How to use SH4D and Circuit Tracks together with example track

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  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You just saved me from selling my Tracks. I’m planning to sell some gear (mc101 and TR6S as I have the 707 and tr8s) to get the SH-4D and didn’t think of this. Thank you.
    Excellent job in your explanation!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help!

    • @sullycliftona123
      @sullycliftona123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why. their only 500 quid ...i would also question selling the tr8s. u loony mate

  • @truthbw1
    @truthbw1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell yeah. Glad this popped into my recommended!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am, too. Thank you for watching.

  • @daviddechamps8840
    @daviddechamps8840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent vidéo! Thanks. Other examples of tracks most welcome !

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching.

  • @anthonytalley55
    @anthonytalley55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everybody can't make that stuff sound like you it sounds good 👍

  • @abstractmodule4574
    @abstractmodule4574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is an amazing setup. Fellow circuiteer here.

  • @astralmooncat_jyro_Tenshi
    @astralmooncat_jyro_Tenshi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this video! Now I can finally let my Roland control my Hydrasyth

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad I could help!

  • @JanavarKan83
    @JanavarKan83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job! I have the tracks and in the process of ordering the SH4D, powerful combo. Awesome vibe on your song.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. I hope you enjoy your SH4D as much as I've enjoyed mine.

  • @80iesDude45
    @80iesDude45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some great ideas here. As a longtime Circuit (OG & Tracks) owner, I combine it with my Roland MC-101 as I need additional timestreched Loops and One-Shot Vocal samples. I will have to figure out, how to combine those perfectly with my new SH-4d now for my DAWless setup ;-)

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching and commenting. I imagine it should be an interesting solution that will combine all those units.

  • @georgewarner7210
    @georgewarner7210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was very dope brother, informative as well. I have a circuit tracks that pretty much goes everywhere with me. I also have a couple of other small boxes, 3 keyboard synths, a push 2, a couple launchpads, a whole assortment of midi controllers, sequencers, mixers, speakers, microphones, audio interfaces, and even a mid 90s vintage Alesia ADAT…oh, and a smaller pioneer Dj controller! I’m an Ableton user and I love it…I might even qualify as addicted…but ever since I got my Circuit Tracks I too have been dipping my toe into the idea of a dawless set up and working towards putting a live set together. Needless to say I’m glad I found your channel and you definitely earned my subscription! Looking forward to checking out your other videos

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your reply, subscription and comment. ADAT! That's great. Does it still work?

  • @pablo_costas
    @pablo_costas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is so inspiring, not only the wit put into making these two interact with each other but the Tune is just fantastic! It would fit a glorious 80s guitar solo somewhere there. Maybe be I should let the mc101 go and get the circuit tracks to interact with the SH-4D, the complex sequencing and side chaining are killer features!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. I love the sequencing on this unit.

  • @fpvwalleit-drones2884
    @fpvwalleit-drones2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained video! I have the same setup at home. Efficient, powerfull and budget friendly.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Agreed on all points about the setup.

  • @grantsby
    @grantsby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool! Havent seen this anywhere else yet! Helpful.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I’m glad it helped.

  • @RMeisterMusic
    @RMeisterMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a fantastic video - thanks for this. I got a lot of new ideas for live performance from this and better ways to use the Circuit Tracks. Great stuff in here!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome!

  • @enzogach6746
    @enzogach6746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super video !! I have a circuit tracks which I am still getting used to and just discovered that the SH-4d existed.
    I always wanted to have an elektron box and was really looking to get the syntakt to try and work with my tracks but now you have really ducked up my mind 😂
    Thank you for being so clear and intuitive.
    Great jam 👍🏼

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching. I think they’re a great pairing. I wish you the best in finding the right gear for your Circuit Tracks.

  • @ChristosGeorgiades9
    @ChristosGeorgiades9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! You did a fantastic job explaining everything, and it is quite useful for anyone who is trying to become a music producer, like me, even though I don’t have either of these instruments. All the best with your new channel, I have a feeling that you are gonna do really well!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much!

  • @jedmarsillo
    @jedmarsillo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool breakdown of your song. I like how you're using these two devices together. You gave me a lot of really good ideas on how to use my setup, which is pretty similar. Thanks. Good song too 🤘

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I appreciate your feedback and encouragement.

