Ultron has already been shown to be one of, if not THE, most dangerous enemies in all of Marvel Comics. The Ultron we got in AoU was nothing compared to his comic counterpart, who has actually wielded the Infinity Gauntlet multiple times, and once assimilated an entire techno-organic race in order to conquer the entire Kree Empire in less than a week.
Another thing is none of the Villains care about civilians, or collateral damage, so they would b dropping houses, skyscrapers on Thanos and would be trying to kill him instead of just stopping him like most Avengers tries to do.
If there's a way the villains can interest Dormammu into fighting with them, he just solostomps Thanos since Thanos doesn't have the time stone yet. If he doesn't fight with them Hella, Ego and ultron can just take him down without anyone else.
Even if Thanos had the Time Stone he couldn't defeat Dormammu, Dr. Strange didn't he just annoyed him and made a bargain. Dormammu is in a separate dimension (outside of time).
I’d think Hela alone could stand her ground against Thanos... I mean Thor literally found that it would be easier to destroy his own planet, than try to beat her
I think the point of Thanos’ timing of his push were that beings like Ego, Hela, Odin, and the Ancient One were already gone. You’d have to exclude them because they would likely intervene if they were alive in the main story.
Not to mention that if we're including Ultron, we have to add that Ultron was going to kill all humans. That effectively makes him mutually exclusive with other Earth villains. That said, none of the earth villains were too special they couldn't be replicated by a particularly specialized drone.
Also there were a lot of villains left out of the discussion like Apocalypse, Red Hulk, Juggernaut, Mister Sinister, Venom, Magneto ect. I could see Apocalypse and his 4 horsemen being a challenge on their own, especially if they are at the level of when he had Hulk as War. Lets say Apocalypse has Red Hulk, Lady Deathstrike, Magneto, and Venom as his horsemen. They alone probably couldn't take Thanos, but he wouldn't have an easy fight. Then throw in some people like Juggernaut, and Loki and Thanos is going to start struggling. Loki would be making a bunch of illusions to confuse, and slow him down, and everyone else would be hitting him with everything they got, and trying to remove the gauntlet
Yeah, actually they could kill thanos atm thanos controlled by mantis, just let ironman stab thanos's heart or brain. They might win the battle but they lose the war, because they only got 1 win out of 1.4 million possibility.
i think it was less they didnt want to kill him, more they couldnt. So knocking him out and stealing the gauntlet was the easiest option. The avengers are fine with killing.
I just realized something: the villiain usually lose because they are up against a full team of superheros. But if there were like 10 villians and 10 heros the hero's would lose pretty easily.
@@lalitrathore3804 It was also practically because of pure luck tho, like Ronan being dumb enough to be disracted by Quill, Rocket and Drax were smart and quick enough to fire up the cannon, and the fact that Quill is half celestial.
Well actually that's not true. If we are talking about villains who were defeated solo (like Red Skull, Iron Monger, Killmonger, etc.) then heroes are winning for sure. It's not even about them being weaker than heroes, it's about heroes being able to team up or having more of such experience before.
Task master can't do everything tho he can only learn technique. In an unpowered (except his own) fight Taskmaster would win all of the time. Against someone who can do things his physical limitations prevent? He would probably lose.
Ultron was literally inspired and created for the purpose of defeating Thanos, and the Stone molded his mind for that exact mission. How could Ultron not win that fight had he destroyed the world and spent several years and building up his own Iron Legion?
Thanos had a superior army. Ultrons drones were like toys. Look what happened to Vision. Let's keep in mind Vision was supposed to be Ultrons final form in the MCU smh
@@djsalteenuts Vision had the potential to be a much more powerful ally had he actually been controlled by an AI capable of welding the mind stone and using it to it's full potential like Ultron, but we had to settle for a talking assistant AI to take his place. No wonder why vision got tossed around in infinity war he was not an AI made for combat unlike Ultron.
@@djsalteenuts Vision was also largely a pacifist, uninterested in perpetually improving himself in terms of combat and durability. Ultron was modeled after Stark, who would have continued to prepare and improve his abilities for the eventual threat that would come. Saying Thanos would crush Ultron like he did Vision is like saying no way Iron Man should have lasted a second against Thanos because he we should measure Iron Man by his Age of Ultron power standards.
@@DeeDoctor they wouldn’t be. They hate each other in every form of media they’ve shared. They’re like mortal enemies. Thanos loves Death (the female incarnate of death) and so does Deadpool. Thanos cursed Deadpool to never die to cock block him lol
@@PzDallas if deadpool becomes a mortal then he can die which means he and death can truly be united. And thanos hates that the most. Killing deadpool is like offering him to the woman he can never have.
Ikr! I mean, Fully Vibranium body, can phase too, fly, Infinity Stone in head, plus that stone being the MIND Stone of all stones mean we'd be screwed cuz Ultron likely would have utilized it better than Jarvis (Vision) did and may have become impossibly intelligent and thus would have become even more powerful and just go out of control.
My problem with Thanos is his lack of imagination when it comes to using the infinity stones. He has the REALITY STONE, he could flex his finger for half a second and turn them all into silly string. He did the exact same thing to the guardians of the galaxy, rendering them all defenceless
Thanos has no issue using the reality stone, but its been nerfed pretty hard in the movies. The MCU reality stone only controls in a certain area and acts more as a temporary solution. He needed to stop the Avengers physically in order to break them down, he wanted them to stop trying and to give him the time stone willingly. He can't steal the time stone so he had to steal their will to fight.
@@thebro6204 ok, use the reality stone to get rid of all their arms and legs, then use the power stone to give them a good beam of energy through the head. i never said that he would use the reality stone to kill them. but he could have easily used the reality stone in combination with another one to take them out in 5 minutes.
@@goldengear3129 yeah thats what I'm saying, I don't think he wanted to. He wanted to give them a fighting chance to crush them physically and mentally.
@@thebro6204 disagree, thanos's goal was always the snap. it was never about sending a message, there was no need to break them mentally if he was just going to retire knowing he "fixed" the universe. after all, he knew they wouldn't be able to fix what he had done (or so he thought). his entire plan revolved around the action of killing half the universe. no espousing his logic to the masses, no "you see, this is what i'm trying to tell you people!" his actions were always objective and to the point. HUGE lack of imagination on his part in getting there.
Buddy, I love that villain (OK, maybe love is a strong world when talking about a rapist) but lets be honest, he was powered up and yet couldnt stop Jessica from snapping his neck... Im pretty sure there'll be a billion excuses for Thanos to not be phased by Kilgraves powers... Specially since I think his powers were due to hormones or something... An alien wouldn't really be affected at all!
@@gilzineto Thanos is resistent to telephatic powers of moon dragon,prof x and other strong telephats,and kilgrave tried to use his powers in one run on dr doom and it didn't phase him at all because of determenation.And dr doom and thanos have similar will power when it comes to that so probably thanos would be immune also.
Lol “like a soda can” exactly my thoughts. Bleeding edge armor couldn’t even hold up what makes ppl think the iron monger which is just upgraded original armor would hold up.
@@CC-ly3rg who knows, by the time of villain infinity war, there might be multiple yellow jackets, also iron monger would probably get addicted to building suits, meaning he'd have a lot of time to upgrade (granted, he's no Tony stark)
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 even if it's "primitive" iron monger would destroy civil war iron suit tho. Iron man ordinary suits got nerfed hard until IW, in the first movie he sent people flying in just a punch and he tank jet missiles, tank bullets while civil war can't even beat cap and bucky and get staggered by falcon.
He doesn’t exactly have a 100% success rate in achieving his goals, but yeah I think Thanos is weak enough that he would pull it off pretty easily given time to advance and vision’s body
@JAYLEE FARLEY That was our original idea but the Time-Keepers wanted to go another way this time to see how well Earth would do against a Titan with 6 infinity stones.
If you say he gets Visions body, all of Wakanda's vibranium, and infinite time to improve himself, then yes, he wins. If you compare how strong he was in his movie against Thanos in his movies then Thanos stomps him.
@@DefenestrateYourself well that's assuming Thanos would have all the stones while fighting Dormammu, and since the subject of this video was during the fight before he got the Time and Mind stone, he wouldn't be able to snap him out of existence then
i mean Hela was so Strong, Thor looked like an insect. she only got defeated because Surthur destroyed the whole planet she was standing on. Hela alone might even be enough to defeat thanos to be honest. Or just throw one of those Dark elf Grenades from Thor 2 (yeah not the best movie) at him lol.
Thanos was so strong, Thor looked like an insect. And Thanos didn't just hurt him a little bit in a long fight he almost killed him and Thor couldn't do anything anymore. Thanos with the gauntlet is stronger, don't you think he could do the same with helas spears like what he did with the moon?
KM would be like, spiderman in that thanos fight. Slash, dodge, repeat. But make no mistake these villians would be trying to kill Thanos. It would be a interesting fight.
Dormammu could probably beat all the others including Thanos combined if he every managed to get to our dimension. Ego would probably be the biggest threat. Edit: as several people are misinterpreting my post. Dormammu is way stronger than the others, only Ego could inflict any damage on him (but would probably be just a scratch).
@@joeyy7904 Yeah if Ultron wins then a lot of things change. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Scarlet Witch would be dead. Odin would also die from the meteor since he was in Norway or whatever since Loki put him there after taking the throne two years prior. That means Hela escapes Hel and easily takes over Asgard as Loki is no match for her. Then Hela would take over realm after realm until Surtur finally decides to show up, but without the eternal flame Hela whoops his ass. Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Black Panther and Wasp would never exist, leaving the only other villain to be Ego who still loses to the Guardians since Ultron winning doesnt affect him and the Guardians. Now here is where it gets interesting. If Ultron wins normally in the timeline then the Ancient One would know and she would try to stop him or try to train Dr Strange earlier so that he could defeat him. So it's almost impossible for Ultron to win because the Ancient One would be prepared. We can bypass that though. This timeline would have Ultron control Vision's body with the mind stone and it will also probably lead to him eventually finding the time stone, which would be catastrophic for Thanos. With Hela ruling Asgard and with the tesseract kept in Asgard, Thanos and the Black Order would be utter fucked. Thanos would be able to take the power stone from Xandar, the reality stone from Knowhere and maybe the Soul stone by kidnapping Gamora again. After that, Thanos would just have to give up, or die trying. Vibranium Ultron army with a Vision and the time stone or Hela who's been on Asgard for years destroy them in seconds.
