothing really proves he has a higher death count than Thor or Hulk, he always prioritizes civilians. Just the fact that he was willing to wear 'spangled pajamas' to help with the war efforts shows what a good person he is. You forget WHY he was chosen to get the serum in the first place and that he agreed even if it meant he could die in the process. ALSO THE FAKE GRENADE SCENE. Kinda sure if he were in Tony's ace at the end of New york's battle, he'd have sacrificed himself without a thought.
Destiny Dimension Agreed. I think the only reason he doesn't seem as strong in the first film is because he was just starting out and was still adjusting to his new abilities(not to mention he didn't have/know anywhere near as much fighting skills/martial arts as he does in the later films) ; but truthfully I'd say he was just as strong.
Robogeek28 Sounds a lot like Superman tugging a solar system on chains, holding up a book of infinite pages, holding the weight of the world on one hand for a week and only sweating a single drop of sweat, and then casually being get the crap out of him by weakened version of Doomsday... He's as strong as the plot (or writer) wants him to be.
Yes, that's bullcrap. Also, it's impossible to create a super-soldier serum in the 40s with crap technology and medicine and not be able to create it in the 21st century...
@@JoahTheThread5ive officially, 616 Captain America doesn't have superhuman stats, comic writers just suck at depicting that. He is just at the peak of what a human can achieve. His max bench is still listed as 800 lbs. Not superhuman.
When they started these movies, there were two Captain Americas in the comic books. The regular one was peak strength, able to lift 800lbs overhead with supreme effort. The ultimate one that was created in early 2000s, was superhuman. Now, most of what you see in Marvel movies is based on the Ultimate line of Marvel comics like black Nick Fury, Hawkeye, Scarlett Witch, and Spiderman.
Billy Barnett yeah I'm old enough to remember when captain was supposed to be "peak human level" like an Olympic athlete Same as batman but slightly better Now he's almost Spider-Man level apparently
natman2939 Just in terms of personal preference, I like the current version and I think it makes sense. After all, his superhuman serum that he took was highly sought after, and Bruce banner turned into the freaking hulk from a serum that was supposed to imitate it. The one problem I have with a lot of the physics of these feats like the truck kicking one and the motorcycle one is that they kind of ignore Newton's third law. I mean he should be flying backwards from his own kick. But that's just a problem with action/scifi movies in general, and I do understand why these policies exist
cashinowt he would only fly backwards if their is no countering force to reduce the knockback.. he has his foot on the ground and considering he is superhuman I'm guessing it is enough to counter the force
I like the mcu version The strength level in comic sometimes can be ridiculous and inconsistent In comic cap is often seen fighting robots and aliens being ‘peak human’ Mcu settings is much more believable He can push the limits of his serum as the serum of mcu is set to be fueled by the mentality of the user It makes more sense now seeing him as a superhuman
@@rayc3103 The ultimate version can lift 2 - 5 tons and more if he pushes himself. He's pretty much the strongest version of Captain America and the Mcu version is largely based off him
@potatosandwizard If you don't know thanos's strength, he's just as strong as hulk and hulk dented a vibranium wall, Lifted the Avengers tower and survived The finger Snap which puts him at continental durability. Can't wait to see your video
you forget one thing that when cap and spiderman were fighting cap manages to hold spiderman even spiderman is strong enough to hold 1000 tons with one arm.
+Mitch Fondleburg he did watch civil war when he was trying to get his shield spidey caught him both applied full force neither of them managed to pull each other and in one video he mentioned that spidey can lift over 1000 tons which means cap can also do that.
Preeeeeety sure by now the pretense of MCU Cap being just peak human is dropped and he's just straight up superhuman. Actually I'm not sure if the MCU ever directly states that he's only peak human. Comic Cap, sure, but MCU Cap, I don't recall. Also, isn't there a version of comic Cap who is straight up superhuman?
Yeah he's definitely super human. I think he may have been peak human during cap 1, and the Avengers but the Russos definitely made him super human. This is kinda like how Asgard was at first just a really advanced civilization using advanced Science, but later they decided to just explain them as literal Gods.
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I like to think cap is in peak physical condition with a 600% (at least) strength bonus from the serum, also top tier reflexes and extreme justice level
If you're making a top speed for the CW Reverse Flash keep in mind that he was able to switch his clothes while moving at super speed so that it seemed that there were 2 different people present instead of just one.
But, wasn't the Reverse Flash in the force field just a hologram created by Wells to fool everyone? I mean, how else would Cisco be able to see the recording of the Reverse Flash in the force field if he was doing it in real time with no help?
Captain America's atittude and the sense by which his brain works as seen in Civil war was awsum....his thoughts,his clarity of the situation and his physical strength is what i love about him...Plus his leadership qualities......he is the closest hero which can exist in real life.....otherwise all the MCU is totally fictional....Iron man does not exist,neither thor,hulk or any other hero.... but captain america is superhuman and if a human trains hard...he can reach quite a good percentage of captain's strength.....so he is the closest hero that can exist in real life....#bigfan
Black widow is the closest. Cap is definitely also in the fictional world. He can never get tired, sick, and has perfect memory. Not to mention 20 times the strength of an average man. The only thing comparable is his heart and willpower.
you are actually right about the last part.... with sheer dedicated, consistent training and the right meal environment and nutrition... present day human can achieve strength, speed and skills much much better than normal humans and become at least comparable to what Steve Rogers is. but in the past... not decades but centuries ago and thousands of years ago, when the environment was much healthier, resources were cleaner and life style was much healthier and people used to be far beyond physically active as present humans do and had much much better health and stamina.... it wouldn't be wrong to assume that the warriors at that time were equal or better than what captain america or black panther is I'm not talking about normal soldiers but exceptional warriors like the Pandavas, Kauravas, Baldau, etc in Mahabharata of Hinduism and similar other warrior legends in other cultures
Another ft u forgot is when cap and iron man were fighting in civil war and when iron flew to try and catch bucky, cap caught him, and considering that iron man is faster than a jet, so how strong would he have to be to retrain iron man
RDR Yeah, when he's pulling on his leg. Those are super fast reflexes, and he's pulling against the thrust, and then he punches the thing and breaks it!! He can do this all day!
Stephen scurlock This was probably mid-fight. Iron man was low on power, Cap was laid out, Bucky was climbing away for dear life. Bucky gets his arm ripped off ... again, but Cap and Iron Man keep at it. Don't forget Cap unleashes a flurry of attacks after all that nonsense and still kept fighting. So taking that into consideration, Captain America can outlast whatever power reactor Iron Man is using in his suit, and punch the suit and not break his hands. And walk away from the fight , AND , according to the MCU storyline, he was a good enough man to write Tony that letter. That is so warrior.
@@vibhorsharmax no he is not. In the 616 universe his top strength 2 to 3 tons. In the Ultimate Comics it's 5 tons. That is no where close to 50+ tons. So you are the one who needs to read comics.
late reply but here are the facts for people in denial. cap in the comics had to result in using an emp bomb to beat iron man. MCU cap didnt even need that, just needed bucky to distract him a brief second granted mcu iron man prioritized speed instead of durability. If you lined up comic iron man with mcu iron man, comic stark would have energy shielding by now lol
Lord dankquadd That was the regular version of Cap, the one from the movies is closer to his Ultimate Universe version of the character, an actual super human much stronger and faster than Batman.
I really think they had to up Steve's strength in the films because there are so many other strong individuals and Steve's other main "ability" is leadership(tactics and strategy) which, when you have to give everyone a chance to shine show how "awesome and intelligent" they are, cuts down on Roger's chances to show why that leadership ability is something special and in any case it isn't very flashy. Being able to hold a helicopter in place however IS damn impressive - everyone in the theatre was a little breathless with that. :D I also have a headcanon that the serum Erskine gave him actually evolves slightly based on the sort of threats he faces, nothing too big but maybe makes him able to become a little bit stronger and a little bit faster, neural connections, brain functions work a bit more efficiently etc, that sort of thing for the next time. After all "peak human" is that humans evolve. Maybe this could be the key that makes Erskine serum superior to the others. No. 1, they chose an excellent test subject in Steve Rogers, because he had just the right type of personality and characteristics to handle the changes and No. 2 Erskine's serum gives it's recipient the ability to slightly upgrade, so to speak, over time. Which makes perfect sense really for a super soldier serum, war evolves too, the soldier needs to be able to keep one step ahead or at least keep up.
GizziesGirl2 not really. Mcu is mainly based in ultimate universe comics where cap is even stronger and said to be more than peak human but superhuman.
I will say that the moment in Avengers 1 where he instructs the police, as well as him memorizing the map of the enemy positions in seconds in First Avenger both did a good job of showing his mental/tactical abilities. Also, if you really watch the fight between him and Spidey closely, he shows his tactical skill in how he defeats someone who is on paper so much further beyond him physically.
Trust me I love those moments but given how most of the films are set up unfortunately he's rarely really given a chance to showcase that in a major way. I mean the Airport fight in general I think showed Steve's superiority but unless someone is really thinking about it for the most part they are just seeing "ooh cool fight". Steve didn't know Spiderman would be there and yet he was smart enough to be prepared for needing to use Ant Man as a surprise tactic, he was smart enough to have Hawkeye stationed at a distance so he could get him out of a jam if they did something to physically restrain him - he had contingencies for types of issues even if he didn't know exactly what might cause them yet. If he hadn't Tony's team frankly had them "outgunned", it was the planning and his ability to pull a team together that they fought so well together and gelled so quickly, whereas Tony's team seemed a bit all over the place and were sort of doing what they wanted. Even the fight with Tony at the end showed it, right from the start of the fight, Steve started disabling, at every opportunity he could find, the Iron Man suit.