  • @brunoscotti953
    @brunoscotti953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Circuit Tracks and SH-4d do indeed complement each other very well, the CT sequencer is great. I use it in pattern mode with the "sticky shift key" on, so I can make quick pattern jumps from time to time, rather than using the scenes.
    I love too the scale function of the CT, so I also use it as a Remote Keyboard to the SH-4d.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. I haven’t experimented much with the sticky shift. I’ll have to try it out.

  • @James-Deep
    @James-Deep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like they work well together as a combo.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely. I can get a lot of musical mileage out of these two units.

  • @guangyuzhu3684
    @guangyuzhu3684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's the genius setting up🎉 Thanks very much for making this into a vedio!❤

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, and you’re welcome.

  • @jeffryarchambeau5441
    @jeffryarchambeau5441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for going slow and cometely explaining! I'd like to try adding the SH-4d rhythm part for perc accents similar to what Cuckoo does.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. Cuckoo is great. I love the way his mind works when faced with something like the SH-4d.

  • @NilsKullberg
    @NilsKullberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful! - Big thanks for all the good ideas!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, and you’re welcome.

  • @thejewk386
    @thejewk386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really interesting and useful tutorial, thanks.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome. Thank you for watching.

  • @NoobeyTunes
    @NoobeyTunes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would zero the audio levels of the Circuit Tracks' synths1 & 2, and use the CT to sequence all 4 parts of the SH-4d. It is a fantastic starter combo!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s a great approach!

  • @lightningslim
    @lightningslim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, Thanks for that vid. There are a ton of SH4d vids out there and I got mine yesterday, so I've been trying to absorb them all! :) However yours has so far been the most well explained, with the hands on demao with reall music (Compliment there ;) ) that really illustrates what appears to be a "Simple" setup of incredible power. Well done! However as i am colour blind to a degree, I have been nervous about purchasing one of those lit up matrix devices, such as the Circuit tracks. Do you think that would be an issue?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It might somewhat of an issue. It depends on the intersection of the nature of your color-blindness (which colors you can’t distinguish), and where the Circuit Tracks uses color not just to distinguish an instrument, but to indicate the nature of the data it’s showing. In my videos (or others), have you been able to tell via perceived brightness of the selector buttons on the side, and the pads in the middle, which function was selected and what kind of data it was showing?

  • @HarmonicSonics.
    @HarmonicSonics. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have had my sh4d a while, but really would like to be able to chain longer patterns with the awesome sound engine it has, rather than hold a button down at the right time to switch to another sequence. Pretty limiting, idk why chaining wasnt included.
    Great ideas 💡 here, thank you!

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I find the two units to be really complimentary. The SH-4d is the superior synthesizer/sound generator. The Circuit Tracks has the superior sequencer. I agree that Roland seems to have missed an opportunity to add value to the SH-4d with a more robust sequencer.

  • @darrenmackay2536
    @darrenmackay2536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice tips :)

  • @fridmanator
    @fridmanator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool setup, very helpful' I was looking for an add-on to the circuit and the Sh-4d seemed cool.
    Did you had any latency issues?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I don’t recall any latency issues at the time. I’ve experienced some latency running a wireless MIDI controller through Ableton to the SH-4d, but I attribute that to Ableton and wireless. Running direct MIDI out from the Circuit Tracks to the SH-4d there was no discernible latency.

  • @markkilley2683
    @markkilley2683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Combine them together, one would have up to 10/12 parts. Pretty powerful. The SH-4D has sold really well, making getting one a little difficult. I think the mc101 or tr-6s would also be useful as they are battery operated.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s pretty accurate. You get 5 parts on the SH4d (4 Tones and the Rhythm channel), and combine them with the 2 synths and 4 rhythm tracks on the Circuit Tracks, for a total of 11 tracks. Plus, you get the 2 MIDI tracks to basically supplant the SH4d’s internal 64 step sequencer with 8 32 step patterns that can be chained together, or triggered independently. I’d love to try an MC-101 some day, but I don’t currently possess one.

  • @JosephKaessner
    @JosephKaessner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool , how did you do the fills right at the end of scene 4? Were those just 64 step sequences with the fills programmed at the end?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I can’t remember the number of steps (it’s been awhile), but it was basically a sequence that was running the whole time, but muted. When I needed the fill, I unmuted the track and triggered the next sequence.