@@simos6jipros154 No, that is an interesting thought. If things get real tough then the ancient one can just turn backk all of time begorw any of the avengers died. I thinzk that is why her exiestwnce is so important in the MCU universe. She is literally the master of time.
Ego and Dormamu is a good match also Ultron if Ultron just wants to piss thanos to the max by getting his robots to target him while he is getting shat on by both Ego and Dormamu.
Would he? I actually picture him making 6 visions and separating the stones each one of them would effectively be him and could easily work in concert without the drawback of a single point of failure. I think 6 visions networked together all of them Ultron is even more interesting
Lol they'd bite the dust dormammu was dr. Stranges bitch when he had the time stone ego was defeated by his half celestial son who just got his powers. Hela while formidable wasn't a match for a fully powered surtur Thanos turns them into ants and steps on them
It's hilarious how in the comics Thanos whoops everyone's ass except for the Living Tribunal and One Above All but man even Galactus and other Gods and Celestials was easy work for Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet. While MCU Thanos would be dead.
Really shows how sadly watered down the MCU characters are. And in no way is this bad, it makes the MCU more coherent and accessible but it's still a little depressing.
@@zzeroara9511 yea as much as I love the MCU it was kind of absurd how effective the avengers and co were against Thanos on Titan when he nearly had all the stones
I don't know about that. Plenty of the characters here wouldn't work well with others. Also the MCU history would have been drastically different. If Ego hadn't been stopped he would have pretty much made Thanos' mission obsolete since Ego would be the universe. If Ultron had won Earth would be controlled by him and all the Earth villains would likely be dead. You would also have to think how did all of these characters end up teaming up and why were they so quick to trust each other. Ego would have no reason to work with them and would probably take Thanos on himself.
Without something pointy (such as a sword), Ant-man wouldn't even be able to kill a human that way because our tissue is too dense, let alone he could pierce Thanos' rectal tissue. Because Science did the calculations already
@@coppersulphateradio361 That's not even remotely the same as having something expand in your rectum. I really do suggest you watch the video of Because Science since it explains why Ant-man would just get crushed and die
@@MyNEO123456789 thanos destroyed the most powerful version of the mcu hulk. Hulk beat abomination in his 1st film. If thanos one shot abomination I wouldn't be surprised
Dormamu would win easily. He could bring him to the dark dimension, and then even if Thanos had the infinity stones they won’t work in an alternate dimension
I think you've tend to forget in parts of the video he had 4 stones which made him the most powerful being in the universe. If he had time to destroy a moon in a few seconds he could easily destroy ego after taking out the weaker distractions. Also it is known he Thanos didn't even try to beat the average just basically pushed them outta the way. He wasn't even trying
@@luistorres6956 except that’s a thin piece of vibranium. Like the smallest sample size we’ve seen in the MCU. A pure vibranium body powered by the mind stone (vision is only partly vibranium) would be far more durable than the shield. Plus cap intentionally blocked the Uru sword thanos had. Ultron (being his body) would have no incentive to allow thanos to hit him with said sword. The two situations wouldn’t be comparable.
@Omni-Man tbh we can assume that ultron would've basically had an army of vibranium copies of himself, plus its likely he would've still continued to improve himself like what tony did with his suits.
@Omni-Man idk where this perfect body stuff came from. If you look at visions head it’s fucking hollow. Ultron old body but completely comprised of vibranium as in solid, not hollow, would be way more durable. Plus the writers have zero fucking clue what they did by making thanos be able to burst his head like that. Thanos in the MCU is weaker than comics thanos. Comics thanos without using reality warping can’t even break vibranium hitting it as hard as he can. Yet this thanos pinches it and it supposedly snaps. This leads me to believe that the way that vision was 3D printed is not pure vibranium. That in order to make his body more lifelike, there was other materials used.
@@colinnixon7739 that’s not the point. In a timeline where the villains are teaming up and replacing the avengers, Asgard wouldnt have been destroyed. This timeline requires the villains to win, meaning Thor, hulk, etc would be dead, and would not have awakened surtur.
Another thing with that matchup, she can conjure absurdly sharp large/small swords/daggers as much as she wants and with ease. Instantly heals from any damage, and has a metric fuck ton of strength. A power stone blast to the Guardians knocked them out, but didn’t kill them, a concentrated beam of a direct hit from the power stone may have temporarily KOed Captain Marvel, but against Hela, who has better regen and recovery than Captain Marvel would laugh that off...I really don’t see how Thanos could beat her given the rules of it taking place on Titan. They would ambush him same as the heroes, but Hela could just summon an instant blade the size of Thanos and cut him in half before he can even comprehend what is happening.
@@alecpowers8591 Except even his outside is vulnerable, hence why he uses an armor. His insides are probably squishy, and Wasp's laser is particularly strong against organic beings. I know people joke about Ant-Man going up his butt and then turning himself big, but something like that would actually probably work. Sure, Thanos might've been able to avoid Ant-Man entering his ear or whatever, but that's probably not that easy.
Hela, Ego, and Ultron would make easy work off of Thanos, take off his Infinity Gauntlet, and would use the Infinity Gauntlet to do whatever they want especially Ultron.
Him: it took every hero in the universe, the gauntlet, and Tony’s sacrifice to bring down the mad titan When in reality all it took was one swing from stormbreaker
I'd love someone to work out a timeline that worked where some of the villains win that doesn't stop other villains existing, and then pitting those villains against Thanos. Sort of like a mirror universe.
I’m mostly interested in what the older villains would do and how they would evolve in their armor. Like imagine Tony Starks original villain having a upgraded suit after stealing Starks technology as well as having access to the super metals for his suit.
That's... surprisingly plausible. They made the arrow so powerful it's almost an oversight how he didn't he just conquered entire planets with his pirates.
That arrow is overpowered, lol. Think back to Drax tanking those huge trees at subsonic speed and laughing it off, then being pierced by that arrow. That arrow is the only thing in all the movies that got through his skin. I think the arrow might do it.
What if scenario: Ultron gets the mind AND time stone Thanos: "I have conquered planet after planet making them a paradise. And soon, I will save the entire universe that way.... With the snap of my fingers." Ultron: "pah, all you have are labilities and a body count. I beat one of the most powerful teams in the universe by myself. I've seen the future where I don't win. Gotta say it was disappointing and ironic that the world's mightiest heroes couldn't beat you. Yet this time that'll change. After all.... *I was built for this...*
You got a like as soon as I watched your opinion on ultron, I feel as though the movie didn’t do him justice so was nice to see someone appreciate how powerful ultron really is.
@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 "went out like a bitch" literally took in a Power so strong it obliterated the Hulks arm the same arms that could move Tectonic plates and destroyed a gauntlet made from materials denser than white dwarf stars surviving for 2 minutes or so.
@@FizzyPopVevo exactly and they couldn’t just use hulks other arm to keep iron man? 🤨 orrr captain marvel, or thorr, or D Strange coulda made sense cuz he keeps one stone, or some GotG1 shit where the entire gang huddled around starlord, they couldn’t to the same thing w/ the glove? 🤨
Thanos didn't go to Asgard when Odin was still alive, I'd imagine if Surtur was the one keeping one of the stones, Thanos wouldn't be able to take it or he'll die. Dormammu is another factor, if he had taken the stone from Dr. Strange no one and I mean no one will be able to stop him.
@@lordvader3697 well this theory video is mostly based around the titan fight, where the guardians really assured that thanos was unbeatable so they planned to just incapacitate him and take off the gauntlet over everything else.
Yeah I think someone from Marvel even confirmed Thanos waited for villains like Ego and Hela to get dealt with before striking because he would've gotten taken out
@@blastphantomgames6369 I don't think he knew about Hela initially... He knew about Odin dying and that's why he rushed to Asgard... I think Hela or Surtur would have been a surprise to him... Since neither were supposed to be there... In the film, neither started at Asgard.
@New Blue Hela beats thanos. she crushed mjolnir with one hand on earth. The same mjolnir that cap was smacking him around with. Also the only way she can die is if asgard is destroyed
Post victory Ultron definitely could stomp Thanos solo. In the comics once Ultron escapes earth he takes over a techno-organic race spanning like a galaxy in like two hours. Thanos would have a rough time fighting the phalanx ( the species Ultron took over ) let alone doing it in a day.
Imagine the Grandmaster beating Thanos and putting one of those shock discs on Thanos and turning him into one of his Gladiators... Korg: hey there New Doug Thanos: what?! 😂
@@TheMessenGerrrGaiii you obviously underestimate Surtur, thanos couldn’t even hold back Thor with all the stones. Surter would fold thanos in half, he oneshotted all of Asgard, LITERALLY flicked Hulk right off him, and decimated hela with ease. Ego, Surter and Dormammu would fold thanos in half with an incomplete gauntlet no contest People keep forgetting that thanos would of lost if star lord stayed calm during the titan fight.
