Is It Right to Grill the Real Life Martha from Baby Reindeer? | Debate

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  • Last night, a woman claiming to be the real-life Martha, lawyer Fiona Harvey was interviewed by Piers Morgan after the hit Netflix show Baby Reindeer was released last month. Some have called the interview irresponsible, but others say she has the right to tell what she says is her side of the story. Is it right to grill Martha, the real-life stalker from the hit drama Baby Reindeer?
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  • @elenapoe3424
    @elenapoe3424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Don't give voice to a stalker, male or female. Full stop.

    • @joshwalter5009
      @joshwalter5009 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      No. I'd like to hear it. It's fascinating. Full stop

    • @fashunpuss6279
      @fashunpuss6279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What if Gadd is the stalker. Think about it.

    • @elenapoe3424
      @elenapoe3424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fashunpuss6279 The Police already thought about it with the collected evidences.

    • @CasualLaugh
      @CasualLaugh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good. Then it should be easy to prove who's lying.

    • @wajn4785
      @wajn4785 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It might not be her, might be someone else. They did say we changed the person name and looks etc, I'm paraphrasing to protect the person's identity and she happens to know him and everyone is jumping on the band wagon.

  • @RandomVideosFirst
    @RandomVideosFirst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    'I don’t think, I sent him anything '
    SEnT fOm iPhoN

    • @elleema8357
      @elleema8357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂

  • @hollygd9020
    @hollygd9020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    How does this woman still get called in to speak on anything. She’s an absolute nightmare no matter the topic.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe she said SHE contacted Piers

    • @user-dt3rj8qm3k
      @user-dt3rj8qm3k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She doesn't know when or how to stop talking

  • @paulio2129
    @paulio2129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Allow me to finish please, allow me to just finish please then goes and talks over the other lady. Deluded narcissist at its finest!

    • @zaxose4100
      @zaxose4100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was thinking the same haha

    • @vekkstar
      @vekkstar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No she's a white woman that interrupted and had no valid points. Iman was being passionate and there was little time.

    • @catsaremylife8946
      @catsaremylife8946 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She does that on every interview - she's never wrong in her mind! Will never have a discussion just wants her points to be accepted.

  • @elleema8357
    @elleema8357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So it’s Netflix’s and Gadd’s fault that the internet is full of detectives, judges, jury’s and executioners?
    🙄

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. It's 2024. They know exactly what they're doing.

    • @elleema8357
      @elleema8357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mobwatch8119 well she shouldn’t be a stalker then, simple! Maybe this will act as a deterrent for fellow stalkers. There’s always several messages within a message.

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elleema8357 Of course she shouldn't (if she ever was). But they shouldn't normalise blending facts and fiction and linking them both to a private individual. They now have a moral duty to clarify what was real and what was fictitious. But I doubt they will.

    • @elleema8357
      @elleema8357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mobwatch8119 that’s true, they do have a moral duty to separate the fact from the fiction.

    • @zactacon
      @zactacon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elleema8357yeah well as the show clearly shows she went to jail and did her time for the crime. Or was Netflix lieing about this? Still defamation to say she was a convicted criminal when they haven’t brought any evidence of the emails or anything about her multiple sentences

  • @helendavies4758
    @helendavies4758 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    She needs to be compensated for all of this. Everyone is cashing in on her, it's not right!

  • @DisenfranchisedLiberal
    @DisenfranchisedLiberal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well, she wanted to do it. Piers, of course, agreed. Why wouldn't he? I imagine it's received a ton of views.

    • @becksford589
      @becksford589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      10 million now😂😊

  • @petrocism
    @petrocism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Why does anyone describe it as a comedy?

    • @TheGamezone519
      @TheGamezone519 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely not a comedy.

