How Fast Should You Swing Your Driver?! UNEXPECTED Results!🤯
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This video is awesome. Broke my ankle a few years back and when getting back on the golf course could only swing slowly at the beginning. It allowed me to find my true golf swing, lower my ball flight, swing on plane and hit the centre of the face more consistently. It changed the way I approached the game and started shooting lower scores. Great video guy!
Thanks Ryan! Sometimes an injury reveals something good doesn't it.
I can totally confirm this, yesterday I won our club championship with what was felt 50% speed with all clubs. With my drives I lost perhaps 10% distance but gained 1000% accuracy and shot the best score of my life so far. Oh and I only play with one arm. I still get GIR distance wise easily, but these days, especially us men have become obsessed with distance to an unhealthy degree. It's not what you need to shoot low scores, surely not if you can't control it. But I suggest we start focusing our worshipping more towards ball-striking. TBH even when I was a bit obsessed with distance, I always got more tingles from watching Oosthuizen or Els hit an iron, than Dechambeau destroying his driver...
Congrats!
Awesome work, well done. It just show feel and real are way off.
Totally agree. I just won the US Open and was swinging at 80%.
@@jonathanpeel989 LMAO
I wish I saw this 2 years ago at release date. I’ve struggled for 3 years now trying to dial in driver. I was swinging massively trying to get distance increase and just learned I was working on the wrong thing completely. In theory, now I know what to work on.
Had one of my best rounds after pulling a hammy playing footy. Strapped up and in pain it made me swing slower. Generally my driver swing is too hard for my age and body!! This is a wonderful video that reminds me to swing more in control rather than smashing drives. My bad back thanks you both 😁
Great experiment - I find when I slow down everything coordinates better with only a minor loss in distance & id rather have a more accurate shot than an extra 20-50 yards as that 2nd shot off the fairway vs out of the rough with trees lowers my overall score & is a more satisfying game 😁
Makes a massive difference doesn’t it Chris!
Something I learned when I used to club fit for golf galaxy back in 2014-2016… most players when trying to “crush” the ball, swing about 5mph SLOWER than their “fairway finder” swing. For me at the time, I swung about 107-110 trying to kill it, and about 113-115 swinging “smooth”. (Now I’m fatter and have a bad back and those numbers are more like 98-102 😞)
I tried this, 50% on all clubs, got around in just 144 putts! :] Great video guys, hope you're enjoying the move :]
This is so right on. I was told by playing partners to swing slower. When i made the switch i felt as if i was hardly swinging but contact improved dramatically.
Awesome Robert. Glad this is working.
I’m a newbie and I have just realized that I hit better when I don’t try to bomb it. It’s all about consistency and how I’m more consistent when I take it slow. Now I have a baseline swing and stance I can start using the speed. Great video
This is such a great idea! I can't tell you how many times on the course I have thought "just swing smooth and get this in play" and it ends up being the longest drive of the day. I did this yesterday on the 18th hole with several friends and hit the longest drive of my life on course at 310 yards of total distance, and I would guess it carried around 290 - 295. I am not historically a long hitter as my average carry with driver is around 265. I have started a new routine with driver the past few weeks that seems to have helped a lot. My first practice swing "feels" like a 60% swing, then I make practice swings back and forth until it feels uncontrolled, losing balance on the follow through or I lose the feel of the clubhead/face control. When I step into address the ball I try to feel like I'm swinging roughly 10% under where I lost control and I've hit the best, longest and most accurate, drives of my life. I'm also peppering the sweet spot with ball marks on my driver which is a great feeling. The dark colored cnc milled face on my Cobra Speedzone shows impact marks extremely well like most drivers with dark colors. It's like having built in strike spray!
Exactly Brandon. It's such a good think to actually test too to find out other options for certain situations
@@meandmygolf. I will definitely be doing this during my next trip to the simulator using a GC Hawk launch monitor.
Love this. I'm currently struggling with a shoulder injury and I've had a left knee issue for years now (that's what got me in to golf, every cloud ay). I will try this 50% swing effort, I think it would especially be beneficial with the first tee nervs during comps etc.
Hope it helps Lou, let us know how you get on👍
Great video! I definitely could implement this in my practice because on course I feel like I’m always trying to kill the ball with driver and I have no clue where my ball is going to finish. Thanks guys!
Give it a go and let us know how you get on Dusty.
My best drives are when I aim for a feel of 80%. My worst drives are when I aim for 100% or more. You are spot on here!