He wouldn't. The only reason Deadpool was immortal, was because Thanos made it that way so Deadpool wouldn't be able to be together with Death. His immortality stopped however in a "recent" (less than 5 years ago) comic because Deadpool annoyed Thanos too much
@@STORMB999 yea but this isn't the comics we're talking about. This is the MCU, and Deadpool as far as we know is pretty damn unkillable with all he put himself through. He'd just keep coming back over and over again annoying Thanos with 4 wall breaking comments and jokes about his chin
@@sptflcrw8583 no hes blown apart. Everytime hes at a point where he would be dead, he goes to that little space with his dead gf. But overall he really cant die, unless you have the collars lol
I’m glad for the disclaimer at the end bc that was the big flaw to the “villains save the universe” discussion. None of these guys have ever been inclined to “work with” or more accurately to “follow” other people’s lead. Red Skull, Ultron, and Zemo or Killmonger would be a good collection of minds and resources for Earth’s forces but none of them work well with others (except Zemo, maybe), they’re all power hungry leaders who would stab one another in the back for more control over the others even if it means hurting their chances to save Earth. Also I think Doctor Doom is also a overlooked candidate, the new one. Abomination would definitely be a good powerhouse, he’s better balanced in power and intelligence, meaning no alternate personality to deal with if he gets his butt kicked by Thanos initially. So he could last longer against Thanos’ army than Hulk would is my guess, he may even follow one of the others’ lead for fighting the enemy bc he is an experienced soldier. Just depends on if he can keep working together with the others and doesn’t go rogue to fight Thanos alone. Ego’s powers are dependent on being near or on his planet, if he’s too far away and his “body” is killed he’s pretty much useless. Hella is extremely formidable even by Asgardian standards, but she wants to ONLY lead, though if she respects someone she might “work with” them but would not tolerate being the subordinate ever again. In conclusion they’d all have trouble working together bc everyone wants to be in charge and no one wants to follow (except maybe Zemo or Abomination) and they all want to rule the world to the point they’d kill one another to make it happen. What defeated Thanos was the various protective and united efforts multiple supernatural and advanced nations, as well as unique individuals and small groups with special abilities all cooperating with purpose of saving the planet and finally the use of a infinity gauntlet and a self sacrifice by Iron Man. None of the villains covered have enough sense of duty to do all of that and make it possible to defeat Thanos. Mutual survival might bring them together but a lack of trust and purpose would ultimately defeat their efforts.
And yet half of these villains wouldn't care about Thanos' goals. Ultron wants to kill mankind. Killing 50% is basically letting someone else do half your work.
No, Ultron wants to "evolve" the human race. It's only the weak ones he wants to kill, which is like 99.99%, but that's very different from Thanos's kill 50% randomly.
I don’t think any of these villains would be ok with a 50/50 chance that they wouldn’t survive the snap. If they knew they would live through it, then sure, most of them wouldn’t care about Thanos’ plan.
Surtur Was Shown To Be Dead (But Can Be Ressurected) In The Doom Of Asgard (Explosion), *The Power Stone* Is Above That Kind Of Explosion. Ego Was Shown To Be Defeated By A Bomb, *The Reality Stone* And *The Power Stone* Can Also Do A Very Massive Explosion. Dormammu Got Bored By The Time Stone And Accept A Defeat, All *The Six Infinity Stones* (Especially *The Time Stone*) Can Kill Of/Defeat Dormammu, All The Powers Of The Omnipotent* God (Infinity Gauntlet) Can Kill Of Dormammu. I See Many People Are Underestimating Thanos...Lol 🤣😂🤣😂
@@CharlesXavier1012 it don’t matter the type of power you have if you’re in the dark dimension, dormammu can’t lose, and plus you have to remember this isn’t a one on one type of thing this is all of them going at thanos, in which case yes, he gets clapped
@@abrahamherrera7023 even if that would be true, hela > thanos. Hela literally draws power from asgard. She grew so powerful in just some weeks/days in thor 3, imagine what would happen after some years.
@@pizzaguy8844 In the comics it can. Thanos was handling the whole Celestial host with the IG to the point where they reverted to chucking planets at him. The Necrosword is strong as hell though, just not sure why they gave it to Hela
@@AllenHanPR That weapon he had(Stormbreaker) is based off of Jarnbjorn in the comics. That weapon can kill even celestials in the comics because it can cut thru anything basically AND you don't have to be worthy in order to use it, unlike Mjolnir. They also made it way too powerful by having it somehow go right thru a blast from the powers of the gauntlet. Thanos should have just turned it into a yo-yo or something harmless like he did earlier in the movie, like he did with Starlord's gun.
Seeing how it took multiple heroes to beat some of these guys, or the heroes straight up didn’t win in a direct confrontation, Thanos would easily get his cheeks clapped if they all teamed up
Not really the only ones who actually took a group was Ultron ego and etc. Not to mention the heroes who were fighting Thanos are like waaay above the villains they fought.
Well and iron monger. An iron monger suit with vibranium would be far more potent than let’s say war machine and hulk buster with banner inside. No doubt ultron would help stane upgrade the suit.
@@nothingtoospiffy7913 that was a moon which are easy to destroy as they dont have magnetic field atmosphere, cosmic fields greater gravity etc.. than large planet
@@jaijoerik6233 Killgrave's powers only work on the weak minded. In comic people like Daredevil and Punisher, who maintain strong self discipline at all times, are basically immune. So probably won't work on someone like Thanos.
@@jaijoerik6233 he's also never shown to effect people with strong minds. Just regular folk. Even Jessica eventually developed an immunity, so still doubt he could effect Thanos.
I would like to point out that almost all of the villains had armies under their control that could have been used to fight Thanos's armies and they would have probably won due to the nature of those forces being wakanda ruled by killmonger hydra and others the list of armies and ways they could beat Thanos and take less casualties than the heroes did is astounding
If ultron managed to kill the avengers in age of ultron he’d probably have all three of earths infinity stones making him physically equal to thanos by the time he arrives on earth, time, mind and space vs power, reality and soul would be very interesting. Ultron would also have unlimited access to vibranium by killing black panther and mjolnir by killing Thor, not to mention if he wanted to he could probably use starks technology to upgrade himself so he could travel through space and find even stronger metals to upgrade himself and his army with like uru or adamantium
Everybody really underestimates Ultron's potential. I mean, think about it. Ultron wouldn't just stop at Earth. He'd begin killing everyone on every planet. Along the way, every planet's population when killed gives him basically unlimited access to that planets resources, which could supply him with stronger metals, things that make adamantium and Vibranium look like tin foil. He'd become a celestial, after a couple decades. Thanos is screwed by then. You don't even need the other villains, just give Ultron a decade to upgrade.
Ultron would be limited in his ability to travel. Unless someone came by, he wouldn't have access to the ability to jump between worlds. He would have to travel at slow speeds between them. And if no one comes by he'll have a heck of a time locating where other civilizations where. Then if he finds them, then he would have to spend a lot of time getting there.
He wouldnt be able to because other planets would fight back aswell with their own military, you've seen the Nova Corps and Kree, they'd stop Ulton in his tracks if he got there, Thanos would've noticed and put a stop to it. And Ultron is connected to the Earth's internet, I higjy doubt he'd be able to operate and communicate without his internet connectiom, tbats how he survive d amd evolved in his film, through the internet, I dont think alien worlds would have an internet compatibility with a man made machine
The way you said Ultron in a sentence with Thanos is just disgusting, I got three ways Thanos could just end Ultron's career, A. Taking it the slow way by using the spacestone to become ominversal which is the ability to go through anything and not get touched at all (Why do you think the Beyonder, Inifinity and Enternity are so powerful), second use the timestone and reset his whole life cycle by going back in time and ultimately just destroying the codes that programmed Ultron. Three destroy every Ultron in the living universe by using the spacestone to kill him by destroying him (The spacestone has the ability to terminate all types of matter.) before he turns into celestial.
Ultron could definitely build spaceships... but yeah he isn't as much of a threat then. Because while he is networked and has access to anything on that network.. it's still ONLY the human network on earth. He would need to figure out the access to alien networks on a case-by-case basis, al whle being actively fought (while he has built to interface with earth's network from the get go, being basically willingly given access to it) That, and some races like the Asgardian don't even seem to have netoworks at all for Ultron to take over. A spaceborn Ultron is only as much as a threat than the size of the fleet he manages to build basically. (though being a machine that needs no rest, food, administrative BS or even need to train crew to deal with, I could see him rapidly build up some massive fleets)
Just missing a certain Laufeyson, good Loki may have died, but Evil Loki assuming that he teamed up with Hela in Ragnarok instead of Thor, would sent in an illusion pretending to be the real thing, get in at least one cheap shot from a distance before faking his death and running off somewhere.
funny thing is the reverse may be more likely to happen, maybe Thanos and Ultron team up to take down Hela seeing what a threat she is, before of course betraying each other.
Villains fighting or working with other villains is always so great because of those wild card factors. Villains are always stronger because they’re usually meant to be fighting multiple heroes at once if not an entire team, so teaming them up automatically gives them the advantage in power. But then you consider that they’re all insane, backstabbing selfish shortsighted megalomaniacs for all their own reasons and they’d scheme and betray each other- if not just outright try to kill each other from the start. It would be so fascinating to watch unfold and see how these separate villains all played off each other
Thanos had the Power, Space, Reality and Soul stone. If he wanted to he could have finished the titan fight in an instant. He knew Strange had the Time stone and didnt want to kill them before retrieving it. No mcu villains would stand a chance against Thanos with 4 infinity stones, except perhaps Dormammu.
Seconded... No matter what forces arrayed against him... He could just turn them into flesh slinkies. The only way this works is if he had less stones or none.
Dude if you had any infinity stone and used it correctly you could win any fight take for instance time stone boom everyones a baby fight ended reality stone boom everyone thinks they won the fight boom fight ended space stone black hole in everyones brains boom fight ended the infinity stones can literally do about anything
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@@shivramdhaliwal7880 nope
You are to do a video on how powerful dceu Snyder cut pre darkseid
Higher bodycount? Dormammu? And sutur?
Additionally, none of them would have had a problem with taking out Baby Thanos.
Lol, best comment
It wasn't just the killing a baby thing though, Hulk explains in that scene that it wouldn't even work
Secondly, that's horrible!
@@runtergerutscht4401 What do you mean. They're villains. Horrible is kinda their thing.
@@Juiceb0xful it was a reference to endgame
What if we added Thanos? He's a pretty powerful villain but nobody seems to bring it up
Thanos would whoop his own ass
Thanos beats thanos. Thanos beat hulk. Thanos didn't. So boom thanos wins.
Adding Thanos into the equation wouldn’t be that good. Everyone knows Thanos beats Thanos by himself
I think thanos would win
i can see why some would say Thanos would win i want to say thanos would win
Don't forget that Ultron went through many upgrade under 2 days, imagine how powerful he'll be if he was able to evolve for 3 years
Bruh no, too op
I'm pretty sure there's a leaked image of an upgraded Ultron for the What If series
He’d literally become a reaper from Mass Effect
Thanos has 4 infinty stones which are easily capable of destroying whole plantes and species dont forget that.
