A small correction because sometimes I'm a little dumb: Turgon was apparently killed when his tower collapsed on top of him, not slain by orcs. A misunderstanding on my part.
TheExploringSeries Its ok man everyone makes a simple mistake but I don't mind I love your Great Middle Earth vids (and your other ones too :) ) keep up you're awesome work! :)
Yujifanik And the the graphic details of the battle were inspired the Dead Marshes Frodo and Sam go through. Something tells me The Somme meant a lot to him in some way.
Caleb Chaney he lost 2 dear friends in that battle alone. one died and another mortally wounded. I believe so... not 100%. I think he lost 4 friends during the war 1st one when they were fighting together.
Melkor Bauglir Yep very true and correct and he was a candidate for The Fellowship Of The Ring but he turned down the opportunity to join them on the quest to destroy the Ring
Santeri Ruotsala it doesn't happen for everyone and it's still death first. the elves have a job and are bound to do it till it's done weather or not they cooperate with the main plan...
Santeri Ruotsala I don't think your getting the point about death here. it's a completely different life next time. most don't go back to middle earth but stay in Valinor. few who die even come back at all. their job it's finished though. it's not their time. they lose their lifestyle and all they had done and accomplished out of reach for them to enjoy again. gandalf and some unnamed elves were the only I can recall who even had this happen. it's cause they are a higher being. it may be implied that we all have everlasting souls and choices we made either good or evil affect our future even after death.
"The Fall of Gondolin" is one of my personal favorites. Well done. For those of you that want to read a more detailed account of this epic battle, I suggest "The Lost Tales" Book II and "Unfinished Tales". Well worth the read. The battles in the First Age make later battles in Middle Earth look like childs play.
Gondolin was located northwest of Doriath and a little southeast of Hithlim. In the center of a small ring of mountains. You have to look for a First Age map to find it. Like the map found in the Silmarillion. Before Middle Earth was transformed and reshaped by the "War of Wrath" between Morgoth and the Valar.
Tyler Sturm Yes. Both Elves and Men were much stronger and were highly skilled craftsmen during the First Age. Both diminished over the Ages due to Morgoths and later Saurons influence and power in Middle Earth. Elves like Elrond and Galadriel were born in the First Age. As an example of the power and might the Elves once held. There were Elven Kings and Champions that were even stronger. Among men, Aragorn is a descendent of the mighty Numenors that once walked Middle Earth. Some of which lived for a couple hundred years and even captured Sauron at one point. Vanity got the best of the Numenors finally and lead to their destruction.
I love this story. I read it after its solo book was published and it's up there with the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit for me, such a fantastic tale, Tolkien's writing is just incredible.
I love you Exploring series. FYI i don't follow any youtube channel but i just turned on notifications on yours. I do hope you keep doing lore movies for tolkien's world, elder scrolls and other mythical universes. KUDDOS!
I think you have the part about hurin wrong. He was captured by galrung, Lord of balrogs, while he acted as the rearguard to turgon to escape, after the defeat of battle of unnumbered tears. He was taken to thangorodrim and held in place by power of morgoth and cursed by him to watch his family suffer. This happened before unumbered tears but perhaps I ha e it wrong. This is my favorite tale, so sad, so valent!
Kreuzritter Gottes you’re right about most of that except for the fact that hurin getting captured didn’t occur before the battle of unnumbered tears but actually happened at the end of the battle. Hurin was likely the last person standing by the end of the battle
TheChosen2030 not true since members of fingolfins line were killed while fighting the dark lords directly, fingolfin himself died dueling morgoth and gilgalad was killed fighting sauron
@@TheChosen2030 Feanor was cruddy dishonorable dude man, and he dragged his sons and other kin into all of bullshit. Nothing badass about that, dude had no honor at all
Hi I’m a big fan of your explore series! I did have a small question regarding the authors of the lore your exploring specific H.P. lovecraft and Tolken. Is there any chance you would add videos that are a quick overview of the writers lives for those who don’t know very much about them? There background and history of story telling or even there intended interpretation of certain stories. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more.
