I always found it hysterical when a raider calls the brotherhood tyrants yeah because RAIDER means diplomat and your totally not gonna use those rockets to force people to obey you huh?
I know it’s probably a gaming limit or an attempt to show how much the brotherhood relies on recruiting outside members but I just think it’s funny that they knew the Appalachian brotherhood was getting wrecked so bad they wanted to use the nukes, and when they lost contact maxson is just like “ehhh yeah 5 people will do” I suppose he probably didn’t have the numbers to spare anymore but I can’t get over how hilarious it is.
5 people is enough for a scouting mission, and they had a scribe to reestablish communication with the main body. Plus it would be more like 3-4 tanks and a scribe. Remember lore wise power armor is a powerful tool.
its a shame that while Maxson wanted to make the brotherhood a group that would preserve technology AND help the people of a worn torn United States that had lost hope by everyone working together to use the preserved technology to rebuild the world that was destroyed. but everyone else around Maxson, even Elizabeth Taggerdy pressured him to have the brotherhood shut out and not trust everyone else not born into the brotherhood faction, this resulted in the west Virginian chapter of the brotherhood isolating themselves and started to make enemy's of the surviving groups of Appalachia by forcefully stealing technology and research projects from the people (the scorched detection system as an example) they were originally to protect and work with, the people and organized organizations began to distrust the brotherhood not even believing the very real threat the SB posed on the region that lead to the almost complete wipe-out of the Appalachian population and beyond to the Scorch Beast. The outcast in fallout 3 and the brotherhood in fallout 4 all say that some chapter Elders that felt that helping the people of the wasteland was more important the strict preserving technology was leading the brotherhood "astray" ironically the elders of the past that they idolized and worshiped where the ones who lead them and whole future brotherhood astray from its original purpose. IMO the brotherhood under paladin Rehmani in fallout 76 and elder Lions fallout 3 are the closest thing to Maxsons original goal of brotherhood of steel.
Agreed. Rahmani and Lyons both valued technology, but recognized the importance of saving lives even when it detracted from the mission to preserve technology.
A hundred percent agree why are we hoarding this technology? It does no one any good sitting in a room gathering dust the old world failed due to ignorance and we can fight that ignorance with knowledge because knowledge prevents tragedy’s. And the greatest tragedy is wasting the lesson the old world taught us. That technology used in ignorance for the purpose of greed can only lead to destruction.
@@IrresoluteCartographerand that’s why the brotherhood is now seen as evil because they have fallen to corruption even if Arthur maxson has reform them they still are not good
Its also interesting to point out that the dove necklace you find on that rescue mission with Marsha reminds her of her mothers necklace, she says as much, which implies that its the very same necklace, meaning the Crater raiders are the exact raiders that killed her family to begin with, the same raiders shes now attempting to join because she blames the Brotherhood, who armed her family for protection and lost a highly respected member, for the death of her family more than the raiders that actually killed them and, whether knowingly or not, would rather join them instead.
That's a good theory about the necklace, but I don't think that it's Marcia's mother's. According to Burke (the raider that owned the necklace), they used to work as a guard for some unnamed man that treated them poorly. Piece, who was a prisoner of this man, treated Burke with kindness, earning their allegiance. When Sheena arrived, the three of them decided to leave. Burke could have killed the former employer, but took the necklace instead as reminder that they didn't kill him. If true, this makes it unlikely that it ever belonged to Marcia's mother.
I agree with her she’s correct hoarding tech does nothing if you never teach others how to use it properly they’ll use it incorrectly against you outta fear
In my Canon, Rahmani won , no contact was remade with lost hills and Night Shin left , by the events of fallout 1 the appalachia brotherhood had a new name and was never mentioned by lost hills again and by the time of fallout 4 it was believed by the brotherhood to of failed. Maybe the brotherhood of fallout tactics was sent to west virginia and crashed in Chicago, maybe if Shin made it back to lost hills and the brotherhood elders wanted to make sure Rahmani and her decendance didn't go rouge
That’s an interesting take. I think there has to be some sort of event that strips them from the western Brotherhood’s records, because I feel like we would have had to have heard of them in the other games otherwise. The records in the Citadel would certainly have made some record of the First Expeditionary Force, given it’s location.