I coach high school golf in Michigan. I do coaching session called "Driving School" . I have the kids swing as hard as they can with out stopping 3 times. Then I tell them the speed limit is 50mph (50% power) once they start hitting efficiently I bump up the speed limit to 70mph (70% power) . They usually find that they hit more fairways and don't lose much distance.
Love this Beau. Awesome work with the kids. FUN too which is crucial.
This is really good information. I recently started slowing down my swing and it's had a positive result. Less tension in the arms. I'm still adjusting to you guys in your new location. No more Astbury & painkiller.
Great to here. We love The Astbury and miss it already. We will be back though.
Amazing how relaxed and actually slow most of those swings looked when focusing on the body movement. You should do a follow-up video on exactly how you're generating the speed given the relaxed appearance of the body and even arm movement.
I'd love this
Great video and experiment. I am glad I wasn't going mad the last few sessions at the driving range. I kept trying to understand why my normal stock swing and my all-out swing weren't producing a bigger difference.
Give it a go next time you get out there Aaron.
This is a brilliant video, I've recently slowed my driver swing speed and finding loads more fairways and getting good distance, it just feels nicer to play like that and stay in play more
Good to see the results. I recently started to make a conscious effort to slow down my driving in order to make it more consistent and have noticed I am definitely hitting it much straighter as well. I would say I was around 60% currently.
Really interesting isn’t it Jay! I just feel a lot more comfortable now🏌️♂️
It is, I have previously been tempted to try harder but end up just hooking it as I am obviously focusing so much on power and not technique. But slowing down slightly has meant I focus more on a clean strike rather than trying to get the extra 10/15 yards.
Best round of golf I've ever had was after a car accident. I had a broken ankle, bruised ribs, strained neck, concussion and countless bruises and abrasions. The best I could do was a ten percent swing with limited range of motion. My drives were all over 290 and I hit 16 greens in regulation. Two holes in one, two eagles and on albatross. Truly a magical day, I don't remember any of it because of my morphine drip but my friends tell me about it every time we play.
One thing to remember above all...
Strike is king...👌
I find if I try to go to slow with any club then clubface control becomes an issue and I start leaving it open...
I think i see on your channel before when Dustin Johnson said he has never hit a driver at 100% even in practice...
Totally agree. Find the swing that allows you too strike it best👍🏻
Great video - I found I could get away with it when I was young but now the slower swing “feel” is essential for me to get a great compressed ball strike consistently - thanks as usual 🙏😊
Thanks Michael. It's amazing the difference it feels to how far it actually goes.
You sir have an effortless power swing. I would've never guessed your stock swing gets you 119mph clubhead speed let alone the 70% that got 109. Incredible. Great video and I agree 100%.
I would have preferred to see another item on your grid - accuracy! Other comments indicate accuracy improves with lower speeds but how did your drives perform on accuracy?
This video is so well timed. My best drives this year have been when my swing feels painfully slow.
Something in that Bobby. Follow what works,👍🏻
Really good video and idea guys. I'm down with covid atm, but as soon as I'm well I'm going try your experiment. Accuracy not distance off the tee (for my age!) has always been 1 of my main problems. Thanks again. Good luck in the States BTW.
Glad you enjoyed it Brian and hope you feel better soon.
Awesome driving hole… love 15 at the farms
This is so true. One of the biggest if not the biggest swing killer among amateurs is overswinging. Great job gents!
Very interesting. I've been struggling big time with driver transitioning off speed training and taking it to the course. I tried 50/60% swings but had problems with face control and sequencing. Similar i notice some of your easier swings had worse dispersion hook/slice, you didnt call out where ball went L-R numbers. I need to figure out how to swing 50% but "free" and not obsess about clubface control.
I have to be honest neevr a great fan of you guys how ever this is right on the money
When I slow my swing speed down my drives don't go as far but they are more accurate. I think I concentrate too much on how long my drives go because I'm mindful that my playing partners can hit their drivers a long way with faster club head speeds. Great experiment guys!
Totally changed the way I approach the game.
Had a similar experience last year about 3 months after shoulder surgery. Doc said only pitching and chipping but I had a buddies golf trip scheduled so I "pitched" all of my swings, including driver, and played well (for me 😉) , far more accurate. Although launching bombs is very satisfying. :)
Yeh it's definitely still good to give it some! Nice to have some other options too Rich👍🏻
I normally swing around 90%. I do use the 70% swing though when I’m injured, not quite feeling my 3W, but don’t want full distance or I’m really nervous. The 70% swing doesn’t loose too much distance, maybe 20-30m but I do sacrifice a lot of carry. Handy swing to have in the bag though
Definitely one to have in the locker though Paul.