Dang! That sounds like it would make for a great great series of movies. I think that would be better than the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. They should do that next. There has been a series referring to a great city of men. Lord of the Rings w/Gondor & Rohan. Then a series on a great city of Dwarves W/Erabor. Now they need a series centered around a great Elven city. I think the story of Gondolin would make a great series of movies.
ItBurns WhenIPEE well first idk why you deserve this good response but here it goes... they have made 7 movies over the years and it's a classic book series fantasy lore that has made over a billion dollars Garanteed if not much more for the millions of books sold and the 7 movies not to mention the recent 3 movies were quite good. it's one of the few fantasy book series that can keep up with lore and Harry potter. it's older sure so maybe not cool to the clueless dope youth of today but it is from one of the best liturature writers of modern times in cs Lewis write next to lotr and tolkien. they were actually very good friends and debated often on many things. so obviously they are much respected and loved. I grew up reading the books for both guys and watching the movies later. so pretty sure many find them worth their time. just not you and your cool factor and your 10 followers. pretty sure they will never do 7 books 7 movies and sell millions and earn over a billion from this lame series your so into... modern day fantasy lore is nothing without the influence tolkien and lore as well as cs Lewis and narnia lore impacted our world today with. hope this helps but I'm pretty sure I know the response from you if any at all... sad smh lol :/ ;)
faxanadu13 fall of gondolin has details also written in the history of middle earth series. Also some of these details can be found in silmarillion and children of hurin
The fall of Rome, the battle for Berlin, the burning of Moscow and the fall of Gondolin..3 are real and epic..the Fall of Gondolin is not real but I number it with the other 3 as it's as it is such a magnificent read. Massive in scope and as tragic to read about as the others..Ecthelion and his valiant stand against Gothmog in the the courtyard of the King...The ruin of the Kings tower and death of his house as they defended Turgon to the last. Glorfindel and his struggle against one of the Balrog..in his expanded works even Rog and his smiths who attacked in fury and caused carnage in Morgoth's armies even though every single one of them died...
Gondolin was first named Ondolinde(because there was fountains ontop of the hill) but in theCindarin tong it was changed to Gondolin(meaning hidden rock)
Sanderson is one of my favorite authors, and I believe I've read everything so far related to the Cosmere. I'd love to see a tv series on the level of Game of Thrones done for his works.
God what a horrible thought. Ruined the Lord of the Rings and shat all over the Hobbit -- now he's eyeing stories from Silmarillion? Somebody stop him!
As much as I love Jackson's trilogy as epic FILMS in their own right, bringing middle earth to life, he just didn't do complete justice to Tolkien's masterpiece. I feel that epic middle earth films should be adapted as faithful to Tolkien as possible, not adding unnecessary flashiness, special effects or hollywood touches or "adding" to Tolkien as if his work wasn't powerful, deeply imaginative and REALISTIC enough. I would love to adapt not only LOTR, but also The Fall of Gondolin, Beren And Luthien and The Children Of Hurin or any other tremendous Silmarillion tale into sprawling 2-D animated epic films with classical, high quality animation, attention to detail and the MEDIEVALISM of Tolkien's work and powerful drama.
It’s interesting that elf children seem to stop appearing in the world at some point. No references I am in LOTR. How old might one’s immortal parent be at the time of one’s birth?
Tellion Thank you for your direction. It looks like the essay is by Christopher Tolkien, reflecting his reading of draft material by his father. Is that your understanding? A massive LOTR fan, having read the books again and again beginning in the fourth grade (in a previous Age, I assure you) I was unaware of these sources.
I just finished The Silmarillion and I like it more than The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings. My favorite character is Earendil the Mariner - father of Elrond & Elros, and son of Tuor and Idril Celebrindal.
Well, yes, you are missing something in fact. Basically, Tolkien reused the same character name twice without really thinking about it. Later in life, he wrote a couple of essays explaining that they were in fact the same character in order to fix his mistake. Glorfindel was placed back in his body and sent back to Middle-Earth after his death.