  • @couturesounds
    @couturesounds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Thanks! Just a question, is it possible to do the same with the Circuit Rythm instead of Tracks (considering I do not use the Synth 1 and Synth 2 of the Tracks) ?

  • @alexandrosstogiannis9589
    @alexandrosstogiannis9589 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video! I got my SH4d yesterday, what an inspiring little synth! When connected to the circuit however, the volume from the SH4D is quite low. I connect them exactly as you do, with two mono cables. First thought was to use a mixer but I want the setup to be as minimal as possible. Any thoughts?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and commenting. When you say “Circuit”, do you mean Circuit Tracks or Circuit Rhythm? In my testing, I’ve found that the Rhythm adds a gain reduction (something like 11dB) to the incoming signal. I even swapped units, and the results were consistent. Have you tried running your SH4d outputs through anything else and compared it with a similar unit for gain differences? Are you running your SH4d at full volume? Have you tried other units through the inputs to your Circuit to verify it’s not the inputs in the Circuit? These are some of things I would do to confirm the issue. I’m assuming that you’ve set the volume over the MIDI 1 and MIDI 2 (assuming it’s the Circuit Tracks) to full. I don’t remember there being another gain stage in the Circuit Tracks, but could double check. Oh, and don’t forget to test the cables that you’re using. I hope some of this was helpful.

    • @alexandrosstogiannis9589
      @alexandrosstogiannis9589 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lectronin Thanks for your answer! I appreciate it :)
      The problem is solved! As I said it was the first day and I was a bit rushed by the enthusiasm. I don't know exactly what I was doing wrong, I disconnected everything and reconnected them, did a bit cable management and brought a midi controller in and boom! All sound good now. However, what I definitely did differently this time is that I panned the two inputs of the circuit to the left and right. Maybe it is a no brainer, but I am a newbie and I forgot it at first. It did a huge difference to the sound depth.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m glad you got it resolved. You’re right, the panning does make a significant difference.

  • @tosmixno
    @tosmixno 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video! I have a Circuit Tracks and an SP-404 (spotted one in your video!) and am considering a SH4D - Have you tried using all three together?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching and commenting. Yes I have, in this video: th-cam.com/video/ttzwm2q6UmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hxOhLjrY7WptBcl6 . However, I'm using the SP-404 as a FX processor rather than a sampler. It's FX alone are phenomenal.

  • @daviddembinski6722
    @daviddembinski6722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I've read or found out is, that you can change the midi channel on synth1 and synth2. Afterwards mute them. If I am correct, you should even be able to sequence all Tone parts on the SH4d and have even room for 4 drums. It's amazing gotta try that out.
    Otherwise nice video and thanks for the setup. :)
    Edit: okay i see you wanted to use synth 1 and synth 2 of the circuit. Well thats actually nice.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I need to test that out. On both the Circuit Tracks and the SH-4d, it’s MIDI that is muted, not audio. For example, I muted MIDI 1 on the CT, sent to Part 3 on the SH-4d, and no MIDI information reached Part 3. For this trick to work, the Synth tracks would have to behave differently from the MIDI tracks, muting audio rather than MIDI. I’m interested to learn if this worked for you.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, I just remembered the solution. Yes, the mute button on the CT will mute the MIDI only. However, you can go to the mix page on the CT and reduce the volume on the Synth tracks so you don’t hear them.

    • @daviddembinski6722
      @daviddembinski6722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yeah thanks that was it what I've wanted. You can always like in your video easily mute on the SH4d. Love that synth and sound. Had always liked the circuit but the synth was a bit cumbersome for me to configure on the computer. Now with the SH4d it is a dreamteam. And combining sp404mk2 for sample. Full mobile dawless workstation
      😂😂😂
      Maybe a bit crazy but works and is a lot of fun.

    • @Death_By_Media
      @Death_By_Media ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes all parts send midi on separate channels the only difference with the “ midi tracks “ is having the 8 macros as templates , but otherwise no functional difference. There is even a cool expansion for the OG circuit ( haven’t tried with the tracks ) called the CV OCD that is a dedicated circuit to cv box to control a skiff or small modular rig .

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Death_By_Media Helpful clarification. Thank you.

