Hard to say from a TH-cam video what they really look like. The G4 is obviously on a warmer setting and has the contrast cranked up. This gives it more impact in most of the scenes, but the Bravia 9 looks far more natural and digs up a lot more detail in dark areas. That victory should go to the OLED in theory, while the Mini LED will produce brighter highlights in bright scenes, which is hard to translate over a recording.
Pick Bravia 9 if using TV in direct sunlight, afraid of burn-in, or ASBL dimming (high brightness sports). Otherwise don't let the marketing fool you, it's the best LCD LED ever made but the best OLED TVs will almost consistently deliver better picture quality! That said I'd probably take a Bravia 9 over the other models this year because my main use-case is SDR, mostly in a bright room but I still want an impactful HDR experience
@@henrywinters9496 Sony's colour is nearly always the best. Doesn't matter whether it's LCD/LED or OLED, no one else compares. Accurate, natural colours are a major part of picture quality and the only TV that even compares on that front with Sony's B9 would be Sony's recent high-end OLEDs from recent years.
No lcd is good in direct sunlight lol. Have you seen how VA panels spread reflections across the screen? B9 might be best of LCDs but still it’s worse what a95L or g4 does by far. That’s the irony brighter but can’t handle reflections well. Unless you watch sports - where there are none of the dark scenes present then you might not notice them.
@@whitecrowuk575 That's complete nonsense, my ancient-by-now Sony Z9F has no problem in sunlight. LCD's doing good in sunlight because of the extra brightness while OLEDs doing poor in sunlight is an extremely well known fact. And while modern top-end OLEDs can 'show' stuff better in direct sunlight now (but only the top-end ones with like 1500+ nits capability), it's still awful for OLEDs since the sunlight heats up the panel which kills the durability and makes the pixels burn out faster.
Yeah it’s pretty noticeable side by side even on camera doesn’t matter what camera either it’s just easy to spot the difference. On its own though I swear I can forget the Bravia 9 is not an OLED at times and that’s a really good sign for an LCD TV.
P.S. I forgot to ask you - just a suggestion, not sure if it’s possible - is there any way you can upload an HDR version of this comparison? Can your camera capture in LOG format and then you do a quick color grade and output at HDR? I ask because I’ve noticed a few TH-camrs starting doing this, and when watching on an HDR monitor like on a MacBook Pro it might be helpful for viewers to really see the brightness differences. What do you think KG?
Videos are not an accurate represenation of what you actually see in-person. Videos capture things that are not seen by the human eye when it's right in front of you... but it also fails to capture many things that can be seen when it's right there in front of you.
The whites on the G4 look very green-ish on a reference & calibrated monitor, as opposed to pure whites on the B9. I'm the only one preferring the life-like color rendition of the B9 versus the overly-saturated picture of the G4?
That's incorrect. The B9 over whiten's too many pixels. It's not even close to accurate. LG retains the white in just enough pixels that need it. The colour is fully restored in the areas that need it. Stupid LED TVs making everything look too white...
I find OLEDs often look that way to me, excessively saturated and overly contrasty, crushing blacks. But this may be the mode they are in when I see them. I even noticed it on the Nintendo Switch OLED model. I did not like the look. I didn't like my OLED phone screen either at first, although it looks better to me than OLED TVs. Large bright areas just don't brighten up, and the saturation does not look natural on OLED TVs. If it's supposed to look lke that, then the people mastering the video are not looking at the real world. OLED is awesome for highly saturated colorful graphics with small pinpoint bright spots on black backgrounds. Fireworks at night? OLED awesome! But that's not what I mostly look at. For photos or videos of the real world, Ithink it looks garrish. That said, I've seen OLED look remarkably good in filmmaker mode, other than being kind of dim. Saturation looked correct to me for the first time on an OLED TV. I had to twist the guys arm at the store to get him to put the TVs into filmmaker mode for me, and then he quickly switched back. Was this demo all in filmmaker mode? People say the contrast is lacking on the Mini LED, but I am looking at a mini LED right now, and when I look around my room, there's nothing that looks as contrasty as the TV screen. There's not a dark shadow anywher in the room that seems as dep black as the blacker parts of my screen.
Careful, the s95b loses brightness over time. Even from daylight in the room. They burn in really easy to. The one at Best Buy had to replaced 3 times in a year.
I saw your posts about the Bravia 9 blooming so I decided to get a 65 A80L. I upgraded from a X950G and the main reason was I can’t stand blooming. Loving the contrast of Oled thank you so much for helping me make the decision.
I’m really impressed by this Bravia 9… it’s crazy that people prefer the LG in the comments. They must be biased or only focusing on black levels. The Sony looks much better.
@@mastrorj68 Good for you. The G4 is also a year newer. The A95L will get a software overhaul in 2024 to cath up with the newer releases of other manufacturers.
@@TheEchelon I don't know if this is an overall thing but it's at least a manufacturing issue. All my Sony TVs have perished lol within 2 to 3 years sometimes less than and sometimes I've had multiple of the same. In my Facebook groups I see people saying the same thing about LG and Samsung. These companies really need to ask themselves are we just pumping things out too quickly and going for mass production over quality? Quality control, I should say. I would love a TV to last me 5 to 6 years that you pay more than $1,000 for. My brother still gloats about my 1080p Samsung plasma that I gave him after I moved and how it still turns on. Granted you and I both know there's no way it looks anything as good as even a cheap 4K TV but he swears he still loves that TV lol
@@TheEchelon I should also note that I'm not really bragging about owning so many it's the fact that I've had to have so many switched out through warranty. So I had the A95L and the board was shorting out and it was less than 60 days, it's like wow how are we here with this TV this soon and it's already going out on me and I'm just like I can't do Sony anymore I just can't.
I'm amazed by how passionate people are on youtube about the type of TV they prefer. They'll absolutely attempt to cut down anybody with an alternate opinion. 77" G4 approximately same price as 85" B9...tough decision.
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the screen size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the screen size?
I got my 75 inch Bravia 9 delivered yesterday. Spent several hours watching it and all types of content. Granted, I am upgrading from a 13-year-old 55 inch Samsung, but the B9 is absolutely incredible and I am completely blown away by its image, quality brightness, and the way it handles blacks. trust me you will love it
@@KonaLife thanks Kona! I am so looking forward to it I have never had a TV this powerful ever in my life well at the price, my first TV ever was a Westinghouse roku 4k TV that I bought for 300$ and immediately had burn ins so this is a dramatic step up from whatever that was lol
Bravia 9 looked better in many scenes, more shadow details, sharper. Run this test in a brighter living room where most people watch tv and watch HDR content which is what this TV was made for.
Run it it in a brighter room and enjoy vertical reflections across the screen. Lol. Va panel reflections are worse than on an oled panel so to me this argument is amiss.
@@whitecrowuk575 Worse than an VA panel, good one. Oled are not good bright room, living room TV period. Not bright enough not even the G4, picture quality takes a hit they look too dim, not enough brightness, contrast don't look as good and blacks looks grey. QD-oled are even worst.