There are so many thing this guy get wrong for no reason. Like see my last comment, or Eol was named a dark elf because he dwelt in nan elmoth and he went never out in the sun light and because he was Avari...
Saesee Tiin The Fall of Gondolin was explained and came from three books from the Legendarium The Sillmarillion, Unfinished Tales and The Book Of Lost Tales Part 2
Sry. Morgoth was unaware any escaped. That was key. The balrog was guarding the pass they took to flee, and glorfindel was already traveling with them. They all took the hidden tunnel idril constructed in secret.
Your videos are good, but your continual mispronunciation of names is extremely distracting and makes it difficult to listen to. Nothing undermines your grasp of the lore more than mispronouncing the names. Tolkien gave ample tools to decipher this. Please redo your narration and put EVERY name to test before you use it. Then your videos will be top notch.
A small correction because sometimes I'm a little dumb: Turgon was apparently killed when his tower collapsed on top of him, not slain by orcs. A misunderstanding on my part.
Honest mistake, your Middle-Earth videos are the absolute best! Thanks for all the effort
TheExploringSeries its okay buddie!
TheExploringSeries Its ok man everyone makes a simple mistake but I don't mind I love your Great Middle Earth vids (and your other ones too :) ) keep up you're awesome work! :)
hell yeah bro. back to middle earth.
Justin D they are the absolute best that he does. they are so good.
Tolkien wrote this event after he survived the Battle of The Somme.
Yujifanik And the the graphic details of the battle were inspired the Dead Marshes Frodo and Sam go through. Something tells me The Somme meant a lot to him in some way.
Caleb Chaney he lost 2 dear friends in that battle alone. one died and another mortally wounded. I believe so... not 100%. I think he lost 4 friends during the war 1st one when they were fighting together.
Tolkien repeatedly said this experience in WW1 and the events of WW2 didn't influence his writing.
The geopolitics of WW1 & WW2 did not influence him, but his personal experiences did (especially his fear/disgust for mechanized warfare) .
It certainly puts the underlying theme of an unwinnable battle into context.
Glorfindel was later sent back to Middle-Earth by the Valar. He was the one who made the prophecy of the Witch King
Melkor Bauglir Yep very true and correct and he was a candidate for The Fellowship Of The Ring but he turned down the opportunity to join them on the quest to destroy the Ring
I always found that so cheap and lazy way to resurrect people
Santeri Ruotsala it doesn't happen for everyone and it's still death first. the elves have a job and are bound to do it till it's done weather or not they cooperate with the main plan...
It's still a resurrection without consequences that the writer can theoretically use for every character he wants.
Santeri Ruotsala I don't think your getting the point about death here. it's a completely different life next time. most don't go back to middle earth but stay in Valinor. few who die even come back at all. their job it's finished though. it's not their time. they lose their lifestyle and all they had done and accomplished out of reach for them to enjoy again. gandalf and some unnamed elves were the only I can recall who even had this happen. it's cause they are a higher being. it may be implied that we all have everlasting souls and choices we made either good or evil affect our future even after death.
Gondolin is my favorite Elven realm. How different would the history of Middle-Earth had been if Beleriand hadn't broken up and sunk beneath the sea.
Thanks for the video, great work, especially middle-earth is why i'm here, keep them coming!!!
This was so good, absolutely love this channel!!! More Middle Earth lore is always better!!! Cheers
Treachery, fire, blood..... I love the intros
The book is finally ready :D The Fall of Gondolin
Give us more please. I just found your channel and I've watched 3 of your exploring series, and they are amazing. keep up the awesome content
NO WAY! IT'S BACK! LOTR LORE VIDEOS! YES SIR!
"The Fall of Gondolin" is one of my personal favorites. Well done. For those of you that want to read a more detailed account of this epic battle, I suggest "The Lost Tales" Book II and "Unfinished Tales". Well worth the read. The battles in the First Age make later battles in Middle Earth look like childs play.
PCL from where part of middle earth's Gondolin located?
