Why Drywall Dimplers SUCK!!!

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  • @davidnord1979
    @davidnord1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    i put my drywall screws in by hand with a regular screwdriver and then i torque them down to 9 inch pounds with a torque wrench one by one...perfect..

    • @stevengerard7371
      @stevengerard7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This is hilarious if you are joking, and impressive if you aren't!

    • @within_cells
      @within_cells 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stevengerard7371 and a waste of money if he's on the clock! If it's on his own time then more power to him 👌👌

    • @patrickcowan8701
      @patrickcowan8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      pre.lubing the screws individually with silicone spray before install helps,let the screw dry before you start.

    • @davidnord1979
      @davidnord1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      its a joke people

    • @davidnord1979
      @davidnord1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patrickcowan8701 yeah i did that too but it didnt make a difference so i thought it was a waste of time

  • @chrisdelap2793
    @chrisdelap2793 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use a dimpler and must have a lighter touch than others. I have not had the scoring problem you show. I watched this video when it first came out. I just watched it again to see if I missed something. As you have said on multiple of your videos “use the tools you are comfortable with and getting the results you want. Keep up your content I have learned so much from you on techniques.

  • @timroscoe4519
    @timroscoe4519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Great tip and I love that you just get to the point and don’t stretch out the video to 10 minutes! Very helpful!

    • @chrislambe400
      @chrislambe400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Any 10 minute video that answers or addresses one simple question or problem does not get watched by me. Clickbait and 10 mins for the algo sucks

    • @ScottCleve33
      @ScottCleve33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. He didn't go into the history of the drill and drywall only to 15 minutes later take 1 minute to tell us how it should be done. I swear these TH-cam people get monetized not only on views but on length of video.

    • @trickyricky12147
      @trickyricky12147 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ScottCleve33Then you have the NPCs commenting "thanks for teaching me the history of the drill and showing how it's done! Good video!" Yeah right🙄

  • @joemedley195
    @joemedley195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I just did a whole bathroom with a dimpler and never scored the paper. Don’t know what to make of that. Maybe the brand of dimpler makes a difference?

    • @NuttedInYoMom
      @NuttedInYoMom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah, I think he just used a shitty brand dimpler.
      I bought and used DeWalt brand dimplers for a small renovation, and it works perfectly fine, no scoring of the paper just a little circular dent that would've been filled with mud ANYway.
      Drywall screw setters (dimplers) have their place and time, it's meant for small drywall jobs where it wouldn't be worth investing in a drywall screw gun. Yes, their slower, but it beats spending $200 bucks when you just need to hang a couples sheets. Definitely NOT a tool a professional should be using though, but hey have their use.

    • @jayjayhooksch1
      @jayjayhooksch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NuttedInYoMom I did drywall repair for a living for years. Switched to the dimpler after picking up a 12v impact driver. Never once tore the paper up like in this video. I also used DeWalt bits, so maybe brand makes a difference.
      Every once in awhile the screw wouldn't sink as nicely as with a drywall gun and I'd have to hit it twice, but was offset by how much faster I could work with an impact.

    • @birdog874555
      @birdog874555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jayjayhooksch1 I have a DeWalt dimpler and it doesn't score the paper either. Works great actually.

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What is this guy trying to do, send the screw to China?
      Does he just keep going as the screw disengages?

    • @chartle1
      @chartle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I picked up a few from Harbor Freight and yes that were crap and if I kept using them may have done this.

  • @stephenholland6328
    @stephenholland6328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You must have 2 audiences, DIY that want to do a nice job, and pro’s that are moving into drywall. It’s great that you address both groups. I did a ceiling soffit removal and with the techniques I learned from you have a great look with invisible seams. Having gotten confidence with that when we just pulled down kitchen cabinets and found some hidden damage as well as wanting to upgrade outlets and add an in wall water valve, there was little hesitation to pull down 2 sheets worth of drywall. The upgrades are going smoothly and with 3 corners and one flat seam the work will be a breeze! Thanks for putting all this out there!

