True enough, my FSD is so polite that it is behaving the way I normally drive. I was returning home from L.A. I was going up on I-5 and then my car slowed down. I didn't know why then I notice the semi=truck had it's left blinker on. The truck move in front of me and then make a pass and I eventually passed him. So cool and that's just one of many V12 that is so polite.
Please thank your Dad for making a shout out to us poor RHD markets, Australia and UK. I also hope FSD makes its way to use down under soon. As a consolation prize, we do have a CyberTruck in the country, I’m super excited to go check it out in a Tesla showroom while it is here (for a month).
I think what it did at 12:29 was crazy. It quickly decided it needed to change lanes, it signaled, driver behind gave some space and the car immediately took it. No hesitation.
If I buy a car I really don't care if they sell to China or wherever or who the CEO is, I do care if they have a car I like. I am happy you are enjoying FSD, someday I hope I can enjoy the technology.
Very nice drive and interesting discussion. I really like this kind of videos, to watch driving it and also have some commenting. Your dad's talk is also very informative. Thanks both of you!
Good video! I like the conversation with your dad too. I am in Canada 🇨🇦 and using fsd and ya it keeps getting better and it’s amazing how well it drives and handles all the different situations like bad weather, construction zones with new pavement and no lines.
Loved your dad’s conversations and thoughts with you. What a well spoken,man. I can see where you get your relaxed speaking style from…more of Omar and Whole Mars please!
18:15 what a ramble 😄 did your dad really say that he likes it when the car acts uncertain what to do because it feels more human-like? The technology is impressive by itself. The bugs it still has (and it definitely still has bugs) don’t need to be whitewashed.
I've seen the traffic chaos in India and China, with FSD all those problems would disappear. You'd get where you want faster, helping the economy, less stress, and most importantly, fewer accidents. IT' really is a win win.
This is great and thanks for posting. Love your dad’s insights. One request, any chance you can summarize some of the nuances and differences towards the end. Honestly love watching but sometimes can’t sit and watch everything and if you point to highlights one can jump there.
Hey Omar, do let us know your thoughts on Chuck Cooks’ experience with Unprotected Left Turns. He’s been experiencing a regressing pattern with every new update
Question: Do you always drive under "assertive" mode? And do you turn on automatic speed limit offset or you set a number/percentage yourself? My experience is if I turn on the automatic offset, sometimes it drives way too fast (like 48 mph in a 40 mph zone); but if I set it myself (like 8% over the speed limit), sometimes it drops way too slow (I've had it drop to around 35 on a local street where everybody drives at 45+ and 55 on the highway where everybody continues at 65+, and I don't recall seeing a speed limit sign change so I have no idea why it "saw" a speed limit sign change). Also, my 2024 model Y kind of ping-pongs within its lane on the highway, is it normal or should I have the camera recalibrated? Final question: does FSD perform the same across US or does it perform the best in CA?
Awesome video ❤ In Sweden 🇸🇪, I think in many other countries too we lose our license if we drive for instance 30km/h to fast. Also an incentive to drive in legal speeds.
One of the biggest things that should stand out to the people that want to continue to harp on Tesla, is the entire month of April has had free FSD for ALL Tesla cars that are capable of the tech. That is more than likely a HUGE number of new FSD cars being tested/used during the course of the month than usual, and yet, outside of a few early curb rubbing, there has not been an increase in Tesla related Crashes, Pedestrian accidents, etc. All of the people trying to get FSD banned always had to try and cheat and lie to make it look unsafe, where in reality its exactly the opposite. Is it Perfect? No not yet. But it is getting really dang close. Still working to get my own, but of the ones I have ridden in, the urge to get one only increases every time.
I just drove it 50 miles, and it's decent. Freeway is excellent on average, and ten over, it works right through traffic like a rockstar. AI driven speed limit control is terrible. If we had the last 11V speed control, I would be super happy. Tonight was the best exit off the freeway it's done. It seems to be tracking the lines more for staying centered. This last update I found it wondering into forks and left lane turns. It won't be long before I start riding from the passenger seat.