Gondolin was located northwest of Doriath and a little southeast of Hithlim. In the center of a small ring of mountains. You have to look for a First Age map to find it. Like the map found in the Silmarillion. Before Middle Earth was transformed and reshaped by the "War of Wrath" between Morgoth and the Valar.
PCL were the elves and men more stronger and better in the first age
Tyler Sturm Yes. Both Elves and Men were much stronger and were highly skilled craftsmen during the First Age. Both diminished over the Ages due to Morgoths and later Saurons influence and power in Middle Earth. Elves like Elrond and Galadriel were born in the First Age. As an example of the power and might the Elves once held. There were Elven Kings and Champions that were even stronger. Among men, Aragorn is a descendent of the mighty Numenors that once walked Middle Earth. Some of which lived for a couple hundred years and even captured Sauron at one point. Vanity got the best of the Numenors finally and lead to their destruction.
PCL thank you I would like to see first age elves and men at there true strength
I love this story. I read it after its solo book was published and it's up there with the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit for me, such a fantastic tale, Tolkien's writing is just incredible.
Fascinating very enjoyable!
They really are bro.
Great video thank you.
Can't wait for you eventually dune vids
I love you Exploring series. FYI i don't follow any youtube channel but i just turned on notifications on yours. I do hope you keep doing lore movies for tolkien's world, elder scrolls and other mythical universes.
KUDDOS!
I think you have the part about hurin wrong. He was captured by galrung, Lord of balrogs, while he acted as the rearguard to turgon to escape, after the defeat of battle of unnumbered tears. He was taken to thangorodrim and held in place by power of morgoth and cursed by him to watch his family suffer. This happened before unumbered tears but perhaps I ha e it wrong. This is my favorite tale, so sad, so valent!
Kreuzritter Gottes you’re right about most of that except for the fact that hurin getting captured didn’t occur before the battle of unnumbered tears but actually happened at the end of the battle. Hurin was likely the last person standing by the end of the battle
Tolkein was a genus. He wrote such intricate stories that intertwine later down the road. Glorfindel was brought back in the third age correct?
nothing compares to first age men and elves they too badass. Finglofins line also way more badass than faenor's
Minato D Roger but feanor was the most badass elf ever
TheChosen2030 not true since members of fingolfins line were killed while fighting the dark lords directly, fingolfin himself died dueling morgoth and gilgalad was killed fighting sauron
Beren was more badass, he took one of the Silmaril. Despite he was human.
@@TheChosen2030 Feanor was cruddy dishonorable dude man, and he dragged his sons and other kin into all of bullshit. Nothing badass about that, dude had no honor at all
Make this a movie please
It was about time.. really nice job
I'd love a film about this
Thanks for doing these.
One of my favourite scenes in the book! Thanks for the video!
Great video and very proud of your success 77k subs!!! It seems like yesterday your were at 400;) keep up the amazing work!
Haha, thank you! It's been an incredible year.
Love your videos bro!
Hi I’m a big fan of your explore series! I did have a small question regarding the authors of the lore your exploring specific H.P. lovecraft and Tolken. Is there any chance you would add videos that are a quick overview of the writers lives for those who don’t know very much about them? There background and history of story telling or even there intended interpretation of certain stories. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more.
Thank you. I've definitely thought about it, so there's a good chance I'd say.
Dang! That sounds like it would make for a great great series of movies. I think that would be better than the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. They should do that next. There has been a series referring to a great city of men. Lord of the Rings w/Gondor & Rohan. Then a series on a great city of Dwarves W/Erabor. Now they need a series centered around a great Elven city. I think the story of Gondolin would make a great series of movies.
The problem is that the city fell. So you have to see the beauty fall.
Great video
Love this channel. Recommendation for next series: Warhammer 40k
ItBurns WhenIPEE boo... do Narnia instead
Who tf thinks Narnia is cooler than 40k? No one..