Jordan Astro lol in the comics his max strength is 1,200 pounds and Batman is 1,000 pounds who is considered peak human cap is peak human in the comics but in the mcu he is a superhuman
I agree. Batman has fought cap in a dc/marvel crossover and won. He is also peak human and is much more experienced in hand to hand combat. Not to mention Batman is a master of 127 styles of martial arts, master of stealth and a master tactician. Batman is just better in every way
Let me stop you right there. No. Just ... no. First, I'll touch on Cap's martial art's abilities. He ALSO knows every martial arts form known to man. ADDITIONALLY, he has created his own individual style which capitalizes on his super strength, super agility, super speed, and super reflexes. It's basically ... SUPER martial arts ... and that trumps Batman's mastery of normal martial arts. Regarding Batman being more experienced ... NO. Cap has actual wartime military experience and training, along with a career in super-heroics which is just as long as Batman's. Moving on... Marvel's definition of "peak human" isn't simply a human who can do the most push-ups a human can possibly do. It's talking about the pinnacle of all possible human evolution, far beyond what today's modern humans are capable of. Did you even watch the video? Does lifting the sort of weight Cap can lift sound like anything within the range of possible modern human capability? Obviously not. Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne is just a normal modern human. A very well trained normal modern human. Cap, on the other hand, has been enhanced, not only physically, but mentally as well. For example, in the moment he decides to throw his shield, he performs dozens of highly complicated mathematical equations to determine how hard he needs to throw it, and at what angle so that it can bounce off of multiple objects, many of which could be in motion themselves, and return to his hand at the end. He literally has an organic supercomputer brain. Regarding his strength, he's been depicted on multiple occasions breaking 1 inch steel chain with his bare hands. The working strength of the weakest grade of 1 inch steel chain is about 18K POUNDS. This means that if Cap is going to break that chain ... he has to be able to generate MORE THAN 18K Pounds of force. Does that sound remotely within the range of something batman could do? Obviously not. Cap's top running speed was calculated to be 60 miles per hour. Does that sound remotely humanly possible to you? Do you really think BATMAN can run at 60 mph? No, obviously not. FURTHER ... take a moment and think of the implications of a person who can run 60 mph. Athletes routinely break their ankles and shin bones while running at typical human running speeds (10 - 20 mph). Imagine how much stronger the bones, muscles, and connective tissue of a person's body must be to withstand an indefinite number of strikes to the ground moving at 60 mph! Try to comprehend the degree of physical coordination required to move your body that fast and not just trip and fall on your face. Imagine how fast your reflexes have to be to react to things in your path like uneven pavement, vehicles, other people. Cap's physical ability is an order of magnitude above that of Bruce Wayne. Now ... think again about how much tougher and stronger Cap has to be just to run without breaking every bone in his body. Now translate that toughness to combat. There is literally no punch or kick Bruce can deliver which is any serious threat to Cap ... and that's IF he could even land one because Cap is so much faster than Bruce. Bruce would basically be moving in slow motion to Cap. And, don't forget Cap's costume isn't spandex ... it's ARMOR. So, not only is Cap incredibly tough, but he's also wearing armor. Forget about it ... Batman isn't hurting him. A few more points to note: He has a vertical jump of about 20 feet. FAR beyond Bruce's ability. His reflexes and perception are so quick that he can literally see a super sonic bullet as it is fired and dodge it. Bruce can do some point of aim dodging, just keeping away from where the gun is pointed, but Bruce doesn't watch the bullet as it flies through the air and move out of its way. There is simply no contest. The only reason they let Batman win in the crossover (which is non-cannon) is "Because I'm Batman!". When you look at their actual physical and mental capabilities ... Cap simply outclasses Bruce in every way.
First of all ... thank you. I win. When you have no legitimate argument, you resort to insults and profanity ... so I win, right off the bat. That said. NO ... I'm not comparing the MCU Cap ... everything I've stated comes from the COMICS. "You're talking about the guy who took out the whole justice league" Batman was only able to take them out because he knows how to leverage all of their weaknesses against them, and took months to prepare plans to take them all out, then lured each of them into a trap. THIS IS NOT WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT. If you give just about ANYONE enough prep time and allow them to set a trap based on all the weaknesses of their opponent, of course they're going to win. But again ... THAT"S NOT WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT. I'm talking about a straight up fight where the two characters have a random encounter and fight each other with their regular walking around gear. COULD Batman win if he had a chance to set a trap for Cap? Of course he could ... but that's not a FIGHT ... that's a TRAP ... and I'm not talking about TRAPS ... I'm talking about FIGHTS. You keep telling ME to read some comics, but you're COMPLETELY ignorant of Cap's entire ability set. He's not just a guy with a shield who can do a cartwheel. Go back and read what I wrote before ... 100% of that stuff is COMIC BOOK derived. Not from the movies. Again ... thanks for letting me win the debate right out of the gate. I didn't really need the gimme, because I actually know what I'm talking about, but I appreciate the thought.
Steve isn't over powered and Thor isn't underpowered, they just unfortunately haven't allowed him to often show his strength - but he can take on Hulk with no damage, he can face fire and explosions with no damage, there was what he did on Jutonheim in the first Thor film. But when he's on earth they mostly have to have him holding back, because a)he'd be causing huge amounts of damage and b) so the other Avengers have something to do. :D (Though to be quite honest I've always wanted him to totally show up Tony Stark knowledge wise on something because let's face it Asgard is way advanced of any of this stuff here on earth, including what Tony Stark is doing, they probably teach that stuff in the equivalent of grade school, I like to think Thor is just humoring Tony by not showing how he'd be in remedial science classes on Asgard. LOL)
I like to think that theres something inside of him besides the serum that physically makes him strong. I believe people with bravery and will are physically stronger then others based on the fact that they wont give up no matter what.
That's about right. He's similar strength to spider man (Which i think was also about 20 or 25 tons in the 80's and 90's). He has reinforced armored skin etc though. I rather like luke cage. Not an over complex hero. Just a tough street wise thug who decided to help some people out.
I think ppl confuse how "strong" Cap is compared to how "strong" Batman is. Simply stated, Bats' physical prowess is at at peak human levels, meaning that he's on par w/ Olympic level athletes. However, Cap's physicality is suppose to be the pennacle of human perfection. With that having been said, Cap can actually outperform Olympic-level athletes in their respective fields. Basically Bats would be like an Olympic-level athlete in all given fields, whereas Cap functions like an Olympic-level athlete in all given fields, who uses steroids. This is reflected in several of Cap's feats, which often border between peakhuman to low-level superhuman. Batman's feats while amazing never approach even the lowest level of the "superhuman" rating (that's what makes what he does even more impressive). Cap has better vision than Batman. Cap's vision would be around 20/10 (the best a human can have), while Bats' would be 20/20 (perfect vision for a human). And let's not forget the Super Soldier Serum retards Cap's aging process to an unknown degree. With this being said, Cap would remain in tip-top physical condition longer, w/ less physical conditioning, even at an advanced age.
No, not really. It's just seems that way, because writers are inconsistent for sake of the plot. Bats isn't even as strong as Bane (sans his "venom"). And in a cross-over story back in the 90's, one of Bats' foes claimed that Dare Devil hits harder than "the bat" (which is ironic, considering Bats is more muscular than DD). I think it might've been perhaps Two-Face who stated this.....but don't quote me on that.
Blackton Obvious! batman is way over " olympic level " athletes lol you cant be serious, what olympic athlete can do all the things batman can do? none unless trained like the robins . batman is no ordinary hero . " Impressive No one has ever managed to avoid my omega beams " - Darkseid to batman . mind you Superman has gotten hit by them multiple times with super speed.
batmans intellect alone outwits captain america without any super serum needed , he can bench over 1000 pounds too no human has done that either , so batman is ahead of any kind of athlete , he's batman !
Stephen scurlock that goes for every comic character your point is .? batman has already proved himself in the dcu he's way too much for cap realistically on a one on one fight , batman's always ready for anyone
OMG!!!! Thank You!!! You caught a lot of things a lot of people missed. Cap is an absolute BADASS!! The super soldier serum definitely enhanced Steve to a low super human ability level and that is absolutely amazing!! Bravo sir bravo. Even the 616 Cap has displayed low super human abilities on multiple occasion's. There just almost to many feats to count for him. I love it and Cap is definitely my favorite and thank you again for this video!
Man you right. Cap is a badass. Didn’t a comic version of Cap cut a tank in half when he threw his shield at it? Oh, and not to mention CAP STOPPED A GRAB FROM THANOS! You know, the guy who OVERPOWERS THE HULK?!? Sorry, I just get mad excited when Cap is respected for what he is; A complete one man super army, and an even greater man.
A good way to think of it is this: Cap _started_ at what’s essentially peak estimated human potential, as his body was conditioned by the serum to be, but that didn’t put a cap on his capacity for growth, and Steve is a very physically active man working with forces well beyond even olympic capacity. Remember, this is a rate of growth observed for roughly a decade in-universe since he thawed.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
The Russo brothers have never worked with Thor(not yet), so how did the Russo brothers do anything to him? Also how is Thor weak ass? He's the only one who can take on the Hulk and suffer no damaging consequences, he took on Iron Man like he was nothing in Avengers. Thor is very careful though so he holds back a lot unless absolutely necessary.
GizziesGirl2 They mean that Thor from the MCU is weak compared to the comic book version of the character.Which is true.All powerful characters were in fact nerfed in the MCU while Bucky and Cap remained the same.Anyway if you look at the vsbattles wiki which has great calculations you will see that MCU Thor is shitty level while comic book has multiple feats that put his durability and attack potency at solar system levels.
Can we please be a little realistic and think about how that would NOT work as a main character in a film universe unless you wanted to make all the characters useless? It barely works in the comic books to be honest because clearly Thor is often not working to his full potential in them too. They most certainly have not made him "weak" though. He's clearly the most physically powerful(and he doesn't need to turn into a barely controllable green rage monster to do it), he's virtually indestructible, he split the ground open on Jotunheim, he can control weather. Thor is a very powerful character even by what we've seen. What I would say is that they've rather strictly rationed those instances where he's been shown to be that powerful though.
Tomáš Novický Yeah cause I searched online and it ranked him around 800 pounds max. Which isn't all that impressive. I guess they did away with the original 😂💀
A factor of penetrating iron man's suit was also the shield is made of vibranium which we know can pierce many things easily and it was the sharp end of the shield
Yeah! I think we could all agree that CW Deathstroke is way stronger than MCU Cap. But, of coarse, the Mirakuru formula makes all who survive into superhumans.
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Black Widow destroyed Ultron drones with a 9mm pistol. Considering that there are hundred to thousands of them, I doubt they're built using high-grade metals.