Maybe Chicago chapter made contact in 2197 somehow lyons heard from Chicago and thats why scribe rothschild in f3 States they went woke , BTW in m6 Canon the orange bos flag is only Canon in f4 not f76 , Bethesda used assets from f4 in f76 , so for me taggerdy just used the thunder flag and rahmani used the original lost hills flag
I went with Shin. Rahmani basically betrays the reason why the Brotherhood was created in the first place. Recruiting west-tek scientists, who can't even be trusted, didn't do much to instill confidence.
@@IrresoluteCartographer Yes this is how Bethesda created needless plot inconsistency - because it does not comply with story of BOS in F3. (They came from California passing Pitt and have no idea about Appalachian BOS). Stop thinking about small justfications. Take a wider picture. Bethesda writers are so lazy they cannnot do it.
@@IrresoluteCartographer One idea for what happens to the Appalachian BoS is the early emergence of the Enclave. The Whitespring Bunker and the automated silos are too big a force multiplier to ignore, so it'd be high on the list for the Enclave to retake. Outnumbered and most certainly outgunned, the Brotherhood dies fighting.
Fallout Tactics was my first fallout so since then I'm big on the BoS and the lore behind it, so to me it felt like everything that Rahmani did went against their tradition and the reason that they perdured. Rahmani is how I discovered you can't kill npcs... i tried to execute her mid questline. It felt so right later on when after many bad decisions and BoS betrayals I had the option to put her down.
I'm not really a fan of what Bethesda is doing with the story at the Whitesprings. It'd make more sense to see a resurgence of the Enclave instead of the Responders. The residents of Vault 76 literally coalesced there to become Enclave members and ultimately took down the scorched. Meanwhile, there's a growing Brotherhood chapter. Basically a prequel to the rivalry in Fallout 3.
I’d have preferred that they left the interior of the Whitespring untouched, as it felt like a perfectly preserved slice of the old world. Now it’s just another survivor camp, albeit with some fancy surroundings. I think we’re going to see the Enclave re-emerge from Mount Weather. It seems like too perfect a situation, given the real world site’s location and purpose. My guess is that we’ll get an expedition there powered by BoS Ultracite battery cells, rather than any supplied by Orlando. I’m also really hopeful that the Mount Weather does host an improved version of the tech at the ATLAS Observatory, and we get to see some snow or something like that, but we’ll just have to see.
Having done this quest three times now, Marcia's an idiot. Burke killed her mother and stole her dove necklace. Burke was with the raiders that assaulted that settlement, and she's so blind she'd rather blame the brotherhood, or her own family for fighting back, instead of the literal people that caused her family's death. She was insufferable. And I really wanted to like her too because of her voice actress, but ugh, open your eyes! How did Burke get that necklace?
The necklace belonged to Burke’s former employer. The employer was apparently a nasty guy who treated Burke poorly. When Burke, Sheena, and Pierce fled his place, Burke took the necklace instead of killing him. If you believe Burke’s story, it’s a coincidence.
After all of this I can't understand why some player choose Knight Shin side. His ideals are the reason why the First Appalachian Brotherhood fell. Taggerdy changed decision (thanks Maxson!) to refuse to cooperate with other faction & only keeping technology for their own were the reason they failed to defeat the Scorchbeast.