ItBurns WhenIPEE well first idk why you deserve this good response but here it goes... they have made 7 movies over the years and it's a classic book series fantasy lore that has made over a billion dollars Garanteed if not much more for the millions of books sold and the 7 movies not to mention the recent 3 movies were quite good. it's one of the few fantasy book series that can keep up with lore and Harry potter. it's older sure so maybe not cool to the clueless dope youth of today but it is from one of the best liturature writers of modern times in cs Lewis write next to lotr and tolkien. they were actually very good friends and debated often on many things. so obviously they are much respected and loved. I grew up reading the books for both guys and watching the movies later. so pretty sure many find them worth their time. just not you and your cool factor and your 10 followers. pretty sure they will never do 7 books 7 movies and sell millions and earn over a billion from this lame series your so into... modern day fantasy lore is nothing without the influence tolkien and lore as well as cs Lewis and narnia lore impacted our world today with. hope this helps but I'm pretty sure I know the response from you if any at all... sad smh lol :/ ;)
ItBurns WhenIPEE Warhammer lol I forgot what we were talking about.... lol haha
Well done!! You mention "legendarium" and I assumed this was from the Silmarillion
faxanadu13 fall of gondolin has details also written in the history of middle earth series. Also some of these details can be found in silmarillion and children of hurin
faxanadu13 "Legendarium" is a general term for Tolkien's world. Much of it was published, some in summary form, in The Silmarillion.
The fall of Rome, the battle for Berlin, the burning of Moscow and the fall of Gondolin..3 are real and epic..the Fall of Gondolin is not real but I number it with the other 3 as it's as it is such a magnificent read. Massive in scope and as tragic to read about as the others..Ecthelion and his valiant stand against Gothmog in the the courtyard of the King...The ruin of the Kings tower and death of his house as they defended Turgon to the last. Glorfindel and his struggle against one of the Balrog..in his expanded works even Rog and his smiths who attacked in fury and caused carnage in Morgoth's armies even though every single one of them died...
I enjoy your videos a lot and your knowledge of the lotr universe. Gets me really moist
Gondolin was first named Ondolinde(because there was fountains ontop of the hill) but in theCindarin tong it was changed to Gondolin(meaning hidden rock)
Hey TES, always glad to see more Silmarillion.
I have a question, have you heard of/read the Cosmere?
If so, what are your opinions on it?
Sanderson is one of my favorite authors, and I believe I've read everything so far related to the Cosmere. I'd love to see a tv series on the level of Game of Thrones done for his works.
It would be amazing, yeah.
A Stormlight series could work quite well, especially when you get to the end of Kaladin/Shallan's flashbacks.
Ecthelion was a true badass
Ikr, probably my favourite elf
Merglin was tortured by morgoth. He didn't just give up Gondolins location willingly.
From which artists is the art at the 37 second mark?
That would be Fan Ming.
You should add music credits too.
Excellent .. I wonder if Peter Jackson or someone else might just do the Siege of Gondolin movie?
Never
hope so
RemusKingOfRome5 Peter Jackson has no rights to this material. The film rights to The Hobbit & The Lord of the Rings were sold, but nothing else.
God what a horrible thought. Ruined the Lord of the Rings and shat all over the Hobbit -- now he's eyeing stories from Silmarillion? Somebody stop him!
As much as I love Jackson's trilogy as epic FILMS in their own right, bringing middle earth to life, he just didn't do complete justice to Tolkien's masterpiece. I feel that epic middle earth films should be adapted as faithful to Tolkien as possible, not adding unnecessary flashiness, special effects or hollywood touches or "adding" to Tolkien as if his work wasn't powerful, deeply imaginative and REALISTIC enough.
I would love to adapt not only LOTR, but also The Fall of Gondolin, Beren And Luthien and The Children Of Hurin or any other tremendous Silmarillion tale into sprawling 2-D animated epic films with classical, high quality animation, attention to detail and the MEDIEVALISM of Tolkien's work and powerful drama.
Gondolin wasn't in Valinor, it was on Beleriand.
Where was Gandalf during this?
He didn't exist yet.