The thumbnail is a show that comes out at 9pm est. The suggestion is that people paying this amount of money for a TV are using the screen for more than daytime soap operas, and have the ability to control lighting.
@@jimdshea I replaced my S95C for a X95L, better overall picture, more shadow details, better color acuracy, better processing and in broad daylight even the blacks are inkier.
Leds will die too.. Oleds have change of burn in, which is less nowadays but still a change Leds also fail in a few years of use. Insonsistent brightness, off colors. Rtings did all kinds of longetivity tests on oleds and leds.
@@MadViking824500h LG G2, Dead pixel in bottom left, outside the area of the content. U Can only see it when U don't have source. Warranty 5y ( 2y AT 100% + 3y for the panel only) I'm in the 2nd y . Yeah i'm geek and saw all of Netflix content 😂 New panel coming for free in 7day 🤗
Oled have pixel obitor burn is not an issue pixels aren’t stagnant I wish people would stop thinking this is a concern like it’s a hot ass plasma screen lol takes a year at least for burn in to happen
@@yearlytwomonthly6113 oh really a whole year so my $2000 and up tv will probably be no good in a year that doesn’t sound like money well spent besides just my opinion but I think oled is dead in the next few years anyway qd old is just better
Honestly, I'd like to see the G4 properly calibrated. It's an amazing panel, but I know what a reference monitor looks like and the G4 is clearly oversaturating colors and crushing blacks in this comparision, which leads to people here thinking It's Oled's better contrast. Also, these Woleds have a weird blue-ish tint.
LG G4 is going to outclass EVERY TV in any category in 2024 lineups. The Sony 24’ OLED is going to be maybe as good but the price points between the 2 will be enough that the LG still should be the choice.
I've had mostly OLEDs since the early days when I moved on from Panasonic plasmas, mostly LGs with the exception of a Vizio OLED on a killer sale, which still used an LG panel. I haven't really figured out the Sony Bravia paradigm. It seems like each one is using a different technology, but people seem to love them regardless. I've never strongly considered one because they always seemed to be significantly more expensive than their competitors in a given tier of TVs but weren't significantly outperforming their less expensive competitors.
The only thing I hate about the OLED tvs is that you loose detail in dark parts of the picture. For example, look at the beginning of the video at the flowers; there is a dark gap among the flowers at the right side of the screen. You will see details in the mini led and just black on the oled.
But it's way worse on the opposite scale. The millions of LED's can't be controlled properly resulting in bleed over to other pixels. Too many areas are over brightened. It's clear to see. Because of this you are seeing too much white in a lot of pixels, now you lose contrast, image definition and colour accuracy all becomes washed out and over exaggerated. OLED controls every one of its millions of pixels at the pixel level turning them on and off. The detail and accuracy and all the colour information is where it should be because it's controlled properly.
That’s the exact reason that I’m having trouble choosing between the two. I don’t mind having good contrast between the light and dark on the screen but I don’t want the blacks to crush all the detail either. Both the Bravia 9 and LG G4 looked good in different scenarios that he showed.
Just in the first 2 mins the Bravia is the better TV imo. Color accuracy to what the actual eyes would see goes to Bravia, blacks still are being crush on lg oled I see, lost of detail because of crush blacks. Especially if you go to the elephant scene. Then also white details in clouds. You look at the blender scene the chocolate, glass, and milk are accurate on the 9 as opposed to the G4. G4 had that weird green hue. This whole video the color inaccuracy of the G4 starts to get distracting next to accurate colors. I don't if these settings been tweaked or not but the Bravia 9 just seems like the clear winner tbh.
I bought the 77” G4 in mid August & can confirm, the tint isnt like that in person. The LG Dolby Vision is FANTASTIC! I got my professionally calibrated after a few weeks as well, and it looks just as good, if not better than the Sony, with and without the calibration.
There's zero reason to worry about burn in at all provided you don't do these things: * play MMOs or competitive multiplayer games where you're playing the same game, worse if you do it in HDR, for hundreds to thousands of hours * leave the tv on news channels all day every day * use your tv as a computer monitor. Even then, you can get away with doing the three of those way more than you can with older OLEDs. My LG B6 from 2017 will show temporary image persistence 10-20 seconds after leaving a window open on Windows desktop (OLED Light setting at 35 which is not that bright for that display). My LG C9 from 2019 with the same settings doesn't show that temporary image persistence at all. I imagine newer OLEDs are even more vastly improved at dealing with those static elements. I still wouldn't risk buying OLED if my primary use case involves any of those three cause I want to keep my tvs for greater than 15 years but it's all up to you. If you want the ultimate home theater tv for mostly movies and tv shows and if you primarily watch in a dark room, a flagship OLED is what you want. No question whatsoever.
you cant tell by watching a video on youtube... its like viewing a video of a high end speaker and using 10€ headphones to listen to it saying it sounds good...
@1:20 About the contrast, you're talking about the stones with the darkness/dirt in them. Can the B9 not achieve that look? I know you mentioned there's no advanced contrast enhancer on the B9 which would help OLED-idify the B9? Can it not achieve it through other means? In TKK's video of the A95L and B9, the A95L he switched to Professional and the B9 gained a lot of that contrast. Is there no way to gain the contrast without switching to Professional?
There’s advanced contrast just not in game mode same with Sony OLED TVs. That’s not giving it that look, that’s just the self lit pixels creating that look. If OLED is off you will perceive Bravia 9 to have contrast just not on the same level. When side by side the difference is noticeable.
@@TechWithKG Yeah, I just watched the Reflections and Scene of Kyoto from Sony pausing 600 times. No wonder I can't get rid of that LED. 😂 I think the B9 should be the A95L's equal in contrast in daylight especially in SDR. After all, you'd expect that from a true flagship Sony that's 10 years newer and has a new backlight panel and better panel technology. Someone should compare the A95L in HDR vs the B9 in SDR just for kicks - that would be a fun comparison actually.
Maybe I missed it but what picture settings was this comparison done because the G4 colors appeared warmer. Both tremendous TVs but I'm sure I can adjust the picture settings to make the Bravia 9's colors warmer.
Looks like there's a green tint on the G4 all the time? The sky in many scenes doesn't look blue. It looks almost dirty. Is this right or what's going on?
Someone might decapitate me for saying that I prefer the Bravia 9 85" over the G4 83". I had them both for a month and went back and forth. Only when they're side-by-side and you're nitpicking can you think for a second that the Bravia 9 can't keep up, when in fact it really depends on you environment and content/purpose.
Guys im in the same exact boat here trying to decide between these two and kinda/sorta thinking the B9 just has that extra special something in person at the store (especially when viewing a movie scene) -- do you think the B9 85" would do fine in a basement setting or will it get so bright I have to turn it down?
@@mrjojo2836 For HDR there's two important options to go between: Tone Mapping "Brightness Preferred" or "Gradation Preferred". Those are going to make the biggest overall difference in how bright the picture is. I have a dark room and choose "Gradation Preferred" or sometimes even turn off the tonemapping. You're going to love the Bravia 9!