Aye inso Would you be willing to make some guides on how to find the lore ? It sounds weird but basically for people who wanna go read and expiernce the lore insted of watch you could show them witch quests and terminals to read
I have read every note and terminal, hacked every terminal, listened to every holo recording, and listened to all dialogs... exhausting all dialog options while playing FO since FO 3, 4, New Vegas and now 76 (in progress still lol). All the lore is there as you play if one takes their time to explore. One of my gamer traits is "I love to explore" lol The guide you speak of would be awesome but such a magnum opus of research (I think) would be a massive time sink that could easily preclude doing lore videos in general. Especially on console. You might ask a PC lorist to do that as they have access to nearly all game files. There might even be a web site that specializes in that that info. One very important thing game lorist do is they pull together all that information found in game as they play...then present it in a (hopefully) cohesive 'connected' way in the fashion of 'story telling. Since, as we play like regular gamers we can forget about things we found or fail to make connections between bits of info as we are just playing the game. Lorist play the game for the lore to help make sense of the lore in a chronological manner. I imagine that that play style is super time consuming in and of itself and that is not including the time it takes to collate all that info, confidence checking that info, editing the videos, voice considerations: voice over and such.
Not exactly time flow, but time does advance. When the game launched, it was 2102. When the Wastelanders update launched the clock moved to 2103. When Steel Reign launched the clock moved ahead to 2104
And I am sure there are subtle changes in the games environment, every time I go to organ cave after an update it feels like the water in there has risen a little
Do you not have to join the Enclave in order to access the silos and play with the big boy nukes as well as the Enclave exclusive goodies? Is there another way besides just tagging along with someone who has access and a friend dropping the Enclave goodies?
This is why I've concluded 76 can't be cannon. Or the other games aren't. How is it possible Taggerdy and Maxson were in direct communication. The west coast was aware of Scorchbeasts and had even determined they were a threat to the entire country. Then loses contact. Becomes worried. Sends another force. Presumably one that never establishes communication. But during the events of Fallout 1 not a mention of what roughly 50 years previous was one of the worst post war threats. No mention when they sent forces to Washington such a short distance away. Ultracite is how we know Layla's Brotherhood doesn't make it. That's tantamount to discovering fire in this world. It would not be forgotten. 5 years after its discovery it would have been being shipped all over the rebuilding world. So we also know Shin never made it back. If he did he would have told of an unlimited power source and Maxson would have sent half his force or more. It just doesn't add up the more I think about it.
Taggerdy was already in Appalachia, she and her army rangers were participating in war games when the bombs came down. I’m sure you know that, but just to be clear for other readers, the First Expeditionary Force wasn’t another force, it was the first to make the crossing from California. Taggerdy was originally able to contact Maxson because the satellite network was still intact. That network began to fail in the years after the war and was completely unusable by 2093-2094. After that point they lost contact completely. When The Brotherhood’s First Expeditionary Force arrived in Appalachia they were supposed to establish long distance communications but didn’t. We don’t yet know what happened after this point and before Fallout 1. My best guess is that the Western Elders learn of Paladin Rahmani’s betrayal, and they remove the expedition member’s records from the archives. As for Ultracite, it’s created through subterranean nuclear detonations (in coal fields specifically, I believe). The Brotherhood would likely never allow for the creation of more of it, given their stance on nuclear weapons. Beyond this, it’s not an infinite source of power, it depletes, and once it does, it becomes highly reactive with non-depleted Ultracite. I wouldn’t be surprised if over time this creates massive problems for Appalachia. How long until one of those old Ultracite mines, like the glassed cavern, has a chain reaction take place that causes all the Ultracite that is naturally depleting over time to come in contact with the still viable Ultracite, and it blows the entire cranberry bog into the stratosphere.
"Meh every single piece of lore wasn't included for me in the world of a game made 30 years ago so that means the current game can't be cannon." Keep coping. Either you're a 40-something year old complaining about lore in a video game, or you just jumped on the very recent (as in the past 5 years) bandwagon of people who played the the original top-down games because they're too proud to say they enjoy a Bethesda game. Whichever the case, you've got a pretty pitiful personality.