  • @jayjayhooksch1
    @jayjayhooksch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Used these for years in an impact driver doing drywall repair, never once tore the paper like that. Was so much more efficient with a magnetic extension compared to a drywall gun that the owners of the company switched to impacts as well. Never seen them shred the paper like that either.
    Maybe the problem is using them with a drill rather than an impact; as soon as the impact is finished driving it cams out, so there's no excessive spinning.

    • @mattcaplis3045
      @mattcaplis3045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I use them with a Makita impact driver and never had a problem. I'm sure a drywall specific gun is better, but I'm not a professional drywaller and wouldn't spend the $$ on the gun he's using. However, if they didn't work and scored paper like the ones he shows in his video, then I would not use them.

    • @maddawgzzzz
      @maddawgzzzz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same been using my impact drivef with a dimpler and it does not tear paper. Screwdrivers will do this, not impacts.

    • @ef2b
      @ef2b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maddawgzzzz How does the impact help? Is it just that it slows down when it starts to sense torque?

  • @chrisdupont1195
    @chrisdupont1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We drywalled all my brother's house a few years ago using those (and they came from Silverline which is like the European equivalent of Harbour Freight, so cheap stuff). Never had any problem. We used drill drivers (not impacts) on low setting and it was perfect every time.

    • @brandonlemmon
      @brandonlemmon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This was my experience as well. Impact drills are no good with the dimpler, but the regular drills at the right settings do a nice job.

  • @JonnyDIY
    @JonnyDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I was so excited when I bought one of those, then I used it for a couple screws and knew it was a piece of junk. I think if the collar around the bit was a little wider diameter they would work fine.

  • @dpgreene
    @dpgreene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just looking at a room I did recently I don’t see any fully concentric paper ripping as you’re highlighting. I only recently switched to these on recommendation from a guy I worked with. If there is a trick to using these well, it would take conscious intentional driving of the screw (as in not push too hard and not driving any more than you need to). Just using a Phillips bit also takes a lot of finesse and is prone to issues too.

    • @michaeleasler4936
      @michaeleasler4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're absolutely correct, just use then straight on and they work great! Now ild probably use the correct sheet rock gun if I was doing a whole house.

  • @bobwatkins1271
    @bobwatkins1271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Never had any problem with those. The one I use has a "this part right here" that spins independently from the the bit. Although it turns while the screw is being driven, it stops as soon as it makes contact with the drywall.

    • @darriuscole8544
      @darriuscole8544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you find that?

    • @bobwatkins1271
      @bobwatkins1271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darriuscole8544 No idea. I've probably had it for 20 years!

    • @TM-dh2xb
      @TM-dh2xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darriuscole8544 I bought one at HD years ago. I imagine Lowes has them as well.

    • @dearthworm
      @dearthworm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. I've got one that I got thirty years ago. It works just fine.

    • @mine6312
      @mine6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobwatkins1271 are the bits replaceable ? Ive never seen a philips bit last very long

  • @danielfinao
    @danielfinao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m drywaller for 20 years , the gun is better for sure but the dimpler also works well when you do not want to buy a drywall gun .
    You are completely right, the dimpler score the paper very often , but that happens only because sometimes when you going to screw, the screw can go sideways scratching the dimpler tip, what causes the scratched dimpler to score the drywall paper , so as soon you realize they start to score the drywall you have to exchange the dimpler or the best and fast solution is just file/sand the dimpler by pressing and spinning the dimpler tip edges for around 10 seconds against a brick,cement board, any hard surface using your drill, the scratch in the dimpler tip will disappear and wont score anymore until you by accident scratch it again.
    , so you repeat the proceed.
    Great video and tip , I have seen houses with all screws scored, what diminish the drywall resistance and a lots of extra work to mud those screws with a ripped paper sticking out.

  • @johnross6436
    @johnross6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I found a 3” bit holder with the “dimpler”, but the dimpler is free not to spin with the bit holder. As a carpenter that doesn’t do a lot of drywall it seems like a perfect compromise

    • @robertgiresi9515
      @robertgiresi9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name or link please?

