Strauss - Till Eulenspiegel (Rehearsal) - Celibidache, SRSO (1965) English Subtitles
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- Richard Strauss - Till Eulenspiegels lustige Streiche op. 28 (Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks)
Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Sergiu Celibidache, 1965
Rehearsal in German, with English subtitles
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every rehearsal is a lesson. Celi is never tired to explain how does he understand,and is a awesome lesson of musicality, the result shall be a jewel or nothing
He was so personal, with a very strong character and a very personal vision of music. He loved so much rehearsals. He was the opposite from Karajan or Toscanini. One of the most brilliant conductors.
He's wonderful~! So involved~! So passionate~! So animated~! I really enjoyed this~!
Fabulous rehearsal skills. I could listen to this many times and gain insight each and every time.
I just love his instructions to the string players - bowing, sweet but not sentimental and so on. Just lovely!!
Mark Osborne It is because he loved so much teaching . He was an amazing music teacher. And we can see it in his rehearsals.
fantastic!!!!!! such a Genius Celibidache was....:-)) and not to forget the Genius Richard Strauss.....who gave us this absolutely genius Masterpiece....thx for posting this Rehearsal Jewel:-))
Orchestral rehearsal torture! No wonder they despised the man.
What an inspiring person 🙏That really makes me miss the orchestra rehearsals which are canceled due to Corona
Augh! Yeah
MUZICA!!!
Sergiu Celibidache expresia genialitatii romanesti. He loved the music. Was a great man.
The most brilliant conductor in the 20th century...
in ANY Century!
Look at his magic hands and fingers❤️
@@thebeekeeper4239 Like that rehearsal of Böhm rehearsing the Vienna Philharmonic in Strauss's Don Juan. These conductors must have driven their orchestras crazy, such are the demands and level of hearing, and almost nothing good enough. Stop a rehearsal 400 times. They play 2 notes, and these conductors stop. NO! Yes, they get fantastic results, but probably drive the players to see a psychiatrist.
The most overrated for sure.
Wilhelm Furtwängler
This is pure Gold! Thank you
Incredible! Amazing!
11:37 Lol celi predicted COVID 🤣
Thanks for all of it especially the English subtitles....wonderful!
At last, this wonderful rehearsal with subtitles, danke!
Thank you for sharing this. It offered a great insight to how a performance is built. People who say conductors do not do anything really need to see these rehearsals.
Douglas Kryder people who say that conductors dont do anything are simply foolish people. But It is a fact that Celi was very obssessive with rehearsals.
@@tequiness061 he aimed the perfect sounds
Amazing ! Fantastic !
Simply amazing.
Perfekte, allzu perfekte Erziehung!
For everyone's information, this video starts at Epilog (26 bars from the end of the piece). Then at 9:38, goes back to 1 bar before rehearsal number 21, as mentioned in the video. Also, the concert is here: th-cam.com/video/-sZyR3Xo5Fg/w-d-xo.html
By the way the executioner's "muffled" snare drum indication meant without the snares on. All the major conductors knew that.
What fun. I have always enjoyed this piece. This is magical.
Thanks for the subtitles!
Genius!
THANK you !!!
Thank you very much !
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ありがたい😏。
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He was the best conductor of the 20 century! I do admire his working on the music by details. Only Smart people can rehears without the score and working with such a power by looking to the details. Unfortunately Celibidache was not accepted by the orchestra, they didn't like him. It is true that orchestra needs a strong discipline, a very strong obedient attitude and skills, to listen the conductor, follow the conductor, and listen the other players too. Celibidache knew exactly what it is needed to have a very good rehearsal by growing the level of the entire orchestra. He had to be a tiranic conductor sometimes, because he knew the truth of human obedience, if he becomes extremely friendly with the orchestra they will never accept his ideas of working very hard, intense and smart. If he would accept all the members of the orchestra play in their own style, and play the way they want, the entire rehearsal would be a disaster and the music would never sound right. Celibidache did not want that. So that's why sometimes he was very demanding with a tiranic attitude, to avoid the dilettante rule the music.
Bravo !
In other words, he wanted the best out of everybody.
27:35 - they should have accepted him after that.
Много слов, правильных.....но,атмосфера ? Дергает ,зажимает
I think of Till Eulenspiegel as Ernest T. Bass from Andy Griffith.
💗💗💗
My God he was a baby here!
He still looks like he is 60
11:02 - 11:14 That’s it
No score. Amazing.
I watched Boulez rehearse Rite of Spring with the Oberlin Orchestra in 1971, with no score in front of him. Called out rehearsal numbers, even.
Notes for mself
12:00 Oboe risata
Nearly every time he asks for a softer dynamic his hands are above his head. Sometimes an orchestra can get into a good groove if you just let them play a little. This rehearsal is less about Strauss and Til than it is about Celi's obsession with his own interpretation. Throughly nerve-wracking. Had he been less self obsessed and had better stick technique he would not have needed all that extra rehearsal time.
27:33 :)
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Where I can watch the full rehearsal?
