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I've checked dmg with this bow on traning dummys on PTR with 350-150-150 split and full Dex/Con. In my supprise dmg on full Dex was higher. Not much but noticeble. So maybe 350-150-150 is not worth and better is to go tumbler boots with shirking heals on gear. What do you think?
This might be a dumb question, but what happens if you run a heavy armor build. I am new to the game and saw that you get 20 percent damage for light. But the difference between light and heavy is 1000 vs 3k resistance. 1. How much does 3k vs 1k damage resistance give? 2. Im not sure how absorption stacks onto resistance so that is part of the reason I wonder how much the damage matters can you clarify? 3. (is the 20 percent an empower or what is it for light build 20 percent considered?)
its a flat 20% damage boost not associated with empower. you also get better evade skill in light mode so it helps you keep distance from enemies. dont need high resistance if you can stay away from enemies.
If you are running medium or heavy equip load then you cannot dodge and move freely. This does not suit PVP at all for a role where kills and damage are your main focus. You will not be able to get away from a fight or dodge projectiles as easily, it will be kill or die, but mostly just die.
Light resists about 20% damage and heavy resists about 40% damage. But light also has a 20% damage buff which offsets the extra resistance that heavy gets. So effectively light deals the same damage to heavy that what heavy deals to light, except light also gets a super dodge. So AGS gives light huge benefits over heavy, plus most of the heavy armour artifacts are bad while light has 2 s tier artifacts…yeah AGS hates heavy armour users.
@@daveb7049 Since light and heavy have absorption would and it is a percent would light be better? So 1000 damage comes in armor eats 20 percent and absorption eats up 10 percent of the remaining? which would 10 percent of 800. But if 1000 comes on heavy it becomes 10 percent of 600? is that how that works or na?
Does runeglass and harnessing go over empower cap? Bow already mostly has 25% empower and + 10% conditional empower (+10m away from targer and targer under 50% hp) Will that you are usualy at around 35% empower already. So runeglass would make sense for up to 45% and max 3 pieces of harnessing for 50% empower. Or I am missing something?
@@Eidorian510 oh that’s awesome Don’t you think shirking heal is more valuable than health? As a perk (you get approximatively +1350hp with health while shirking heal can heal you for 1200+ for each successful attack dodge) So: Lightning harnessing Elem aversion Shirking heal
are you talking about the transmog? Its called the Pirated Bow skin - and im pretty sure it drops from the barnacles dungeon, but u can check under the transmog vendor
Taiyi rapier is also good, i made it already. Refreshing move and rogue locked in and i added pen backstab. That way you can get omni on gear. You lose 7% crit but gain cdr
Once this goes live and the meta shifts to counter it (if it isn't nerfed on release) Standard/split bow will see a rise in damage without question. Healers swapping to topaz and dropping a bit of thrust will do it. Ele over ward along with topaz slotted will be what's needed to counter it. Will be nice to have the option of playing standard again. The question will be if 350 int will be run and I think it will find a place. The damage will be higher then 350 dex for sure
Based on the screenshot they showed, it may not be able to scale off of int. On artifacts that scale off of stats other than their base one, they show it in the perk that tells you what element the damage is being converted to. The artifact bow passive shown does not mention a new scaling stat, and in the clip they showed the tester is playing it with dex. Of course, they could/should change it to scale off of int the way they do with anything else, but this is AGS so only time will tell.
How did you get that amulet? I've searched up in the nwdb but that amuler does not appear as a named item upgradeable to 700 :/ Or atleast I didn't see it
Only getting 1500-1600 extra health by running health and could be reducing %25 damage with conditioning. Got 3/5 pieces with it and it feels pretty good double stacking protections with ele/conditioning @@Eidorian510
If the stun isn't pvp Bows a DUD. Also, we lose 271 base damage, which all of our abilities are based on?. No? But I guess well see. Also it will take between 500k and a 1 mill to have everything crafted, depending on your server and craft level.
60% more scaling than syncretic on elemental damage Of the around 50% lightning/ele damage bonus (int passives, runeglass, harnessing, ring) = around a 30% damage increase over a normal split gem ele bow. Definitely not a DUD. its just another option. full testing this thursday. also, u only need optimal gear. BIS is the ultimate end goal you work for.