    • @johnross6436
      @johnross6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertgiresi9515 Montana Brand drywall screw setter

    • @robertgiresi9515
      @robertgiresi9515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnross6436 Thanks John. Much gratitude!

  • @eols2190
    @eols2190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't use a dimpler bit. I just used the clutch/ratchet feature on my drill/driver and I had it set light enough to stop twisting before the screw head was flush with the paper. Then I went through all the screw heads with a good quality #2 Phillips screw driver, carefully tightening each screw manually. Afterwards I checked their depth by sliding my 4" knife over each, and tightened a bit more if needed. A few times the paper would tear as the screw was countersunk (not too often, but occasionally). Are you suggesting that I add a new screw next to ANY of the screw holes where the paper tore when the screw was set at the proper depth, or only if lots of them ripped the sheetrock paper?

  • @markoshun
    @markoshun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve never used a dedicated drywall gun so didn’t think about the depth ring not turning, makes sense. That said, I’ve never seen ripped paper using a dimpler and it’s seems to me more likely that the stronger reason for it not turning is so you can load the next screw without stopping. If I did see tearing I would assume my helper was just pushing waaay too hard. Fine tool, bad technique.

  • @hokimocus
    @hokimocus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you tell this to your fellow Canadian Jeff over at Renovision. I love him but he is recommending a dimpler by DeWalt. After using the dimpler, I was sort of dumbfounded by my inability to set the screw. I finally gave up and hand set my screws with a corded power drill.
    Thanks!!!!

  • @turbo8481
    @turbo8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a painter/skateboarder it's really cool to watch both your videos. Been skating 30+ years and painting 20+. My paint skills are always improving while my skate skills are not. Lol

  • @GregoryGuay
    @GregoryGuay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My DeWalt dimpler seems to work just as as well as the new Ryobi drywall screw gun I purchased

  • @DREVOSTAVBAsvepomoci
    @DREVOSTAVBAsvepomoci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have same makita drywall drill :-) greetings from Czech - I am learning a lot from you about drywall, thank you for that :-)

  • @jazzjohn2
    @jazzjohn2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    For years I've never scored the paper with a dimpler . Maybe you can show us how you do it!

    • @joshyingling
      @joshyingling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Funny this is the first time I've heard of this. Never have had one rip or burn paper, I use them for my kids and wife to help me screw down panels

    • @johnallen2832
      @johnallen2832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your full of it

    • @tripp121283
      @tripp121283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have. But it was because I wasn't using properly. It's just supposed to be like a guide. You don't run it all the way down and let it spin on the drywall. I dont think it really spins with the bit all that much anyway

    • @michaelattoe5710
      @michaelattoe5710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I've used those dimples on every drywall job I've ever done and have never had the result that he's showing. The only way I can think that somebody might get that result is if they use a drill without a clutch on it and didn't have the least bit of feel for when to stop.

    • @johnallen2832
      @johnallen2832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelattoe5710 with out a clutch, you nailed it

  • @Driver732
    @Driver732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also used a dewalt dimpler bit for a single room build in my basement without a single tear in drywall. It barely left a mark and definitely no tearing like what I saw in this video. Only issue I heard from people is the bit rounds off over time due to the impact driver, so you gotta replace it often. Definitely would invest in a drywall screw gun for larger jobs.

  • @matthewhorwat7540
    @matthewhorwat7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    They work ok, when they are new, and when you don't push too hard. I haven't seen the paper ripping circles using them.

    • @michaelcarson4887
      @michaelcarson4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are right but if you are a carpenter we need to not be cheap and just by a drywall screw gun and give our clients the product they pay for.
      We just hung a basement and I didn't bring my gun. So I went and got dimples and they are just not all that great.

    • @timort2260
      @timort2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same I've been able to get by with them while they are fresh but honestly I have a variably speed impact and rather just use a normal bit. Though if I start doing more drywall then I'd buy the proper gun it's not like they are an expensive investment.