I tried Summon today and feel it's presently unusable. It just took forever and never did get to me. I then did tried Auto Park and got jammed into a tight spot in my garage....not cool. Seems parking lots are the easiest and best use of Auto Park at present. Anyway, 30 days up tomorrow and I subscribed for a month. I'll cancel before 30 days so I don't get charged another month. I just need more time with it to evaluate. Got an update today and went from version 12.3.4 to 12.3.6. Getting that update today influenced me enough to subscribe. NOTE: If this was still $199, I wouldn't have subscribed. QUESTION: I mentioned a few years ago that charging this much for FSD is a real problem for some people and charging money to make people safer is a can of worms that hasn't been addressed. When are we going to read a headline about a family killed in a crash because FSD software hadn't been renewed? Family financial difficulties making it impractical.
End of next year in certain locations under certain conditions for Cyber Cab seems very doable. Unlikely we'll see unsupervised FSD in today's vehicles by end of next year, but I've been wrong before.
Should allow voice 'commands'- like it was a Uber driver? Would be useful in ambiguous situations like automatic gates And strange drop off. Lane changes sometimes as you get into them, it may reveal more information so decision may change half way through the manoeuvre!
I’m a big fan of FSD. Can’t afford it yet, but I plan on buying it. With that said there are still big issues. Why do I keep seeing these successful drives on TH-cam but we’re not having successful drives with our 2023 hardware four model Y We had major issues just trying to get from 13533 Seal Beach Blvd Seal Beach, CA 90740 United States To 14305 Firestone Blvd La Mirada, CA 90638 United States Demonstrate that you have a successful drive. One major failure was, it failed to do the interchange from 405 south. To the 22 E It then rerouted got off. the next exit we had to take over after it could not figure it out after getting in the wrong lane. Another time it was 1.8 miles away from getting off seal Beach Boulevard and I decided to get into the left lane. We are having major planning issues that were seen. It fails to plan ahead.
Keeping tabs... Tesla fail: not creeping up to community gate to get it to open Tesla fail: didn't recorgnize stopped car without brake light, it was parked. It should have seen there are no cars in front of it as well, or possibly driven in mid between lanes for a few seconds (not giving up either lane) to make sure it's parked and not stopped. Tesla fail: didn't slow down for dip in road as going into parking lot Tesla fail: too close to large/protruding cars in parking lot. Had no cars around so no reason for it... Tesla fail: doesn't go straight to open gate, then jerks at last moment
V12 is starting to give me v11 vibs, the iterations are not moving forward enough, there are definitely regressions appearing, like the gate, it used to do that perfect. My opinion is only based on watching vids, there does seem to be a trend though.
At 17:45 my 12.3.6 is doing the same weird thing when coming up to a lane split. This is the first time I've seen this since v10, its never did it for me in all the places its doing it now. Overall 12.3.6 is pretty good, almost as good as the intiial 12.3
How come it's not prompting you to touch the steering wheel once in awhile? I remember that it did before but maybe the updated software version allows more hands off?
20:51 I wanted to point out that if you have auto offset on you can still adjust your speed manually if you adjust your speed like you do normally when you have it on regular offset and just wait for a couple of seconds it will adjust the speed th-cam.com/video/qaCUe_cY-qI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FgEh0stKGEnJFGic&t=332
HW 3 was designed with neural networks as its purpose. With the Ryzen it is more than capable. HW 5 is in development so I wouldn’t discount any of Tesla’s hardware choices. For all we know the semi is the purpose for hardware variants.
I don’t understand why your cars don’t nag you seemingly at all. I rented a 2021 Model Y last weekend to experiment with FSD and it nagged me almost constantly to “apply turning force”.
I really like when you have these drives while talking to your dad. Great conversation with both of your perspectives.
thank you😢
Agreed. Much more value in these drives and posts than those with only music over the top. Much rather less content but higher quality like this.
I like your dad's commentary. He sounds like an executive engineer
At Tesla
He is a software engineer
Your father is fantastic he speaks with a ray of common sense
Cool dad Omar :) lovely you have something to enjoy together. Life is now :)
Wish I'd been able to do this with my dad too. He'd have loved this level of mobility
True enough, my FSD is so polite that it is behaving the way I normally drive. I was returning home from L.A. I was going up on I-5 and then my car slowed down. I didn't know why then I notice the semi=truck had it's left blinker on. The truck move in front of me and then make a pass and I eventually passed him. So cool and that's just one of many V12 that is so polite.