@Mickey G Yeah... the problem with that is that there are common, HIGHLY common, grades of steel (like AR500, which is a common TOOL STEEL) that can EASILY provide protection against something as weak as 9mm parabellum abd that Ultron could very easily get access to in that mill he was running in Sokovia. Heck, look at gun channel youtube videos where they test various metal body armors. 9mm parabellum doesn't do jack, and for some of these body armors, even common rifle calibers have trouble, so, yeah, Ultron's drones being weak to 9mm parabellum when there are civilian available body armors, not even hard armors, that can take that easily is just another oversight and shows that the Avengers movies are made by a bunch of art majors who even though they prefer street level heroes, can't even get street level basics right even when the villain is a little beyond the street level and should easily have materials on hand that can stop street level basics like 9mm.
Bec Banok but he would have still needed to apply a bunch of force to successfully cut through it, A normal human wouldn’t be able to cut through Tony’s armor even with peak human strength, You would need to be superhuman to do that. Example: If you had a titanium shield and tried to cut something very durable but not as strong as titanium, would it cut through the object? No! You can not apply enough force to do anything! The most you can do partially slice a small piece off.
Captain America is clearly superhuman in the MCU. Peak Human strength (800lbs which maximum straining effort) means CA is about 10 to 15% stronger than real life power lifter Mark Henry. CA greatest physical feats of strength are clearly far beyond what even immensely strong Olympian Mark Henry would be capable of even if he was twice as strong as he currently is. The WWII bike and girls CA was lifting casually was in excess than 800lbs, and CA was not even straining and the weight was not controlled weight. I estimate MCU Captain America can lift press about 10,000lbs.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
You forgot a moment where he saves natasha and takes the rubble of the bulding on his sheild with just one arm in winter soldier.He lifts heavy cement blocks with just one arm.
I don't know why they call cap peak human I meant bicep curling a helicopter and lifting 30+ tons is way beyond peak that is definitely. superhuman strength
@@Sid271 he slightly moved it yet pushed a bulldozer. This is why I'm displeased with how they did cap. Very big gap. Yes, I know he was injured but still thats a gigantic ass jump in strength
In MCU continuity the attempt to recreate the Super-Soldier syrum, *produced the Hulk*. That gives all the perspective you need on MCU Cap's strength level.
I think the shield itself probably helped with some of those feats, like piercing the Iron Man armor. I also think the beam in the helicarrier probably wasn't normal steel, but a lighter alloy, since most things that fly don't use normal steel in their construction.
You forgot that in the scene where cap saves Bucky by lifting that steel support in Winter Soldier, Cap has been pierced by Buckies knife, in the right beneath his shoulder. So this makes it even more impressive, and I think he was holding his shield too. And by now, everyone knows that Cap held back Thanos and even Thanos himself was surprised by Caps strength! Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet! I am a big fan of Cap by the way! :D :) Great video! Keep up the good work!
I would say cap get stronger, because the serum didnt just up his strength, it raise the starting point for which he could build even More strentgh, ofc he would need an EXTREME amount of weight to workout, but it has been shown that cap works out which is most likely why he's been getting even more strong.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
honestly given the unpredictable nature of super soldier serum it's entirely possible that for the remainder of Captain America's time in the MCU his strength could fluctuate wildly. Another thing to consider when he stopped a helicopter Not only was he resisting the lifting Force but he was also being buffeted bye the necessary rotor wash to make that possible.
this just doesn't say, oh he stopped this he strong man, comic actually goes deeper and calculates how strong he is exactly ,that why i'm binging his vids
In Civil War he kicked Tony's armored ass ( with his shield and Bucky's help...) and he nearly went berserk at the end of the fight, I wonder what would have happened if he had gone completely berserk fighting Spider-Man, of course, it was a short fight because he had no desire to hurt the kid but if he had gone completely berserk Peter Parker would have ended up in the hospital...And I really like Spider-Man...
Jeremy, Mohammad, you are not thinking of the kinetic energy that motorcycle had, say going at least 45 MPH through those woods. He had to contend with THAT and that weight of the bike. He had to take that horizontal momentum and direct it vertically to get it off of the ground and launch it forward.
To be honest I think 616 Cap should just be made Superhuman. He's Captain America. Why limit him to peak human abilities? Not to mention the fact that he got his abilities from a *super* serum. Obviously MCU Cap is superhuman. He kept a damn helicopter from flying away. With one damn arm lol
Dk Soulstice 616 cap pulled a helicopter out of the sky. That scene is somewhat based on what happened In the comics. Just happened a little differently. 616 Cap can push into those low super human realms. Which is amazing! Peak is amazing! People down play that a lot. Peak in every category is beyond what a normal person is capable of. No one has it all and no one can lift 1500 lbs over their heads and be lean enough to sprint 1 mile in like 2 minutes flat and be able to jump 15 to 20 feet in the air well timing bullet dodges and deflections. Plus regular humans are prone to exhaustion . Cap not so much. Im agreeing with you though 100%.
This is such an awesome video. Thanks for doing all the math and pulling out all these examples. Cap is my favorite Avenger and his MCU portrayal by Chris Evans is my favorite incarnation!
He's based off the ultimate Universe Cap, who does have super strength, and honestly, makes a lot more sense than the whole peak human argument, just the fact that he jumped out of a plane into the water and didn't shatter every single bone in his body means he's superhuman.
The issue I have is leverage. I've no problem with cap cutting into the iron man suit, for example, but he did it free mounting him. generating the force needed to do that would have flung his ass into the air long before enough energy was transferred to the suit via the shield. I've always thought that would.make super strength more interesting. having to find the leverage to apply it, like with the chopper scene. also how does this compare to his comic version? And this is "peak human" condition? so....we could supposedly ALL do that?
The whole Peak human thing is bullshit because for some reason marvel writers want captain America to be relatable for whatever reason but at the same time want him to do superhuman things that’s why even though he’s only defined as having the maximum potential of huma strength he’s able to cut a tank in half with his shield or run 60 miles per hour writers just can accept the fact that the hero they created is very clearly superhuman not peak human and if kinda pisses me off because it makes it feel like they don’t know what to do with character so to answer your question no we cannot possibly do anything that Captain America could
To us yes, but not in universe. The only serum I know of in the MCU that can make someone superhuman is anything outside of the SSS project, like Extremis and other versions or something supernatural. The coolest thing is the serum that does make superhumans still exist even after it's creator died in Iron Man 3, there was someone with it in Shang Chi.
People call cap “Peak human” because of spiderman. Spiderman’s feats completely blow cap out of the water, which is why cap pales in comparison. But on his own, his abilities are 100% super human.
people call Cap peak human cause that's literally what his power set is called by comics Peak human is this really silly vauge phrase which means Cap is like peak evolution human that can run twice as fast as Usain bolt cause that makes sense Z so yes, Cap is super human by any normal metric. (the Ultimate Verse version more so) but the comics still refer to him as peak human
Erskine developed the super soldier serum before Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for discovering the structure of DNA. This probably means that Erskine beat them to it but sacrificed the Nobel and the game and fortune that went with it for the sake of national security????
Well, the things he does with his shield, vibranium is a rare metal with weird properties. However, I wanted to know how strong he was when he opened the helicarrier door with his bare hands in the first Avengers movie back in 2012.
J Bell That was pretty cool. That can't be considered a physical strength feat though because of the enchantment on zee hamma. It can only be move by someone of honest pure good standing character. Almost infallible so to speak. Definitely a strength feat of pure will and character. Only a hand full have accomplished this task.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
That metal beam is NOT that heavy, I weld structural beam EVERY day, it's maximum 10 tons, you are calculating it like it's a solid block of metal, it's a beam, shaped like an H. Use an I-beam/H-Beam calculator instead, you'll get more accurate result. Still impressive tho haha.
And... That wasn't really made from normal metal as its S.H.I.E.L.D product. And... There could also be multiple things holding it down, Which would've increased its weight.
Jay Veeru Z force Of course it's a normal metal, and I didn't see anything holding it down. Besides, he only lifted up a portion of it, meaning that he was using leverage. Real life AVERAGE humans are able to do that exact same thing with SUVs and sedans. I'm able to lift up one of the ends of a 600 pound dresser without much difficulty, but it'd be insane to say that I can lift the whole thing.
@@djrocksgaming6255 That was a theory, But just like in the comics, S.H.I.E.L.D has things made with some of the toughest material. And anyway, The Beam reached all the way back to the screen, So we couldn't see what things were on it. Not to mention it was a H-shaped metal beam, So things could be clinging to the lower level of the beam.
I think you missed the single most startling example of Caps strength. He seems to be almost impenetrable as he skydives from a quinjet without a parachute. Frankly, the bullets shot at him later in the movie should never have penetrated his skin based on that.
Well gotta consider comic cap goes around knocking out the Rhino and fighting the hulk from time to time so he has a much larger category of impressive feats to choose from.
yeah true, but keep in mind in that very scene of deathlok pushing 58 tons is only pushing it, not lifting or carrying or even bench pressing in any sort, just simply push it, also that all of his earlier feats are almost nothing compared to peter, i know but only a couple of his feats are superhuman, we can't always take characters statements as true facts, simply MCU spider-man can hold 3,000 tons together, strength like that crushes cap. Cap's maximum lift here is 30+ tons, MCU spidey holds a jet bridge 30 tons as well but more newtons are caused making more force being placed on him and it wouldn't been like spider-man was carrying 80 tons. Cap was amazed by his strength, but wait till homecoming comes out
Deluxe_ Tron True, I'm still wondering how Spidey is holding that ship together, he isn't that strong, his arms should have been ripped off. Just like how AldoJones showed in his video.
because spider-man is pushing himself to limits he thought he couldn't reach, he even said it himself many times in the comics how he even questions himself , what is the proportional strength of a spider?, he always told himself he might even be more powerful than the strength of a spider. spider-man pulling it together, he's not just holding it, his bones are strong enough to keep in body together
MCU Cap is essentially a medium between 616 Cap (peak-human) and Ultimate Cap (Super-human) He's not as weak as 616, but he's also not as strong as Ultimate Cap. Though if you look at MCU Cap's feats and abilities, he DEFINITELY falls into the Ultimate Cap side of the spectrum.
