G'DAY MATE Love your videos just bought my first quad YFZ450R I'm 55yrs young learning alot enjoy watching you and Peter Hager ride keep up the good work 😁
My old ‘86 ATC 350X was a dream to wheelie. I’ve got a 2014 TRX450R.....not so easy! Guess I need to go back to the basics and start practicing .....great video man!
Im honestly just watching because it popped up on my thing im pretty decent at wheelies these days. But I wanted to say I like how you're wearing a helmet. Such an underestimated piece of equipment if you aren't gonna wear anything else wear a helmet and a pair of boots of some sort protect your head and feet at a minimum. Cool video man
I’m going to Pennsylvania to try this out I’m only 140 pounds and the main problem was standing it up thank you now I know how to start one and pray I don’t die
yo omg i hit my first one when i went there i forgot to reply but it was awesome thanks for the tips :D didnt even get close to crashing the only time was when i did donuts in second gear and went on two wheels.
I was always pretty much a natural at wheelies on my warrior within a week of having it I was riding wheelies in sixth gear WITH NO REAR BRAKES but this is still a really great video
So today on my 1986 fourtrax 350 4x4 I pretty much just used the clutch in 2nd to see how fast I can go from 0 to 30 I ended poping my front end up lol scared me but I didn’t fall so I came to see how to control it and it seems pretty easy
I’m 14 and I got a yfz 450 about 3 moths ago and I’m still having trouble keeping it up, I can shift all the way through the gears but I can’t keep it balanced
I think it'll just be a matter of taking time and practicing that balance point. 450 power curves make it difficult to balance a wheelie but you'll get there I promise!
Watching this video and seeing some Wipeouts at low speed I think it makes me feel more comfortable about wiping out on a sport quad doing a wheelie , im always thinking about the quad flipping back on me and but after seeing your brother wipe out going a little faster the bike kinda just bounces back and lands back on all 4
I am learning to wheelie and I can do it pretty good on asphalt and concrete but I can’t really do it on dirt I do live in Arizona so the dirt is very dry and sandy the times I do get it up it feels not right as the tires spin a lot any tips for doing better wheelies in dirt?
Me personally I have a yfz450 2008 but I will start in 1 first gear at the slowest I can before it Boggs and dies so I give it gas but it just goes to like 8 or 9 o’clock and goes back down maybe because I was doing it on a gravel road and my tires where spinning I even tried popping the clutch and the same you think I should try it on sand because my tires have more grip on sand and asphalt please respond
any tips for automatic quads? reason for keeping arms straight? I'm trying to learn to wheelie I got past balancing point, bash bar scraped pave, my muscle memory instinct which was not a good idea was to try and pull myself up towards the handlebar but really I think I pulled the bike more towards going back over !
I don't have much experience on automatic quads but the arm lock is more of a beginner trick to make you stay back. It sounds like you have no problem getting the wheelie to its balance point so I would put a small bend in my arms and legs and once you get to your balance point you just have to manage throttle and you body position to keep going
@@BrewerOffroad thanks for quick reply, yeah it's the 2020 scrambler 1k so it comes up real easy, 900 lb machine so definitely don't want it coming over on me, thankfully the bash bar stopped it, yeah working on that throttle control, good video 👍🏽
Amazing Tutorial. Just Note that for your safety and not to damage your bike(like skid the grab bar, etc) choose a proper location to learn in my opinion the optimal location is a grass area or dirt.
any tips on getting the front end up, i only ride at the dunes with sand tires with a 400ex but i can’t get the front up and i’m not really good at clutch popping
I've never ridden dunes so I don't know how different it is to pop. But I'd imagine you need to be mid power band and pull up hard while leaning back hard.
So I just finished riding dunes with Pete Hager and the 400ex lacks power to do high speed wheelies so it takes alot of effort to get it up however 1st 2nd and 3rd you can get it up pretty well just have to be alot more violent than normal
Hey man really great wheelies. For stand up wheelies you should try standing on the wheelie bar instead of having your knee on the seat, It gives u way more control of the balance.