It is the full rehearsal
imo this approach to rehearsal is counterproductive. His extremely fussy demands regarding every detail can't possibly be memorized by the musicians and in many cases don''t really matter. They will just tend to inhibit the flow of the music as the orchestra struggles to recall every detail. All sense of spontaneity will be lost, regardless of anything he says in rehearsal.
That's exactly my sentiments. When a conductor gets too fussy like that, after a certain point, I just kind of tune him / her / out, and not take it too seriously, and then just do the notes. If I tried to internalize it all and remember it, it would destroy the spontenaity.. Nobody, in actual performance, would probably know the difference anyway. John Green once said during a rehearsal: "read the score and play the notes, people."
He could save time if his stick technique communicated what he says verbally.
He couldn't save that much time could he ? The score is really hard to play, musicians really have to be focused on their notes rather than having an eye on their score the other on Celi. By speaking while they are playing he comes to them instead of excepting the orchestra to look at him.
@@gabrielkaz5250 Till is one of the most played of Strauss' tone poems. I think the Stuttgart Radio Orchestra knows this well enough to keep their eye on the music and the conductor at the same time. I should know , I've played in orchestras for 60 years. Put it this way, a conductor doesn't have to talk so much if he/she can communicate mainly with the baton or hands. I've seen it. I've also seen the other.
@@muslit Well, I can't really argue with your experience but technically, listening to all the « tips » Celibidache gives, it seems rather insanely hard to transpose these words with two arms and a stick... And if theorically possible, it must demands a capacity from the conductor to anticipate everything he could say... But aren't Celibidache's words the consequences of what he heard ? Then it's about listening to the orchestra THEN saying whay you think is wrong in their playing. But if you only use your gesture, I don't get how you could react visually to what you heard. I know I repeat myself but I think that the gesture is all about anticipating, so you the conductor should succed to transcribe any articulation, nuance, also every entries etc. In his gesture.
@@gabrielkaz5250 It's amazing what a conductor can do without reverting to the spoken word (Abbado). Well, I think C liked to talk, and I think that was in keeping with his character. Some have also called him a control freak. I would have to say that the musical results on his later video appearances are not particularly spontaneous sounding, compared with the earlier ones. Bernstein was a much more collaborative/interpretive conductor. He allowed a player or section more freedom, even though he had very specific ideas about how the music should go, which he generally communicated with his stick (and when necessary, voice). C was more of the Toscanini, Reiner, Szell school, albeit slower in his tempos.
It might also be played for the camera a little bit. Nonetheless it’s very interesting to hear what he is saying.
With infinitely less talk than Celibidache, Klemperer extricated from the Philarmonia the best interpretation ever put on record of this masterpiece. Many call this kind of conducting "genial"; I personally find it tiresome.
tiresome to the uneducated for sure
Agree I wants to shows too much not natural and they can t play ..much better true and natural the Strauss versionp
Maybe it‘s the mother of genius.
@@roberts932 -- At best, it's its cousin... 😉
Nah, Haitink's Till on Phillips is the best.
この、やせてるおじさんは一体だれ？？？
Uhm..
Wants to be somebody ....
Interessant zu sehen was in Stuttgart war, bevor Kleiber hierher kam. Ich wüsste natürlich zu gern, ob die Beiden sich trafen und wie sie zueinander standen. Ihre Art, Musik zu machen, war ja nun wirklich eine ganz andere. Für mich steht Kleiber zwar definitiv in einer unerreichten - und wohl auch unerreichbaren - Klasse. Aber Celibidache´s Musik spricht auch an, auf einer anderen Ebene. Wissen Sie zufällig etwas über eine Begegnung der Beiden?
Fritz Maisenbacher he is somebody. The greatest
@@thomaskunze8196 Yes, i'll be short in these, but they met or ''bumped into eachother'' in a plane, which was going to Münich or Zürich from Japan. Celibidache und the Münich Phil Orchestra where coming from a tour and C.Kleiber was coming from a personal trip. Both conductors where on first class and they pretended not to have seen eachother, later on, some members of the orchestra encouraged the old Celibidache to start the conversation; he did, and ''asked'' Kleiber ''why did he had to conduct everything so fast, in which way he never experienced the real sound of the music'', the answer from Carlos wasn't heard by the musicians of the orchestra, but then Carlos went to the back of the plane to smoke a cigarette. This is explained on the following book, which i really recomend if you like Carlos Kleiber
( www.amazon.com/Corresponding-Carlos-Biography-Kleiber-ebook/dp/B0076M4UC4/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=carlos+kleiber&qid=1590364043&sr=8-10)
Hope it helps to know a little bit more about it :)
I'm not saying he was a bad conductor and he surely has his well-deserved place in history.
However, he is unbearable, each correction is a 2 or 3 minute speech, an incredible amount of rehearsals that were more useful to him than to the orchestra, bow instructions from someone who does not know how to play a string instrument and not to mention the extremely slow tempi... For me he has always been an overrated conductor.
I know from first sources that no orchestra wanted him and that they kept him because he gave them a certain fame.
Young or old, I never liked him.
He is not treating musicians as equal. Too much dominating. I would be so tired under his manner of dictating.
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