Not a bad assessment but you need to reevaluate a few things, especially the fact about the Helicarrier. Any aircraft especially something as high-tech as a Helicarrier would be made of aluminum and titanium, not Steel. REMEMBER this thing is an aircraft. Yes of course, aluminum and titanium are heavy but not nearly as heavy as Steel. Period two, you use a program that showed a steel bar not an I-beam. I beams and steel bars are completely different. Point three, you didn't factor in the holes designed for increased structural strength and for lightness. The Harley Davidson that he held over his head was a mock-up of the 1940s Flathead Harley. It was using one of the Evolution motor,is which is made out of all aluminum. so the motorcycle was lighter than the estimate but not by much. If you noticed when you show the picture of just the motorcycle, you showed the WR, that was a flat head made of iron. Great job assessing the weight on the rest. However pulling the helicopter down he wasn't just pulling the weight of it down he was pulling against the force that was strong enough to lift that weight in the air. So the fact is the feat of holding the helicopter is probably one of the strongest feat you see him do. Remember his Shield is made out of a vibranium steel alloy, that's why the shield could damage Ultron when normal bullets from the quinjet couldn't. Great video thanks for sharing.
WarriorBoy It's a bit of both. Another good example is blocking Thor's jumping hammer strike; a normal shield would have completely been obliterated, followed by Cap's skull (lol), but Cap still needed to be able to withstand the force of the hit, instead of the force of the strike simply breaking the arm(s) holding the shield.
TheWickedwoodie You don't need effort to pull a weight down; gravity does that for you. What the video is saying is that after the up-thrust from the rotors cancels out the downward force of the weight, there is 3,000 pounds of resultant "lifting force" so this is the force he has to overcome.
One thing still bugs me about the whole "yank a helicopter out of the air" thing: Unless Bucky just didn't have sense enough to pull up the collective pitch lever, the bird should have flown off with Cap dangling off the skid... Or did Steve Rodgers suddenly weigh more than 3000 pounds? Once he was anchored to the building's rail, fine, but that initial leap, grab, drag down... shouldn't have worked. So, am I missing something here? ( Pushing the bulldozer wouldn't work either. You'd just push your feet and legs into the ground without some sort of very durable means of getting traction and leverage ) And yes, I know it's just a movie. Still, it should obey at least SOME of the laws of physics.
I like the fact that Captain America does not need a parachute
Too shy or too scared ?
Too busy
but only jumping into water...
that was busted by mythbusters :)
Tomas T haha. If a normal human jumps and dives into the water with that velocity and accelaration he would get chopped off by water. Remeber water also has atoms tho losely packed but it has them.
I think he's a bit suicidal.
You forgot to add the strength of Captain Americas pure heart. That is real strength my brother. Great vid.
True dat
@Kier Miner The hammer budged, but then cap just gave up, besides its not only pure of heart that matters
You cannot measure purity of heart or willpower,which he has tons of.
Kier Miner you are mistaken, being able lift Thor’s hammer requires WORTHINESS not pure of heart. You must be seen worthy of ruling Asgard to lift the hammer, not exactly being pure of heart
pure heart my azz! in the MCU, he was a selfish warfreak that doesnt want to be ordered around.
I would like to point out that Cap took down a 3,000 lb helicopter and still had perfect hair
And that is excluding the takeoff force, fuels and running fluids
Bucky weight, and the act that he did it with one arm.
He wasn't lifting the helicopter, only holding it back from taking off. And with all his might. The helicopter was handling its own weight cuz it was in the air. Cap can lift about 1500 lb.
@@wattycuffee5664 Who said he was lifting it?
For the helicopter to go up, the required lift must exceed the weight, so it's a moot point.
Like any superhero, they will be as strong as the plot needs them to be. There is no "Cap can lift x lbs." He's a fictional character.
And people say Master chief can beat him smh
Cap doesn't get exhausted. He doesn't build up lactic acid as a side effect of the serum.
Alex 650 He could do this all day long.
He builds just much much much slower
Exhaustion and lactic acid build up are different though.
One is not having enough energy to move on and the other is causing your muscles to ache. Somehow Cap seems to have endless stamina, because even after the "exhaustion" he just walks it off.
He does. In the avengers battle bit at the end of the first avengers movie. The only people who are showing extreme signs of tiring are black widow and cap... The super soldiers of the avengers. Thor offers his hand to cap who just takes a blast to his stomach. Thor says, ready for another bout? And cap says while *exhausted* and *fatigued* "why,u getting sleepy?"
True. I almost forgot about it. Nice man.
Captain America is actually my favorite superhero... XD. Why do people hate on him so much?
I never imagined a day where there would be so many people, Team Cap. I remember a time when you would get funny looks at the comicbook shop for putting your stack of Cap and Avengers comics on the counter.. Fkin X-Men, X-Force, Spider-Man cool kids. Feige has done the impossible and brought a version of Cap that the O.G.'s approve 100% AND made 50 million new fans.
Mine too
SiLeNt NiNjA Same
SiLeNt NiNjA Because 1) He's basically an overrated dude on steroids, who wears star-spangled pajamas, and throws a decorated trash can lid. 2) Captain America has the highest body count of deaths than the majority of MCU heroes; yet he doesn't acknowledge it, but when he does, he says it's in the name of justice.
damndisplace07 think you forgot his first movie, he's the kind of person who would defend you even if it means he'll get hurt. Nothing really proves he has a higher death count than Thor or Hulk, he always prioritizes civilians. Just the fact that he was willing to wear 'spangled pajamas' to help with the war efforts shows what a good person he is. You forget WHY he was chosen to get the serum in the first place and that he agreed even if it meant he could die in the process. ALSO THE FAKE GRENADE SCENE. Kinda sure if he were in Tony's ace at the end of New york's battle, he'd have sacrificed himself without a thought.
That scene from Agents of Shield is actually the reason why I looked up caps strength lol, thanks a ton for including it!
No problem 👍 Thanks for checking out the video!
He's as strong as the plot needs him to be apparently.
Robogeek28 lmao so true
Not really. Cap has always been super strong even back in First Avenger.
Destiny Dimension Agreed. I think the only reason he doesn't seem as strong in the first film is because he was just starting out and was still adjusting to his new abilities(not to mention he didn't have/know anywhere near as much fighting skills/martial arts as he does in the later films) ; but truthfully I'd say he was just as strong.
Robogeek28
Sounds a lot like Superman tugging a solar system on chains, holding up a book of infinite pages, holding the weight of the world on one hand for a week and only sweating a single drop of sweat, and then casually being get the crap out of him by weakened version of Doomsday...
He's as strong as the plot (or writer) wants him to be.
That's the case for pretty much all superheros. Especially the flash jesus christ.
And they say he is at peak physical human level not superhuman 😂😂😂
jaboy150 True...
Yes, that's bullcrap. Also, it's impossible to create a super-soldier serum in the 40s with crap technology and medicine and not be able to create it in the 21st century...
Μιχάλης Παναγιωτίδης Not necessarily, it's mainly just that they couldn't get the exact same serum, which is what they wanted.
I guess that Erskine was lucky then
the world's strongest man dragged a plane
Captain America is defiantly my favourite marvel heroes. Don’t care if he’s the weakest or strongest, I just admire his character so much ❤️
He is best Character Marvel have...
@justin amaya, Thor and hulk is just non existent
Definitely* from 2024 the fuuuuuturreeeeee
Thank you for confirming that MCU Captain America is essentially Ultimate Universe Captain America, who is undoubtedly superhuman.
616 Captain Americ is also superhuman and is closer to this version's personality.
@@JoahTheThread5ive officially, 616 Captain America doesn't have superhuman stats, comic writers just suck at depicting that. He is just at the peak of what a human can achieve. His max bench is still listed as 800 lbs. Not superhuman.
@@wiseguy01 He can lift way more than 800 pounds.
@@JoahTheThread5ive not according to any official Marvel source.
@@wiseguy01 According to feats and what happens in the comics it is wrong.
When they started these movies, there were two Captain Americas in the comic books. The regular one was peak strength, able to lift 800lbs overhead with supreme effort. The ultimate one that was created in early 2000s, was superhuman. Now, most of what you see in Marvel movies is based on the Ultimate line of Marvel comics like black Nick Fury, Hawkeye, Scarlett Witch, and Spiderman.
Billy Barnett yeah I'm old enough to remember when captain was supposed to be "peak human level" like an Olympic athlete
Same as batman but slightly better
Now he's almost Spider-Man level apparently
natman2939 Just in terms of personal preference, I like the current version and I think it makes sense. After all, his superhuman serum that he took was highly sought after, and Bruce banner turned into the freaking hulk from a serum that was supposed to imitate it.
The one problem I have with a lot of the physics of these feats like the truck kicking one and the motorcycle one is that they kind of ignore Newton's third law. I mean he should be flying backwards from his own kick. But that's just a problem with action/scifi movies in general, and I do understand why these policies exist
None of you have read a comic book. I can tell from your answers. Why do I even bother commenting on these videos.
cashinowt he would only fly backwards if their is no countering force to reduce the knockback.. he has his foot on the ground and considering he is superhuman I'm guessing it is enough to counter the force
I like the mcu version
The strength level in comic sometimes can be ridiculous and inconsistent
In comic cap is often seen fighting robots and aliens being ‘peak human’
Mcu settings is much more believable
He can push the limits of his serum as the serum of mcu is set to be fueled by the mentality of the user
It makes more sense now seeing him as a superhuman
No wonder he can stop Thanos' hand...HELL YEAH!!!
Incorrect... Watch the scene again and pay attention....
lol...
@ if he literally reaching for him slowly he doesn't need to show some strain in his face... U have to accept it 😏😏
1234 X Yep, Thanos was stunned by Cap’s demeanor, not his strength. Let’s not forget these scene was in slow-mo, and Thanos immediately one shot Cap.
Raul.Marin Thanos, the guy that’s physically stronger than Hulk and Thor, struggling against Cap.......ok.....
Captain America is about 10 to 20 times stronger than a Peak Human male would be. Clearly he is superhuman in the MCU.
That would put him in spiderman territory strength-wise, they definitely don't show him to be that strong in those movies.
He's actually 10x stronger than average human. His bench press maximum is 1,200 lbs., according to my Marvel encyclopaedia.
@@rayc3103 Mcu cap is many times stronger than comics version. Except for the ultimate version
@@Boba_Fett1980 How strong is he in Ultimate?