Nice video. Have sometimes the same feeling on the course. Small fairway, I hit 50% feeling to keep it straight.
Would be nice to see what happened to your dispersion if you went to 110% and 120% and overdrive shots
I played Chambers Bay with a friend of mine who played collegiate golf in the states. I was swinging hard 100% on everything other than pitch shots. He told me to think 80% on my swing and the results were amazing.
This is a really interesting video.
Now how about a 110% shot like I always want to do lol
😂😂
I relate to this, I’m relatively new to golf and i think my swing is slow. I get greater accuracy and distance then when i try to swing quicker. I have a much better round when i swing slower.
Great to hear Stuart. It's definitely worth practicing these different speeds.
You guys are really good, you don't need to do the shocked expression + hyperbolic headline on your videos.
I tweaked my wrist in a 2 day 4 ball a few weeks ago so haven't been able to really go after it lately. I went and played a very tough course and barely missed a shot all day. Probably should teach me something about how I should be swinging.
Like a blessing in disguise isn't it Jacob😂
Yeah but if I'm being honest I can't really wait for it to heal so I can go back to nuking it into the woods again haha. But it definitely opened my eyes especially on tight holes just how much easier it is to hit a 70% squeeze fade into the middle.
I'm 65, started golf in 1999, HCP 8.5. Played yesterday at home course and tagged a drive that felt 'easy', and sent the ball 255. When I 'try' to swing harder it misses right and I lose 30 yds. Seems like 'the smoother, the farther'. Friend says I swing like Fred Couples' grandmother :) Still fighting the urge to 'hit it' on the downswing, but find it's better to follow George Knudson's advice: "Don't play golf to relax, but rather relax to play golf."
There is some sorcery behind Andys swing anyway, already the first (normal) one with 119mph looked like 50%.
Yeh my swing definitely looks slower than it is. I think partly due to the speedo if my back swing.
Great one here fellas!
I find this to be 100% true with driver. Though with my irons, I struggle to get a proper strike unless I go all out. If I try and take some off I chunk it or thin it.
I definitely only hit at 60 to 75 percent at 90 mph club head speed and manage a carry of 230 metres which isn’t far short of my mates going full power. In fact at 100 percent I only see an increase of 20 metres carry and run the risk of spraying the ball and missing the fairway. 👍🏻🇦🇺
Love the concept. Great idea.
Test it out next time you get to the range Dan
Swinging slower smooths out the transition which in turn helps with distance, it's counter productive but the smoother you swing the further you'll hit it. A good swing thought to have is say 'Sam Snead'. Bottom line is slow your swing down to a blur and you might have a chance lol
Great experiment. I swing out of my boots and wonder why the ball goes sideways! Will definitely try reigning it in a bit, as I am insanely talented!!
Cool info boys 👍🎾
I recently hurt my back and my physical therapist said that, if I want to play golf this summer, I had to swing at no more than 50-60%. I am now swinging really slowly but I have never driven the ball better. My backswing doesn't go past 90 degrees (about to my stomach) and I have to take it back extra slow (think Matsuyama tempo with John Rahm's backswing length). I then start down slowly and accelerate after the ball, but not massively. It feels like a long pitch shot. But I am not only hitting more fairways but, because I am hitting the middle of the club face more with the much slower swing, I am only losing about 8-10 yards. With my irons, I lose almost exactly 1 club. I was shocked because, I figured a 50-60% swing would equate to about 70-80% of the distance, but my distance is about 90-95% of what I was hitting before the injury. If my back starts feeling better, I want to ramp it up to 70-80% swing but, based on what is happening and what you saw in this video, I should be getting closer to my old distances without feeling out of control. I will no longer swing at 90% or higher - I am almost 60 and back injuries don't just go away. GREAT VIDEO.
Love it Bradford. These injuries help us find out a few things😂
Since we’re on speed & distance, I have a question maybe you can answer here, or maybe address in a video…. My home course, hole 8 has a wide creek about 280 gets there, takes 300 in air to carry. Anything that lands near 260 gets there when it’s dry because the landing zone is significantly down hill. My 3 wood often gets into the creek, but my next club down (3iron) leaves me a solid 40 yards short cause it doesn’t touch the slope. This leaves me a long 2nd on this par 4. Is there a good way to take some off of 3 wood?? (like 10 yards max) tee it higher? Choke down? Just want to know the general consensus option here.
I will absolutely give this a try on the range this week. My driver has been killing my scores lately so maybe I need to dial it back a touch
Let us know how you get on Nick.