G4 is really amazing never liked oled before but this one oh boy YET it looks like it has light green-ish filter on everything you turned on all this vid it bothered me a bit, it’s bravia 9 for me 65 inch
@@Anglo-Brit it crossed my mind kept seeing others nd i did saw differences but at least i gathered information then go see it somewhere with my own eyes face to face
The muted brightness of an oled doesn't win me over. LED tv's are that good now you wouldn't know the difference, I've had that 'just like being there' effect far more times with an led. If you watch a side by side comparison of a snowy mountain scene there is no contest, I feel like I'm actually there with an led because the whites are pure white.
In some scenes I think the Bravia 9 actually won. But in Darker scenes with specular highlights added and. Just the overall OLED experience is just going to be better. It's kind of like once you own a Porsche you just can't go back.
i think I made a great choice with the 77 inch G4, I just don't see myself going back to LED in it's current form. for me the pictures looked better on the LG with some exceptions.
amazing how the bravia 9 wins in upscaling still in spite of the oled tech. says a lot and processing and upscaling is key. overall daily viewing, sports and streaming in the living room pick the bravia 9. Gaming and care about just blacks the most pick the G4
I was as well but I decided that the 3d clarity, superior viewing angles and OLED contrast put the G4 over the Bravia 9 for my use case. I'm in a light-controlled room so the Bravia 9 brightness is not a factor and I have a 7.1 surround system, so I won't be using the TV speakers. The best thing to do is see what features stand out to you between the two. Also, I would wait until Black Friday to get the best price on either TV.
For a couple hours every day Amazon has the 77” G3 for 2700 new. It’s hard to even tell them apart. Save the money and in a few years when lg comes out with the fix for the blue pixel you can buy that model.
Which one would be better for the living room watching sports? I was leaning towards the B9 85 inch, but really like the G4. I’m concern about the G4 being to glossy in a brighter room.
You need to play with the settings on the Bravia 9 and the G4 is crushing the blacks and it's colors are over saturated. I've seen several professional reviews comparing these two TVs and there is not a huge difference.
9:28 OLEDs are blindingly DARK and probably QD-OLEDS might have solved issues of blinding darkness. LG seems awfully dark and not dot show proper black color
KG thank you so much for making this video! On all scenes containing the color white in this video, the G4's white has a slightly yellow/red tint while the B9 looks pure white. Is this something with the camera or is it also perceptible in person?
Thanks for your review KG. I do not understand people on AVS forum who criticized your review of Bravia 9. the difference in contrast, especially in game mode is very evident even on youtube.
I get it people get upset if you criticize anything they like, the thing is I like the Bravia 9 too lol I’m just not gonna blindly say it has no flaws hopefully people can see with the torches on the game portion of this video what I mean by “it’s an lcd problem” not exclusive to the Bravia 9. The torches will look like that when moving near them up close too, this kind of thing is noticeable in a lot of dark games with little lighting elements.
@@winwincsk The G4 is a great tv but that black crush is really noticeable. I’m surprised none of the reviewer’s have made any criticisms about it. Lg has always had this problem with their TVs.
Why would I buy any TV that will have blooming? And for the price you're paying. If you want to brighten TV, there's so many more options on the market. Don't waste your money. The black light System is okay, it's not revolutionary.
Given the Bravia 9 at 75" costs £4K, an extra £200 over the LG G3 75" (G4 not yet available in the UK), I'd rather have the G3 OLED all day long. I'm not saying the Bravia 9 is a bad TV, but it's massively overpriced. The 77" Sony A80L OLED is £2900.
In this comparison the G4 killed it , I have seen the bravia 9 in person at the high end tv store I got brought a flash drive with movies I have and I wasn't that impressed I hate any kind of blooming and witll take infinite contrast over brightness, I am not a lg fan either seen the G4 in person and that 3 dimension image its hard to beat , until I get my My Panasonic z95A . So great job Kg , oled isn't for everybody and mini led isn't for everybody.
I think it depends on if you are looking for true colour representation then the Sony seems to reproduce what the original source looked like. The G4 seems to have a yellowish tint to the colour in the early clips. I’m still torn but one of these will be in the living room later this year!
I am older with some vision loss. I prefer a brighter screen but need a really good side viewing in a large room. There is usually some amount of light in the room. No gaming, just movies, tv shows and sports. Which tv at around 85” would make me the happiest?
G4 well calibrated. IMHO. Still the best off angle viewing and contrast is with OLED. My caveat would be that if you mainly watch news channels with static images or bars for long periods of time you could risk image retention down the road and it might be worth giving up some off angle performance and contrast for what could be more longevity. We probably won’t know the actual longevity of QLED for some time. Not an expert.
I guessed correctly in two seconds. Provided you have sufficient brightness, nothing can ever be more precise than control over every single pixel. Sony did not learn the lessons of the Z9D and will learn it again the hard way. Too bad, since Sony optimized OLED is the best thing in the market. They’re letting LG surge ahead.
Thx KG~ I wonder if the B9 got any noticeable screen flicker / slow response time / ghosting while playing console game. Is it better to get a OLED TV for console gaming if I concerned the above issue?
Of note, some of us already have the 75" Bravia 9, and it appears to be a significantly better panel. Zero DSE, very minimal blooming, etc. We will know more as more owners get the 75" and 85" sizes into their hands.
How about gray slides like 5% etc, or using a game like sea of thieves and panning through the sky? If you’re enjoying the TV and you don’t see it in real content please dont check it though definitely wouldn’t recommend it if you’re liking a TV unless something creeps up in real content.
Guys, what you are being enthusiast about on the G4 on the videos is mainly its vivid contrast compared to the less saturated image on the B9. Only a few people though pointed out that those LG colors are totally off: there is a permanent green-ish tint that brings out unnatural scenes. It's ok to have strong contrasts but keeping consistency with the original source and intent of the videomaker is even more important to me (think of what we see at the cinema, no OLED there but still great experience). I believe that a properly calibrated B9 will reduce the gap even more and win easily, at least against the LG panel.
The g4 game mode smooth gradation and peak brightness SDR game mode are those bugs or if not maybe something LG could change in a future firmware? I am curious to what LGs stance on those settings behaving like that are
KG, please do a stream with a more in-depth comparison like you did with the B9 vs B4, where we can play around with the settings while we compare the two. I can guarantee you tons of ppl would be interested in seeing that. This video was really good, but there are still so many areas to visit such as motion content, SDR gaming while using picture processing, etc
Strong case for the Bravia 9, but the downfalls in game mode limit its potential, based on my preferences anyway. Each have their pros and cons, that's for sure.
I had an LG G2 a couple years ago, amazing picture. I actually like the darker, warmer tones. It's only an issue if your TV is facing a window, but even then my window was directly next to my TV and I never had any issues seeing the screen. I think that concern is largely overblown.
You like watching too many pixels lit up in white everywhere be my guest. That's not an accurate picture. You brightness people can't be told. Your losing colour and information in the picture because too much white is bleeding into areas it shouldn't.
Thank you. Its not a 4,000 nit TV I have seen most peak brightness measurements be closer to 2,700 nits for HDR peak. Also its brightness is only ever present when content is demanding it. Not much content really has scenes pushing a ton of brightness.