  • @Nicesnake
    @Nicesnake 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I don’t think Netflix protected her identity, the actor and the real Fiona, look similar, sound similar and act so similar

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed, Netflix ought to have been aware this was likely to happen

    • @Nicesnake
      @Nicesnake 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@snowball1988 plus, you can see all her old tweets to Richard gadd, she was easily found

    • @lewisbush9566
      @lewisbush9566 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just Good acting then🤷‍♀️

    • @Jamesgreggy
      @Jamesgreggy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@snowball1988 now I'm watching the show. Free advertising for Netflix. Maybe they predicted that

  • @asbisi
    @asbisi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    About the series, I watched the first episode without knowing much about the case.
    Later I found out that Richard Gadd PLAYS HIMSELF. I am not sure I want to see the rest, I find it off putting he plays himself, I don´t trust him.

    • @fashunpuss6279
      @fashunpuss6279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me either. I’m thinking he might be the stalker. Think about it.

    • @asbisi
      @asbisi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think people in general are too quick to buy his story, hook, line and sinker. He seems very iffy to me.

  • @TEE_PIK
    @TEE_PIK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why would does everybody have a problem with this?? Media speak about interesting topics like this and then people are angry because they aren’t talking about every person that’s been stalked ever lol

  • @nataschalebon
    @nataschalebon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why hasn't he released the facts ??Iits really easy to see if someone spent time in jail come on ,so if hes lying about that what else is he lying about ?

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 He already said she was never arrested

  • @joeanna1100
    @joeanna1100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    leave the poor woman alone. bullys. richard gadd wants money fame. piers making a living out of mentally ill now ????

    • @bingusslingus7020
      @bingusslingus7020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This writing style looks familiar 🫣

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She threatened a child.

  • @daveclarke8913
    @daveclarke8913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    She was brilliant as that psychopathic nurse in the film.. Misery 😮

    • @Sept1973
      @Sept1973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes she so reminded me of the Misery character.

  • @nicholasrobinson5508
    @nicholasrobinson5508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    no, if the sexes were reversed there wouldn't be sympathy and we wouldn't care his side of the story rightly so, stop humanising her

    • @silverstarlight9395
      @silverstarlight9395 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Prince Andrew was invited for an interview.

    • @BIGCHUNGUSESUNITED
      @BIGCHUNGUSESUNITED 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@silverstarlight9395IKR???

    • @angelbedolla347
      @angelbedolla347 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silverstarlight9395royalty! Oh yes a fair comparison indeed.

  • @ghostophelia2245
    @ghostophelia2245 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    She has a right to speak, but she shouldve been vetted better and been actually confronted with fact instead of how wishy washy piers was

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was clear he had done very little research & was just playing a he said she said rather than getting to the truth

  • @karenellis3039
    @karenellis3039 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Fiona came forward she did not look uncomfortable she looked like she was lying………

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have looked that way defending myself when someone is bombarding me with accusations. too. And he bombarded her with questions...one after another.

  • @deedee7733
    @deedee7733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Annoyed that the Scottish guest was talked over by the other contributer. I wanted to know what she had to say.

    • @phily8093
      @phily8093 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This other guest never does allow others to speak. She's a like a bouncing jack in the box of barely supressed anger and contempt, whatever subject matter she is wheeled on to be a talking head for.

  • @patallen5461
    @patallen5461 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Poor woman's mad as a box of frogs.

    • @nataschalebon
      @nataschalebon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where's the Prof ?? Show me

  • @anton__84
    @anton__84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    There’s no proof either way who is telling the truth but if she is right in what she’s saying she should go to court.

    • @fashunpuss6279
      @fashunpuss6279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope she does and I hope it’s televised!

  • @MeanEileen916
    @MeanEileen916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EXPOSING STALKERS IS A GOOD DETERRENT. She exposed herself and how much of a danger to society she is.

  • @MayThereBeWorldPeace
    @MayThereBeWorldPeace 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Iman's head tilt and expression and attitude is quite rude!!

  • @pamelsims2068
    @pamelsims2068 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did I hear correctly? "Every person has the right to reply..... but the ones who get the right to reply don't do it in a decent way.... therefore we should prejudge and control acceptable and non acceptable methods and deny some on the grounds that some people object!