    • @matthewhorwat7540
      @matthewhorwat7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@michaelcarson4887 to hang a couple sheets of drywall for the average DIY'er - those dimple tools are fine, but to do any more, get yourself a drywall drill. Agreed.

    • @michaelcarson4887
      @michaelcarson4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewhorwat7540 yes sir

    • @jeepsuc99
      @jeepsuc99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rather that put a screw next to thescrew where the board is damaged, why didn't u put in between each screw?? Just as bad as the carpenter

  • @beckettrowan4149
    @beckettrowan4149 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you! Been following you for years, but. Just ready to do my first project. You have saved me so much money and time.

  • @bay9876
    @bay9876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Maybe the noise of the constant "on" drywall drill scares some carpenters. You know, "to a hammer everything looks like a nail" but dry-walling is an art that needs the right tool.

  • @BOCraftsman
    @BOCraftsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a pack and used them for a little while but, like you stated. I was more annoyed with them than happy. I stopped using them all together. I find it just as easy to be easy with the drill driver than to use those bits. Thanks for the video Ben!

  • @olgajoachimosmundsen4647
    @olgajoachimosmundsen4647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aren't you a carpenter? :P I've used this exact bit and I think it works well. It doesn't cut the paper at all, but leaves a small circle/imprint.

  • @stevehairston9940
    @stevehairston9940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lowe's sells one that works on a cordless drill that works pretty well. Works just like a drywall screw gun cone without scoring the paper.

  • @shaunwarner7252
    @shaunwarner7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've not had many problems out of the dimpler... and been using for many years. But with impact driver.

  • @keithpond691
    @keithpond691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have never seen that before. What brand are you using, XActo?

  • @IggyPelman
    @IggyPelman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've used a dimpler with mixed results. It simply takes more precision to ensure you don't drive through the paper. Spending money on a purpose built tool sounds great if you plan on doing it for a living. Otherwise, not so much.

  • @jconradh
    @jconradh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the dimpler AND I slow down as it gets close. I have a drywall gun, BUT it doesn't work well with 90+ year old studs in my historic home. Some screws hardly go in others too far- the wood isn't as consistent as newer studs to activate the clutch.

  • @patrickpolizzi7
    @patrickpolizzi7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a DIY. I have tried drywall bits. I do not know if the bit I bought was no good, or if the driver wasn't a high enough quality. The drill wouldn't consistantly drive the screws to a consistent depth. I wound up using an impact driver. I have Milwaukee tools.

  • @daveshafer7908
    @daveshafer7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just switched from a drywall gun to these bits. No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get any rips in the drywall. Any tips?

  • @kevinr3263
    @kevinr3263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now have a makita cordless drywall gun which rocks, but I never had a problem with the dimple bits. Never cut the paper for me. I would definitely recommend for someone who doesn't do drywall often. I probably do around 150 sheets a year which definitely warranted the drywall gun i.m.o

  • @rcarioca
    @rcarioca 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my very old dimpler design has the collar floating on the screw bit and spring loaded. Does not tear out paper.

  • @wolfe2118
    @wolfe2118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been using some high dollar dimpler that I bought for my home/shop renovation. It worked just fine as far as I could tell until it broke a few weeks ago. I stuck the bit in the end of my Milwaukee M12 impact driver and found that the driver chuck locking ring would dimple the paper just fine and spin so it didn't tear the paper.

  • @nater51
    @nater51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used the DeWalt dimples on my DeWalt drill. Just finished my basement. Never had the paper rip like that.

    • @NuttedInYoMom
      @NuttedInYoMom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @michaelcarson4887
      @michaelcarson4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just used some on a job because I left my drywall screw gun at home.
      And we wish I would have gone back just to get the guns.
      Are they ok on small scale.. kind of. But once you have used a real gun you know you shouldn't use the dimples.

    • @mine6312
      @mine6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcarson4887 yea guns fast and easier but does same job

    • @michaelcarson4887
      @michaelcarson4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mine6312 agree to disagree. Guns are also more consistent and cleaner.