@@rayc3103 The ultimate version can lift 2 - 5 tons and more if he pushes himself. He's pretty much the strongest version of Captain America and the Mcu version is largely based off him
this video needs to be remade after endgame
Yes
@potatosandwizard If you don't know thanos's strength, he's just as strong as hulk and hulk dented a vibranium wall, Lifted the Avengers tower and survived The finger Snap which puts him at continental durability. Can't wait to see your video
Absolutely
Not really, base cap doesn’t have any new feats
@@roronoa3243 mjnoir
I love the way you compiled the strength index and the logical way you went about it. Wow, well done!
I was so super glad you considered that scene from AOS!!
Tecosaurus caps so strong
you forget one thing that when cap and spiderman were fighting cap manages to hold spiderman even spiderman is strong enough to hold 1000 tons with one arm.
Savita Gangwar at no point did Cap "Hold Spiderman"
+Mitch Fondleburg he did watch civil war when he was trying to get his shield spidey caught him both applied full force neither of them managed to pull each other and in one video he mentioned that spidey can lift over 1000 tons which means cap can also do that.
Savita Gangwar that was Spiderman holding Cap in place/away from his shield. Not Cap holding Spiderman.
Lol so he can throw a motor cycle like a foot ball but he's not superhuman ? Cmon 😂😂 that's bull
Preeeeeety sure by now the pretense of MCU Cap being just peak human is dropped and he's just straight up superhuman. Actually I'm not sure if the MCU ever directly states that he's only peak human. Comic Cap, sure, but MCU Cap, I don't recall. Also, isn't there a version of comic Cap who is straight up superhuman?
@@ShadeSlayer1911 yep. Ultimate.
Assuming he can lift almost 70 k pounds and push something that's over 100k, he's superhuman lol far far beyond just past the peak
Yeah he's definitely super human. I think he may have been peak human during cap 1, and the Avengers but the Russos definitely made him super human. This is kinda like how Asgard was at first just a really advanced civilization using advanced Science, but later they decided to just explain them as literal Gods.
ShadeSlayer1911 HE GOT THE SUPER SOLDIER SERUM WHY DOESNT ANYONE REMEMBER THAT??!!
And that is why people cap is my favourite avenger.
Suleiyman *And that is people, why cap is my favorite avenger.
Bonkio Lord stfu captain correct
Suleiyman my most fav
he s assho...
Cap is my favorite superhero, especially in IW. He looked so badass with the beard and the NOMAD suit.
you know what's so great about your videos? is that you research... not just any research but you do it like a thesis. with an abstract, scopes, methodology, data analysis, and conclusion.. props to you man
I like to think cap is in peak physical condition with a 600% (at least) strength bonus from the serum, also top tier reflexes and extreme justice level
Nine He's basically superhuman
If you're making a top speed for the CW Reverse Flash keep in mind that he was able to switch his clothes while moving at super speed so that it seemed that there were 2 different people present instead of just one.
But, wasn't the Reverse Flash in the force field just a hologram created by Wells to fool everyone? I mean, how else would Cisco be able to see the recording of the Reverse Flash in the force field if he was doing it in real time with no help?
1) He was even able to hurt himself. That's how fast he was going.
2) And he was going that fast that it only seemed that it was done in real time.
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Captain America never experiences fatigue or weariness. He can exert himself at peak level indefinitely.
Wrong.
That’s just not true. Watch the original avengers, watch the end of civil war. He definitely experiences fatigue.
He does get tired it just takes VASTLY more to do so.
Well, at least his comic book counterpart does, not sure about MCU though...
Khinwee Pang he does...
Dude I wish you uploaded this after endgame
Why
@@lukeskywalker2913 he lifted thors hammer (mjolnir) which needs to be worthy and weights about 200+ tons
Captain America's atittude and the sense by which his brain works as seen in Civil war was awsum....his thoughts,his clarity of the situation and his physical strength is what i love about him...Plus his leadership qualities......he is the closest hero which can exist in real life.....otherwise all the MCU is totally fictional....Iron man does not exist,neither thor,hulk or any other hero....
but captain america is superhuman and if a human trains hard...he can reach quite a good percentage of captain's strength.....so he is the closest hero that can exist in real life....#bigfan
Black widow is the closest. Cap is definitely also in the fictional world. He can never get tired, sick, and has perfect memory. Not to mention 20 times the strength of an average man. The only thing comparable is his heart and willpower.
#teamcap
you are actually right about the last part.... with sheer dedicated, consistent training and the right meal environment and nutrition... present day human can achieve strength, speed and skills much much better than normal humans and become at least comparable to what Steve Rogers is.
but in the past... not decades but centuries ago and thousands of years ago, when the environment was much healthier, resources were cleaner and life style was much healthier and people used to be far beyond physically active as present humans do and had much much better health and stamina.... it wouldn't be wrong to assume that the warriors at that time were equal or better than what captain america or black panther is
I'm not talking about normal soldiers but exceptional warriors like the Pandavas, Kauravas, Baldau, etc in Mahabharata of Hinduism and similar other warrior legends in other cultures
Another ft u forgot is when cap and iron man were fighting in civil war and when iron flew to try and catch bucky, cap caught him, and considering that iron man is faster than a jet, so how strong would he have to be to retrain iron man
RDR Yeah, when he's pulling on his leg. Those are super fast reflexes, and he's pulling against the thrust, and then he punches the thing and breaks it!!
He can do this all day!
exactly
RDR The thing is his suit wasn't at full power. Why don't people remember that? The suit barely had energy.
I haven't thought of that but still he stopped a flying iron man
Stephen scurlock This was probably mid-fight. Iron man was low on power, Cap was laid out, Bucky was climbing away for dear life.
Bucky gets his arm ripped off ... again, but Cap and Iron Man keep at it. Don't forget Cap unleashes a flurry of attacks after all that nonsense and still kept fighting.
So taking that into consideration, Captain America can outlast whatever power reactor Iron Man is using in his suit, and punch the suit and not break his hands.
And walk away from the fight , AND , according to the MCU storyline, he was a good enough man to write Tony that letter. That is so warrior.
Cap has to be this powerful. if he wasn't then people will say he is boring. so deal with it people you can't have it both ways.
Well actually he was always this much stronger go suck on comics u will get the point 😂😂😂
Yeah fuck you
vibhor knight7 Why are you two asshats ganging up on this guy when he’s stating facts.
Master Chief is nothing to captain america he's like Crossbones with a mech suit
@@vibhorsharmax no he is not. In the 616 universe his top strength 2 to 3 tons. In the Ultimate Comics it's 5 tons. That is no where close to 50+ tons. So you are the one who needs to read comics.
and they say that batman can beat this guy?!
he's more op in the movie than he is in the comics.
late reply but here are the facts for people in denial.
cap in the comics had to result in using an emp bomb to beat iron man. MCU cap didnt even need that, just needed bucky to distract him a brief second
granted mcu iron man prioritized speed instead of durability. If you lined up comic iron man with mcu iron man, comic stark would have energy shielding by now lol
Carlos Benzan get batman from Arkham knight. Whoops I mean bat tank
Carlos Benzan Movie Cap bears a strong resemblance to Ultimates-era Cap.
Lord dankquadd That was the regular version of Cap, the one from the movies is closer to his Ultimate Universe version of the character, an actual super human much stronger and faster than Batman.
Batman vs cap in a regular fight cap would win but if they had time and planned batman would outthink him and win in my opinion
I really think they had to up Steve's strength in the films because there are so many other strong individuals and Steve's other main "ability" is leadership(tactics and strategy) which, when you have to give everyone a chance to shine show how "awesome and intelligent" they are, cuts down on Roger's chances to show why that leadership ability is something special and in any case it isn't very flashy. Being able to hold a helicopter in place however IS damn impressive - everyone in the theatre was a little breathless with that. :D
I also have a headcanon that the serum Erskine gave him actually evolves slightly based on the sort of threats he faces, nothing too big but maybe makes him able to become a little bit stronger and a little bit faster, neural connections, brain functions work a bit more efficiently etc, that sort of thing for the next time.
After all "peak human" is that humans evolve. Maybe this could be the key that makes Erskine serum superior to the others. No. 1, they chose an excellent test subject in Steve Rogers, because he had just the right type of personality and characteristics to handle the changes and No. 2 Erskine's serum gives it's recipient the ability to slightly upgrade, so to speak, over time. Which makes perfect sense really for a super soldier serum, war evolves too, the soldier needs to be able to keep one step ahead or at least keep up.
I've been thinking that as well.
GizziesGirl2 not really. Mcu is mainly based in ultimate universe comics where cap is even stronger and said to be more than peak human but superhuman.
I will say that the moment in Avengers 1 where he instructs the police, as well as him memorizing the map of the enemy positions in seconds in First Avenger both did a good job of showing his mental/tactical abilities. Also, if you really watch the fight between him and Spidey closely, he shows his tactical skill in how he defeats someone who is on paper so much further beyond him physically.
Trust me I love those moments but given how most of the films are set up unfortunately he's rarely really given a chance to showcase that in a major way. I mean the Airport fight in general I think showed Steve's superiority but unless someone is really thinking about it for the most part they are just seeing "ooh cool fight".
Steve didn't know Spiderman would be there and yet he was smart enough to be prepared for needing to use Ant Man as a surprise tactic, he was smart enough to have Hawkeye stationed at a distance so he could get him out of a jam if they did something to physically restrain him - he had contingencies for types of issues even if he didn't know exactly what might cause them yet. If he hadn't Tony's team frankly had them "outgunned", it was the planning and his ability to pull a team together that they fought so well together and gelled so quickly, whereas Tony's team seemed a bit all over the place and were sort of doing what they wanted.
Even the fight with Tony at the end showed it, right from the start of the fight, Steve started disabling, at every opportunity he could find, the Iron Man suit.
This is basically the same problem Fox ran into when trying to put Scott Summers on screen. A task they utterly failed in, to include Xmen:A.
I still believe Captain America is a super soldier, and not peak human
You watched the video and still have doubts?
Not in the comics
Seno Budd what cap does is above and beyond what any peak human can do.
