Enoch Powell on Population Growth, Cultural Shifts, and Societal Impact | The Dick Cavett Show
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- Explore the complexities of immigration as we delve into the challenges of population growth, cultural shifts, and their profound impact on society. Gain insights into the speaker's perspective, acknowledging responsibilities and proposing solutions. Join the conversation on navigating these issues for a better understanding of the evolving landscape.
Date aired - May 14th 1971 - Enoch Powell and Jonathan Miller
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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Dick Cavett was/is a brilliant interviewer. He's genuinely interested in people. After providing the most economical stimulus, he then just fades into the background to let them speak. So few who reach the top of his profession can do this: it's all about them. This particular interview is one of the most serious and penetrating with Powell I have seen. He was a deep thinker with prodigious grasp of his subject and knowledge of the wider world and its history, and an impressive and accomplished man. Yet most interviewers spend half an hour trying to get Powell to admit he was a "white supremacist". This interview is a rare exception.
Yeah I like his calm interviewing style.
Whatever side of this argument you come down on, this puts into stark contrast just how much both television and society has dumbed down over the years. 🤷♂️
Every day someone says to me "ENOCH WAS RIGHT"
Really, every day? I'm 61 years old and no one has ever said that to me, not once in 61 years.
@@madeleinebell559 You are mixing with different people to me, so we are both correct.
@@madeleinebell559 Don't hang out with self-hating liberals then.
@@Powerhaus88 Don't be silly, do you really think in 61 years I have only met, worked with or talked to one group or type of people? Now you are making yourself look dumb.
Are these people who say this to you in the room with us now?
He was bang on
Enoch Powell is a Hero to an increasing number of British Patriots! He had the courage to say what had to be said!...
This man deserves our full RESPECT!
Amen.
He also spearheaded the closure of mental health wards which are now sorely needed.
So true. Its the numbers. His prediction has come to fruition.
Enoch Powell is laughing beyond the grave, “I was right!”
He loved his country too much to be "laughing". Britain will be a Degenerate cesspit by 2040
Crying I suspect
I doubt he’d be laughing about this.
In the end, powell was right
Far right. Very wrong.
and IS still right.
Bill Maher wishes he had this kind of candor on his program.
well, he doesn't have the intellect.
Only now yam listening......he was right
When Enoch realized he was sitting next to a fool he did not get angry; he doesn't feel indignation (or at least doesn't show it). He simply framed the rambling retrospectively with one word "splendid." And the audience instantly realized what they just heard was entirely vacuous, and the man sitting before them isn't a man at all, but rather a collection of antirational superstition.
Sorry Mr. MIller, but a british Nana never blew up a concert full of teenage British girls.
Jonathan Miller was so supercilious and patronising, trying to blind with his vocabulary but it didn't work!
Can he be given a Knighthood posthumously!
I never realized there were so many do gooders around back then. I thought virtue signaling as a policy choice was a new phenomenon. I guess it's always been easy to act like you deeply care about something when it doesn't cost you anything to say so. This kind of pretending has cost the west dearly and it's still going strong today. Those in charge of making immigration policies are never affected by the consequences of their own ideology. It's easy to say "let everyone in" when you live in a gated community with private security.
Brilliant debate. So has England faired better or worse, and has the culture stayed intact since this Cavett episode originally aired?
He predicted the future and as he stated here he underestimated the problem
better for some worse for most.
considering his political party has been in power for most of these years, worse.
@@PrimeGroup-m3q chortle
Blair is the architect of the current state of Britain.@@chaipup7045
Enoch was right look at uk now
Truth/honest rhetoric, improves health of nation
Jonathan Miller was such a vapid shallow performer, he did not even seem to understand the meaning of the terms he threw around. Just After Enoch Powell has finished saying the numbers (an EMPIRICAL fact) were underestimated by all including him and one has to take the challenge of the incoming numbers seriously, Miller starts an annoying lecture on how RATIONALISM can seriously undermine the EMPIRICAL validity of an argument. Without daring to even confront the EMPIRICALLY valid facts that Enoch had arrayed both in his infamous speech and in the studio. Miller then goes on to provide just the sort of pesuo-RATIONAL or RATIONALISTIC argument he accuses Powell of, by asserting that unless a folk be told by an agent in office, they will have no problem with their ethnic replacement on mass scale.
bless. We're still here and Enoch is still wrong.