    • @mine6312
      @mine6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelcarson4887 im not saying a dimpler is a better option bu any stretch of the imagination just saying if you know what you are doing the job can be done just as good with a dimpler yea its going to be harder and take alot longer but ots possible ive done it many times and never had one issue

  • @alwaysrockn2009
    @alwaysrockn2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent. I’d didn’t know the there was a special screw gun just for drywall on top of a regular screw gun and impact driver. Dang. Is there No special attachment available so you don’t have to purchase another gun/driver?

    • @starlaxed
      @starlaxed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah there's an attachment, the dimpler he told us not to use haha

    • @garnetnard4284
      @garnetnard4284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@starlaxed lol

    • @NuttedInYoMom
      @NuttedInYoMom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starlaxed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯

  • @oltedders
    @oltedders 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned to hang drywall with a Philips head bit in a driver. My issue with the dimpler is that I'm always pulling the driver off before the bit can do its work. My hand is trained to not sink the screw heads too deep into the board.

  • @k9feces
    @k9feces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had luck with them but I was really careful, I’m not a pro and don’t need to be efficient.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting I had the opportunity to use one and they were a scarce commodity at that habitat build, I bring this up because I don’t remember it scoring the paper it did leave sort of a dimple I’m wondering if that’s just a cheap bit with some flashing on the edge? That said I was doing a better job sinking screws with a standard bit then the other individuals with the bits.

  • @thejpkotor
    @thejpkotor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    ‘It’s a poor tradesman that blames the tools’. It’s all about technique.

  • @Chopp333r
    @Chopp333r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been using these for a few years now and I love them, never have a problem with the paper tearing but you know ya just gotta sink and quit drillin, not too hard really

  • @samo4648
    @samo4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I've literally never had this happened before. Whoever installed that didnt know what they were doing

    • @chartle1
      @chartle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must be Canadian bits that do this. :)

    • @trickyricky12147
      @trickyricky12147 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@chartle1Yep!
      *_cracks open an American beer brand that went woke_*

  • @eds.9086
    @eds.9086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have looked all over the internet for the screw set dimpler you are using. Where did you buy your dimpler from

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa8984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just used a dimpler and redid a few rooms. I didn't have any problem with scoring of the paper like you show here. I suspect it really has to do with pressure on the drill and how fast you have set your tool to run. I run my stuff on medium speed and don't push too hard when setting the screws and it works fine.

  • @charlieodom9107
    @charlieodom9107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never even heard of that thing till this video! I have always used a standard drill driver and feathered the throttle to set the screw just deep enough to cover it with mud. I don't do much drywall though.

  • @jerseyjim9092
    @jerseyjim9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe I've been lucky or my dimpler model is different than the one you're using but I've never scored the paper on many jobs. And I use a 18v dewalt impact driver. I did get a corded Makita drywall screw gun and I agree it makes a neater dimple and it's much faster but sometimes, especially when I'm only doing a couple sheets, I don't feel like dragging it out and dealing with extension cords.

  • @tommytookalook
    @tommytookalook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The DeWalt version worked OK but wasn’t perfect. As you recommend, I ended up going slowly w/ impact driver and coming back afterwards w/ manual screwdriver. Not a problem when you only have a small job. It would have saved a lot more nail pops if original builder hadn’t used nails instead of screws round edges of drywall.

    • @darriuscole8544
      @darriuscole8544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in the day, like 20-30 years ago, it was all nails. I learned on nails back when I was a kid. I come back as an adult and find that everyone is using screws, now.

    • @michaelcarson4887
      @michaelcarson4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So we use the dewalt on a production level. Dont need to come back and set but just a few.
      In a respectful manner I suggest learning how to use the tool properly.