No shit. A peak human can’t throw motorcycles like they’re toys and stop a helicopter
Jordan Astro lol in the comics his max strength is 1,200 pounds and Batman is 1,000 pounds who is considered peak human cap is peak human in the comics but in the mcu he is a superhuman
cap could beat anyone with will power
Mason Wright why you always bring Spidey in this,I know his good
Madhavi Latha He would be a monster as a Green Lantern!
ya
Spiderman has more will power.
Ayal Zur untrue
i never liked captain america.....well that is until i saw MCU
571danu right? I always thought he was a boring guy, until I saw saw the movies, the winter soldier specifically
Lugit36 he's still kinda boring but they were great movies.
tfs fan 16 nope not in my opinion
Ultimate Cap is way better, in my opinion
Hydrogen One I heard he was an a hole in the ultimate universe
I LOVE Captain America!!! He is by far the GREATEST Super Hero of all time!!!! Long Live Captain America....
Cap would absolutely crush Batman in a 1 on 1. Just sayin'.
true
ZombieTex idk about that batman to smart
I agree. Batman has fought cap in a dc/marvel crossover and won. He is also peak human and is much more experienced in hand to hand combat. Not to mention Batman is a master of 127 styles of martial arts, master of stealth and a master tactician. Batman is just better in every way
Let me stop you right there. No. Just ... no.
First, I'll touch on Cap's martial art's abilities. He ALSO knows every martial arts form known to man. ADDITIONALLY, he has created his own individual style which capitalizes on his super strength, super agility, super speed, and super reflexes. It's basically ... SUPER martial arts ... and that trumps Batman's mastery of normal martial arts.
Regarding Batman being more experienced ... NO. Cap has actual wartime military experience and training, along with a career in super-heroics which is just as long as Batman's.
Moving on...
Marvel's definition of "peak human" isn't simply a human who can do the most push-ups a human can possibly do. It's talking about the pinnacle of all possible human evolution, far beyond what today's modern humans are capable of. Did you even watch the video? Does lifting the sort of weight Cap can lift sound like anything within the range of possible modern human capability? Obviously not. Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne is just a normal modern human. A very well trained normal modern human.
Cap, on the other hand, has been enhanced, not only physically, but mentally as well. For example, in the moment he decides to throw his shield, he performs dozens of highly complicated mathematical equations to determine how hard he needs to throw it, and at what angle so that it can bounce off of multiple objects, many of which could be in motion themselves, and return to his hand at the end. He literally has an organic supercomputer brain.
Regarding his strength, he's been depicted on multiple occasions breaking 1 inch steel chain with his bare hands. The working strength of the weakest grade of 1 inch steel chain is about 18K POUNDS. This means that if Cap is going to break that chain ... he has to be able to generate MORE THAN 18K Pounds of force. Does that sound remotely within the range of something batman could do? Obviously not.
Cap's top running speed was calculated to be 60 miles per hour. Does that sound remotely humanly possible to you? Do you really think BATMAN can run at 60 mph? No, obviously not. FURTHER ... take a moment and think of the implications of a person who can run 60 mph. Athletes routinely break their ankles and shin bones while running at typical human running speeds (10 - 20 mph). Imagine how much stronger the bones, muscles, and connective tissue of a person's body must be to withstand an indefinite number of strikes to the ground moving at 60 mph! Try to comprehend the degree of physical coordination required to move your body that fast and not just trip and fall on your face. Imagine how fast your reflexes have to be to react to things in your path like uneven pavement, vehicles, other people.
Cap's physical ability is an order of magnitude above that of Bruce Wayne.
Now ... think again about how much tougher and stronger Cap has to be just to run without breaking every bone in his body. Now translate that toughness to combat. There is literally no punch or kick Bruce can deliver which is any serious threat to Cap ... and that's IF he could even land one because Cap is so much faster than Bruce. Bruce would basically be moving in slow motion to Cap. And, don't forget Cap's costume isn't spandex ... it's ARMOR. So, not only is Cap incredibly tough, but he's also wearing armor. Forget about it ... Batman isn't hurting him.
A few more points to note:
He has a vertical jump of about 20 feet. FAR beyond Bruce's ability.
His reflexes and perception are so quick that he can literally see a super sonic bullet as it is fired and dodge it. Bruce can do some point of aim dodging, just keeping away from where the gun is pointed, but Bruce doesn't watch the bullet as it flies through the air and move out of its way.
There is simply no contest. The only reason they let Batman win in the crossover (which is non-cannon) is "Because I'm Batman!". When you look at their actual physical and mental capabilities ... Cap simply outclasses Bruce in every way.
First of all ... thank you. I win. When you have no legitimate argument, you resort to insults and profanity ... so I win, right off the bat.
That said. NO ... I'm not comparing the MCU Cap ... everything I've stated comes from the COMICS.
"You're talking about the guy who took out the whole justice league"
Batman was only able to take them out because he knows how to leverage all of their weaknesses against them, and took months to prepare plans to take them all out, then lured each of them into a trap. THIS IS NOT WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT. If you give just about ANYONE enough prep time and allow them to set a trap based on all the weaknesses of their opponent, of course they're going to win. But again ... THAT"S NOT WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT.
I'm talking about a straight up fight where the two characters have a random encounter and fight each other with their regular walking around gear.
COULD Batman win if he had a chance to set a trap for Cap? Of course he could ... but that's not a FIGHT ... that's a TRAP ... and I'm not talking about TRAPS ... I'm talking about FIGHTS.
You keep telling ME to read some comics, but you're COMPLETELY ignorant of Cap's entire ability set. He's not just a guy with a shield who can do a cartwheel. Go back and read what I wrote before ... 100% of that stuff is COMIC BOOK derived. Not from the movies.
Again ... thanks for letting me win the debate right out of the gate. I didn't really need the gimme, because I actually know what I'm talking about, but I appreciate the thought.
MCU Cap is overpowered while MCU Thor is underpowered😐
Yoda Matrix not overpowered but I agree that Thor is underpowered though
Steve isn't over powered and Thor isn't underpowered, they just unfortunately haven't allowed him to often show his strength - but he can take on Hulk with no damage, he can face fire and explosions with no damage, there was what he did on Jutonheim in the first Thor film.
But when he's on earth they mostly have to have him holding back, because a)he'd be causing huge amounts of damage and b) so the other Avengers have something to do. :D (Though to be quite honest I've always wanted him to totally show up Tony Stark knowledge wise on something because let's face it Asgard is way advanced of any of this stuff here on earth, including what Tony Stark is doing, they probably teach that stuff in the equivalent of grade school, I like to think Thor is just humoring Tony by not showing how he'd be in remedial science classes on Asgard. LOL)
Nah Cap is how he should be but thor is depowered
And that makes for more entertaining films.
Yoda Matrix i dont know hiw thor is underpowered when he dissolved an entire country of sokovia and pulverized in midair
I like to think that theres something inside of him besides the serum that physically makes him strong. I believe people with bravery and will are physically stronger then others based on the fact that they wont give up no matter what.
How strong is Luke Cage (not the skin) in the MCU!!!
javier castillo BBC level
javier castillo
In the live action show he could lift 25 tons.
That's about right. He's similar strength to spider man (Which i think was also about 20 or 25 tons in the 80's and 90's). He has reinforced armored skin etc though. I rather like luke cage. Not an over complex hero. Just a tough street wise thug who decided to help some people out.
skillet pan
Spider-Man can lift 10 tons and Luke is no thug.
Actually he used to be, before he got framed and stuff
I think ppl confuse how "strong" Cap is compared to how "strong" Batman is. Simply stated, Bats' physical prowess is at at peak human levels, meaning that he's on par w/ Olympic level athletes. However, Cap's physicality is suppose to be the pennacle of human perfection. With that having been said, Cap can actually outperform Olympic-level athletes in their respective fields.
Basically Bats would be like an Olympic-level athlete in all given fields, whereas Cap functions like an Olympic-level athlete in all given fields, who uses steroids.
This is reflected in several of Cap's feats, which often border between peakhuman to low-level superhuman. Batman's feats while amazing never approach even the lowest level of the "superhuman" rating (that's what makes what he does even more impressive).
Cap has better vision than Batman. Cap's vision would be around 20/10 (the best a human can have), while Bats' would be 20/20 (perfect vision for a human).
And let's not forget the Super Soldier Serum retards Cap's aging process to an unknown degree. With this being said, Cap would remain in tip-top physical condition longer, w/ less physical conditioning, even at an advanced age.
No, not really. It's just seems that way, because writers are inconsistent for sake of the plot.
Bats isn't even as strong as Bane (sans his "venom").
And in a cross-over story back in the 90's, one of Bats' foes claimed that Dare Devil hits harder than "the bat" (which is ironic, considering Bats is more muscular than DD). I think it might've been perhaps
Two-Face who stated this.....but don't quote me on that.
Blackton Obvious! batman is way over " olympic level " athletes lol you cant be serious, what olympic athlete can do all the things batman can do? none unless trained like the robins . batman is no ordinary hero . " Impressive No one has ever managed to avoid my omega beams " - Darkseid to batman . mind you Superman has gotten hit by them multiple times with super speed.
batmans intellect alone outwits captain america without any super serum needed , he can bench over 1000 pounds too no human has done that either , so batman is ahead of any kind of athlete , he's batman !
Jayke Batman is as strong as the writer wants him to be.
Stephen scurlock that goes for every comic character your point is .? batman has already proved himself in the dcu he's way too much for cap realistically on a one on one fight , batman's always ready for anyone
of course batman is strong but not cap strong i wouldn't consider cap normal batman wouldn't stop helicopter batman is simply world greatest detective
Med Bukenya he has the wolrd greatest plot armor
Batman wishes he could suck Cap's diiiiiick.
Charles Burrows still not on Caps level
@Charles Burrows stop not one cap level of strength
@Charles Burrows still not on cap's level.
I am truly impressed with the collection of info and grateful for the calculations provided. 👌
OMG!!!! Thank You!!! You caught a lot of things a lot of people missed. Cap is an absolute BADASS!! The super soldier serum definitely enhanced Steve to a low super human ability level and that is absolutely amazing!! Bravo sir bravo. Even the 616 Cap has displayed low super human abilities on multiple occasion's. There just almost to many feats to count for him. I love it and Cap is definitely my favorite and thank you again for this video!