@@tshaolin971 it still uses a 5yr old outdated Mediatek chip with a new one coming in 2025 for Sony TV's.. If you're a gamer I think it would be better to wait or get an Oled for movie watching yeah? Edit: just saw the price on the Sony Bravia 9 and it's way overpriced especially for an LCD mat as well go an A95L from last year
@@mrwalker6026 I see, I currently have both an oled and mini Led Samsung, and after comparisons on different sources at the end of the day the best overall tech is mini Led. So yeah the Qn90D is way to go you won't be disappointed, I advised the Qn90C to a friend now he is watching all seasons of Game of Thrones in 4K HDR again.
I've been debating between the B9 and G4 for a bit, not sure if Sony's processing is worth not going the OLED route for the difference in picture quality. Curious your take on it.
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Hard to say from a TH-cam video what they really look like. The G4 is obviously on a warmer setting and has the contrast cranked up. This gives it more impact in most of the scenes, but the Bravia 9 looks far more natural and digs up a lot more detail in dark areas. That victory should go to the OLED in theory, while the Mini LED will produce brighter highlights in bright scenes, which is hard to translate over a recording.
Pick Bravia 9 if using TV in direct sunlight, afraid of burn-in, or ASBL dimming (high brightness sports). Otherwise don't let the marketing fool you, it's the best LCD LED ever made but the best OLED TVs will almost consistently deliver better picture quality!
That said I'd probably take a Bravia 9 over the other models this year because my main use-case is SDR, mostly in a bright room but I still want an impactful HDR experience
wrong! G4's colour is terrible, and can not reproduce sunny day lights, contrast alone is not enough!
@@mikej7648 the colour isn't perfect, but terrible is too harsh. I could understand picking a QD OLED over it if you're a hardcore colour enthusiast
@@henrywinters9496 Sony's colour is nearly always the best. Doesn't matter whether it's LCD/LED or OLED, no one else compares. Accurate, natural colours are a major part of picture quality and the only TV that even compares on that front with Sony's B9 would be Sony's recent high-end OLEDs from recent years.
No lcd is good in direct sunlight lol. Have you seen how VA panels spread reflections across the screen? B9 might be best of LCDs but still it’s worse what a95L or g4 does by far. That’s the irony brighter but can’t handle reflections well.
Unless you watch sports - where there are none of the dark scenes present then you might not notice them.
@@whitecrowuk575 That's complete nonsense, my ancient-by-now Sony Z9F has no problem in sunlight. LCD's doing good in sunlight because of the extra brightness while OLEDs doing poor in sunlight is an extremely well known fact. And while modern top-end OLEDs can 'show' stuff better in direct sunlight now (but only the top-end ones with like 1500+ nits capability), it's still awful for OLEDs since the sunlight heats up the panel which kills the durability and makes the pixels burn out faster.
From the first 30 seconds I knew the Bravia 9 was on the left. You can tell the contrast differences immediately on the OLED. :)
Yeah it’s pretty noticeable side by side even on camera doesn’t matter what camera either it’s just easy to spot the difference. On its own though I swear I can forget the Bravia 9 is not an OLED at times and that’s a really good sign for an LCD TV.
@@TechWithKG You are 100% correct!
P.S. I forgot to ask you - just a suggestion, not sure if it’s possible - is there any way you can upload an HDR version of this comparison? Can your camera capture in LOG format and then you do a quick color grade and output at HDR? I ask because I’ve noticed a few TH-camrs starting doing this, and when watching on an HDR monitor like on a MacBook Pro it might be helpful for viewers to really see the brightness differences. What do you think KG?
Videos are not an accurate represenation of what you actually see in-person. Videos capture things that are not seen by the human eye when it's right in front of you... but it also fails to capture many things that can be seen when it's right there in front of you.
Eventually this is the plan with my camera, but I want to do it properly so I’m gonna get a new monitor for grading first before I go this route.
I appreciate these short videos every now and then.
The whites on the G4 look very green-ish on a reference & calibrated monitor, as opposed to pure whites on the B9. I'm the only one preferring the life-like color rendition of the B9 versus the overly-saturated picture of the G4?
That's incorrect. The B9 over whiten's too many pixels. It's not even close to accurate. LG retains the white in just enough pixels that need it. The colour is fully restored in the areas that need it. Stupid LED TVs making everything look too white...
@@MaxPower-zp7wy No, the G4 picture is too saturated, the B9 looks more natural.
Btw it doesn’t look this exaggerated in real life honestly it only picks up on camera
In reality, white on lg OLED is white as snow + LG can be configured as Sony, Samsung or something neutral.... Lg OLED is the most versatile TV
I find OLEDs often look that way to me, excessively saturated and overly contrasty, crushing blacks. But this may be the mode they are in when I see them. I even noticed it on the Nintendo Switch OLED model. I did not like the look. I didn't like my OLED phone screen either at first, although it looks better to me than OLED TVs. Large bright areas just don't brighten up, and the saturation does not look natural on OLED TVs. If it's supposed to look lke that, then the people mastering the video are not looking at the real world. OLED is awesome for highly saturated colorful graphics with small pinpoint bright spots on black backgrounds. Fireworks at night? OLED awesome! But that's not what I mostly look at. For photos or videos of the real world, Ithink it looks garrish. That said, I've seen OLED look remarkably good in filmmaker mode, other than being kind of dim. Saturation looked correct to me for the first time on an OLED TV. I had to twist the guys arm at the store to get him to put the TVs into filmmaker mode for me, and then he quickly switched back. Was this demo all in filmmaker mode? People say the contrast is lacking on the Mini LED, but I am looking at a mini LED right now, and when I look around my room, there's nothing that looks as contrasty as the TV screen. There's not a dark shadow anywher in the room that seems as dep black as the blacker parts of my screen.
For me 85 inch bravia 9 in my bright living room and move my 65 inch s95b into the dark bedroom, best of both worlds. 😊
Careful, the s95b loses brightness over time. Even from daylight in the room. They burn in really easy to. The one at Best Buy had to replaced 3 times in a year.
I saw your posts about the Bravia 9 blooming so I decided to get a 65 A80L. I upgraded from a X950G and the main reason was I can’t stand blooming. Loving the contrast of Oled thank you so much for helping me make the decision.
I don't mind blooming but moved to OLED because it is very hard to get an LED witjout dirty screen effect
@@007GoldenLion It’s very noticeable in hockey my old one had a bit of DSE but I even notice better motion too. Sports look so smooth.
Sony has shown its difference again. TVs with the best image processor among Panasonic and Sony TVs
I’m really impressed by this Bravia 9… it’s crazy that people prefer the LG in the comments. They must be biased or only focusing on black levels. The Sony looks much better.
I've had 6 high-end don't TVs including a95L. I've had my G4 for 3 days and so far I'm choosing the G4.
@@mastrorj68 Good for you. The G4 is also a year newer. The A95L will get a software overhaul in 2024 to cath up with the newer releases of other manufacturers.