@@chaipup7045 Did we listen to the same Enoch Powell? Enoch is still wrong?
@@chaipup7045 Yeah he was wrong, he underestimated the numbers.
Early life
Miller grew up in St John's Wood, London, in a well-connected Jewish family. His father Emanuel (1892-1970), who was of Lithuanian descent and suffered from severe rheumatoid arthritis, was a military psychiatrist and subsequently a paediatric psychiatrist at Harley House.
And today, the highest anxiety are faced by Jewish Brits due to the Arab Palestinian violence and a week British government.
Enoch Powell: the greatest Prime Minister Britain never had.
Only for the bigots.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
@@TheDanEdwards....No----Only for the Honest and Courageous.💯😃
He was a racist and everything he says here has been conclusively and obviously proven wrong. So yeah, the kind of person who’s been running Britain for a while now.
He shouldn't have been a prime minister because he had to be a monarch.
Where can I find the whole thing?
the battle of who can use the most and best vocabulary, cavett looked confused about what they are talking about🤣🤣
The most vindicated politician ever.
The intellectual vs the Theater kid.
What was Miller even on about concerning old people? Does he not know that an affinity for your own family far surpasses any generational differences?
Thank you. 👍
If we had listened to such harsh truths, instead of the gentle lies of the pro-immigration stance, this country would be a vastly better place.
It literally wouldn’t, given his underlying motivation was exactly what we got economically.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
Yes. We should have listened to Enoch. 💯
I really think you need to be much more concerned about the white politicians who have been running the country. They are horribly, dirty liars and ruining the country. Some low class family in Birmingham is not what is dragging down the economic system, the education system, the health system of the country
Well said,
'the influx from the land of the dead'
They weren't sending their best.
Today's discussion on this very topic is a carbon copy of this 53-year-old clip: Facts against feelings, purveyors of facts being accused of stirring up hatred, and a belief that closing our eyes will make problems go away.
But there's also a difference. Leaders speaking out back then, were of a different intellectual calibre than now. Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, Donald Trump... It's sad to see.
Dick Cavett sounds like the NeoCon William Buckley.
Lots of people in the comments will say Powell was right. Between 1995 and 2019 immigration to the UK went up by 166%. In the same years, crime fell by 40%. The city with the most immigration (London) is also the city with the strongest economy. The rivers here are not red with blood, they are brown with sewage
I'm guessing they weren't moslems.
@@dreadfulspiller8766 Maybe you're just a bigot.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
London has a strong economy because of the financial sector of The City/Canary Wharf. Crimes went down because a lot of them ceased to be recorded (like how drug possession is just ignored by police these days). Immigration under Blair, Cameron et all has been disastrous.
@@ls1476...💯Truth
Johnathan Miller's argument is fallacious. While an increasing population brings its own very startling challenges both economic and cultural, this is in fact a reason to limit migration, and thereby not further add additional strain and stress on culture and economics. Yet bizarrely he posited this metaphor/analogy to somehow defend policies which add further to be burdens naturally advanced by an ageing population. Our ancestors earned the right to be here and we wouldn't be here without them. Just because on average they're living longer whether due to healthier live styles or medical science doesnt give a free pass for the entire world to come here to settle. Silly logic, and Powell adequately rebuts and compartmentalises them as mutually exclusive.