Man you right. Cap is a badass. Didn’t a comic version of Cap cut a tank in half when he threw his shield at it? Oh, and not to mention CAP STOPPED A GRAB FROM THANOS! You know, the guy who OVERPOWERS THE HULK?!? Sorry, I just get mad excited when Cap is respected for what he is; A complete one man super army, and an even greater man.
A good way to think of it is this: Cap _started_ at what’s essentially peak estimated human potential, as his body was conditioned by the serum to be, but that didn’t put a cap on his capacity for growth, and Steve is a very physically active man working with forces well beyond even olympic capacity. Remember, this is a rate of growth observed for roughly a decade in-universe since he thawed.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
The Russo bros made him OP ass fuck !!!
Hi Dad Good, how else will he stand up to Iron Man or even Thor or Hulk?
The Russo brothers have never worked with Thor(not yet), so how did the Russo brothers do anything to him? Also how is Thor weak ass? He's the only one who can take on the Hulk and suffer no damaging consequences, he took on Iron Man like he was nothing in Avengers. Thor is very careful though so he holds back a lot unless absolutely necessary.
GizziesGirl2 They mean that Thor from the MCU is weak compared to the comic book version of the character.Which is true.All powerful characters were in fact nerfed in the MCU while Bucky and Cap remained the same.Anyway if you look at the vsbattles wiki which has great calculations you will see that MCU Thor is shitty level while comic book has multiple feats that put his durability and attack potency at solar system levels.
Can we please be a little realistic and think about how that would NOT work as a main character in a film universe unless you wanted to make all the characters useless? It barely works in the comic books to be honest because clearly Thor is often not working to his full potential in them too. They most certainly have not made him "weak" though. He's clearly the most physically powerful(and he doesn't need to turn into a barely controllable green rage monster to do it), he's virtually indestructible, he split the ground open on Jotunheim, he can control weather. Thor is a very powerful character even by what we've seen. What I would say is that they've rather strictly rationed those instances where he's been shown to be that powerful though.
Not really. Cap has a few impressive feats that come before Winter Soldier.
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Exactly how much the script demands him to be.
Tomáš Novický stupid fuck
You are fucking stupid
Tomáš Novický Lol
Tomáš Novický
Yeah cause I searched online and it ranked him around 800 pounds max.
Which isn't all that impressive.
I guess they did away with the original 😂💀
Haha or the writers
A factor of penetrating iron man's suit was also the shield is made of vibranium which we know can pierce many things easily and it was the sharp end of the shield
Do a how strong is cw deathstroke
Yeah! I think we could all agree that CW Deathstroke is way stronger than MCU Cap. But, of coarse, the Mirakuru formula makes all who survive into superhumans.
Impressive video! This is why Cap is the best #TeamCap
Steven Mazey you mean because his soul...
Holding back thanos was his most impressive feat yet! Thats what’s literally my favorite part of the movie
so in essence, captain America can whip batman's ASS.
This Cap is basically deathstroke. He'll literally rape any version of movie Batman.
Taylor Williams yeahhhhhhh, i tend to agree!!
Blazed66 Pretty much, yeah.
Yep
@@MrREAPERsz yeah
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Now add the scene where he was able to resist Thanos' hand from crushing him or whatever Thanos was gonna do with 5 infinity stones on the gauntlet.
He didn’t
avengers age of ultron:when cap trew his shield tro a iron ligeon droid#android out complete titanium in half 'damn'
Dors Serano I HIGHLY doubt that they are made out of titanium, otherwise, QS couldn't punch them into pieces...
Quicksilver punched Ultron drones to pieces, not Iron Legion drones.
Black Widow destroyed Ultron drones with a 9mm pistol. Considering that there are hundred to thousands of them, I doubt they're built using high-grade metals.
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Yeah... the problem with that is that there are common, HIGHLY common, grades of steel (like AR500, which is a common TOOL STEEL) that can EASILY provide protection against something as weak as 9mm parabellum abd that Ultron could very easily get access to in that mill he was running in Sokovia. Heck, look at gun channel youtube videos where they test various metal body armors. 9mm parabellum doesn't do jack, and for some of these body armors, even common rifle calibers have trouble, so, yeah, Ultron's drones being weak to 9mm parabellum when there are civilian available body armors, not even hard armors, that can take that easily is just another oversight and shows that the Avengers movies are made by a bunch of art majors who even though they prefer street level heroes, can't even get street level basics right even when the villain is a little beyond the street level and should easily have materials on hand that can stop street level basics like 9mm.
Dors Serano what did I just read?
avengers opened my eyes, captain America is no fucking joke lol.
Thank you so much for including that clip from agents of shield. It's my favorite show and I love the moments when they talk about the avengers
when you talked about cap piercing Tony's suit you forgot to take into account the fact that the shield that he used is made out of Vibranium
Bec Banok but he would have still needed to apply a bunch of force to successfully cut through it, A normal human wouldn’t be able to cut through Tony’s armor even with peak human strength, You would need to be superhuman to do that. Example: If you had a titanium shield and tried to cut something very durable but not as strong as titanium, would it cut through the object? No! You can not apply enough force to do anything! The most you can do partially slice a small piece off.
Simply can you cut gold with steal knife you cant
Captain America is clearly superhuman in the MCU. Peak Human strength (800lbs which maximum straining effort) means CA is about 10 to 15% stronger than real life power lifter Mark Henry. CA greatest physical feats of strength are clearly far beyond what even immensely strong Olympian Mark Henry would be capable of even if he was twice as strong as he currently is. The WWII bike and girls CA was lifting casually was in excess than 800lbs, and CA was not even straining and the weight was not controlled weight. I estimate MCU Captain America can lift press about 10,000lbs.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
You forgot a moment where he saves natasha and takes the rubble of the bulding on his sheild with just one arm in winter soldier.He lifts heavy cement blocks with just one arm.
Smash the like button like if you were Hulk!
Doomsday _TheHeroKiller You comment has no likes,I will fix this anomaly.
I don't know why they call cap peak human I meant bicep curling a helicopter and lifting 30+ tons is way beyond peak that is definitely.
superhuman strength
chalk that down to writers don't understand measurements, whether it be weight or velocity
He didn't lift 30 ton. There is no way he can lift 30 ton even if he is a super human
@@Sid271 he slightly moved it yet pushed a bulldozer. This is why I'm displeased with how they did cap. Very big gap. Yes, I know he was injured but still thats a gigantic ass jump in strength
In MCU continuity the attempt to recreate the Super-Soldier syrum, *produced the Hulk*. That gives all the perspective you need on MCU Cap's strength level.
Captain America could probably bike up Everest
If the bike doesn't break
@@okaybutwhythough7456 yes
cap would beat the crap outta batman
James456 Mason Close fight.
Uto Resa 519 Not really, Cap would DESTROY 😂😂😂
It would not be a close fight, in the comics Cap hardly ever loses fight even when he is not in his own comics
Like Deathbattle says. Batman Cheats...
They have had crossover comics and batman has won so.......
I think the shield itself probably helped with some of those feats, like piercing the Iron Man armor. I also think the beam in the helicarrier probably wasn't normal steel, but a lighter alloy, since most things that fly don't use normal steel in their construction.
yeah ok, but what can he bench, squat and deadlift?
the gym would need new barrels
jason sheedy lift mjolnir and stormbreaker lollll
jason sheedy he’s 5x stronger than Larry wheels
Easily a 5 ton truck with decent effort
He lift 1,100 pounds lol
He can:
Hit 64 tons of force
Lift 34 tons
Push 58 tons
Without considering his other athletic traits, durability, and skill
Bro 34 tons no
Its much
@@juanmayta7122 wut
Lifting 34 tons is just an assumption. Not officially confirmed
First time I've seen your channel. Great video. I loved the fact based assessments of cap.
You forgot that in the scene where cap saves Bucky by lifting that steel support in Winter Soldier, Cap has been pierced by Buckies knife, in the right beneath his shoulder.
So this makes it even more impressive, and I think he was holding his shield too.
And by now, everyone knows that Cap held back Thanos and even Thanos himself was surprised by Caps strength! Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet!
I am a big fan of Cap by the way! :D :)
Great video! Keep up the good work!
I would say cap get stronger, because the serum didnt just up his strength, it raise the starting point for which he could build even More strentgh, ofc he would need an EXTREME amount of weight to workout, but it has been shown that cap works out which is most likely why he's been getting even more strong.
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
honestly given the unpredictable nature of super soldier serum it's entirely possible that for the remainder of Captain America's time in the MCU his strength could fluctuate wildly. Another thing to consider when he stopped a helicopter Not only was he resisting the lifting Force but he was also being buffeted bye the necessary rotor wash to make that possible.
Problem with the calculation of the steel beam. He's lifting an I-beam, but I think you calculated for a prism. Correct me if I'm wrong
this just doesn't say, oh he stopped this he strong man, comic actually goes deeper and calculates how strong he is exactly ,that why i'm binging his vids
In Civil War he kicked Tony's armored ass ( with his shield and Bucky's help...) and he nearly went berserk at the end of the fight, I wonder what would have happened if he had gone completely berserk fighting Spider-Man, of course, it was a short fight because he had no desire to hurt the kid but if he had gone completely berserk Peter Parker would have ended up in the hospital...And I really like Spider-Man...
He is much stronger than what most people think.
HOWEVER YOU MISSED ONE THING. ITS CALLED PHYSICS. dragging something or lifting something at an angle is not same as lifting it straight.
Sahashranshu Maurya yes i agree. He should have calculated the work he did then calculate chinetic energy then finaly the force required to do it.
yes
Yep, like when he tossed the motorcycle using momentum it wasn't all raw strength
Jeremy Whitfield you did notice that he LIFTED the bike as well? Horizontal momentum doesn't affect vertical momentum.
Jeremy, Mohammad, you are not thinking of the kinetic energy that motorcycle had, say going at least 45 MPH through those woods. He had to contend with THAT and that weight of the bike. He had to take that horizontal momentum and direct it vertically to get it off of the ground and launch it forward.
Mann! Didn't know he was that strong. Great video
And now of course, you can add that even Thanos seemed impressed when Cap held back his hand in Infinity War.
To be honest I think 616 Cap should just be made Superhuman. He's Captain America. Why limit him to peak human abilities? Not to mention the fact that he got his abilities from a *super* serum.