@@meandmygolf. fellas I love this approach! Tried it last night during warmup and then on the course for men's night. Hit the most fairways I have in 7 rounds and perhaps more importantly I found that I still had energy remaining by the last few holes. Play smarter not harder 👌
I think every amateur needs a radar device like prgr or simple speed radar.
I spent years! Trying to hit a bucket of balls 300yards(actual yardage 180-200). Speed sticks did not work initially. Until!! I got a prgr.
Now:
I see mph! Now using prgr with speed sticks got my speed from 92mph to 100-104 currently.
Problem I spent years thinking I was swinging 100-120, but I likely maxed at 90mph.
PRGR got me to rethink swing mechanics(dr kwon). Now I know in the morning my approx speed and some days it's 95mph. I know with this speed my bucket is only going 95x2.5 approx.
Making progress slowly.
Key is swing mechanics and loading properly.
Great advice here. But the first one wasn't nearly 119mph. The flightscope has it misses. 119mph is Rory's avg clubhead speed and he usually cranks it hard.
Swing “speed” is unique to each player. It’s easier for me to draw the ball, by smoothing things out. However, my fade requires me to turn fast. This makes perfect sense for me. A patient swing allows me to come more from the inside, and release the club a little earlier. Swinging fast kicks the shaft out more, to slightly cut across the ball, and the release is slightly later.
@Roenie I actually did that yesterday when my buddy hit one in play(scramble). I felt myself slide hard, but not get too “spinny”. I think it’s where I swung so hard, my left side felt the need to apply the brakes. lol. The result was a longgggg ball, with a little draw. I play ball control golf, and usually shoot somewhere around par. I don’t feel comfortable swinging at it that hard. However, I might be onto something. Haha Great post by the way…. I understand what you’re saying. I’ve literally experimented with everything. The right shoulder down, under, and through is actually when I play my best golf. Great advice for ANYONE, my friend.
I had some terrible driving days trying to "hit" the driver, turns out I don't deliver the club properly doing this. Now my main swing thought is "senior swing" as I gently hit the center of the club face up into the ball, the ball launches with very little spin, and I'm happily on the fairway. When I TRY HARDER, it all goes to hell :/
Hi, I get the prospect of more consistent direction/results and that the lower % feel does not lose so much speed but isn’t the loss of carry really significant vs stock when you drop % effort and for people like myself with much lower carry getting to GIR wouldn’t happen, certainly at 70% or less effort. If stock shots are widely inconsistent and low effort is the remedy that would be different but isn’t the need to get consistent distance (remedy the core issue) in order to get to GIR?
Great video, any chance of developing it further by a follow up video of say 80/90/100% with dispersion & distance stats for each?
I always swinging driver at my maximum effort. Try to get my back to target and rip the living day lights out of it. It takes that much for me to get the distances you get at 50% effort
Great video guys and such a good experiment, thank you. As you said Andy, sometimes the brain takes over and you feel you have to bomb the driver. Something for me to try. Hope your time in the states is going well?
Ahhh I am currently at 200% and on the right rough ❤️
My stock drive is like 260yrds and in wider fairways i hit it a bit harder and get maybe 280-290yards once a round 👌 feeling strong on keeping Ball in play but my
Great stuff really enjoyed this and will be trying it 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, let us know how it goes🙌🏌️♂️
I recently did the same after a disastrous round... On the driving range I reduced the power of the shot on every club and the results surprised me... I was able to get the same distances I usual get with every club but with 50% swing speed and my accuracy went way, way up... On the next round I played I dropped 17 strokes off my score using 50% swing speed...
Great to here!!
@@meandmygolf. Now now, lads! Just because you're in America, that doesn't mean you don't have to spell correctly. It's "hear".
Has Andy been on the Mexican supplements?!! Slow is smooth smooth is fast sums up his swing for me.
I’m still trying to work out how that stock drive can be 119mph, crazy stuff when most people look like they are jumping out their shoes to get to 110+!
Great info, but now I'm getting distracted by being homesick for San Diego. 😁
I’d say my gamer swing for my driver is 90-95% swing at 112ish MPH? I’d be curious to see what speed training would do to this concept…a gain in speed but a 75-85% swing but maybe closer to what was previously 80-90% swing.
I’d like to think I’m around 80% but as the round goes on and I try to force it I try smashing the life out of it 🤦🏻 defo going to book a sim and try this out and try find a happy medium 👍
Test it on the range Kevin and see what you get.