@@TheEchelon I don't know if this is an overall thing but it's at least a manufacturing issue. All my Sony TVs have perished lol within 2 to 3 years sometimes less than and sometimes I've had multiple of the same. In my Facebook groups I see people saying the same thing about LG and Samsung. These companies really need to ask themselves are we just pumping things out too quickly and going for mass production over quality? Quality control, I should say. I would love a TV to last me 5 to 6 years that you pay more than $1,000 for. My brother still gloats about my 1080p Samsung plasma that I gave him after I moved and how it still turns on. Granted you and I both know there's no way it looks anything as good as even a cheap 4K TV but he swears he still loves that TV lol
@@TheEchelon I should also note that I'm not really bragging about owning so many it's the fact that I've had to have so many switched out through warranty. So I had the A95L and the board was shorting out and it was less than 60 days, it's like wow how are we here with this TV this soon and it's already going out on me and I'm just like I can't do Sony anymore I just can't.
I'm amazed by how passionate people are on youtube about the type of TV they prefer. They'll absolutely attempt to cut down anybody with an alternate opinion. 77" G4 approximately same price as 85" B9...tough decision.
May I ask one question. Did you calibrate these two TVs or you used the settings from the manufactures? Thank you.
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the screen size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the screen size?
I'm still waiting on my Bravia 9 😕 I want it now... 😞
Gross.
@@vinnie97 calm down Nancy I'm still getting an OLED 🥴
I got my 75 inch Bravia 9 delivered yesterday. Spent several hours watching it and all types of content. Granted, I am upgrading from a 13-year-old 55 inch Samsung, but the B9 is absolutely incredible and I am completely blown away by its image, quality brightness, and the way it handles blacks. trust me you will love it
@@KonaLife thanks Kona! I am so looking forward to it I have never had a TV this powerful ever in my life well at the price, my first TV ever was a Westinghouse roku 4k TV that I bought for 300$ and immediately had burn ins so this is a dramatic step up from whatever that was lol
@@vinnie97are you looking at the mirror
The G in G4 must mean green tint, because it seems to be everywhere.
Green is the easiest color to create. You can calibrate the tv however you want though.
Bravia 9 looked better in many scenes, more shadow details, sharper. Run this test in a brighter living room where most people watch tv and watch HDR content which is what this TV was made for.
Run it it in a brighter room and enjoy vertical reflections across the screen. Lol. Va panel reflections are worse than on an oled panel so to me this argument is amiss.
@@whitecrowuk575 Worse than an VA panel, good one. Oled are not good bright room, living room TV period. Not bright enough not even the G4, picture quality takes a hit they look too dim, not enough brightness, contrast don't look as good and blacks looks grey. QD-oled are even worst.
The thumbnail is a show that comes out at 9pm est.
The suggestion is that people paying this amount of money for a TV are using the screen for more than daytime soap operas, and have the ability to control lighting.
@@jimdshea I replaced my S95C for a X95L, better overall picture, more shadow details, better color acuracy, better processing and in broad daylight even the blacks are inkier.
@@franky619ify do you mean the A95L?
The B9 looks really good without the worry of burn 🔥 in
Leds will die too..
Oleds have change of burn in, which is less nowadays but still a change
Leds also fail in a few years of use. Insonsistent brightness, off colors.
Rtings did all kinds of longetivity tests on oleds and leds.
@@MadViking82Don’t forget aggressive ABL of the OLEDs
@@MadViking824500h LG G2, Dead pixel in bottom left, outside the area of the content. U Can only see it when U don't have source.
Warranty 5y ( 2y AT 100% + 3y for the panel only)
I'm in the 2nd y . Yeah i'm geek and saw all of Netflix content 😂
New panel coming for free in 7day 🤗
Oled have pixel obitor burn is not an issue pixels aren’t stagnant I wish people would stop thinking this is a concern like it’s a hot ass plasma screen lol takes a year at least for burn in to happen
@@yearlytwomonthly6113 oh really a whole year so my $2000 and up tv will probably be no good in a year that doesn’t sound like money well spent besides just my opinion but I think oled is dead in the next few years anyway qd old is just better
Honestly, I'd like to see the G4 properly calibrated. It's an amazing panel, but I know what a reference monitor looks like and the G4 is clearly oversaturating colors and crushing blacks in this comparision, which leads to people here thinking It's Oled's better contrast. Also, these Woleds have a weird blue-ish tint.
LG G4 is going to outclass EVERY TV in any category in 2024 lineups. The Sony 24’ OLED is going to be maybe as good but the price points between the 2 will be enough that the LG still should be the choice.
What about the Sony A95L?
I've had mostly OLEDs since the early days when I moved on from Panasonic plasmas, mostly LGs with the exception of a Vizio OLED on a killer sale, which still used an LG panel. I haven't really figured out the Sony Bravia paradigm. It seems like each one is using a different technology, but people seem to love them regardless. I've never strongly considered one because they always seemed to be significantly more expensive than their competitors in a given tier of TVs but weren't significantly outperforming their less expensive competitors.
The only thing I hate about the OLED tvs is that you loose detail in dark parts of the picture. For example, look at the beginning of the video at the flowers; there is a dark gap among the flowers at the right side of the screen. You will see details in the mini led and just black on the oled.
I have both tech and this is not the only thing, a 100% window light scene is way dimmer on oled.
But it's way worse on the opposite scale. The millions of LED's can't be controlled properly resulting in bleed over to other pixels. Too many areas are over brightened. It's clear to see. Because of this you are seeing too much white in a lot of pixels, now you lose contrast, image definition and colour accuracy all becomes washed out and over exaggerated. OLED controls every one of its millions of pixels at the pixel level turning them on and off. The detail and accuracy and all the colour information is where it should be because it's controlled properly.
Oleds to the best transitioning from bright to dark. The detail in the dark scenes should be great on the g4 with the new processor.
That’s the exact reason that I’m having trouble choosing between the two. I don’t mind having good contrast between the light and dark on the screen but I don’t want the blacks to crush all the detail either. Both the Bravia 9 and LG G4 looked good in different scenarios that he showed.
Just in the first 2 mins the Bravia is the better TV imo. Color accuracy to what the actual eyes would see goes to Bravia, blacks still are being crush on lg oled I see, lost of detail because of crush blacks. Especially if you go to the elephant scene. Then also white details in clouds. You look at the blender scene the chocolate, glass, and milk are accurate on the 9 as opposed to the G4. G4 had that weird green hue. This whole video the color inaccuracy of the G4 starts to get distracting next to accurate colors. I don't if these settings been tweaked or not but the Bravia 9 just seems like the clear winner tbh.
The B9 image is more pleasant to my eyes in almost every comparison test.
The yellow tint the lg g4 has, can that be adjusted? Certain scenes the colors look so wrong
I bought the 77” G4 in mid August & can confirm, the tint isnt like that in person. The LG Dolby Vision is FANTASTIC! I got my professionally calibrated after a few weeks as well, and it looks just as good, if not better than the Sony, with and without the calibration.
@@vKingLouie bro bravia 9 vs g4 which one do u recommend?