Obviously MCU Cap is superhuman. He kept a damn helicopter from flying away. With one damn arm lol
Dk Soulstice 616 cap pulled a helicopter out of the sky. That scene is somewhat based on what happened In the comics. Just happened a little differently. 616 Cap can push into those low super human realms. Which is amazing! Peak is amazing! People down play that a lot. Peak in every category is beyond what a normal person is capable of. No one has it all and no one can lift 1500 lbs over their heads and be lean enough to sprint 1 mile in like 2 minutes flat and be able to jump 15 to 20 feet in the air well timing bullet dodges and deflections. Plus regular humans are prone to exhaustion . Cap not so much. Im agreeing with you though 100%.
Dk Soulstice I agree with you. I think marvel should make 616 cap as strong as the mcu cap.
616 cap didn't pull one down or else he body weight would be throw off. What happened he gave a quick sudden pull that knocked the pilots.
This is such an awesome video. Thanks for doing all the math and pulling out all these examples. Cap is my favorite Avenger and his MCU portrayal by Chris Evans is my favorite incarnation!
His greatest strength shown on screen was when he held Thanos arm up. That right there was probably his maximum strength up to this point.
Imagine if cap throw a fastball in a baseball game that bat is done for
He's based off the ultimate Universe Cap, who does have super strength, and honestly, makes a lot more sense than the whole peak human argument, just the fact that he jumped out of a plane into the water and didn't shatter every single bone in his body means he's superhuman.
7:01 Cap doesn't get exhausted
The issue I have is leverage.
I've no problem with cap cutting into the iron man suit, for example, but he did it free mounting him. generating the force needed to do that would have flung his ass into the air long before enough energy was transferred to the suit via the shield.
I've always thought that would.make super strength more interesting. having to find the leverage to apply it, like with the chopper scene.
also how does this compare to his comic version?
And this is "peak human" condition?
so....we could supposedly ALL do that?
The whole Peak human thing is bullshit because for some reason marvel writers want captain America to be relatable for whatever reason but at the same time want him to do superhuman things that’s why even though he’s only defined as having the maximum potential of huma strength he’s able to cut a tank in half with his shield or run 60 miles per hour writers just can accept the fact that the hero they created is very clearly superhuman not peak human and if kinda pisses me off because it makes it feel like they don’t know what to do with character so to answer your question no we cannot possibly do anything that Captain America could
Dude your knowledge on heroes and villains is awesome man #comicsforever
Mcu cap is most definitely superhuman
To us yes, but not in universe. The only serum I know of in the MCU that can make someone superhuman is anything outside of the SSS project, like Extremis and other versions or something supernatural.
The coolest thing is the serum that does make superhumans still exist even after it's creator died in Iron Man 3, there was someone with it in Shang Chi.
What about how strong he has to be to lug around those balls of steel?
aneTix is hahahah off the charts bro!
People call cap “Peak human” because of spiderman.
Spiderman’s feats completely blow cap out of the water, which is why cap pales in comparison. But on his own, his abilities are 100% super human.
people call Cap peak human cause that's literally what his power set is called by comics
Peak human is this really silly vauge phrase which means Cap is like peak evolution human that can run twice as fast as Usain bolt cause that makes sense Z
so yes, Cap is super human by any normal metric. (the Ultimate Verse version more so)
but the comics still refer to him as peak human
Mcu captain America is a superhuman
Erskine developed the super soldier serum before Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for discovering the structure of DNA. This probably means that Erskine beat them to it but sacrificed the Nobel and the game and fortune that went with it for the sake of national security????
Serum doesnt enhance hi genetically
I love captain America....💖💖💖
Well, the things he does with his shield, vibranium is a rare metal with weird properties. However, I wanted to know how strong he was when he opened the helicarrier door with his bare hands in the first Avengers movie back in 2012.
Captain America has some impressive abilities but ultimately His greatest Super Power is His Heart.
The Heart of a Lion.
how about when he moved thors hammer
J Bell That was pretty cool. That can't be considered a physical strength feat though because of the enchantment on zee hamma. It can only be move by someone of honest pure good standing character. Almost infallible so to speak. Definitely a strength feat of pure will and character. Only a hand full have accomplished this task.
Not a strength feat
If Mjolnir were not enchanted, I could lift it, with some effort.
Hulk Lifted It
Mark21 Lopez Hulk has never lifted Thor's hammer. MCU or 616.
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I do believe the correct diagnosis is that cap is superhuman or "enhanced" as they have said in age of ultron and civil war 👍👍
He is definitely out of the range of peak human he ran 13 miles in 30 minutes without trying and no sweat with sam no human can run 2:30 mile let alone 13 back to back with no sweat or sign of exhaustion
That metal beam is NOT that heavy, I weld structural beam EVERY day, it's maximum 10 tons, you are calculating it like it's a solid block of metal, it's a beam, shaped like an H. Use an I-beam/H-Beam calculator instead, you'll get more accurate result. Still impressive tho haha.
And... That wasn't really made from normal metal as its S.H.I.E.L.D product. And... There could also be multiple things holding it down, Which would've increased its weight.
Jay Veeru Z force Of course it's a normal metal, and I didn't see anything holding it down. Besides, he only lifted up a portion of it, meaning that he was using leverage.
Real life AVERAGE humans are able to do that exact same thing with SUVs and sedans. I'm able to lift up one of the ends of a 600 pound dresser without much difficulty, but it'd be insane to say that I can lift the whole thing.
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That was a theory, But just like in the comics, S.H.I.E.L.D has things made with some of the toughest material.
And anyway, The Beam reached all the way back to the screen, So we couldn't see what things were on it. Not to mention it was a H-shaped metal beam, So things could be clinging to the lower level of the beam.
I think you missed the single most startling example of Caps strength. He seems to be almost impenetrable as he skydives from a quinjet without a parachute. Frankly, the bullets shot at him later in the movie should never have penetrated his skin based on that.
so is he stronger than the captain America from the comics
vincent 22 Yep.
Well gotta consider comic cap goes around knocking out the Rhino and fighting the hulk from time to time so he has a much larger category of impressive feats to choose from.
Thrown is an exaggeration and fighting namor is an outiler, never mind he probably held back.
Welp, it's Official, he has more then enough strength to take on Spider-Man...
yeah true, but keep in mind in that very scene of deathlok pushing 58 tons is only pushing it, not lifting or carrying or even bench pressing in any sort, just simply push it, also that all of his earlier feats are almost nothing compared to peter, i know but only a couple of his feats are superhuman, we can't always take characters statements as true facts, simply MCU spider-man can hold 3,000 tons together, strength like that crushes cap. Cap's maximum lift here is 30+ tons, MCU spidey holds a jet bridge 30 tons as well but more newtons are caused making more force being placed on him and it wouldn't been like spider-man was carrying 80 tons. Cap was amazed by his strength, but wait till homecoming comes out
maxdrags3 no spiderman is still stronger. he was able to control buckys metal arm with ease
Ven Em When did I say that Cap was stronger you idiot?
Deluxe_ Tron True, I'm still wondering how Spidey is holding that ship together, he isn't that strong, his arms should have been ripped off.
Just like how AldoJones showed in his video.
because spider-man is pushing himself to limits he thought he couldn't reach, he even said it himself many times in the comics how he even questions himself , what is the proportional strength of a spider?, he always told himself he might even be more powerful than the strength of a spider. spider-man pulling it together, he's not just holding it, his bones are strong enough to keep in body together
MCU Cap is essentially a medium between 616 Cap (peak-human) and Ultimate Cap (Super-human)
He's not as weak as 616, but he's also not as strong as Ultimate Cap. Though if you look at MCU Cap's feats and abilities, he DEFINITELY falls into the Ultimate Cap side of the spectrum.
Not a bad assessment but you need to reevaluate a few things, especially the fact about the Helicarrier. Any aircraft especially something as high-tech as a Helicarrier would be made of aluminum and titanium, not Steel. REMEMBER this thing is an aircraft. Yes of course, aluminum and titanium are heavy but not nearly as heavy as Steel. Period two, you use a program that showed a steel bar not an I-beam. I beams and steel bars are completely different. Point three, you didn't factor in the holes designed for increased structural strength and for lightness. The Harley Davidson that he held over his head was a mock-up of the 1940s Flathead Harley. It was using one of the Evolution motor,is which is made out of all aluminum. so the motorcycle was lighter than the estimate but not by much. If you noticed when you show the picture of just the motorcycle, you showed the WR, that was a flat head made of iron. Great job assessing the weight on the rest. However pulling the helicopter down he wasn't just pulling the weight of it down he was pulling against the force that was strong enough to lift that weight in the air. So the fact is the feat of holding the helicopter is probably one of the strongest feat you see him do. Remember his Shield is made out of a vibranium steel alloy, that's why the shield could damage Ultron when normal bullets from the quinjet couldn't. Great video thanks for sharing.
I also think that him being able to dent Tony's armor is much more due in part to the shield, and not his own strength.
WarriorBoy It's a bit of both. Another good example is blocking Thor's jumping hammer strike; a normal shield would have completely been obliterated, followed by Cap's skull (lol), but Cap still needed to be able to withstand the force of the hit, instead of the force of the strike simply breaking the arm(s) holding the shield.
TheWickedwoodie You don't need effort to pull a weight down; gravity does that for you. What the video is saying is that after the up-thrust from the rotors cancels out the downward force of the weight, there is 3,000 pounds of resultant "lifting force" so this is the force he has to overcome.
One thing still bugs me about the whole "yank a helicopter out of the air" thing:
Unless Bucky just didn't have sense enough to pull up the collective pitch lever, the bird should have flown off with Cap dangling off the skid... Or did Steve Rodgers suddenly weigh more than 3000 pounds? Once he was anchored to the building's rail, fine, but that initial leap, grab, drag down... shouldn't have worked.
So, am I missing something here?
( Pushing the bulldozer wouldn't work either. You'd just push your feet and legs into the ground without some sort of very durable means of getting traction and leverage )
And yes, I know it's just a movie. Still, it should obey at least SOME of the laws of physics.
Guard Dog The MCU clearly has its own laws of physics. Dr. Strange can use magic after all. Constructing Iron Man's suit is impossible in real life.