@@Eidorian510 So since it's not split we gain more damage via the intelligence attribute, and losing 271 base damage that our abilities are based off is ok? Not trolling, just asking if my thoughts are correct with your explaination? Are we sure it Scales off intelligence attributes?
for bow converting thrust into lightning its enough to make it broken ... with the other 20% lightning bonus and the stun makes it the most broken weapon in NW history only close to exploited weapons as hatchet or IG on the beggining of the game . This will certainly be nerfed ... even before release
BROOOOO !! JESUS CRIST.... I guess it got seriously nerfed cause i cant reach that damage by any means man, i tried everything... tops was 4.5k ... sooometimes a 5 k? to a low gs light i guess.. headshot. But man bow is so damn ruined now, im im doing the same as u do... 350 150 100 ... with nautres brath... it just doesnt work man, im not really getting much more damage and i get killed with 3 bullets of a musket.. or just a basic and a fireball... im so frustrated... Thing is a just started to play pvp like may be 2 months ago... and im strugeling... I aboslutely love bow bro, its just... im not even having much fun anymore... its bugged everywhere... i have videos where you can see the arrow shot in diagonal up ... totally fucked up... i have so many moments where im like "MAN why am i not hitting right now!?" .... What do you think about all this..?? I think its only in OPR and 3v3 .... Dude, i wanna learn, ive just chosen you as my mentor... im gonna watch you... subscribe and what ever helps you.
i dont think thats a good bow at all, 2nd special perk is obviously "you stun people if they are full health when you hit. "that ags was talking about. Dot dmg is what makes bow op right now, I like the stun perk but honestly i dont think it will be good, who ever i saw ice build have weaker damage then i do with the regular dot dmg build in opr, and sometimes i play 50 con 500 dex 50 str bcz of heavy light attacks i deal around 7k-8k with the dots maybe even more i cannot even calculate.But ofcourse we will see what will happen.
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I've checked dmg with this bow on traning dummys on PTR with 350-150-150 split and full Dex/Con. In my supprise dmg on full Dex was higher. Not much but noticeble. So maybe 350-150-150 is not worth and better is to go tumbler boots with shirking heals on gear. What do you think?
Is the ice damage build still good? I don’t have any gold to buy this new lightning build :(
you can farm lifering rapier at the top of Tor Mallacht
just kill the mob there, can be soloed, 6 min respawn
Yeah with the conversion gem while having split stats with dex and int along with this bow artifact is gonna be crazy
How to drop the 700 gs chest and boot piece? I cant find it on nwdb to drop or upgrade.
Were do you get the bow.
This might be a dumb question, but what happens if you run a heavy armor build. I am new to the game and saw that you get 20 percent damage for light. But the difference between light and heavy is 1000 vs 3k resistance. 1. How much does 3k vs 1k damage resistance give? 2. Im not sure how absorption stacks onto resistance so that is part of the reason I wonder how much the damage matters can you clarify? 3. (is the 20 percent an empower or what is it for light build 20 percent considered?)
its a flat 20% damage boost not associated with empower. you also get better evade skill in light mode so it helps you keep distance from enemies. dont need high resistance if you can stay away from enemies.
If you are running medium or heavy equip load then you cannot dodge and move freely. This does not suit PVP at all for a role where kills and damage are your main focus. You will not be able to get away from a fight or dodge projectiles as easily, it will be kill or die, but mostly just die.
Light resists about 20% damage and heavy resists about 40% damage. But light also has a 20% damage buff which offsets the extra resistance that heavy gets. So effectively light deals the same damage to heavy that what heavy deals to light, except light also gets a super dodge. So AGS gives light huge benefits over heavy, plus most of the heavy armour artifacts are bad while light has 2 s tier artifacts…yeah AGS hates heavy armour users.
@@daveb7049 Since light and heavy have absorption would and it is a percent would light be better? So 1000 damage comes in armor eats 20 percent and absorption eats up 10 percent of the remaining? which would 10 percent of 800. But if 1000 comes on heavy it becomes 10 percent of 600? is that how that works or na?
@@daveb7049 actually light is so bad now, while med/heavy melee with those stuns just click click click, and u cannot do nothing. at least on arena
why not 350 int since elemental gem makes weapon scale INT? (If it's higher) please correct me If I'm wrong
Does runeglass and harnessing go over empower cap? Bow already mostly has 25% empower and + 10% conditional empower (+10m away from targer and targer under 50% hp)
Will that you are usualy at around 35% empower already. So runeglass would make sense for up to 45% and max 3 pieces of harnessing for 50% empower.