  • @jbri1
    @jbri1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Is she mental saying it's not exploiting Harvey? Piers Morgan thinks she's guilty i.e. also mentally ill, and he chose to grill her in front of a large audience, for his own gain. Simple.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      she said SHE contacted him

  • @BONAF1DE1
    @BONAF1DE1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Head full of broken biscuits

    • @Nash0303
      @Nash0303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol what a phrase

    • @RobertBoyle11
      @RobertBoyle11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mad as a jar of wasps

  • @drinkwater9891
    @drinkwater9891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    this is like bullying, the power of netflix and some guy vs some random woman, its just wrong, worse than jeremy kyle

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agreed, it's very one-sided. It's not fair people are expecting Fiona to stay quiet/hidden away when Richard and Netflix have made a whole television series off it and all the revenue and got their version out there first

    • @zaxose4100
      @zaxose4100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But if it were a man you'd be saying he needs jailed -YAWN-

    • @drinkwater9891
      @drinkwater9891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zaxose4100 no i protected jimee savyle like sir keer stahma

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still give her the benefit of the doubt until the evidence comes out but so far The woman couldn't hold one coherent truth together to save her life😂 She only met him "6 times" yet she sent him about 10 emails but she never explained where she got his email from if I was being accused of stalking that's the first thing I'd clarify, she done a "regular law degree" but when Piers repeatedly asked what she got she didn't know what he's talking about, she managed to keep detecting that she's Martha from the comedy show he done years ago when he wasn't successful but why would she know or even remotely assume he's talking about her when he talked about a woman who stalked him, sent him 41k emails & assaulted him? It's an admission atp, same with Darrien why would any man assume he's darrien unless he acc did SA him? & the list goes on.

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Destiny.Hassan Bear in mind that this allegedly happened more than a decade ago. Do you have a clear memory of every single communication with a temporary acquaintance 10+ years ago? I don't.
      He made her the centre of his autobiographical show, so many years later, because the audience loves a story about a deranged woman, especially if they can bully her in real life. It sells.
      The shtick about him being motivated by her "need for help" is so blatantly false. How many years have gone by since their last interaction? She was a convenient prop to exaggerate with fictitious elements like criminal convictions she didn't have.

  • @frankwalders
    @frankwalders 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sorry this lady with the lipstick is so sick, Pierce his interview was with someone 'if proofen true' what is actually pretty easy to find out, who's life is completely destroyed. How void of any empathy do you have te be to not see that.

  • @JamieWilliams-f6i
    @JamieWilliams-f6i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very difficult to make her look and sound different. Let me tell you why - it is these characteristics that make the character Martha so vulnerable

  • @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB
    @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    ITV hating on PM 😂👀

    • @jewelssunsun9450
      @jewelssunsun9450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly. What a different story it would be if he still worked for them...

  • @jamesconlin5099
    @jamesconlin5099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Short answer yes

  • @CravingSolitude
    @CravingSolitude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine if it was the other way round and the sexes were reversed.

  • @iDalisMediaTV
    @iDalisMediaTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a former broadcast journalist and it was completely irresponsible to interview her without her counsel or rep present to help her navigate this intense grilling from Piers. We really need someone or an organization to keep the internet safer. We need a new set of rules as its apparent even seasoned broadcast journalists who should have taken an oath to serve the public and mankind at the highest level of integrity would side step this responsibility as Piers did.

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 OK normie

  • @fashunpuss6279
    @fashunpuss6279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The issue is if it’s true or not. Simple. That’s what a defamation case pivots on. And since they’ve called it “a true story” they’ve opened themselves up to losing.

  • @AM2K2
    @AM2K2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating 4 minute clip...no wonder TV is dying

  • @Banks040
    @Banks040 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    If Fiona/ Martha ends her life because of all this .. Its on Richard and Netflix’s

    • @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB
      @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      💯 agree with you but you know the media will blame PM 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @mariannehavisham8323
      @mariannehavisham8323 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He was the victim. He isn't responsible for her actions. It's art and they say write what you know.. he has every right to pour his pain into his writing -that is what artists/creatives have always done!

    • @silverstarlight9395
      @silverstarlight9395 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She's not going to do anything like that. She loves herself too much to do that.

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yh its totally not on the mental health services & authority in this country who have been failing this womans mental health for more than 2 decades which lead to all this...