I mean most likely Shin made it back to lost hills reported everything as in the clear and rahmanis actions their names and deeds were stricken from the great codex and thats why we have no prior lore to them
@@IrresoluteCartographer darn I thought for sure I scored some points for the enclave by convincing her to cut all communications lol. Oh well still felt fun.
The Brotherhood isn’t the benevolent saviors of the wastes. They’re a militant organization with a mission. As Protector Henry Casdin so greatly put it in Fallout 3, “We were collecting still-glowing embers from the ashes of humanity, before civilization's fire died completely.”
That’s what they became around 2086, but prior to that, when they had just made the switch from ex-army unit to Brotherhood, they had two equally important missions: the preservation of technology, and the protection of the people. It was after this shift that they started down the path toward the Brotherhood of the other Fallout games. Paladin Rahmani was there when that switch happened, and she wasn’t happy about it, hence her desire to get out of the reach of the western elders, to basically restart the Brotherhood on its original goals.
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Thrilled to see an update from what is easily the best Fallout 76 lore channel. Appreciate you, Irresolute!
I always found it hysterical when a raider calls the brotherhood tyrants yeah because RAIDER means diplomat and your totally not gonna use those rockets to force people to obey you huh?
I know it’s probably a gaming limit or an attempt to show how much the brotherhood relies on recruiting outside members but I just think it’s funny that they knew the Appalachian brotherhood was getting wrecked so bad they wanted to use the nukes, and when they lost contact maxson is just like “ehhh yeah 5 people will do” I suppose he probably didn’t have the numbers to spare anymore but I can’t get over how hilarious it is.
If the scorch beast threat hadn’t been brought to heel by the dwellers of 76, the expedition would have been in for a real bad time, haha
5 people is enough for a scouting mission, and they had a scribe to reestablish communication with the main body. Plus it would be more like 3-4 tanks and a scribe. Remember lore wise power armor is a powerful tool.
its a shame that while Maxson wanted to make the brotherhood a group that would preserve technology AND help the people of a worn torn United States that had lost hope by everyone working together to use the preserved technology to rebuild the world that was destroyed. but everyone else around Maxson, even Elizabeth Taggerdy pressured him to have the brotherhood shut out and not trust everyone else not born into the brotherhood faction, this resulted in the west Virginian chapter of the brotherhood isolating themselves and started to make enemy's of the surviving groups of Appalachia by forcefully stealing technology and research projects from the people (the scorched detection system as an example) they were originally to protect and work with, the people and organized organizations began to distrust the brotherhood not even believing the very real threat the SB posed on the region that lead to the almost complete wipe-out of the Appalachian population and beyond to the Scorch Beast. The outcast in fallout 3 and the brotherhood in fallout 4 all say that some chapter Elders that felt that helping the people of the wasteland was more important the strict preserving technology was leading the brotherhood "astray" ironically the elders of the past that they idolized and worshiped where the ones who lead them and whole future brotherhood astray from its original purpose. IMO the brotherhood under paladin Rehmani in fallout 76 and elder Lions fallout 3 are the closest thing to Maxsons original goal of brotherhood of steel.
Agreed. Rahmani and Lyons both valued technology, but recognized the importance of saving lives even when it detracted from the mission to preserve technology.
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A hundred percent agree why are we hoarding this technology? It does no one any good sitting in a room gathering dust the old world failed due to ignorance and we can fight that ignorance with knowledge because knowledge prevents tragedy’s. And the greatest tragedy is wasting the lesson the old world taught us. That technology used in ignorance for the purpose of greed can only lead to destruction.
@@IrresoluteCartographerand that’s why the brotherhood is now seen as evil because they have fallen to corruption even if Arthur maxson has reform them they still are not good
As a newbie to Fallout, this literally helped me understand the lore for the Brotherhood of Steel. Thanks.