The lg g4 has yellow tinting. This makes all colours look warmer and more saturated. I’d still take the Bravia 9
I love the G4, but never had an Oled and keep hearing about burn-in. Is it really that big of a problem? Does warranty cover it? Can I avoid it?
Oled burn in isn’t a big issue as it used to be, plus the G4 comes with a 5 year screen burn warranty
No burn in for me so far
There's zero reason to worry about burn in at all provided you don't do these things:
* play MMOs or competitive multiplayer games where you're playing the same game, worse if you do it in HDR, for hundreds to thousands of hours
* leave the tv on news channels all day every day
* use your tv as a computer monitor.
Even then, you can get away with doing the three of those way more than you can with older OLEDs. My LG B6 from 2017 will show temporary image persistence 10-20 seconds after leaving a window open on Windows desktop (OLED Light setting at 35 which is not that bright for that display). My LG C9 from 2019 with the same settings doesn't show that temporary image persistence at all. I imagine newer OLEDs are even more vastly improved at dealing with those static elements. I still wouldn't risk buying OLED if my primary use case involves any of those three cause I want to keep my tvs for greater than 15 years but it's all up to you.
If you want the ultimate home theater tv for mostly movies and tv shows and if you primarily watch in a dark room, a flagship OLED is what you want. No question whatsoever.
Comparisons like this make me chuckle.
They are like comparing hifi systems by listening on your phone.
I also wondered that. Especially when they were playing tv advertisements on other TVs.
hear the guy speaking
I remember at the advent of DVD they advertised it on VHS. 'DVD looks and sounds like this!'
When do you have a high-end LG phone, you can do that
@@stealthis
I think not.
Which one produces colors closer to the master monitor?
I don’t have a mastering monitor but I’m guessing neither get that close without calibration.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support! I answered your question in the other comment btw
Correct comparison between
sony bravia9 vs samsung qn95d
Huge difference in contrast and colorfulness. A bright OLED is just the best way to go for picture.
you cant tell by watching a video on youtube... its like viewing a video of a high end speaker and using 10€ headphones to listen to it saying it sounds good...
A QD-OLED yes.
The best way for cinema in dark room dude.
If you live in a cave yes. If you have windows and natural lighting, no.
@1:20 About the contrast, you're talking about the stones with the darkness/dirt in them. Can the B9 not achieve that look? I know you mentioned there's no advanced contrast enhancer on the B9 which would help OLED-idify the B9? Can it not achieve it through other means?
In TKK's video of the A95L and B9, the A95L he switched to Professional and the B9 gained a lot of that contrast. Is there no way to gain the contrast without switching to Professional?
There’s advanced contrast just not in game mode same with Sony OLED TVs. That’s not giving it that look, that’s just the self lit pixels creating that look. If OLED is off you will perceive Bravia 9 to have contrast just not on the same level. When side by side the difference is noticeable.
@@TechWithKG What's title of the geisha video? I'll do a side-by-side with my LED and OLED. Maybe I need an OLED Tv 🙂
@@TechWithKG Yeah, I just watched the Reflections and Scene of Kyoto from Sony pausing 600 times. No wonder I can't get rid of that LED. 😂
I think the B9 should be the A95L's equal in contrast in daylight especially in SDR. After all, you'd expect that from a true flagship Sony that's 10 years newer and has a new backlight panel and better panel technology.
Someone should compare the A95L in HDR vs the B9 in SDR just for kicks - that would be a fun comparison actually.
For the comparison, what picture modes and settings was each TV in?
Were these calibrated before comparison?
if i have the money, BRAVIA 9 for shore, looks so pure, the beautiful and natural colors.
Maybe I missed it but what picture settings was this comparison done because the G4 colors appeared warmer. Both tremendous TVs but I'm sure I can adjust the picture settings to make the Bravia 9's colors warmer.
Yes, the picture settings are clearly in favor of the G4!
Looks like there's a green tint on the G4 all the time? The sky in many scenes doesn't look blue. It looks almost dirty. Is this right or what's going on?
Someone might decapitate me for saying that I prefer the Bravia 9 85" over the G4 83". I had them both for a month and went back and forth. Only when they're side-by-side and you're nitpicking can you think for a second that the Bravia 9 can't keep up, when in fact it really depends on you environment and content/purpose.
I agree, I ended up putting a Sony Bravia B9 75-inch in my bedroom and love it. The brightness is insane. You need sunglasses 😂
Guys im in the same exact boat here trying to decide between these two and kinda/sorta thinking the B9 just has that extra special something in person at the store (especially when viewing a movie scene) -- do you think the B9 85" would do fine in a basement setting or will it get so bright I have to turn it down?
@@mrjojo2836 For HDR there's two important options to go between: Tone Mapping "Brightness Preferred" or "Gradation Preferred". Those are going to make the biggest overall difference in how bright the picture is. I have a dark room and choose "Gradation Preferred" or sometimes even turn off the tonemapping. You're going to love the Bravia 9!
Coming from a plasma which one in your opinion has best plasma like motion?
Sony no doubt.
In a bright room - mini led is amazing. However oled in a dark room is amazing. Both have their use cases.
G4 is really amazing never liked oled before but this one oh boy YET it looks like it has light green-ish filter on everything you turned on all this vid it bothered me a bit, it’s bravia 9 for me 65 inch
Only on this video
@@Anglo-Brit it crossed my mind kept seeing others nd i did saw differences but at least i gathered information then go see it somewhere with my own eyes face to face
@@SUPERMAN.1985 Yeah, we have been checking out the LG and it does not look that yellow at all. Its the best pitcher on the market from we have seen.
@JLT3ch I just bought the g4 and there is no green tint at all, on vivid mode maxed out and a few other modes, there is nothing that touches it.
Oleds have always been the best. Unless you’re using it outside in the summer.
The muted brightness of an oled doesn't win me over. LED tv's are that good now you wouldn't know the difference, I've had that 'just like being there' effect far more times with an led. If you watch a side by side comparison of a snowy mountain scene there is no contest, I feel like I'm actually there with an led because the whites are pure white.
Exactly I have both oled and mini Led and mini Led light reproduction is more impactful on a 100% snowy scene.
In some scenes I think the Bravia 9 actually won.
But in Darker scenes with specular highlights added and. Just the overall OLED experience is just going to be better. It's kind of like once you own a Porsche you just can't go back.
and in lighter scenes the Bravia 9 can look better. I can say 100% that I enjoy the picture colorful videogames games on Sony LCD's compared to OLED
What calibration setting(s) did you use for the two TVs?
i think I made a great choice with the 77 inch G4, I just don't see myself going back to LED in it's current form. for me the pictures looked better on the LG with some exceptions.
That's what you say to reassure you, the G4 is not future proof.
@@tshaolin971 and the Bravia 9 is? no one said the G4 was. no TV is future proof, ndw ones are released every year.
@@tshaolin971 I don’t think any technology could be future proof unless you enjoy holding yourself back from the best
amazing how the bravia 9 wins in upscaling still in spite of the oled tech. says a lot and processing and upscaling is key. overall daily viewing, sports and streaming in the living room pick the bravia 9. Gaming and care about just blacks the most pick the G4
Input lag?