Ultron has already been shown to be one of, if not THE, most dangerous enemies in all of Marvel Comics. The Ultron we got in AoU was nothing compared to his comic counterpart, who has actually wielded the Infinity Gauntlet multiple times, and once assimilated an entire techno-organic race in order to conquer the entire Kree Empire in less than a week.
Stand down everyone, I'm here to put dirt in Thanos' eyes.
Thanos quivers before you
oh no- his here !!!
Its game over
BOW DOWN TO LORD MAGUIRE
Bully will only die when they fix his damn door
Thanos would have to bargain over and over again if he were to fight Dormammu
Man
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I gave up at this point because of how many times you lurk the internet
Why are you here
Sadly he doesn't have the Mind Stone yet
Another thing is none of the Villains care about civilians, or collateral damage, so they would b dropping houses, skyscrapers on Thanos and would be trying to kill him instead of just stopping him like most Avengers tries to do.
They don’t care about trading lives either like Thanos because the avengers don’t trade lives
@@talhaabowath they also dont work well with others and, wouldn't have any real team work or coordination.
Iron monger especially...and hiting like a truck...he would be the perfect glass cannon
Didnt he say this fight would be on Titan?
There aren't civilians anywhere nearby in either fight between the Avengers and Thanos.
Imagine Thanos being overpowered by a guy named Taserface.
"Whats next scrotum hat?"
@@windetta551 why aren’t you on discord?
@@windetta551 someone’s posting a meme in general
"i understood that reference"
I think the Goop Gun plan will work!!!!
_If _*_Bully Maguire_*_ showed up, _*_Thanos_*_ would have dirt in his eyes immediately._
Lol
*”I’m Gonna Put Some Dirt In Your Eye.”*
I missed the part where that’s my problem 😤
@@BigPimpGrant WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR 😡
There's literally a bully maguire saying that beneath your comment
If there's a way the villains can interest Dormammu into fighting with them, he just solostomps Thanos since Thanos doesn't have the time stone yet. If he doesn't fight with them Hella, Ego and ultron can just take him down without anyone else.
Even if Thanos had the Time Stone he couldn't defeat Dormammu, Dr. Strange didn't he just annoyed him and made a bargain. Dormammu is in a separate dimension (outside of time).
He ripped the Mind Stone out of Vision’s forehead like a kid separating two LEGO pieces, he’d make quick work of Ultron lol
@@OTDinosaurScrubs true.
@@OTDinosaurScrubs ultron 100% won't have one vision-like body or even better. He'll overwhelm him with 100 vision+ bodies
Dot forget surtur at full power
Magneto: So you brought a glove made of metal to fight me?
Thanos: ......
Magneto would have finished the fight before breakfast lol
It's made of a star, the gauntlet isnt metal.
Incorrect Magneto is unable to control Thors hammer since it is a non ferrous material named uru.
Thanos: _Omae wa..._
Stop hitting yourself
Stop hitting yourself
Stop hitting yourself
I’d think Hela alone could stand her ground against Thanos... I mean Thor literally found that it would be easier to destroy his own planet, than try to beat her
Yeah and he could beat thanos on his own
Sal with your iconic pic.
@@hesaryan8756 with out the infinity gauntlet, Hella would rek, with some of them, I'd still give it to her but with all Thanos takes it.
He didn’t have his hammer. Hela would get clapped
@@lionelmessisburner7393 you’re right. He didn’t have his hammer... BECAUSE SHE BROKE IT LIKE IT WAS NOTHING
I think the point of Thanos’ timing of his push were that beings like Ego, Hela, Odin, and the Ancient One were already gone. You’d have to exclude them because they would likely intervene if they were alive in the main story.
Not to mention that if we're including Ultron, we have to add that Ultron was going to kill all humans. That effectively makes him mutually exclusive with other Earth villains.
That said, none of the earth villains were too special they couldn't be replicated by a particularly specialized drone.
@@ryanterry4268 Thanos uses Uru weapons so he would’ve demolished Ultron’s body
@@dd_doesit his body isn't all that important to him. All he needs is just a network connection to live and spread chaos
Also there were a lot of villains left out of the discussion like Apocalypse, Red Hulk, Juggernaut, Mister Sinister, Venom, Magneto ect. I could see Apocalypse and his 4 horsemen being a challenge on their own, especially if they are at the level of when he had Hulk as War. Lets say Apocalypse has Red Hulk, Lady Deathstrike, Magneto, and Venom as his horsemen. They alone probably couldn't take Thanos, but he wouldn't have an easy fight. Then throw in some people like Juggernaut, and Loki and Thanos is going to start struggling. Loki would be making a bunch of illusions to confuse, and slow him down, and everyone else would be hitting him with everything they got, and trying to remove the gauntlet
@@RickySpanish12344 do you really think Juggernaut, who’s an off brand doomsday, can stop thanos?
The differences is hero’s trying to stop thanos and remove gauntlet,villians are trying to kill thanos and steal gauntlet
They would probably kill each other by the end of it. Leaving nothing more but solar system worth of corpses.
The avengers were very obviously trying to kill Thanos lol. Shooting rockets and stuff
Yeah, actually they could kill thanos atm thanos controlled by mantis, just let ironman stab thanos's heart or brain. They might win the battle but they lose the war, because they only got 1 win out of 1.4 million possibility.
hela or ego would win taking the gauntlet
i think it was less they didnt want to kill him, more they couldnt. So knocking him out and stealing the gauntlet was the easiest option.
The avengers are fine with killing.
I just realized something: the villiain usually lose because they are up against a full team of superheros. But if there were like 10 villians and 10 heros the hero's would lose pretty easily.
Guardian of the galaxy:
Hold our dance off.
@@lalitrathore3804 It was also practically because of pure luck tho, like Ronan being dumb enough to be disracted by Quill, Rocket and Drax were smart and quick enough to fire up the cannon, and the fact that Quill is half celestial.
Well actually that's not true. If we are talking about villains who were defeated solo (like Red Skull, Iron Monger, Killmonger, etc.) then heroes are winning for sure. It's not even about them being weaker than heroes, it's about heroes being able to team up or having more of such experience before.
Laughs in Spiderman villians
It's the RPG case all over again. Lol. A party vs a single villain.
PS. It's Ronan The Accuser. Ronin is Hawkeye's alterego.
"I am inevitable."
"And I am Zemo."
*BOOM!* Headshot.
And Zemo Dance!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sniping's a good job mate!
Zemo is arguably the most successful villain in the MCU. He has the most unreversed wins.
Zemo most powerful character in the MCU
Meanwhile Taskmaster with his own gauntlet of infinity stones: *"I copy all your moves"*
Task master can't do everything tho he can only learn technique. In an unpowered (except his own) fight Taskmaster would win all of the time. Against someone who can do things his physical limitations prevent? He would probably lose.
@@determinedhelicopter2948 I think it’s a joke
@@determinedhelicopter2948 it's a joke, and in an unbeatable squirrel girl comic he took on the entire avengers AND the champions
@@whatsyourpoint5417 Didn't Squirrel Girl also "defeated" or befriended Galactus
@@fireemblemheroescuzynot9625 yep
Zemo would defeat thanos with his killer dance moves
Turkish delight
@@maadtee6281 *IRRESISTIBLE*
dance off to save the galaxy
Justin Hammer: So we’re having a dance off now?
He's out of line, but he's right.
Ultron was literally inspired and created for the purpose of defeating Thanos, and the Stone molded his mind for that exact mission. How could Ultron not win that fight had he destroyed the world and spent several years and building up his own Iron Legion?
Thanos had a superior army. Ultrons drones were like toys. Look what happened to Vision. Let's keep in mind Vision was supposed to be Ultrons final form in the MCU smh
@@djsalteenuts Vision had the potential to be a much more powerful ally had he actually been controlled by an AI capable of welding the mind stone and using it to it's full potential like Ultron, but we had to settle for a talking assistant AI to take his place. No wonder why vision got tossed around in infinity war he was not an AI made for combat unlike Ultron.
Give Ultron time he evolve very rapidly
@@djsalteenuts "superior army" dude Thanos army sucked balls too, they were taken down like flies.
@@djsalteenuts Vision was also largely a pacifist, uninterested in perpetually improving himself in terms of combat and durability. Ultron was modeled after Stark, who would have continued to prepare and improve his abilities for the eventual threat that would come. Saying Thanos would crush Ultron like he did Vision is like saying no way Iron Man should have lasted a second against Thanos because he we should measure Iron Man by his Age of Ultron power standards.
Thanos vs every supervillain
Drdeadpool: he doesn’t have a chance 1:34
Lol
tbh deadpool and thanos friendship is very much comedic xD
@@DeeDoctor they wouldn’t be. They hate each other in every form of media they’ve shared. They’re like mortal enemies. Thanos loves Death (the female incarnate of death) and so does Deadpool. Thanos cursed Deadpool to never die to cock block him lol
@@RiceCubeTech Also, the only person Death is interested in is actually Deadpool as he can't die.
@@PzDallas if deadpool becomes a mortal then he can die which means he and death can truly be united. And thanos hates that the most. Killing deadpool is like offering him to the woman he can never have.
The fact that this man acknowledges how op ultron would be if he did get visions body before what if happened is great
Ikr! I mean, Fully Vibranium body, can phase too, fly, Infinity Stone in head, plus that stone being the MIND Stone of all stones mean we'd be screwed cuz Ultron likely would have utilized it better than Jarvis (Vision) did and may have become impossibly intelligent and thus would have become even more powerful and just go out of control.
@@salsaspartan7 Just look at infinity ultron and when Ultron oneshotted thanos in his what if wpisode.
It’s weird to think that ego could probably wield the full force of the infinity gauntlet with ease
Holy shit you have a point. Good thing he was too busy getting laid that he didn't pursue the stones.
What about hela, dormmaru, surtur
@@maadtee6281 Hela and Surtur I would say isn't strong enough, but Dormamu yes.