Post Brexit and previously, Powel's case is more than adequately rested. Additionally it can be seen here who and why the present demise of UK upon whom that rests and UK's Globalist social migration catastrophe vs. 'rationalist' policies that unfortunately were superceded is responsible for (hint: it ain't Powel). Timely historical revisit. RIP UK Additionally, globalst not only marshalls argumentation in favor of effective euthenasia but outright Malthusianism of the old. A perfect reveal if there was one. Thanks for these uploads.
Keep crying.
Powell’s literal motivation was neoliberalism. Or globalism as you call it.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
@@TheDanEdwards ..not crying. Affirming a flaw in the grand design. Fk off btw & good holidays.
Not much of an argument.@@TheDanEdwards
Enoch was a fool
Enoch Powell deserves a posthumous knighthood!
It will be done.
An intelligent man and I broadly liked what he had to say, but he made some grave errors on domestic policy, as he advocated for the abolition of mental health wards.
"by the turn of the century"..by god he nailed it there and this was 1972.....Best PM we never had by far...rest well enoch.
My Lord, Miller is the epitome of the cosseted elitist, completely unsympathetic to the way those who aren't upper clahhhsss have to live.
Do you mean Powell? Miller here was defending the immigration of foreign workers
@@jdawe390 yes, whom he could insulate himself against the culture and lifestyles of. Powell was advocating on behalf of the ordinary people of Britain. They could not afford to do so.
Without exception, people like you have never had Third World cultures forced upon them. You have the money to buy yourself distance from them while you inveigh against the supposed racism of those who do not.
@jdawe390 No. Powell was not upper class. His dad was headmaster of a primary school, but he was self-made. Passes his 11+; went to gammar school; scholarship to Cambridge; spoke several languages; Professor at the age of 25; joined the army as a private and rose through the ranks to become brigadier; etc; etc. This information is publicly available. In fairness, Miller wasn't Upper class either. They both came from a middle-class background.
Dick Cavett had some amazing shows. Brilliant talk show host.
Regardless of one's position on the issue at hand, it must be admitted that this level of intellectual debate is seldom seen in public forums - political or otherwise - these days. Dr. Miller and Enoch Powell were both well-skilled in the form of verbal exchange that allowed ideas to be constructed and conveyed in a respectful, collegiate manner devoid of ad hominem, straw dog tactics, non-sequiturs, and other fallacious reasoning. How I wish we could return to this more civilized time!
Christ, Miller was so oleaginous.
Interesting prayer
"Not live in a fools paradise" - Enoch 😅
he honestly compared unlimited immigration from foreign countries to letting our senior citizens live a bit longer in grace and comfort?1
He really didn't think the old person argument through....it was so ridiculous
Owner of the channel got shook that powell was getting too much support haha. Orwelian guys
Fairly bonkers!
He was a Daring, Truth Teller.💯
Yes, Miller isn't all there...
@@wraithby that nonsensical ageist argument, he got his dues at the end.
God Bless Enoch! R.I.P. 🇺🇸✝️🇬🇧
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
TH-cam says 38 comments, but I only see 32.
the american audience: tell them a fairy tale and they clap
This episode was filmed in London.
Powell....is Brilliant and What he's said has come true. That's Why he's Attacked and Labelled. He's UNMASKED what's happening Then..and Now.
Powell’s motivation was neoliberalism. This stuff was his mask.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
What a great conversation. My generation needs this type of disburse!!
They're heads are too filled with Rediculous Nonsense & Propaganda. They DON'T understand Critical Thinking...but they'll Live the Outcome.
Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.
There are still racists around, even some in the Conservative Party!
Enoch Powell was a highly intelligent and erudite man and one of the great political orators of his time in politics. He was also a racist and profoundly wrong, not just about the problems facing the UK but also the remedies needed to solve those problems.
I love Jonathan Miller 💞
He makes a fool of himself here.
He did indeed. Apparently Mr Miller believes that a family living in a house on fire would not know to be fearful or afraid unless and until a government official alterted them to be so. @@septimiusseverus165
I love Enoch Powell 💔
Enoch was on the ball !