Fantastic to see another video by you really deep dive of the lore that I appreciate
Its also interesting to point out that the dove necklace you find on that rescue mission with Marsha reminds her of her mothers necklace, she says as much, which implies that its the very same necklace, meaning the Crater raiders are the exact raiders that killed her family to begin with, the same raiders shes now attempting to join because she blames the Brotherhood, who armed her family for protection and lost a highly respected member, for the death of her family more than the raiders that actually killed them and, whether knowingly or not, would rather join them instead.
That's a good theory about the necklace, but I don't think that it's Marcia's mother's.
According to Burke (the raider that owned the necklace), they used to work as a guard for some unnamed man that treated them poorly. Piece, who was a prisoner of this man, treated Burke with kindness, earning their allegiance. When Sheena arrived, the three of them decided to leave. Burke could have killed the former employer, but took the necklace instead as reminder that they didn't kill him.
If true, this makes it unlikely that it ever belonged to Marcia's mother.
Very comprehensive, fact filled and enjoyable vid! Thanks for all the hard work I know you put into this and all your other vids!!
I agree with her she’s correct hoarding tech does nothing if you never teach others how to use it properly they’ll use it incorrectly against you outta fear
In my Canon, Rahmani won , no contact was remade with lost hills and Night Shin left , by the events of fallout 1 the appalachia brotherhood had a new name and was never mentioned by lost hills again and by the time of fallout 4 it was believed by the brotherhood to of failed.
Maybe the brotherhood of fallout tactics was sent to west virginia and crashed in Chicago, maybe if Shin made it back to lost hills and the brotherhood elders wanted to make sure Rahmani and her decendance didn't go rouge
That’s an interesting take. I think there has to be some sort of event that strips them from the western Brotherhood’s records, because I feel like we would have had to have heard of them in the other games otherwise. The records in the Citadel would certainly have made some record of the First Expeditionary Force, given it’s location.
Maybe Chicago chapter made contact in 2197 somehow lyons heard from Chicago and thats why scribe rothschild in f3 States they went woke ,
BTW in m6 Canon the orange bos flag is only Canon in f4 not f76 , Bethesda used assets from f4 in f76 , so for me taggerdy just used the thunder flag and rahmani used the original lost hills flag
I went with Shin. Rahmani basically betrays the reason why the Brotherhood was created in the first place. Recruiting west-tek scientists, who can't even be trusted, didn't do much to instill confidence.
@@IrresoluteCartographer Yes this is how Bethesda created needless plot inconsistency - because it does not comply with story of BOS in F3. (They came from California passing Pitt and have no idea about Appalachian BOS). Stop thinking about small justfications. Take a wider picture. Bethesda writers are so lazy they cannnot do it.
@@IrresoluteCartographer One idea for what happens to the Appalachian BoS is the early emergence of the Enclave. The Whitespring Bunker and the automated silos are too big a force multiplier to ignore, so it'd be high on the list for the Enclave to retake. Outnumbered and most certainly outgunned, the Brotherhood dies fighting.
Been listening to these lore videos at work and they are so interesting! Keep it up!!!!
Every time i hear "The Hellcats" i'm reminded of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 "Hellcats" movie heckling.
Bro I love how in one part of the video it just shows one of the initiates walking through the rubble like it wasn’t even there😂
Video games and movies have taught me that literally nothing is unkillable if you want it dead bad enough.
Fallout Tactics was my first fallout so since then I'm big on the BoS and the lore behind it, so to me it felt like everything that Rahmani did went against their tradition and the reason that they perdured. Rahmani is how I discovered you can't kill npcs... i tried to execute her mid questline. It felt so right later on when after many bad decisions and BoS betrayals I had the option to put her down.
Great video! I think fallout 76 version of the brotherhood is one of my favorite
Kinda bummed there isn't an Enclave: A Real Blast event for Fort Atlas so I can clean out the vermin in Appalachia.
'Paladin', 'of the palace' sounds like a bureaucrat to me.
Marsha was an idiot. "Oh i dont want to join the Brotherhood because they are evil and barbaric" then joins the raiders...