  • @VengaBusIsComin
    @VengaBusIsComin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As soon as I see Imarn all I hear in my head is "let me finish" - wonder how many times she'll say it in this video

  • @MayThereBeWorldPeace
    @MayThereBeWorldPeace 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glamourized? There is nothing glamorous about it. Piers did nothing wrong!!

    • @angelbedolla347
      @angelbedolla347 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t confront her with facts what so ever as he usually does.

    • @cgray8267
      @cgray8267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@angelbedolla347He did …the facts as we know , emails ? And correspondence numbers ? We have NO facts other than here say on both sides.

  • @tas22222
    @tas22222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How was she found and what if it ISNT her. Shame on them all. Internet sleuths found her supposedly ! IF she is the stalker she wants her share of the MONEY ! !

  • @Lsa238
    @Lsa238 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Piers doesn’t care about the victim nor the perpetrator; he only cares about views.

  • @MeanEileen916
    @MeanEileen916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you give Imayn a platform? It’s insulting.

  • @RyanRyann28
    @RyanRyann28 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yes

  • @jettstap
    @jettstap 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should not give these people any oxygen she is back in the stalking game that is why she has revealed her identity

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Susan Boyle has gone wrong...

  • @daveclarke8913
    @daveclarke8913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She only came back out of the woodwork with a view to making herself a few bob🙄

    • @TrebleSum
      @TrebleSum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Why not? Netflix & Gadd have made a mint. Fiona was not charged nor went to prison. If Gadd lied about that what else did they? They should have just said it was based on a true story & not a "true story". If they've defamed this woman I hope they get sued.

    • @daveclarke8913
      @daveclarke8913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrebleSum I wasn't disagreeing

  • @joeanna1100
    @joeanna1100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    iman well said calire trys to skirt around the real issue which is piers explioting the vunerable

  • @sugarsteeler1293
    @sugarsteeler1293 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do not invite commentators who contributing nothing to the conversation but disrespect fellow guests and ram her personal distorted thoughts down our throats. Her demeanor is triggering and her opinions are dumb. If you want to continue losing viewers, Good Morning Britain,, then continue to have her in. Did you invite her because you wanted to spite Piers Morgan?

  • @mysticjen379
    @mysticjen379 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    None of it has been proven yet, though. People are taking his word for it!

  • @victoriatoulmin958
    @victoriatoulmin958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was a very interesting watch her interview and hearing her side but at the same time I can’t stop thinking that if it was a man stalking a woman and assaulting her we wouldn’t be putting him on a stage to tell his side

  • @lynnhubbard844
    @lynnhubbard844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when I watched Piers' interview with her last night, he had more than 4M views

  • @TIVOSTUDIOS
    @TIVOSTUDIOS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She got paid a lot of money to be on the show, and she sold her story in paid journals, people weren't sure if she was really like Martha, but by going on TV everybody now knows the TV show was factual

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How much was she paid? Do you know or are you just speculating? Also how much has Richard Gadd made off all this, but that's ok isn't it? Fiona hasn't been convicted of anything as far as we know so she is only an alleged perpetrator - not a convicted or charged perpetrator and that's quite unlike what the show portrays

    • @beckydavis4958
      @beckydavis4958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe she said she was paid 250 £ so not exactly a lot of money.

    • @TIVOSTUDIOS
      @TIVOSTUDIOS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@snowball1988 actually I think they are as good as each other, even if things happened as it was described he definitely fed her neuroses and her his, she did get paid, everybody that goes in shows like that is paid in the same way you would if you sell your story to a newspaper, is just the industry standard

  • @gavinbarnes6310
    @gavinbarnes6310 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m an looks ridiculous. The filler, the makeup, the hair…

    • @becksford589
      @becksford589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I said the same 😂😂

  • @georgefrancis8602
    @georgefrancis8602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kate looks nice!

  • @John-om6ld
    @John-om6ld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Peerless Piers has done it again.

  • @angelbedolla347
    @angelbedolla347 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol just image it was a guy

  • @eli1985
    @eli1985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stop inviting that loathsome Ayton; she is insufferable. She is angry with Morgan so...