If you're going from a dead stop in 2nd to try and pop a wheelie it may bog or spin out it'll be alittle harder to do. If you roll in 2nd you'll have a better chance. 1st gear wheelies are best from a stop
Stretch your thumb after by pulling it towards your bicep. It takes conditioning to get rid of that pain. Also a new throttle cable and cleaning up the slide in the carb will help make the throttle push easier
I just brought a new atv I do not know what it’s called but all of my brake fluid poured out when I turned it on it’s side( like a idiot ) trying to fix my chain and I brought dot 3 brake fluid and do not know where it goes I need help
I'd work on your balance point and throttle management in first. It'll teach you alot because it's so hard to hold a long wheelie in first but you can do it 👍
Lean back and yank up. Commit to the wheelie. Don't let yourself lean forwards over the bars. Sit back and relax. Go low gear and commit to the wheelie
i have a raptor 80 which has a surprising amount of power for its cc, but i dont think enough to wheelie. with a huge pull upwards and pinning it i cant even bring it to a balance point. its just me trying to stay up as long as it has rpms left. ant tips or is it a no go until i get a bigger quad?
Depending on your weight you should be able to sit all the way back after you pop it up and get to the balance point. It'll be alittle tricky because it has less power but since it's a pretty light quad you influence it with body weight more. It'll take some playing around to figure it out but just keep trying 👍
@@JoeCaparo where you ever able to get it to wheelie? I've got an lt80 and it's great for wheelies. Your quad definitely should be powerful enough. Especially if you use your weight.
Please guide me, my father, I have a 125 ATV. Why does it happen that when I want to go straight, the ATV actually goes sideways, as a result it hits a trash can. what should I do sir? Kindly ask for tips🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hey just throw your weight back and give it a lot of throttle. I have can wheelie a honda foreman honda rancher 350 2wd and a 420 4x4. Also a 250ex by doing that
You have to either be at your pivot point and shift or be high enough in second that when you grab 3rd you get into your power band. You gotta be careful using the power band to pull you back up in a wheelie because it can toss you back really fast lol
@@BrewerOffroad when i get it up in 2nd im barely giving it gas to keep it up i had to order a peice for my back breaks so i cant use dem for stability or a saftey point
@@brandonjeffers7501 sometimes you have to really commit to the wheelie sit back with your arms straight and give it a tug. It's similar to how Travis Pastrana teaches backflips.
@@brandonjeffers7501 Gotcha so to me it sounds like you are in the sweet spot to ride a good long 2nd gear wheelie but in order to shift to 3rd you'll have to speed up the 2nd gear wheelie. To do that you just need to keep your front end below your pivot point and force yourself to use the throttle to speed up and keep the front end up and time your shift when you are second gear 75% RPMs and at your pivot and grab 3rd.
I definitely do I bought my first quad when I was 15 using money I saved up mowing grass. I know many people who didnt start riding until in their 20s. The important thing is the passion for the sport!
Brewer Offroad I can’t even dump the clutch and get it up cause it just spins I can shift in a wheelie now just wish I could get it up all the time I only can sitting down on pavement
I don’t even got a quad and I’m watching this
Me either but I want one
@@laderekaker1629 same
Same. I’m sad too because of it
Same
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Great job man. You have great wheelie control, your not gonna see me taking a hand off the bars anytime soon 😅
Thanks haha I normally do it just fine but I couldnt get it for the video to save my life lol
Nice man!
Hey Pete how do you feel about sand?
If you where to come to sand lake in Oregon would you record too?
Man, taking one hand off the handlebars on a wheelie is a mind thing it just looks scary I promise u right when u do it it comes second nature
G'DAY MATE Love your videos just bought my first quad YFZ450R I'm 55yrs young learning alot enjoy watching you and Peter Hager ride keep up the good work 😁
nice! ill be using some of these tips to get better at wheelies myself
Hope all goes well!
My old ‘86 ATC 350X was a dream to wheelie. I’ve got a 2014 TRX450R.....not so easy! Guess I need to go back to the basics and start practicing .....great video man!
I can do the tricycle for so long, I’m 12 years old trying to learn to do a wheelie on my 2007 Honda 250, this video definitely helped! Thank you
Good deal! Glad I could help!
Same thanks man
Hopefully going and getting a 400ex tomorrow this was definitely helpful.
Nice 👍
I just got my first race quad and its a 400ex and this will help me wheelie❤
Glad I could help!
Just got my atv 2 weeks ago I’m excited for this new journey
I'm excited for you!