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a drywall gun, as well as a collared attachment for it. I do have a drywall/driver bit holder, I don’t recall who makes it but it works great for drywall and decking; it accepts 1/4”x1” bits and has a barrel collar on the outside that is free spinning and has a depth adjustment. The bit holder works great; I like it mostly for surface screwing of composite decking as it perfectly sets screw depth though it also works great with drywall as it works quite similarly to how a drywall gun works just without a clutch. The barrel hits then the screw basically drives off the bit; this does cause some bit wear but that happens anyway. I keep it in my drill/driver bag as a just in case item as I do t regularly travel with the drywall gun. As a side not I own the DeWalt drywall gun along with its matching collated adapter and while it works great on drywall unlike my corded Milwaukee it can only use DeWalt bits which are of an non-standard size and only made in #2 Philips so it can’t be used to drive deck screws.

  • @jatontherun
    @jatontherun หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect video! I definitely will stop using the bit and go for a screw gun or test using an impact driver. Thank You for this helpful and simple video!!!

  • @renskivideos
    @renskivideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sometimes can score the paper when I push really hard with a Dimpler, but if you have good trigger finger control I find them just fine.

  • @infotechsailor
    @infotechsailor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used one of these dimplers in a remodel and it was more of an issue not getting the screws to sink in all the way but never had torn paper

  • @pinerock9668
    @pinerock9668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used a dimpler on an impact and I sheeted my whole house. It works with an impact pretty good, it does take some care but I'd say anyone could do it with only a few over driven screws per house.

  • @sarahwhite6341
    @sarahwhite6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We got a drywall gun for our remodel project and I can't for the life of me get it to be consistent in depth. I adjust it to the perfect depth and then before I know it, the next one I do goes too deep. I switched to a dimpler and it works perfectly every time. I haven't had any do what you showed. But I really wish I could use the drywall gun we bought. I don't understand the issue with it.

    • @miketoombs6323
      @miketoombs6323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I purchased a milwaukee drywall setting drill 35 years ago and it still properly sets the screws. A worthwhile and sound investment

    • @sarahwhite6341
      @sarahwhite6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miketoombs6323 ours is a dewalt. I don't know what it's problem is. 🤷

  • @Caretak007
    @Caretak007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the biggest issue with those bits is that you can't adjust the depth. I have used the Dewalt ones before and they didn't create dimples but they kept stopping about a quarter to a half turn from flush, so you have to make a 2nd pass with a screwdriver to finish. I am assuming theses dimples were created because they were having the same issue but took a shortcut by forcing the collar into the drywall to get the right depth. This, as you pointed out, negates most of the holding force of that screw.

  • @greggin9116
    @greggin9116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat video! Short, sweet and informative! Thank you! Keep up the great work!

  • @meangreen7389
    @meangreen7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently replaced the ceiling in our family room which is about 224 sq. ft. I too know the importance of not setting the too deep otherwise it’s holding power is useless. I bought and used drywall screw setters by DeWalt and the drywall’s paper was not marred nor scored. Not all screw setters are the same. Love your vids, thanks for sharing.

  • @rustyt.5688
    @rustyt.5688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please show us what we can use with a drill. I just bought a dimpler. I’ve been looking for something for over a week. Thanks!

  • @jaredyoung5340
    @jaredyoung5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've noticed the latest dimplers I bought were rough and had burrs, I smoothed them out with dremel which solved the tear out I was getting

  • @stronglifelived4sure394
    @stronglifelived4sure394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks for making this video after I redrywalled my entire first floor using a dimpler 🤦🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Chopp333r
      @Chopp333r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ll be fine

  • @CodeMonkey66
    @CodeMonkey66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel BTW...I've used your drywall tips extensively...sooo helpful. Thanks!

  • @jhans3278
    @jhans3278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for video. I have a Montana brand screw setter that has a swivel on the nose end that does not cut into the drywall.

  • @TheMustangStampede
    @TheMustangStampede 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just did entire house to include ceilings using dimpler not once did it tear the paper like that. I sunk a few to deep my fault not the dimpler. Back them out removed and placed another screw beside the blow out. We also had dewalt dry screw drill. It was used much less in favor of cordless impact with dimpler. Im sure not all dimplers are created equal.