I'm not really a fan of what Bethesda is doing with the story at the Whitesprings. It'd make more sense to see a resurgence of the Enclave instead of the Responders. The residents of Vault 76 literally coalesced there to become Enclave members and ultimately took down the scorched. Meanwhile, there's a growing Brotherhood chapter. Basically a prequel to the rivalry in Fallout 3.
I’d have preferred that they left the interior of the Whitespring untouched, as it felt like a perfectly preserved slice of the old world. Now it’s just another survivor camp, albeit with some fancy surroundings.
I think we’re going to see the Enclave re-emerge from Mount Weather. It seems like too perfect a situation, given the real world site’s location and purpose. My guess is that we’ll get an expedition there powered by BoS Ultracite battery cells, rather than any supplied by Orlando. I’m also really hopeful that the Mount Weather does host an improved version of the tech at the ATLAS Observatory, and we get to see some snow or something like that, but we’ll just have to see.
Heck yeah!! Epic job!!
Having done this quest three times now, Marcia's an idiot. Burke killed her mother and stole her dove necklace. Burke was with the raiders that assaulted that settlement, and she's so blind she'd rather blame the brotherhood, or her own family for fighting back, instead of the literal people that caused her family's death. She was insufferable. And I really wanted to like her too because of her voice actress, but ugh, open your eyes! How did Burke get that necklace?
The necklace belonged to Burke’s former employer. The employer was apparently a nasty guy who treated Burke poorly. When Burke, Sheena, and Pierce fled his place, Burke took the necklace instead of killing him. If you believe Burke’s story, it’s a coincidence.
Great video.
After all of this I can't understand why some player choose Knight Shin side. His ideals are the reason why the First Appalachian Brotherhood fell. Taggerdy changed decision (thanks Maxson!) to refuse to cooperate with other faction & only keeping technology for their own were the reason they failed to defeat the Scorchbeast.
Aye inso
Would you be willing to make some guides on how to find the lore ?
It sounds weird but basically for
people who wanna go read and expiernce the lore insted of watch you could show them witch quests and terminals to read
I have read every note and terminal, hacked every terminal, listened to every holo recording, and listened to all dialogs... exhausting all dialog options while playing FO since FO 3, 4, New Vegas and now 76 (in progress still lol). All the lore is there as you play if one takes their time to explore.
One of my gamer traits is "I love to explore" lol
The guide you speak of would be awesome but such a magnum opus of research (I think) would be a massive time sink that could easily preclude doing lore videos in general. Especially on console.
You might ask a PC lorist to do that as they have access to nearly all game files. There might even be a web site that specializes in that that info.
One very important thing game lorist do is they pull together all that information found in game as they play...then present it in a (hopefully) cohesive 'connected' way in the fashion of 'story telling. Since, as we play like regular gamers we can forget about things we found or fail to make connections between bits of info as we are just playing the game.
Lorist play the game for the lore to help make sense of the lore in a chronological manner. I imagine that that play style is super time consuming in and of itself and that is not including the time it takes to collate all that info, confidence checking that info, editing the videos, voice considerations: voice over and such.
I have to say I think mount weather is enclave base just saying
YAYYYYYYY NEW VIDEO
Incredible!
If thornberry didn’t say smashing at least once imma be mad
Imagine Knight Shin is responsible for bringing the Enclave back to the area lol.
Wait is there time flow in F76? I thought that PIP BOY timer stopped on fixed date.
Not exactly time flow, but time does advance. When the game launched, it was 2102. When the Wastelanders update launched the clock moved to 2103. When Steel Reign launched the clock moved ahead to 2104
And I am sure there are subtle changes in the games environment, every time I go to organ cave after an update it feels like the water in there has risen a little
Forced to join the enclave? We played very different games
Do you not have to join the Enclave in order to access the silos and play with the big boy nukes as well as the Enclave exclusive goodies?