I'm struggling with this exact decision. 75in B9 or 77in G4.........
I know I don't want the S95D or the A95L.
Anyone else in this situation?
I was as well but I decided that the 3d clarity, superior viewing angles and OLED contrast put the G4 over the Bravia 9 for my use case. I'm in a light-controlled room so the Bravia 9 brightness is not a factor and I have a 7.1 surround system, so I won't be using the TV speakers. The best thing to do is see what features stand out to you between the two. Also, I would wait until Black Friday to get the best price on either TV.
For a couple hours every day Amazon has the 77” G3 for 2700 new. It’s hard to even tell them apart. Save the money and in a few years when lg comes out with the fix for the blue pixel you can buy that model.
I’ve never needed a reference monitor so bad in my life!
Yes because x95l last year was pretty accurate with reference monitor
I want a 85” reference monitor for my living room.
I’ve see no trails or backlight flux on my 75. Wish you could’ve tested bigger sizes
Debating on grabbing the 85-inch and the new sound bar. Coming from OLED LG"s. I'm done with burn in have replaced 2 panels. 👎
Why does the g4 look like it has a yellow or green tint in a lot of the comparisons? Was reminded of the matrix
Warm mode by default - it needed calibration
G4 definitely stood out right away and was clearly better to my eyes. Honestly it wasn't even that close.
So is the bravia 9 under saturated or is the G4 over saturated?
Neither it’s just a different white balance for both TVs giving them their look more so.
The Bravia 9 has been specifically engineered to approach the fidelity of the brand new professional 4k nits monitor, so I think you get your answer.
Which one would be better for the living room watching sports? I was leaning towards the B9 85 inch, but really like the G4. I’m concern about the G4 being to glossy in a brighter room.
I prefer LEDs, thank you for showing this I will be purchasing the Bravia.
Lmao 😂
@@demonreturns4336 Enjoy Burn ins ;)
You mean LCDs.
Nah, the Sony Trinitron still reigns supreme.
@@darkmanureHe means Mini LED, lcd is like what you get at Walmart.
Would the X93L do much better?
You need to play with the settings on the Bravia 9 and the G4 is crushing the blacks and it's colors are over saturated. I've seen several professional reviews comparing these two TVs and there is not a huge difference.
9:28 OLEDs are blindingly DARK and probably QD-OLEDS might have solved issues of blinding darkness. LG seems awfully dark and not dot show proper black color
Still shooting for a LG G4
What about near black detail and black crushing?
LG G4 is great with shadow detail, but you might like the Bravia 9 better there but it does probably show too much
KG thank you so much for making this video! On all scenes containing the color white in this video, the G4's white has a slightly yellow/red tint while the B9 looks pure white. Is this something with the camera or is it also perceptible in person?
It’s more camera
for the most part Bravia 9 looks washed out in comparison to G4 specially from start to 3:50
It's not that the Bravia 9 is faded, it's that the image is more accurate and the LG G4 is more saturated
@@MariaJose-nv3tj 😂, I thought saturation was Samsung's game, looks like LG is also infected with it.
Thanks for your review KG. I do not understand people on AVS forum who criticized your review of Bravia 9. the difference in contrast, especially in game mode is very evident even on youtube.
They're angry that he has high standards.
I get it people get upset if you criticize anything they like, the thing is I like the Bravia 9 too lol I’m just not gonna blindly say it has no flaws hopefully people can see with the torches on the game portion of this video what I mean by “it’s an lcd problem” not exclusive to the Bravia 9. The torches will look like that when moving near them up close too, this kind of thing is noticeable in a lot of dark games with little lighting elements.
If u take the G4 out of game mode u lose some input lag but can get the vibranr pq that is close to the B9
Kg which one would you pick if you had to choose one over the other?
So helpful side by side video. Just the contrast alone makes any oled triumph over mini-leds
0:41 where the door is on the top right is that black crush on the G4 the Bravia 9 shows more detail the G4 just cancels it.
Agree with you. The Bravia 9 shows more shadow details than the G4.
Most of the "better contrast" people are talking about here is black crushing
@@winwincsk The G4 is a great tv but that black crush is really noticeable. I’m surprised none of the reviewer’s have made any criticisms about it. Lg has always had this problem with their TVs.
@@ThePipojp It does have better contrast because it’s OLed but there is noticible black crush on G4.
Why would I buy any TV that will have blooming? And for the price you're paying. If you want to brighten TV, there's so many more options on the market. Don't waste your money. The black light System is okay, it's not revolutionary.
It’s a trade off and the blooming isn’t really a common occurrence for this TV
Given the Bravia 9 at 75" costs £4K, an extra £200 over the LG G3 75" (G4 not yet available in the UK), I'd rather have the G3 OLED all day long. I'm not saying the Bravia 9 is a bad TV, but it's massively overpriced. The 77" Sony A80L OLED is £2900.
You receive £500 from Sony after purchase 🙏🏽 so its 500 cheaper than the G4 I'm sure the RRP IS 4K for both
Anyone know if SB9 is on display at Best Buys?
A first class analysis KG.....
Looking forward to this!
The image just feels more 3d-ish on oled, it's amazing
In this comparison the G4 killed it , I have seen the bravia 9 in person at the high end tv store I got brought a flash drive with movies I have and I wasn't that impressed I hate any kind of blooming and witll take infinite contrast over brightness, I am not a lg fan either seen the G4 in person and that 3 dimension image its hard to beat , until I get my My Panasonic z95A . So great job Kg , oled isn't for everybody and mini led isn't for everybody.
G4 still winner
Bravia 9 winner
🤡🤡🤡
I’m a Sony fan, but G4 takes it… OLED still king
A95L QD-OLED still winner
I think it depends on if you are looking for true colour representation then the Sony seems to reproduce what the original source looked like. The G4 seems to have a yellowish tint to the colour in the early clips. I’m still torn but one of these will be in the living room later this year!
what about smooth gradation is lg now better then Sony ?
NOOOOO
Excellent comparison, thank you. In the end, it's one tech vs the other and which one you prefer.
Yup two really great TVs I’d be happy with either if I could only have one TV in the house. There’s definitely trade offs with both.
LG fanboys Sony has the best picture processing in the business the only tv I would buy would either be the B9 or 95L
So you don't have a TV 🤔?
@@CreamPieSundays 🤪🙄
@@George-hl2xm You structured that sentence not me, so do you have a TV? You didn't answer the question 😶🌫️
@Tech With KG If you were to choose between Bravia 9, LG G4 or S95D, what would you personally end up choosing?
yes 😂
Bravia 9 is future proof.
I am older with some vision loss. I prefer a brighter screen but need a really good side viewing in a large room. There is usually some amount of light in the room. No gaming, just movies, tv shows and sports. Which tv at around 85” would make me the happiest?