@@ryanharkin4964 what Are u smoking bruh, Hela didn’t even seem impressed with the tesseract
@@BarackBananas just cause she didnt seem 'impressed' by the tesseract doesn't mean she can wield the full strength of the infinity gauntlet lol
My problem with Thanos is his lack of imagination when it comes to using the infinity stones. He has the REALITY STONE, he could flex his finger for half a second and turn them all into silly string. He did the exact same thing to the guardians of the galaxy, rendering them all defenceless
Thanos has no issue using the reality stone, but its been nerfed pretty hard in the movies. The MCU reality stone only controls in a certain area and acts more as a temporary solution. He needed to stop the Avengers physically in order to break them down, he wanted them to stop trying and to give him the time stone willingly. He can't steal the time stone so he had to steal their will to fight.
I have a feeling Thanos wanted to beat them. Not just warp reality to make them weakened but actually crush them.
@@thebro6204 ok, use the reality stone to get rid of all their arms and legs, then use the power stone to give them a good beam of energy through the head. i never said that he would use the reality stone to kill them. but he could have easily used the reality stone in combination with another one to take them out in 5 minutes.
@@goldengear3129 yeah thats what I'm saying, I don't think he wanted to. He wanted to give them a fighting chance to crush them physically and mentally.
@@thebro6204 disagree, thanos's goal was always the snap. it was never about sending a message, there was no need to break them mentally if he was just going to retire knowing he "fixed" the universe. after all, he knew they wouldn't be able to fix what he had done (or so he thought). his entire plan revolved around the action of killing half the universe. no espousing his logic to the masses, no "you see, this is what i'm trying to tell you people!" his actions were always objective and to the point. HUGE lack of imagination on his part in getting there.
Great video! Maybe if Marvel's What If series gets a Season 2, this would be a fun episode.
Marvel's what if is the only series that might get a season 2
@@astrobird11 loki gets a season two
@@juutota of course
Wow, never thought I'd see you here.
That would be cool
Thanos: “I am inevitab-“
Kilgrave: “OH SHUT UP!”
*Villains win*
Buddy, I love that villain (OK, maybe love is a strong world when talking about a rapist) but lets be honest, he was powered up and yet couldnt stop Jessica from snapping his neck... Im pretty sure there'll be a billion excuses for Thanos to not be phased by Kilgraves powers... Specially since I think his powers were due to hormones or something... An alien wouldn't really be affected at all!
@@gilzineto Thanos is resistent to telephatic powers of moon dragon,prof x and other strong telephats,and kilgrave tried to use his powers in one run on dr doom and it didn't phase him at all because of determenation.And dr doom and thanos have similar will power when it comes to that so probably thanos would be immune also.
@@OdenDChad most definitely. Killgrave is a gangstar at most
@@OdenDChad mmm but this is ucm thanos, he is waaaaay more nerf so maybe I can be damage like that but not a lot?
@@zawarudo2914 i mean didn't scarlet witch tried it and she was made out of souls stone and he resisted her in iw if i remember correctly.
I like how the Iron Monger is there in the thumbnail like he wouldn't be crushed like a soda can.
Lol “like a soda can” exactly my thoughts. Bleeding edge armor couldn’t even hold up what makes ppl think the iron monger which is just upgraded original armor would hold up.
That suit was real primitive even by the standards of the first iron man movie he couldn’t even fly it into space
Yeah Iron Monger would die first because of his trash Suit and, and Yellow Jacket also.
@@CC-ly3rg who knows, by the time of villain infinity war, there might be multiple yellow jackets, also iron monger would probably get addicted to building suits, meaning he'd have a lot of time to upgrade (granted, he's no Tony stark)
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 even if it's "primitive" iron monger would destroy civil war iron suit tho. Iron man ordinary suits got nerfed hard until IW, in the first movie he sent people flying in just a punch and he tank jet missiles, tank bullets while civil war can't even beat cap and bucky and get staggered by falcon.
If it was literally in Ultron’s programming to “Defeat Thanos” by any means possible he would find a way to do it.
He doesn’t exactly have a 100% success rate in achieving his goals, but yeah I think Thanos is weak enough that he would pull it off pretty easily given time to advance and vision’s body
@JAYLEE FARLEY Imagine a nanobot vibranium hulkbuster tho
@JAYLEE FARLEY That was our original idea but the Time-Keepers wanted to go another way this time to see how well Earth would do against a Titan with 6 infinity stones.
@@bigbrother7604 hold up wait a minute
If you say he gets Visions body, all of Wakanda's vibranium, and infinite time to improve himself, then yes, he wins.
If you compare how strong he was in his movie against Thanos in his movies then Thanos stomps him.
I can’t see Thanos defeating Dormammu. Nobody could even hurt him in the Dr Strange movie.
He rules an entire dimension. I don't see how myself.
Snap him out of existence?
@@DefenestrateYourself well that's assuming Thanos would have all the stones while fighting Dormammu, and since the subject of this video was during the fight before he got the Time and Mind stone, he wouldn't be able to snap him out of existence then
@@DefenestrateYourself in doesn't work in other dimensions
So true!!! Dormammu is basically some sort of demon lord! No one could truly defeat him in a fight!
i mean Hela was so Strong, Thor looked like an insect. she only got defeated because Surthur destroyed the whole planet she was standing on. Hela alone might even be enough to defeat thanos to be honest. Or just throw one of those Dark elf Grenades from Thor 2 (yeah not the best movie) at him lol.
Hela was strong because she was absorbing the odin force from Asgard. Away from it, its unsure.
@@TheDarkMaster312 wasnt she away from asgard, literally on earth, when she destroyed Mjolnir with just one hand and without even flinching ?
And Surthur can kill everyone in Thanos's army (after absorbing eternal flames)
@@user-qi5vf4ur8p surthur might be out of competition haha
Thanos was so strong, Thor looked like an insect. And Thanos didn't just hurt him a little bit in a long fight he almost killed him and Thor couldn't do anything anymore. Thanos with the gauntlet is stronger, don't you think he could do the same with helas spears like what he did with the moon?
Killmonger would just take off his shirt and get Thanos feeling sus
LMAO
KM would be like, spiderman in that thanos fight. Slash, dodge, repeat. But make no mistake these villians would be trying to kill Thanos. It would be a interesting fight.
😂
😭
Facts
Imagine how different the whole mcu would be if the avengers were made up of the villains from the movies instead of the heroes
Suicide squad but good?
I would pay good money to see this
The revengers
Dark Avengers?
Unvengers?
I mean Hela is the goddess of death, Thanos would just get seduced lol
Just like in the comics
@@1221-o7e Woah, interesting reference.
@@1221-o7e Could you explain?
@@savageshot3723 thanos works for death in the comics
Goddess of death and Mistress Death are two different people. Hela is not his bae
Dormammu could probably beat all the others including Thanos combined if he every managed to get to our dimension. Ego would probably be the biggest threat.
Edit: as several people are misinterpreting my post. Dormammu is way stronger than the others, only Ego could inflict any damage on him (but would probably be just a scratch).
Just wait, there’s a celestial killing villain who’d make the fight last seconds
@@thatoneotherguy3299 Groot?
@@thatoneotherguy3299 I don’t think you know just how powerful Dormmamu is
@@thatoneotherguy3299 nah dude
Bro dormammu seems way more op then ego
They really need to make this a What If episode. Maybe a timeline where every hero died to their villains
The big problem there is ultron, if he wins earth is a bit messed up going forward. Not to mention hes in visions body with the mind stone
A lot of the villains wouldn’t exist without Iron Man’s influence, not saying it’s a horrible idea but it’s just something to think about
@@joeyy7904 Yeah if Ultron wins then a lot of things change. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Scarlet Witch would be dead. Odin would also die from the meteor since he was in Norway or whatever since Loki put him there after taking the throne two years prior. That means Hela escapes Hel and easily takes over Asgard as Loki is no match for her. Then Hela would take over realm after realm until Surtur finally decides to show up, but without the eternal flame Hela whoops his ass. Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Black Panther and Wasp would never exist, leaving the only other villain to be Ego who still loses to the Guardians since Ultron winning doesnt affect him and the Guardians.
Now here is where it gets interesting. If Ultron wins normally in the timeline then the Ancient One would know and she would try to stop him or try to train Dr Strange earlier so that he could defeat him. So it's almost impossible for Ultron to win because the Ancient One would be prepared. We can bypass that though.
This timeline would have Ultron control Vision's body with the mind stone and it will also probably lead to him eventually finding the time stone, which would be catastrophic for Thanos. With Hela ruling Asgard and with the tesseract kept in Asgard, Thanos and the Black Order would be utter fucked. Thanos would be able to take the power stone from Xandar, the reality stone from Knowhere and maybe the Soul stone by kidnapping Gamora again. After that, Thanos would just have to give up, or die trying.
Vibranium Ultron army with a Vision and the time stone or Hela who's been on Asgard for years destroy them in seconds.
He probably means the og 6
@@simos6jipros154 No, that is an interesting thought. If things get real tough then the ancient one can just turn backk all of time begorw any of the avengers died. I thinzk that is why her exiestwnce is so important in the MCU universe. She is literally the master of time.
Thanos: I am inevitable
Hela, Ego and Ultron: Im boutta end this man's whole career
dormamu
I don't think ultron would do much
I mean surtur has a chance 2
Ultron couldn't beat anyone he sucked. Iron man kicked his ass.
Ego and Dormamu is a good match also Ultron if Ultron just wants to piss thanos to the max by getting his robots to target him while he is getting shat on by both Ego and Dormamu.