Im honestly just watching because it popped up on my thing im pretty decent at wheelies these days. But I wanted to say I like how you're wearing a helmet. Such an underestimated piece of equipment if you aren't gonna wear anything else wear a helmet and a pair of boots of some sort protect your head and feet at a minimum. Cool video man
Just got a RAPTOR 700R special edition just learned how to ride it couple days ago now time to learn those wheelies💯
Be careful and have fun 🤘
Me too man, is it best to wheelie in first or second gear? I’m a beginner
I’m going to Pennsylvania to try this out I’m only 140 pounds and the main problem was standing it up thank you now I know how to start one and pray I don’t die
yo omg i hit my first one when i went there i forgot to reply but it was awesome thanks for the tips :D didnt even get close to crashing the only time was when i did donuts in second gear and went on two wheels.
I have a atc 70 and I do these tricks all the time!
Nice! I want to get a Honda 90 quad and do it lol
My heart is racing just from watching this lol I'm so scared to try but I want to learn lol
Start doing stand up wheelies in the grass
I actually just rode with Pete Hager and realized I need to do more stand up wheelies because they look alot better lol
@@BrewerOffroad facts, are they easy? I wanna learn and I just saw a 10 year old kid do them and it boosted my motivation
They take more upper body to do but I think they are alittle easier to maintain a good balance point
@@BrewerOffroad How about the stand up wheelies when you put your feet on the back bar of the quad. Not all quads have them but some do
I was always pretty much a natural at wheelies on my warrior within a week of having it I was riding wheelies in sixth gear WITH NO REAR BRAKES but this is still a really great video
Thank you!
What quad do u have that has 6 gears
Sounds like his Warrior has 6? Idk I haven't experienced warriors very much. However a Honda 250r has 6 gears.
@@BrewerOffroad didnt think about That so used to 4 sorry
No worries 👍
Hahahahahaha when we get to expert I lollldddd!!! New sub !! Nice man I love it !!
People take me too seriously sometimes haha I'm just here to have fun 🤘 thanks man!
Could you do a bicycle tutorial? I like the way you explain things.
Thanks and yeah I will for sure!
all you have to do is turn sharply
Fire Breakdown I’m practicing on a 350 raptor..!!
Nice! You'll get it!
i figured out how to do a bicycle on my 3 wheeler. so yeah. they are pretty fun.
Nice
I want to learn. The Yfz 450 threw me right off and I broke my tailbone, almost ready to try again haha 😂
Slow down and practice in the grass haha good luck next time!
So today on my 1986 fourtrax 350 4x4 I pretty much just used the clutch in 2nd to see how fast I can go from 0 to 30 I ended poping my front end up lol scared me but I didn’t fall so I came to see how to control it and it seems pretty easy
Heck yeah keep practicing 🤘
@@BrewerOffroad yea I will be Thankyou
Good job, great explanation 👍
Brewer I'm in middle school and all the kids there with atv's I walk them all. Also do a no hander?
Cool, I'm gonna try it out.
Most important thing is commitment
I’m gonna learn to whellie my 400 now 😂
Nice skill and control there
Nice vid going to try this out with my new quadzilla r100 I got for Xmas
Bro you explained it great !!! Thank you man
I’m 14 and I got a yfz 450 about 3 moths ago and I’m still having trouble keeping it up, I can shift all the way through the gears but I can’t keep it balanced
I think it'll just be a matter of taking time and practicing that balance point. 450 power curves make it difficult to balance a wheelie but you'll get there I promise!
I'm 14 too and I got a 2001 honda 400 ex with a stage 3 motor and it took a while but the more you do it the easier it will get
I can’t even pick up a wheelie for a second
@Buckkx how much you weigh man? 350s are hard to pick up if your like 130lbs
Thanks a lot. I will practice these steps for beginners thanks a lot man this will really help
Good tips, nice piece of land and shop. "expert" doing that on pavement wide open and living to tell about it
Do you keep your left hand throttling the clutch or once your in the wheelie do you only worry about throttle and back brake
Watching this video and seeing some Wipeouts at low speed I think it makes me feel more comfortable about wiping out on a sport quad doing a wheelie , im always thinking about the quad flipping back on me and but after seeing your brother wipe out going a little faster the bike kinda just bounces back and lands back on all 4
Great vid!!! Time to practice.