Or I am missing something?
At the end, are you just hitting people that have 0 resis to you bow/armor? like I hit people for 2k on a good day with about the same ice build lol
Woudn't the +20% electrical damage on the bow artifact count toward the empowerment cap? therefore no need for that much lightning harnessing?
nah it doesnt count - its a base damage amplification
@@Eidorian510 oh that’s awesome
Don’t you think shirking heal is more valuable than health? As a perk (you get approximatively +1350hp with health while shirking heal can heal you for 1200+ for each successful attack dodge)
So:
Lightning harnessing
Elem aversion
Shirking heal
Any idea on when the Boltcaster will be released to live servers?
28 days
I was getting a bunch of peices of lightning harnessing from m2 barnacles . Not just deep river
Does the keenly jaged on one weapon have an effect on other weapons, when we have crit hit on another weapon that doesn't have keenly jaged?
Where does the bow drop or where do you get it? Been looking for a build that matches my style and personality and this looks like a good fit! thanks!
are you talking about the transmog? Its called the Pirated Bow skin - and im pretty sure it drops from the barnacles dungeon, but u can check under the transmog vendor
@@Eidorian510 was talking about the bowcaster artifact. Sorry. 😆
@@boardrider1219 Haha its all good. not out yet, next season. ill be playing it live on thr PTR today tho
Wouldnt 7% more thrust damage on ring be better then ice ?
Taiyi rapier is also good, i made it already. Refreshing move and rogue locked in and i added pen backstab. That way you can get omni on gear. You lose 7% crit but gain cdr
How do you make it ?
@@saintek9236 you farm the rapier from named mobs in ebonscale reach. Search new world database "Taiyi Rapier"
Once this goes live and the meta shifts to counter it (if it isn't nerfed on release) Standard/split bow will see a rise in damage without question. Healers swapping to topaz and dropping a bit of thrust will do it. Ele over ward along with topaz slotted will be what's needed to counter it. Will be nice to have the option of playing standard again. The question will be if 350 int will be run and I think it will find a place. The damage will be higher then 350 dex for sure
Based on the screenshot they showed, it may not be able to scale off of int. On artifacts that scale off of stats other than their base one, they show it in the perk that tells you what element the damage is being converted to. The artifact bow passive shown does not mention a new scaling stat, and in the clip they showed the tester is playing it with dex.
Of course, they could/should change it to scale off of int the way they do with anything else, but this is AGS so only time will tell.
Scales with dex then converts to lightning, not lightning damage base
@@Droidicus So intelligence attributes do not work with this bow then?
@@bobdemyer9887 it’s still elemental damage whether it scales with or int or not so the 100/150 nodes work
@@Droidicus OK ty. So confusing 😕
Is the ice archer build dead now with the updates to gem conversion in the most recent patch notes? Also would this be viable still?
nah its still viable, im assuming the lightning bow is gonna be strong as shit but bow variants are important.
I think u forgot to mention the +20% lightning damage of the artifact bow on the empower cap calculation.
Nice vid as always dorian!
were not sure if that counts towards empower because it doesnt for the hammer, just flat dmg
How did you get that amulet? I've searched up in the nwdb but that amuler does not appear as a named item upgradeable to 700 :/
Or atleast I didn't see it
champions? its off pvp track
@@Eidorian510 ty
Wait can you still dolphin dive? I thought it got removed
got added back in season 3
I thought it was runeglass counted to empower cap but harnessing counted to base damage?
going to test it all with upcoming ptr
When’s this gong to release?
december 12th i believe
Great vid!
Thoughts on conditioning over health?
actually think its viable and i rlly do wanna run it, full build guide this weekend
Only getting 1500-1600 extra health by running health and could be reducing %25 damage with conditioning. Got 3/5 pieces with it and it feels pretty good double stacking protections with ele/conditioning
@@Eidorian510
Insane montage! What's the skin on that bow? I love it!
Pirated Bow Skin
Do we know when it comes out and how we can obtain it?
it comes out in season 4 on Dec 14. how, we dont know yet
Hello from Thailand. i love all your video thank for all this guild. In season 4 u will change your gear bro?
Thoughts about this rapier: refreshing move, vicious, shirking lightning?
very good. try it
Bowpr here we go.
It was bowpr then gspr now is magepr.