My 12.3.6 now takes me where ever I need to go. The last 30 days improvements are astounding. Can't wait for the improvements in the next 30 days.
I like these father - son conversations during FSD drives. Nice Omar.
Great video dude. You're Dad's switched on and rational. Good conversation and drive. Well done
“The most dangerous thing we can do is nothing”. Great words.
Your Dad is correct. The processors will get faster and the batteries will get better and better. We’re only in the “stage couch” phase of FSD.
I like your Dad, you know when someone speaks about the balance of people is a good thing. You know they are intelligent.
Please thank your Dad for making a shout out to us poor RHD markets, Australia and UK. I also hope FSD makes its way to use down under soon. As a consolation prize, we do have a CyberTruck in the country, I’m super excited to go check it out in a Tesla showroom while it is here (for a month).
This for your Dad, not you! 😂
Your dad has a lot of extensive knowledge on business and technology. Impressive!
I think what it did at 12:29 was crazy. It quickly decided it needed to change lanes, it signaled, driver behind gave some space and the car immediately took it. No hesitation.
Super great having this ride with your dad, great chat and luv his comments. Really enjoyed this ride!!
Your dad is fantastic bro. Love his insights.
Thanks Omar. I really enjoy these drives.
your father is such a wise man, listening to him felt like a knowledgeable lecture
Thanks Omar. I really love your drives with your dad. Looking forward to the next one.
Dang! I could listen to your Dad all day!
If I buy a car I really don't care if they sell to China or wherever or who the CEO is, I do care if they have a car I like. I am happy you are enjoying FSD, someday I hope I can enjoy the technology.
Your dad makes a good point about being distracted.
Nice conversation with your dad. Dad has great information. I love the leaky nappy (diaper) analogy.
Your Dad's commentary is 👌💯🔥. Thanks for sharing 😊
Very nice drive and interesting discussion. I really like this kind of videos, to watch driving it and also have some commenting. Your dad's talk is also very informative. Thanks both of you!
Enjoyed the drive and especially the conversation
Good video! I like the conversation with your dad too. I am in Canada 🇨🇦 and using fsd and ya it keeps getting better and it’s amazing how well it drives and handles all the different situations like bad weather, construction zones with new pavement and no lines.
Loved your dad’s conversations and thoughts with you. What a well spoken,man. I can see where you get your relaxed speaking style from…more of Omar and Whole Mars please!
'There is no emotion @11:23 .' That's the biggest win, FSD being calm and capable. Brilliant video, thanks - I like your dad.
Fsd is simply amazing 👏
Love your dad! ❤🎉
Really great convo.
Great dad, futuristic dad !
looks like heaven over there in california
such good points from dad
Just took 12.3.6 for a drive. Feels so smooth, a lot less hesitation at intersections and in neighborhoods. Feels good.
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste
🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
18:15 what a ramble 😄 did your dad really say that he likes it when the car acts uncertain what to do because it feels more human-like?
The technology is impressive by itself. The bugs it still has (and it definitely still has bugs) don’t need to be whitewashed.
Palos Verdes ? Looks like my old neighborhood when I was a teenager.
I've seen the traffic chaos in India and China, with FSD all those problems would disappear. You'd get where you want faster, helping the economy, less stress, and most importantly, fewer accidents. IT' really is a win win.
Thanks for sharing!❤
5:30 dad dropping facts
It’s pretty cool when you have passengers and we hear the comments!
Sounds like you've got a great dad. It was a pleasure to listen to your conversation together.0
He waited going beyond many versions watching waymo 'pretend' they are premier self drive!
Wise dad!!!
Whole Mars Dad is pretty intelligent and insightful! (particularly the ending)
I agree with your dad, a lot. You are somewhat of a chip off the block. As a dad, I enjoy your conversations with dad.
enjoy the future bro 🎉
after listing to his dad, now i know why i like Omar so much.
You can be proud of your dad :)
Smart dad
Love the optimism and pessimism observation.
This is great and thanks for posting. Love your dad’s insights.