He was still in Valinor
damn you make a great video
Excellent!
You should do dungeons and dragons lore next
It’s interesting that elf children seem to stop appearing in the world at some point. No references I am in LOTR. How old might one’s immortal parent be at the time of one’s birth?
Tellion, I am curios about the citation for this info? Silmarilion?
Tellion Thank you for your direction. It looks like the essay is by Christopher Tolkien, reflecting his reading of draft material by his father. Is that your understanding? A massive LOTR fan, having read the books again and again beginning in the fourth grade (in a previous Age, I assure you) I was unaware of these sources.
Shame this tale will not be told in the upcomming lotr series...
Is this in the Silmarilian?
Yes but it was very short, it was very heavily detailed in The Book of Lost Tales and in the book The Fall of Gondolin
upload more vids asap they the best
I just finished The Silmarillion and I like it more than The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings. My favorite character is Earendil the Mariner - father of Elrond & Elros, and son of Tuor and Idril Celebrindal.
So why the change of heart back to lotr lore and not the newer series you started or just mixing it up keeping it fresh? :)
Not a change of heart, I occasionally go back to older series from time to time.
TheExploringSeries so the later then ;)
i have a question why dindt morgoth yoused gondoling as a fortress [sorry fore my bad englis]
I know Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor/War are not original to Tolkiens work, but could you cover it and point out mistakes perhaps?
Coming out this year :D
Do a video about Celebrimbor
Congratulations to All Tolkien Fans... Book is finally going to published
Maulik Pankhaniya we only waited over 100 years Kappa.
Last year the book called The Fall of Gondolin was released. I've read it twice and it describes the battle in geat detail
wasnt this from children of hurin
Simarilion
More detailed account in "The Lost Tales" Book II. Well worth the read.
Is elder scrolls finished?
Nope, it'll be back next week, but sometimes I like to touch back on older series.
You should do one on Legolas.
But where is gondolin in middle earth?
I thought Glorfindel was alive during the third age. How could he have died fighting a Balrog? Is there something I am missing?
Well, yes, you are missing something in fact. Basically, Tolkien reused the same character name twice without really thinking about it. Later in life, he wrote a couple of essays explaining that they were in fact the same character in order to fix his mistake. Glorfindel was placed back in his body and sent back to Middle-Earth after his death.
Good move by the heavens in my opinion, Glorfindel was a beast.
Silmarillion movies.
read The Sorrow King
All these names!
it is now the Time of Peace amongst the Folk of the Sirion Plains and Estuaries; my Brother awaits Purpose out of the North. 💚 *flutter*
There are so many thing this guy get wrong for no reason. Like see my last comment, or Eol was named a dark elf because he dwelt in nan elmoth and he went never out in the sun light and because he was Avari...
What book is this in?
Saesee Tiin The Fall of Gondolin was explained and came from three books from the Legendarium The Sillmarillion, Unfinished Tales and The Book Of Lost Tales Part 2
Thank you!
Saesee Tiin Your welcome :) (ps sorry for late reply)
It also got its own solo book in 2018
you should do the warhammer 40k universe
pc master race yah and then the 4 people will watch it and be merry.
Zach Stevens 5*
Zach Stevens *6
so he was inspired by the war oh that makes alot of sense
Say her name: Idril! lol
You are gorgeous
Sry. Morgoth was unaware any escaped. That was key. The balrog was guarding the pass they took to flee, and glorfindel was already traveling with them. They all took the hidden tunnel idril constructed in secret.
Correct.Glorfindel Greenleaf. Perhaps a relative of Legolas?
PCL I know 😋. I know all about Tolkien world. Big nerd.
Explore fallout next.
Came here from Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror
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Your videos are good, but your continual mispronunciation of names is extremely distracting and makes it difficult to listen to. Nothing undermines your grasp of the lore more than mispronouncing the names. Tolkien gave ample tools to decipher this. Please redo your narration and put EVERY name to test before you use it. Then your videos will be top notch.
+aviatrix 17 Do you mind telling me which names I mispronounced?