Great tip! Thanks guys… I struggle badly with my driver!
hope it helps William!👍🏌🏻♂️
@@meandmygolf. I do too!! I’ve followed you guys for a while now and just now downloaded the app as well. I gotta figure this driver out
Andy’s swing always looks smooth and slower than what it actually is…119mph looked 50% ha loved the video guys
Glad you enjoyed it George!🙌🏌🏻♂️
Maybe a follow up to this with an iron measuring the distance from the pin? Might solve the choose one extra club or muscle up on the shorter club debate.
Thanks for the suggestion Adam. 👍🏻
I recently backed off to about 80% swing on my driver and am now consistently hitting it farther than I did when I was full swinging.
Slower swing increases consistency of strike. Finding the middle of the club face will improve strike and accuracy 100%. On Saturday morning I'll still swing out of my under crackers 😂
I cut my swing in half and just happen to strike the center of the face, I've been usually outdriving all my long driver friends, the 3 wood goes 225, and I can control the ball flight
Strike is king.
I’m sure I can break into the 80s with a decent Tee shot. Shot a 94 on Sunday with terrible tee shots.
The compromise between head speed and face contact location is what undoes my drive. So I no longer put all my energy into a drive - it's probably around 80% effort. Off-center strikes make a total mess of any flight direction or curvature on the ball. At 80% I get a regular strike and more reliable results. However, my stock drive at 76 years of age is never more than 200 yds.
You've found your sweet spot Ian. Hope things are good!
Currently at 130% and can’t get off the tee, need to try this.
95%
I need to figure how to get get better sequencing and tempo into my swing to increase my speed and distance. My current 92-95mph swing speed just doesn't carry the ball far enough for the effort I put in. I guess I'm not finding the middle of the face either!
Back swing and pivot motion is such a key thing for that Ryan. Check out our Total Driving plan on our website. So many great things inn there to help.
It`s so odd to see Pierce and Andy make a video and they`re not at the Astbury. There`s a better chance I can come have a lesson now that we`re on the same continent! I hope the move went well. All the best!
I just started working on overspeed training and when I swing my normal golf course speed (90%) it usually turns out to be the same as my 100% swing. I would have liked to see the ball speed and/or smash factor for each of these percentages so we would know how well you hit each one.
There were a couple I miss hit but most were pretty good for strike. Next time wew ill show a few moire numbers👍🏻
@@meandmygolf. Thanks for your resonse.
You guys have moved to San Diego?
The 119mph stock shot is wild because Andy looks like his normal swing is about 80mph. Zero wasted movement and great at creating that lag...it's like these guys know what they're talking about!
Yeh it's amazing how things look compared to measure too. Hope you enjoyed the video.
My stock shot with all my clubs is about 70% to 80%
Such a cool vid, speed Is a big deal these days .
I swing the driver around 80% and its roughly low 90mph. My 100% swing is horrible, unpredictable
Glad you enjoyed it Sean!
Before all my shots, I tell myself swing 80% and follow through all the way. When I actually listen to myself, the shot is great. When I don't listen, well the shot isn't as great. There is really something that tempo has that ultimate speed does not...
I'm cackhanded and feel this affects my club speed. I swing all out at 101 club speed and max I can get to is 250 yards. It annoys me watching you guys swing 50% but still reach 103 club speed. I've tried to change from cackhanded but just cant
I always thought that for every mile an hour of speed equals Around 5 yd of distance so if you're taking off 10 miles an hour of speed that could be a loss of forty to fifty yards of distance
Just wondered how tall you blokes were?
Look at you driving (car not golf club) so easily in a left hand drive vehicle! You certainly have eased in quickly to driving in America!
Had a few trips over the years to help us ease in when we eventually moved!😂
Hi lads why do my irons go 100yds+ then go right need help
The harder I swing the straighter it goes. I have to feel like I'm accelerating. If I ease into it, I steer, and lose accuracy and power. If you understand path and face, and ball flight, you can swing as hard as you want and keep it in play.
Love it. Find what works for you and that is all the matters 👍🏻
Great video, I tried to use the Mevo Discount code and its coming up as invalid? Just making you aware of this incase there is a issue.
Just looking into this now Rich👍
Tiger, in his ‘00s prime, talked about how he used 75-80% of his max.
interesting data points to know: no need to swing out of one's shoes!
Easy swing gives greater precision and so the outcome is better.
My only drive swing thought which really covers good rhythm, tempo and strike accuracy is… “70%”
The lads must be back visiting the TM Kingdom!
Definitely visiting soon.