  • @jessemarshall7176
    @jessemarshall7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That makita drywall gun sound like a Lexus compared to my ryobi. You hear ever screw slipping In the bit when it gets to the end of its depth

  • @moonblink
    @moonblink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    haha that's awesome. 1:58 "that's pretty much the end of the video..." so cool, you got to the point and that was it. refreshing on youtube

  • @nlambuca
    @nlambuca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have a video of screws on board edge? like what to do if gypsum cracks when you put screw in due to too much in or uneven base?

  • @JR-vh6mz
    @JR-vh6mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carpenter here who occasionally does drywall. When I don't have a drywall gun I prefer reduced phillips drive bits (and being extra careful) over dimple bits.

  • @tonyr8443
    @tonyr8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried a Dewalt dimpler for the first time because I've been using just my impact, and it worked great. Hardly see any ring marks whatsoever. I don't know how others are using it or maybe just the way I use it with an impact, but they work for me just fine.

  • @turboflush
    @turboflush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dimplers i had, the outwr ring would not spin.
    I stoped using them though. Was easier to just use a regular screw bit.
    These days i finally have a drywall gun.

  • @ParisCarpentry1971
    @ParisCarpentry1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as usual, which model Makita were you using?

  • @scottallen606
    @scottallen606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is interesting. I’m a pretty skilled diyer and have hung a ton of dry wall. Never once have I scored or burnt paper. I do adjust the torque and rarely go full throttle though. Definitely something to look out for but I wouldn’t say NEVER use them or they absolutely suck. Just knowing your tools and what to look for helps. I would assume most diy people like me don’t have a drywall gun and not gonna rent one.

    • @Blahmanwhysoserious
      @Blahmanwhysoserious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah rental of one is not even an option for me in my area, I got 4 panels to install in my garage, will likely never do this again so I'll deal with the crappy results since like everyone these days im broke

  • @jebronekitty
    @jebronekitty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hate these, "don't use them, use something way more expensive, defeating the purpose of at home repairs"

  • @lipevolcom2
    @lipevolcom2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dewalt have magnetic sleeve that holds into the round zone one the bit so you can have a magnet holder and limiter that won't turn when meets resistance . Problem solver for the ones who can't use those. I did about 250 screws using those cheap bits yes I did torn the paper a few times but if you can't find the DeWalt , just use them with careful

  • @glenndunlap
    @glenndunlap ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you test the kobalt screw collated nailer?

  • @kanento
    @kanento 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm I use a DeWalt dimplers and it never sliced the paper. Been using them for years with no issue

  • @within_cells
    @within_cells 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used mine regularly and never had the scoring issue. I also threw mine away when it wore out, I think that's the issue more than anything. The Phillips bit wears down and allows the guard to go deeper so it scores the paper.

    • @dpgreene
      @dpgreene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed the same thing and replaced mine after a year.

    • @ninjafished
      @ninjafished 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Never once saw that ripped out circle in years of using them...

  • @MJAHANDYMAN
    @MJAHANDYMAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    was contemplating purchasing one of these..until now, Thank You!!

  • @jimzumbababa6608
    @jimzumbababa6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you do what I do to mark the location of studs. I don't trust my ability to visually trace down the wall, so when I find the stud I use a long straight edge to mark the center line. I never miss a stud, I just follow the line down. Also, I wish I had known about those drywall dimplers a couple of years ago before I bought and used them! Hopefully I coated the screws solidly enough to keep them from popping.

  • @Jeff_Engineer
    @Jeff_Engineer ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see how the dedicated drill would be best, but with the right dimpler geometry you won't be scoring the paper. It all depends on the tip geometry. I've bought several different brands and some have the bit too far up in the sleeve, some have sharp corners on the dimpler face, and others are nicely rounded. I favor the type with the impact driver notch on the shank so they don't fall out, and a broad flat face with rounded corners. That broad flange distributes the impact over a wider area and minimizes the chance of a paper score.

  • @MichaelTasse
    @MichaelTasse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of these but in my 120year old victorian the wood is too hard it seems, and it can't screw in all the way, any tricks

  • @ianhubbard9516
    @ianhubbard9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Huh, I just did my whole basement with those and didn't get any scored paper.