One request, any chance you can summarize some of the nuances and differences towards the end. Honestly love watching but sometimes can’t sit and watch everything and if you point to highlights one can jump there.
Incredible, this is an Alex Graham Bell moment.
Yip. Wow. That's world changing.
Running in Germany is an overstatement. Was just a presentation.
Hey Omar, do let us know your thoughts on Chuck Cooks’ experience with Unprotected Left Turns. He’s been experiencing a regressing pattern with every new update
Question: Do you always drive under "assertive" mode? And do you turn on automatic speed limit offset or you set a number/percentage yourself? My experience is if I turn on the automatic offset, sometimes it drives way too fast (like 48 mph in a 40 mph zone); but if I set it myself (like 8% over the speed limit), sometimes it drops way too slow (I've had it drop to around 35 on a local street where everybody drives at 45+ and 55 on the highway where everybody continues at 65+, and I don't recall seeing a speed limit sign change so I have no idea why it "saw" a speed limit sign change). Also, my 2024 model Y kind of ping-pongs within its lane on the highway, is it normal or should I have the camera recalibrated? Final question: does FSD perform the same across US or does it perform the best in CA?
Awesome video ❤ In Sweden 🇸🇪, I think in many other countries too we lose our license if we drive for instance 30km/h to fast. Also an incentive to drive in legal speeds.
Great video. Would love to see a video how FSD does during winter in the North East US. We rarely get days like this.
A brief search will turn up numerous YT videos about driving in snow, performance in the cold, etc.
thanks for the video looks incredible if this comes to the uk i would consider one and im not an ev fan lol
Good discussions 👍
More videos with your dad please 🙏🏽
My wife told me the same thing…she prefers FSD to my driving. For the last year she said no way to FSD…the resistance will gradually diminish
It really looks great. I would love to have this in Switzerland on my MYP! But the key quest for robo cars is still who is liable or is this solved?
One of the biggest things that should stand out to the people that want to continue to harp on Tesla, is the entire month of April has had free FSD for ALL Tesla cars that are capable of the tech. That is more than likely a HUGE number of new FSD cars being tested/used during the course of the month than usual, and yet, outside of a few early curb rubbing, there has not been an increase in Tesla related Crashes, Pedestrian accidents, etc. All of the people trying to get FSD banned always had to try and cheat and lie to make it look unsafe, where in reality its exactly the opposite. Is it Perfect? No not yet. But it is getting really dang close.
Still working to get my own, but of the ones I have ridden in, the urge to get one only increases every time.
I just drove it 50 miles, and it's decent. Freeway is excellent on average, and ten over, it works right through traffic like a rockstar. AI driven speed limit control is terrible. If we had the last 11V speed control, I would be super happy.
Tonight was the best exit off the freeway it's done. It seems to be tracking the lines more for staying centered. This last update I found it wondering into forks and left lane turns.
It won't be long before I start riding from the passenger seat.
This video needs more views
I tried Summon today and feel it's presently unusable. It just took forever and never did get to me.
I then did tried Auto Park and got jammed into a tight spot in my garage....not cool. Seems parking lots are the easiest and best use of Auto Park at present.
Anyway, 30 days up tomorrow and I subscribed for a month. I'll cancel before 30 days so I don't get charged another month. I just need more time with it to evaluate.
Got an update today and went from version 12.3.4 to 12.3.6. Getting that update today influenced me enough to subscribe.
NOTE:
If this was still $199, I wouldn't have subscribed.
QUESTION:
I mentioned a few years ago that charging this much for FSD is a real problem for some people and charging money to make people safer is a can of worms that hasn't been addressed.
When are we going to read a headline about a family killed in a crash because FSD software hadn't been renewed? Family financial difficulties making it impractical.
Good point.
So how are we fixing issues like overshooting the gate when the car got no steering wheel?
Nearly there. Just got to fix that left turn on Chuck's video 😃
End of next year in certain locations under certain conditions for Cyber Cab seems very doable.
Unlikely we'll see unsupervised FSD in today's vehicles by end of next year, but I've been wrong before.
omar please switch to black UI and dont lock the North, allow the map to rotate as the car turns. It looks more cool.