Can you make vid on how to throw the quad while turning i know how to lean weight and make it turn but cant jerk turn for nothing
Aw man I am so excited to try this my quad is in the shop rn and I can’t ride but I am totally trying this
Good luck and be safe 🤙
@@BrewerOffroad will do thanks
My wheelie bar broke off so im scared to do them for a longer distance
Just keep the speed alittle lower and make sure you are comfortable with hitting the back brake and you should be good!
I got my first one like 5 or 6 weeks ago lol and it's a coolster 150cc
Nice man!
I am your real fan
What shocks are you using hopefully getting a 400 this summer but nobody can point me in the right direction for shocks and yours seem pretty good
I use Honda 450 shocks on my 400s they are an upgrade but alittle on the stiff side
I am learning to wheelie and I can do it pretty good on asphalt and concrete but I can’t really do it on dirt I do live in Arizona so the dirt is very dry and sandy the times I do get it up it feels not right as the tires spin a lot any tips for doing better wheelies in dirt?
Me personally I have a yfz450 2008 but I will start in 1 first gear at the slowest I can before it Boggs and dies so I give it gas but it just goes to like 8 or 9 o’clock and goes back down maybe because I was doing it on a gravel road and my tires where spinning I even tried popping the clutch and the same you think I should try it on sand because my tires have more grip on sand and asphalt please respond
Thank you great video.
I think u should do a tutorial for bicycling🤘
Will do 🤙
You should add a wheelie bar so you don’t tip over or crash if you’re a beginner atv wheelie guy
Would u get a false set of confidence?
Great video... liked and subbed 🤙🏼
Thanks!
@@BrewerOffroad 🤙🏼
any tips for automatic quads? reason for keeping arms straight? I'm trying to learn to wheelie I got past balancing point, bash bar scraped pave, my muscle memory instinct which was not a good idea was to try and pull myself up towards the handlebar but really I think I pulled the bike more towards going back over !
I don't have much experience on automatic quads but the arm lock is more of a beginner trick to make you stay back. It sounds like you have no problem getting the wheelie to its balance point so I would put a small bend in my arms and legs and once you get to your balance point you just have to manage throttle and you body position to keep going
@@BrewerOffroad thanks for quick reply, yeah it's the 2020 scrambler 1k so it comes up real easy, 900 lb machine so definitely don't want it coming over on me, thankfully the bash bar stopped it, yeah working on that throttle control, good video 👍🏽
Nice!
Amazing Tutorial. Just Note that for your safety and not to damage your bike(like skid the grab bar, etc) choose a proper location to learn in my opinion the optimal location is a grass area or dirt.
What if the bike is super heavy I ride a built 05 trx450 and it’s super heavy it weighs in at like 430 lbs instead of the stock 350 lbs?
Principles are the same you just have to be extra violent. I can wheelie a Honda 420 rancher
Hy,what mods does your trx have?,i see it pops easly a wheely withiuth clutch,mine pops prety hard with 2 gear,i usually use the clucth...
Badass video bro💯
Thanks man 🤙
any tips on getting the front end up, i only ride at the dunes with sand tires with a 400ex but i can’t get the front up and i’m not really good at clutch popping
I've never ridden dunes so I don't know how different it is to pop. But I'd imagine you need to be mid power band and pull up hard while leaning back hard.
Make sure you have good paddles
And if traction is still a problem let air out
So I just finished riding dunes with Pete Hager and the 400ex lacks power to do high speed wheelies so it takes alot of effort to get it up however 1st 2nd and 3rd you can get it up pretty well just have to be alot more violent than normal
Hey man really great wheelies. For stand up wheelies you should try standing on the wheelie bar instead of having your knee on the seat, It gives u way more control of the balance.
Ya but you don't have much control for when you are going back.
What year did they put the key in the front like that?
I try doing a wheelie starting second gear but it just won’t pull up why it’s all stock and stock sprocket
If you're going from a dead stop in 2nd to try and pop a wheelie it may bog or spin out it'll be alittle harder to do. If you roll in 2nd you'll have a better chance. 1st gear wheelies are best from a stop
Ok
@@BrewerOffroad ok so I just tried doing a wheelie high in second and it just doesn’t want to
It's always fun doing hand drags on my 250
Do you have extended a arms? If so will mine break if I wheelie my quad. I just bought my 2007 trx 400ex today and am scared they will break.