Is there another way besides just tagging along with someone who has access and a friend dropping the Enclave goodies?
So much better than playing the game....almost i guess.
Thanks for the video! I found myself choosing to side with Shin for just about the whole quest. Ramani was too loose with the rules
Always trust the Brotherhood to turn to stupidity
With spell stupid with the s
😊
This is why I've concluded 76 can't be cannon. Or the other games aren't. How is it possible Taggerdy and Maxson were in direct communication. The west coast was aware of Scorchbeasts and had even determined they were a threat to the entire country. Then loses contact. Becomes worried. Sends another force. Presumably one that never establishes communication. But during the events of Fallout 1 not a mention of what roughly 50 years previous was one of the worst post war threats. No mention when they sent forces to Washington such a short distance away. Ultracite is how we know Layla's Brotherhood doesn't make it. That's tantamount to discovering fire in this world. It would not be forgotten. 5 years after its discovery it would have been being shipped all over the rebuilding world. So we also know Shin never made it back. If he did he would have told of an unlimited power source and Maxson would have sent half his force or more. It just doesn't add up the more I think about it.
Taggerdy was already in Appalachia, she and her army rangers were participating in war games when the bombs came down. I’m sure you know that, but just to be clear for other readers, the First Expeditionary Force wasn’t another force, it was the first to make the crossing from California. Taggerdy was originally able to contact Maxson because the satellite network was still intact. That network began to fail in the years after the war and was completely unusable by 2093-2094. After that point they lost contact completely. When The Brotherhood’s First Expeditionary Force arrived in Appalachia they were supposed to establish long distance communications but didn’t. We don’t yet know what happened after this point and before Fallout 1. My best guess is that the Western Elders learn of Paladin Rahmani’s betrayal, and they remove the expedition member’s records from the archives. As for Ultracite, it’s created through subterranean nuclear detonations (in coal fields specifically, I believe). The Brotherhood would likely never allow for the creation of more of it, given their stance on nuclear weapons. Beyond this, it’s not an infinite source of power, it depletes, and once it does, it becomes highly reactive with non-depleted Ultracite. I wouldn’t be surprised if over time this creates massive problems for Appalachia. How long until one of those old Ultracite mines, like the glassed cavern, has a chain reaction take place that causes all the Ultracite that is naturally depleting over time to come in contact with the still viable Ultracite, and it blows the entire cranberry bog into the stratosphere.
"Meh every single piece of lore wasn't included for me in the world of a game made 30 years ago so that means the current game can't be cannon." Keep coping.
Either you're a 40-something year old complaining about lore in a video game, or you just jumped on the very recent (as in the past 5 years) bandwagon of people who played the the original top-down games because they're too proud to say they enjoy a Bethesda game. Whichever the case, you've got a pretty pitiful personality.
I mean most likely Shin made it back to lost hills reported everything as in the clear and rahmanis actions their names and deeds were stricken from the great codex and thats why we have no prior lore to them
So you can’t stop paladin ramen from breaking the transmitter? Lame
Unfortunately there’s no changing that plot point
@@IrresoluteCartographer darn I thought for sure I scored some points for the enclave by convincing her to cut all communications lol. Oh well still felt fun.
Shin forgot something crucial justice is blind not heartless
The Brotherhood isn’t the benevolent saviors of the wastes. They’re a militant organization with a mission. As Protector Henry Casdin so greatly put it in Fallout 3, “We were collecting still-glowing embers from the ashes of humanity, before civilization's fire died completely.”
That’s what they became around 2086, but prior to that, when they had just made the switch from ex-army unit to Brotherhood, they had two equally important missions: the preservation of technology, and the protection of the people. It was after this shift that they started down the path toward the Brotherhood of the other Fallout games. Paladin Rahmani was there when that switch happened, and she wasn’t happy about it, hence her desire to get out of the reach of the western elders, to basically restart the Brotherhood on its original goals.