On 12.3.6 you don't have to touch the wheel (or the scroll buttons)?
6:20 "Pessimists are useful in the Speed versus Safety"
Should allow voice 'commands'- like it was a Uber driver? Would be useful in ambiguous situations like automatic gates And strange drop off. Lane changes sometimes as you get into them, it may reveal more information so decision may change half way through the manoeuvre!
Could you mark the gate as a stop along the way?
I like you guys:)
Still would like to see radar incorporated into the safety suite.
I’m a big fan of FSD. Can’t afford it yet, but I plan on buying it. With that said there are still big issues. Why do I keep seeing these successful drives on TH-cam but we’re not having successful drives with our 2023 hardware four model Y
We had major issues just trying to get from
13533 Seal Beach Blvd
Seal Beach, CA 90740
United States
To
14305 Firestone Blvd
La Mirada, CA 90638
United States
Demonstrate that you have a successful drive. One major failure was, it failed to do the interchange from 405 south. To the 22 E It then rerouted got off. the next exit we had to take over after it could not figure it out after getting in the wrong lane. Another time it was 1.8 miles away from getting off seal Beach Boulevard and I decided to get into the left lane. We are having major planning issues that were seen. It fails to plan ahead.
Tesla still have issues with route planning, so that's a separate issue from actual FSD part even tho those are connected.
Keeping tabs...
Tesla fail: not creeping up to community gate to get it to open
Tesla fail: didn't recorgnize stopped car without brake light, it was parked. It should have seen there are no cars in front of it as well, or possibly driven in mid between lanes for a few seconds (not giving up either lane) to make sure it's parked and not stopped.
Tesla fail: didn't slow down for dip in road as going into parking lot
Tesla fail: too close to large/protruding cars in parking lot. Had no cars around so no reason for it...
Tesla fail: doesn't go straight to open gate, then jerks at last moment
I want one. Gimme gimme!
V12 is starting to give me v11 vibs, the iterations are not moving forward enough, there are definitely regressions appearing, like the gate, it used to do that perfect. My opinion is only based on watching vids, there does seem to be a trend though.
Great.
At 17:45 my 12.3.6 is doing the same weird thing when coming up to a lane split. This is the first time I've seen this since v10, its never did it for me in all the places its doing it now. Overall 12.3.6 is pretty good, almost as good as the intiial 12.3
How come it's not prompting you to touch the steering wheel once in awhile? I remember that it did before but maybe the updated software version allows more hands off?
Google "Elon mode".
upvoted!!!!!
Hardware 4 runs in hardware 3 emulation mode for now for FSD. Hardware 4 is that capable.
Hello, can I have a question...Does the new version need steering wheel touching?
For you, yes. For Omar, no.
Once they rid the driver seat. You can close you're eyes and relax. Who would care If they could drive faster
Lets goooo
In these fsd videos it doesn’t look like you have to put your hands on the wheel. Is that not necessary with fsd?
Google "Elon mode".
how do you not have to touch the wheel very much-w/o nag?
best buy! 🤣🔥🔥
How do we get 12.3.6 sooner? I feel like my updates are delayed. Just got 12.3.5 today.
Still have 4 🤷♂️
For some reason mine skipped 12.3.5 and just loaded and installed 12.3.6 today an hour ago. I have no idea to answer your question.
It seems random. I also skipped 12.3.5 and just downloaded 12.3.6. Try checking for an update in the car, not just in the app.
20:51 I wanted to point out that if you have auto offset on you can still adjust your speed manually if you adjust your speed like you do normally when you have it on regular offset and just wait for a couple of seconds it will adjust the speed th-cam.com/video/qaCUe_cY-qI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FgEh0stKGEnJFGic&t=332
Are you holding your leg against the wheel? I’m assuming that’s how you’re driving hands-off.
HW 3 was designed with neural networks as its purpose. With the Ryzen it is more than capable. HW 5 is in development so I wouldn’t discount any of Tesla’s hardware choices. For all we know the semi is the purpose for hardware variants.
it drives on the left!
I don’t understand why your cars don’t nag you seemingly at all. I rented a 2021 Model Y last weekend to experiment with FSD and it nagged me almost constantly to “apply turning force”.