I think ultron would make a “Vision” with all the infinity stones and the concept is soooo interesting
Would he? I actually picture him making 6 visions and separating the stones each one of them would effectively be him and could easily work in concert without the drawback of a single point of failure. I think 6 visions networked together all of them Ultron is even more interesting
@@matthewbednar7118 this definitely seems more like ultron. He doesn't need 1 body to have all the power
He turned himself into a living infinity gauntlet, they fused into his chest plate and he used a big power lance as a weapon
Hahahaha what if marvel series be like
@@matthewbednar7118 what if series be like
I think that Dormammu, Hela, and Ego together could easily defeat thanos
Dormammu alone would kill thanos in seconds
@@hellmans_mustard9623 Same with Hela
@Notic 8.0 Nope
@Notic 8.0 u are wrong go rewatch ragnarok
Lol they'd bite the dust dormammu was dr. Stranges bitch when he had the time stone ego was defeated by his half celestial son who just got his powers. Hela while formidable wasn't a match for a fully powered surtur
Thanos turns them into ants and steps on them
It's hilarious how in the comics Thanos whoops everyone's ass except for the Living Tribunal and One Above All but man even Galactus and other Gods and Celestials was easy work for Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet.
While MCU Thanos would be dead.
Really shows how sadly watered down the MCU characters are. And in no way is this bad, it makes the MCU more coherent and accessible but it's still a little depressing.
Yeah no there was a story where thanos beat both of them and also became everything he end up committing suicide because he hated it
@@zzeroara9511 yea as much as I love the MCU it was kind of absurd how effective the avengers and co were against Thanos on Titan when he nearly had all the stones
Comic thanos was defeated by squirrel girl....check ur facts
And his spine was ripped out by god doom as well.
He isnt invincible.
He's been defeated. Like alot.
Bully Maguire: you're trash Thanos, wanna cry.
Green Goblin: You and I can rule this city Thanos...
or we can just fight to the death
@@gechotaris which means instant death for me
I’m a bit of a homicidal maniac myself
I could only think of the oneyplays bit where he tries to seduce Spider-Man
“Let die the daughter you love, or suffer the little stones!”
I think they might work together if they each think basically "What if I'm part of the half he kills"
Good point
This What If scenario is actually pretty interesting this could have easily happened in the actual MCU storyline.
For sure 👀
@@iVoltGaming ivoltgaming what are you doing here?
@@iVoltGaming you doing good?
Na this couldn't have easily happened in the movie but I hear ya lol
I don't know about that. Plenty of the characters here wouldn't work well with others. Also the MCU history would have been drastically different. If Ego hadn't been stopped he would have pretty much made Thanos' mission obsolete since Ego would be the universe. If Ultron had won Earth would be controlled by him and all the Earth villains would likely be dead. You would also have to think how did all of these characters end up teaming up and why were they so quick to trust each other. Ego would have no reason to work with them and would probably take Thanos on himself.
No. Antman would have killed him rectally. We all know this.
True story
Without something pointy (such as a sword), Ant-man wouldn't even be able to kill a human that way because our tissue is too dense, let alone he could pierce Thanos' rectal tissue. Because Science did the calculations already
@@STORMB999 okay, then explain why people bleed if the poo is too big?
@@coppersulphateradio361 That's not even remotely the same as having something expand in your rectum. I really do suggest you watch the video of Because Science since it explains why Ant-man would just get crushed and die
And I thought this dumbass meme was dead. Yet here we are. The internet is amazing.
The only villains who would give him trouble would dormamu, Ego and Hela
what about Abomination?
@@MyNEO123456789 if he manhandled the hulk i think he could beat down abomination
@@MyNEO123456789 thanos destroyed the most powerful version of the mcu hulk. Hulk beat abomination in his 1st film. If thanos one shot abomination I wouldn't be surprised
Dormamu would win easily. He could bring him to the dark dimension, and then even if Thanos had the infinity stones they won’t work in an alternate dimension
@@popebender1351 That might have been retconned considering that the infinity stones from Endgame are from different universes.
I think you've tend to forget in parts of the video he had 4 stones which made him the most powerful being in the universe. If he had time to destroy a moon in a few seconds he could easily destroy ego after taking out the weaker distractions.
Also it is known he Thanos didn't even try to beat the average just basically pushed them outta the way. He wasn't even trying
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The Utron section would be the most interesting outcome in the timeline, the thought of a vibranium welding ultron is terrifying.
Ultron having the 3 stones on earth would be more terrifying. Lol remember cap shield vibranium and got cut thru broke.
@@luistorres6956 except that’s a thin piece of vibranium. Like the smallest sample size we’ve seen in the MCU. A pure vibranium body powered by the mind stone (vision is only partly vibranium) would be far more durable than the shield. Plus cap intentionally blocked the Uru sword thanos had. Ultron (being his body) would have no incentive to allow thanos to hit him with said sword. The two situations wouldn’t be comparable.
@@RiceCubeTech Tru lol
@Omni-Man tbh we can assume that ultron would've basically had an army of vibranium copies of himself, plus its likely he would've still continued to improve himself like what tony did with his suits.
@Omni-Man idk where this perfect body stuff came from. If you look at visions head it’s fucking hollow. Ultron old body but completely comprised of vibranium as in solid, not hollow, would be way more durable. Plus the writers have zero fucking clue what they did by making thanos be able to burst his head like that. Thanos in the MCU is weaker than comics thanos. Comics thanos without using reality warping can’t even break vibranium hitting it as hard as he can. Yet this thanos pinches it and it supposedly snaps. This leads me to believe that the way that vision was 3D printed is not pure vibranium. That in order to make his body more lifelike, there was other materials used.
This is something unexpected but still a welcome surprise
Or as palps said a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@@hamrahavaluser Pimp daddy Palpatine was the one who said that.
@@jollypop_comics8759 oh holy qui gon did I jus wrote obi wan ? Thanks for letting me know
@@jollypop_comics8759 lol it was baby yoda line you noob
Sheev
I would think the villains will be trying to get the gauntlet for themselves.
yes but not many could really use it
probably hela, surtur and ego but the others probably not
@@crimsonhunter7598 hela doesn't really care, she looked at the infinity stone and was like, oh nice so anyways.
@@azrael_pendragon because it was a fake gauntlet
@@crimsonhunter7598 i was talking about the space blue stone thing
@@azrael_pendragon tesseract
This video just reminded me how much I love villain vs villain fights, hopefully we get some in phase 4
Hella grows more powerfull the more time spend on asguard. After 2 years she would be way more powerful than what we saw her doing.
Hela and asgard are gone at this point
@@colinnixon7739 that’s not the point. In a timeline where the villains are teaming up and replacing the avengers, Asgard wouldnt have been destroyed. This timeline requires the villains to win, meaning Thor, hulk, etc would be dead, and would not have awakened surtur.
Another thing with that matchup, she can conjure absurdly sharp large/small swords/daggers as much as she wants and with ease. Instantly heals from any damage, and has a metric fuck ton of strength. A power stone blast to the Guardians knocked them out, but didn’t kill them, a concentrated beam of a direct hit from the power stone may have temporarily KOed Captain Marvel, but against Hela, who has better regen and recovery than Captain Marvel would laugh that off...I really don’t see how Thanos could beat her given the rules of it taking place on Titan. They would ambush him same as the heroes, but Hela could just summon an instant blade the size of Thanos and cut him in half before he can even comprehend what is happening.
she would've gone for the head
“THE LONGER HELLA IS ON ASGARD, THE STRONGER SHE WILL BECOME!!”
Wasp flies into Thanos’ ear and then starts lazering everything.
Bro
I think his inside is invulnerable too
@@alecpowers8591 Except even his outside is vulnerable, hence why he uses an armor. His insides are probably squishy, and Wasp's laser is particularly strong against organic beings. I know people joke about Ant-Man going up his butt and then turning himself big, but something like that would actually probably work. Sure, Thanos might've been able to avoid Ant-Man entering his ear or whatever, but that's probably not that easy.
I just imagined wasp turning thanos into a Down syndrome special Ed kid mid fight 😂
@@BrownHairL thanos is invulnerable and has immortality
Hela, Ego, and Ultron would make easy work off of Thanos, take off his Infinity Gauntlet, and would use the Infinity Gauntlet to do whatever they want especially Ultron.
Yes especially Ultron for sure !!!
hela, ego, surtur could win or use the gauntlet and not die
ultron maybe not
If Thanos have the Gauntlet I don't think those 3 could win or more accurately it depends on the Stones he has on him
@@OK-yy6qz they nerfed ego in all honesty
@@andromedabloom3277 if he can beat vision so easily then ultron would be easily killed
I feel like this would be a solid what if episode as in the marvel show coming up
Ultron: *manages to cut thanos*
Thanos: “all that for a drop of blood”
Also Thanos: *dies of blood loss*
"Okay. Two drops of blood. Ten. Twenty. Damn." *collapses*
Him: it took every hero in the universe, the gauntlet, and Tony’s sacrifice to bring down the mad titan
When in reality all it took was one swing from stormbreaker
Just at the wrong place.
Pretty sure it wasn't every hero in the universe. Marvel is a huge place.
Naw
The fact that Ultron is a good option says something about iron man's idea of having something to protect the earth.
I'd love someone to work out a timeline that worked where some of the villains win that doesn't stop other villains existing, and then pitting those villains against Thanos. Sort of like a mirror universe.
I’m mostly interested in what the older villains would do and how they would evolve in their armor. Like imagine Tony Starks original villain having a upgraded suit after stealing Starks technology as well as having access to the super metals for his suit.
Imagine Jondu casually whistling his arrow through thanos head
That can actually happen ngl
That's... surprisingly plausible. They made the arrow so powerful it's almost an oversight how he didn't he just conquered entire planets with his pirates.
Probably wouldn't be powerful enough, Iron man hit him with everything he had and barely made him bleed
@@sefbeck1460 🤷🏻♂️ we will never know
That arrow is overpowered, lol. Think back to Drax tanking those huge trees at subsonic speed and laughing it off, then being pierced by that arrow. That arrow is the only thing in all the movies that got through his skin.
I think the arrow might do it.
What if scenario: Ultron gets the mind AND time stone
Thanos: "I have conquered planet after planet making them a paradise. And soon, I will save the entire universe that way.... With the snap of my fingers."
Ultron: "pah, all you have are labilities and a body count. I beat one of the most powerful teams in the universe by myself. I've seen the future where I don't win. Gotta say it was disappointing and ironic that the world's mightiest heroes couldn't beat you. Yet this time that'll change. After all....