  • @plantpoweredmuscle
    @plantpoweredmuscle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you had to get one first, which one do you recommend? I have the Roland Juno x and thought about getting the circuit tracks but then I noticed I could get a lot of the same from sh4d and maybe I should sell the juno x. Choices lol

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I might recommend the Circuit Tracks. I love my SH-4d, but the Juno X offers true Zen-Core and a keyboard. As long as it fits well in your current workflow, I think I lean towards keeping the Juno X, and adding the SH-4d when time and funds allow. Unless, of course, you’re looking to downsize for space and portability.

  • @jorgenpaco
    @jorgenpaco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job! Could this also work with a Roland SH 4D and a Akai MPC Live?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't worked with the MPC Live, but a cursory glance indicates it should be possible. It might look a little different on the MPC since my approach was somewhat shaped by the idiosyncrasies of the Circuit Tracks. I'm currently adapting this track to Ableton by "modeling" some of the structure and workflow of the Circuit Tracks.

  • @richarda1937
    @richarda1937 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, I ordered one based on your recommendations, but what cables do I need?

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m glad I could help in your decision. I’m going to include some links to cables I use with my unit. I full disclosure, as an Amazon Associate, I earn commission from qualifying purchases. I can’t tell from this comment whether you ordered the SH-4d, or the Circuit Tracks. Both could benefit from stereo cables (1 stereo out for the SH4d, and 1 stereo in and 1 stereo out for the Circuit Tracks). I’ve tried various cables, and I’ve had a good experience with these cables for the past year: amzn.to/3PSprmT . Unless you’re driving it from a computer via the included USB cable, you’ll probably want some MIDI cables, too (unless you’re running it in standalone mode). I prefer using short cables to keep a minimum of spaghetti clutter on my performance table. I’ve used these short standard MIDI cables for some time, and they work great: amzn.to/3VH8eio . I more recently picked up these even lower profile CME cables, and they can work spectacularly depending on how you arrange you gear (they don’t have a long reach): amzn.to/43Smfxo . I hope this helps. Let me know.

  • @TheWalkingSoul
    @TheWalkingSoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would prefer to be able to sequence all 4 parts of the sh-4d on the novation or something very similar, is that possible do you know?
    Sadly Roland have made yet again the sequencer sooooo un intuitive it’s infuriating because it sounds absolutely gorgeous.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know what you mean. I love the sound of the unit, but find the sequencer limiting for many applications. But, that's what MIDI's for, right? Yes, you should be able to sequence all four synth parts on the SH-4d using the Circuit Tracks. Just use the 2 MIDI tracks, and the 2 synth tracks with their volume turned down and their MIDI channels assigned to the corresponding channels on the SH-4d. The Drum tracks, however, are another story, since they share the same MIDI channel, and each track's output's note is fixed (you can change the samples used in any sequence, but they're considered a "flipped sample", not a distinct MIDI note). Hope that helps.

  • @karlmasters3804
    @karlmasters3804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, im looking at both of these but with the idea to use the circuit tracks as only a sequencer. Basically midi channels 1-4 for each sh4d track and channel 10 for the drums. Im hoping the 4 sample tracks on the circuit tracks can sequence the drums on the sh4d. Or even just 3 of the sample tracks leaving one sample track to trigger the odd sample as well.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the comment. I tried something similar. Unfortunately, I was unable to sequence the SH-4d using the Circuit Tracks drum tracks. The drum tracks on the CT only send out one fixed MIDI note per drum track, regardless of which drum sample you trigger on that step. I believe it’s because the Circuit Tracks treats changing a sound on the drum tracks as “sample flipping”. It’s also an issue when trying to capture the MIDI data of your CT performance in a DAW like Ableton when you want to record, store and edit for a more finished production.

    • @karlmasters3804
      @karlmasters3804 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for getting back to me,. Im glad i asked before buying. I was hoping to just use the circuit tracks for external sequencing only.

  • @snörre23
    @snörre23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who has never used a DAW i find it always strange when they talk about a dawless setup. For me going DAW would mean a new computer, all those interfaces i have no idea about, i also never used midi other than maybe for sync, and then learn that complex software.

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see that as one of the strengths of the Circuit Tracks, especially for someone who is getting into music production who is overwhelmed by or just not interested in all the hardware, software, and the learning curve involved in the typical DAW setup. The CT interface is fairly simple and immediate. And that can be appealing even to someone who has plenty of experience with DAWs.

  • @sullycliftona123
    @sullycliftona123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why not link it to a 707

    • @lectronin
      @lectronin  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sullycliftona123 No reason, other than I don’t currently have a 707 😁.