What brand are they? They shouldn't have a problem at all with wheelies I've jumped mine a ton and I have zero problems
To be honest I have no clue. I finally just tried and it was fine. Thanks for the reassurance man
Could you do a automatic quad tutorial
Try the first one but use your handle bar brakes
Does it matter what gear it is in ? Or do you have to change gears while driving ??
Where do you suppose the engine oil goes when you are at extreme angles? Do you still have oil pressure?
Any tips on thumb pain after riding for awhile?
Stretch your thumb after by pulling it towards your bicep. It takes conditioning to get rid of that pain. Also a new throttle cable and cleaning up the slide in the carb will help make the throttle push easier
Accidentally popped a wheelie today, now i watching this
tnx a 1ot from Russia
No problem! Happy to help!
Is it as easy as he makes it look for me to try on my 700 raptor ?
I just brought a new atv I do not know what it’s called but all of my brake fluid poured out when I turned it on it’s side( like a idiot ) trying to fix my chain and I brought dot 3 brake fluid and do not know where it goes I need help
I got a warrior any tips on shifting wheelies I always let it down when I got too hit 3rd
Really gotta keep your weight back and stay above that balance point before you shift
I have a 92 Suzuki 230e and it only wheelies in first gear second gear doesn’t make enough torque but first gear is to slow to hold a wheelie
I'd work on your balance point and throttle management in first. It'll teach you alot because it's so hard to hold a long wheelie in first but you can do it 👍
my quad is rly hard to get up any tips
Lean back and yank up. Commit to the wheelie. Don't let yourself lean forwards over the bars. Sit back and relax. Go low gear and commit to the wheelie
which quad is that i don’t know much about quads but i want to buy one do you have any good ones that are good
2007 Honda 400ex
Brewer Offroad okay cause i’ve seen it and it looks nice and looks like it runs great
Thanks man!
i have a raptor 80 which has a surprising amount of power for its cc, but i dont think enough to wheelie. with a huge pull upwards and pinning it i cant even bring it to a balance point. its just me trying to stay up as long as it has rpms left. ant tips or is it a no go until i get a bigger quad?
Depending on your weight you should be able to sit all the way back after you pop it up and get to the balance point. It'll be alittle tricky because it has less power but since it's a pretty light quad you influence it with body weight more. It'll take some playing around to figure it out but just keep trying 👍
@@BrewerOffroad thanks dude! I can also do it popping the clutch, I think this is bad tho, so should I stop?
@@JoeCaparo where you ever able to get it to wheelie? I've got an lt80 and it's great for wheelies. Your quad definitely should be powerful enough. Especially if you use your weight.
Ya know.... you could have told me all this in person. Guess what I'm gonna try at work this week.....
🤣🤣🤣
what is the atv you are using in the video?
I tried this on my 700 raptor do you think it’s all the same or different because of power? I tried it pop clutch 2nd gear
How do you the bicycle trick?
Commitment haha I'll make a video on that!
@@BrewerOffroad Okay
In a week im getting my kawasaki kfx 400. Do you think it will be easy to wheelie on it?
It should be fairly easy to wheelie
@@BrewerOffroad Thank you, for the reply. I apreciate it
good tutorial!
Please guide me, my father, I have a 125 ATV. Why does it happen that when I want to go straight, the ATV actually goes sideways, as a result it hits a trash can. what should I do sir? Kindly ask for tips🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
What terrain are you riding on?
Can you show how to wheelie a ATV that has no clutch I have a ltz 250
I'll give that a shot!
Hey just throw your weight back and give it a lot of throttle. I have can wheelie a honda foreman honda rancher 350 2wd and a 420 4x4. Also a 250ex by doing that
@@FordRanger-ih9wq do I throw my weight back aggressively
@@FordRanger-ih9wq 1 or 2
Yeah you can I was just gonna make a video on it
Have any tips for someone trying to wheelie on a 250x? Little different than a 409.