  • @FD-dh2fu
    @FD-dh2fu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info! Thanks. Is there a video or helpful tips on a crack say 12 inch long on finished sheet rock painted due to house settlement? I would assume you cut out the crack and you fill it but do you fill it with compound? What’s your best practice? Thank you

  • @nicklee7588
    @nicklee7588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of a Senco drywall screw strip gun.

  • @claudews529
    @claudews529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Dimplers and do not have this problem. BUT I've noticed, appart from using a bad dimpler, that not everyone get good result (lots of ripped paper). AND I have to admit dimplers are not dumb-proof as a drywall screwgun.
    Still, I'm glad you brought it up.
    Thx

  • @coreyg7255
    @coreyg7255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just hung my 750 sq ft remodel/addition on my house with the simple drywall dimplers. No torn paper that I recall. I think it has more to do with the brain of the user than the tool being used in this case. The guys I hired to mud and tape were impressed with my hanging work, so there's that. And I absolutely hate doing drywall.

  • @coreygrua3271
    @coreygrua3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My DeWalt dimpler, with a DeWalt impact driver, doesn’t score paper. My friend’s Mikita dimpler and driver do, however.

  • @dnad1522
    @dnad1522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used them dimplers before I never experience that issue the only complaint that I have with them is they suck for inside corners and sometimes fall off the slide

  • @alanmatthews9260
    @alanmatthews9260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one I use doesn’t score the paper. But, if it did, it will be covered by mud, yes?

  • @Peter-.H
    @Peter-.H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Short and sweet !
    Thanks for the great tip. 👍

  • @Spurphy
    @Spurphy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They make them that do not spin with the bit. The dimpler bit is a sleeve over the bit that does not spin when it contacts the drywall

  • @tomwood3794
    @tomwood3794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used that bit alot, no tear through problems

  • @msk3905
    @msk3905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I install drywall at a rate of about one sheet per year since I only do it with my random renovations, I would love that screw gun but can’t justify paying for it or storing it. I don’t know what to say I love your videos but my simpler doesn’t score every screw? Have you tried another one, maybe you got a bum one, are you putting too much pressure on it? Yes some don’t go as planned but 95% sink perfectly.

  • @whatusername1234
    @whatusername1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try using them with a screwdriver or a drill with mechanical clutch. Use low speed and experiment with the torque setting. Also keep the dimpler bits protected from getting damaged by coming in contact with other tools/metals so that they won't form sharp edges that may damage the paper. Try using something like the dcf601 12v screw driver with these.

  • @madnut666
    @madnut666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos but yeah I did a whole room with a dimpler and not one hole had scoring, there may be a small dent in the form of a circle but the paper is not damaged. I think Arnold got a hold of a drill with a dimpler and did those.

  • @sharonforbes2816
    @sharonforbes2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Bosch dimpler works perfectly on a Dewalt drill and impact driver. I never tore the paper. Maybe it's a bad one he's using?

  • @joeschmoe6021
    @joeschmoe6021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "dimpler" I have does not seem tear the paper. The rim is pretty thick so maybe the load is spread over a large enough area that it does not cut the paper. But thanks for giving me something to watch for an make sure it doesn't tear the paper.

  • @raypoulette5796
    @raypoulette5796 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never had a problem but them drywall guns I've always have problems in the corners

  • @KorbenDallas
    @KorbenDallas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used a dimpler and have never torn paper like that, probably because I set my clutch on the drill to about half.

  • @tabascocrimson7865
    @tabascocrimson7865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Occasionally use this thingy and is it has never done something like this. Mostly in cases when I got hard to reach locations (with 90* attachment)
    This guy probably got a very worn out one and had to push hard to get the screw to an acceptable depth.

    • @darriuscole8544
      @darriuscole8544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or he may have some issues with his drill and is pushing to hard trying to compensate.

  • @TheQueQuer
    @TheQueQuer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using this on a DIY basement reno, and haven't seen any scoring?