*I was built for this...*
I wanna see this so much
YES, YES, YESSS.
Bit dramatic
... I'm getting a bit of Sans here
I read Ultron's voice in a yee haw southern accent for some reason
Imagine he added serter and dormammu to the list thanos would to obliterated in like 2 seconds
@Lucas West Yeaaaa it would but we know who's winning in the end
cough cough* surtur
@@brysonstith4926 nah
@@xrphoenix7194 yep
@@foreverbored1713 give me rent
@@xrphoenix7194 you'll get your rent when you fix this damn door
You got a like as soon as I watched your opinion on ultron, I feel as though the movie didn’t do him justice so was nice to see someone appreciate how powerful ultron really is.
T- "I am inevitable"
Villains - "And we don't have any morals to hold us back"
Well weren’t they ready to kill? Thor killed thanos, and iron man went out like a bitch
@@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 "went out like a bitch" literally took in a Power so strong it obliterated the Hulks arm the same arms that could move Tectonic plates and destroyed a gauntlet made from materials denser than white dwarf stars surviving for 2 minutes or so.
@@FizzyPopVevo exactly and they couldn’t just use hulks other arm to keep iron man? 🤨 orrr captain marvel, or thorr, or D Strange coulda made sense cuz he keeps one stone, or some GotG1 shit where the entire gang huddled around starlord, they couldn’t to the same thing w/ the glove? 🤨
Thanos didn't go to Asgard when Odin was still alive, I'd imagine if Surtur was the one keeping one of the stones, Thanos wouldn't be able to take it or he'll die.
Dormammu is another factor, if he had taken the stone from Dr. Strange no one and I mean no one will be able to stop him.
The hero’s didn’t really want to kill him but the villains would try to do it at the first part
Lol thor literally chopped his head off
@@lordvader3697 after losing In the first movie
@@albetto4475 they also tried to kill him on the first movie
@@lordvader3697 well this theory video is mostly based around the titan fight, where the guardians really assured that thanos was unbeatable so they planned to just incapacitate him and take off the gauntlet over everything else.
@@lordvader3697 yah but thor went for the chest to try and talk villains would prob kill him first
Idk about the rest of these guys, but Batroc the leaper would fuck him up
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I can see Hela, Ego & Dormammu laughing at the background.
Literally thanks could make it so hela can’t shoot her thingys to him, make ego like frozen and not able to move, idk abt dormammu 🤷♂️
@@aidanmcguinness5852 nope
@@aidanmcguinness5852 that wouldn’t work
Why would they laugh at the background? What's funny about the background?
@@Evtascafiltpvadcsflloliltefsat why not
Yeah I think someone from Marvel even confirmed Thanos waited for villains like Ego and Hela to get dealt with before striking because he would've gotten taken out
Idk about hela since he was already in the Asgardian area code when they escaped the planet
@@blastphantomgames6369 I don't think he knew about Hela initially... He knew about Odin dying and that's why he rushed to Asgard... I think Hela or Surtur would have been a surprise to him... Since neither were supposed to be there... In the film, neither started at Asgard.
@@claudewinters2091 yeah, Odin is what I meant, not Hela lol
Thanos vs Ego or Hela going 1v1 would be pretty dope to watch
Would be one sided, Ego and Hela are considerably more powerful!
@@silversurfer8818 u must be a joke Thanos would solo them both
@New Blue just go look at DanCo's video on Mcu ego vs Mcu Thanos you'll have your answers
@New Blue Hela beats thanos. she crushed mjolnir with one hand on earth. The same mjolnir that cap was smacking him around with. Also the only way she can die is if asgard is destroyed
@@SouthDraftCorp also helps and ego are teaming up to beat him
Post victory Ultron definitely could stomp Thanos solo. In the comics once Ultron escapes earth he takes over a techno-organic race spanning like a galaxy in like two hours. Thanos would have a rough time fighting the phalanx ( the species Ultron took over ) let alone doing it in a day.
Imagine the Grandmaster beating Thanos and putting one of those shock discs on Thanos and turning him into one of his Gladiators...
Korg: hey there New Doug
Thanos: what?!
😂
if you actually pay attention to the grandmaster building you see a sculpture of thanos' head meaning he was one of the old champions
@@DJlanez I think there was also one with the alien Thor guy and one with Ronan too.
@@DJlanez I don’t think thanos is on that wall at all
@@trentenmontesino7017 he's not
That Melting thing would be funny
Only Loki would have been a person to be in both of the heros and villains group
Bucky too!
Theres also the Winter Soldier
and nebula
How about the white vision
Yondu
Funny you mention Surtur without throwing him against Thanos. I mean he isn’t the main villain but he is a villain with incredible strength.
He was only using villians from the picture is why, surtur wasnt in the pic
@@joeyy7904 Still, definitely worth recruiting.
With the new What If this video suddenly becomes much more accurate
I was thinking about this the whole time watching the infinity saga. Hela, as well as Surtur would've given him a hard time.
*Hela would easily beat Thanos (without infinity stones).* Hela doesn't even care about the space stone when she's in Asgard.
@@johnelmartagbago3764 that's 1 stone and no gauntlet. All stones she gets maxed
Hela and Surtur would still die against 4 Infinity Stones. People are wankin these characters to unspeakable levels.
@@TheMessenGerrrGaiii you obviously underestimate Surtur, thanos couldn’t even hold back Thor with all the stones.
Surter would fold thanos in half, he oneshotted all of Asgard, LITERALLY flicked Hulk right off him, and decimated hela with ease.
Ego, Surter and Dormammu would fold thanos in half with an incomplete gauntlet no contest
People keep forgetting that thanos would of lost if star lord stayed calm during the titan fight.
@@TheMessenGerrrGaiii Why aren't you talking about Ego, the guy is basically a god whit a small "G" like he said.
He would be stuck in a “dormammu I’ve come to bargain” loop if he fought Deadpool
He wouldn't. The only reason Deadpool was immortal, was because Thanos made it that way so Deadpool wouldn't be able to be together with Death. His immortality stopped however in a "recent" (less than 5 years ago) comic because Deadpool annoyed Thanos too much
@@STORMB999 Deadpool would get to visit death briefly every time he died so
@@STORMB999 yea but this isn't the comics we're talking about. This is the MCU, and Deadpool as far as we know is pretty damn unkillable with all he put himself through.
He'd just keep coming back over and over again annoying Thanos with 4 wall breaking comments and jokes about his chin
@@adambrown6669 he’s not unkillable, he nearly dies in an explosion, what?
@@sptflcrw8583 no hes blown apart. Everytime hes at a point where he would be dead, he goes to that little space with his dead gf. But overall he really cant die, unless you have the collars lol
I’m glad for the disclaimer at the end bc that was the big flaw to the “villains save the universe” discussion. None of these guys have ever been inclined to “work with” or more accurately to “follow” other people’s lead. Red Skull, Ultron, and Zemo or Killmonger would be a good collection of minds and resources for Earth’s forces but none of them work well with others (except Zemo, maybe), they’re all power hungry leaders who would stab one another in the back for more control over the others even if it means hurting their chances to save Earth. Also I think Doctor Doom is also a overlooked candidate, the new one. Abomination would definitely be a good powerhouse, he’s better balanced in power and intelligence, meaning no alternate personality to deal with if he gets his butt kicked by Thanos initially. So he could last longer against Thanos’ army than Hulk would is my guess, he may even follow one of the others’ lead for fighting the enemy bc he is an experienced soldier. Just depends on if he can keep working together with the others and doesn’t go rogue to fight Thanos alone. Ego’s powers are dependent on being near or on his planet, if he’s too far away and his “body” is killed he’s pretty much useless. Hella is extremely formidable even by Asgardian standards, but she wants to ONLY lead, though if she respects someone she might “work with” them but would not tolerate being the subordinate ever again. In conclusion they’d all have trouble working together bc everyone wants to be in charge and no one wants to follow (except maybe Zemo or Abomination) and they all want to rule the world to the point they’d kill one another to make it happen. What defeated Thanos was the various protective and united efforts multiple supernatural and advanced nations, as well as unique individuals and small groups with special abilities all cooperating with purpose of saving the planet and finally the use of a infinity gauntlet and a self sacrifice by Iron Man. None of the villains covered have enough sense of duty to do all of that and make it possible to defeat Thanos. Mutual survival might bring them together but a lack of trust and purpose would ultimately defeat their efforts.
As much as most of the MCU villains lacked anything interesting,the MCU did do a good job at making them feel like a threat
And yet half of these villains wouldn't care about Thanos' goals. Ultron wants to kill mankind. Killing 50% is basically letting someone else do half your work.
No, Ultron wants to "evolve" the human race. It's only the weak ones he wants to kill, which is like 99.99%, but that's very different from Thanos's kill 50% randomly.
@@rlacksgh9673 wasnt his plan to drop the 10,000lbs of vibranium and kill every human on the planet???
@@static_ender5378 the strong ones would survive. Evolution through extinction
I don’t think any of these villains would be ok with a 50/50 chance that they wouldn’t survive the snap. If they knew they would live through it, then sure, most of them wouldn’t care about Thanos’ plan.
@@jasongarman Ultron can't actually die through this snap cause he's an AI and not a living creature
You mentioned Surtur as someone who Hela fought but failed to mention him as one of the villians
Considering that Surtur just one-shotted Hela... yeah, Thanos is screwed!
@@calebdonaldson8770 but didn’t he die when Asgard exploded? Because we never see or hear from him or about him again
@@TonyJaaFan1587 nah. Surtur just returns to his realm right after he destroys asgard. Of course now with the power of the eternal flame.
@@TonyJaaFan1587 surtur can't really die until he finishes off the 8 or 9 realms which is his task or whatever
@@ItsMeBarnaby A battle of the grapes! :P
short answer: he’d get smacked
(especially including surtur, dormammu, ego and those type of villains)
Doctor Doom too lol
@@t5hammer871 oh yeah fs he’s a god
Surtur Was Shown To Be Dead (But Can Be Ressurected) In The Doom Of Asgard (Explosion), *The Power Stone* Is Above That Kind Of Explosion.