Mad respect not using shirking heals bro
Whats damage difference from 350 int and 150 dex instead? To run with intelligence builds?
Seeing as it doesnt scale from INT anything past the 150 perk is probably a waste and loss in damage
@@preemptivefaceplant5277 the lightning is considered that? Got you I was confused
If the stun isn't pvp Bows a DUD. Also, we lose 271 base damage, which all of our abilities are based on?. No? But I guess well see. Also it will take between 500k and a 1 mill to have everything crafted, depending on your server and craft level.
60% more scaling than syncretic on elemental damage Of the
around 50% lightning/ele damage bonus (int passives, runeglass, harnessing, ring)
= around a 30% damage increase over a normal split gem ele bow. Definitely not a DUD. its just another option. full testing this thursday. also, u only need optimal gear. BIS is the ultimate end goal you work for.
Costing me 400k for armor including 5x adamant and inductors on valhalla, mats got very cheap
@@Droidicus Lucky you dude. 200k just for the adamant x5 on Maramma. Made Gloves last week cost me 225k.
@@Eidorian510 So since it's not split we gain more damage via the intelligence attribute, and losing 271 base damage that our abilities are based off is ok? Not trolling, just asking if my thoughts are correct with your explaination? Are we sure it Scales off intelligence attributes?
@@bobdemyer9887 yeah 200k for the adamant but cloth hit 125 and got all my ingots for 200, leather you just runic with MD fort
Thanks man!❤
Watching other YT vids peeps be asking for a nerf on Bow already jeez
hypeeeeeeeeeeee, ptr thurs lets go
This bow is going to fill opr with sadness
We don't even know if it's pvp based yet.
@@bobdemyer9887 It could be something ridiculously op as well, you never know with AGS..
i hope hope hope its not super busted
It only works on full health and doubt the stun lasts long
Creative director of the games favorite weapon is bow. Sick of now being op. It’s NEVER been weak
a lot of new quitters coming out after this, gg we really need another op bow to balance gameplay
for bow converting thrust into lightning its enough to make it broken ... with the other 20% lightning bonus and the stun makes it the most broken weapon in NW history only close to exploited weapons as hatchet or IG on the beggining of the game . This will certainly be nerfed ... even before release
i agree
BROOOOO !! JESUS CRIST.... I guess it got seriously nerfed cause i cant reach that damage by any means man, i tried everything... tops was 4.5k ... sooometimes a 5 k? to a low gs light i guess.. headshot. But man bow is so damn ruined now, im im doing the same as u do... 350 150 100 ... with nautres brath... it just doesnt work man, im not really getting much more damage and i get killed with 3 bullets of a musket.. or just a basic and a fireball... im so frustrated...
Thing is a just started to play pvp like may be 2 months ago... and im strugeling... I aboslutely love bow bro, its just... im not even having much fun anymore... its bugged everywhere... i have videos where you can see the arrow shot in diagonal up ... totally fucked up... i have so many moments where im like "MAN why am i not hitting right now!?" .... What do you think about all this..?? I think its only in OPR and 3v3 ....
Dude, i wanna learn, ive just chosen you as my mentor... im gonna watch you... subscribe and what ever helps you.
Bro your movements are NASTY. 🤮🥶
thsi is so awesome
Lets goooooooo
Why are you using dogwater pen shot
hear me out. Next saeason will break pvp. everybody will be rolling the stun bow or LS/DPS its not gonna be fun
i dont think thats a good bow at all, 2nd special perk is obviously "you stun people if they are full health when you hit. "that ags was talking about. Dot dmg is what makes bow op right now, I like the stun perk but honestly i dont think it will be good, who ever i saw ice build have weaker damage then i do with the regular dot dmg build in opr, and sometimes i play 50 con 500 dex 50 str bcz of heavy light attacks i deal around 7k-8k with the dots maybe even more i cannot even calculate.But ofcourse we will see what will happen.
Dude 50 str don't apply on bow ....
@@razvanbreazu4020yes it does
this build will outshine any other bow build if it stays like this and it wont be close. Also, burst bow counters dot bow if shots are hit.
Im not looking forward to this tbh. Gonna be too strong.
i mean if a dot is putting you below 100% which is almost constant in OPR. stun wont affect you. lightning is no different from nature builds
Enchanted ward > Elemental/physical aversion buddy. make a new vid you're giving wrong info to people
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