Same principles apply just more violent on the sit back and pulling up
Dude i had a 06 250 thing is dont be a bitch. Give it hell and fuckin 1st gear throw weight back and give gad
Dude man you can wheelie a friggen 90cc if you wanna, just man up hit the gas and lean back bro! 🤙
Will this help you graduate to motorcycle
Awesome content im going to have to go Rip
I ride a clutch dirt bike 125cc and looking to get a trx250 2020
Nice! A 2020 would last forever if you maintain it well 🤙
@@BrewerOffroad wow. I'm upgrading from a 110 automatic to a trx250 but I know clutch and shifting since I have a manual dirt bike
Good deal happy for ya!
Is that on an EX 400 Honda ??
Yup! 2007 Honda 400ex
Is it bad when it stalls?
Not really
I’m 110 pounds around lol so it’s kinda hard to pull it up any tips?
Lots of throttle and clutch manipulation if you have aclutch and then sit back really fast while pulling and goosing the throttle
Brewer Offroad awesome thanks I’m going to try this and I’ll tell you how it goes 🤟🏼
Alrighg sounds good man!
Tried the knee thing bent my grab bar
Mine is bent as well from getting too far back and burying the bar in the dirt lol
Ive got a question hiw do you shift gears in a whellie i always start in 2nd every time i try to shift into 3rd it drops
You have to either be at your pivot point and shift or be high enough in second that when you grab 3rd you get into your power band. You gotta be careful using the power band to pull you back up in a wheelie because it can toss you back really fast lol
@@BrewerOffroad yea i was trying to bring it up in 3rd its not getting up there i have a 400ex
@@BrewerOffroad when i get it up in 2nd im barely giving it gas to keep it up i had to order a peice for my back breaks so i cant use dem for stability or a saftey point
@@brandonjeffers7501 sometimes you have to really commit to the wheelie sit back with your arms straight and give it a tug. It's similar to how Travis Pastrana teaches backflips.
@@brandonjeffers7501 Gotcha so to me it sounds like you are in the sweet spot to ride a good long 2nd gear wheelie but in order to shift to 3rd you'll have to speed up the 2nd gear wheelie. To do that you just need to keep your front end below your pivot point and force yourself to use the throttle to speed up and keep the front end up and time your shift when you are second gear 75% RPMs and at your pivot and grab 3rd.
do you shift gears or stay on 1st
I have a ltz 400 any tips?
Honestly I have none I haven't owned or ridden one. Maybe I'll buy one to try it out
Bruh I loves quads fr imma ask my mom or dad for one in the morning
How u wheelie without a clutch?
I dont plan on doing a wheeli becz im to scared but im watchin this
I don’t even have A quad 🥺but im trying to get 1 but you know how hard that is when your only 14
I definitely do I bought my first quad when I was 15 using money I saved up mowing grass. I know many people who didnt start riding until in their 20s. The important thing is the passion for the sport!
Brewer Offroad that’s exactly what I’m doing im Mowing lawns
Did you get a quad yet?
Cowboy 91LOL no Probably get one this month or next month tho
@@bananadude2374 Do you know what kind you are going to get or not??
When you shift in the air you use no clutch right?
Yes always try and use your clutch to shift
Does it matter how heavy ur quad is
Yeah if your alittle front end heavy or motor heavy then it might be difficult to pick up the front end but it can be done!
Do you use the clutch when starting your wheelies or just hit the throttle and shift weight backwards?
If I'm sitting still I pop the clutch if I'm rolling mid RPM I'll just use throttle but I use the clutch more times than not just because its easier
I got a 250ex and I’m scared to try
Just do it in first on flat ground and you'll be fine!
@@BrewerOffroad all right I got a question about it does mine have the feature where the clutch in not required to be used? It’s a 2004 250ex
Your 2004 shouldn't have a clutch lever. It should be a rear brake lever. So no you can just shift using the foot lever 👍
@@BrewerOffroad thanks
I have a 2004 arctic cat dvx 400 and it is tall, If I fail a wheelie I'm going to hit the ground so hard like I have before
What year is your wheeler mine is a 03
2007 🤙
How can I get mine up in the grass it just spins
Don't use as much throttle or sit back further and it should hook up
Brewer Offroad I can’t even dump the clutch and get it up cause it just spins I can shift in a wheelie now just wish I could get it up all the time I only can sitting down on pavement
Are your tires pretty bald?
Brewer Offroad no my tires still got a lot of tread
Thats weird. You could try bogging into the lower rpms and then gas it and stay moving. Like 2nd at a rolling pace then pop clutch and talk back