Ego Was Shown To Be Defeated By A Bomb, *The Reality Stone* And *The Power Stone* Can Also Do A Very Massive Explosion.
Dormammu Got Bored By The Time Stone And Accept A Defeat, All *The Six Infinity Stones* (Especially *The Time Stone*) Can Kill Of/Defeat Dormammu, All The Powers Of The Omnipotent* God (Infinity Gauntlet) Can Kill Of Dormammu.
I See Many People Are Underestimating Thanos...Lol 🤣😂🤣😂
@@CharlesXavier1012 it don’t matter the type of power you have if you’re in the dark dimension, dormammu can’t lose, and plus you have to remember this isn’t a one on one type of thing this is all of them going at thanos, in which case yes, he gets clapped
@@cs4215_ Time Stone: Am I A Joke To You
you were super right about ultron in visions body lmao OP
I Can Definitely See This Scenario Being Marvel Version of Suicide Squad
I think that's like the thunderbolts or something
@@tehbekfast8307 yeah it’s gonna be the thunderbolts which was sort of leaked in CAATWS last episode
@@luketyers4026 why didn’t you write FATWS?
@@hazard1319 at the end credits of the show it was captain america and the winter soldier
if hela had the “necrosword” this is done. hela alone deals with thanos.
Sadly it's not Knulls Necrosword. That'd be badass though, and absolutely overpowered
Infinity guantlet>>>>>necrosword
@@abrahamherrera7023 My guy the gauntlet cannot kill celestials. The Necrosword very much can
@@abrahamherrera7023 even if that would be true, hela > thanos. Hela literally draws power from asgard. She grew so powerful in just some weeks/days in thor 3, imagine what would happen after some years.
@@pizzaguy8844 In the comics it can. Thanos was handling the whole Celestial host with the IG to the point where they reverted to chucking planets at him. The Necrosword is strong as hell though, just not sure why they gave it to Hela
In his prime, Thor solo’d Thanos in Infinity War by just throwing his axe at him.
He had solo'd him he would've solo'd him. He didn't go for the head. So obviously the universe got wiped.
Not even close, the directors said that Thanos was caught off guard, how can't ya'll see that Thanos would destroy Thor?
@@AllenHanPR That weapon he had(Stormbreaker) is based off of Jarnbjorn in the comics.
That weapon can kill even celestials in the comics because it can cut thru anything basically AND you don't have to be worthy in order to use it, unlike Mjolnir.
They also made it way too powerful by having it somehow go right thru a blast from the powers of the gauntlet.
Thanos should have just turned it into a yo-yo or something harmless like he did earlier in the movie, like he did with Starlord's gun.
@@Whateveridksomething You clearly see this in Endgame when he is outmatching Thor, Ironman and Cap at the same time.
Infinite war Thanos could have turned Thor's brain into a solid lump of coal and end the fight before he realised it
Dude predicted the Ultron episode from What If
Seeing how it took multiple heroes to beat some of these guys, or the heroes straight up didn’t win in a direct confrontation, Thanos would easily get his cheeks clapped if they all teamed up
Not really the only ones who actually took a group was Ultron ego and etc. Not to mention the heroes who were fighting Thanos are like waaay above the villains they fought.
I need a Thanos vs Ego fight RIGHT NOW
I also could see Yellowjacket getting a vibranium upgrade
Thanos did destroy a planet by looking at it soo....
Well and iron monger. An iron monger suit with vibranium would be far more potent than let’s say war machine and hulk buster with banner inside. No doubt ultron would help stane upgrade the suit.
@@nothingtoospiffy7913 that was a moon which are easy to destroy as they dont have magnetic field atmosphere, cosmic fields greater gravity etc.. than large planet
You just need Killgrave to say “oof yourself” and boom Thanos defeated
Man of culture
@Omni-Man why not
@@jaijoerik6233 Killgrave's powers only work on the weak minded. In comic people like Daredevil and Punisher, who maintain strong self discipline at all times, are basically immune. So probably won't work on someone like Thanos.
@@wiseguy01 Thats comics MCU killgrave is never shown to have that kind of weakness
@@jaijoerik6233 he's also never shown to effect people with strong minds. Just regular folk. Even Jessica eventually developed an immunity, so still doubt he could effect Thanos.
I would like to point out that almost all of the villains had armies under their control that could have been used to fight Thanos's armies and they would have probably won due to the nature of those forces being wakanda ruled by killmonger hydra and others the list of armies and ways they could beat Thanos and take less casualties than the heroes did is astounding
Ultron in Wakanda fighting midnight, cold ascidian. Ultron May also have the time stone.
If ultron managed to kill the avengers in age of ultron he’d probably have all three of earths infinity stones making him physically equal to thanos by the time he arrives on earth, time, mind and space vs power, reality and soul would be very interesting. Ultron would also have unlimited access to vibranium by killing black panther and mjolnir by killing Thor, not to mention if he wanted to he could probably use starks technology to upgrade himself so he could travel through space and find even stronger metals to upgrade himself and his army with like uru or adamantium
@@TonyJaaFan1587 I think he be only to be able
Analyze mjolnir. 👍
@@lazykingdom eventually Ultron would go to the stars and create his own uru forge lol
@@lazykingdom if vision can lift the hammer so can ultron, so yes he can wield it
@@TonyJaaFan1587 sorry but ultron have different mind set, but I give him a 10% chance
Thanos: I’m going to give a serious monologue about my soon to be victory
Hella: *throws a sword into him*
Thanos is actually pretty smart though
@Dmoney she went for the head the first time
We all saw what she did to Asgard’s army right?
@@mipe5997 and you saw what Thanos did to asgard too right?
Ego alone would be enough
Everybody really underestimates Ultron's potential. I mean, think about it. Ultron wouldn't just stop at Earth. He'd begin killing everyone on every planet. Along the way, every planet's population when killed gives him basically unlimited access to that planets resources, which could supply him with stronger metals, things that make adamantium and Vibranium look like tin foil. He'd become a celestial, after a couple decades. Thanos is screwed by then. You don't even need the other villains, just give Ultron a decade to upgrade.
Ultron would be limited in his ability to travel. Unless someone came by, he wouldn't have access to the ability to jump between worlds. He would have to travel at slow speeds between them. And if no one comes by he'll have a heck of a time locating where other civilizations where. Then if he finds them, then he would have to spend a lot of time getting there.
He wouldnt be able to because other planets would fight back aswell with their own military, you've seen the Nova Corps and Kree, they'd stop Ulton in his tracks if he got there, Thanos would've noticed and put a stop to it. And Ultron is connected to the Earth's internet, I higjy doubt he'd be able to operate and communicate without his internet connectiom, tbats how he survive d amd evolved in his film, through the internet, I dont think alien worlds would have an internet compatibility with a man made machine
The way you said Ultron in a sentence with Thanos is just disgusting, I got three ways Thanos could just end Ultron's career, A. Taking it the slow way by using the spacestone to become ominversal which is the ability to go through anything and not get touched at all (Why do you think the Beyonder, Inifinity and Enternity are so powerful), second use the timestone and reset his whole life cycle by going back in time and ultimately just destroying the codes that programmed Ultron. Three destroy every Ultron in the living universe by using the spacestone to kill him by destroying him (The spacestone has the ability to terminate all types of matter.) before he turns into celestial.
@@lucygooseable but keep in mind we are talking about the fight before he gets the time stone
Ultron could definitely build spaceships... but yeah he isn't as much of a threat then. Because while he is networked and has access to anything on that network.. it's still ONLY the human network on earth. He would need to figure out the access to alien networks on a case-by-case basis, al whle being actively fought (while he has built to interface with earth's network from the get go, being basically willingly given access to it)
That, and some races like the Asgardian don't even seem to have netoworks at all for Ultron to take over. A spaceborn Ultron is only as much as a threat than the size of the fleet he manages to build basically. (though being a machine that needs no rest, food, administrative BS or even need to train crew to deal with, I could see him rapidly build up some massive fleets)
Just missing a certain Laufeyson, good Loki may have died, but Evil Loki assuming that he teamed up with Hela in Ragnarok instead of Thor, would sent in an illusion pretending to be the real thing, get in at least one cheap shot from a distance before faking his death and running off somewhere.
Imagine if in the final battle of avengers endgame thanos brings in all the mcu villains to fight the avengers 🤩🤩🤩
Genuinely a fire concept that was well executed, keep up the good work 👑
funny thing is the reverse may be more likely to happen, maybe Thanos and Ultron team up to take down Hela seeing what a threat she is, before of course betraying each other.
Villains fighting or working with other villains is always so great because of those wild card factors. Villains are always stronger because they’re usually meant to be fighting multiple heroes at once if not an entire team, so teaming them up automatically gives them the advantage in power. But then you consider that they’re all insane, backstabbing selfish shortsighted megalomaniacs for all their own reasons and they’d scheme and betray each other- if not just outright try to kill each other from the start. It would be so fascinating to watch unfold and see how these separate villains all played off each other
Man if they made a movie out of this is see it in a heart beat. Thanos taking on ego, abomination, and hela would be some sick ass fights
And also the lizard and rhino
Nvm bcs they're not mcu what about surtur
And an upgraded Ultron.
I would pay good money to see this as a 'What If' scenario in the upcoming 'What If' series or just in any way.
Thanos had the Power, Space, Reality and Soul stone. If he wanted to he could have finished the titan fight in an instant. He knew Strange had the Time stone and didnt want to kill them before retrieving it. No mcu villains would stand a chance against Thanos with 4 infinity stones, except perhaps Dormammu.
Seconded... No matter what forces arrayed against him... He could just turn them into flesh slinkies. The only way this works is if he had less stones or none.
Time Stone alone was technically enough to defeat Dormammu
Dude if you had any infinity stone and used it correctly you could win any fight take for instance time stone boom everyones a baby fight ended reality stone boom everyone thinks they won the fight boom fight ended space stone black hole in everyones brains boom fight ended the infinity stones can literally do about anything
Dormammu would murder him. Hela can stand toe to toe
@@ThePipojp Time stone only stalemated Dormammu, and Thanos didn't have time stone on titan.