Can’t go wrong with either B9 or g4
G4 well calibrated. IMHO. Still the best off angle viewing and contrast is with OLED. My caveat would be that if you mainly watch news channels with static images or bars for long periods of time you could risk image retention down the road and it might be worth giving up some off angle performance and contrast for what could be more longevity. We probably won’t know the actual longevity of QLED for some time. Not an expert.
I guessed correctly in two seconds. Provided you have sufficient brightness, nothing can ever be more precise than control over every single pixel. Sony did not learn the lessons of the Z9D and will learn it again the hard way. Too bad, since Sony optimized OLED is the best thing in the market. They’re letting LG surge ahead.
Bravia 9 all day 👍🏾
Thx KG~ I wonder if the B9 got any noticeable screen flicker / slow response time / ghosting while playing console game. Is it better to get a OLED TV for console gaming if I concerned the above issue?
It's an LCD,it's going to have huge motion blur and or ghosting.and Sony TV's are the worst when it comes to input lag.hope that helps
@@truthx7 IT WILL NOT HAVE NO MOTION ISSUES LMFAO SONYS PROCESSING IS THE BEST. THIS ISNT SOME CHEAP TCL VA PANEL WITH TRASH PROCESSING
@@truthx7No it has improved greatly, it's not a huge issue now.
What demo is 2:43 from? The blenders?
HDR Super Channel it’s called “Super slow 1000 fps”
@@TechWithKG why does the G4 look so yellowish in that scene, while Sonys looks clear & white?
@@TechWithKG if you were forced to choose between the B9 or the G4, which would you go with?
Of note, some of us already have the 75" Bravia 9, and it appears to be a significantly better panel. Zero DSE, very minimal blooming, etc. We will know more as more owners get the 75" and 85" sizes into their hands.
Zero DSE is wild that’s so rare for any LCD, are you checking it right? This 65” has very minimal blooming too. 85” should be AUO panels I think.
@@TechWithKG I did the hockey test last night, and it was pure white. If anyone else has a suggestion to check for DSE, I’m open to suggestions.
Yea Zero even with mine it’s wild
How about gray slides like 5% etc, or using a game like sea of thieves and panning through the sky? If you’re enjoying the TV and you don’t see it in real content please dont check it though definitely wouldn’t recommend it if you’re liking a TV unless something creeps up in real content.
@@TechWithKG Yea I need it to creep up before I hit it with the 5% but I haven’t seen it some blur a little ghosting but DSE nope
kg hows ur q90t vs b9 would be curious to see a tv comparison between those 2 a top led 2020 tv vs a top led 2024 tv
Bravia 9 looks uncalibrated? It looks very very cool toned compared to the g4. Are both uncalibrated?
What is the name of the demo in the beginning with the japan forest and woman with umbrella??
Guys, what you are being enthusiast about on the G4 on the videos is mainly its vivid contrast compared to the less saturated image on the B9. Only a few people though pointed out that those LG colors are totally off: there is a permanent green-ish tint that brings out unnatural scenes. It's ok to have strong contrasts but keeping consistency with the original source and intent of the videomaker is even more important to me (think of what we see at the cinema, no OLED there but still great experience).
I believe that a properly calibrated B9 will reduce the gap even more and win easily, at least against the LG panel.
Wenn du den B9 Kalibrieren würdest...dann Kalibrieren wir auch den G4 und gut ust mit dem Grünstrich. Junge, junge....
The g4 game mode smooth gradation and peak brightness SDR game mode are those bugs or if not maybe something LG could change in a future firmware? I am curious to what LGs stance on those settings behaving like that are
Not bugs it’s been that way for years unfortunately
W@@TechWithKGwhich is the best for you ???
KG, please do a stream with a more in-depth comparison like you did with the B9 vs B4, where we can play around with the settings while we compare the two. I can guarantee you tons of ppl would be interested in seeing that. This video was really good, but there are still so many areas to visit such as motion content, SDR gaming while using picture processing, etc
B4?
@@EverydayElectronics23 Yes, he a did a stream comparing the Bravia 9 with the LG B4
@TechWithKG Great video comparison. Random question, does the g4 or b9 do split screen or picture in picture?
G4 does it
@@rohitpillai1760 can it do two hdmi sources or one with an app like youtube?
Strong case for the Bravia 9, but the downfalls in game mode limit its potential, based on my preferences anyway. Each have their pros and cons, that's for sure.
Compared this video to other comparison video, this video’s difference is quite significant. Wait for Vincent’s video to see if it is that much.
Techwithkg I have a90j 83 do you think g4 is much better I don’t care if the g4 is brighter I only watch hdr top movies and 4k sports
The same here and I'm hesitating a lot with the B9 in 85"...
Lot of HDR content, sport..
I had an LG G2 a couple years ago, amazing picture. I actually like the darker, warmer tones. It's only an issue if your TV is facing a window, but even then my window was directly next to my TV and I never had any issues seeing the screen. I think that concern is largely overblown.
7:23 what game is this?
Great video KG. Surely the main one of the year. I perfered the whites on the B9. I also watch a lot of sdr and do sdr gaming so its the B9 here
You like watching too many pixels lit up in white everywhere be my guest. That's not an accurate picture. You brightness people can't be told. Your losing colour and information in the picture because too much white is bleeding into areas it shouldn't.
Not all about contrast bud. The brightness is important too@@MaxPower-zp7wy
Wow, that comparison is astonishing. What i find odd, though, isn't the bravia 9 a 4000 nitt tv? Why does the lg look almost just a bright as the Sony
Thank you. Its not a 4,000 nit TV I have seen most peak brightness measurements be closer to 2,700 nits for HDR peak. Also its brightness is only ever present when content is demanding it. Not much content really has scenes pushing a ton of brightness.
In terms of Mini-led which would be the better option and why comparing the Sony Bravia 9 vs Samsung QN90D Mini-led? 🤔
I have a QN90B mini Led which is superb but the Bravia 9 is the way to go it's a new leap in tech.
@@tshaolin971 it still uses a 5yr old outdated Mediatek chip with a new one coming in 2025 for Sony TV's..
If you're a gamer I think it would be better to wait or get an Oled for movie watching yeah?
Edit: just saw the price on the Sony Bravia 9 and it's way overpriced especially for an LCD mat as well go an A95L from last year
@@mrwalker6026 The chip is a good argument to wait but in oled case the dark scenes shadows details are leftover and bright full screen are dim.
@@tshaolin971 don't get me wrong the Sony Bravia 9 is good but where I am the Qn90D is significantly cheaper and the A95L QD-Oled is same price
@@mrwalker6026 I see, I currently have both an oled and mini Led Samsung, and after comparisons on different sources at the end of the day the best overall tech is mini Led.
So yeah the Qn90D is way to go you won't be disappointed, I advised the Qn90C to a friend now he is watching all seasons of Game of Thrones in 4K HDR again.
thank you. i think miniled better not even in this comparison because of details in dark
I've been debating between the B9 and G4 for a bit, not sure if Sony's processing is worth not going the OLED route for the difference in picture quality. Curious your take on it.
I lean heavily towards G4 unless you watch in vivid or standard modes and admire the Bravia 9s brightness.
G4 easy